@HavxHHH how does For Today "shove their beliefs down your throat?" Just because they're vocals talk about Jesus doesnt mean u even have to listen to them. ill never understand why people always say "they're shoving their beliefs down my throat" when really all they're doing is stating their opinion. if For Today is shoving their beliefs down your throat then Dimmu Borgir, Thy Art is Murder, Morbid Angel and even this band are shoving their beliefs down my throat.
@AcaRJacKeR Simple, every one of their songs is extremely preachy. Saying things such as "All hell will not stand against us, for only those who choose to die will claim the life I have for them." So if I don't believe in your religion im going to burn in hell? That's fucking stupid.Religion is a futile attempt to abstain from loosing your mind. I choose not to listen to them for that very reason.
@HavxHHH yes those who perish without beliveing in Jesus as Lord do go to hell, (as stated in the bible which i do believe to be correct) because they have sins that havent been forgiven. and God is holy and just so He sends those to hell who dont accept the forgivness of sins which is in Jesus. people try to say God is doing a terrible thing, when really He is just in sending us ALL to hell, because we all rightfully deserve it. God is holy and He will not tolerate sin.
@HavxHHH well im sorry you dont like what i posted. and im guessin that this ep was actually made because of christians who are hypocrites. and no i try my best NOT to be a hypocrite. and in my last post i wasnt damning you to hell,(sorry if it sounded like that) i was telling you what the Bible says. may the Lord forgive you. and i hope you understand that Jesus wants you to be His child, God doesnt want anyone to suffer in hell. as stated in 2 Peter. God bless you bro.
Why is everyone bitching about what The Crimson Armada was or why Saud decided to make this EP? It doesn't matter what religion they are. People are always going to have their beliefs, and people have proven it takes a shitload of effort to change those beliefs. Just enjoy the fucking music!
You know......if you really READ INTO THE LYRICS, you might actually understand whats going on. But on another note, this is fucking epic, and Saud I approve! :D This is exactly what the world needs to realize.
He said he does not believe in the Christain God. But, he believes in a higher being and higher power. Read your shit. The song isn't THAT bad to be making such a massive deal about it. It's your opinions. But, In all honesty, the lyrics are deep and if you were frustrated about being judged by a religion that doesn't judge I'd be pissed also. Jussayin'.
Saud isn't Christian. He strongly disagrees with Christianity (but does not mean to offend any Christians by saying this). Saud believes in God, however. He wrote this EP because he got sick of people shoving the Christian doctrine down his throat and many wouldn't even have conversations with him for risk their beliefs could be "wrong." Saud believes that in the end there is no way to prove any belief correct so instead of fighting about it we should all just be friends. He told me this himself
@EastHere if he didn't believe in god why would he say "All you've shown me is hate, when you say OUR god is love"? he said our god not your god. if anything this song is for people for that cram there beliefs on others this is for the hypocritical Christians that tell you to love and be of peace but yet will openly tell you to fuck yourself if you don't Believe in what be believe you are going to hell at least that's what i got
@peterpanforever666 I think you may have misread my other comment. Saud told me: "i do believe in God as the highest power and all powerful, omniscient higher being". Saud isn't Christian, so I don't know what you mean by this song being for Christians. If you mean DIRECTED at Christians, then yes, but it is only directed at those like the ones I explained in my last comment. Saud's message is complex and easy to misunderstand but he isn't blindly screaming at every believer in Christianity.
This is for anyone who thinks this is against Christianity, He is is a christian, read the lyrics "All youve shown me is hate, when you say OUR god is love", he is just sick of people thinking theyre better than everyone else, thats what he means when he says " Who died and made you god"
@sk8forlifeuntilidie1 This song is against Christians who condemn anyone who does not share their beliefs and Saud is not Christian. <Those are facts. However the second half of your post is somewhat accurate.
@sk8forlifeuntilidie1 im not saying saud isnt christian because he might be,. but everyone who truly knows the bible can tell u that it is a sin to curse, swear, and cuss. Ephesians 4:29 "No foul language is to come from your mouth..." so if he has faith in Christ then he should ask the Lord to forgive him of his sins that he has commited. then after that he should grow closer to the Lord. and do his best not to commit sin. God bless
@AcaRJacKeR When the bible was written the terminology we currently refer to as cuss words did not exist. When the bible speaks about foul language it is referring to that. Foul language. Not words that the archetypes of our society have decided are taboo. Even more so, it's referring specifically to cursing your fellow man. Which basically amounts to "Don't talk mean to people"
@SycAmour well the Holy Spirit's been making me feel that its a sin. and all the true christians i know dont cuss...so ya. if ur cussing in general ur usually insulting someone and if u just cuss for no reason that makes u look ignorant because u cant think of somthing better to say. btw i looked at saud's twitter and ya from what i can tell he seems not to be a christian. i wish he knew the power of Christ though. God bless
this is so confusing, im trying to read all the comments and understand whats going on but i cant lol, is saud christian or not and what is the message he is trying to get across??
