Are you saying US strategy is "Fuck the local population. As long as we achieve our objectives we are allowed to kill them as much as we like"?
Did they teach laws of war or anything about Geneva during your basic training? Because those should be the subjects before the first live fire exercise...
@Gekkibi oh we did now? cause the three tours I was over in Afghanistan I don't recall doing anything like that, ha where ae you getting this from? your making no sence
ok..I'm a U.S Marine and to be honest this looks like complete absolute shit. I mean just the design is horrible, the freakin round looks like a .22 compared to our's! and to all you people saying "FUCK AMERICA" and "GO RUSSIA"... that just shows how immature you are and how little you know, learn your fucking facts before you run your mouth! if we go to war with iran and Russia tags along we'll just see who will win;) dont forget we have Germany, UK, Israel, Australia, and shit load more. THIN
@916GR I believe theirs is 30mm, but the Mk.19 is 40mm. They make up with rate of fire, we just bring sheer firepower. It's kind of like comparing a massive carpet bombing campaign to a small nuke.
wow now I know why the pakistani army is taking a U turn in its purchase policy and going for russian and sino arms......maybe if america sold its weapons readily its economy wouldnt be going bust....
да фигня старая прицельная дальность только радует а так боеприпас фигня обычная отдача не слабая единственный плюс это то что можно стрелять держа в руках
почему мне не понятно мы всё должны брать у Американцев!!! у нас своего много хорошего!!! А форма эта убожество!! У меня папа военный в Чечне служит до сих пор это ужас!!!
Yes, this is what it says about the role of automatic grenade in Iraq .. it helps a lot. Russian design privoshodit all analogues in the world and dlnosti and rate of fire.
AGS-30 is intended for company-level fire support, along with PKMS and Metis-M, so it must be as light as possible for maneuverability. 3-man team could carry the gun and 120 rounds.
american MK 19 is very heavy weapon, weights five times more than AGS 30. American soldiers put 300 pound bags to make the gun more stable when firing.
@bombarderoazul MK19 is made in the 60's, this one in the 90's. Get your facts right, the Mk.19 is a very old weapon that has 42kg with lightweight tripod, the AGS 30 a "modern" weapon with 16kg. BUT the AGS 30 uses the less powerfull 30mm grenades, instead of the 40mm wich results in less weight, logical. Also the US uses the Mk47 today, wich has a fire control computer, computer programmed grenades and a eff. range against point targets of 1700m, while the AGS 30 has 900m of eff. range. rofl
@VpR81 AGS-30 has a mass of 16 kg in addition smart grenades that are equipped with special sensors. I do not think that the U.S. is so handy launcher equal power.
@redneck10ivan Therefore, the US launcher has almost double the effective range and more powerful grenades. Also the MK47 uses a laser range finder, a fire controll computer, computer programmed grenades and TV / Night vision optics as well as a complete computerized control unit. All things, the AGS30 does NOT have. It may be more heavy, but also more modern and more effective.... and 16kg is fucking useless, when the americans can kill you at double the range....
@VpR81 dude are you even not listening to what's in the transfer talk? At the AGM-30 are a range-finder and computer controlled all there and even more. at tritsadka use that exceed Western grenade 40mm. modified AGM-30 can be any all depends on the tactical tasks.
@VpR81 And how heavy the Mk 47 is? because the weight really is an issue for the Mk 19. If they could make a 40 mm grenade launcher that's at least 2x lighter, now that would an achievement.
@StiviGun1 Hi Stivigun! did you miss me :) The replacement is not issued to whole US Military yet. It is still on a test phase and already been used by Special Operations. Keep searching!
@quickzilver333 Well, the XM307 was not good enough. It used a smaller caliber round and it had a very low rate of fire. How is the new model handling in these areas. If it doesn't use 40 mm grenades, if it's not lighter and if it doesn't have at least the same rate of fire, then it's not good.
@StiviGun1 It's a grenade launcher and they are trying to make it light and accurate. Yes the rounds are smaller but it doesn't mean it's not capable. It fires multiple smart munitions also. You can't simply demand a 40 mm round from a granade launcher and asking for it to be light and accurate. We are limited only in technology maybe if they can use a much lighter and stonger material to design a grenade launcher that would be great. Then again the cost!
@quickzilver333 Yes, I can ask for a 40 mm grenade launcher that is also lighter. Of course I can. I'm sure that out of the numerous arms manufacturers in the US, there must be a least 1 that can fulfill this requirement. Nothing motivates people quite like competition.
As for this 25 mm launcher, give it a 1000 rpm rate of fire and then it would be good to go. But 25 rpm is just embarrassing. The basic capabilities are the most important in any weapons system.
@StiviGun1 Oh Stivigun! There are more to just making a grenade launcher that you like. Politics and other things are involve also. The reason why they use a smaller 25mm round is to minimies damage. Hell thats why they built the damn thing in the first place or else they would have just use the 40mm or call in for artillery. The advantage to this new system is to eliminate collateral damage by using smart munitions.
@quickzilver333 You can use smart munitions on a 40 mm launcher too... But the XM307 was cancelled BY THE ARMY, not by politicians, precisely because it had a very low rate of fire. Having the ability to use smart munitions is good, but the basic capabilities are the most important in a weapons system. For instance, a fighter plane needs to have long range, high speed, good maneuverability and high weapons payload. If you can achieve this, only after that, you can give it the ability to use
@quickzilver333 smart munitions. Without very high basic capabilities, it's almost useless. And that's exactly how the F-35 is. The only thing the F-35 has that's good are its avionics. That won't compensate for its lack of basic performance.
@StiviGun1 Now now Stivigun1!! Lets keep this topic the same please. Lets not jump from one thing to another. Lets keep it at the grenade launcher. Anyways, It's on a Test Phase. Who knows if the US Military has other companies designing a new grenade launcher for them.
The reason why they created smart munitions is to avoid unarmed cassualties. Heck! we can just drop a nuclear bomb and get it over with. When you talk smart munition you are talking small scale.
@quickzilver333 I'm not trying to divert the topic, I was just giving an analogue example so you can understand better.
Like I said, smart munitions can be used with any platform, that is the last capability a weapons system must be selected for. In this case the selection criteria should be weight, accuracy, low recoil, rate of fire. If you can achieve this, then you can go make it fire any ammunition you like. But the basic characteristics must come first.
@StiviGun1 True but like I said we are limited on affordable technology. Sure the US can make a light grenade launcher that can fire a 40mm smart munition. Then again how much will it cost?
