Oistrakh plays Sibelius (Op.47)

[huddassc]

around 3:38 is onr of my favorite moments in classical music.  (when seen live and a little more drawn out)

[dxhaloxc]

WHY DO ALL CADENZAS START WITH A LONG SUSPENDED NOTE THEN A FCKING CRAZY ASS RUN THAT TRANSCENDS 293847923874928374 octaves.

[arzdiamondbacks]

lol so true

[Yossarian392]

Because it sounds good and is impressive.

[cchamp27]

i love oistrakh

[Floyd5642]

When is this from? I assume it is from the fifties or something, but I don't know how long people have had color television in other countries.

[cfeAncient]

I believe this is a mass showing of skill.

He is very talented and I love the way he plays this piece. He really defines soloist.

[Barmomk]

You must listen KOgan. He is the best vioinist...

[oatboy]

oistrakh is so bad ass, if i could play like any one violinist it would be him. As for heifetz vs. oistrakh, that is a silly comparison, they are two of the greatest violinists ever, so why say who's better? Oistrakh was a more rounded player, though, imo. I'd much rather hear him play the classics than heifetz, like beethoven and brahms.

[fedeminici]

grow up and shut your fuck up, asshole.

if Heifetz could hear you, i bet that he will kick ur ass.

[ttryl09]

You must be trying to be funny.

[dxhaloxc]

heifetz is too much fo a showman for me. hes a great violinist. i dont feel his playing though.

[gilbertoagostinho]

@dxhaloxc Yeah, yeah ,same old story here... who is better than who? Beethoven or Mozart? Picasso or Dali? Karpov or Kasparov? Schumacher or Senna? You guys should learn that it is possible to have more than one genius in one specific area. Appreciate both and that's it, as simple as that, just don't embarrass yourselves saying stupid opinions...

[turrka]

Hienoo, mutta Heifetzi on kuulimpi. Kahtokee Shlomo Mintzin 3. osa, ihan kiva.

[manutabora]

How is Heifetz better? Seriously, with two monsters like Oistrakh and Heifetz, how do you decide that one is better than the other? There is so much to love from each interpretation that I think we should just learn to respect the fact that they were very different from each other, but that doesn't make one better than the other. If you were comparing me and Heifetz, well... that would be blasphemy! You get my point...

[davidesgo]

NO WORDS O_O

[kevinoreos]

Heifetz was better. You all should listen to his recording. It still gives me chills every single time.

[abburidotakaria]

then why are you watching and commenting on oistrakh? Better/worse is all subjective. Read manutabora's post

[leocoimbracoimbra]

he plays wonderfully , but he is ugly as hell xD damn xD

[iamalittlespy]

That is the dumbest thing one can say about a great violinist. Actually in his youth he was a good looking man.

[ironmagma]

Well, in my edition at least, it's not marked as the cadenza, where the "first" one is.

[sbatt912]

What edition do you have?

[ironmagma]

the one from virtualsheemusic dot com (sorry, youtube won't allow me to post URLs)

[sbatt912]

ahh ic. i have the francescatti edition, and its marked cadenza 12 measures after this clip starts- right after the orchestra has that little blurb after the fermata in the solo

[ironmagma]

was that to me? if it was, okay, i'll be sure to post a video ASAP. but that's beside the point, which is that this isn't actually considered the cadenza. the cadenza is earlier on.

[sbatt912]

There are two cadenzas in the first movment. The first one is quite a bit shorter than this cadenza- which is in fact the main cadenza of the first movment.

[sbatt912]

A cadenza is a virtuosic solo passage where the the soloist is free to do what he/she wants with the music while the orchestra holds a chord/note or is silent. So, it is definitly a cadenza, and it is certainly much more substantial than the first cadenza in the piece.

[ironmagma]

This isn't really even the cadenza.

[24NerF]

I'd like to see you play that u motherfucking cocksucking piece of dog shit!!!

[PietVanA]

dark? dark? well, it's in black and white.

duh

the music isn't dark by any stretch

[easilyamused976]

<33333

[waxenwings89]

holy shit.  wow.

[typicalmusiclover]

by the way 1:38 to 1:57 is the best part of the whole cadenza, just brings tears to my eyes, diminshed chords over minor chords.

[typicalmusiclover]

especially with oistrakh the way he connects those chords in his cadenza is amazing making it sound like one sound, one chord, heifetz in his recording chops it, and the depth oistrakh has fits the mood of the piece perfectly (Dark piece). Amazing.

