Autistic behaviors - son stimming

[racham1]

@DoraBieber1 He does not stim like this as much as he did back then no. He does not make nearly the sounds he used to...but will from time to time. He does still have to almost always have a ruler in his hands and manipulate it around...but he does not always run objects back and forth across his eyes and peripheral field of vision as he did in the past. I would say his ways of self-soothing or stimming are a lot less noticeable or obvious now.

[racham1]

@DoraBieber1 yes he is more high functioning....improves all the time...did not start out that way though...he was over 5 years old before he really started to talk and then it was difficult to understand him. He used lots of intelligible sounds mixed in with a few words

[racham1]

@DoraBieber1 yes he does...I make sure there is nothing horrific left here that is why I (his mom) have to see the comments before approving them. You would not believe some of the comments I have received. Noah is now approaching 13 years of age...so these videoclips were from a long time ago in his life...and he has progressed so much ...most would probably not realize he is the same kid these days. Thanks for your comments and visit!

[dranmarkc]

mam thanx alot this what my son does asometimes he is in 4 and half year i wanna ask about his age and is he good in school

[LMFmusicFan]

My son does the same sound, when playing with his trains and cars. He also does a visual stimming, and has hypoactive sensory.

[BirdOfParadise777]

Appears to be playing. A lot of kids make sounds when they play. Looks like he is playing with something like it is an airplane and making the "flying" sound. What is wrong with that? What makes anything he's doing so dramatic that you record it and want people to watch? What is the point? Just asking since I watched it.

[racham1]

@BirdOfParadise777 he has a RULER that he used to move back and forth in a repetitive pattern while making noises over and over...sometimes for hours at a time. He also used to walk back and forth up against a wall with his one eye running alongside the wall over and over while making sounds....or the television....Sometimes he would just make sounds. I posted many of these back then (FOUR yrs ago) because they are helpful to others with young autistic kids to know it can normal for them

[BirdOfParadise777]

@racham1 Thank you for the information. I think I should communicate with other people who have posted videos though. It seems here that even though the comments are set to approval only- the person who left a nasty comment for me, you posted. I suppose because they accused me of attacking you. So, you obviously feel attacked when asked questions and feel you need those "supporters." Ok. No problem. Won't bother you again. I'll ask questions of others who post similar videos. Thank you again.

[racham1]

@BirdOfParadise777 Not sure what you are talking about here...I have approved your comments...I do not check in here very often so sometimes they do not get approved for a period of time...but I do approve them..unless there is bad language or something in a comment...because my son who is now 12 does read the comments left here

[racham1]

@BirdOfParadise777 and I never said it was dramatic....in fact...I posted most all these videoclips to show other parents of autistic kids that what they do is not weird for them...and in fact will help them calm down in most situations....etc. I never had anyone back then to tell me or show me these sorts of things. I don't put things here to get anyone to HAVE to watch my son...but those who CHOOSE to may for hopefully some shared common information about our kids

[BirdOfParadise777]

@racham1 Thank you for answering my questions. Seems that you took it- harshly. It wasn't meant that way! If I would have realized you were touchy about it, I wouldn't have asked questions. Maybe it's better if I ask questions of other people who have posted videos. Sorry to have bothered you.

[racham1]

@BirdOfParadise777 and not sure also why you think I took anything harshly....I don't believe I answered in any capacity to display any such emotional response...haha...I am sorry for laughing now but I just cannot imagine having nothing else to worry about other than these types of things ....I just cannot even fathom that or understand why anyone would let it bother them to the point you have. Hope I was able to answer your questions to your satisfaction. Have a good one!

[rokeen4554]

@BirdOfParadise777 WHY do you even talk?

[bi2solar]

@BirdOfParadise777 why do you come on and attack people on a subject you clearly know nothing about?

[BirdOfParadise777]

@bi2solar I asked the person who posted the video questions. Why do you, BUTT IN and define that as "attacking?" My questions were answered. Why are you causing trouble? For comment numbers? Or to announce yourself as a "Comment Cop?" And you decide "what I know and don't know!" Dang, "YouTube Troll!" Nothing better to do! Butt out! Thank you. God you must be hard to live with, you "Know-it-all and can't keep your opinion to yourself when not asked, people!" I responded to THE video. Period!

[dness87]

my 3 yr old does the same thing :) He crosses his little feet and will lay down holding something and just look at it and make noises. sometimes i will go and play with him, and he seems to always welcome me when i bug him. they truely dont like being alone like the doctors say.

[waarce]

My son likes to say eeeeee, ego, ego, ego.