@quickzilver333 And why are you limited on affordable technology? You have the largest military budget and you can't afford what Russia affords with a much smaller budget? The US economy can take such investments, it's just that there are many anti-military morons in Congress that always manage somehow to convince others to reject them. This has prevented the US military industry to develop at its full potential even from the early years of the Cold War.
@StiviGun1 I'm not even gonna go on politics. I'm not even sure if the US military has the biggest budget. I am sure though that the US military is not the largest Military. Anyway, like I said the weapons are on a Test Phase. We might see a different weapon in the future.
@quickzilver333 Well, unfortunately, in America, more than in any other country, politics are closely related to weapons procurement. This has had as a result the fact that most of the times, the US military didn't get the best weapons systems it could get.
As for the US military, it's not the largest, it's second after China's military, but with a 700 bil dollars budget, it does have the largest budget in the world. I don't know any other country that comes even close to this figure.
@StiviGun1 Thats the differrences between goverments US being democratic has a different way of looking into weapons than it's counterpart. Anyways, I don't wanna go further into politics in this topic. Who knows what new US weapons are coming out in the future.
@quickzilver333 The difference is not that the US government is democratic, the difference is the US government is full of anti-military morons and more than likely, Russian agents who's main goal is to sabotage America's military development. These agents use the anti-military feelings of many of the Congress members to sabotage America's most advanced weapons systems. Like it was the case with the F-22.
As for America's future weapons, I don't see a very bright future in this regard.
@StiviGun1 LOL! The US government is now compose of anti military hippies back in the 70's. I don't think the Russian agents has something to do with it. Heck even nowadays the American citizens themselves are anti military. Americans nowadays don't wanna see their money spent mostly on military especially in times of DEBT. As far as future weapons. It will always be there in the US military developement.
@quickzilver333 Trust me, there are also Russian agents in the US Congress. As for the US citizens money, it's not spent most on military. In fact, military spending accounts only 4.7% pf the GDP. The figure itself is high because the GDP is high. Of course, those who want to turn the American people against the military, don't give them such details, they only throw in that 700 bil$ bullshit, without saying what impact does that have on the economy. Which is almost insignificant, of course.
@quickzilver333 Yeah, well, I guess I said what I had to say about this topic. Bring me a 40 mm launcher that's lighter, has softer recoil, that's more accurate and has at least the same rate of fire and it will be good to go. The XM307, due to its ridiculously low rate of fire (only 250 rpm even though it used a smaller round) is not suited to replace the current Mk19.
@StiviGun1 They already have what you are asking for but it's not an automatic 40mm granade launcher. It's lighter and less recoil but not full auto. Like I said Stivigun1 we will see an auto version soon enough. Patience my friend.
@StiviGun1 It's the M32 and it's baby brother the MK14(Mark 14). It fires a 40mm round, light, portable, fires smart munition rounds and less recoil. Just the way you like my firend. It's holds 6 rounds Semi-auto. :)
@quickzilver333 Yeah, I know about that launcher. It's pretty cool. It was also presented in that Future Weapons show with that bald guy. But that is something else. The US army needs an automatic 40 mm grenade launcher. But from what I know, the M32 was developed by S Africa, not by US. Why is US adopting something from S Africa?
@StiviGun1 Where have you been in the past decades Stivigun1? US Military have been using weapons design and develope by different countries. There is nothing wrong with that because they are US Allies. WWI and WWII alone US military use foreign weapons.
@StiviGun1 the US has the MK 19 Automatic Granade Launcher and that fires a 40mm Granade we just cant use it in iraq or afghanistan because it gauses too much collateral damage
@StiviGun1 we use the .50cal M2 it does the work minus the collateral damage, you even seen what a .50cal can do to a solid contreact pillar thats over 5ft thick or seen an insurgent hit with the .50cal the pillar would be turned to dust and a person would be vaporized
@baronww1 Well, about this. I believe the US army needs a better .50 caliber machine gun. The M2 is just too old and has a pretty low rate of fire. A new, more modern one is needed. I would say that a Gatling .50 caliber machine gun would also be needed. Imagine a .50 caliber machine gun firing 3000 rpm. I think you can imagine since you've seen what damage the M2, that has 600 rpm rate of fire can do.
@StiviGun1 actually the M2 is the best that is out there. I dont think you have ever fired any good weapon systems except for the shitty Soviet stuff which are knock off of good weapons and cant do well in real combat when most people hear the M2 they stay away because they know what would happen to them
@baronww1 I don't know about how people would stay away when they hear about the M2. The insurgents from Iraq and Afghanistan certainly weren't impressed by it. But you're wrong about the soviet/Russian weapons. It's a common trait to underestimate them, which is not at all healthy, as Reagan concluded when he was shown a detailed report on the soviet space program. But regarding, machineguns, the Kord heavy machinegun is much better than the M2. It's more accurate, lighter, higher rate of fire.
@StiviGun1 Soviet or Russian made weapons are pieces of shit, i know that first had, if you want a well made weapon get German made they are 100 times better then any other country in the world
@baronww1 It's clear that you actually don't have any experience with any soviet or Russian made weapons system, otherwise, you wouldn't talk like that. All US presidents came into a shock when they were revealed the real extent to which the soviet weapons industry was developed. In fact, they were so afraid, that many of them, (mostly democrats) were even afraid to let the US military industry develop weapons at its full capacity because they were afraid that might trigger a war,
@quickzilver333 for America's new military programs, maybe they'll always be there, but right now, they're not developing what they should develop. For instance, with Russia's and China's development of new ICBMs, replacing the Minuteman III should be a priority. Even the Trident II should be replaced so America could have an analogue to the new Russian Bulava.
@StiviGun1 the Soviet's never came up with their own stuff it was all designs stolen from the German's. The Soviets are too stupid to come up with their own stuff because they where kissing and sucking Stalin's ass and dick. The German's where the first to come up with working ICBM weapon materal and working jet fighter's and other things that far surpassed any other country in the world even today, they still exceed the world in technology.
@baronww1 Yes, the Germans invented the ballistic missile and they even had some designs for ICBMs. But you forget that US also stole the technology it has in missiles from the Germans. So I guess they're not smarter than the soviets. But the truth is the soviets were very capable. They developed much more powerful ICBMs and missiles in general. Their space program was very advanced as well. Underestimating them like that is a very big mistake. They have a lot of very good mathematicians and
@StiviGun1 well who hasnt stole from the German's every country in the world stole idea's from the German's for the longest time the Soviets where using bi-planes against steel planes which shows how far behind they are and how stupid the government was.
@baronww1 Yes without the nazi we would not have been able to go to the moon and back so early, so shouldnt we have a nazi day thanking them for all the stuff we took? xD
@arthinugami i dont like the Nazi's it was the German people that did well in the products they made. Anyways most of the Nazi power was held in Austria which most do not know about
@baronww1 True, it is a shame that most countrys try to make something that's not theirs there own, and forget where all these ideas came from, space flight, etc, that we use to day. Honestly it is disgraceful.
