@ZJemptv We don't care what you believe in you're just a person and what you do won't make much difference in the world. Even if you die people will just probably be happy for one day then next day,"So? He's just a person and not a very good one and I could hardly care."
@ZJemptv Well what did you expect? When you post videos and say,"God is not real" ?Most people get offended when people like YOU say that their God is not real.And you're making us Christians look bad, we don't talk like that, the people you showed in your video does not represent Christians, they are just individuals and some of them have limited vocabulary. I don't care what you do just stop making Christian/Catholics and other groups of people who believe in God look bad.
I used to be a "Christian" and my "Christian" writing contained "fuck", was appearing to be secular, plus it was saying positive things, so don't class Christians as a people spread to be evil when non-Christians are not, some Christians are very good, I was the good one, I badmouthed no one, I said nice things, I said nothing bad about homosexuals, it doesn't compare to everyone else in the church I went to: they told me off all the time like being touched by God is bad, well it's not a sin!
Christians have an extreme ability to ignore the bible completely where it orders and condones of rape, slavery, murder, and child abuse as well as places where it tells to turn the other cheek, respect and love their fellow man.
They also insist on interpreting the bible when the bible states that it is to be taken literally and that any and all interpretation by man is of evil.
I.e. being a christian doesn't mean you have to follow any rules only claim to follow christianity.
@Ghutom your comment is a lot of rubbish, my friend! If you want to know what Christians really believe, then ask, but garballing out a lot of prejudiced nonsense from your own imagination, is unworthy of my attention.
@Ghutom Hello friend. Why not? I would be more than happy to help you in that regard.
re "claims to hear the voice of god" - let me tell you about one experience I had: at age 24 yrs, I receive a vision of Christ. It was literally a moving picture, like someone would see if they were at a place or seeing it on a movie, with colours, movement, noise etc.
@Ghutom What I saw was a market place, with lots of people buying and selling. Christ weaved his way through all these people, walking in my direction, but then turned to the left in my picture. He suddenly stopped and turned to look straight at me as if looking into me. He didn't open his mouth at all. He instead spoke words in the Spirit directly into me. He said to me "Are you going to follow me?".
@Ghutom Friend, when you have something like this, you have no doubts, that God speaks to you. I realise that you as a non believer, will struggle to believe me and you may find all kinds of reasons why I must not be telling the truth, or maybe I must be dreaming or having some other problem etc, but I can tell you that non of that was the case.
To receive something like this from God is extremely beautiful & loving from God. I can assure you that if you had it, you would accept it
@Ghutom Hey friend, that's a rather depressing video about Schizophrenia and similar mental illnesses. It's not about following God or hearing from him. In fact, quite the opposite! Clearly these are stories of people who are hearing from satan to do evil things.
@Ghutom I feel very sorry for them and their families. I don't think you should try to make political capital out of these poor people and neither should the video maker. Its extremely insensitive to those families. Can you imagine if you were one of those families, turning on your computer going to youtube and seeing this callous video about your loved ones?
faithbylovings picking and choosing amongst what to follow and what to discard in scripture is typical of christians.
While they claim to love their neighbour, they simply ignore hating their family and their own life. They will gladly bash homosexuality while wearing polyester. They also add their own sentiments such as using certain words associated with feces, gender, or 'demonic beings' as being un-christian.
@Ghutom Still avoiding explaining the meaning of Luke 14:26 that you quoted? It is blatantly obvious to anyone reading your comments that you have idea what the passage that you yourself quoted, actually means!! Well, if you have been honest about that fact that you don't know and don't understand it, you would have at least given yourself credit for honesty!
@Ghutom regarding the rest of your comment, it is simply rubbish, so I won't waste my time in addressing what are simply your own imaginations about what you think Christians are about. Needless to say that your remarks are so far removed from the reality of what Christians are about, that you don't deserve the time of day for such rantings.
Ghutom's "cut and run" is typical of someone who has got themselves into a situation where their criticisms were not founded upon real knowledge, but only pure prejudice against Christians. When he found that he could not back up his claim to having knowledge of the Bible, he disappeared because he knew that he had got himself into a fix! He could not explain his incorrect use of Luke 14:26, which he himself quoted to me as if to indicate that Christ taught us to "hate" anyone, which he didn't
@faithbyloving You must be a more optimistic Christian, no swearing that's good. Trying to be truthful, pursuit of truth is earned by effort so you make perfect sense.
dont just be hating on Christians, you're making us look bad, i am fine with people believing whatever they want but would should not go to far in proving who is right and wrong, and creating a war on religion. You can believe what you want but if you don't have anything nice to say, don't day anything at all.
and withdrawing from anyone on YouTube is not what I am used to doing, unless the conversation has reached a natural end.
So please ZJempty, do a similar video, highlighting the vile comments and abusive language from Atheists...it may make you more honest in your presentation of people's behaviours! (and lets not pretend that Atheists language is always nice - as I said, in my experience some of the worst abusers on Youtube are so called "Atheists".
..And lets be honest here! From my experience on YouTube, this kind of language is normally directed against Christians by Atheists! I have had some bad experiences from both Atheists and Muslims, but the worst was from a professed "Atheist" whose language was so vile in the extreme, that it became obvious that he or she was possessed by demons. I can normally put up with abusive language, which usually comes from atheists, but on this occassion it was so bad, that I had to withdraw from them
@faithbyloving "From my experience on YouTube, this kind of language is normally directed against Christians by Atheists!"
I understand your concern that lumping so many potent examples of Christians being evil can create the false impression that all Christians are evil and feed anti-Christian sentiment. But this video provides at least one very important service: It lets Christians see some of the real anger and abuse meted out in the name of Christianity they may ignore or didn't know about.
@iridescentsquids Thank you for your message. Firstly, a little info on practical definitions - demographically "Christianity" is the largest world "religion", by which is meant that it consists of the largest group of people who are associated in some way, shape or form by influence of Christian ideas.
This is distinct from devout practicing "followers of Christ", who may be contained within this larger group of "Christianity". The First group does not imply the 2nd group
@faithbyloving "This is distinct from devout practicing "followers of Christ", who may be contained within this larger group of "Christianity". The First group does not imply the 2nd group"
I don't see the relevance of this distinction to my post. The quoted comments appear to be from people expressing their own Christian perspective, not just "Christians" who happen to be behaving badly.
Whether or not you personally consider them true "followers of Christ" is a different subject, isn't it?
@iridescentsquids The people that have been represented by this video maker (zinnia jones), are clearly not practicing or devout followers of Christ, since their behaviour and words, make this abundantly clear for anyone to see. Jesus said a tree is Known by its fruit and therefore we see people represented here whose motive has more to do with tribalism, than a conviction of following Christ who died for all men, women and children to receive forgiveness and Peace.
@faithbyloving "The people that have been represented by this video maker (zinnia jones), are clearly not practicing or devout followers of Christ"
They are undeniably Christian by any common definition of the term. I suppose that would be your first definition from your previous post, although the people quoted in the video may very well disagree with you and say YOU aren't the true Christian.
@iridescentsquids re "They are undeniably Christian by any common definition of the term" - Yes, I agree that a common and rather inaccurate "definition" of the term "christian" can include all kinds of people, including mass murderers, dictators, torturers, and even people who make unkind comments on youtube videos, however, the true meaning of "Christian" as opposed to the common usage of the term, does not refer to such people, but to those who follow Christ and the gospel
@iridescentsquids The original term was actually coined by people at Antioch in the first century, as a term of abuse towards the earliest devout believers and followers of Christ who were distinct by their practice of faith. It was not applied to the kind of people "featured" in this video, whose behaviour demonstrates that they are not devout followers of Christ. The original term as used here is the correct term, not the one today in common usage.
@iridescentsquids re "people quoted in the video may very well disagree with you and say YOU aren't the true Christian" - that doesn't matter whether they consider me a "Christian" or not. It makes no difference to me. The verse in Galatians 5:22 defines for us, the character of a Christian as displaying: "Love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, ..."
(Gal 5:23) "Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law"
@iridescentsquids This explanation therefore exposes the misleading impression given in this video - you acknowledged this yourself here: "lumping so many potent examples of Christians being evil can create the false impression that all Christians are evil" - by perceptively noting that it is a "false impression" and I have given the reason why this false impression or association is frequently made by non believers.
@faithbyloving "I have given the reason why this false impression or association is frequently made by non believers."
That's not for you to decide, although I'm happy to hear what you have to say.
You really don't have anything to learn from the people who have been mistreated by Christians? It sounds very bold and head-strong, and a bit absurd, for you to say you know that none of them are actually Christian. It's equally likely from my perspective that you are in denial or rationalizing.
@iridescentsquids re "That's not for you to decide" - really? Isn't that what the maker of the video had already done when he made the video, (decided)? Isn't that what you too have already "decided"? Forgive me if I'm wrong, but it appears that you had "decided" yourself, as in "judged", but you cannot allow me to also "decide" or rather form a judgement?
@iridescentsquids In my case, my judgement is based upon the definitions of the Bible, rather than common perceptions or more accurately misconceptions that abound amongst the general public.
@faithbyloving "In my case, my judgement is based upon the definitions of the Bible, rather than common perceptions"
Which I have no problem with. But when people complain about belief systems called "Christian" that don't match your own, you still understand what they are talking about, don't you? Do you agree that this video isn't wrong to criticize the Christianity it does because it's a Christianity that justifies such hideous comments? Seems like you agree it should be criticized.
@iridescentsquids re "mistreated by Christians?" - again, by the Bible definition, they are not "christians". The truth is no matter what walk of life we might examine, you will find people who have been labelled as part of a group of people to whom they do not belong because they don't fit the description. You will find this even amongst "atheists", "agnostics" etc. The error is in mislabelling people in the first place, not in the true definition.
@faithbyloving "The error is in mislabelling people in the first place, not in the true definition."
