ahmedi claim that only ahmedi people are true follower of islam and prophet muhammed peace be upon him. i just want to know that only 5% of the world population are muslims what about all other. only these people receive true message of the prophet.
ahmedi can fool only south asian people not rest of the world. mirza was reciving revelations from satan. these people are hypocrite and will be put in to the hellfire without question.
That's a tabla. A hand drum. Like a daff in fact. Therefore perfectly legitimate. It is not overlaid with the Qur'an (which I would never do), therefore legitimate. Perhaps you'd do well to actually ponder on some of Mirza's profoundly warped "revelations?"
Who died and told you that tubla, drum, daff, or anything else is legitimate when it comes to presenting the Holy Quran???? Show me in the Holy Prophet's life time if he EVER practiced this!!!! Don't make up your own rules as you wish!
FYI - I have deeply pondered over the holy revelations of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS). Let me know if you are having trouble with anyone of them. I'm sure you got confused again. I'll help explain.
As for the daff point, again, what was the specific sin that I committed? Are you so confused?
1) Daff/hand drum is permitted in *all* schools of Muslim thought.
2) The hand drum is being used to introduce a programme.
3) Hand drum is not overlaid over the recital.
4) There were no video programmes in the prophet's time.
Your point?
Holy revelations? Are you comparing Mirza's confused, plagiarised, nonsensical drivel with the mastery of Arabic displayed by Allah (SWT) in the Qur'an?
No one is saying musical instruments are evil, etc. As an Ahmadi Muslim I learn to respect the Holy Quran by the direct teachings and sunnah of our Master the Holy Prophet (SAW). The Quran was recited thousands of times during the Prophet (SAW)'s life time and NEVER has any form of music EVER been used at those venues. Is that not a lesson for the wise???. to use music or not to use it is between you and Allah...I've done my job to conveying this point.
Now that we've established the eligibility of the daff or the principle of the eligibility of daff under all schools of Islamic thought, the other points come into play, which allows their use in this case.
The daff is used here not to introduce any recital, the casual observer can see that at a glance, but to introduce a programme, of which Qur'an recital is just a part.
"It seems every time I go in any sort of depth it cause confusion in your head....I can't do much about that.... you just have to try and keep up... "
Is that it? Insults and cheap jibes? Is that all you can do? Is that Ahmadiyyat adab? I have calmly and patiently rebutted your allegations.
There are 124 comments on here at last count. How many of them are protesting like you? Only one Muslim and one Qadiani apart from yourself. I don't take votes on truth either. I use reason.
All revelations revealed to all prophet's are HOLY because it is the direct word of Allah. Just because you have extreme hatred due to your inner demons for the Promised MIssiah does not make these revelations unholy.
I'll ask you again, PLEASE BRING ANY revelation of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS) that you don't agree with and I'll help you to 'ponder' into it.
The only prerequisite is that you must have an open heart otherwise this conversation is nonsensical and a waste of my time.
You made two invalid and baseless accusations. You claimed that I have extreme hatred for Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and that is because of "inner demons". Just by making these claims, you invalidate every other point you raise.
I've made plenty of videos where I illustrate the nonsensical nature of Mirza Ghulam's revelations. It was precisely because I had an open heart that I left the cult of Ahmadiyya for Islam. I invite you to do the same.
Yeah, I think i saw one of your video's about some grammatical error in English language about one of the revelations of the Promised Missiah (AS)....
I can't remember what the revelation was but I remember thinking ... WOW... this guy is willing to completely over look the actual message if all the 'T's ' are not crossed and 'i's' not dotted...
This would be a good time to restate my point about your inner demons...
I asked you to support your baseless accusations. You reiterated them. This is not Muslim adab. It's obviously a Qadiani thing.
Muslims don't believe in a god called "Yalesh" that comes out with nonsensical revelations like "We can what we will do" and "Words of god cannot exchange"
I'd urge you to reconsider your belief in Mirza Ghulam. Leave Ahmadism. Islam is your birthright.
Why are you bent on taking Allah's powers away from Him????
After the death of the Holy Prophet (saw) you have excommunicated Allah from people's lives... Allah can't send any more messengers, he can't reveal anything to anyone and now he can't help His prophets... A prophet can try with all his might be no message of a prophet is spread without Allah melting the hearts of the non believers... Even Prophet Muhammad (saw) prayed for Allah's help in this matter and Allah answered him back.
You seem to be confused at a very simple point that I made .... that does not surprise me... I'll try to explain again...
You are implying that Allah is the one working for Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS) and not the other way around... correct... since Allah is saying that He will spread Promised Missiah's message. This analysis is so preposterous at so many levels that I am not sure where to start...Does Allah not spread every prophet's message??...cont'd...
Did that prophets not continuously pray to Allah to help spread their message???
Also, it's not like the Promised Messiah sat at a thrown and God forbid never lifted a finger after this revelation was revealed to him because he thought Allah will do all the work now and he has to do nothing... clearly even you would stand witness that the man named Mirza Ghulad Ahmad of Qadian never stopped spreading his message till his death...
So, in fact, I am the one who is utterly confused by YOUR statement about Allah being Promised Missiah's messenger instead of the other way around????
NEWS FLASH: Allah reveals His message to His prophets then the prophets go about their business to spread the message. This all happens because Allah causes the message to spread to where ever He pleases!!!! THAT DOES NOT MAKE ALLAH SUBSERVIENT TO THE PROPHET!!!! THE MESSAGE IS STILL ALLAH'S!
Masha'Allah, you are cooooool man! That's what I like about you. You end each clip with a note of thanks! wow! It is us the viewers; we are supposed to say thank you for your good deed! May Allah shower his choicest blessings upon you.
004.146 Except for those who repent, mend (their lives) hold fast to God, and purify their religion as in God's sight: if so they will be (numbered) with the believers. And soon will God grant to the believers a reward of immense value.
004.069 All who obey God and the Messenger are in the company of those on whom is the Grace of God,- of the prophets (who teach), the sincere (lovers of Truth), the witnesses (who testify), and the Righteous (who do good): Ah! what a beautiful fellowship!
Obey Allah ,obey His Messengers, Muhammad s.a.w.;) and you will be on the right side
other like one shoe in a pair resembles the other to the extent that if anyone among the Israelites has openly committed adultery to his mother there will be some who will do this in my Ummah as well, verily the Israelites were divided into 72 sections but my people will be divided into 73 sections, all of them will be in the fire except one." The companions asked, 'Who are they O Messenger of Allah,' Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) said, "They are those who will be like me and my companions."
Abdullah bin Amar (RA) relates that the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) said "Surely things will happen to my people as happened earlier to Israelites, they will resemble each
Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) among many of his prophecies has mentioned, in one hadith, a prophecy which many of us have seen fulfilled in our life time. More than 1400 years ago, our beloved master, Muhammad (peace be upon him) made a prophecy in the following words[1]:
What a spiritual discovery uncovered by this Super natural intellectual that MGA (as) revelation, 'I will cause the message to reach the corners of the world is an outrages blasphemy?
No Anti Ahmadiyya Scholar religious leader or Mullah was aware of this fact which is now brought out by this new scholar of Islam?.
Allah in Qur'an says that it is He who gives you rizq. It did not meant that Allah work for us & earn then gives it to man. But in practical man earn rizq by working day & night.