@arthinugami well most people in the world are ignorant and do not think that 99.9% of everything we use such as car's, computer's, jet's, rocket's, sysnthtic oil, weapon's, etc... are from German basis
@baronww1 Yeah, the Germans were and still are a very innovative and resourceful people. But they have a problem with rasism, hate towards other nations and countries, xenophobia and other things like this. Why do you think they're not allowed to develop military power anymore?
@StiviGun1 your 100% wrong about them being xenophobic. Most of my family is German and I have met some of my family that is still there and they are 100% open to other people. I dont know where you get your facts unless your just a fucking commie.
@baronww1 I am not a "fucking commie"... And I never said that ALL German people are xenophobic. But Germany does have a problem with this. The recent facts, with those newo-nazis that killed 9 people jusy because they were strangers proves this.
@StiviGun1 your an idiot Neo-Nazi's are not German's 99% of their power is held in Austria. Those Neo-Nazi's are not true German's they are the plague so they can't be called German or people at best, so get your facts alittle more inline before you try to say that my people are Nazi's
@StiviGun1 look at how your posting these comments its very easy to see that your a racist ass hole who hate's German's just watch how you post your comment's because it will be your undoing
@baronww1 A German is accusing me of being racist? Now that's an IRONY... If I showed you some of the things your compatriots have told me about my people and my country, you'd delete this stupid comment of yours... And what's with this "watch how you post your comment's because it will be your undoing statement? My "undoing"...? Undoing of what...?
@baronww1 "showing that your stupid"... Before calling somebody stupid, at least learn how to spell correctly... And no, I'm not an ignorant, you are.
@baronww1 Yeah, many countries took technology from the Germans, but in specially the US and USSR. But when exactly did the soviets use biplanes against steel planes? During WW2? They have come a long way since then. And remember that during the Cold War, they were far ahead the US in titanium welding techniques, for instance. And in other industrial aspects as well. But the truth is, for some reason, the US industry was not allowed to develop at its full potential.
@StiviGun1 the Soviets used Biplane during the first half of World War 2 it's in the facts because the Soviets where behind on tech because they where afraid of not sucking Stalin's dick
@baronww1 Yes, they were inferior in first half or WW2. But after that, as the war was unfolding and their defense industry started to grow, they built more and more capable weapons systems. They had some of the finest fighter planes by the end of the war.
@AWtify i dont know where you got your crackhead answer which is 99.9% wrong because Bi-planes are wood not metal so that means it could not manuver life metal planes and Bi-planes did not have the proper fire power to take down metal planes
@baronww1 the germans used old-techs tanks, MLRS during the first half of World War 2 it's in the facts because the Germans where behind on tech because they where afraid of not sucking Gitler's dick
@baronww1 and engineers. They're people that have an affinity for abstract sciences. Many of their weapons systems, like ballistic missile systems and SAMs were never matched by the US. This, of course, was in part because of that fear that I've mentioned. But nevertheless, the soviets were very capable. And Russia inherited a lot from them. Underestimating them is the dumbest thing to do.
How do the Russians do it?? Even their new stuff looks old and left over from the Cold War. And this Video looks like it was shot in the 60's with that pressed suit wearing dude.
@seniorortega Dude when you take off all futuristic designe of western weapons you will get shit ,and i cant say Russian weapons is ugly,for me its beutyful,real deadly practical and elegant masterpice
THERE'S NO EARTHLY REASON BLACK PEOPLE SHOULD BE BREEDING WITH PEOPLE WITHOUT AFFIRMATIVE ACTION UNLESS THEY'RE USING IT AS SPRINGBOARD TO INFILTRATE, SPY, AND RAPE US WHILE USING HIDDEN LEVERAGE TO CENSOR US AND RAPE US ALIVE FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES LIKE HUMAN CATTLE.
These pigs don't even have ANY REAL SCIENTISTs other than people with the title who stand around and just take credit for the work done by those who have the capacity to think and actually pioneer.
We Americans invented it first fucken copycat russians never able to make their own always copying like kalashkinov who copied the german machine gun and called it ak47..fucken copycat!
@thebadguy2k6 :/ you are kidda stupid mate.accualy you are very stupid first off you called the german assault rifle a machine gun. Second of all how can coping an idea be bad I mean the ak is not alot like the german rifle its the same idea but a different weapon same with this granade launcher. And finaly idiot by your thinking americans are copy cats aswell make tanks no?? and yet they havent invented tanks.
@MultiSakon The guy you were replying to was talking about russians "copying" the grenade launcher which is alot like the Mk19. In other words, Russians copying Americans. Then he went on to compare it to the russians AK being copied from the German STG-44, which is true. We (America), already had automatic rifles like the BAR (Browning Automatic Rifle). I know you have the IQ of a chicken, but try to follow the conversation.
@MultiSakon Yes I am! I’m a secret undercover KGB agent testing your loyalty. You have done well disseminating propaganda to the filthy capitalist scum. Your patriotism deserves high marks, however, your logical reasoning and persuasion skills are poor. Our dear leader has deemed you unfit for further propaganda operations and will seize half of your assets. An agent will be by momentarily to escort you to a local "re-education" camp where you will be assessed for further use to the state.
@quiznosful which is why they got into space first, because they copied us right? And by the way, every nation in the world looked at the technology from Germany and went "Hmmmmm... I bet we can use this" not just the Russians.
@LupineFear He was talking about the automatic grenade launcher, not the space rocket (russian ICBM with Crew capsule instead of nuclear war heads). But uhhh, Russia's space rockets were based of the German V2's.....so......yeah.
@quiznosful Most of the people on here are russian fan boy's. They believe anything with a russian name tag must be the best....even though most russian equipment is cheap garbage. So, when they see a russian automatic grenade launcher, they think it's a technological revolution, even though we invented the Mk-19 30 years ago. Anyway, I'm sure this russian grenade launcher was invented in the 1980's and is just now being produced.
@Howie262 Say that back in 1944 and you would have been instantly executed on the spot by which ever side heard you say such an idiotic thing. However, the world has changed since then.......and not for the better. Your comment gives testiment to that fact.
@nanashiinomiko the best in the world with 30 year old tech. Seriously, if these are Russia's "advanced" infantry weapons, then I don't think the U.S. or NATO has anything to worry about. When Russia can make something that competes with the XM-25 or XM-307......then we can debate about who is best. Personally, I wish Russia would up it's game and actually make something decent, I'm tired of my tax dollars being spent on R&D. I'd rather the U.S. just steal and copy new tech Russia/China.