So if I actually like hearing THG I'm;ignorant,intolerant,and a hater? That is bullshit. I'd rather hear their old style of Technical Deathcore/Death Metal than to hear songs that sounds exactly like Attack Attack.
THE HOLY GUILE is a studio project set to release the 4 song GUARDIANS 2.0 EP on OCTOBER 25th 2011. All music and vocals were written, recorded, engineered, mixed and mastered by THE HOLY GUILE. This EP was inspired by the ignorant, the intolerant, and the haters and is for the ignorant, the intolerant and the haters
THE HOLY GUILE and GUARDIANS 2.0 EP is unrelated to any other artist, musician, or act in anyway shape or form. Any likeness or similarities are purely coincidental
Saud, I feel as if you're angry at Christians, and you have every right to be. I can only imagine the things you've seen and heard on the road, online and in person from humans who claim the name of Christ.
I just want you to know that I see your pain underneath it all.
This - The Holy Guile - it's impressive, Saud. Its powerful. I mean wow man you got the message across!
But I want you to know that ultimately God loves you, man. All that matters is seeking God.
let me explain somthing to anyone who has a problem with this band. Saud is not a christian and he never said he or the crimson armada was christian. yes he beleives in god. no he doesnt beleive in jesus. he beleives that good people dont go to hell because god loves everyone so aslong as you live an ok life you go to heaven. I am a christian but i agree with saud that christians can be closed minded and judging. that is our problem not his and arguing about his beliefs isnt helping. TCA FTW
I'm sorry but I lost all respect for Suad, I'm not gonna go hate on him or the crimson armada or anything now but If you arent going to be a Christian band then DON'T SAY YOU ARE ONE. Idk just sayin.
@mrmametalhead Here we go again. The religion issue. Look, ALOT of christian music has profanity in it now. It honestly gives it a better way to put there point across. I would just like to add that I am christian too, but I absolutely LOVE The Holy Guile. Not to mention, wouldn't you get sick of writing christian overtones to all of your music.
@alexx4501 I can't say I approve the profanity, but the lyrics are about Christians who play "holier than thou" which I can agree is completely wrong. Profanity? No I don't approve. The message? Yes, I highly approve.
@iTerroizeBabies I can completely say that his message isnt about "christians that are holier than thou". because god wanted us to spread his word and save as many people as possible and the rest of the world takes it as a insult saying....whattt! stop forcing me blah blah..when really there just trying to help nobody's forcing anything, so really in this song there just being like the rest of the world and complaining, so stop crying.
@HorrorGames But honestly, if I wanted to be preached to, I would go to a church. Which I do. I don't like people that shove the bible down your throat. That's exactly why most people turn away from god.
@iTerroizeBabies Well thats not something you can blame god for, thats just some peoples fault, and I tell people about god, because thats what god would want from me, but I don't force people into my religion.
@mattishardxcore music is an expression of feelings and emotions you asshole…people have the right to express their love for god as much as they want...
@mrmametalhead hope you know TA isnt a christian band, neither is attack attack or we came as romans. bands are allowed to have positive messages and have one atheist member with christians
I like what the christains caused this shits brutal!
IDOVOCALS1985 1 week ago
those vocals are just way too good.
xGameGuideGuyx 1 week ago
Finally a song that explains how I feel about people who try to shove their beliefs down my throat.. *cough* For Today *cough*
HavxHHH 2 weeks ago
@HavxHHH how does For Today "shove their beliefs down your throat?" Just because they're vocals talk about Jesus doesnt mean u even have to listen to them. ill never understand why people always say "they're shoving their beliefs down my throat" when really all they're doing is stating their opinion. if For Today is shoving their beliefs down your throat then Dimmu Borgir, Thy Art is Murder, Morbid Angel and even this band are shoving their beliefs down my throat.
AcaRJacKeR 1 week ago
@AcaRJacKeR Simple, every one of their songs is extremely preachy. Saying things such as "All hell will not stand against us, for only those who choose to die will claim the life I have for them." So if I don't believe in your religion im going to burn in hell? That's fucking stupid.Religion is a futile attempt to abstain from loosing your mind. I choose not to listen to them for that very reason.
