Keating and Hawke will go down as the great PM's. The introduction of Super, float of the dollar and other reforms as the vid alluded to are with the mining boom the reason Australia is so well placed. Howard introduced a GST, which people often say was just a tax on this and that but it was substantial.
Gillard isn't bad her salesmanship is. A reckless stimulus package will be Rudd's legacy. In 10 years time the carbon tax will be viewed very positively. She will go down well in history.
The stimulus package actually worked, school scheme 97% efficient, and it got money into circulation as private spending was about to collapse. Despite problems, the insulation scheme will pay of in the long term.
These are just some of the achievements Gillard has been behind.
If she looses office, then maybe when the heat has died down, just like Keating was far more hated by the Libs than Gillard is (I do remember), the remaining question:
Will they apologise? Maybe the bravest PM of all ?
If what Abbott says about Keating, would he be so comfortable if Gillard hangs on enough and leave a legacy of EMS, getting a resources return for the Australian people, exposing the glamour of smoking tobacco, night access to doctors via phone, NBN that will revolutionise health, industry and entertainment (a BIG business), Gittens description that stimulus of the economy was mostly masterly, lifting min wage tax to $18,000, outlawing shonky lending practices, 1st nation-wide health agreeement.
@GanEdenAustralia Watch tony abbott on kerry obrien and just have a look how honest phoney tony is. Julia has never lied. just circumstances changed her stance and chose to act. but you can hear tony lie constantly about different issues. i have never seen caught out lieing once ever. and you wont she is to damn honest. and gentle and a beautiful woman up against a lieing redneck who has so called comvictions yeah roghto i dont see em..
@likeagrin You need to look a lot more wider than the 2 party politics. Lib and Lab and mrely puppets. Its the bankers pulling the strings. ALL politician are NEVER to be trusted. Gillard has lied.
@GanEdenAustralia No gillard has never lied. show some proof. you cant there is no lie. people will mislead and distort the facts and make out she is a liar but dont even need to see the proof. we have proof of tonys lies watch kerry obrian on tony abbotts caught out lieing. You wont catch julia in this position . as there are no REAL lies just a distortion. and dumb people like you will believe it.
@GanEdenAustralia No she did not. She had a different stance before the election with a majority. her stance was to have an emissions trading scheme. she could not have predicted a hung parliment. s she psycic you fool. no. when she got a minority government she had to negotiate a deal and this was it. like it or not there was no loe and no misinformation just different outcomes than were predicted. full fucking stop
Libs 'stopped the boats'. Rudd changed the policy, now we are opening/building new housing for illegal immigrants and the BS "TIMOR SOLUTION" touted at the last election is a farce. As Australians will need to pay MORE TAX and get LESS SERVICES as expected in the new budget, I expect that there will be increase funding for illegal immigration .... you are now working for illegal immigrants. Despite our opposing political views, we may surely bump into each other at 4.30am on Monday morning.
Even when the Liberals themselves admit that they own a ton to the previous labor government their supporters simply can't bring themselves to see it. That pretty much sums up why Liberals should never ever be allowed to govern because they are to good at living in denial.
@LABORISTOXIC Had Keating not done the things he did Australia would of been alot worse off through the 90's. Howard himself adimts the while he constantly attacked Labor over interest rates Keating did the right thing by uncapping them. The worst thing about Libs is their totally inability to see the facts like the fact that the early 90's was horrible the world over and Australia was never going to escape the trouble no matter who was in power. Lib supporters have zero credibility.
@taipan185 No ....... Laborasauruses have no credibity!!! It is so easy to spend money you do not have!!!! Just wait until you see the overestimation of revenues by Labor in the current Budget!!!
@LABORISTOXIC Just another blind self centered Lib. Libs are as Un-Australian as you can get because everything is about themselves and how they can benefit and screw everyone else. You're all scum and someone needs to put a bullet in each and everyone of you. If a Libs could fine away to live high on the hog but it caused everyone around them to suffer a very low quality of life they'd do it in a heartbeat.
@taipan185 ...... You are so ignorant!!!! I am one of nine chilrden, I went to Labor marches with my father and I have struggled through life. I used to vote Labor ..... then I grew up!!! What I have noticed throughout my life is continual damnation of this country by Labor Governments ...... Gough, Hawke, Keating, Rudd, Gillard, Beattie, Bligh. Labor was great but now they only do what is populist, as they will say and do anything to stay in power ...... even mortgage your children's future.