@Cnupoc There is a long bloody trail of communist/radical corpses stretching from the shores of Normandy to the South Pacific Islands that can give full account to the "effectiveness" of U.S. weapons.....rifles included. But stay tuned.....many more to come.
@Cnupoc I was thinking more like Afghanistan. You know, the grave yard of the Soviet Union. I spary painted my name on one of your mig's in 2003. Got a picture of it somewhere too.
@thebadguy2k6 lol graveyard my ass xD USSR controlled 70% of the territory of afghanistan and stormed the famous palace stronghold which you can only dream of in Afghanistan. Your NATO pussies cant even get safely from the city center to the airport..
@Cnupoc HAHAHA! Lie to yourself, but don't lie to me, I've personaly seen all your migs and tanks scattered like debree all over the place. I had no problem getting from Kabul to Baghram Air Base. But then, we weren't trying to kill eveybody. Anyway, give me a few days, I'll put together a slideshow of pictures from Afghanistan. I'll show you your countries graveyard.
@Gekkibi hey what ever works!
916GR 1 week ago
@916GR
Are you saying US strategy is "Fuck the local population. As long as we achieve our objectives we are allowed to kill them as much as we like"?
Did they teach laws of war or anything about Geneva during your basic training? Because those should be the subjects before the first live fire exercise...
Gekkibi 1 week ago
@Gekkibi oh we did now? cause the three tours I was over in Afghanistan I don't recall doing anything like that, ha where ae you getting this from? your making no sence
916GR 1 week ago
@916GR
From the news. And do you deny that US forces used WP in Fallujah? Yes, yes... For illumination. What next? A nuclear explosion to create EMP?
Gekkibi 1 week ago
canada beat all
floramaster1 1 week ago
ok..I'm a U.S Marine and to be honest this looks like complete absolute shit. I mean just the design is horrible, the freakin round looks like a .22 compared to our's! and to all you people saying "FUCK AMERICA" and "GO RUSSIA"... that just shows how immature you are and how little you know, learn your fucking facts before you run your mouth! if we go to war with iran and Russia tags along we'll just see who will win;) dont forget we have Germany, UK, Israel, Australia, and shit load more. THIN
916GR 1 week ago
@916GR I believe theirs is 30mm, but the Mk.19 is 40mm. They make up with rate of fire, we just bring sheer firepower. It's kind of like comparing a massive carpet bombing campaign to a small nuke.
Anonymous52550 1 week ago
@916GR
"...the freakin round looks like a .22 compared to our's!"
Russians use 30mm grenades instead of 40mm. So what..? Abrams cannon is .22 because T-series MBT's use 125mm cannon. derp derp. Your logic.
"...learn your fucking facts..."
I have learned them. Americunts us WP in populated areas. Americunts rape, pillage and ruin the lives of innocent civilians. List goes on...
"and to all you people saying "FUCK AMERICA" and "GO RUSSIA"..."
Fuck America, go Russia. And I'm not Russian...
Gekkibi 1 week ago
wow now I know why the pakistani army is taking a U turn in its purchase policy and going for russian and sino arms......maybe if america sold its weapons readily its economy wouldnt be going bust....
brightsghost 1 week ago
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слава Россия, Мексика, Чили, Норвегия, Германия и Дания!!!!!
Yeah! Russia power
neophytetroll 1 month ago
Fuck America! Long live the Soviet Uni... oh... wait, never mind lol. ;)
devinhallsworth 1 month ago 7
Бурю в пустыне выиграли благодаря гранатометам? Бред.
rakoth85 1 month ago
im an american and i wish that our armed forces used an ak variant. the m16 sucks just as much as our battle tactics.
Mint3Mn 1 month ago
@Mint3Mn I agree; I always wanted to fire one of those weapons one day.
neophytetroll 1 month ago
@Mint3Mn but you have to give the AR platform the credit of extremely low recoil and ergonomic comfort.
brightsghost 1 week ago
cool bro. russian guns all the way
Rdhot123 1 month ago
Lol ratcheted window
GUNSFOREVER1 1 month ago
fuckin shit hahha
Raycogb 1 month ago
FUCK AMERICA!!! LONG LIVE RUSSIA!!!
VladimirSusicJNA 1 month ago
Fuck you USA
Tabsinlab 1 month ago
yeah fuck america!
dillydean 2 months ago
Вообще русские гранатомёты одни из лучших в мире.
Spartak828282 2 months ago 12
да фигня старая прицельная дальность только радует а так боеприпас фигня обычная отдача не слабая единственный плюс это то что можно стрелять держа в руках
blokobstrel 2 months ago
@blokobstrel Да нет агс-30 как рас таки новинка, в отличие от агс -17
ThePLOHISH 2 months ago
почему мне не понятно мы всё должны брать у Американцев!!! у нас своего много хорошего!!! А форма эта убожество!! У меня папа военный в Чечне служит до сих пор это ужас!!!
MrMalboro97 2 months ago
So err... It's a bit like a mobile artillery device?
CSSZombieVideos 2 months ago
@CSSZombieVideos mobile automatic grenade launcher
mareslive 2 months ago
@CSSZombieVideos Yes, it is mobile grenade launcher. It weight only 16 Kg but shooting at 2700 meters.
vikhad 2 months ago
yeah aav have them too nothing new here.
starknight97 2 months ago
Aguante los Rusos Muerte a E.E.U.U !!
995Daviss 3 months ago
oh, poop
mcpillboy 3 months ago
that looks like shit
helladatguy 3 months ago
LONG LIVE THE PEOPLE'S REVOLUTION!!!
1Mafioso4 3 months ago
Yes, this is what it says about the role of automatic grenade in Iraq .. it helps a lot. Russian design privoshodit all analogues in the world and dlnosti and rate of fire.
66640999 3 months ago
Even though i could not understand what they were saying it was pretty cool i think it would do a good job on iraq bad guys
norwalkzozo 3 months ago
in every Russian happy meal...
xboxplaya124 4 months ago
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what the hell is he saying
dillon12342 4 months ago
You'd be pretty fucked by any grenade that hit you....
nuclearthreat545 4 months ago
Ну да, что такое 16 килограмм?
solomon110 4 months ago
bruno march, good luck !!!
chrisxiix 4 months ago
plz don't sell it too china.... JK
CNX625 5 months ago
Strelok haha...
Akshole 6 months ago
AGS-30 is intended for company-level fire support, along with PKMS and Metis-M, so it must be as light as possible for maneuverability. 3-man team could carry the gun and 120 rounds.
kt38138 6 months ago
i definitely want one
Panz82 6 months ago
What is the caliber of this launcher?
