ShwaNerd's Camping Trip Part 1

[Svenhartley]

The amount of money that these guys are fleecing hard working honest families for is utterly repugnant.

[CaitliNation]

i had to go to bible camp last summer for like the fifth time. this just brings back bad memories

[joshg123]

Oh God. I remember singing that song at my old United Pentecostal Church...Good Times... >.> good...er...times...

[SeekerKC]

"Vow of poverty," my arse!

[daphApple]

3:16

"Because he lives I can face tomorrow [...] And life is worth the living, just because he lives"

Wow, this is just sad. It's no wonder people hold onto their faith, for many of them it really is all that keeps them going.

[togood4798798]

really respect this vid and 4 u not believe this shit

[tony671]

great video,I knew that christian fundamentals were on the rise in the states but to send a child to these places is horrendous.There just doesn't seem to be the same sort of thing going on here at least with the christians, and faith schools eg catholic schools seem to be disappearing. This is just in Scotland which is going though a time of sectarian hate over of all things FOOTBALL with the manager of "the catholic club" getting parcel bombs through the post.Its madness

[iceblude]

Shwanerd, You my friend are a brave human. Im 50 and that film jesus camp scared the bajesus out of me. Its like watching the muslins kids with no weapons. I am so happy you are able to see through the bullshit. To me this is a form of child abuse. Those young children have no clue, they are praised for acting like adults. Kids should get to be kids and taught critical thinking first , then let them decide on their owe. You should make your own film on this when your 18. You are Awesome.

[WorkForYourMoney]

This is so George Orwell. From the totalitarian thought crime, and child indoctrination, even the leaders are more insane than the children.

Man! What you're doing/done is really important.

[ThePaganSamurai]

im from the Uk and ive heard of thesse camps but never seen them or anythin. after watching this i must say they're really quite sinnister. the lyrics to that song are well creepy!! and thoes money target figures made me feel abit sick. I'd have probs spent my money on a bus ticket home out of disgust regardless of my parents.

[sharkjack]

@Preator6 They might have higher death rates, but the anti abortion and anticonception beliefs more than make up for that in the denomenations that apply them.

[somethingdiffereable]

I wanna see the hot christian girls with the strap-ons right after the fire and brimstone speech!!!!!!!

[amadain17]

@Preator6 Actually I fund them fun. I never met a creationist in person in my life. They either don't exist in my country or are in the closet or are too ashamed to say that they are creationists to me. In fact I have found recently that people have volunteered the fact that they are atheist to me without any conversation on religion even on the horizon

[RoyalMessup]

they sure act like life is worth living lmao

[vermanshane]

You poor bastard. Guess i have to sub to you out of pity ;)

[mmmodafoca]

haha when he mentioned the trained i thought (just to seem legit and crazy to the rest of the people in the camp) he would have cured the train "damnn you science!!!" while shaking his fist in the air XD..

[JACEH123]

You almost sound scarred or atleast really nervous. But its like they hide evil behind a mask. All the nice white happy looking buildings, but what goes on inside is what you really have to take into account.

[kerrilea73]

I recently heard your interview on the Infidel Guy and was highly impressed. I was lucky enough to be raised a free thinker and can only hope I would have gained the skills of reason and rationality on my own.

[dirtyhyde8]

Where is the Dildo?

[BusinessIDBAI]

So, what's up with the song?

[Adventfred]

are you the one from the atheist experience

[rotcafarg]

I wanted to see the strap-on dildo.....

[Key2daUnderground]

This reminds me of when i was a child & was dragged to church. I am thankful for the annoyance, it was so much easier to see through the bullshit. Thank you hypocrite self righteous so-called family :)...

[O2BSoLucky]

Thanks for a peek into crazy fundie land!

[infector101]

2:10 ADD HAHAHA!!!