[ediself]

ooooooh i used to do this a LOT! basically raising my arms above my torso in the air and twisting my wrists, and going oooooo...especially when i couldn't sleep, it helped.

[shaumae]

omg!! my son does this!!

[motleyprism]

I'm 25 on the spectrum and I still do this... creating my own steady sound and sight blocks out everything else. It's like taking back control of stimulus. It's very relaxing.

[racham1]

@motleyprism exactly....I kind of try to tell some that it is similar to the OHM sound some people make over and over when they meditate....etc.

[IndigoCat17]

Is he having a tantrum???

[racham1]

@IndigoCat17 no...does it look like he is having a tantrum? This is what he used to do...to help him COME DOWN after a stressful day.....no biggie....just soothing sounds and repetitive movements....

[autismguide]

my son says the same word 100 times or repeats the same action like rubbing something with his hand 100 times

[CodexAlimentarius1]

Your kid might have mercury poisoning, look up the symptoms and see if it relates. Zeolite powder cures mercury poisoning.

[xxbeastlyxx10]

@CodexAlimentarius1

That's a total lie. Autism is genetic. Give evidence to back it up.

Stimming helps autistics cope with stress from the environment.

- I'm autistic

[9999necron]

@xxbeastlyxx10 no its not. the genetic factor plays a role for people who are less tolerable to their body detoxifying heavy metals like mercury. I have heard of autistic children going on a mercury detox to become %100 healthy again.

[whotfor]

Thanks for sharing racham1. Any suggestions for how to teach your child not to vocually stim. My daughter does a grunting cough most of the day unless she is %100 focus on something she loves. Thanks for any help.

[racham1]

well I never discouraged Noah from making his sounds when we were at home. I did try to teach him to go to his room if we were trying to do something else in the other room like read or watch a movie or something...as his sounds might be disturbing to someone. I can pretty much not hear them when he does them now. I also just tried to remind him when in public he had to be "quiet" and then once we were back outside or in the car or home..he could make sounds again if he wanted. That worked.

[IstanbulRider]

@whotfor Hi, my 3 year old autistic girl does grunting sounds as well. I've been trying to find what it means, or how to treat it but haven't found an answer yet.

Anyone knows? Please...

[racham1]

@IstanbulRider Noah does it to calm himself......it is soothing...sort of like when someone makes an OM sound when meditating

[TheBroMaster]

Iam an high-functioning autistic adult and have valuable knowledge and expirence. if anyone has any questions or needs someone to talk to about autism (who understands) feel free to message me

[BowToYourHighness]

@TheBroMaster; Thanks for posting.

At the risk of inviting trolls and flamers, how about generally posting your throughts here and elsewhere on OSD videos? I think that when people are simply exposed to alternate ideas and suggestions, it moves the state of knowledge and expertise incrimentally forward.

[URBLOODYFOOL]

@TheBroMaster dear i need to know more about autism. becazz the world i am living have no info about autism.

[irishguy1960xxx]

@TheBroMaster As a parent of a "lower functioning " 17 year old with Autism- I feel that the "spectrum" label has created a false image of the varying degrees of Autism- Am I wrong to assume that the challenges you were presented with in your life are very different then the challenges of someone like my son who functions at a less than 1st grade level?

To me it is an injustice that everyone/anyone labled autistic are lumped together under a broad banner as if it's a one size fits all.

[kaneymac]

i do that and can also entertain my self with simple things like a pen or something... it helps

[TheMysticalMoon]

I have a son with Autism, and he does the same thing. I never knew that it was called something. Until he was 2 he hardly talked, but would make noises, and humms all of the time. After 2, he started to talk. He is 3 now, and has been doing mathematics for about 5 mths now, has a wonderful memory and is at an age 5 level of intelligence. I can't believe that a little over a year ago he hardly talked. I home school him, and he is doing well with at home therapy, and the humming is rare now.

[racham1]

yes isn't that wonderful? Noah did math really well at a young age too.....he just was not very verbal and really did not talk more than 2-word sentences until he was almost 5...and even then it was difficult to understand him. I also homeschool Noah. Thanks for the visit and comment! Best wishes!

[kindredspiritPA]

@racham1 One of my girls has no speech at age 3, my twin girls both are mildly autistic. My other twin has some sounds but not understandable yet. My speechless twin sounds more like a moaning sound than a hum, should I be encouraged that someday? she'll speak??