It may be definitional problem. But consider this: there is a belief system out there which is commonly called "Christian", and which the person who made the video is referring to. And it's THIS belief system which justifies the threatening and nasty comments that have been made. Call this belief system whatever name you want, the person who made the video and you both know it exists.
@iridescentsquids re "it's THIS belief system which justifies the threatening and nasty comments that have been made" - that's precisely the point! The Christian beliefs are all taken from the Bible and the Bible doesn't instruct anyone to use "threatening" or "nasty" comments. This is exactly why it has nothing to do with the Christian faith or the Gospel. There is no gospel passage in which a devout follower of Christ is instructed to use "nasty comments" or "threaten"
@iridescentsquids Actually it is for this reason ( the misconceptions about what is a Christian), that I, prefer to call myself a "follower of Christ". However the "belief system" as you call it is the Bible and no where does it instruct a follower to hurt others or make "nasty comments".
@iridescentsquids re "mistreated by Christians?" - let me also say, that anyone of any walk of life, can make a "mistake". We are human after all. However, the kind of behaviour used in this video cannot be described as a 'mistake'. Kind words come from kind people. Hurtful words from hurtful people. This is not to say that I don't make mistakes! I do, but it would look nothing like what you see on this video and when I make a mistake, I will feel bound to apologise for it
@faithbyloving "However, the kind of behaviour used in this video cannot be described as a 'mistake'. Kind words come from kind people. Hurtful words from hurtful people."
I think you, I and the person who made this video would agree. But you seem reluctant to attribute such hateful comments to a belief system which uses the name "Christianity". If you forget the name for a second, can you at least agree that there is such a "religious" belief system out there that justifies this bad behavior?
@faithbyloving "re "a "religious" belief system out there that justifies this bad behavior?" - I don't actually know of one."
I would say that the people writing the comments quoted in the video believe something that makes them feel justified in behaving that way. As twisted as it sounds, when I read their comments I certainly do get the impression they feel as if they are on the right side of god. I don't know how you can deny that they believe that.
@faithbyloving "re "a "religious" belief system out there that justifies this bad behavior?" - I don't actually know of one."
I would say that the people writing the comments quoted in the video believe something that makes them feel justified in behaving that way. As twisted as it sounds, when I read their comments I certainly do get the impression they feel as if they are on the right side of god. I don't know how you can deny that they believe that.
@faithbyloving "re "a "religious" belief system out there that justifies this bad behavior?" - I don't actually know of one."
I would say that the people writing the comments quoted in the video believe something that makes them feel justified in behaving that way. As twisted as it sounds, when I read their comments I certainly do get the impression they feel as if they are on the right side of god. I don't know how you can deny that they believe that.
@faithbyloving "a "religious" belief system out there that justifies this bad behavior?" - I don't actually know of one."
I would say that the people writing the comments quoted in the video believe something that makes them feel justified in behaving that way. As twisted as it sounds, when I read their comments I certainly do get the impression they feel as if they are on the right side of god. I don't know how you can deny that they believe that.
@faithbyloving "re "a "religious" belief system out there that justifies this bad behavior?" - I don't actually know of one."
I would say that the people writing the comments quoted in the video believe something that makes them feel justified in behaving that way. As twisted as it sounds, when I read their comments I certainly do get the impression they feel as if they are on the right side of god. I don't know how you can deny that they believe that.
@iridescentsquids re "none of them are actually Christian" - I can safely vouch for that and say that they cannot be followers of Christ if they produce behaviour such as that featured on this video. That is not my opinion, that is because the Bible says that a Christian must not use foul language, but gentle and peaceable etc. Its not "rocket science"! Get a Bible and look it up for yourself in the New Testament!
@iridescentsquids Therefore the effect of this video IS to give a false impression about the Christian faith, when it has absolutely nothing to do with the Christian faith. I would almost lean over to apologise to you for "christians being so rude", were it not for the fact, that they cannot be Christians in the true meaning of the word, since Christ hasn't instructed anyone to try to hurt other people. So I cannot "own" such people or their behaviour to apologise for it.
@faithbyloving "Therefore the effect of this video IS to give a false impression about the Christian faith"
Only from your very specific perspective. The video does not make a blanket statement regarding ALL Christians, so any viewer who is a little discerning won't read this as a generalization so much as a presentation of examples of hypocrisy by people who call themselves Christian (whether they are or not by this or that standard is not the primary point being made)
@iridescentsquids Well whether of not the intention of this video is to give a false impression of Christian faith or not, it IS giving a false impression as you yourself acknowledged in your first statement, for which I thank you for your honesty. Should I make a video about another group of people among whom are people who hurt others? Lets say about Labour supporters, or perhaps people from a 'gay group', should I be giving the false impression that they are all offensive?
If you don't mind answering my questions: Do you believe the people making the comments listed in this video feel justified in making these statements because of their beliefs (even if they are false beliefs) regarding god and god's morality? In other words, do you believe that their version of Christianity (even if it's false) encourages them to act this way?
@iridescentsquids re "Do you believe the people making the comments listed in this video feel justified in making these statements because of their beliefs" - No. Not at all. The motive of a follower of Christ must always be to express the love for that person that God has for that person. Therefore, in a sense, a follower must speak for the Lord of the Lord's love and concern for that person.
@faithbyloving "No. Not at all. The motive of a follower of Christ "
but you yourself said that these people are not "followers of Christ". I'm asking about these people making the hateful comments imbued with Christian rhetoric, not people who you call "followers of Christ".
@iridescentsquids Another thing - all of us are imperfect, the Bible defines all of us as "sinners", that is people who think wrong thoughts, say wrong things, do wrong things. Whatever standard you measure this against, you will find that is true. However, measured against the standard of a Holy God, then all of us are sinners including me.
We even fail to live up to our own expectations, let alone those of God. How many times have you been disappointed with yourself?
@iridescentsquids speaking for myself, I have a lifetime of disappointing myself by my own heart (thoughts/mind), and behaviour. No wonder! That is why Christ came, to enable us to be overcomers of our own failures, by his love and empowerment. This is why the people in the video are described in the Bible as carnal, not subject to this love and empowerment. However, Christ does not look at our sin. He looks at us! It us as individuals he is interested in, not our failure!
@iridescentsquids So, the people in the video are not acting on behalf of Christ, or in any way related to the message of the gospel (usually referred to as Christian). Of course the video maker is already aware of this, because he gives the video a sarcastic title "what Christian love looks like"! This is misleading as it gives the impression that Christian love as taught in the Christian Gospel, teaches followers to make nasty comments, swear & be abuse, which it doesn't
@iridescentsquids There is no excuse for someone pretending to be a christian, using foul language, swearing, being abusive, trying to hurt people. There is absolutely NO justification for this according to the Christian faith and the Bible.
Where ever these people get these attitudes from, it is not from the Bible and therefore does not represent the Christian faith in any shape or form.
If it is a "version of Christianity" as you allege, then it is heretical & unscriptural
@iridescentsquids ...and this leads on to its natural conclusion, regarding ("It lets Christians see some of the real anger and abuse meted out in the name of Christianity they may ignore or didn't know about") - namely if a madman with an axe murders a whole family and he is from a background associated in some way with "Christianity", though I may offer my sincere condolences & care to relatives, I cannot realistically apologise to them for something nothing to do with me!
@faithbyloving "I cannot realistically apologise to them for something nothing to do with me!"
No, of course not. But who is attacking whom? Lets assume you are correct, and none of these people are "true" Christians, this video can't be an attack on Christianity...it merely points out the hypocrisy among people who CALL themselves Christian. You should be sympathizing. The fact remains that these individuals, Christian or not, ARE attacking and wishing harm in some pretty cruel and evil ways.
@iridescentsquids re "points out the hypocrisy among people who CALL themselves Christian" - I call myself Christian, for the simple reason that I received the Lord Jesus in my life at age 24 yrs, not because I want to be under a label of "Christian". I don't "sympathise" because I don't recognise such people as "Christian". They are not. In fact, Christians, that is devout followers of Christ as some of the most targetted and persecuted people in the world and many killed
@faithbyloving "I don't "sympathise" because I don't recognise such people as "Christian"."
No, sympathize with the person who posted this video, who is being attacked by people who use religion to justify their behavior. It's unfortunate for your version of Christianity that the insist on calling themselves "Christian" but they do. Don't blame the person who made the video for that. You should be upset with them, not the video.
@iridescentsquids re "You should be upset with them, not the video." - I see the point you are trying to make, but the fact remains that the video attempts to misrepresent Christ and the Gospel, as it sarcastically targets followers of Christ, who have been called "Christians" for centuries. As such it adds to the considerable amount of anti-christian prejudice and presumptions against the Christian community of believers, whose sincere desire is to follow the gospel of Christ
@faithbyloving "but the fact remains that the video attempts to misrepresent Christ and the Gospel, as it sarcastically targets followers of Christ,"
I disagree. I think this video represents one person's personal experiences in a limited setting (youtube) with people who call themselves Christians. As such, it's not an intentional misrepresentation of Christianity, as you imply. At MOST it is an accidental one. There's no reason to believe the person who made the video isn't honest.
@Ghutom Hello friend. Yes. Is it your sincere desire to follow the Lord Jesus Christ too?
I am glad to hear that!
Regarding your questions though - you appear to misunderstand the gospel! The Lord is calling you to give up your ENTIRE LIFE not your possessions! God does not want your possessions, HE WANTS YOU! God already owns Everything in this world. What he asks for is for you to lay down your life for him, not your possessions.
@Ghutom Again friend, you misinterpret Christ's meaing of "hating your father, brother, sister" etc! Christ spoke many words of symbolism and analogy. Here he was not at all speaking "Literally" to hate anyone! How do we know?..Because He commanded us to "Love your neighbour as yourself" and guess what? ..this includes ALL YOUR FAMILY! So you see friend, misinterpreting scripture like that will lead you astray!