Salam.. 1st time heard u shahid brov.. u r perfectly ryt.. n once i ave bn to sum ahmadi's house.. by mistake r by blunder to b vry frank... bullshit... they r jus fukin waste of bloody time... dirty twats.. well done once again shahid brov...
Mirza's only mission in life was to serve the british government like his family did & to get reward from them. He was made a false prophet by them to stop muslims fighting jihad against them & so mirza tried his best to fool the simple minded muslims of that time. Mirza was proved a liar the minute he died, he scared alot of his enemies that Allah has revealed to him that they will die very soon in his life time but befr them all he himself died of cholera, the disease he promised them!
You can ve any belief/faith, we have a soft corner for every religion according to teachings of Islam And Muhammad (PBUH)..but we cant tolerate with traitors. who are enemies to our brotherhood. dont use our Identity (Muslim). We ll not have any problem with you. you are not using cover of Islam and also cheating common Muslims with you ambiguous arguments...
so this will happenwe had to do this for safety of our faith
This is still one the best vids i have ever seen about the lying and deceiving dajjal, Mirza Ghulam Ahmed. Iblis was a scholar too, but became a simple Kafir. Barakallah feek ya akhi shahidkamal. Please continue.
You shoud have born 100 years back in Mirza regime. Mirza was alcoholic (English WINE) and opium (Affeem) taker . But if Mirza would have consulted you, he would have adjusted your FEE in CHANDA payable by you.
I agree. But I spell the name of Allah (SWT) with a capital 'A', whereas your god is YALASH. And you are the traitor who calls Muslims terrorists, which makes you an enemy of Islam, which turns your prayer onto yourself, doesn't it?
Are you insane? Allah says that there will be NOMORE prophet after Muhammad and now Mirza comes? Evidance: "O people! Muhammad has no sons among ye men, but verily, he is the Messenger of Allah and the last in the line of Prophets. And Allah is aware of everything." (33:40)
Allah dose say that Prophet[peace be upon him] is the last prophet and these monkeys say that ghulam ahmed[may the curse of Allah be upn him ameen] is a prophet.
But kuffar are blind, deaf. evidance: Allâh has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearings, (i.e. they are closed from accepting Allâh's Guidance), and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be a great torment. (Al-Baqarah 2:7)
"Last in the line of Prophets" SPINNER U concoct "line of prophet" to open the gate for Jesus's trespass into Islam when "Wa Rasoolun ala Bani Israel". Last is last. Your spin that old can come new cannot, holds no water. Wama Mohammadin Illa Rasool qad khalat min qablahir rasool" Quran certifies Jesus as dead. Then what is the Jesus that Holy Prophet PBUH has prophecised to Nazool in Islam? Note Quran uses NAZOOL for Holy Prophet PBUH. Sport libas taqwa to obey Holy Prophet PBUH & become Ahmadi
Allah (SWT) said, Lanatullahe alal Kazebeen..... Lanat of Allah upon the Liars... Inshallah... If Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) lied... His Jamat wouldn't stand in this position as it is now... Allah would have caught Him and His jamat...But Allah (swt) is always with ahmadies... This is a sign of His truth... You should ask yourself... Thus u should ask urself.... who is lying... and who should wait for Allah's lanat.
Mirza's name is only known amongst Muslims as the liar who died of cholera on the toilet. (The fact is that he made his bed the toilet and the toilet was brought to him, but hey, that's how he is known). And Mirzais are known as being the ones who were unanimously kicked out of Islam by ALL the top ulama of the whole world. Not exactly lording it, are you?
Many people or group of peple from evry community in the world are cummiting sins by disobeying Allah's orders. At times they are caught and in many cases Allah(ST) has neglected them for some reasons (better known to him)
Every disobeyers would be caught and questioned by Allah (ST), either here or after the death, dont worry for that.
Thanks for the certification. We have obeyed Holy Prophet PBUH to believe in the Promised Messiah, we all the time pray & cry that God certifies us as Muslim. U disobedient to Holy Prophet PBUH, caling us Kafir is a feather in our cap.
The message of love for all hatered for none, is something that rest of the muslims should learn. If there is one group of muslim worth promoting it's the Ahmadi muslims. Everywhere I go, I hear that Islam need reform. Well Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is the reformer and I think he done a good job reforming it. We in the west don't have to worry about these Ahmadi blowing up stuff or acting like violent lunatics
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was an opportunist, a charlatan, a lickspittle of the murderous British empire, a consumer of opium, a drinker of tonic wine, a married-woman-chaser, a kaafir, a zindiq, a melancholic/manic-depressive, a self-aggrandiser, a potty-mouth and a money-chaser. Hardly reformer material...
Nice said...But do u know hoe many people out their saying the same thing abt Muhammad(PBUH). So fight with them...why fighing with the founder of Ahmadiyya? how many of them out their. and how many out against muslims/Islam/Muhammad(pbuh)? So point ur sowrd agaist them not ahmadis...As far as I know they r Good Muslims and Maybe from Allah.
U will surely break our teeth on a false allegation and put us to a tarnished justice of death. Thats your Islam. Holy Prophet PBUH endured blasphemy all his life he never gave punishement. Your Islam does not tie up with Holy Prophet PBUH. U have made TAQWA disposable.
I feel so bad for you and your thinking May Allah Guide you and if it is not in your qismat may Allah destroy you and make you a lesson for other qadianis and other disbelivers
It's not Mirza's message. He is spreading the message of God. Because Islam has been perverted by muslims. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is delivering the true reformed message back to it's orginal state, the message of peace brought to the world by Muhammad (pbuh). Different muslim groups have distorted the message over the years. Distorting the interpretation of the Quran. Get a clue man, we got people strapping bombs to themselves and blowing shit up. Get a clue.
fazman, do you mean the message of calling people "haramzada", of invoking death threats to his opponents, of chasing married women publicly, of calling his opponents the progeny of whores? It is you who needs to get Mirza's message and it is you who needs to stop painting a distorted picture of Islam the way other enemies of Islam do.
All I know is they ain't blowing shit up. There's a message of peace. The rest of you muslims are the "yes but muslim". Yes we blew that shit up but we had this reason or that reason. At least the Ahmadi muslims come out in full force against Jihad by the sword. That sir is a respectable position.
Shahid kamal saaheb! May Allah's Blessings be onto you! And may Allah Give guidance to the "misguided Qadianis" thru your worthy discussions(Aameen)! JazakAllah Sir!
"Ana Khaatimu Nabeeyeen, Laa Nabee baadee!" Prophet Mohammad(SAW) said! And how can a person be a prophet who died in the Latrine! May Allah Give His guidance to the Qaadianis to become Muslims! Aameen!
A prophet's message is not confined to the prophet alone...if what ur saying is true then how would have islam spread after the prophet muhammad (saw) died??? what about preachers?? How would you have become a muslim?? when the word 'cause' is used in this revelation...God can 'cause' the hearts and minds of people to open to the message of the promised messiah all around the globe...your argument is really weak
Mirza Gulam Ahmeds message is clear for all muslim umma,he was messenger of God, before giving any comments you should be has enough knowledge of quraan,not for TABLA which u r playing.
I advise any qadiani who has any fear of God to look at this kafir's disrespectful nickname. Just like his charlatan "prophet", he is insulting a revered Muslim prophet.
lol qadyanis giv me jokes.."i wil cause thy message to reach the corners of the earth" do they really use this to claim they are right...trust me if u beleive in that then you might aswell beleive ronald mcdonald is a messenger (astakfirulah) cos they have approx 30 000 outlets in more than 120 countries! bro shahid keep up the good work, may allah shower you with blessings and give you the strength to carry on!
salam! 1) The Holly Prophet Muhammad(SAW)did receive revelations which are not part of Qran and that part is called Hadith-e-Qudsi!