StiviGun1 6 months ago
@StiviGun1 30 mm
Anteus007 5 months ago
american MK 19 is very heavy weapon, weights five times more than AGS 30. American soldiers put 300 pound bags to make the gun more stable when firing.
bombarderoazul 7 months ago
@bombarderoazul MK19 is made in the 60's, this one in the 90's. Get your facts right, the Mk.19 is a very old weapon that has 42kg with lightweight tripod, the AGS 30 a "modern" weapon with 16kg. BUT the AGS 30 uses the less powerfull 30mm grenades, instead of the 40mm wich results in less weight, logical. Also the US uses the Mk47 today, wich has a fire control computer, computer programmed grenades and a eff. range against point targets of 1700m, while the AGS 30 has 900m of eff. range. rofl
VpR81 5 months ago
@VpR81 AGS-30 has a mass of 16 kg in addition smart grenades that are equipped with special sensors. I do not think that the U.S. is so handy launcher equal power.
redneck10ivan 5 months ago
@redneck10ivan Therefore, the US launcher has almost double the effective range and more powerful grenades. Also the MK47 uses a laser range finder, a fire controll computer, computer programmed grenades and TV / Night vision optics as well as a complete computerized control unit. All things, the AGS30 does NOT have. It may be more heavy, but also more modern and more effective.... and 16kg is fucking useless, when the americans can kill you at double the range....
VpR81 5 months ago
@VpR81 dude are you even not listening to what's in the transfer talk? At the AGM-30 are a range-finder and computer controlled all there and even more. at tritsadka use that exceed Western grenade 40mm. modified AGM-30 can be any all depends on the tactical tasks.
redneck10ivan 5 months ago
@VpR81 forgot to add
"Americans can kiss dick"
redneck10ivan 5 months ago
@VpR81 Actualy AGS-30 has a range of 1,700 m/2,700 m (special grenades).
Anteus007 5 months ago
@VpR81 And how heavy the Mk 47 is? because the weight really is an issue for the Mk 19. If they could make a 40 mm grenade launcher that's at least 2x lighter, now that would an achievement.
StiviGun1 5 months ago
@StiviGun1 They already have a replacement for MK19 with half it's weight and carries a variety of ammunitions.
quickzilver333 4 months ago
@quickzilver333 What replacement is that?
StiviGun1 4 months ago
@StiviGun1 Hi Stivigun! did you miss me :) The replacement is not issued to whole US Military yet. It is still on a test phase and already been used by Special Operations. Keep searching!
quickzilver333 4 months ago
@quickzilver333 OK, but what is its designation?
StiviGun1 4 months ago
@StiviGun1 It's design came from the XM307 and it weighs less.
quickzilver333 4 months ago
@quickzilver333 Well, the XM307 was not good enough. It used a smaller caliber round and it had a very low rate of fire. How is the new model handling in these areas. If it doesn't use 40 mm grenades, if it's not lighter and if it doesn't have at least the same rate of fire, then it's not good.
StiviGun1 4 months ago
@StiviGun1 It's a grenade launcher and they are trying to make it light and accurate. Yes the rounds are smaller but it doesn't mean it's not capable. It fires multiple smart munitions also. You can't simply demand a 40 mm round from a granade launcher and asking for it to be light and accurate. We are limited only in technology maybe if they can use a much lighter and stonger material to design a grenade launcher that would be great. Then again the cost!
quickzilver333 4 months ago
@quickzilver333 Yes, I can ask for a 40 mm grenade launcher that is also lighter. Of course I can. I'm sure that out of the numerous arms manufacturers in the US, there must be a least 1 that can fulfill this requirement. Nothing motivates people quite like competition.
As for this 25 mm launcher, give it a 1000 rpm rate of fire and then it would be good to go. But 25 rpm is just embarrassing. The basic capabilities are the most important in any weapons system.
StiviGun1 4 months ago
@StiviGun1 Oh Stivigun! There are more to just making a grenade launcher that you like. Politics and other things are involve also. The reason why they use a smaller 25mm round is to minimies damage. Hell thats why they built the damn thing in the first place or else they would have just use the 40mm or call in for artillery. The advantage to this new system is to eliminate collateral damage by using smart munitions.
quickzilver333 4 months ago
@quickzilver333 You can use smart munitions on a 40 mm launcher too... But the XM307 was cancelled BY THE ARMY, not by politicians, precisely because it had a very low rate of fire. Having the ability to use smart munitions is good, but the basic capabilities are the most important in a weapons system. For instance, a fighter plane needs to have long range, high speed, good maneuverability and high weapons payload. If you can achieve this, only after that, you can give it the ability to use
StiviGun1 4 months ago
@quickzilver333 smart munitions. Without very high basic capabilities, it's almost useless. And that's exactly how the F-35 is. The only thing the F-35 has that's good are its avionics. That won't compensate for its lack of basic performance.
StiviGun1 4 months ago
@StiviGun1 Now now Stivigun1!! Lets keep this topic the same please. Lets not jump from one thing to another. Lets keep it at the grenade launcher. Anyways, It's on a Test Phase. Who knows if the US Military has other companies designing a new grenade launcher for them.
The reason why they created smart munitions is to avoid unarmed cassualties. Heck! we can just drop a nuclear bomb and get it over with. When you talk smart munition you are talking small scale.
quickzilver333 4 months ago
@quickzilver333 I'm not trying to divert the topic, I was just giving an analogue example so you can understand better.
Like I said, smart munitions can be used with any platform, that is the last capability a weapons system must be selected for. In this case the selection criteria should be weight, accuracy, low recoil, rate of fire. If you can achieve this, then you can go make it fire any ammunition you like. But the basic characteristics must come first.
StiviGun1 4 months ago
@StiviGun1 True but like I said we are limited on affordable technology. Sure the US can make a light grenade launcher that can fire a 40mm smart munition. Then again how much will it cost?
quickzilver333 4 months ago
@quickzilver333 And why are you limited on affordable technology? You have the largest military budget and you can't afford what Russia affords with a much smaller budget? The US economy can take such investments, it's just that there are many anti-military morons in Congress that always manage somehow to convince others to reject them. This has prevented the US military industry to develop at its full potential even from the early years of the Cold War.
StiviGun1 4 months ago
@StiviGun1 I'm not even gonna go on politics. I'm not even sure if the US military has the biggest budget. I am sure though that the US military is not the largest Military. Anyway, like I said the weapons are on a Test Phase. We might see a different weapon in the future.
quickzilver333 4 months ago
@quickzilver333 Well, unfortunately, in America, more than in any other country, politics are closely related to weapons procurement. This has had as a result the fact that most of the times, the US military didn't get the best weapons systems it could get.