@Ghutom Mark 12:30-31 "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ 31 The second is this: ‘LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOURSELF.’ There is no commandment greater than these" - and since "there is NO COMMANDMENT GREATER THAN THESE", Christ could NOT have meant anyone to Literally "hate their brother, father, sister" etc!
Never mind! You're not the first to make that mistake and you won't be the last!
How do YOU decide what is meant literally and what should be taken figuratively?
Are you a prophet of god, does he speak to you in person? Are you the founder of chistianity, are you the bringer of divine law? Do you consider yourself above your fellow man? Do you consider yourself above Jesus? You pick and choose amongst his divine decrees?
You are not a christian, not in any literal sense of the word.
You're not the first to make that mistake and you won't be the last!
@Ghutom re "How do YOU decide what is meant literally and what should be taken figuratively?" - Years of study and practice with the Word of God, my friend.
re "Are you a prophet of god, does he speak to you in person?" - I don't regard myself as a "prophet", no. However in answer to the second part of your question, yes he does speak to me in person, yes.
I too have studied, what makes your study better than mine, what makes your conclusions more correct? You don't 'regard' yourself as a prophet yet you claim to be one. You do KNOW what a prophet is, no? And you HAVE studied, no? (Do I really need to supply a quote about false prophets?)
@Ghutom re "what makes your study better than mine" - did I say they were? Forgive me, but I don't remember saying so and I don't know what study or "conclusions" you are claiming to have.
No. I'm not a prophet and didn't say I am one.
re "Do I really need to supply a quote about false prophets?" - what for? I don't think we are talking about prophets here, unless you are keen to change the subject to that?
@Ghutom However, if you are wanting to disagree with the possibility of prophecy, then you are entitled to your opinion, though I would have to disagree with you. I am not a prophet, though even I have on occassions, been given foreknowledge of events, that by nature, I would have no knowledge of. In general, I leave prophecy to those who are gifted with it. I am more interested in caring for others where I see the need, or in sharing the good news of Christ.
@Ghutom re "I claim that You [faithbyloving] are no more a 'real christian' than they and that you do not follow scripture anymore than they do" - I see.
re "You claim that my interpretation of scripture is faulty and that yours is correct due to your years of study" - I'm sorry. I will allow you to explain the meaning of your quotation to me about Christ saying we should hate our brother, father, sister and our own life - please explain the meaning of this passage? Perhaps I misunderstood your intention? I will wait for your explanation of this verse.
You claim the abilities and status of a prophet but refuse the title labeling you? I'm sorry, that is not for you to decide.
Prophet - noun. a person who speaks by divine inspiration.
The very book whitch you claim to have both studied and follow speaks exstensively about the dangers of listening to prophets, claiming to be a prophet, and the punishment for falsely prophesying.
@Ghutom re "You claim the abilities and status of a prophet" - No I haven't at all. These are your words, not mine. I have never made any such claim. You may be a prophet and in that case, I await your words.
re "the dangers of listening to prophets, claiming to be a prophet, & the punishment for falsely prophesying" - does it? Please explain with details. This sounds very interesting. Does it also explain the dangers of not listening to prophets & the punishment for disobedience?
@Ghutom re "You pick and choose which part to take literally and which to ignore completly" - do I? or is it possible that this is what you do, by any chance?
re "You also took your lord gods name in vain" - the real meaning of this is "do not take the character of the Lord in vain", and no, I haven't here, thank you.
@faithbyloving It's not unknowable what's going on, it's simple: misinterpretation. The Bible is a literal thing, only magic's involved but the evil is ironic, the Old Testament in all its sarcasm is really saying not to act like a Jew, think about it, Jews were kind of naughty even to kill people, Moses was the worst, he's the Bible's enemy in fact, sarcasm to learn not to behave that way.
@Hoobifta Hi friend. Thanks for your comments. Can I give you my opinion?
1) The Bible is not a science book
2) The Bible has many different types of writings in it. Some can be taken literally, while many are figurative or symbolic
3) The Bible contains much ancient history of Israel. It doesn't mean that God approves of all of this history. It does mean that the Bible is honest about the sins of men and the resulting punishment or corrections from God.
4) That history was not recorded just as writing about the past, but because it speaks about the Present and the Future prophetically!
5) Then there is the prophets: Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Zecharia, etc, who all foretell things which have not yet happened, but will happen in the future. Some of these things have already happened, such as the Return of Israel from the worldwide diaspora of Jews. This happened in 1948 and 1967 and continues, because God commands it!
@Ghutom re "Don't be so humble, you're not that great" - well, I will be humble and wait for your explanation of Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life--he cannot be my disciple"? May I suggest you also compare this with Matthew 10:37 "Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me"
@faithbyloving Humbleness is unsinful but modesty is a sin if it's painfully said. Christianity is embarrassing so go ahead call me an "atheist", I'm an agnostic and a pantheist.
@Ghutom Ok, I've made it easy for you, but you should be able to understand the real meaning of Jesus words by comparing the motive, sentiment and metaphor's used in these two verses. However, I await your explanation of what Jesus meant in Luke 14:26 ?
No, I've already made my point, and your actions have demonstrated me correct as well as anything you have said has failed to refute it. I therefore have no reason to continue discussing this with someone of such limited mental capacity as yourself.
Indeed you have made it easy for me since my purpose was simply to demonstrate to others how incredibly close-minded, ignorant and stupid christians are.
Thank you for your participation and may you get an education.
I invited you to explain your interpretation of the meaning of Luke 14:26 which you quoted, but your avoidance and reluctance to explain your interpretation, leaves us all with the inevitable and inescapable conclusion that you actually have no interpretation of the passage! Please ask if you need any more help.
Thank you so much it was nice to meet you. May the Lord Yeshua bless you richly and also your family. Take care!
@Ghutom The true interpretation of "hating father, brother, sister" etc, is that Christ calls us to "hate even our own life" (the part you missed out!), in comparison to the Love, Passion, Faith and Obedience that we are to have for God. The point Christ was making was one of PRIORITY TOWARDS GOD, not one of "Hating" anyone!!
In effect, Christ hated his own body to the cross, so that he could LOVE HIS OWN FAMILY TO HEAVEN! (doesn't sound much like 'hate' to me!)
I really hate spamming ZJs vid like this, would you allow me to inform you of the errors of your way through an other forum? Perhaps one not restricted to 500 characters?
@Ghutom My friend, may the Lord Yeshua make himself know to you personally and may you bow your head and bend your knees beneath the cross and receive the Lord Yeshua and His life instead of your own failed life. May he also bless you and all your family.
@iridescentsquids Let me also say this very clearly. A Christian is not a person who speaks to others with the specific intention of hurting them, with hurtful words. This is not the character of a follower of Christ. I will support no one who does such behaviour. Whoever they are, they are not converted to Christ and therefore not Christian.
@faithbyloving "This is not the character of a follower of Christ."
You're getting way off topic. I understand everything you are saying, and fully and wholeheartedly agree that there are many many Christians who wouldn't support such behavior.
But you're getting so hung up on the use (or misuse) of the term "Christian" that you are ignoring the point of the video.
@iridescentsquids I don't support or condone anyone using this kind of language or behaviour, whatever they call themselves & if you are honest about it, you will recognise this kind of abusive manner is found among many groups of people, not just some people who "think" they are "christians" (even though by biblical definitions they are not). re "you are ignoring the point of the video" - well, my perspective on the video is that it is Misrepresenting Christ & that offends me
@iridescentsquids I think you will follow my logic here, but this leads on to question more succinctly what was the real motive for Zinnia Jones making such a video with clearly demonstrable false impressions in it?
Zinnia Jones must know the answer to that himself and looking at a number of others of his videos, one is led to the inescapable conclusion that he is Christophobe or Anti-Christian.
@faithbyloving "what was the real motive for Zinnia Jones making such a video with clearly demonstrable false impressions in it?"
Are the quotes provide false? Made up? You really don't believe that people who call themselves Christians behave this way? I know first hand that they do, so you'll have a difficult time convincing me otherwise.
It's unfair to write off the FACT of this behavior, which is nearly all the video presents, one example after another, as biased against Christianity.
@cosmiccrank1 If they are Genuine quotes, the are certainly NOT from a follower of Christ. No follower of Christ uses this kind of abusive language. I do warn people not to choose the path to Hell, but it is in no way for any kind of abuse. It is to warn them of the result of rejecting Christ. However, I do not use abusive swear words. This is Against the the commandment of God.
An attitude that is anything but christian.. We are not to judge , God knows the depth of the heart and he deals with it.. Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails. (1 Corinthians 13)
@ZJemptv I'm sorry you've been subjected to such abuse by others. I'm Christian and what these people are saying is not coming from the Jesus I know! - God loves you no matter what! He loves you unconditionally, regardless of who you are or the actions you take. It is not their place or any person's place to judge and I just wanted you to know we're not all like that. I hope your view of Christianity's message of grace and love has not been marred by these people. Peace be with you, God bless.
I bet people did this on purpose. I don't cuss or anything, and yes imma Christian. Jesus is real, God is real, Heaven is real, and Hell is real. One day, when you die (if u dont believe in christ) you'll be sorry for not believening Him. Make fun of me now.. i don't care. I'm telling the truth & making fun of me and calling me names won't hurt me bc Jesus is on my side. You'll see one day, GOD IS REAL <3
I've just subscribed to you, my friend; stay strong; you have many on your side (although I know, as an atheist myself, that it rarely seems that way)!
Not all Christians act like this. Sad fact that we preach love (and are against hypocrisy, for that matter), but so many don't show it. And yes, I am (shamefully) in the same group as so many intolerant people.
If you're arguments for god are so strong, why do you so frequantly resort to irrelevant personal attacks for example "Faggot" "You're going to hell for being an atheist." "You are an ugly cross dresser" etc. Rather than making any legitament points? Deprecating Zinna isn't going to prove god's existance.