2) yes the religion is complete! yet you also believe in coming of Isa and AlMahdi! Would Allah send revelations to them or not? And where it is written that Allah has now ceased to reveal!
3)A Prophet's message is Allah's message! and Allah's Message is the Prophet's Message! And they both work together! I wonder why you are angry about this simple fact!
I am done with my clerifications! Its upto you now, you keep it or leave it! And if you like to come back, make sure you come up with something substancial and new, something which could make some difference! A good difference, full of rightiousness!!! Wassalam!
When you say that Allah has nothing to do with his religion after he delivers it to his messengers and then its only Messengers' duty to spread it and to gaurd it.
Then you are stating that The Holly Prophet Muhammad (SAW), nauzubillah failed in his mission (because in that case, he could not convey his message to the majority of the people of the world within his life time!!!)
Its pathetic and jobless creature like you who are too lazy to get your bums off the chair and make stupid and ugly videos criticizing other people, and have information (which is false- every word of it) and goo off thinking their right
news flash.
get a life. get your infromation straight. and to save islam of disgrace go beocme a christian or something.
prove me everything you said in the video and i will beleive you....meh you know what i dont WANNA believe you.
@PHIPPI46, I guess the previous Revelations were different, in the previous cases the Prophet of Allah tried to Spread the message of Allah by revelation, But in this case Allah is spreading the message of Mirza, So nauzubillah mirza is claiming himself to God too, like bahaullah did, becuase the plain english of mirza lol tells us.
2nd: Mirza is/was/will be a lier. like in quran it is said that, People promoto False messages of Allah by announcing them as WAHI/REVELATION like mirza did.
@br invoiceless. You are right to raise this point. I do not believe in sectarianism. I believe in what unites us - and all Muslims believe that no new prophet after Rasulullah (saw) will be appointed.
@br shahidkamal: Allah has sent his final revelation (Qur'an) upon Syedena Mohammad, which is guidance to all humanity; Qur'anic law is the chosen Imam e Mehdi for humans. And that's what we Muslims follow.
Sects within Islam is because lack of understanding, so inshaAllah it's fading away as we speak, Cultic minds i.e., "Irshad Khilafa, Baha ullah, Mr Mirza die their own death, and face humiliation on this earth and hereafter, inshaAllah, we have seen the history repeat itself.
And by the way Shahid Kamal sahab .. the revelations are also from Allah.. so it is Allah's Message.. and not Mirza Sahab's own message as you misleading people with your videos..its lie think about it before you post such things.
"I will spread THY message". Whose message? Who is the rasul? Never in the history of the universe has this role reversal happened. You are the one who cannot think straight! Please do. Your soul is at stake.
The "revelation" clearly says "I will spread thy message to the corners of the earth". "Thy message" means "your message" (respectfully). Is it really so hard to understand this simple English?
@shahid Kamal.. pls tell us that did Mirza Sahab mentioned in His Books about these revelations. Are these revelations are from Allah or He made them Himself ? you will see many time that these revelations are from Allah.. not from Him. You are lying again.
@shahid kamal I wonder why u dont to understand simple things,any way for us the mater is simple,He received revelations from Allah and wrote exactly in His Books, without any changes,'I'll Spread Thy Message." was revelation from Allah and He wrote as it is. Allah Promised Him that He'll Help spreading the Message and that we see 2day. Messengers in past spread the Message of Allah with the Help of Allah!without the Help Of Allah they were not able to do that,so whats the Problem.
Aoa shahid bhai. First tell this Phippi the meaning of Revelations, then it ll be easy for him to understand, Revelation is the thing of the message FROM Allah Almighty, Now Mirza got the Revelation Like "I ll Spread Thy Message.." So Allah is telling to mirza By revelation/message/Wahi that ME(Allah) Nazu will spread Your(Mirza's) message right, So whats the message of Mirza, "GOD IS COMMING BY HIS ARMY" lol.
He didnt have any revelations. its people like you who lead other innocent people to beleive the wrong things. I know a loser like you has no idea in hell of what he is thinking about.
if he hasnt any revelations then, what abt his claims? and 2nd try to open ur eyes, its written and found in the books of mirza, everything has been quoted cent percent from the mirza's book, and by the way are u GLOB100/TITAN3k are same i mean one man 3 ids.
Salam! Awais, (1) (if you pointed towards me to have 3 IDs) let me say, though I dont care who has how many ids, but i only have this one id at youtube.
(2) When a claim becomes truth, and Allah's help and decree is evident in its fulfilment, it becomes a sign of the truth of the revelation. If you dont accept this rule, then every revelation can easily be be rejected or doubted about? And if you still disagree, please bring forth your 'own' criterian for true revelation!
@pleaselwelcome: You are still blaspheming against your soul. The revelation CANNOT come true because it was IMPOSSIBLE. The MEssage belongs to God. It is not Mirza's message. Never was, never could have been. Do you not grasp the simple fact? Why would GOD spread MIRZA'S message? NEVER has this happened before!!!! EVER!!!!
@pleasewelcome: i didnt point it 2 u but for this IRONICPIMPIN
2: if still the DOOR OF REVELATION IS OPEN THEN, i guess there is no need to say that Quran is the final book and the final revelation of Allah, And why Mirza hadnt compiled his revelation to form a new book against or after Quran? in Quran it is written that NOW THE RELIGON HAS BEEN FULLFILED, Where is the Revelations of mirza? all he got the Joking/evil revelations by IBLEES having NO SENSE. STILL UR MIND ACCEPT THAT GARBAGE?
2nd: why dont you accept the new prophet like Gohar shahi and yusuf Kizab? Still they declare that they got revelations from above? you ppl are still sticking with Mirza, there are nemourous ppl Who claim to be the prophet of God's please accept them as well. "...and they make lie againt Allah that we recived Revelation from Allah". please justify urslef in truith not in lies,
3rd: The door of revelations/wahi has been closed after Muhammad(s.a.w), if any body accept it he is a lier.
@awais123 if door of revelations/wahi has been closed then How Allah will communicate with Imam Mahdi or Isa which u belief that will come later some time.. ?? will u say to Isa that Quran is complete and in Quran u r Prophet to Bani Israel, so go there in Preach them ?? think before u open ur Jahil mouth
..It is clear for us to see that Allah helped his Messenger Mirza Sahab and we see today His Message spread across the Glob. As He said over 100 years ago !
@shahidkamal you know what is the meaning of this revelation ! I dont have to say that you are either lying or misleading people..Allah always help His Messengers to do their work spreading the Message of Allah, without Allah's Help it is not possible. Hazrat Mirza Sahab said exactly the same thing and I dont know why it is so difficult for you to understand..I think you know that with this revelation you failed again to mislead people to see the truth
shahid...mirza ghulam ahmed qadiani sahib just sent the same message that prophet Muhammad(PBUH) sent and that was the second advent of the messiah or mehdi..he didnt sent any new mesaage wat so ever..i dont no how in the word u cud call that blasphemous...reply to me as i would surely want to discuss with u.
awwab - please respond to the premise of the video. At no point in history was ANY messenger of God trying to turn God into his own messenger. Only Mirza did this because Mirza was not a messenger of God. He was an egomaniac with delusions of grandeur.