[saxmanchiro]

funny how the guy at 1:15 'locked' his car at a fundie camp. Oh wait, fundies break their own commandments? NO, SAY IT ISN'T SO!! My wife and I teach in public high schools that are packed with Southern USA fundies. Guess what? She was robbed two days ago by students in her classroom while she was just in the hall doing hall duty. Someone went into her purse and took the cash. Hypocrisy at it's finest. Thanks for sharing this and good luck with the in cognito thing.

[RiotRanger]

did the kids get punished/return the stolen stuff?

[saxmanchiro]

nope. Nobody came forward even after she asked the class to come clean with the perp.

[RaisedforM12]

Your all children of god why do you have these things called trailers where you are separate from your goly brethren. BTW definitly sounds like an adventure to be surrounded by "faith" (non-substanciated claims) for a whole 5 days, OH WAIT its called society I forgot I experiance every day *sigh.

[rocknrollgod16]

u DO know he's an atheist right?

[IdleGod]

Video stabilization man...

Heard you on TAE, subscribed for you having the balls to do this.

And your family, friends, and other camp mates will find out... I hope you can handle the pressure they will invoke. Good luck man.

[dattelpalme83]

Nice! Thank you for taking the risk of being discovered to let us share your experience!

[darwinsrighthandman]

does your mother know ur an athiest

[skitchdrews]

Reminds me of when I had to spend a 4 day weekend at Christian Single Parent Household Camp ish thing. It sucked. But breakfast was good.

[stjimmy933499399493]

ahh that takes me back to some not so pleasant memories

[hugopelland]

Thanks for sharing your story! I just watched that first video after listening to you on the Atheist Experience show. Can't wait to see the rest.

Good job!

[woodsofodin]

Hi. I'm going ot have another channel set up under a different ip that shows videos warning about fundamentalism. May I mirror this series under that channel?

Note: it may be a while before that channel is set up.

[ShwaNerd]

No problem, mirror them, edit them, criticize the videos, its all good. You could play clips, then go off on a rant, its fine with me.

[speccwolf]

Here in Australia we dont have many fanatics camps and religious brainwashers. Is America and Canada truly like this ?.

[RXdash78]

America yes. Canada less so. Our population is far more urban and thus has more people of diverse backgrounds.

[ThieleM]

Bull. I work with a couple that just got back from a fundamentalist christian program that is run just outside Perth. They are complete bat-shit crazy christians and they came back twice as bad as they were before they went out there.

[speccwolf]

Re-read the comment, it was a generalization, i didn't say there were not any in Australia.

[ThieleM]

From what I experienced while living in Oz I'd say Australia is well ahead of Canada in terms of zealotry....FAR behind the United States.

[dwoclan]

I dont know why but when you said "trains coming" i thought something was going to explode lol.

[PainfullyWitty]

Hi ShwaNerd. Thanks for the outstanding inside look. I was also raised in this environment, and over a long period of time, became a non-believer. Please continue the great work, and always realize that even though there may not be non-believers around you.. we are always closer than you think, when support is needed. Subscribed, rated, favorited.

[celestialsalamander]

you said most people couldn't get though ten minnuets. i'm guessing they didn't start with this video.

[zezimashelpr]

what the name of the song playing?

[alphalop]

It's the instrumental version of Cells by The Servant

[Kugruabay]

pretty funny the guy locking his car at 1:10, guess he doesn't trust god to keep him from getting his CD player ripped even at Jesus camp.

[monkeybudge]

Did you ever try to debate your friends or at least test there feelings on the camp or religion ? i bet some of them at least have doubts about this whole thing they are made partake in

[ShwaNerd]

You know, I really wish that I could have at least VENTURED some probing questions like that, but I was not able to. I could tell that even the kids at camp that I would consider close friends are far too religious to test. It would not have been "safe" for me to do so. I wish they had doubts, but they are as "hardcore" for jebus as they ever were.

