Its hilarious hearing people talk about this ad as if they know what their talking about! The rules clearly state that the use of VHF Radio is not to be used for collision avoidance and in this case the Tanker the Chief Officer was on was the stand on vessel but the rules clearly state that it does not take away your obligation of taking avoiding action when it becomes apparent that the other vessel is not giving way the Chief Officer should have done! before it became a close quarter situation!
Correct, port is the left side, the rest is a minor issue.
And, as the training shows, expect the unexpected.
First thing is to call the ships master.
Second, assume nothing, stay in CONSTANT radio and radar contact.
If there is any question, plan a course of action.
Stay in contact on 156.xxx MHz and at least one other radio, HF, satellite, UHF bridge to bridge, even Morse code on a signal lamp, but 2 means of contact is the preferred minimum.
@Pooltje1982 The wheelhouse is old, but there is still tankers that still carry this type of instrumentation. The official action of the bridge is correct, the error has commented the other vessel, not previously advised to have problems and can not turn to starboard.
Any maritime officer knows not to address any vessel by this wording. "Vessel on port bow" shows amateurs people involved. Nowadays AIS is compulsory, so it takes only a second to use the others ships name. AIS broken: If you really feel this was correct action: please return to nautical school.
I was referring to the equipment (navigation simulator) of training institute.
Old or new vessel has nothing to do with good seamanship, and is not relevant.
@Pooltje1982 If the AIS is mandatory for all ships over 300 gross tonnage, but to have some rudimentary systems in the simulator, only with the radar and little more, but could have used a rose for maneuver. Still, the blame really serious of the two ships.
Цука хоть и тренажер, но какого х... ни одной команды на руль, курс какой был такой и остался. Хоть и договорился будь всегда на готове. А кофе пить надо после расхождения и с сигареткой
To anyone who remembers the pencil and paper way of finding out a steady course on a compass rose... his course.... your course.... his position..... and rule off.
guys he didn't check the bearing enough AND he used the watch and he should'av turned hard to port or stopped the engines , id say capt also should'av taken the conn which may lifft up the responsibility from the chief but he didnt :D:D
1)Turning to port to avoid collision is not the appropriate and preferred action in many situations, and as stated in the International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea (COLREG), it's prohibited in many cases.
@canerpense it might be a good choice at least to save some lives as u know , sea is different we all know , but he turned to starboard and see what happened
1)Chief Off. should have checked the bearing of the other vessel at least 2 times before saying "the bearing is not changing".
2)The course indicator in the beginning and the end of the video shows the same course. If he had ordered "hard to starboard", we vessel would have changed course, even a bit.
3)If you pause the video on the collusion scene, you would notice that they are not colliding with the vessel that Chief Off. observed before.
2)Stopping engines would have worsen the situation, although vessels this size going at sea speed, require full reverse power for a few minutes to stop dead in the water. If the chief off. would have stopped the engine, the force on the rudder would vastly decrease thus ROT would decrease and this wouldn't be the appropriate action again.
Vessels are not cars. They can't stop and speed up again very quickly. Also ships need to go 24/7 because we have a time schedule and we are in business. They're really different than leisure boats.
If we stopped every time we encountered a vessel in collision course, none of the goods would arrive in time, or arrive at all.
Ofcourse safety is first although there are ways to encounter possible events by very effective - risk free - basic solutions.
@canerpense your right , i know ships r impossible to be liek cars and i was speaking basically on that video , not in any other situation becuz that was is freakin dangerous of course we must stop the engines if u wanna save lives not just save some business for the charterers !
I wasn't talking about preferring business to human life. Human life is the most precious thing that one can ever have. We seamen do value it more than anyone.
To put it simpler for you, you don't need to stop the car everytime you see a car that's coming from the other direction. If you all check each other with necessary periods, and cross check it, and -if possible- have verbal confirmation, you can make the adjustments to your course and keep driving.
3)It's true that I'm not on the bridge, I wouldn't really want to be in that situation as there is nothing much to do.
A trained eye can easily see the difference between the vessel on the horizon (which have a very high freeboard and the different superstructure) which chief off. seen with binoculars and the vessel seen right before the collision.