Once again a good, succint video. Your style is very informative as well as easy to understand. Look forward to your next video.May Allah keep his guidance upon us all.
Shahid YOU ARE THE MESSENGER! ur efforts will cause the message to reach the message even further heights.. every muslims responsibility is to forward the message of Islam! if there r ppl out there who have no conviction and have the willingness and intellect to openly debate and truly understand what Ahmadiyyat really stands for, without ppl like you feeding them hatred and garbage, they come in flocks! thankyou for the vid even tho it was pointless and lame,plz don't delete this post again!
well, I just said it: it is mirza ghulams task. and he did it. but with this revelation it is said that God will help him to bring his and the holy prophets message (saw) to every corner of the earth.
I don't think *you* get the point. Whose is the message? Of course we need God's help, without His Decree, nothing is possible. However, whose message is it? And if God is doing the spreading, what use is Mr. Mirza?
I think you didn't get the point: of course it is the prophets job to spreasd the message. but without Gods help it is not possible. and that's the point here. God will help mirza sahib to spread the message and this revelation has become true through MTA or in the earlier days through review of religion.
If you think Mirza Qadiani's message is being spread by MTA, then you're surely wrong because most of your viewers are cursing your programs and have actually learnt a lot about the true of Islam - which is of course not 'Ghulam-Ahamdiyyat'. I know several Qadiani families; they actually watch 'Islam Channel' not MTA cuz they say it's boring! Now, how can ur message be spreading through MTA when ur own creed is tuning out?
As for 'Review of Religion'; I always see the copies of it in Qadianis homes laying in the corner of their shelves or in the bulk of junk posts! And when we find errors and blasphemy in Qadiani publications; you guys hide it and try to argue that our criticisms are unfounded. By the way, how come Mirza is lacking in his capacity to travel a lot? Surely he wants to compete with Hazrat Isa (AS) in everything, why not in this matter?
Oooops!! Mirz's God Yalesh, the part-time postman of Queen Victoria, was also busy in spreading the message of his messenger!!! How could Ahmadis accept this comedian as a God!
Expose that liar Mirza Ghulam, good job
TheMrpalid 5 months ago
Excellent video, exposing the Dajjal,
Subhanallah! your efforts are great.
adeelkunwar 1 year ago 4
how does revelation occurs? how do God speak to people? in their language or in the language of other???
mdele2k3 2 years ago
ahmedi claim that only ahmedi people are true follower of islam and prophet muhammed peace be upon him. i just want to know that only 5% of the world population are muslims what about all other. only these people receive true message of the prophet.
mikaeel01 2 years ago
ahmedi can fool only south asian people not rest of the world. mirza was reciving revelations from satan. these people are hypocrite and will be put in to the hellfire without question.
mikaeel01 2 years ago
Thanks bro, another thoughtful and insightful video. may Allah increase you and raise you
sophist696 2 years ago
and all else aside... either take the recitation of the Holy Quran out of your video or take the music out....
since you like to do 'deep pondering' ... ponder on this!!!
shahkar 2 years ago
That's a tabla. A hand drum. Like a daff in fact. Therefore perfectly legitimate. It is not overlaid with the Qur'an (which I would never do), therefore legitimate. Perhaps you'd do well to actually ponder on some of Mirza's profoundly warped "revelations?"
shahidkamal 2 years ago
Who died and told you that tubla, drum, daff, or anything else is legitimate when it comes to presenting the Holy Quran???? Show me in the Holy Prophet's life time if he EVER practiced this!!!! Don't make up your own rules as you wish!
FYI - I have deeply pondered over the holy revelations of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS). Let me know if you are having trouble with anyone of them. I'm sure you got confused again. I'll help explain.
shahkar 2 years ago
As for the daff point, again, what was the specific sin that I committed? Are you so confused?
1) Daff/hand drum is permitted in *all* schools of Muslim thought.
2) The hand drum is being used to introduce a programme.
3) Hand drum is not overlaid over the recital.
4) There were no video programmes in the prophet's time.
Your point?
Holy revelations? Are you comparing Mirza's confused, plagiarised, nonsensical drivel with the mastery of Arabic displayed by Allah (SWT) in the Qur'an?
shahidkamal 2 years ago
No one is saying musical instruments are evil, etc. As an Ahmadi Muslim I learn to respect the Holy Quran by the direct teachings and sunnah of our Master the Holy Prophet (SAW). The Quran was recited thousands of times during the Prophet (SAW)'s life time and NEVER has any form of music EVER been used at those venues. Is that not a lesson for the wise???. to use music or not to use it is between you and Allah...I've done my job to conveying this point.
shahkar 2 years ago
You have not conveyed anything but confusion.
Now that we've established the eligibility of the daff or the principle of the eligibility of daff under all schools of Islamic thought, the other points come into play, which allows their use in this case.
The daff is used here not to introduce any recital, the casual observer can see that at a glance, but to introduce a programme, of which Qur'an recital is just a part.
Your point is not valid.
shahidkamal 2 years ago 2
funny...the ' casual observers ' on this post (non Ahmadis) seems to agree with me by asking you to do the same.
It seems every time I go in any sort of depth it cause confusion in your head....I can't do much about that.... you just have to try and keep up...
shahkar 2 years ago
"It seems every time I go in any sort of depth it cause confusion in your head....I can't do much about that.... you just have to try and keep up... "
Is that it? Insults and cheap jibes? Is that all you can do? Is that Ahmadiyyat adab? I have calmly and patiently rebutted your allegations.
There are 124 comments on here at last count. How many of them are protesting like you? Only one Muslim and one Qadiani apart from yourself. I don't take votes on truth either. I use reason.
shahidkamal 2 years ago
All revelations revealed to all prophet's are HOLY because it is the direct word of Allah. Just because you have extreme hatred due to your inner demons for the Promised MIssiah does not make these revelations unholy.
I'll ask you again, PLEASE BRING ANY revelation of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS) that you don't agree with and I'll help you to 'ponder' into it.
The only prerequisite is that you must have an open heart otherwise this conversation is nonsensical and a waste of my time.
shahkar 2 years ago
You made two invalid and baseless accusations. You claimed that I have extreme hatred for Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and that is because of "inner demons". Just by making these claims, you invalidate every other point you raise.
I've made plenty of videos where I illustrate the nonsensical nature of Mirza Ghulam's revelations. It was precisely because I had an open heart that I left the cult of Ahmadiyya for Islam. I invite you to do the same.
shahidkamal 2 years ago 2
Yeah, I think i saw one of your video's about some grammatical error in English language about one of the revelations of the Promised Missiah (AS)....
I can't remember what the revelation was but I remember thinking ... WOW... this guy is willing to completely over look the actual message if all the 'T's ' are not crossed and 'i's' not dotted...
This would be a good time to restate my point about your inner demons...
shahkar 2 years ago
I asked you to support your baseless accusations. You reiterated them. This is not Muslim adab. It's obviously a Qadiani thing.
Muslims don't believe in a god called "Yalesh" that comes out with nonsensical revelations like "We can what we will do" and "Words of god cannot exchange"
I'd urge you to reconsider your belief in Mirza Ghulam. Leave Ahmadism. Islam is your birthright.
shahidkamal 2 years ago
Why are you bent on taking Allah's powers away from Him????