[monkeybudge]

Thats sad . Maybe if you where to meet them in a different setting you could at least try to bridge the subject . but i imagine you would have to do it in the softest way witch sucks ,i have no problems talking to my friends about such things. Still, can't tell you how many times i have had to bite my tongue because my girlfriend wont let me rip into some ignorant fool who is asserting religous bull shit on everyone in the room

[CarpeOmne]

Did anybody there know that you weren't a Christian? or were you completely undercover for this? XD

[ShwaNerd]

Nobody suspected a THING.

:P

[CarpeOmne]

lol nice, a few months ago this one chick brought me to a concert, and once I got there I realized it was a Christian Concert similar to the ones you saw

She knew I was an Atheist at the time, and I think she expected me to have a spontaneous religious experience while being there. lol

[CostaRicaGirl17]

Oh ok. Well true. Who wants to watch videos where all the dude Is complaining about is religion and stressing over it. Like get a life "shwanerd".

[CostaRicaGirl17]

Very true man, very true.

[2rocker4life]

I'm a girl lol.

[sweetsweatyfeet]

Where do you get off claiming atheists are socialists? Atheism (skepticism of god claims) has NOTHING to do with socialism (a political system).

Your emotional need for a cosmic parent doesn't alter the fact there is no evidence for any of the gods (Yahweh included) claimed by mankind throughout history.

[Daniel0112358]

@sweetsweatyfeet

It's a square rectangle issue. Marx was opposed to religion as a tool of class warfare; Marxism is atheist. The Bolsheviks were militantly atheist and later communists copied them/agreed w/ Marx. Atheism is not necessarily socialist or Marxist. Simple DUH.

[Daniel0112358]

@sweetsweatyfeet

Also, ironically, i would argue that the gospels include a form of socialism: 1. go and sell all that you possess and give the money to the poor 2. It is as difficult for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of god as for a camel to pass thru the eye of a needle 3. one point says if you have two cloaks and another person has one, then you should give away one of yours

[NegativeNick]

So does Science!

[FreePrometheus]

All people are different and to make sweeping generalizations like that is the equivalent to saying all black people steal.

I've met Christians who are suicidal, I've met plenty of arrogant religious people, and I've met religious people who think the whole world is shit. Everyone is different...

[ValasMajere]

Seeing from your description on your channel that your a big metal, as am I, listening to that must have been torture... also where you forced to go to this camp by your parents or something or are you infiltrating for our amusement

[johnycannuk]

Iawah?

[Nimnoms]

You probably know better than I would, but I imagine it would be quite bad for you if anyone from your camp found out about this channel while you were in the lion's den.

[Echo30]

I think the guy on drums at 3:34 is the rat-tail kid from the Jesus Camp documentary.

[kingofthebronx93]

If u are an athiest stop being a fuckin pussy and tell your parents already. grow some fuckin pubic hair and come out already bcuz its dpressing hearing of your misery

[ShwaNerd]

If you don't want to hear about it, then don't watch the videos you fucktard. I've explained my situation already to people that give a damn, but you obviously don't, so you can go fuck yourself.

[SimpleCivil]

you tell him shwa. fuck that asshole. you do what you have to do when you feel the time is right

[CrosshairJack]

This ^^

[BornInAsphodelMeadow]

FUCK YEAH!! ATHEISTS DON'T HAVE FEELINGS OR LIVES OF THEIR OWN, THEY DON'T FEEL LOVE OR SADNESS OR ANY OF THAT OTHER SHIT, THAT'S FOR CHRISTIANS. FUCK YOU SHWA YOU FUCKING COCKSUCKER!!

But seriously, get a fucking life, kingofthebronx. Just because no one loves you doesn't mean the rest of us have to suffer your stupidity and lack of empathy.

[ricardas83]

I like background music of your reports :).

[ubergossen]

I was in Oshawa last week. Thought of you and your Jesus camp.