[sskgrs]

Hi racham, My daugher is like that and she hums and keeps flicking any strings that she can get hold of. Is there any OT techniques to reduce the stims that you know? Please let me know

[racham1]

well the only thing I know that sometimes would work with Noah was to provide a replacement behavior for any behavior of stimming that might interfere with others in public...like in a classroom setting..etc. I was able to give Noah things to fidget with or focus on that usually required silent repetitive movements whenever he was in a quiet public setting. I try to just let him stim whenever he needs to but also taught him early on here would be certain places he would have to do it "quietly"

[racham1]

that was sometimes hard too....but Noah soon learned for example when we would go to the library that it was a "quiet" place and he had to do quiet repetitive behaviors or actions while there.but once back out I let him cut loose and he could also let loose completely once home or in the car.

[racham1]

the only thing I know OT usually does for this is about what I did. Try to replace what they call the "less desirable" behavior with an "acceptable one." Of course this is all unfortunately deemed by society's standards and schools, etc. BUT...they can be taught to contain most of their louder bigger stimming episodes until they get home or in a more private place. They CAN learn to do more quiet things in public. BUT if not...so what really you know? It is part of who they are! ;)

[chloesdime]

Why not let her stim? If you try to restrict it wouldn't that cause her stress? Is she doing any ABA?

[Winter077]

Thanks for posting..very helpful!

[louloutinkerbelle]

Hi Racham, this video is so like my child. He hums and hums to himself, yet I find it hard to distinguish WHY. It happens at various times so I cannot pinpoint if it is a stim, a stress moment or when he is relaxed to be honest. Ignore the people who are making comments - videos like this help others to understand and relate to. Thanks so much.

[davnek49]

Don't know what nasty things that person was saying, but I wanted you to know that I am using your video for educational purposes and appreciate your sharing it.

[racham1]

thanks so much...I am thankful it is helpful to others!

[racham1]

way back before my son was even officially diagnosed if I had been able to see some videos similar to what I post here with my son....it would have been HUGELY helpful for me to even begin to think or realize he might have autism. A medical assistant is far from a doctor. I am in the medical field myself and like I said..you do not even know what my background in medicine or autism is. So give me a break and back off

[racham1]

As far as autism support groups? I have been there done that years ago. You think I don't know anything about autism? You have no clue. Again....IGNORANCE is not a good thing and so many need to be educated. People should find out facts on behind something before you make assumptions

[racham1]

HOW dare you come on here on MY page and try to tell me all about autism or what it is or what is or is not appropriate or try to accuse me of GAWKING at my own son for whatever benefit implying to all here I am presenting him as some sort of sideshow? Give me a break. Again you have NO idea who you are talking to.....what experience I have with autism or not...or anything about my son or my life with him or our history.

[racham1]

Cassie and fiance.......I am now blocking you because personally I just don't need your crap. Makes no difference to me if you are or are also not autistic, have Asperger's or whatever.  You are entitled to your opinions...but the reasons behind why I chose to film my son doing anything in his life whether it be stimming, playing, singing, any autistic behaviors is entirely up to me.

[racham1]

THIS video feed is a valuable educational tool then for others to view and observe and learn some of the behaviors of autism. You obviously have not read my other posts here or are not aware of my blog about my son....and his diagnoses or I doubt you would have made such an ignorant comment.

[racham1]

Cassie1984....I am going to take time to reply to your obviously ignorant comment. DUH....I HAD already been taking my son for evaluations and tests etc to try to find out what was wrong with him and why he was doing what he was doing. PART OF successful evaluation is filming behaviors your child does at home so the doctor can then see it.

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[PINKluvr01]

some celebrity "cured" her son with autism by not letting him eat any bread or dairy

[MsMarcethebest]

is that true, you think?

[SandraDrinksOJ]

WTheck?

[ahmedsmom]

my child repeats everything anyone says. never answers questions, he just can't. he is like a deer caught in headlights.. the diet thing failed for us miserably.. he only eats chicken nuggets and macoroni n cheese. he will go hungry for these things..his diet is limited.

[meghanscotti]

This is called echolalia. Get him into a.b.a. therapy right away. If he can speak he can learn to speak for himself!

[racham1]

well in fact back then Noah did not speak too much...and he did this as a way to calm himself..etc. He rarely does it now....and he now can speak very well.....though does still require speech therapy due to some issues with pronouncing certain sounds/letters. He has come a long way though!

[meghanscotti]

THat note was actually for ahmedsmom (refering to repeating spoken words). I hope she reads it.. As for noah and his family, congrats on all your hard earned success, i know there are many to come!

[greendaygirl09]

this is what my god brother does. he also holds his ears and rocks back and forth. i loooove him soooo much. even though he is almost as big as me, he still thinks he's small enough to jump on my back for a piggy back ride. and he finds it funny when he jumps on me and knocks me to the ground...well, i guess it is kinda funny. i love hearing him laugh. its the best thing in the world.