After the death of the Holy Prophet (saw) you have excommunicated Allah from people's lives... Allah can't send any more messengers, he can't reveal anything to anyone and now he can't help His prophets... A prophet can try with all his might be no message of a prophet is spread without Allah melting the hearts of the non believers... Even Prophet Muhammad (saw) prayed for Allah's help in this matter and Allah answered him back.
shahkar 2 years ago
I'm not sure that you understand what you're saying. What is the point you're trying to make and how does it relate to this video?
shahidkamal 2 years ago
You seem to be confused at a very simple point that I made .... that does not surprise me... I'll try to explain again...
You are implying that Allah is the one working for Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS) and not the other way around... correct... since Allah is saying that He will spread Promised Missiah's message. This analysis is so preposterous at so many levels that I am not sure where to start...Does Allah not spread every prophet's message??...cont'd...
shahkar 2 years ago
Did that prophets not continuously pray to Allah to help spread their message???
Also, it's not like the Promised Messiah sat at a thrown and God forbid never lifted a finger after this revelation was revealed to him because he thought Allah will do all the work now and he has to do nothing... clearly even you would stand witness that the man named Mirza Ghulad Ahmad of Qadian never stopped spreading his message till his death...
shahkar 2 years ago
So, in fact, I am the one who is utterly confused by YOUR statement about Allah being Promised Missiah's messenger instead of the other way around????
NEWS FLASH: Allah reveals His message to His prophets then the prophets go about their business to spread the message. This all happens because Allah causes the message to spread to where ever He pleases!!!! THAT DOES NOT MAKE ALLAH SUBSERVIENT TO THE PROPHET!!!! THE MESSAGE IS STILL ALLAH'S!
You guys are really getting desperate now!!!
shahkar 2 years ago
Thanks for the lesson in sarcasm, desperation, repeated punctuation and screaming capital letters, but whose message is it precisely?
You're the one getting desperate and screaming and shouting. Obviously, your God is not spreading your message very well for you, is he?
shahidkamal 2 years ago
"I SHALL CAUSE THY MESSAGE TO REACH THE CORNERS OF THE EARTH"... Just a simple Sentence n u cant understand...wat a fool
Musarathasan 2 years ago
Masha'Allah, you are cooooool man! That's what I like about you. You end each clip with a note of thanks! wow! It is us the viewers; we are supposed to say thank you for your good deed! May Allah shower his choicest blessings upon you.
fawzbani 2 years ago 3
r u a muslim ? i dont think so tumhara dimagh kaam nahin karta quran sey pehlay dhol ka music chalatay ho which shows u need a doctor.
khrota 2 years ago
Shahid,
please explain to me ALQuran 4:69, 4:146 and 7:35. Please it is important for me to understand these verses. thank you for your attention
bashiramaan 2 years ago
004.146 Except for those who repent, mend (their lives) hold fast to God, and purify their religion as in God's sight: if so they will be (numbered) with the believers. And soon will God grant to the believers a reward of immense value.
Pray,be a good person and Allah will reward you
Pua8 2 years ago
Shahid,
please explain to me ALQuran 4:69?
bashiramaan 2 years ago
004.069 All who obey God and the Messenger are in the company of those on whom is the Grace of God,- of the prophets (who teach), the sincere (lovers of Truth), the witnesses (who testify), and the Righteous (who do good): Ah! what a beautiful fellowship!
Obey Allah ,obey His Messengers, Muhammad s.a.w.;) and you will be on the right side
Pua8 2 years ago
excellent, but take out that music from you clip please
afrimast 2 years ago
other like one shoe in a pair resembles the other to the extent that if anyone among the Israelites has openly committed adultery to his mother there will be some who will do this in my Ummah as well, verily the Israelites were divided into 72 sections but my people will be divided into 73 sections, all of them will be in the fire except one." The companions asked, 'Who are they O Messenger of Allah,' Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) said, "They are those who will be like me and my companions."
pakistanigurl12 3 years ago
Abdullah bin Amar (RA) relates that the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) said "Surely things will happen to my people as happened earlier to Israelites, they will resemble each
pakistanigurl12 3 years ago
Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) among many of his prophecies has mentioned, in one hadith, a prophecy which many of us have seen fulfilled in our life time. More than 1400 years ago, our beloved master, Muhammad (peace be upon him) made a prophecy in the following words[1]:
pakistanigurl12 3 years ago
What a spiritual discovery uncovered by this Super natural intellectual that MGA (as) revelation, 'I will cause the message to reach the corners of the world is an outrages blasphemy?
No Anti Ahmadiyya Scholar religious leader or Mullah was aware of this fact which is now brought out by this new scholar of Islam?.
Allah in Qur'an says that it is He who gives you rizq. It did not meant that Allah work for us & earn then gives it to man. But in practical man earn rizq by working day & night.
IJKBaluch 3 years ago
Salam.. 1st time heard u shahid brov.. u r perfectly ryt.. n once i ave bn to sum ahmadi's house.. by mistake r by blunder to b vry frank... bullshit... they r jus fukin waste of bloody time... dirty twats.. well done once again shahid brov...
azizshah575 3 years ago 2
mirza masroor khalifa V of ahmadis
once went to buy a whole bakra from a qasai
hazrat sahib : bakrey ka raan kidhar hai? qasai : bakra langra si
hazrat sahib :aur dil kidhar hai ?
qasai : woh bakri lay gaee
hazrat sahib : iska tau maghaz bhi nahi hai qasai : bakra ahmadi si
lahoria007 3 years ago 2
Mirza's only mission in life was to serve the british government like his family did & to get reward from them. He was made a false prophet by them to stop muslims fighting jihad against them & so mirza tried his best to fool the simple minded muslims of that time. Mirza was proved a liar the minute he died, he scared alot of his enemies that Allah has revealed to him that they will die very soon in his life time but befr them all he himself died of cholera, the disease he promised them!
sha86zad 3 years ago 2
ure a gronk... why dnt u let people believe wat they wanna belive and mind ure own business..
uomed8 3 years ago
You can ve any belief/faith, we have a soft corner for every religion according to teachings of Islam And Muhammad (PBUH)..but we cant tolerate with traitors. who are enemies to our brotherhood. dont use our Identity (Muslim). We ll not have any problem with you. you are not using cover of Islam and also cheating common Muslims with you ambiguous arguments...
so this will happenwe had to do this for safety of our faith
alisweet85 3 years ago
if u x ahmdi y usin our word,
even u hav a great cult u hyporit,im told u make a sx video of u tumpin ur mum or sista hahahahahahahahah
dnt teach me love bruv wen u already hav harted
ur frm hammersmith aint ya,
ukpakibeautygal 3 years ago
are all ahmedia just as dum as you?
AbuIsaSalafi 3 years ago 3
THIS FFATTT GAY IS NOT AHMIDI
ukpakibeautygal 3 years ago
Err, duhhhh!!!!
More of your "Love for All, Hatred for None", eh? Great cult you have there. Lovely people.
shahidkamal 3 years ago
Big up to this muslim brother. may Allah protect you bruv good work man hope to see more of your videos.
i wana make videos too about these clowns man if you could help me please.
ghulam ahmed is a pig and his followers are the tail/ following him blindly. READ THE QURAN PROPER YOUS EVIL MUSHRIK KAFERS
DhulFiqaar 3 years ago 3
well done shahid brother.you are sending excellent messages,may Allah reward you for this....
apnaJIMMY 4 years ago 4
This is still one the best vids i have ever seen about the lying and deceiving dajjal, Mirza Ghulam Ahmed. Iblis was a scholar too, but became a simple Kafir. Barakallah feek ya akhi shahidkamal. Please continue.