[ShwaNerd]

:0

I wish I was there. I could have taken you (by force) to the camp. I wonder how long you'd be able to sit there... as your brain melted.

[danischlos]

Ugh. A Bill Gaither song. Do they keep him in a cryogenic chamber with Pat Robertson or something? Why is this dude still alive?

[fiusux12]

ROTFLMAO @ 1:15, the guy sets his car alarm! Even HE doesn't feel safe at jeebus camp. (FACEPALM)

[dhcrazy333]

what is the song u always use, i love it

[dangerouslytalented]

ugh who goes to summer camp with their MOTHER???? I feel so sorry for you.

[DancingRabbit52]

I was expecting more wilderness, it is in Canada after all. I was also expecting more camp stuff, like cabins or tents or something. This looks like a trailer park stuck between a railroad track and a highway with some prefab buildings thrown in. Where is the lake? the awe inspiring view? the pool? the hiking trails? It's big and all that but camp? How is this place a camp?

[ShwaNerd]

There are cabins, which I didn't show. It's right beside Lake Ontario, so there is a beach. You can hike... especially if you want to get the hell away from there!

[DancingRabbit52]

Ok, so there is some camp to the camp. That's cool at least.

[snownet]

BUAHAHAH money grubbing PowerPoint. Pull out your bible and point them to some chapter where Jesus tells them to be paupers.

[anthonzi]

LOL at money grubbing

[anthonzi]

It'd be funny if you got b& from church because one of the church members found your channel.

Church is scary, esp. w/ spooky music.

[tehpageofcups]

I think it's hilarious that they sing about all the fear being gone when the religion itself is sold on the basis of fear. Very rarely do you find anyone that will try to talk you into christianity because of the love and goodness.

[wmd1]

Camp? Wheres the camp part? It looks more like a shitty resort.

Only hobos "camp" by train tracks, well, hobos and christians it would seem. ;-)

If true art can only be achieved through suffering, then you sir are a master artist. It was painful enough just to see those awful lyrics on the screen, I can only imagine what it was like to have to sing them with your mother standing next to you.

[SaintCog]

Thought you might come back as ShwaNerd777

[ShwaNerd]

Oh ye of little faith.....

[lessergnome]

we need to get you some kind of spycam for these things, just so you would not have to worry about parental figures.

[BornInAsphodelMeadow]

Life is worth living because he lives.

OH SHI-

[BassistLulz]

ADD is a good thing when your at a place like that

[Othelie]

Good Luck!

[1140Cecile]

Glad you made it back safe and sound, ShwaNerd. I was concerned about you getting found out but obviously you're alright.

[AbdultheImpailler]

FTW...let's brainwash all the little kids so we can make more mindless drones just like ourselves *pukes*

[Jimb0can]

I can't wait for moar!! I can' wait to see what kind of brainwashing and misinformation they will give the kids at the camp. Thanks Shwanerd for doing this!

[devtamagi]

I love that you took your camera there, its awesome.

[bamboo4tameshigiri]

What a colossal waste of money! They could do so much more with LESS and I love those cult brainwashing tactics: "Because he lives I can face tomorrow." Seriously, that's textbook psych101 brainwashing. They break your spirit then they try to build you up again.

[kevinanity]

Welcome back. Apparently you didn't get saved. Whew! It would ruin your videos if you started ending them all with selections of contemporary Christian music. Looking forward to the coming videos.

[StanMarsh1]

Man, the good that could be done with that money instead of giving it to these idiots.

[Auguston666]

Those numbers are ridiculous. :(

[The0d0r1c]

that train does explain how they managed to aqcuire such a big estate

[Vogter2100]

Smart with those songs.. self indcuced brainwashing.. way to go christianity.

[aaronk1994]

Yeah, teaching your child to love your neihbor, and to turn the other cheek is truley horible, isn't it?