@canerpense i agree with the trained eye , but its still you cant say its a collision course because sometimes vessels on the horizon they seem to be colliding but finally they cross without a problem
on your third point , how did you notice that they r not colliding and your not even on the bridge with them , on your second point the ROT was changing to starboard if you notice , anyway its just a video with too much missing point like CPA and ship's speed .
In my opinion is always better to be on watch when you see the port light of another, because not any missunderstanding about who should to change course, in contrary you should be wait about his intentions like in video.
The alarm sound is wrong and his call could be better but, it is a very good video! both actors have a very good performance and his faces just before the strike are great! It is a video of course, then, We cannot to criticize with our point of view like OOW, anyway, I was involved in this kind of manouvrings and I can remember how much stress I felt!
Good video. Better than those safety movie they show to us on board. Also, a mistake in calling the other ship "Ship on my port side ;) ". Then a wrong alarm signal "Fire Alarm" but that's better than nothing. Good sentence at the end " Test the reality before the reality test you"!!
Very good! You can actually feel the helplesness of the bridge in face of the unavoidable collision... And the last phrase, "Test reality before reality tests you" was a nice wrap-up.
Its hilarious hearing people talk about this ad as if they know what their talking about! The rules clearly state that the use of VHF Radio is not to be used for collision avoidance and in this case the Tanker the Chief Officer was on was the stand on vessel but the rules clearly state that it does not take away your obligation of taking avoiding action when it becomes apparent that the other vessel is not giving way the Chief Officer should have done! before it became a close quarter situation!
esack123 3 weeks ago
why is he never put the engines on reverse if he goes 10 knots the ship will stop
marineyacht 2 months ago
Correct, port is the left side, the rest is a minor issue.
And, as the training shows, expect the unexpected.
First thing is to call the ships master.
Second, assume nothing, stay in CONSTANT radio and radar contact.
If there is any question, plan a course of action.
Stay in contact on 156.xxx MHz and at least one other radio, HF, satellite, UHF bridge to bridge, even Morse code on a signal lamp, but 2 means of contact is the preferred minimum.
Training is the key.
Arabhacks 5 months ago
what a chief!!! oh man!! i hope that kind of officers will die immediately
jeanpierrealfa 5 months ago
@jeanpierrealfa looks like as 4th mate )))
zoobeg13 3 months ago
@zoobeg13 or there is something other than coffee in cup?))
zoobeg13 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Was this real or just a film/advertising clip?
Annon1100 6 months ago
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Annon1100 6 months ago
wow i want to try that
may i??
kenrine2009 7 months ago
fuck dis deck officer!
ebblorenz 7 months ago
I Stopped at 2:29 :'-( sad sad story......
m8nproductions 8 months ago
for a minute there i was scared
howardkevinm 8 months ago
@amugani Try reading the ROR on crossing situations before commenting. :D
KhairiSapari 9 months ago
Most stupid video ever.
This guy is no maritime officer whatsoever, his actions are unexplanable.
This is an anti-commercial. No serious client will send anyone to this training facility.
Bridge simulators are a good thing, but having the right equipment does not make it a good training facility.
Pooltje1982 9 months ago
@Pooltje1982 The wheelhouse is old, but there is still tankers that still carry this type of instrumentation. The official action of the bridge is correct, the error has commented the other vessel, not previously advised to have problems and can not turn to starboard.
lagranhorabruja 7 months ago
@lagranhorabruja
Any maritime officer knows not to address any vessel by this wording. "Vessel on port bow" shows amateurs people involved. Nowadays AIS is compulsory, so it takes only a second to use the others ships name. AIS broken: If you really feel this was correct action: please return to nautical school.
I was referring to the equipment (navigation simulator) of training institute.
Old or new vessel has nothing to do with good seamanship, and is not relevant.