[DemonaLlama]

My autie makes that noise to stim - it releases tension in her diaphragm and that relaxes her. The same effect happens when she listens to rock metal (ie not "heavy metal") or nu metal because they are bass-heavy forms of music. She listens to a particular track by her favourite band and can be laughing by the end of it.

[racham1]

yes...that is exactly why Noah does it...it relaxes him. It is very much like the "OM" sound people make when they meditate! ;)

[zodiacgirl3]

my son who has Autism does the same thing..in addition to humming noises he makes other noises as well...it isnt as severe now that he is in school...and like your son he is extremely sensitive to foods--whether it be smells or textures..i can hardly get him to eat anything other than pudding and chicken nuggets..lol...have u tried a "gluten free" diet for him? i havent yet for my son...not sure if there is any proof in it, but the dietician at WIC said its worth a try

[racham1]

no...I have never been fond of the whole (DAN=DEFEAT AUTISM NOW) approach.

Noah has sensory integration disorder along with his autism and generalized anxiety disorder. The sensory integration disorder makes certain textures, smells, tastes extremely difficult for Noah to handle. It is not that certain foods cause him to behave in any specific way. It is the textures of foods or smells or shape....etc...that he struggles with.

[GabyDeGDL]

Hi racham1, thanks for the reply. Have you taken your son to a Dan! Doctor? I know they are expensive, but they run several tests on autistic children to determine if they have GI conditions or allergies, maybe that can help your son eat more foods. I'll take my son in 2 weeks, because he doesn't eat a lot of things either. I buy and bake special foods and I actually think he eats different things now, and feels better. Good luck!

[GabyDeGDL]

Hi, My son was displaying this behavior since 14 months. At 20 months he was walking in circles and hand flapping with peripheral vision, but as soon as I took off Milk (casein) from his diet, he began to get better, even his speech! the hand flapping is only occasional. Try de Gluten and Casein Free Diet.

[racham1]

well Noah does not really do this anymore. Rarely he will move a ruler still in front of his eyes and to his peripheral vision...back and forth...but that is very rare now. Same for sounds. Noah would have starved if I tried the gluten/casein free diet. He is very limited now in what he eats. If I did that he would be eating nothing.

[zodiacgirl3]

oops i just read ur reply to someone else about the gluten free diet....that is my dilemma too..if i put Christopher on a gluten free diet, he would starve too

[Ginnamom]

Our boy 11 with ASD does this high pictched sweel when he is hapy or upset.. used to do the Ommmm it is almost like spectrum kids speak thier own language

[charityjunebug]

My son will hold an airplane and "fly" it over his head for 30-40 minutes at a time. He is 2.

[shav0nne]

My son use to do that scoping as well. It was mostly with small cars. Now 8mo. of therapy later he doesn't do it at all.

[kymihills]

My twin sisters 3 year old was finally diagnosed a month ago. It is a huge shock and devastating for her and her husband, and for me..but the more i learn and educate myself on autism, the more i realise it is more like a unique "condition", not so much a "mental disability". My nephew spins a lot too, but this usually abates in most "auties" after a couple of years. One of the things we've found very encouraging is that early intervention ALWAYS produces some truly amazing results.

[otonanoC]

Have you tried to stop feeding him any foods with red dye in them?

[sansu13]

hi devildog. hows ur son now? what are the symptoms that u see from ur son? thank u.

[colder619]

My son does this very same thing along with handflapping, walking in circles, well you know. He hasn't been diagnosed yet but we have an appointment set up. It took 6 months for us to find someone to look at him. Was this the case for you?

[racham1]

Noah also walked in circles.....not really anymore...but he used to pace the room like a caged animal especially before bedtime.....over and over he would go....handflapping was occasional when excited. It took me a very long time to get a doc to listen and then even longer to get in and be evaluated because of the backlog! Most appointments for formal evaluation are anywhere from 5-6 months to 1 year after referral!!! So my suggestion is to never waste time! ;)

[racham1]

Well I remember being in denial about Noah....and thinking the worst. It is indeed a process and has several steps that I think everyone who is a parent of a newly diagnosed autistic child goes through. A word of advice.....try to look past the devastation and shock and never give up hope. Our kids are different but still very very capable and can learn and progress with a little extra input on our end. I wish you and your wife the best with your son! ;)

[lcl176]

well congraulation noah what are you nerves about some paripo thoing plese explain this too me and does he oknow sign language or something well i;m luis but everyone calls me luigi but i take any name i am a specal needs student from mountain pointe high school and i do have kubuki syendruem i dont know what that ,eans i dont know what that is but otherwise i am a normal kid i have an alphasmart to help me write too and when i graduate in 20012 i plan on going to asu.