@Chayraz2 Well I can say that I'm Christian and I do not resort to such things. I agree with you that people doing such things have misplaced their better judgement! Whenever I debate I endeavour to be balanced and to merely show the understanding I have, I do not swear at people or condemn them. Even last week, when I had a person say that all Christian's should be persecuted in the fashion that China has persecuted Christians in the past, I did not swear or degrade them. (cont)
@Chayraz2 (cont) Instead I merely pointed out what a poor and base thing that was to say, showed my reasoning for that and then said good day to them, and once they were less hostile and openly advocating persecution I would talk to them again. Nobody should begin ranting and raving ,condemning and swearing! And as a Christian I do not do this, I know loads of others who do not do such things either. I am all for spreading the love of God, to do that we must be loving!
@Chayraz2 (cont 2) So I'd be happy to try and answer some of your questions and will not say such nasty things, just as I've expressed to Zinna that I'm sorry people feel they can do such things. Not all Christians are like this, in fact most aren't! I used to be atheist, I've sat on both sides of the fence, and there's small minorities in both sides that give the rest a bad name/ rep. Have a great day, God bless.
You know what is more important.....stop electing presidents who believe in the same SHIT as these people. Fuck man, I thought people would care about their political system by now!
Talking shit is the eventual result of people who are afraid they might be wrong.
And it's funny all they do is just "curse" and say "bible","Jesus","god" every second.
They cling so desperately onto words that it makes you doubt their entire faith,because those with faith do not rely on words or books or names...they simply believe,and if someone does not agree with them-then they should not care.
Faith is not based on any factor but faith-They lack it,so they keep being on the defensive.
Very very sad that they think it is their job to judge. They apparently have never read their own bible. I'm sorry these people act like this sir, I really am.
From a Christian on this vid: Comment 1: Horrible language (faggot) and couldn't understand half of it because of the appalling grammar. 2. I don't think calling Atheists names is a viable argument. Also he just says, "God did it" and expects you to just accept it when that's never gonna happen, you need an actual argument. 3. It's sad to judge. I for one think you look lovely. I won't go on and on, just thought you'd like to know there are many Christians who aren't like the ones in this vid.
Did it ever occur that when these "Christians" speak and act like this they're Not behaving like Christians? Jesus was pretty clear - or so I thought - that not every self-proclaimed follower will enter Heaven. Hell will be populated by theives, murders, rapists, child-abusers, etc. and by Christians who thought saying "I believe" was a Get Out of Jail Free card. One has to obey the law, not just read it and nod...
@ThePatriotsfan01 Well it was either christians or muslims, and quite frankly, even though the writing skills of these commenters are piss-poor, muslims are even worse at writing.t it.
Nevermind all that though. CHRISTIANS are the ones being persecuted (because they no longer have the freedom to torture and kill whoever they want anymore).
Oh, yay. Don't worry, I too have gotten death threats for my sexuality and atheism. On top of that, I've been told that I'm going to Hell for having purple hair. Where people get this insanity from, I have no idea.
clearly some people have forgotten that men used to have long hair and wear make-up and finery all the time... this was considered normal and manly - especially the high heels!
King Loius XIV is a prime example of such a manly man :)
Mark Twain once said while smoking his Peterson. "There has only been one Christian. He was crucified at an early age." Christian do not know love. In the newspaper not long ago and pastor found a kid squatting on some of his land in a tent. He had the kid arrested. Jesus would of brought him in and fed him. Christians no longer know love.
typical atheist.You have no proof that everyone of those comments were from christians and you are an intolerant and disrespectful person. We are supposed to respect you people and be tolerant yet you sit behind you're camera and talk shit about us and are intolerant of us GTFO with that load of shit.
@SethNemah or atheists or agnostics or any other variety. "What's different with Christians" - as a people group labelled "Christian" nothing. All men and women are Sinners. However, a follower of Christ, who may be a Christian, does not use abusive language like this.
OK 1st OF All I am Not Gonna Waste My Time Clarifying That God Exists because i know that in my mind he dose . But why Would Waste Your Time Looking Up On The Internet Making A whole YouTube Page About It . Respect Peoples Religion because your wasting your time bashing and hating on my God When There IS 50.00 more ?! Seriously It's a word called RESPECT .. Idc If you dont believe in my god it's still not an excuse for hatting on a world wide religion .
@XxEpicTacossXx Maybe Christians should stop hating on Atheism, "yes please respect my Christianity, but i can tell you to go to hell all i want you filthy atheist scum hahahahaha" If Christians can go on and try to tell people there is a God, why can't an Atheist go around telling people that there isnt a God. Jeez respect our belief that there is not God and quit hating!!!
Wolffang200: Science changes when it realizes it's wrong, as TRUE knowledge does. Fake religions don't change, because they are limited and primitive mind control tools.
I'd MUCH rather trust this (CHANGING?!) science, thank you very much ;)
i try to tell xtians all the time, hey when you judge me for not believing your book you are doing gods work, and in that book it says only god judges, so i tell them THEY are going to the hell they believe in. god is a dick and kills indicriminantly, he would be pissed that someone else is trying to do his work. but since xtians do not actually read the bible they will never understand
I've been watching a lot of your videos and it seems you have a great amount of hatred for Christians, which I just don't understand. I know you may not agree with them for whatever reasons, but you just seem to be bashing on Christians. It seems as if you are trying to get people to not believe in Christ, but this is wrong because for some Christ is apart of their identity, and you are stripping them of part of their idenitity.
@ZJemptv We don't care what you believe in you're just a person and what you do won't make much difference in the world. Even if you die people will just probably be happy for one day then next day,"So? He's just a person and not a very good one and I could hardly care."
Kylsen3kings 1 day ago
@ZJemptv Well what did you expect? When you post videos and say,"God is not real" ?Most people get offended when people like YOU say that their God is not real.And you're making us Christians look bad, we don't talk like that, the people you showed in your video does not represent Christians, they are just individuals and some of them have limited vocabulary. I don't care what you do just stop making Christian/Catholics and other groups of people who believe in God look bad.
Kylsen3kings 1 day ago
@ZJemptv Would you tell me the name of the music used on the video? The link provided is not functional anymore, it seems. Thank you in advance o/
calsecaz 3 days ago
I live my life by the question WWSSD? (What Would Solid Snake Do?)
TenWhoWereTaken 2 weeks ago
Ahhh. I can feel all the love just emanating from them... Ow.
UmbraSomnium1 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I used to be a "Christian" and my "Christian" writing contained "fuck", was appearing to be secular, plus it was saying positive things, so don't class Christians as a people spread to be evil when non-Christians are not, some Christians are very good, I was the good one, I badmouthed no one, I said nice things, I said nothing bad about homosexuals, it doesn't compare to everyone else in the church I went to: they told me off all the time like being touched by God is bad, well it's not a sin!
Hoobifta 2 weeks ago
We all know that Zinnia is a fucking faggot and proud of it, you fucking pussy-ass beotches!!!
CarrickBuff100 2 weeks ago
faggot = gay
homosexual = gay
man wey dey do man = gay its called synonyms
djt241 2 weeks ago
Christians have an extreme ability to ignore the bible completely where it orders and condones of rape, slavery, murder, and child abuse as well as places where it tells to turn the other cheek, respect and love their fellow man.
They also insist on interpreting the bible when the bible states that it is to be taken literally and that any and all interpretation by man is of evil.
I.e. being a christian doesn't mean you have to follow any rules only claim to follow christianity.
Ghutom 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
@Ghutom your comment is a lot of rubbish, my friend! If you want to know what Christians really believe, then ask, but garballing out a lot of prejudiced nonsense from your own imagination, is unworthy of my attention.
faithbyloving 2 weeks ago
@faithbyloving
If I wanted to know what christians believe I wouldn't ask an apologetic like you who claims to hear the voice of god.
/watch?v=FWt09VIdD10
Ghutom 2 weeks ago
@Ghutom Hello friend. Why not? I would be more than happy to help you in that regard.
re "claims to hear the voice of god" - let me tell you about one experience I had: at age 24 yrs, I receive a vision of Christ. It was literally a moving picture, like someone would see if they were at a place or seeing it on a movie, with colours, movement, noise etc.
faithbyloving 2 weeks ago
@Ghutom What I saw was a market place, with lots of people buying and selling. Christ weaved his way through all these people, walking in my direction, but then turned to the left in my picture. He suddenly stopped and turned to look straight at me as if looking into me. He didn't open his mouth at all. He instead spoke words in the Spirit directly into me. He said to me "Are you going to follow me?".
faithbyloving 2 weeks ago
@faithbyloving: SHUT UP NO ONE CARES.
lordalastor99 4 hours ago in playlist Favorite videos
@Ghutom He looked at me for a short time, then turning back to the left, moved on. He didn't wait for an answer.
I have to say that I was truly astonished at what I had seen and in my years since as a follower of Christ, I have not seen anything like this since.
faithbyloving 2 weeks ago
@Ghutom Friend, when you have something like this, you have no doubts, that God speaks to you. I realise that you as a non believer, will struggle to believe me and you may find all kinds of reasons why I must not be telling the truth, or maybe I must be dreaming or having some other problem etc, but I can tell you that non of that was the case.
To receive something like this from God is extremely beautiful & loving from God. I can assure you that if you had it, you would accept it
faithbyloving 2 weeks ago
@Ghutom Hey friend, that's a rather depressing video about Schizophrenia and similar mental illnesses. It's not about following God or hearing from him. In fact, quite the opposite! Clearly these are stories of people who are hearing from satan to do evil things.
faithbyloving 2 weeks ago
@Ghutom I feel very sorry for them and their families. I don't think you should try to make political capital out of these poor people and neither should the video maker. Its extremely insensitive to those families. Can you imagine if you were one of those families, turning on your computer going to youtube and seeing this callous video about your loved ones?
faithbyloving 2 weeks ago
faithbylovings picking and choosing amongst what to follow and what to discard in scripture is typical of christians.