Pooltje1982 7 months ago
@Pooltje1982 If the AIS is mandatory for all ships over 300 gross tonnage, but to have some rudimentary systems in the simulator, only with the radar and little more, but could have used a rose for maneuver. Still, the blame really serious of the two ships.
lagranhorabruja 7 months ago
@Pooltje1982 He dosent say "port bow" he says "ships on my port side"
Navigationbridge 6 months ago
@Navigationbridge port bow, port side or port board its the same :)
lagranhorabruja 5 months ago
look that simulator xD the oldes i ever seen in my life
roussos5 10 months ago
Цука хоть и тренажер, но какого х... ни одной команды на руль, курс какой был такой и остался. Хоть и договорился будь всегда на готове. А кофе пить надо после расхождения и с сигареткой
alisabarbarisa 11 months ago
Well nice video , many navigations schools haveing a ship-simulator for training
Belmaximus 11 months ago
anybody here knows the name of the broken tanker appears at 2:25 ?
7amanyation 11 months ago
To anyone who remembers the pencil and paper way of finding out a steady course on a compass rose... his course.... your course.... his position..... and rule off.
clive3262 1 year ago 4
nice video
Universalian 1 year ago
that looks like a high score for exxon
00Billy 1 year ago
the capt.......are drug addict..............
mrnormanish 1 year ago
This looks like an Islamic Terrorist senario, where the other ship deliberately collides with the first ship.
ChiefOren 1 year ago
bullshit movie!!!
ship on my port side???????
he tels the watch men to take the weel but does not instruct him to make a turn
the idiot
plus he waits until it is to late to contact him again
slimp1986 1 year ago
@slimp1986 ..... -15
gaze0707 1 year ago
Heftig, maar zeer goede video.
minkuukel 1 year ago
Very nice video, I wish we had these kind of simulators in my faculty...
curiosin 1 year ago
Why would number 2 go for a coffee break when he is on a collision course??
And why is the captain away from the bridge?
tannalv 1 year ago
@tannalv Because a captain cant be awake for 24 hours. He need to sleep as well, and these kind of ships are a few weeks on the sea....
OnTourWithGerrit 1 year ago
guys he didn't check the bearing enough AND he used the watch and he should'av turned hard to port or stopped the engines , id say capt also should'av taken the conn which may lifft up the responsibility from the chief but he didnt :D:D
shadowsam0 1 year ago
@shadowsam0
1)Turning to port to avoid collision is not the appropriate and preferred action in many situations, and as stated in the International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea (COLREG), it's prohibited in many cases.
canerpense 1 year ago
@canerpense it might be a good choice at least to save some lives as u know , sea is different we all know , but he turned to starboard and see what happened
shadowsam0 1 year ago
what film is that?
mullet559 1 year ago
1)Chief Off. should have checked the bearing of the other vessel at least 2 times before saying "the bearing is not changing".
2)The course indicator in the beginning and the end of the video shows the same course. If he had ordered "hard to starboard", we vessel would have changed course, even a bit.
3)If you pause the video on the collusion scene, you would notice that they are not colliding with the vessel that Chief Off. observed before.
(Navigation Officer)
canerpense 1 year ago
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shadowsam0 1 year ago
@shadowsam0
2)Stopping engines would have worsen the situation, although vessels this size going at sea speed, require full reverse power for a few minutes to stop dead in the water. If the chief off. would have stopped the engine, the force on the rudder would vastly decrease thus ROT would decrease and this wouldn't be the appropriate action again.
canerpense 1 year ago
@canerpense alright :D:D it all depends on ships characteristics after alll ! stopping engines in early action would have saved the situation
shadowsam0 1 year ago
@shadowsam0
To answer your all replies:
Vessels are not cars. They can't stop and speed up again very quickly. Also ships need to go 24/7 because we have a time schedule and we are in business. They're really different than leisure boats.
If we stopped every time we encountered a vessel in collision course, none of the goods would arrive in time, or arrive at all.
Ofcourse safety is first although there are ways to encounter possible events by very effective - risk free - basic solutions.
canerpense 1 year ago
@canerpense your right , i know ships r impossible to be liek cars and i was speaking basically on that video , not in any other situation becuz that was is freakin dangerous of course we must stop the engines if u wanna save lives not just save some business for the charterers !
shadowsam0 1 year ago
@shadowsam0
I wasn't talking about preferring business to human life. Human life is the most precious thing that one can ever have. We seamen do value it more than anyone.