JH9STI 4 years ago 12
Brother you are looking heroin and alcoholic patient please consult me
MehmoodAhmed 4 years ago
@MehmoodAhmed
You shoud have born 100 years back in Mirza regime. Mirza was alcoholic (English WINE) and opium (Affeem) taker . But if Mirza would have consulted you, he would have adjusted your FEE in CHANDA payable by you.
Rizkhanae 4 years ago 3
allah should punish him who is aginst islam.allah should destroy him. aaammeeeeen
gujarlala 4 years ago
I agree. But I spell the name of Allah (SWT) with a capital 'A', whereas your god is YALASH. And you are the traitor who calls Muslims terrorists, which makes you an enemy of Islam, which turns your prayer onto yourself, doesn't it?
shahidkamal 4 years ago
Ameen
AbuIsaSalafi 4 years ago
shahidkamal.try and try are try.even your big big leaders tried but were disapointed.you are nothing but.......................
gujarlala 4 years ago
Did you actually watch the film? Did you have any comments on it? If not, peddle your hatred of Islam elsewhere.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
Are you insane? Allah says that there will be NOMORE prophet after Muhammad and now Mirza comes? Evidance: "O people! Muhammad has no sons among ye men, but verily, he is the Messenger of Allah and the last in the line of Prophets. And Allah is aware of everything." (33:40)
AbuIsaSalafi 4 years ago 2
true say man
Allah dose say that Prophet[peace be upon him] is the last prophet and these monkeys say that ghulam ahmed[may the curse of Allah be upn him ameen] is a prophet.
who is right yous monkeys or ALLAH?
DhulFiqaar 3 years ago 2
But kuffar are blind, deaf. evidance: Allâh has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearings, (i.e. they are closed from accepting Allâh's Guidance), and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be a great torment. (Al-Baqarah 2:7)
AbuIsaSalafi 4 years ago 2
keep it you exposes the faslehood and bring out the truth al islam Not ahamedwhatever
alwaysmuslim98 4 years ago
"Last in the line of Prophets" SPINNER U concoct "line of prophet" to open the gate for Jesus's trespass into Islam when "Wa Rasoolun ala Bani Israel". Last is last. Your spin that old can come new cannot, holds no water. Wama Mohammadin Illa Rasool qad khalat min qablahir rasool" Quran certifies Jesus as dead. Then what is the Jesus that Holy Prophet PBUH has prophecised to Nazool in Islam? Note Quran uses NAZOOL for Holy Prophet PBUH. Sport libas taqwa to obey Holy Prophet PBUH & become Ahmadi
JihadPenn 4 years ago
Lanatullahe alal Kazebeen..... Lanat of Allah upon the Liars... Inshallah.
watchmta 4 years ago
Like Mirza you mean?
shahidkamal 4 years ago
Allah (SWT) said, Lanatullahe alal Kazebeen..... Lanat of Allah upon the Liars... Inshallah... If Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) lied... His Jamat wouldn't stand in this position as it is now... Allah would have caught Him and His jamat...But Allah (swt) is always with ahmadies... This is a sign of His truth... You should ask yourself... Thus u should ask urself.... who is lying... and who should wait for Allah's lanat.
watchmta 4 years ago
Mirza's name is only known amongst Muslims as the liar who died of cholera on the toilet. (The fact is that he made his bed the toilet and the toilet was brought to him, but hey, that's how he is known). And Mirzais are known as being the ones who were unanimously kicked out of Islam by ALL the top ulama of the whole world. Not exactly lording it, are you?
shahidkamal 4 years ago
@watchmta
Many people or group of peple from evry community in the world are cummiting sins by disobeying Allah's orders. At times they are caught and in many cases Allah(ST) has neglected them for some reasons (better known to him)
Every disobeyers would be caught and questioned by Allah (ST), either here or after the death, dont worry for that.
Rizkhanae 4 years ago
ahmadiyas are KAFIRS
lmisbah 4 years ago
Thanks for the certification. We have obeyed Holy Prophet PBUH to believe in the Promised Messiah, we all the time pray & cry that God certifies us as Muslim. U disobedient to Holy Prophet PBUH, caling us Kafir is a feather in our cap.
JihadPenn 4 years ago
The message of love for all hatered for none, is something that rest of the muslims should learn. If there is one group of muslim worth promoting it's the Ahmadi muslims. Everywhere I go, I hear that Islam need reform. Well Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is the reformer and I think he done a good job reforming it. We in the west don't have to worry about these Ahmadi blowing up stuff or acting like violent lunatics
fazman30 4 years ago
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was an opportunist, a charlatan, a lickspittle of the murderous British empire, a consumer of opium, a drinker of tonic wine, a married-woman-chaser, a kaafir, a zindiq, a melancholic/manic-depressive, a self-aggrandiser, a potty-mouth and a money-chaser. Hardly reformer material...
shahidkamal 4 years ago
Nice said...But do u know hoe many people out their saying the same thing abt Muhammad(PBUH). So fight with them...why fighing with the founder of Ahmadiyya? how many of them out their. and how many out against muslims/Islam/Muhammad(pbuh)? So point ur sowrd agaist them not ahmadis...As far as I know they r Good Muslims and Maybe from Allah.
javedmahmood 4 years ago
If you say something like that about the prophet in front of a Muslim, see how long you would still have your teeth....
shahidkamal 4 years ago
U will surely break our teeth on a false allegation and put us to a tarnished justice of death. Thats your Islam. Holy Prophet PBUH endured blasphemy all his life he never gave punishement. Your Islam does not tie up with Holy Prophet PBUH. U have made TAQWA disposable.
JihadPenn 4 years ago
I feel so bad for you and your thinking May Allah Guide you and if it is not in your qismat may Allah destroy you and make you a lesson for other qadianis and other disbelivers
qsalman 4 years ago
qsalman, who is your message directed at?
shahidkamal 4 years ago
it is for all qadianis I am sorry if it reached you that was by mistake , I think we both are of the same believes may Allah bless you
qsalman 4 years ago
Thanks for the clarification, don't worry, I was not offended, just wondering whether you had placed your message correctly in the thread.
May Allah (swt) bless you too.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
It's not Mirza's message. He is spreading the message of God. Because Islam has been perverted by muslims. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is delivering the true reformed message back to it's orginal state, the message of peace brought to the world by Muhammad (pbuh). Different muslim groups have distorted the message over the years. Distorting the interpretation of the Quran. Get a clue man, we got people strapping bombs to themselves and blowing shit up. Get a clue.
fazman30 4 years ago
fazman, do you mean the message of calling people "haramzada", of invoking death threats to his opponents, of chasing married women publicly, of calling his opponents the progeny of whores? It is you who needs to get Mirza's message and it is you who needs to stop painting a distorted picture of Islam the way other enemies of Islam do.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
All I know is they ain't blowing shit up. There's a message of peace. The rest of you muslims are the "yes but muslim". Yes we blew that shit up but we had this reason or that reason. At least the Ahmadi muslims come out in full force against Jihad by the sword. That sir is a respectable position.
fazman30 4 years ago
ahmadies come to the truth !!Dont Follow the Kazaab... May Allah reward you Mr. Shahid for ur efforts.
mdrnoor 4 years ago
I pity this guy. He has not the ability to think rationally. Does he not understand that everything prevails due to Allah command. PITY THIS GUY
mike2only 4 years ago
Shahid kamal saaheb! May Allah's Blessings be onto you! And may Allah Give guidance to the "misguided Qadianis" thru your worthy discussions(Aameen)! JazakAllah Sir!
