double stroke roll development exercise

[kdrayf01]

Are you French Canadian?

[Reaganisawesome1]

I need help. The faster I stroke, the more I tense up and when I try to relax I slow down. Does anyone have any tips? By the way, this happens to me on any roll.

[cheekydollar]

I can't find lesson 2 neither here or on vicfirth website. Anyone?

[TheCreativeCuriosity]

DUDE OMG THANKS SO MUCH!!!!!!!!! most helpful video ive seen :D

[exferd]

I've already known this technique, but my left hand sucks.

[cribs262]

THANK YOU SO MUCH <3

[Lehmann108]

Excellent video!

[calv0n]

my first drum lesson was today and this was extremely frustrating until i saw this video. thank you very very much!

[viciaoo]

wow bro....This is the only video that has reaaaaally showed me how to do the technique right.....Finally....Thankss a loooot bro...God Bless!!

[9812bmaua]

look at his left arm from 0:21 to 0:31

[JFDrummer22]

omg this made it so much easier to learn it. no one has said it better, thanks!

[nickkershner1]

regardless of all the arguments in the comments of this video, what this video showed me was after only druming for 2 weeks I REALLY favor my right hand. As a matter of fact I didnt even know my stroke with my left was completely different than my right. Thanks to this I can fix that and hopefull will make a huge difference in my drumming in the future!! My left wrist hurts now.... Thanks for the vid!!!

[webstercat]

Yes correct but there is another version of doubles where they are both bounces and the second note is not a snap. The full 12 oclock bounce is not possible at a faster tempo. There is more finger control and arm motion.

[breakingbloodvessels]

Wanna give information that isn't obvious to anyone..?

[bamfireastound]

could you please show us a double stroke roll using this technique,, thank you..

[damnnargles]

I just want to say thanks for putting such a wonderful lesson up. Many thanks from a drummer with a lazy left hand :)

[Stormsea1]

Your explanation is realy good, very nice breakdown of the mechanics. Would love to see you post a few exercises please.

[spamtree]

moeller bro.

[drumz4lifekse]

this essentially the moellar technique

[Vicfirth5bb]

Sergio, please make part 2 I'm very interested to see and hear how you apply this "open close" technique into musical contexts

[Betrion]

nicely explained

[Hallucin]

thanks man

[invert48]

pet the kitty

[Gnarm0]

video is really helful, i don't like the snar sound though :P

[rmail99]

I've watched so many videos on double-stroke rolls, this is the first one that has actually HELPED me. Thank you so much!!

[melthane]

Aw man! THERE'S my double stroke! I've been looking for that!

Nice one, thanks for posting this, super helpful!

[Vlada086]

yes this is true,full extend of the rebound is a very imprtant aspect of playing. However this method requires alot of concentration during the actual playing. I teach my students to develop their wrist muscles first,and i tell them to do double strokes on a pillow,using ONLY wrist...for all motions. When i put them on the actual drum i tell them to,again,use only wrists. After that fingers will "learn" how to back up the wrist and use that short rebound. Its much more easy than this. Good vid.

[BachaBachaNinja]

I also agree that rebound is good, but you need your fingers as well to help control the sticks. You need to learn how to combine the motions of the fingers and wrists and even your whole arms to play.

[MrRockman2112]

@Vlada086 

[BubbleWrapPerson]

are you Canadian? eh!

[awesomewelles90]

what are you talking aboot!

[kenwonghou]

Thanks!

[alloneword154]

i prefer the rebound  methond, But by dribbling it

[christheman97]

same

[TobiasRieper]

thnx a lot...

[AK47NYG]

Excellent video. You are a very good teacher. Thank you for this video it help me learn the double stroke in 5 mins no lie. Thanks!

[iDrumBum]

it helps but you will choke the sounding of your drums completely, but its great for practicing rebound and rudiments =)

[emerica4162]

its bass rutten

[scarletpimp5000]

can this technique be used to achieve faster consecutive hits on , lets say a hi-hat, than just using wrists but slower than just using flying fingers technique?

[iDrumBum]

you can use the double stroke roll on the hi-hat, especially when it comes to knocking out those short sharp 32nd note hat fills.

[9191476]

thanx that helped me quite a bit. I knew of using the fingers but now using the rebound of the stick helps immensely.

[Soga87]

excellent explanation

[Apersonnamedbob]

does this technique work for blast beats doing

L then L+R then L then L+R etc..? I mean if you practice it is it possible to do that?