To put it simpler for you, you don't need to stop the car everytime you see a car that's coming from the other direction. If you all check each other with necessary periods, and cross check it, and -if possible- have verbal confirmation, you can make the adjustments to your course and keep driving.
canerpense 1 year ago
@canerpense
in this case i do agree with you 100%.
shadowsam0 1 year ago
@shadowsam0
3)It's true that I'm not on the bridge, I wouldn't really want to be in that situation as there is nothing much to do.
A trained eye can easily see the difference between the vessel on the horizon (which have a very high freeboard and the different superstructure) which chief off. seen with binoculars and the vessel seen right before the collision.
canerpense 1 year ago
@canerpense i agree with the trained eye , but its still you cant say its a collision course because sometimes vessels on the horizon they seem to be colliding but finally they cross without a problem
shadowsam0 1 year ago
@shadowsam0
That wasn't my point. You don't necessarily need to collide with everything you see on the horizon, that's something i wouldn't argue. :)
canerpense 1 year ago
@canerpense alright ! lets just navigate safely :)
shadowsam0 1 year ago
@canerpense with my respects to you officer ,
on your third point , how did you notice that they r not colliding and your not even on the bridge with them , on your second point the ROT was changing to starboard if you notice , anyway its just a video with too much missing point like CPA and ship's speed .
shadowsam0 1 year ago
What's the name of the movie?
That's what you call ship simulator.
callofdutywawcj1 1 year ago
very great video!!!
Stormsurvivor1980 1 year ago
Fin kommentar: Forbanna tulling! :) Mange tullinger der ute, så det er bare å holde øynene åpne- husk sjøveisregel nr 5!
UT740 1 year ago
never trust anything anyone from eastern europe says . prob pissed out of there heads !
bigrider2806 1 year ago
In my opinion is always better to be on watch when you see the port light of another, because not any missunderstanding about who should to change course, in contrary you should be wait about his intentions like in video.
MaracayMaracay 1 year ago
The alarm sound is wrong and his call could be better but, it is a very good video! both actors have a very good performance and his faces just before the strike are great! It is a video of course, then, We cannot to criticize with our point of view like OOW, anyway, I was involved in this kind of manouvrings and I can remember how much stress I felt!
MaracayMaracay 1 year ago
WELL DONE
xxxxroManxxxx 1 year ago
Good video. Better than those safety movie they show to us on board. Also, a mistake in calling the other ship "Ship on my port side ;) ". Then a wrong alarm signal "Fire Alarm" but that's better than nothing. Good sentence at the end " Test the reality before the reality test you"!!
DJBouc 1 year ago
cool a real life Kobyashi Maru lol, but in all honosty cool vid.
sliver01 1 year ago
With an aware crew like this on the bridge there is no accident. The ship would have turned in time.
The problem is with the same situation at night with the lone watchman asleep.
markusbaertschi 1 year ago
WOW, very impressing.
A real good add
La0koon 1 year ago
Very good! You can actually feel the helplesness of the bridge in face of the unavoidable collision... And the last phrase, "Test reality before reality tests you" was a nice wrap-up.
lotsemann 2 years ago
very good video I was thinking it was more a film than a training ad good show chaps
vonchappell 2 years ago
Theke diuoue eksud uejdug us dug syd gudduape g ehludce gue.!
Baldgol4 2 years ago
Qualcuno potrebbe trovarlo divertente, ma purtroppo sono cose che accadono veramente.
zukabamba 2 years ago
nice flick
Steelhorsetransferco 2 years ago
Tur att kaptenen hann ta på sig sin uniforms jacka!
smiler115 2 years ago
thats one good advertisment.
devkamal 2 years ago
what is it a music??
osa665 2 years ago
The music is scored by Thomas Bergersen
ekkofilm 2 years ago
@ekkofilm There is a name of this song ?
CuritibaMr 1 year ago
@osa665
fancysnake1 1 year ago
yes, that is a great Vid, very very nice!! :)
seefahrer1882 2 years ago 5
Wow.....very nice video!
WhiteTiger993 2 years ago
Bellissimo!!!!!
videonavi 2 years ago 3
Forbanna tulling! :P
nordrott 2 years ago 5
Osten vs. Skranglia....
andreasbenz 2 years ago
hahah, Norvegia kolliderer med Anglia! priceless!
Haag1s1 2 years ago