HavxHHH 1 week ago
@HavxHHH yes those who perish without beliveing in Jesus as Lord do go to hell, (as stated in the bible which i do believe to be correct) because they have sins that havent been forgiven. and God is holy and just so He sends those to hell who dont accept the forgivness of sins which is in Jesus. people try to say God is doing a terrible thing, when really He is just in sending us ALL to hell, because we all rightfully deserve it. God is holy and He will not tolerate sin.
AcaRJacKeR 1 week ago
@AcaRJacKeR Shut The Fuck Up. It's because of fucking people like you that this EP was written.
HavxHHH 1 week ago
@HavxHHH well im sorry you dont like what i posted. and im guessin that this ep was actually made because of christians who are hypocrites. and no i try my best NOT to be a hypocrite. and in my last post i wasnt damning you to hell,(sorry if it sounded like that) i was telling you what the Bible says. may the Lord forgive you. and i hope you understand that Jesus wants you to be His child, God doesnt want anyone to suffer in hell. as stated in 2 Peter. God bless you bro.
AcaRJacKeR 1 week ago
@HavxHHH for today doesnt shove anything down anyones throat, they tell a story, you dont have to listen you fuckin idiot.
fromhellirise 1 week ago
@fromhellirise Yeah, it tells a story that was created hundreds of years ago, it's called the fucking bible... maybe you've heard of it?
HavxHHH 6 days ago
@HavxHHH what the fuck are you talking about? that has nothing to do with what i said to you
fromhellirise 5 days ago
@fromhellirise It has everything to do with what you said to me.
HavxHHH 5 days ago
Why is everyone bitching about what The Crimson Armada was or why Saud decided to make this EP? It doesn't matter what religion they are. People are always going to have their beliefs, and people have proven it takes a shitload of effort to change those beliefs. Just enjoy the fucking music!
rise2genocide 2 weeks ago
Nobody does metal better than this man.
SycAmour 2 weeks ago
"This guile called 'The Bible' is a testament of its tampered title."
Why the fuck does everybody believe he's Christian? Ever since their Myspace days, they've always held the stance that they are not a Christian band.
xddrparadise 2 weeks ago
Perfect song to listen to while fapping
xjakeyx13 3 weeks ago
Saud just knows exactly what to say! @EastHere I pretty much got the same little speech from him at Screm The Prayer last year, he's a good man!
EverythingFades850 3 weeks ago
saud is a unitarian.
oxhpagor2 3 weeks ago
Guardians 2.0? hahahahaha fucking saud
tetrico22 1 month ago
Sauds not a Christian, but he does believe there is a God
He made this song because of all the christians calling him a hypocrite and such
TheGreatFear777 1 month ago
christianity is a shit,but this song is awesome
darkismypassion 1 month ago
dont remember when i listened even near this good band :p
ThePoli854 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
You know......if you really READ INTO THE LYRICS, you might actually understand whats going on. But on another note, this is fucking epic, and Saud I approve! :D This is exactly what the world needs to realize.
de4thbypr0xy 1 month ago
This is an amazing EP
PBALLERAZ 1 month ago
this is the shit that is all.
codemysterjuggalo 1 month ago
This so much better than new Crimson, that's for sure.
shinypkmnfan13 1 month ago
He said he does not believe in the Christain God. But, he believes in a higher being and higher power. Read your shit. The song isn't THAT bad to be making such a massive deal about it. It's your opinions. But, In all honesty, the lyrics are deep and if you were frustrated about being judged by a religion that doesn't judge I'd be pissed also. Jussayin'.
fuckyourforgiveness 1 month ago
@fuckyourforgiveness everyone is awakening to our true nature...go listen Born of osiris The discovery album...take a look at the lyrics
CaptainaVodka 1 month ago
People quit wasting your life talking about religon just live your life and in the end the great mystery "MIGHT" be resolved.