While they claim to love their neighbour, they simply ignore hating their family and their own life. They will gladly bash homosexuality while wearing polyester. They also add their own sentiments such as using certain words associated with feces, gender, or 'demonic beings' as being un-christian.
Ghutom 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
@Ghutom Still avoiding explaining the meaning of Luke 14:26 that you quoted? It is blatantly obvious to anyone reading your comments that you have idea what the passage that you yourself quoted, actually means!! Well, if you have been honest about that fact that you don't know and don't understand it, you would have at least given yourself credit for honesty!
faithbyloving 2 weeks ago
@Ghutom regarding the rest of your comment, it is simply rubbish, so I won't waste my time in addressing what are simply your own imaginations about what you think Christians are about. Needless to say that your remarks are so far removed from the reality of what Christians are about, that you don't deserve the time of day for such rantings.
faithbyloving 2 weeks ago
Ghutom's "cut and run" is typical of someone who has got themselves into a situation where their criticisms were not founded upon real knowledge, but only pure prejudice against Christians. When he found that he could not back up his claim to having knowledge of the Bible, he disappeared because he knew that he had got himself into a fix! He could not explain his incorrect use of Luke 14:26, which he himself quoted to me as if to indicate that Christ taught us to "hate" anyone, which he didn't
faithbyloving 3 weeks ago
@faithbyloving You must be a more optimistic Christian, no swearing that's good. Trying to be truthful, pursuit of truth is earned by effort so you make perfect sense.
Hoobifta 2 weeks ago
waste of time watching this.....
goddess4994 3 weeks ago
lol...
TheWisemonkey8 1 month ago
dont just be hating on Christians, you're making us look bad, i am fine with people believing whatever they want but would should not go to far in proving who is right and wrong, and creating a war on religion. You can believe what you want but if you don't have anything nice to say, don't day anything at all.
misskatie999 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
and withdrawing from anyone on YouTube is not what I am used to doing, unless the conversation has reached a natural end.
So please ZJempty, do a similar video, highlighting the vile comments and abusive language from Atheists...it may make you more honest in your presentation of people's behaviours! (and lets not pretend that Atheists language is always nice - as I said, in my experience some of the worst abusers on Youtube are so called "Atheists".
faithbyloving 1 month ago
..And lets be honest here! From my experience on YouTube, this kind of language is normally directed against Christians by Atheists! I have had some bad experiences from both Atheists and Muslims, but the worst was from a professed "Atheist" whose language was so vile in the extreme, that it became obvious that he or she was possessed by demons. I can normally put up with abusive language, which usually comes from atheists, but on this occassion it was so bad, that I had to withdraw from them
faithbyloving 1 month ago
@faithbyloving "From my experience on YouTube, this kind of language is normally directed against Christians by Atheists!"
I understand your concern that lumping so many potent examples of Christians being evil can create the false impression that all Christians are evil and feed anti-Christian sentiment. But this video provides at least one very important service: It lets Christians see some of the real anger and abuse meted out in the name of Christianity they may ignore or didn't know about.
iridescentsquids 4 weeks ago in playlist LGBTQ HATE CRIME PROJECT, AND OTHER RELATED MATERIAL
@iridescentsquids Thank you for your message. Firstly, a little info on practical definitions - demographically "Christianity" is the largest world "religion", by which is meant that it consists of the largest group of people who are associated in some way, shape or form by influence of Christian ideas.
This is distinct from devout practicing "followers of Christ", who may be contained within this larger group of "Christianity". The First group does not imply the 2nd group
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
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@faithbyloving "This is distinct from devout practicing "followers of Christ", who may be contained within this larger group of "Christianity". The First group does not imply the 2nd group"
I don't see the relevance of this distinction to my post. The quoted comments appear to be from people expressing their own Christian perspective, not just "Christians" who happen to be behaving badly.
Whether or not you personally consider them true "followers of Christ" is a different subject, isn't it?
iridescentsquids 4 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids The people that have been represented by this video maker (zinnia jones), are clearly not practicing or devout followers of Christ, since their behaviour and words, make this abundantly clear for anyone to see. Jesus said a tree is Known by its fruit and therefore we see people represented here whose motive has more to do with tribalism, than a conviction of following Christ who died for all men, women and children to receive forgiveness and Peace.
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
@faithbyloving "The people that have been represented by this video maker (zinnia jones), are clearly not practicing or devout followers of Christ"
They are undeniably Christian by any common definition of the term. I suppose that would be your first definition from your previous post, although the people quoted in the video may very well disagree with you and say YOU aren't the true Christian.
iridescentsquids 4 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids re "They are undeniably Christian by any common definition of the term" - Yes, I agree that a common and rather inaccurate "definition" of the term "christian" can include all kinds of people, including mass murderers, dictators, torturers, and even people who make unkind comments on youtube videos, however, the true meaning of "Christian" as opposed to the common usage of the term, does not refer to such people, but to those who follow Christ and the gospel
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids The original term was actually coined by people at Antioch in the first century, as a term of abuse towards the earliest devout believers and followers of Christ who were distinct by their practice of faith. It was not applied to the kind of people "featured" in this video, whose behaviour demonstrates that they are not devout followers of Christ. The original term as used here is the correct term, not the one today in common usage.
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids re "people quoted in the video may very well disagree with you and say YOU aren't the true Christian" - that doesn't matter whether they consider me a "Christian" or not. It makes no difference to me. The verse in Galatians 5:22 defines for us, the character of a Christian as displaying: "Love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, ..."
(Gal 5:23) "Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law"
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids The Bible is the rightly the only authoritative definer of what is a Christian. Our opinions about it are not relevant.
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids This explanation therefore exposes the misleading impression given in this video - you acknowledged this yourself here: "lumping so many potent examples of Christians being evil can create the false impression that all Christians are evil" - by perceptively noting that it is a "false impression" and I have given the reason why this false impression or association is frequently made by non believers.
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
@faithbyloving "I have given the reason why this false impression or association is frequently made by non believers."
That's not for you to decide, although I'm happy to hear what you have to say.
You really don't have anything to learn from the people who have been mistreated by Christians? It sounds very bold and head-strong, and a bit absurd, for you to say you know that none of them are actually Christian. It's equally likely from my perspective that you are in denial or rationalizing.
iridescentsquids 4 weeks ago
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@iridescentsquids re "That's not for you to decide" - really? Isn't that what the maker of the video had already done when he made the video, (decided)? Isn't that what you too have already "decided"? Forgive me if I'm wrong, but it appears that you had "decided" yourself, as in "judged", but you cannot allow me to also "decide" or rather form a judgement?
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids In my case, my judgement is based upon the definitions of the Bible, rather than common perceptions or more accurately misconceptions that abound amongst the general public.
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
@faithbyloving "In my case, my judgement is based upon the definitions of the Bible, rather than common perceptions"
Which I have no problem with. But when people complain about belief systems called "Christian" that don't match your own, you still understand what they are talking about, don't you? Do you agree that this video isn't wrong to criticize the Christianity it does because it's a Christianity that justifies such hideous comments? Seems like you agree it should be criticized.
iridescentsquids 4 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids re "mistreated by Christians?" - again, by the Bible definition, they are not "christians". The truth is no matter what walk of life we might examine, you will find people who have been labelled as part of a group of people to whom they do not belong because they don't fit the description. You will find this even amongst "atheists", "agnostics" etc. The error is in mislabelling people in the first place, not in the true definition.
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
@faithbyloving "The error is in mislabelling people in the first place, not in the true definition."
It may be definitional problem. But consider this: there is a belief system out there which is commonly called "Christian", and which the person who made the video is referring to. And it's THIS belief system which justifies the threatening and nasty comments that have been made. Call this belief system whatever name you want, the person who made the video and you both know it exists.
iridescentsquids 4 weeks ago
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@iridescentsquids re "it's THIS belief system which justifies the threatening and nasty comments that have been made" - that's precisely the point! The Christian beliefs are all taken from the Bible and the Bible doesn't instruct anyone to use "threatening" or "nasty" comments. This is exactly why it has nothing to do with the Christian faith or the Gospel. There is no gospel passage in which a devout follower of Christ is instructed to use "nasty comments" or "threaten"
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids Actually it is for this reason ( the misconceptions about what is a Christian), that I, prefer to call myself a "follower of Christ". However the "belief system" as you call it is the Bible and no where does it instruct a follower to hurt others or make "nasty comments".
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids re "mistreated by Christians?" - let me also say, that anyone of any walk of life, can make a "mistake". We are human after all. However, the kind of behaviour used in this video cannot be described as a 'mistake'. Kind words come from kind people. Hurtful words from hurtful people. This is not to say that I don't make mistakes! I do, but it would look nothing like what you see on this video and when I make a mistake, I will feel bound to apologise for it
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
@faithbyloving "However, the kind of behaviour used in this video cannot be described as a 'mistake'. Kind words come from kind people. Hurtful words from hurtful people."
I think you, I and the person who made this video would agree. But you seem reluctant to attribute such hateful comments to a belief system which uses the name "Christianity". If you forget the name for a second, can you at least agree that there is such a "religious" belief system out there that justifies this bad behavior?
iridescentsquids 4 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids re "a "religious" belief system out there that justifies this bad behavior?" - I don't actually know of one.
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
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@faithbyloving "re "a "religious" belief system out there that justifies this bad behavior?" - I don't actually know of one."
I would say that the people writing the comments quoted in the video believe something that makes them feel justified in behaving that way. As twisted as it sounds, when I read their comments I certainly do get the impression they feel as if they are on the right side of god. I don't know how you can deny that they believe that.
iridescentsquids 4 weeks ago
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@faithbyloving "re "a "religious" belief system out there that justifies this bad behavior?" - I don't actually know of one."
I would say that the people writing the comments quoted in the video believe something that makes them feel justified in behaving that way. As twisted as it sounds, when I read their comments I certainly do get the impression they feel as if they are on the right side of god. I don't know how you can deny that they believe that.
iridescentsquids 4 weeks ago
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@faithbyloving "re "a "religious" belief system out there that justifies this bad behavior?" - I don't actually know of one."