[The0d0r1c]

O, do grow up

[amadain17]

Teaching your child that science is wrong when it disgrees with bronze age scribblings is horrible. Teaching you child that relying on prayer to get them out of a tight situation rather than acting for themselves to help in the situation is horrible. Teaching your child that they are born worthless and need to spend their life repenting for the imaginary sins of an imaginary ancestor is horrible. Teaching your child that they will be tortured if they disobey is horrible

[Vogter2100]

RIGHT ON!

[aaronk1994]

Yes, I will agree to that. The problem is, the Bible is compatible with science. What you said about prayer is not biblical, children are born worthless is NOT biblical, the Bible explicitly states that humans have a huge worth, much more than animals.

[scottydamion]

Oh yes, the bible is very compatible with science. A god outside of time and space, people getting raised from the dead by being talked at, water turning into wine, etc...

Yeah, REAL compatible with everything science has observed so far.

[slipcurve]

Man living in a fish, global flood, talking donkey, virgin birth, walking on water, water being turned to wine, ressurrection..

Which part of the bible is compatible with science? I must have missed that part.

[lessergnome]

You must be really into pain, because you keep coming back here saying stupider and stupider things.

[Vogter2100]

HUH? What about teaching your kid to hate homosexuals, or musims or theacing them atheists are worse then wthe worst satan worshippers and eat babies or what aabout teaching them that they wil go to HELL and burn for ever and ever if they done behave or what about taching them that all others than themselves are not really humans as they are evil sinners that will go to HELL??

HUH? HUH? HUH?

[FelleAndersson]

Turn the other cheek?

Oh so THAT's what you did after 9/11?

Wait a minute...

No, your CHRISTIAN president started fucking TWO wars in which ONE had nothing to do with it...

Turn the other cheek my ass.

[obsleet]

It would be nice if the majority of Christians abided by this credo.

Unfortunately most of them leave sarcastic, spiteful comments like this one.

[lionn420]

man.........you've got balls of steel to be doing this. but the intel on the inner workings of the christian brain washing mechanisim will make for great cannon fodder for all us rational video bloggers......keep up the good work

[legalizemarijuananos]

theres so much better use of good land then building a church on it... like building a brothel.

[WashyBanjo]

wow, im more excited to see the next video up than the debate between thunderfoot and ray comfort.

[JOKERSFREAK]

When that train went by you should have shouted, FUCK YEAH! Lol, I know you can't because Religious folks think the word fuck will bring the Apocalypse, but it would have been great. Looking forward to seeing the horrible deeds inside that Asylum they call "camp". Later, Shwa!

[horny4bears]

That verse they were singing, explains why the quick lapse into the "Whats the reason to live?!? with out jesus", when talking to them about life with out religon.

Also on those figures with the money raised, makes me wonder on what if's, about if atheist could attain tax exemption. Just to be a sanctuary from religious persecution, or to those needing assitance but not the dogma like missions impose....sigh

Look forward to the rest, agent SN

JC

[mathmexican4234]

wtf do ppl do with 85k...a hispanic family with 5 kids could live off that for 10 yrs...[the race joke is ok bc im hispanic :) lol ]

[AncientAtheist]

OK, let's get on with you pwning the fuck out of slightly psychotic people...

[TheReasonWhyGuy]

85,000$ BUDGET?

wow

[ShwaNerd]

That was only for sending the money to missionaries. That wasn't even the budget for the actual CAMP.

[Airportchris2]

Did you bring your oozy?

A joke, a joke.

[pinkishblueblack]

gotta love those gaily depressing verses in the hymns :)

[EMDW]

That place is pretty damn swanky. God gets all the good stuff.. :[

[RattleheadAnthony]

That is ALOT of money...

[draagon66]

Goldarned train!

I couldn't sleep through that when I was (secularly0 camping across North America. Damned pain.

[RattleheadAnthony]

Finally.

[MelodeathAddict]

MrJastin: You're a wanker.

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Nice, can't wait to see the vids up Shwa, welcome back :D