XanderPlague 1 month ago
Saud isn't Christian. He strongly disagrees with Christianity (but does not mean to offend any Christians by saying this). Saud believes in God, however. He wrote this EP because he got sick of people shoving the Christian doctrine down his throat and many wouldn't even have conversations with him for risk their beliefs could be "wrong." Saud believes that in the end there is no way to prove any belief correct so instead of fighting about it we should all just be friends. He told me this himself
EastHere 2 months ago 16
@EastHere if he didn't believe in god why would he say "All you've shown me is hate, when you say OUR god is love"? he said our god not your god. if anything this song is for people for that cram there beliefs on others this is for the hypocritical Christians that tell you to love and be of peace but yet will openly tell you to fuck yourself if you don't Believe in what be believe you are going to hell at least that's what i got
peterpanforever666 1 month ago
@peterpanforever666 I think you may have misread my other comment. Saud told me: "i do believe in God as the highest power and all powerful, omniscient higher being". Saud isn't Christian, so I don't know what you mean by this song being for Christians. If you mean DIRECTED at Christians, then yes, but it is only directed at those like the ones I explained in my last comment. Saud's message is complex and easy to misunderstand but he isn't blindly screaming at every believer in Christianity.
EastHere 1 month ago
@EastHere ppl assume hes christian cause he writes about his faith in god but there isnt one lyric in his writings that mention christ as his savior
SilenceSoSudden 4 days ago
STFU AND LISTEN TO THIS AMAZING SONG!!!
VexanProductions 2 months ago
This is for anyone who thinks this is against Christianity, He is is a christian, read the lyrics "All youve shown me is hate, when you say OUR god is love", he is just sick of people thinking theyre better than everyone else, thats what he means when he says " Who died and made you god"
sk8forlifeuntilidie1 2 months ago 3
@sk8forlifeuntilidie1 This song is against Christians who condemn anyone who does not share their beliefs and Saud is not Christian. <Those are facts. However the second half of your post is somewhat accurate.
EastHere 1 month ago
@sk8forlifeuntilidie1 im not saying saud isnt christian because he might be,. but everyone who truly knows the bible can tell u that it is a sin to curse, swear, and cuss. Ephesians 4:29 "No foul language is to come from your mouth..." so if he has faith in Christ then he should ask the Lord to forgive him of his sins that he has commited. then after that he should grow closer to the Lord. and do his best not to commit sin. God bless
AcaRJacKeR 4 weeks ago
@AcaRJacKeR When the bible was written the terminology we currently refer to as cuss words did not exist. When the bible speaks about foul language it is referring to that. Foul language. Not words that the archetypes of our society have decided are taboo. Even more so, it's referring specifically to cursing your fellow man. Which basically amounts to "Don't talk mean to people"
SycAmour 2 weeks ago
@SycAmour well the Holy Spirit's been making me feel that its a sin. and all the true christians i know dont cuss...so ya. if ur cussing in general ur usually insulting someone and if u just cuss for no reason that makes u look ignorant because u cant think of somthing better to say. btw i looked at saud's twitter and ya from what i can tell he seems not to be a christian. i wish he knew the power of Christ though. God bless
AcaRJacKeR 2 weeks ago
@AcaRJacKeR So many details about your comment make me think you're an ignorant person.
wlndsrequiem 1 week ago
@wlndsrequiem please point them out for me then. if there is none then stop accusing me.
AcaRJacKeR 1 week ago
this is so confusing, im trying to read all the comments and understand whats going on but i cant lol, is saud christian or not and what is the message he is trying to get across??
xxTheCrimsonArmada 2 months ago
@xxTheCrimsonArmada Read my comment. He isn't Christian but is not anti-Christian or anti-anything.
EastHere 2 months ago
So if I actually like hearing THG I'm;ignorant,intolerant,and a hater? That is bullshit. I'd rather hear their old style of Technical Deathcore/Death Metal than to hear songs that sounds exactly like Attack Attack.
TheCrimsonArmada1025 2 months ago
THE HOLY GUILE is a studio project set to release the 4 song GUARDIANS 2.0 EP on OCTOBER 25th 2011. All music and vocals were written, recorded, engineered, mixed and mastered by THE HOLY GUILE. This EP was inspired by the ignorant, the intolerant, and the haters and is for the ignorant, the intolerant and the haters
THE HOLY GUILE and GUARDIANS 2.0 EP is unrelated to any other artist, musician, or act in anyway shape or form. Any likeness or similarities are purely coincidental
xXSATCHM0Xx 2 months ago
everyone in the world needs to listen to this song
abc21035854christ 2 months ago
Dear replay button,
prepare for rape<3
bradenstrs 2 months ago 3
Saud, I feel as if you're angry at Christians, and you have every right to be. I can only imagine the things you've seen and heard on the road, online and in person from humans who claim the name of Christ.
I just want you to know that I see your pain underneath it all.
This - The Holy Guile - it's impressive, Saud. Its powerful. I mean wow man you got the message across!
But I want you to know that ultimately God loves you, man. All that matters is seeking God.