[AwfulVision]

Sorta. Blast beats are usually one-handed rolls or "gravity rolls" or whatever you want to call it. Basically, you use the rim of the snare as a pivot point instead of doing throw + catch.

The technique is sorta similar, but a bit different in execution.

[Apersonnamedbob]

can you use this technique to do fast blast beats like L then L+R then L then L+R etc.. ?

[ecabrera1977]

excelente...no habia mirado nunca una explicacion como esta...si alguien por favor me pudiera traducir al español, seria mucho mejor...muchas gracias

[angrahell]

very good explanation  :)

[sickstix182]

helped alot should of showed u doin it faster though

[satanswordhavebecome]

awsome video, gooooood shit!

[benozw12]

What about when doubling on toms toms which have lesser bounce, compared to snare?

[Pudersepp]

It works still. Your fingers have to do a bit more work on lower toms.

[loothersfallen]

This video is pretty good. My question is: Does this method work also while playing at high speed ? t seems a little bit dificult to keep up with it after a certain speed is reached. Or is it just me that nneds to practice more ? : )

[Pudersepp]

I think J.Mayer called this the "Buddy Rich secret technique"? Short answer, yes, you can get very fast with it. You just move the head of the drumstick closer to the drumhead and make smaller finger motion. It is a powerful technique. If you want, I can post a vid of this being played fast.

Regards,

Puder

[JMBSM61]

I thought I would never get any speed but believe it or not one day I was doing ratamacues and it came to me like a bolt of lightning. I still work on it but speed comes much easier now.

[drumma2k2]

Good vid. I call this the drop grab for my young students to understand it.

[DrumShredder666]

thanks! you helped a lot!

[alloneword154]

grazie mille, mille grazie

[sommelierr]

Great video. Excellently explained. I will go practice now!

[aantonis]

Great video, thank you so much!

[ncurry09]

awesome!! I'm a beginner and this helping a lot with me conserving energy!!

[AirHendrix91]

Oh, loose in the beginning and then force it back down with your hands at the second stroke?

[AirHendrix91]

I thought I'm just supposed to let the stick bounce twice. I'm confused.

[southernrockdrummer]

"AirHendrix91 (1 week ago) I thought I'm just supposed to let the stick bounce twice. I'm confused."

The problem with doing it that way is the second stroke will be weaker than the first, which can result in a more accented stroke. The method described is the best way to do it. It takes more practice but it's technically better.

[MitsPSU]

Do you find that this technique leads to unnecessary rimshots?

[crissglitch666]

you*

[crissglitch666]

Very well put! Thank yo!

[symboitesRul3]

Awsome explination. The finger movenments are defintly the most important part of a DS.

[sahthebanana]

I'm just learning drums, I have been practicing a double stroke roll but was simply playing with my practice pad to try and discover various methods, however, while I will be practicing the method in this video, I found it is much easier for me to simply let the stick bounce, pretty much keeping my hand still upon impact, but loosening my fingers to such an extent that it bounces twice, and then i retract my hand, i can do fast and reliable double strokes this way, does it have a proper name?

[sahthebanana]

nevermind i just watched dave weckl say he used to do it the way i was but now he does it this way, so i spose theyre both ok really nice one!

[TCJacko]

Thanks a lot mate. I can finally develop speed on my d strokes! Cheers!

[cju182]

thanks a lot for the lesson!

[danilofunky]

Thanks a million.Very great video!

[kennex33]

Thanks a lot

[sarkmcbride]

Great, great, great DSR instruction. Exactly what I was looking for (total explanation of wrist/finger utilization).

[dwcalle]

This helped a lot!  Thanks

[DreamStuffed]

ur videos are much helpfull, it would be very nice if u extended your list of learning vids ;)

thanks!

[rdog52]

The best double stoke roll instruction video on You Tube! I'm 54 and learning the drums for the 1st time. Great JOB!

[wakawakawakaaa]

natururary

[mahoutsukaitai]

0_o ?

[zZer0o]

Tagalog I think I think... turu is teach =)

[eternal4ever]

thanks for your help.

[ambroulard]

Hey this is fine but why don't you play the roll at speed as well--?? -? huh-?

[sbellotti]

part 2 coming

i want my students to focus on the correct motion and sound and not the speed in the first place

[dylanconnors123]

thanks man thats helpful