[dagdas01]

I find most of Sibelius's stuff kinda dark...like his Symphony...which one was it...the First one...i think...ill have to look again. But that one was pretty dark.

[dagdas01]

Edit we played Finlandia which was very dark my mistake.

[typicalmusiclover]

This is just my fav. cadenza period. Hardest violin concerto and the most beautiful with one of the greatest violinists playing it, it's a winning combination. I don't think even heifetz produced that kinda sound in his recording, I think this is beyond anything i've heard.

[misterbg1]

i know only ONE person that is better than oistrakh.... Me.

[dagdas01]

You know what...go get shot or something. No one can play like that because he has his own style that no one can match.

[misterbg1]

shut up you penis, im joking, he is my favorite violinst, you penis.

[sbatt912]

im not saying anyone said anything in particular that would show little intelligence..

[sbatt912]

why do people always get into big fights in all of these amazing violin videos? if someone says something that shows how little intelligence they have, you don't have to get all pissed and be like "you know nothing!! hes amazing!! shut up!!" instead, maybe try just ignoring them?

[cattleman6420012000]

Oistrakh had the most fantastic technique. He used it as a musical tool. Never showing off. I have always loved his playing.

[KMC1986106]

JimmyErnst, modern recordings have all sorts of modifications made to them. For example, Midori's Paganini caprices have over 1000 digital modifications to correct her mistakes.

I thought Gil Shaham had great technique when I heard his recording of Saint-Saens concerto 3, then I heard him live playing Brahms with the TSO, and my goodness he goes off-tune and even stamps his feet during performance (to make it more "dramatic" I suppose)

[kaikobird]

Where did you get the Midori fact? I'd like to know, thanks.

[typicalmusiclover]

I'm sick of you friggin faggots commenting on a professional violnists player, please, like saying it's sharp and choppy what are u stupid? oistrakh is the leading violnists under heifetz, milstein etc. U wanna hear choppy and sharp go listen to WEI WEN some random asian dumbshit violinist playing this. Idiots.

[JimmyErnst]

Ilya Gringolts, Vadim Repin, Hilary Hahn, Shlomo Mintz, Leonid Kogan, Frank Peter Zimmerman, Gil Shaham all have better technique. Milstein and Kogan probably had the best technique back in the old days... but the personality and style the old masters had were amazing

[OistrakhMilstein]

and why do they have better technique? Did you actually hear all of them and Oistrakh in a concert?

[sofly09]

Hey Jimmy, I know ilya gringolts personally, and I talked to him about your comment and he laughed...it was the most ridiculous thing he's ever heard.

[OistrakhMilstein]

You are an idiot. How do you measure technique? Its also interesting to note that all the people you mentioned are skinny... Just because someone is fat does not mean that they have bad technique fucker

[JimmyErnst]

what makes him great is the fantastic bow control and unique interpretation although I do have to admit that violinists today are trained better technicaly

[OistrakhMilstein]

what the heck do you mean violinists today are trained better technically? Are you saying joshua bell has better technique than heifetz, oistrakh, or milstein?

[kaikobird]

Hilary Hahn does.

[cloverahhh]

he was sharp somewhere in minute 1 i think like 1 50 or something i cant remember, but other than that he did a great job, cept i think it was a bit choppy, and i personally dont like this peice to begin with its extremely redundant

[OistrakhMilstein]

hey everyone, I just uploaded a video of oistrakh playing first movement of sibelius concerto

[johnc92]

Hey, no one cares. It's boring. Oh wait, that was his Brahms. Oh wait, they're actually BOTH boring.

[OistrakhMilstein]

instead of criticizing one of the greatest players of all time, you should be happy that you have the privilige to even listen to such a great musician. Especially given that whether you "like" his interpretations or not, he is in all likelihood better than you or me will ever become--or can even hope to become.

[kaikobird]

I find it funny that you say this considering you degrade Heifetz on most of the videos people have uploaded.

[2ndfiddle]

Love it!! Most favorite moment is in the 2nd theme when he's up on the high C and cascading down the octaves just before the coda--he makes time stand still.

[SimonVThomsen]

nice

[mtava002]

My perfect pitch tells me he's not sharp. he's on point. what you're hearing is probably due to poor sound quality.

[misterbg1]

trust me, oistrakh is not sharp, his perfact

[jeongalex]

i have to admit, in my opinion, i think oistrakh is a tad bit sharp. maybe it is caused by the horrible quality of this video, or maybe he just tuned his violin to 442 or something

[govibe]

old recordings are generally bad, so its probably that

[carloslaran]

the piece is nordic it sounds russian he makes the piece his own.