[lcl176]

i love you noah you are a very sweet kid you look normal too me just stop stimming doesn he get music threpy and stuff how old was he when this happened and doies he go toschool.

[racham1]

Noah was homeschooled from Kindergarten until third grade when he wanted to try public school again. He did very well and successfully completed the grade and he will be starting fourth grade this fall. I am nervous about that as he will no longer have a parapro for just himself....but will share one within the classroom.

[lcl176]

hey noah you are a sweet boy how old was he when this happened and to make him stop doing this just go into his room and play with him what kind of movies does he like and does he go to school and what grade is he in.

[racham1]

Noah was only about 4-5 or so.....

I allowed him time to do this because he needed it to remain calm and functional. It did not bother me......and it is not something he does at all anymore.....or very very rarely and nothing to this degree. Thanks for the visit and comment!

[TrilingualTots]

Your video reminded me of my son. He is now 22. He could not talk until he was 7 and the encouragement I recieved from doctors was find a long term facility early. I did not listen. He graduated from High School with honors, and is now bi-lingual, and working on his third language... He is working at a job he loves, and has touched the hearts of many many people.

Hang in there... it is a roller coaster ride, and you do not appreciate the thrills until the ride is coasting into home.

[JohnDupas]

seems like he's just playing around or I'm just blind I guess...

[autismom6]

This reminds me alot of my son, he spins things in his face alot too. It's hard to get on tape, he is walking around alot when he stims this way, and if he sees the camera he stops or will run away. He makes the same noises too. The last person who commented should not worry about harsh judgment, the awareness is what matters, those people are ignorant who dont understand or have opinions on something they know NOTHING about. As I am sure you deal with too in public when we take our sons out.

[ph0t0graphic]

My Son makes the exact same sound. I would of thought it was him if I was out of the room and this video was playing. I am scared to post videos of my child in fear of harsh judgement of some people. But, I think that in time I will post some for people to know they are not alone as you have with posting yours here. Thankyou.

[atrinigyul]

thank you so much for sharing such a personal video with everyone. it helps so much revising these behaviors -- i work as a counselor with autistic men...thanks again. god bless you both -- he looks like a very sweet boy

[LWILLIAMO]

my boy zooms things past his right eye and closes the left ( diagnosed dec 07)he also makes noises as he does this, you think your on your own with these things glad to see were not. I to would not change him for the world i just wont to understand him .

[racham1]

oh no....you are never alone! MANY do these sounds and behavior...it is soothing for them I believe....calms them.....helps them to cope

[jcon119]

my three year old son Liam does the exact same thing with the pencil. most things he plays with he moves it past his eyes in a lineal motion.

[racham1]

Yes Noah does too. I did not capture that very well on this clip. BUT most things..rulers.....pencils...e­ven his Hallmark train ornaments from this year.....as he plays he ZOOMS them RIGHT PAST his eyes......to the side.....back and forth....

[jcon119]

from what ive recently learned , that seems be be a pretty common behavior in people with asd.  im going to make a video soon to share with everyone.

[daza2j96]

I'm glad he has found a way to calm down. I still don't know how to help Ethan when there is too much stimulation. He annoys people when he is... I wouldn't have him any other way, though. He's my buddy.

[churchofchrist39503]

My son also does this behavior. He is now almost 7 and you can hear him on the poddy stimming. It doesn't matter whether he is doing #1 or #2.

[rocketmermaid]

Thank you for sharing this very personal video of your son. As a singer, teacher of young children and also working in the healing arts I cannot help but notice that Noah here is toning first a D#, then an E and warbling slightly into D# back to an E again. In energetic terms the E is the healing note for the autonomic nervous system as well as to self confidence. Intelligent self healing! I would highly

[wiscsuzski]

Fascinating. I wondered if anyone has studied the pitches common to autistic vocalizing. Have you watched/listened to "In My Language" ?

[Casdok]

Your sons stimming is a bit more contained than my sons!!!

[momof2boyswithautism]

Wow! My youngest son "scopes" too- just the same behavior. I like the term. Keep smiling- and helping your son.

[funnygrl702]

lol my friend with 2 children on the spectrum just bought a shirt asking "to stim or not to stim that is the question" i dont think its sad i think we all stim at times..i know i get caught gazing into space and twirling my hair every so often ..

[greendaylover09]

aww..thats sad..i work with autistic kids..and im only 14 and i helped one so much. you would never know he was autistic at times..but i love kids like that

[racham1]

actually not sad. He has come a long way...and this was something that actually helped him to calm down. He rarely has to do it now.