I would say that the people writing the comments quoted in the video believe something that makes them feel justified in behaving that way. As twisted as it sounds, when I read their comments I certainly do get the impression they feel as if they are on the right side of god. I don't know how you can deny that they believe that.
iridescentsquids 4 weeks ago
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@faithbyloving "a "religious" belief system out there that justifies this bad behavior?" - I don't actually know of one."
I would say that the people writing the comments quoted in the video believe something that makes them feel justified in behaving that way. As twisted as it sounds, when I read their comments I certainly do get the impression they feel as if they are on the right side of god. I don't know how you can deny that they believe that.
iridescentsquids 4 weeks ago
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@faithbyloving "re "a "religious" belief system out there that justifies this bad behavior?" - I don't actually know of one."
I would say that the people writing the comments quoted in the video believe something that makes them feel justified in behaving that way. As twisted as it sounds, when I read their comments I certainly do get the impression they feel as if they are on the right side of god. I don't know how you can deny that they believe that.
iridescentsquids 4 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids re "none of them are actually Christian" - I can safely vouch for that and say that they cannot be followers of Christ if they produce behaviour such as that featured on this video. That is not my opinion, that is because the Bible says that a Christian must not use foul language, but gentle and peaceable etc. Its not "rocket science"! Get a Bible and look it up for yourself in the New Testament!
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids Therefore the effect of this video IS to give a false impression about the Christian faith, when it has absolutely nothing to do with the Christian faith. I would almost lean over to apologise to you for "christians being so rude", were it not for the fact, that they cannot be Christians in the true meaning of the word, since Christ hasn't instructed anyone to try to hurt other people. So I cannot "own" such people or their behaviour to apologise for it.
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
@faithbyloving "Therefore the effect of this video IS to give a false impression about the Christian faith"
Only from your very specific perspective. The video does not make a blanket statement regarding ALL Christians, so any viewer who is a little discerning won't read this as a generalization so much as a presentation of examples of hypocrisy by people who call themselves Christian (whether they are or not by this or that standard is not the primary point being made)
iridescentsquids 4 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids Well whether of not the intention of this video is to give a false impression of Christian faith or not, it IS giving a false impression as you yourself acknowledged in your first statement, for which I thank you for your honesty. Should I make a video about another group of people among whom are people who hurt others? Lets say about Labour supporters, or perhaps people from a 'gay group', should I be giving the false impression that they are all offensive?
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
@faithbyloving " it IS giving a false impression"
If you don't mind answering my questions: Do you believe the people making the comments listed in this video feel justified in making these statements because of their beliefs (even if they are false beliefs) regarding god and god's morality? In other words, do you believe that their version of Christianity (even if it's false) encourages them to act this way?
iridescentsquids 4 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids re "Do you believe the people making the comments listed in this video feel justified in making these statements because of their beliefs" - No. Not at all. The motive of a follower of Christ must always be to express the love for that person that God has for that person. Therefore, in a sense, a follower must speak for the Lord of the Lord's love and concern for that person.
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
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@faithbyloving "No. Not at all. The motive of a follower of Christ "
but you yourself said that these people are not "followers of Christ". I'm asking about these people making the hateful comments imbued with Christian rhetoric, not people who you call "followers of Christ".
iridescentsquids 4 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids Another thing - all of us are imperfect, the Bible defines all of us as "sinners", that is people who think wrong thoughts, say wrong things, do wrong things. Whatever standard you measure this against, you will find that is true. However, measured against the standard of a Holy God, then all of us are sinners including me.
We even fail to live up to our own expectations, let alone those of God. How many times have you been disappointed with yourself?
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids speaking for myself, I have a lifetime of disappointing myself by my own heart (thoughts/mind), and behaviour. No wonder! That is why Christ came, to enable us to be overcomers of our own failures, by his love and empowerment. This is why the people in the video are described in the Bible as carnal, not subject to this love and empowerment. However, Christ does not look at our sin. He looks at us! It us as individuals he is interested in, not our failure!
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids So, the people in the video are not acting on behalf of Christ, or in any way related to the message of the gospel (usually referred to as Christian). Of course the video maker is already aware of this, because he gives the video a sarcastic title "what Christian love looks like"! This is misleading as it gives the impression that Christian love as taught in the Christian Gospel, teaches followers to make nasty comments, swear & be abuse, which it doesn't
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids There is no excuse for someone pretending to be a christian, using foul language, swearing, being abusive, trying to hurt people. There is absolutely NO justification for this according to the Christian faith and the Bible.
Where ever these people get these attitudes from, it is not from the Bible and therefore does not represent the Christian faith in any shape or form.
If it is a "version of Christianity" as you allege, then it is heretical & unscriptural
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids ...and this leads on to its natural conclusion, regarding ("It lets Christians see some of the real anger and abuse meted out in the name of Christianity they may ignore or didn't know about") - namely if a madman with an axe murders a whole family and he is from a background associated in some way with "Christianity", though I may offer my sincere condolences & care to relatives, I cannot realistically apologise to them for something nothing to do with me!
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
@faithbyloving "I cannot realistically apologise to them for something nothing to do with me!"
No, of course not. But who is attacking whom? Lets assume you are correct, and none of these people are "true" Christians, this video can't be an attack on Christianity...it merely points out the hypocrisy among people who CALL themselves Christian. You should be sympathizing. The fact remains that these individuals, Christian or not, ARE attacking and wishing harm in some pretty cruel and evil ways.
iridescentsquids 4 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids re "points out the hypocrisy among people who CALL themselves Christian" - I call myself Christian, for the simple reason that I received the Lord Jesus in my life at age 24 yrs, not because I want to be under a label of "Christian". I don't "sympathise" because I don't recognise such people as "Christian". They are not. In fact, Christians, that is devout followers of Christ as some of the most targetted and persecuted people in the world and many killed
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
@faithbyloving "I don't "sympathise" because I don't recognise such people as "Christian"."
No, sympathize with the person who posted this video, who is being attacked by people who use religion to justify their behavior. It's unfortunate for your version of Christianity that the insist on calling themselves "Christian" but they do. Don't blame the person who made the video for that. You should be upset with them, not the video.
iridescentsquids 4 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids re "You should be upset with them, not the video." - I see the point you are trying to make, but the fact remains that the video attempts to misrepresent Christ and the Gospel, as it sarcastically targets followers of Christ, who have been called "Christians" for centuries. As such it adds to the considerable amount of anti-christian prejudice and presumptions against the Christian community of believers, whose sincere desire is to follow the gospel of Christ
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
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@faithbyloving "but the fact remains that the video attempts to misrepresent Christ and the Gospel, as it sarcastically targets followers of Christ,"
I disagree. I think this video represents one person's personal experiences in a limited setting (youtube) with people who call themselves Christians. As such, it's not an intentional misrepresentation of Christianity, as you imply. At MOST it is an accidental one. There's no reason to believe the person who made the video isn't honest.
iridescentsquids 4 weeks ago
@faithbyloving
Is it your sincere desire to follow the gospel of the lord jesus christ as laid forth in the bible?
To take him into your heart and follow his command wherever it may take you?
Then.....
Why have you not given up all your worldly possessions?
Why don't you hate your mother, father, brother, and sister? (Luke 14:26)
Because...
You're not a christian, you're just full of shit!
Good for you you're not alone. You can huddle up with all your so-called christian friends
Ghutom 3 weeks ago
@Ghutom Hello friend. Yes. Is it your sincere desire to follow the Lord Jesus Christ too?
I am glad to hear that!
Regarding your questions though - you appear to misunderstand the gospel! The Lord is calling you to give up your ENTIRE LIFE not your possessions! God does not want your possessions, HE WANTS YOU! God already owns Everything in this world. What he asks for is for you to lay down your life for him, not your possessions.
faithbyloving 3 weeks ago
@Ghutom Again friend, you misinterpret Christ's meaing of "hating your father, brother, sister" etc! Christ spoke many words of symbolism and analogy. Here he was not at all speaking "Literally" to hate anyone! How do we know?..Because He commanded us to "Love your neighbour as yourself" and guess what? ..this includes ALL YOUR FAMILY! So you see friend, misinterpreting scripture like that will lead you astray!
faithbyloving 3 weeks ago
@Ghutom Mark 12:30-31 "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ 31 The second is this: ‘LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOURSELF.’ There is no commandment greater than these" - and since "there is NO COMMANDMENT GREATER THAN THESE", Christ could NOT have meant anyone to Literally "hate their brother, father, sister" etc!
Never mind! You're not the first to make that mistake and you won't be the last!
faithbyloving 3 weeks ago
@faithbyloving
How do YOU decide what is meant literally and what should be taken figuratively?
Are you a prophet of god, does he speak to you in person? Are you the founder of chistianity, are you the bringer of divine law? Do you consider yourself above your fellow man? Do you consider yourself above Jesus? You pick and choose amongst his divine decrees?
You are not a christian, not in any literal sense of the word.
You're not the first to make that mistake and you won't be the last!
Ghutom 3 weeks ago
@Ghutom re "How do YOU decide what is meant literally and what should be taken figuratively?" - Years of study and practice with the Word of God, my friend.
re "Are you a prophet of god, does he speak to you in person?" - I don't regard myself as a "prophet", no. However in answer to the second part of your question, yes he does speak to me in person, yes.
re "Are you the founder of chistianity?" - No.
re "are you the bringer of divine law?" - No.
faithbyloving 3 weeks ago
@faithbyloving
I too have studied, what makes your study better than mine, what makes your conclusions more correct? You don't 'regard' yourself as a prophet yet you claim to be one. You do KNOW what a prophet is, no? And you HAVE studied, no? (Do I really need to supply a quote about false prophets?)
Ghutom 3 weeks ago
@Ghutom re "what makes your study better than mine" - did I say they were? Forgive me, but I don't remember saying so and I don't know what study or "conclusions" you are claiming to have.