"Ana Khaatimu Nabeeyeen, Laa Nabee baadee!" Prophet Mohammad(SAW) said! And how can a person be a prophet who died in the Latrine! May Allah Give His guidance to the Qaadianis to become Muslims! Aameen!
farookjamali 4 years ago
care to elaborate on that?
adriandon 4 years ago
A prophet's message is not confined to the prophet alone...if what ur saying is true then how would have islam spread after the prophet muhammad (saw) died??? what about preachers?? How would you have become a muslim?? when the word 'cause' is used in this revelation...God can 'cause' the hearts and minds of people to open to the message of the promised messiah all around the globe...your argument is really weak
serendipity0502 4 years ago
No, the argument is very easy for those not blinded by kufr to understand. Mirza claimed that the message was his, not God's.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
Mirza Gulam Ahmeds message is clear for all muslim umma,he was messenger of God, before giving any comments you should be has enough knowledge of quraan,not for TABLA which u r playing.
jessusdead 4 years ago
I advise any qadiani who has any fear of God to look at this kafir's disrespectful nickname. Just like his charlatan "prophet", he is insulting a revered Muslim prophet.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
thanks for videeo
alimobin 4 years ago
lol qadyanis giv me jokes.."i wil cause thy message to reach the corners of the earth" do they really use this to claim they are right...trust me if u beleive in that then you might aswell beleive ronald mcdonald is a messenger (astakfirulah) cos they have approx 30 000 outlets in more than 120 countries! bro shahid keep up the good work, may allah shower you with blessings and give you the strength to carry on!
tojope 4 years ago
nice reply
hodh3 4 years ago
watch when i find this guy!!!
safeer221287 4 years ago
Qadiyani brothers, so who is dajjal? Boeing 777 is dajjal or George W Bush is dajjal?? Bush aaag barsata hay or
realstarabc 4 years ago
salam! 1) The Holly Prophet Muhammad(SAW)did receive revelations which are not part of Qran and that part is called Hadith-e-Qudsi!
2) yes the religion is complete! yet you also believe in coming of Isa and AlMahdi! Would Allah send revelations to them or not? And where it is written that Allah has now ceased to reveal!
3)A Prophet's message is Allah's message! and Allah's Message is the Prophet's Message! And they both work together! I wonder why you are angry about this simple fact!
pleasewelcome 4 years ago
Do you know what Holly is? Holly is a shrub.
You have nothing new to offer here, so please stop wasting everyone's time with your ramblings.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
I am done with my clerifications! Its upto you now, you keep it or leave it! And if you like to come back, make sure you come up with something substancial and new, something which could make some difference! A good difference, full of rightiousness!!! Wassalam!
pleasewelcome 4 years ago
When you say that Allah has nothing to do with his religion after he delivers it to his messengers and then its only Messengers' duty to spread it and to gaurd it.
Then you are stating that The Holly Prophet Muhammad (SAW), nauzubillah failed in his mission (because in that case, he could not convey his message to the majority of the people of the world within his life time!!!)
This in itself is a blasphemy!!!!
pleasewelcome 4 years ago
Its pathetic and jobless creature like you who are too lazy to get your bums off the chair and make stupid and ugly videos criticizing other people, and have information (which is false- every word of it) and goo off thinking their right
news flash.
get a life. get your infromation straight. and to save islam of disgrace go beocme a christian or something.
prove me everything you said in the video and i will beleive you....meh you know what i dont WANNA believe you.
IRONICPIMPIN 4 years ago
@PHIPPI46, I guess the previous Revelations were different, in the previous cases the Prophet of Allah tried to Spread the message of Allah by revelation, But in this case Allah is spreading the message of Mirza, So nauzubillah mirza is claiming himself to God too, like bahaullah did, becuase the plain english of mirza lol tells us.
2nd: Mirza is/was/will be a lier. like in quran it is said that, People promoto False messages of Allah by announcing them as WAHI/REVELATION like mirza did.
awais123 4 years ago
may allah paak bless you brother and welcome to jamaat al sunnaht sunni islam is the only true islam allah hu akbar
niaaz 4 years ago
@niaaz - jazakallah khayr
shahidkamal 4 years ago
please, stop dividing muslims, into, suni, shiya, wahabi etc.. a muslim is a muslim or else
imvoiceless 4 years ago
@br invoiceless. You are right to raise this point. I do not believe in sectarianism. I believe in what unites us - and all Muslims believe that no new prophet after Rasulullah (saw) will be appointed.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
@br shahidkamal: Allah has sent his final revelation (Qur'an) upon Syedena Mohammad, which is guidance to all humanity; Qur'anic law is the chosen Imam e Mehdi for humans. And that's what we Muslims follow.
Sects within Islam is because lack of understanding, so inshaAllah it's fading away as we speak, Cultic minds i.e., "Irshad Khilafa, Baha ullah, Mr Mirza die their own death, and face humiliation on this earth and hereafter, inshaAllah, we have seen the history repeat itself.
imvoiceless 4 years ago
awesome point Shahid bhai!
Orthodox786 4 years ago
And by the way Shahid Kamal sahab .. the revelations are also from Allah.. so it is Allah's Message.. and not Mirza Sahab's own message as you misleading people with your videos..its lie think about it before you post such things.
phippi46 4 years ago
@phippi46: Thank you for your comments.
"I will spread THY message". Whose message? Who is the rasul? Never in the history of the universe has this role reversal happened. You are the one who cannot think straight! Please do. Your soul is at stake.
The "revelation" clearly says "I will spread thy message to the corners of the earth". "Thy message" means "your message" (respectfully). Is it really so hard to understand this simple English?
shahidkamal 4 years ago
@shahid Kamal.. pls tell us that did Mirza Sahab mentioned in His Books about these revelations. Are these revelations are from Allah or He made them Himself ? you will see many time that these revelations are from Allah.. not from Him. You are lying again.
phippi46 4 years ago
@phippi - do you not understand plain English? If not, please don't try and discuss these matters in English.
1) Mirza claimed revelations from God
2) Mirz claimed that a role reversal with God
3) No prophet in history ever said that God would spread the Messenger's message. That would be stupid.
4) Mirza did claim the above
5) Ergo: Mirza was a liar and a charlatan.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
@shahid kamal I wonder why u dont to understand simple things,any way for us the mater is simple,He received revelations from Allah and wrote exactly in His Books, without any changes,'I'll Spread Thy Message." was revelation from Allah and He wrote as it is. Allah Promised Him that He'll Help spreading the Message and that we see 2day. Messengers in past spread the Message of Allah with the Help of Allah!without the Help Of Allah they were not able to do that,so whats the Problem.
phippi46 4 years ago
Aoa shahid bhai. First tell this Phippi the meaning of Revelations, then it ll be easy for him to understand, Revelation is the thing of the message FROM Allah Almighty, Now Mirza got the Revelation Like "I ll Spread Thy Message.." So Allah is telling to mirza By revelation/message/Wahi that ME(Allah) Nazu will spread Your(Mirza's) message right, So whats the message of Mirza, "GOD IS COMMING BY HIS ARMY" lol.
awais123 4 years ago
He didnt have any revelations. its people like you who lead other innocent people to beleive the wrong things. I know a loser like you has no idea in hell of what he is thinking about.