As for the US military, it's not the largest, it's second after China's military, but with a 700 bil dollars budget, it does have the largest budget in the world. I don't know any other country that comes even close to this figure.
StiviGun1 4 months ago
@StiviGun1 Thats the differrences between goverments US being democratic has a different way of looking into weapons than it's counterpart. Anyways, I don't wanna go further into politics in this topic. Who knows what new US weapons are coming out in the future.
quickzilver333 4 months ago
@quickzilver333 The difference is not that the US government is democratic, the difference is the US government is full of anti-military morons and more than likely, Russian agents who's main goal is to sabotage America's military development. These agents use the anti-military feelings of many of the Congress members to sabotage America's most advanced weapons systems. Like it was the case with the F-22.
As for America's future weapons, I don't see a very bright future in this regard.
StiviGun1 4 months ago
@StiviGun1 LOL! The US government is now compose of anti military hippies back in the 70's. I don't think the Russian agents has something to do with it. Heck even nowadays the American citizens themselves are anti military. Americans nowadays don't wanna see their money spent mostly on military especially in times of DEBT. As far as future weapons. It will always be there in the US military developement.
quickzilver333 4 months ago
@quickzilver333 Trust me, there are also Russian agents in the US Congress. As for the US citizens money, it's not spent most on military. In fact, military spending accounts only 4.7% pf the GDP. The figure itself is high because the GDP is high. Of course, those who want to turn the American people against the military, don't give them such details, they only throw in that 700 bil$ bullshit, without saying what impact does that have on the economy. Which is almost insignificant, of course.
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StiviGun1 4 months ago
@StiviGun1 LOL! whatever makes you happy Stivigun1. We are getting way off topic here.
quickzilver333 4 months ago
@quickzilver333 It doesn't make me happy... I'm just telling things as they are.
StiviGun1 4 months ago
@StiviGun1 ok! but we are getting way off topic here.
quickzilver333 4 months ago
@quickzilver333 Yeah, well, I guess I said what I had to say about this topic. Bring me a 40 mm launcher that's lighter, has softer recoil, that's more accurate and has at least the same rate of fire and it will be good to go. The XM307, due to its ridiculously low rate of fire (only 250 rpm even though it used a smaller round) is not suited to replace the current Mk19.
StiviGun1 4 months ago
@StiviGun1 They already have what you are asking for but it's not an automatic 40mm granade launcher. It's lighter and less recoil but not full auto. Like I said Stivigun1 we will see an auto version soon enough. Patience my friend.
quickzilver333 4 months ago
@quickzilver333 OK, what is that system that you're talking about? What can you tell me about it?
StiviGun1 4 months ago
@StiviGun1 It's the M32 and it's baby brother the MK14(Mark 14). It fires a 40mm round, light, portable, fires smart munition rounds and less recoil. Just the way you like my firend. It's holds 6 rounds Semi-auto. :)
Special Operation Forces are using it already.
quickzilver333 4 months ago
@quickzilver333 Yeah, I know about that launcher. It's pretty cool. It was also presented in that Future Weapons show with that bald guy. But that is something else. The US army needs an automatic 40 mm grenade launcher. But from what I know, the M32 was developed by S Africa, not by US. Why is US adopting something from S Africa?
StiviGun1 4 months ago
@StiviGun1 Where have you been in the past decades Stivigun1? US Military have been using weapons design and develope by different countries. There is nothing wrong with that because they are US Allies. WWI and WWII alone US military use foreign weapons.
quickzilver333 4 months ago
@StiviGun1 the US has the MK 19 Automatic Granade Launcher and that fires a 40mm Granade we just cant use it in iraq or afghanistan because it gauses too much collateral damage
baronww1 3 months ago
@baronww1 So what do you use then in Iraq and Afghanistan?
StiviGun1 3 months ago
@StiviGun1 we use the .50cal M2 it does the work minus the collateral damage, you even seen what a .50cal can do to a solid contreact pillar thats over 5ft thick or seen an insurgent hit with the .50cal the pillar would be turned to dust and a person would be vaporized
baronww1 3 months ago
@baronww1 Well, about this. I believe the US army needs a better .50 caliber machine gun. The M2 is just too old and has a pretty low rate of fire. A new, more modern one is needed. I would say that a Gatling .50 caliber machine gun would also be needed. Imagine a .50 caliber machine gun firing 3000 rpm. I think you can imagine since you've seen what damage the M2, that has 600 rpm rate of fire can do.
StiviGun1 3 months ago
@StiviGun1 actually the M2 is the best that is out there. I dont think you have ever fired any good weapon systems except for the shitty Soviet stuff which are knock off of good weapons and cant do well in real combat when most people hear the M2 they stay away because they know what would happen to them
baronww1 3 months ago
@baronww1 I don't know about how people would stay away when they hear about the M2. The insurgents from Iraq and Afghanistan certainly weren't impressed by it. But you're wrong about the soviet/Russian weapons. It's a common trait to underestimate them, which is not at all healthy, as Reagan concluded when he was shown a detailed report on the soviet space program. But regarding, machineguns, the Kord heavy machinegun is much better than the M2. It's more accurate, lighter, higher rate of fire.
StiviGun1 3 months ago
@StiviGun1 Soviet or Russian made weapons are pieces of shit, i know that first had, if you want a well made weapon get German made they are 100 times better then any other country in the world
baronww1 3 months ago
@baronww1 It's clear that you actually don't have any experience with any soviet or Russian made weapons system, otherwise, you wouldn't talk like that. All US presidents came into a shock when they were revealed the real extent to which the soviet weapons industry was developed. In fact, they were so afraid, that many of them, (mostly democrats) were even afraid to let the US military industry develop weapons at its full capacity because they were afraid that might trigger a war,
StiviGun1 3 months ago
@quickzilver333 for America's new military programs, maybe they'll always be there, but right now, they're not developing what they should develop. For instance, with Russia's and China's development of new ICBMs, replacing the Minuteman III should be a priority. Even the Trident II should be replaced so America could have an analogue to the new Russian Bulava.