No. I'm not a prophet and didn't say I am one.
re "Do I really need to supply a quote about false prophets?" - what for? I don't think we are talking about prophets here, unless you are keen to change the subject to that?
faithbyloving 3 weeks ago
@Ghutom However, if you are wanting to disagree with the possibility of prophecy, then you are entitled to your opinion, though I would have to disagree with you. I am not a prophet, though even I have on occassions, been given foreknowledge of events, that by nature, I would have no knowledge of. In general, I leave prophecy to those who are gifted with it. I am more interested in caring for others where I see the need, or in sharing the good news of Christ.
faithbyloving 3 weeks ago
@faithbyloving
Allow me to recap so that you may catch up.
The subject;
You claim that the messages in the video at hand were not from 'real christians'.
I claim that You [faithbyloving] are no more a 'real christian' than they and that you do not follow scripture anymore than they do.
Ghutom 3 weeks ago
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@Ghutom re "I claim that You [faithbyloving] are no more a 'real christian' than they and that you do not follow scripture anymore than they do" - I see.
faithbyloving 3 weeks ago
@faithbyloving
If you can't remeber things from less than 2 hours ago I don't give much for your years of study.
You claim that my interpretation of scripture is faulty and that yours is correct due to your years of study.
Ghutom 3 weeks ago
@Ghutom
re "You claim that my interpretation of scripture is faulty and that yours is correct due to your years of study" - I'm sorry. I will allow you to explain the meaning of your quotation to me about Christ saying we should hate our brother, father, sister and our own life - please explain the meaning of this passage? Perhaps I misunderstood your intention? I will wait for your explanation of this verse.
faithbyloving 3 weeks ago
@faithbyloving
You claim the abilities and status of a prophet but refuse the title labeling you? I'm sorry, that is not for you to decide.
Prophet - noun. a person who speaks by divine inspiration.
The very book whitch you claim to have both studied and follow speaks exstensively about the dangers of listening to prophets, claiming to be a prophet, and the punishment for falsely prophesying.
Ghutom 3 weeks ago
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@Ghutom re "You claim the abilities and status of a prophet" - No I haven't at all. These are your words, not mine. I have never made any such claim. You may be a prophet and in that case, I await your words.
re "the dangers of listening to prophets, claiming to be a prophet, & the punishment for falsely prophesying" - does it? Please explain with details. This sounds very interesting. Does it also explain the dangers of not listening to prophets & the punishment for disobedience?
faithbyloving 3 weeks ago
@faithbyloving
You pick and choose which part to take literally and which to ignore completly.
The difference between you and the christians in the video would be certain foul words which your highly regarded scripture does not mention.
You also took your lord gods name in vain and would according to scripture clearly join the rest of us in eternal hell fire.
-“Don't be so humble, you're not that great.”
Ghutom 3 weeks ago
@Ghutom re "You pick and choose which part to take literally and which to ignore completly" - do I? or is it possible that this is what you do, by any chance?
re "You also took your lord gods name in vain" - the real meaning of this is "do not take the character of the Lord in vain", and no, I haven't here, thank you.
faithbyloving 3 weeks ago
@faithbyloving It's not unknowable what's going on, it's simple: misinterpretation. The Bible is a literal thing, only magic's involved but the evil is ironic, the Old Testament in all its sarcasm is really saying not to act like a Jew, think about it, Jews were kind of naughty even to kill people, Moses was the worst, he's the Bible's enemy in fact, sarcasm to learn not to behave that way.
Hoobifta 2 weeks ago
@Hoobifta Hi friend. Thanks for your comments. Can I give you my opinion?
1) The Bible is not a science book
2) The Bible has many different types of writings in it. Some can be taken literally, while many are figurative or symbolic
3) The Bible contains much ancient history of Israel. It doesn't mean that God approves of all of this history. It does mean that the Bible is honest about the sins of men and the resulting punishment or corrections from God.
faithbyloving 2 weeks ago
@Hoobifta
4) That history was not recorded just as writing about the past, but because it speaks about the Present and the Future prophetically!
5) Then there is the prophets: Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Zecharia, etc, who all foretell things which have not yet happened, but will happen in the future. Some of these things have already happened, such as the Return of Israel from the worldwide diaspora of Jews. This happened in 1948 and 1967 and continues, because God commands it!
faithbyloving 2 weeks ago
@Ghutom re "Don't be so humble, you're not that great" - well, I will be humble and wait for your explanation of Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life--he cannot be my disciple"? May I suggest you also compare this with Matthew 10:37 "Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me"
faithbyloving 3 weeks ago
@faithbyloving Humbleness is unsinful but modesty is a sin if it's painfully said. Christianity is embarrassing so go ahead call me an "atheist", I'm an agnostic and a pantheist.
Hoobifta 2 weeks ago
@Ghutom Ok, I've made it easy for you, but you should be able to understand the real meaning of Jesus words by comparing the motive, sentiment and metaphor's used in these two verses. However, I await your explanation of what Jesus meant in Luke 14:26 ?
faithbyloving 3 weeks ago
@faithbyloving
No, I've already made my point, and your actions have demonstrated me correct as well as anything you have said has failed to refute it. I therefore have no reason to continue discussing this with someone of such limited mental capacity as yourself.
Indeed you have made it easy for me since my purpose was simply to demonstrate to others how incredibly close-minded, ignorant and stupid christians are.
Thank you for your participation and may you get an education.
Ghutom 3 weeks ago
@Ghutom
I invited you to explain your interpretation of the meaning of Luke 14:26 which you quoted, but your avoidance and reluctance to explain your interpretation, leaves us all with the inevitable and inescapable conclusion that you actually have no interpretation of the passage! Please ask if you need any more help.
Thank you so much it was nice to meet you. May the Lord Yeshua bless you richly and also your family. Take care!
faithbyloving 3 weeks ago
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@Ghutom re "Do you consider yourself above your fellow man?" - No, beneath him.
re "Do you consider yourself above Jesus?" - No, why, do you?
re "You pick and choose amongst his divine decrees?" - No, I don't. I recognise they are context specific.
re "You are not a christian, not in any literal sense of the word." - hmm? Interesting!
re "You're not the first to make that mistake and you won't be the last!" - sure, thank you, friend.
May the Lord Jesus Christ bless you abundantly!
faithbyloving 3 weeks ago
@Ghutom The true interpretation of "hating father, brother, sister" etc, is that Christ calls us to "hate even our own life" (the part you missed out!), in comparison to the Love, Passion, Faith and Obedience that we are to have for God. The point Christ was making was one of PRIORITY TOWARDS GOD, not one of "Hating" anyone!!
In effect, Christ hated his own body to the cross, so that he could LOVE HIS OWN FAMILY TO HEAVEN! (doesn't sound much like 'hate' to me!)
faithbyloving 3 weeks ago
@faithbyloving
Mark 12:24 And Jesus said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
Ghutom 3 weeks ago
@faithbyloving
I really hate spamming ZJs vid like this, would you allow me to inform you of the errors of your way through an other forum? Perhaps one not restricted to 500 characters?
Ghutom 3 weeks ago
@Ghutom My friend, may the Lord Yeshua make himself know to you personally and may you bow your head and bend your knees beneath the cross and receive the Lord Yeshua and His life instead of your own failed life. May he also bless you and all your family.
faithbyloving 3 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids Let me also say this very clearly. A Christian is not a person who speaks to others with the specific intention of hurting them, with hurtful words. This is not the character of a follower of Christ. I will support no one who does such behaviour. Whoever they are, they are not converted to Christ and therefore not Christian.
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
@faithbyloving "This is not the character of a follower of Christ."
You're getting way off topic. I understand everything you are saying, and fully and wholeheartedly agree that there are many many Christians who wouldn't support such behavior.
But you're getting so hung up on the use (or misuse) of the term "Christian" that you are ignoring the point of the video.
iridescentsquids 4 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids I don't support or condone anyone using this kind of language or behaviour, whatever they call themselves & if you are honest about it, you will recognise this kind of abusive manner is found among many groups of people, not just some people who "think" they are "christians" (even though by biblical definitions they are not). re "you are ignoring the point of the video" - well, my perspective on the video is that it is Misrepresenting Christ & that offends me
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
@iridescentsquids I think you will follow my logic here, but this leads on to question more succinctly what was the real motive for Zinnia Jones making such a video with clearly demonstrable false impressions in it?
Zinnia Jones must know the answer to that himself and looking at a number of others of his videos, one is led to the inescapable conclusion that he is Christophobe or Anti-Christian.
faithbyloving 4 weeks ago
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iridescentsquids 4 weeks ago
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@faithbyloving "what was the real motive for Zinnia Jones making such a video with clearly demonstrable false impressions in it?"
Are the quotes provide false? Made up? You really don't believe that people who call themselves Christians behave this way? I know first hand that they do, so you'll have a difficult time convincing me otherwise.
It's unfair to write off the FACT of this behavior, which is nearly all the video presents, one example after another, as biased against Christianity.
iridescentsquids 4 weeks ago
I feel like all of these quotes were picked from out bad Christians.
cosmiccrank1 1 month ago
@cosmiccrank1 If they are Genuine quotes, the are certainly NOT from a follower of Christ. No follower of Christ uses this kind of abusive language. I do warn people not to choose the path to Hell, but it is in no way for any kind of abuse. It is to warn them of the result of rejecting Christ. However, I do not use abusive swear words. This is Against the the commandment of God.
faithbyloving 1 month ago
An attitude that is anything but christian.. We are not to judge , God knows the depth of the heart and he deals with it.. Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails. (1 Corinthians 13)
God bless
miya2518 1 month ago
It's always sad to me how people write the contraction "you're" as "your"; "ur" drives me to drink.
Bastmosis 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Bastmosis yeah its a tragedy - not like those trivial wars going on huh? Better go get drunk now!