[johnc92]

LMAO. Those bulldog cheeks are way more distracting than Vengerov. I hope no one in the orchestra got slobber all over them.

[OistrakhMilstein]

and how that is important to music is? go away

[thesloc]

It's not important. So I apologize. He's a great musician, nevertheless.

[thesloc]

It's not 'caring,' it's pointing out a fact. facts are facts.

[OistrakhMilstein]

and the reason why he has fat cheeks is important is..........?

[thesloc]

HAHA, he has fat cheeks.

[OistrakhMilstein]

only superficial retards like you would care...

[dagdas01]

I love his cheeks! I love how they shake! Seriously, I do. Especially in the Tchaikovsky concerto in D major Op. 37 (i think that is the Opus...) his cheeks are what makes that music exciting! I'm not making fun of him, i LOVE Oistrakh.  His Clair De Lune made me cry it was soo beautiful

[FoggyRoad81]

OistrakhMilstein I like your screen name because it's totally my two favorite old school violinists. I agree Stern is really nothing special. I have only heard a few of his recordings, in particular a horrid Mozart's 4th. Maybe his younger work is better, but they need to get the current stuff out of the stores. Cause those CDs are giving the guy a bad rap.

[Oyarses]

Yeah, good call. I am wondering something though. I seem to recall some rumor that his son Igor got into some trouble overseas somewhere and killed someone or something of the sort. Has anyone else heard this, or knows if it's true?

[OistrakhMilstein]

um, lets talk about Oistrakh, not isaac stern. This video is on oistrakh....

Anyways, I have this DVD, oistrakh was definately one of the best violinists that have lived

[Oyarses]

Adidas01003, stop being so hostile. I have been playing the violin since before I can remember, and I also must say I hate Joshua Bell, but I tend to agree with SamLee in regards to Stern. I have several DVDs of him live in performance and I can tell you they are hardly flawed. He did splice his recordings later, but as SamLee said, he was old.

[dagdas01]

Josh Bell *twitch twitch* must strangle him...*twitch* ruined Beethoven Concerto must kill..KILL!!!!

[FoggyRoad81]

The violin sounds like running water, a clear flowing stream, so beautiful.

[misterbg1]

OMG, oistrakh IS SOO good, But the orchestration of this concerto is SOOOO HORRIBLE.

[scotttheconquerer]

In terms of interplay between soloist and orchetra, that's very true. But at the very end when the flute plays the second theme while the soloist has those ridiculous string-crossings, it's pretty neat. And at about 4:30, that's one of my favorite passages of all time.

[misterbg1]

i agree

[emtube]

There is an interesting CD on the BIS label of both the published and original versions of this concerto. Significantly different! Sounds like Sibelius had lots of trouble writing/rewriting this piece.

Nonetheless, if you can listen non-judgmentally, I think it is emotionally very satisfying music.

[Freshmanwave]

The original version of the concerto was first played at Helsinki in 1904 (I think); Sibelius didn't like the premiere performance and decided to change it.

[ellegin88]

that was excellent i'd compare it to isaac stern but... no one can beat isaac stern ;-)

[adidas01003]

isaac stern sucks....or sucked...

[SamLee0519]

Don't make stupid, immature statements. I would love to see you play better. Otherwise, keep your mouth shut.

[adidas01003]

anyone can be better than isaac stern...sure he was musical, but all of his recordings are products of splicing...just like joshua bell...if you dont believe me you can ask any professional...what i say is the truth...no one considered isaac stern to be a world class violinist, and there is a good reason for it...his technique was flawed

[SamLee0519]

You've gotta be kidding me. You've obviously heard only his recordings when he was over 60 years old. Obviously, his technique declined.

You also haven't seen his live recordings either. Isaac stern was a great violinist.

[adidas01003]

he plays out of tune...bad tone...what can i say?

[Freshmanwave]

It is called colour, one key element of Stern; sometimes a violinist like Ginette Neveu would deliberately play off tune a bit to add a hint. You have to know that different frequencies of the same note provide different hints in the background.

[adidas01003]

his early live recordings are not at the quality of oistrakh or milstein or any of these great violinist we've had in the past. youre just listening to what these other people say and just regurgitating the bullshit they come up with...get your own opinion of music and then tell me what you think...you obviously arent a musician

[thurizaz]

Amazing! I haven't heard Oistrakh played the Sibelius before. If you have anymore clips with Oistrakh, please upload them!