IRONICPIMPIN 4 years ago
if he hasnt any revelations then, what abt his claims? and 2nd try to open ur eyes, its written and found in the books of mirza, everything has been quoted cent percent from the mirza's book, and by the way are u GLOB100/TITAN3k are same i mean one man 3 ids.
awais123 4 years ago
Salam! Awais, (1) (if you pointed towards me to have 3 IDs) let me say, though I dont care who has how many ids, but i only have this one id at youtube.
(2) When a claim becomes truth, and Allah's help and decree is evident in its fulfilment, it becomes a sign of the truth of the revelation. If you dont accept this rule, then every revelation can easily be be rejected or doubted about? And if you still disagree, please bring forth your 'own' criterian for true revelation!
pleasewelcome 4 years ago
@pleaselwelcome: You are still blaspheming against your soul. The revelation CANNOT come true because it was IMPOSSIBLE. The MEssage belongs to God. It is not Mirza's message. Never was, never could have been. Do you not grasp the simple fact? Why would GOD spread MIRZA'S message? NEVER has this happened before!!!! EVER!!!!
shahidkamal 4 years ago
@pleasewelcome: i didnt point it 2 u but for this IRONICPIMPIN
2: if still the DOOR OF REVELATION IS OPEN THEN, i guess there is no need to say that Quran is the final book and the final revelation of Allah, And why Mirza hadnt compiled his revelation to form a new book against or after Quran? in Quran it is written that NOW THE RELIGON HAS BEEN FULLFILED, Where is the Revelations of mirza? all he got the Joking/evil revelations by IBLEES having NO SENSE. STILL UR MIND ACCEPT THAT GARBAGE?
awais123 4 years ago
2nd: why dont you accept the new prophet like Gohar shahi and yusuf Kizab? Still they declare that they got revelations from above? you ppl are still sticking with Mirza, there are nemourous ppl Who claim to be the prophet of God's please accept them as well. "...and they make lie againt Allah that we recived Revelation from Allah". please justify urslef in truith not in lies,
3rd: The door of revelations/wahi has been closed after Muhammad(s.a.w), if any body accept it he is a lier.
awais123 4 years ago
@awais123 if door of revelations/wahi has been closed then How Allah will communicate with Imam Mahdi or Isa which u belief that will come later some time.. ?? will u say to Isa that Quran is complete and in Quran u r Prophet to Bani Israel, so go there in Preach them ?? think before u open ur Jahil mouth
AhmadiOrg 4 years ago
..It is clear for us to see that Allah helped his Messenger Mirza Sahab and we see today His Message spread across the Glob. As He said over 100 years ago !
phippi46 4 years ago
@shahidkamal you know what is the meaning of this revelation ! I dont have to say that you are either lying or misleading people..Allah always help His Messengers to do their work spreading the Message of Allah, without Allah's Help it is not possible. Hazrat Mirza Sahab said exactly the same thing and I dont know why it is so difficult for you to understand..I think you know that with this revelation you failed again to mislead people to see the truth
phippi46 4 years ago
n pls the next time make a video without ur ugly face in it..it looks just as if the devil is speaking..
avwab 4 years ago
awwab: this is your discussion? nice!!! lol!!!
shahidkamal 4 years ago
shahid...mirza ghulam ahmed qadiani sahib just sent the same message that prophet Muhammad(PBUH) sent and that was the second advent of the messiah or mehdi..he didnt sent any new mesaage wat so ever..i dont no how in the word u cud call that blasphemous...reply to me as i would surely want to discuss with u.
avwab 4 years ago
awwab - please respond to the premise of the video. At no point in history was ANY messenger of God trying to turn God into his own messenger. Only Mirza did this because Mirza was not a messenger of God. He was an egomaniac with delusions of grandeur.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
Excellent work Brother.
Please keep it up.
May Allah Guide Ahmedi's to the right path and true islam and get themselves out of this Man made Cult Ameen
AzharAshraff 4 years ago
dear br. AzharAshraff - Ameen! Jazakallah khayr - the support of fellow Muslims is much appreciated.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
Once again a good, succint video. Your style is very informative as well as easy to understand. Look forward to your next video.May Allah keep his guidance upon us all.
Bablii 4 years ago
@Bablii - thank you for your support! It's much appreciated. Jazakallah
shahidkamal 4 years ago
Shahid YOU ARE THE MESSENGER! ur efforts will cause the message to reach the message even further heights.. every muslims responsibility is to forward the message of Islam! if there r ppl out there who have no conviction and have the willingness and intellect to openly debate and truly understand what Ahmadiyyat really stands for, without ppl like you feeding them hatred and garbage, they come in flocks! thankyou for the vid even tho it was pointless and lame,plz don't delete this post again!
trixxta 4 years ago
Trixxta - I haven't deleted any of your posts - but if you carry on accusing me of doing so, then I shall gladly bid you farewell.
Where have I fed anyone hatred and garbage? Have you actually read the garbage your prophet wrote?
shahidkamal 4 years ago
Barakallah feek ya akhi. Mashallah! Good vid!
jobs4rodney 4 years ago
Let's make it simple:
A Messenger conveys Allah's Message. If you turn this on its head, you are blaspheming.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
well, I just said it: it is mirza ghulams task. and he did it. but with this revelation it is said that God will help him to bring his and the holy prophets message (saw) to every corner of the earth.
rajputking 4 years ago
I don't think *you* get the point. Whose is the message? Of course we need God's help, without His Decree, nothing is possible. However, whose message is it? And if God is doing the spreading, what use is Mr. Mirza?
shahidkamal 4 years ago
I think you didn't get the point: of course it is the prophets job to spreasd the message. but without Gods help it is not possible. and that's the point here. God will help mirza sahib to spread the message and this revelation has become true through MTA or in the earlier days through review of religion.
rajputking 4 years ago
If you think Mirza Qadiani's message is being spread by MTA, then you're surely wrong because most of your viewers are cursing your programs and have actually learnt a lot about the true of Islam - which is of course not 'Ghulam-Ahamdiyyat'. I know several Qadiani families; they actually watch 'Islam Channel' not MTA cuz they say it's boring! Now, how can ur message be spreading through MTA when ur own creed is tuning out?
h4tabs 4 years ago
As for 'Review of Religion'; I always see the copies of it in Qadianis homes laying in the corner of their shelves or in the bulk of junk posts! And when we find errors and blasphemy in Qadiani publications; you guys hide it and try to argue that our criticisms are unfounded. By the way, how come Mirza is lacking in his capacity to travel a lot? Surely he wants to compete with Hazrat Isa (AS) in everything, why not in this matter?
h4tabs 4 years ago
Oooops!! Mirz's God Yalesh, the part-time postman of Queen Victoria, was also busy in spreading the message of his messenger!!! How could Ahmadis accept this comedian as a God!
fuaduae 4 years ago
powerful arguments with nice tabla :)
Bonkokong 4 years ago
Curiouser and curiouser!! The so-called revelations of this stupid mirza are getting weird and weird!! Thanks to your excellent videos.
hudarayyan 4 years ago
Great Shahid, Now mirza sahib hired Allah to spread his message, see how he use to make his "Ilhams"?
AKShaikh 4 years ago