BiggerThinking1 1 month ago
@ZJemptv I'm sorry you've been subjected to such abuse by others. I'm Christian and what these people are saying is not coming from the Jesus I know! - God loves you no matter what! He loves you unconditionally, regardless of who you are or the actions you take. It is not their place or any person's place to judge and I just wanted you to know we're not all like that. I hope your view of Christianity's message of grace and love has not been marred by these people. Peace be with you, God bless.
SDWLLB 1 month ago
I love you Zinnia
Plasticplas1 1 month ago
LOOK THIS UP: Why I hate religion, but love Jesus
MahomieFansRule 1 month ago
I bet people did this on purpose. I don't cuss or anything, and yes imma Christian. Jesus is real, God is real, Heaven is real, and Hell is real. One day, when you die (if u dont believe in christ) you'll be sorry for not believening Him. Make fun of me now.. i don't care. I'm telling the truth & making fun of me and calling me names won't hurt me bc Jesus is on my side. You'll see one day, GOD IS REAL <3
MahomieFansRule 1 month ago
I've just subscribed to you, my friend; stay strong; you have many on your side (although I know, as an atheist myself, that it rarely seems that way)!
jerico641 1 month ago
Not all Christians act like this. Sad fact that we preach love (and are against hypocrisy, for that matter), but so many don't show it. And yes, I am (shamefully) in the same group as so many intolerant people.
LyssaLynn98 1 month ago
Zinnia bench presses 350 lbs and can disembowel people with stiletto heels.
thalohalo 1 month ago
I have a question for christians.
If you're arguments for god are so strong, why do you so frequantly resort to irrelevant personal attacks for example "Faggot" "You're going to hell for being an atheist." "You are an ugly cross dresser" etc. Rather than making any legitament points? Deprecating Zinna isn't going to prove god's existance.
Way to do god proud.
Chayraz2 1 month ago
@Chayraz2 Well I can say that I'm Christian and I do not resort to such things. I agree with you that people doing such things have misplaced their better judgement! Whenever I debate I endeavour to be balanced and to merely show the understanding I have, I do not swear at people or condemn them. Even last week, when I had a person say that all Christian's should be persecuted in the fashion that China has persecuted Christians in the past, I did not swear or degrade them. (cont)
SDWLLB 1 month ago
@Chayraz2 (cont) Instead I merely pointed out what a poor and base thing that was to say, showed my reasoning for that and then said good day to them, and once they were less hostile and openly advocating persecution I would talk to them again. Nobody should begin ranting and raving ,condemning and swearing! And as a Christian I do not do this, I know loads of others who do not do such things either. I am all for spreading the love of God, to do that we must be loving!
SDWLLB 1 month ago
@Chayraz2 (cont 2) So I'd be happy to try and answer some of your questions and will not say such nasty things, just as I've expressed to Zinna that I'm sorry people feel they can do such things. Not all Christians are like this, in fact most aren't! I used to be atheist, I've sat on both sides of the fence, and there's small minorities in both sides that give the rest a bad name/ rep. Have a great day, God bless.
SDWLLB 1 month ago
You know what is more important.....stop electing presidents who believe in the same SHIT as these people. Fuck man, I thought people would care about their political system by now!
GravDiga 1 month ago
Talking shit is the eventual result of people who are afraid they might be wrong.
And it's funny all they do is just "curse" and say "bible","Jesus","god" every second.
They cling so desperately onto words that it makes you doubt their entire faith,because those with faith do not rely on words or books or names...they simply believe,and if someone does not agree with them-then they should not care.
Faith is not based on any factor but faith-They lack it,so they keep being on the defensive.
Wharwulif 1 month ago
Very very sad that they think it is their job to judge. They apparently have never read their own bible. I'm sorry these people act like this sir, I really am.
PaleoClipper 2 months ago 4
From a Christian on this vid: Comment 1: Horrible language (faggot) and couldn't understand half of it because of the appalling grammar. 2. I don't think calling Atheists names is a viable argument. Also he just says, "God did it" and expects you to just accept it when that's never gonna happen, you need an actual argument. 3. It's sad to judge. I for one think you look lovely. I won't go on and on, just thought you'd like to know there are many Christians who aren't like the ones in this vid.
GDOBSSOR 2 months ago
Did it ever occur that when these "Christians" speak and act like this they're Not behaving like Christians? Jesus was pretty clear - or so I thought - that not every self-proclaimed follower will enter Heaven. Hell will be populated by theives, murders, rapists, child-abusers, etc. and by Christians who thought saying "I believe" was a Get Out of Jail Free card. One has to obey the law, not just read it and nod...
VrilPirate 2 months ago
@VrilPirate Very true. Thankyou VrilPirate :)
GDOBSSOR 2 months ago
@ThePatriotsfan01 Well it was either christians or muslims, and quite frankly, even though the writing skills of these commenters are piss-poor, muslims are even worse at writing.t it.
rnalithe00 2 months ago
@CodyJamesWillard Did they ever know it in the first place?
rnalithe00 2 months ago
Nevermind all that though. CHRISTIANS are the ones being persecuted (because they no longer have the freedom to torture and kill whoever they want anymore).
rnalithe00 2 months ago
UH-oh! The link to the music is broken. "The page you are trying to access doesn't exist, sorry :( Think you've found a bug?" Gtreat music, though!
absentmindedprof 2 months ago
Um, wow. Zinnia. Some of those responses to you are a bit over the top. Please just take care.
gaymalewitch 2 months ago
Its Call Tough Love... For disobedience children... When your mom beat you, its for your own good to learn your mistakes...
MrBoomSonic 2 months ago
Oh, yay. Don't worry, I too have gotten death threats for my sexuality and atheism. On top of that, I've been told that I'm going to Hell for having purple hair. Where people get this insanity from, I have no idea.
LexiePersonForever 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
clearly some people have forgotten that men used to have long hair and wear make-up and finery all the time... this was considered normal and manly - especially the high heels!
King Loius XIV is a prime example of such a manly man :)
sacraficialangel7 2 months ago
Mark Twain once said while smoking his Peterson. "There has only been one Christian. He was crucified at an early age." Christian do not know love. In the newspaper not long ago and pastor found a kid squatting on some of his land in a tent. He had the kid arrested. Jesus would of brought him in and fed him. Christians no longer know love.
CodyJamesWillard 2 months ago
That's very Christian of you, do what I say or I'll hurt you.
BeyondBirthdayL 2 months ago
Awesome!!! Very accurate depiction of "christian love." Love everyone (except anyone different than you)
davidbehrns 2 months ago
typical atheist.You have no proof that everyone of those comments were from christians and you are an intolerant and disrespectful person. We are supposed to respect you people and be tolerant yet you sit behind you're camera and talk shit about us and are intolerant of us GTFO with that load of shit.
ThePatriotsfan01 2 months ago
This is what happens when they can't proof that their religion is true.
halolIlmao0 2 months ago 12
@halolIlmao0 Well the same goes for Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Jews, etc. They can't prove anything so what's so different with Christians?
SethNemah 1 month ago
@SethNemah or atheists or agnostics or any other variety. "What's different with Christians" - as a people group labelled "Christian" nothing. All men and women are Sinners. However, a follower of Christ, who may be a Christian, does not use abusive language like this.
faithbyloving 1 month ago
Ok sorry but one thing they didnt threaten you with the pits of hell they implied for a fact you will go to hell or whoever that was at
pokemonblackperson 2 months ago
OK 1st OF All I am Not Gonna Waste My Time Clarifying That God Exists because i know that in my mind he dose . But why Would Waste Your Time Looking Up On The Internet Making A whole YouTube Page About It . Respect Peoples Religion because your wasting your time bashing and hating on my God When There IS 50.00 more ?! Seriously It's a word called RESPECT .. Idc If you dont believe in my god it's still not an excuse for hatting on a world wide religion .
XxEpicTacossXx 2 months ago
@XxEpicTacossXx Dude he is an atheist they are offended by the very thought of christians.
ThePatriotsfan01 2 months ago
@XxEpicTacossXx Maybe Christians should stop hating on Atheism, "yes please respect my Christianity, but i can tell you to go to hell all i want you filthy atheist scum hahahahaha" If Christians can go on and try to tell people there is a God, why can't an Atheist go around telling people that there isnt a God. Jeez respect our belief that there is not God and quit hating!!!
nowknowthis 2 months ago
Wolffang200: Science changes when it realizes it's wrong, as TRUE knowledge does. Fake religions don't change, because they are limited and primitive mind control tools.
I'd MUCH rather trust this (CHANGING?!) science, thank you very much ;)
SmashtheCmachine 3 months ago
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extremeeXrement1 3 months ago
Is it just me or do all the religious conservative blowhards choose the dumbest screen names?
gricer1326 3 months ago
i try to tell xtians all the time, hey when you judge me for not believing your book you are doing gods work, and in that book it says only god judges, so i tell them THEY are going to the hell they believe in. god is a dick and kills indicriminantly, he would be pissed that someone else is trying to do his work. but since xtians do not actually read the bible they will never understand
hez1919 3 months ago
This is just sad :/
quantumechanick 3 months ago
I've been watching a lot of your videos and it seems you have a great amount of hatred for Christians, which I just don't understand. I know you may not agree with them for whatever reasons, but you just seem to be bashing on Christians. It seems as if you are trying to get people to not believe in Christ, but this is wrong because for some Christ is apart of their identity, and you are stripping them of part of their idenitity.
Adiamondzz11 3 months ago
@Adiamondzz11 If it is the case that you are trying to get people not to believe Christ I should say **
Adiamondzz11 3 months ago
"Sackreligious basterd" Lol'd too hard..
hurtmeloveme 4 months ago
In fairness, I think a few of these are imposters, motivated by gender issues rather than Christianity.
Also, it is true: you do worship the encyclopedia.
GlorifiedTruth 4 months ago
at 1:33 the person uses the correct "you're" then the incorrectly says "your"
BRin722 4 months ago