StiviGun1 4 months ago
@StiviGun1 the Soviet's never came up with their own stuff it was all designs stolen from the German's. The Soviets are too stupid to come up with their own stuff because they where kissing and sucking Stalin's ass and dick. The German's where the first to come up with working ICBM weapon materal and working jet fighter's and other things that far surpassed any other country in the world even today, they still exceed the world in technology.
baronww1 3 months ago
@baronww1 Yes, the Germans invented the ballistic missile and they even had some designs for ICBMs. But you forget that US also stole the technology it has in missiles from the Germans. So I guess they're not smarter than the soviets. But the truth is the soviets were very capable. They developed much more powerful ICBMs and missiles in general. Their space program was very advanced as well. Underestimating them like that is a very big mistake. They have a lot of very good mathematicians and
StiviGun1 3 months ago
@StiviGun1 well who hasnt stole from the German's every country in the world stole idea's from the German's for the longest time the Soviets where using bi-planes against steel planes which shows how far behind they are and how stupid the government was.
baronww1 3 months ago
@baronww1 Yes without the nazi we would not have been able to go to the moon and back so early, so shouldnt we have a nazi day thanking them for all the stuff we took? xD
arthinugami 3 months ago
@arthinugami i dont like the Nazi's it was the German people that did well in the products they made. Anyways most of the Nazi power was held in Austria which most do not know about
baronww1 3 months ago
@baronww1 True, it is a shame that most countrys try to make something that's not theirs there own, and forget where all these ideas came from, space flight, etc, that we use to day. Honestly it is disgraceful.
arthinugami 3 months ago
@arthinugami well most people in the world are ignorant and do not think that 99.9% of everything we use such as car's, computer's, jet's, rocket's, sysnthtic oil, weapon's, etc... are from German basis
baronww1 3 months ago
@baronww1 Yeah, the Germans were and still are a very innovative and resourceful people. But they have a problem with rasism, hate towards other nations and countries, xenophobia and other things like this. Why do you think they're not allowed to develop military power anymore?
StiviGun1 3 months ago
@StiviGun1 your 100% wrong about them being xenophobic. Most of my family is German and I have met some of my family that is still there and they are 100% open to other people. I dont know where you get your facts unless your just a fucking commie.
baronww1 3 months ago
@baronww1 I am not a "fucking commie"... And I never said that ALL German people are xenophobic. But Germany does have a problem with this. The recent facts, with those newo-nazis that killed 9 people jusy because they were strangers proves this.
StiviGun1 3 months ago
@StiviGun1 your an idiot Neo-Nazi's are not German's 99% of their power is held in Austria. Those Neo-Nazi's are not true German's they are the plague so they can't be called German or people at best, so get your facts alittle more inline before you try to say that my people are Nazi's
baronww1 3 months ago
@baronww1 I never said they're Nazis, I said Germany has a problem with this...
StiviGun1 3 months ago
@StiviGun1 look at how your posting these comments its very easy to see that your a racist ass hole who hate's German's just watch how you post your comment's because it will be your undoing
baronww1 3 months ago
@baronww1 A German is accusing me of being racist? Now that's an IRONY... If I showed you some of the things your compatriots have told me about my people and my country, you'd delete this stupid comment of yours... And what's with this "watch how you post your comment's because it will be your undoing statement? My "undoing"...? Undoing of what...?
StiviGun1 3 months ago
@StiviGun1 showing that your stupid and would also be the end of your ignorance and your ignorant friends inturpate it how you wish
baronww1 3 months ago
@baronww1 "showing that your stupid"... Before calling somebody stupid, at least learn how to spell correctly... And no, I'm not an ignorant, you are.
StiviGun1 3 months ago
@arthinugami Well, go tell that to your goverment. But I have the feling that their reaction wonn't be a good one... :))
StiviGun1 3 months ago
@baronww1 Yeah, many countries took technology from the Germans, but in specially the US and USSR. But when exactly did the soviets use biplanes against steel planes? During WW2? They have come a long way since then. And remember that during the Cold War, they were far ahead the US in titanium welding techniques, for instance. And in other industrial aspects as well. But the truth is, for some reason, the US industry was not allowed to develop at its full potential.
StiviGun1 3 months ago
@StiviGun1 the Soviets used Biplane during the first half of World War 2 it's in the facts because the Soviets where behind on tech because they where afraid of not sucking Stalin's dick
baronww1 3 months ago
@baronww1 Yes, they were inferior in first half or WW2. But after that, as the war was unfolding and their defense industry started to grow, they built more and more capable weapons systems. They had some of the finest fighter planes by the end of the war.
StiviGun1 3 months ago
@baronww1 Soviets on biplanes defeated germans on the metallic planes. :D
AWtify 3 months ago
@AWtify i dont know where you got your crackhead answer which is 99.9% wrong because Bi-planes are wood not metal so that means it could not manuver life metal planes and Bi-planes did not have the proper fire power to take down metal planes
baronww1 3 months ago
@baronww1 :D... I compile my answer from two premises:
1. your post about what the Soviets used Biplane during the 1st half of WW2
2. result WW2 (The Soviets seized Berlin).
If my answer is 99.9% wrong, then one of these statements is false on 99.9%. xD
AWtify 3 months ago
@AWtify Bi-plane would have been destroyed.
Amish234 3 months ago
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@baronww1 the germans used old-techs tanks, MLRS during the first half of World War 2 it's in the facts because the Germans where behind on tech because they where afraid of not sucking Gitler's dick
AWtify 3 months ago
@baronww1 and engineers. They're people that have an affinity for abstract sciences. Many of their weapons systems, like ballistic missile systems and SAMs were never matched by the US. This, of course, was in part because of that fear that I've mentioned. But nevertheless, the soviets were very capable. And Russia inherited a lot from them. Underestimating them is the dumbest thing to do.
StiviGun1 3 months ago
This Weapon is the right thing for Camping Amerikan ^^
EdePete89 7 months ago
it's not new :D
stalker9500 7 months ago
Long live Mother Russia !!
zero00tolerance 7 months ago
@warfighter285 Indeed. Yet, the american automatic nade launcher is hsown of "future weapons", so why not...
Sagramorbald 7 months ago
@warfighter285 i agreed
lordbryson 7 months ago
at 0:12 shoots 0:14 aims shit we missed XD
thunderbolt997 7 months ago
@thunderbolt997 we miss your mama's ass hole american fanatic
joseft30 6 months ago
@joseft30 i live in finland haha fail vittu me de
thunderbolt997 6 months ago
@thunderbolt997 i said your a fanatic not an american
joseft30 6 months ago
@joseft30 at 0:12 shoots 0:14 BULLS eye XD
thunderbolt997 6 months ago
omg that was a good window.u know u could open them,not break them...XD
janis123gatavs 7 months ago
It's a copy of the Mk.XIX!
FlunchRock00 8 months ago
@FlunchRock00 Especialy becourse weight 16kg vs 32kg
No bull the same.