Anyway I would really enj
JonathanGuthridge 2 months ago
let me explain somthing to anyone who has a problem with this band. Saud is not a christian and he never said he or the crimson armada was christian. yes he beleives in god. no he doesnt beleive in jesus. he beleives that good people dont go to hell because god loves everyone so aslong as you live an ok life you go to heaven. I am a christian but i agree with saud that christians can be closed minded and judging. that is our problem not his and arguing about his beliefs isnt helping. TCA FTW
chikybick 2 months ago
I didn't know Donald Duck did lead vocals for a band!!!!! XD
xxxslash616xxx 2 months ago
He believes in God, but doesn't believe in the bible. Which I'm pretty sure means he doesn't believe in Jesus. I don't know he has complex views.
infamousforareason 2 months ago
Hes tired of assholes going and fucking judging him because hes christian. So this was a big fuck you to all of his haters.
XESCAPETHETATEX 2 months ago 5
@XESCAPETHETATEX Thank you. Not to mention, it's christians like the ones in comments below that caused this.
iTerroizeBabies 2 months ago
@XESCAPETHETATEX tell me how does the flesh of the serpent tatse!!!!! so sick
SilenceSoSudden 1 month ago
What a surprise, a closed minded christian doesn't understand the lyrical message ... oh the irony.
MarkusOfDoom 2 months ago
I'm sorry but I lost all respect for Suad, I'm not gonna go hate on him or the crimson armada or anything now but If you arent going to be a Christian band then DON'T SAY YOU ARE ONE. Idk just sayin.
Rupp101 2 months ago
saud you have deeply disappointed me. i'll be deleting both of your TCA albums and warning my friends away from you and your "message".
mrmametalhead 3 months ago
@mrmametalhead Here we go again. The religion issue. Look, ALOT of christian music has profanity in it now. It honestly gives it a better way to put there point across. I would just like to add that I am christian too, but I absolutely LOVE The Holy Guile. Not to mention, wouldn't you get sick of writing christian overtones to all of your music.
iTerroizeBabies 3 months ago 2
@iTerroizeBabies your a christian ...and you approve his message ?
alexx4501 3 months ago
@alexx4501 I can't say I approve the profanity, but the lyrics are about Christians who play "holier than thou" which I can agree is completely wrong. Profanity? No I don't approve. The message? Yes, I highly approve.
iTerroizeBabies 3 months ago
@iTerroizeBabies Finally someone who can actually tell the lyrics message
mattishardxcore 3 months ago
@iTerroizeBabies I can completely say that his message isnt about "christians that are holier than thou". because god wanted us to spread his word and save as many people as possible and the rest of the world takes it as a insult saying....whattt! stop forcing me blah blah..when really there just trying to help nobody's forcing anything, so really in this song there just being like the rest of the world and complaining, so stop crying.
HorrorGames 1 month ago
@HorrorGames But honestly, if I wanted to be preached to, I would go to a church. Which I do. I don't like people that shove the bible down your throat. That's exactly why most people turn away from god.
iTerroizeBabies 1 month ago
@iTerroizeBabies Well thats not something you can blame god for, thats just some peoples fault, and I tell people about god, because thats what god would want from me, but I don't force people into my religion.
HorrorGames 3 weeks ago
@mrmametalhead Who cares I don't believe in God and I liked TCA, God shouldn't be in music, period.
mattishardxcore 3 months ago
@mattishardxcore music is an expression of feelings and emotions you asshole…people have the right to express their love for god as much as they want...
XxBrok3nAngelxX 2 months ago
@mattishardxcore I didnt know the world revolves around you and your beliefs?? STFU kid!
eloyreno 2 months ago
@mrmametalhead He clearly says OUR Not your god. He still believes.
XESCAPETHETATEX 2 months ago
@mrmametalhead You would delete amazing music over religion? you're beyond stupid.
moondancer1122 2 months ago
@mrmametalhead hope you know TA isnt a christian band, neither is attack attack or we came as romans. bands are allowed to have positive messages and have one atheist member with christians
xXSATCHM0Xx 2 months ago
i have probably listened to this song over 100 times in the last week, most epic shit of my life.
9429565 3 months ago
suad killin it!! aha. this shit goes hard.
glassjoint999 3 months ago
fap fap? amazing!
ieathorses12 3 months ago
3:20 to 3:27 I LOVE the way he growls that part
MarkusOfDoom 4 months ago
Wow ... just amazing.
MarkusOfDoom 4 months ago
hella fresh
MiniBeatZ666 4 months ago
hhahahahahahah nice video ahhahahahahahah
MegaTimebomb098 4 months ago