FMorris308 7 months ago
How do the Russians do it?? Even their new stuff looks old and left over from the Cold War. And this Video looks like it was shot in the 60's with that pressed suit wearing dude.
seniorortega 8 months ago
@seniorortega
it is not so cute like american,but it is so better in battle ! russian army tech. is the best!
mladioruzar 8 months ago
@seniorortega Dude when you take off all futuristic designe of western weapons you will get shit ,and i cant say Russian weapons is ugly,for me its beutyful,real deadly practical and elegant masterpice
SlavaSvarogu 8 months ago
the bullet in 1:08 can be used as a vibrator if needed!! XD
MrBillisbo 8 months ago
0:14 he looked in so long because he was like DAMMIT I MISSED
HoldDaBullet 8 months ago
heavy weapons guy birthday present :D
bpeterdude316 8 months ago
THERE'S NO EARTHLY REASON BLACK PEOPLE SHOULD BE BREEDING WITH PEOPLE WITHOUT AFFIRMATIVE ACTION UNLESS THEY'RE USING IT AS SPRINGBOARD TO INFILTRATE, SPY, AND RAPE US WHILE USING HIDDEN LEVERAGE TO CENSOR US AND RAPE US ALIVE FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES LIKE HUMAN CATTLE.
These pigs don't even have ANY REAL SCIENTISTs other than people with the title who stand around and just take credit for the work done by those who have the capacity to think and actually pioneer.
billslusser 8 months ago
0.27 'we see american army, we use this to blast him to hell'
flyingclothesline 8 months ago
if they make another terminator movie this better be in it
PirateMcSandwich 8 months ago
I like to view how this Automatic Launcher Grenade will stop radiation fallout? I am sure that the Grenade will pass through the radiation.
jmorello123 8 months ago
We Americans invented it first fucken copycat russians never able to make their own always copying like kalashkinov who copied the german machine gun and called it ak47..fucken copycat!
quiznosful 9 months ago
@quiznosful LOL what a retard xD
MultiSakon 9 months ago
thebadguy2k6 9 months ago
@thebadguy2k6 :/ you are kidda stupid mate.accualy you are very stupid first off you called the german assault rifle a machine gun. Second of all how can coping an idea be bad I mean the ak is not alot like the german rifle its the same idea but a different weapon same with this granade launcher. And finaly idiot by your thinking americans are copy cats aswell make tanks no?? and yet they havent invented tanks.
MultiSakon 9 months ago
@MultiSakon The guy you were replying to was talking about russians "copying" the grenade launcher which is alot like the Mk19. In other words, Russians copying Americans. Then he went on to compare it to the russians AK being copied from the German STG-44, which is true. We (America), already had automatic rifles like the BAR (Browning Automatic Rifle). I know you have the IQ of a chicken, but try to follow the conversation.
thebadguy2k6 9 months ago
@thebadguy2k6 your trolling me right?
MultiSakon 9 months ago
@MultiSakon Yes I am! I’m a secret undercover KGB agent testing your loyalty. You have done well disseminating propaganda to the filthy capitalist scum. Your patriotism deserves high marks, however, your logical reasoning and persuasion skills are poor. Our dear leader has deemed you unfit for further propaganda operations and will seize half of your assets. An agent will be by momentarily to escort you to a local "re-education" camp where you will be assessed for further use to the state.
thebadguy2k6 8 months ago
@thebadguy2k6 well trolled
MultiSakon 8 months ago
@quiznosful which is why they got into space first, because they copied us right? And by the way, every nation in the world looked at the technology from Germany and went "Hmmmmm... I bet we can use this" not just the Russians.
LupineFear 9 months ago
@LupineFear He was talking about the automatic grenade launcher, not the space rocket (russian ICBM with Crew capsule instead of nuclear war heads). But uhhh, Russia's space rockets were based of the German V2's.....so......yeah.
thebadguy2k6 9 months ago
@quiznosful Most of the people on here are russian fan boy's. They believe anything with a russian name tag must be the best....even though most russian equipment is cheap garbage. So, when they see a russian automatic grenade launcher, they think it's a technological revolution, even though we invented the Mk-19 30 years ago. Anyway, I'm sure this russian grenade launcher was invented in the 1980's and is just now being produced.
thebadguy2k6 9 months ago
Zivela Majka RUSSIA !!! uraaaaaaaa...
1968drale 9 months ago
this tech is primative. keep up.
ManicMammoth 9 months ago
Russia + Germany = BEST :D!
Howie262 9 months ago 2
@Howie262 Say that back in 1944 and you would have been instantly executed on the spot by which ever side heard you say such an idiotic thing. However, the world has changed since then.......and not for the better. Your comment gives testiment to that fact.
thebadguy2k6 9 months ago
@thebadguy2k6 You mad bro?
Howie262 9 months ago
@Howie262 Not at all, just amazed at the how many people are ignorant of history.
thebadguy2k6 9 months ago
@thebadguy2k6 you sir, are silly
MultiSakon 9 months ago
russian military the best in the world.
nanashiinomiko 9 months ago
@nanashiinomiko the best in the world with 30 year old tech. Seriously, if these are Russia's "advanced" infantry weapons, then I don't think the U.S. or NATO has anything to worry about. When Russia can make something that competes with the XM-25 or XM-307......then we can debate about who is best. Personally, I wish Russia would up it's game and actually make something decent, I'm tired of my tax dollars being spent on R&D. I'd rather the U.S. just steal and copy new tech Russia/China.
thebadguy2k6 9 months ago
@thebadguy2k6 first of all try to make a decent rifle so you can arm your moronic army with it then comment on the old tech..
Cnupoc 9 months ago
@Cnupoc There is a long bloody trail of communist/radical corpses stretching from the shores of Normandy to the South Pacific Islands that can give full account to the "effectiveness" of U.S. weapons.....rifles included. But stay tuned.....many more to come.
thebadguy2k6 9 months ago
@thebadguy2k6 ye right. the one we all saw in South Ossetia. lol
Cnupoc 9 months ago
@Cnupoc I was thinking more like Afghanistan. You know, the grave yard of the Soviet Union. I spary painted my name on one of your mig's in 2003. Got a picture of it somewhere too.
thebadguy2k6 9 months ago
@thebadguy2k6 lol graveyard my ass xD USSR controlled 70% of the territory of afghanistan and stormed the famous palace stronghold which you can only dream of in Afghanistan. Your NATO pussies cant even get safely from the city center to the airport..
Cnupoc 9 months ago
@Cnupoc HAHAHA! Lie to yourself, but don't lie to me, I've personaly seen all your migs and tanks scattered like debree all over the place. I had no problem getting from Kabul to Baghram Air Base. But then, we weren't trying to kill eveybody. Anyway, give me a few days, I'll put together a slideshow of pictures from Afghanistan. I'll show you your countries graveyard.
thebadguy2k6 9 months ago