@LABORISTOXIC I'd still rather that than being sold into slavery by a Liberal government. Bottom line with Libs is that the guy on teh street is just a means for Libs to live a better life, we are just cattle to those pieces of shit. As for politics in general all parties play the bullshit game of vote winning by doing what is seen as being popular just look at the Libs and the treatment of the boat people picked up by the Tampa. Pretty nice timing before an election for the Libs wasn't it.
@taipan185 ....... Fool ...... you do not even understand slavery, I witnessed it in Africa so please do not beg to be sold into it. A pathetic statement!!! Also ..... the Tampa was sunk by the illegal immigrants with children on board, just like they set fire to a boat recently killing some and wounding many. I know people who worked in the area ........ most of these people wealthy and are economic refugees. I grew up, maybe you should too!!!
@LABORISTOXIC firstly, Who is begging to be sold into slavery? Second, Do you even fucking know what the Tampa is? The Tampa wasn't sunk dumbass it was the ship that picked up the refugees. Way to get yoursel fwell inform (typical fucking Lib). I don't care about refugees one bit they can fuck off back to where they come from however there is no denying the Libs exploited the shit out of that incident for their own political gain. Typical Lib trading in human misery for their own personal gain.
@LABORISTOXIC You think you know so much you can start by looking up what the Tampa is. Pretty obvious you don't really pay much attention to what the facts are in a story you just like all Libs are headline grabbing selfcentered self important assholes.
@taipan185 ....... as morons go, you are right up there at the top ..... you must have great pleasure in watching illegal immigrants burning down Australian facilities when over 100,000 Australians sleep rough every night. Yes ...... people like you disgust me!!!! You live in your little glass house enclosed in a vacuum of ignorance. You don't have to worry about being sold into slavery .... your life is slavery .... your lies emancipate you tighter than shackles on the walls of Elmina Castle
@taipan185 And look at the Labor Legacy ....... Gough, Hawke, Keating, Rudd, Gillard, Beattie, Bligh ...... you want slavery ....... there is your list of slave-drivers. Slavery by debt and economic mismanagement!!!
@LABORISTOXIC See this is how fucking stupid lib supporters are. Howard himself said that after the issues of the early 90's Keating did the right thing by un capping rates. Ok you keeping up so far? Howard the Liberal Prime minister saying the former Labor prime minister did the right thing. See this si why Lib supporters are seen as stupid cunts by the rest of Australia they can never admit anything good about the otherside of politics even when it's obvious thus making themselves look stupid.
@LABORISTOXIC As for the salvery thing.... nothing in the last 50 years would of sold the average aussie into slavery as quickly as Work choices which wa championed by the LIBs. Howard the scumbag would of had the average aussie worker living on his/her knees begging for scraps from each eomplyers table.
@taipan185 You are such an absolute idiot .... you know that .... ABSOLUTE IDIOT .... I__D__I__O__T. SCUMBAG UNIONISTS WHO BELIEVE THAT THEIR EMPLOYERS OWE THEM A LIVING!!!! Guess what d!ckhead ....... THEY DON'T!!!! And they are leaving Australia in droves. I tell you what ...... put your money where your mouth is ..... mortgage your house and buy a business, then hire a couple of your UNION MATES. See how long you last. You are gutless pathetic dog who thinks that the world owes them a living
@LABORISTOXIC Suck it up fagot you wouldn't have shit if it wasn't for the working class. Fucking parasites the lot of you feeding on the hard work of the average aussie while trying to fuck them over every which way you can. All anyone wants is to be able to make a fair days pay for a fair days work and come home safe. Yet history is littered with companies that constantly and blantantly put their employees at risk. Where do you get gutless from you parasitic dog cunt? I did my time serving Au
@taipan185 Tony abbott is toxic. and a liar. You are also toxic if you vote for a redneck liar. that is a bully boy. julia is a beautiful honest woman.
@taipan185 Meanwhile you are paying for the reconstruction of a $400M complex that was burnt to the ground by illegal immigrants ...... THANKS TO OUR MORONIC GOVERNMENT!!!!
@LABORISTOXIC So how have you served this great country of ours? I did my time how about you? Btw just to make this clear again I DON'T support handling refugees with kid gloves I would be happier if they were turned right back around and sent back to what ever shithole they came from. However the Libs only talk shit about dealing with the problem to score cheap points with the public and they never actually do anything. I am not saying labor is any better in that department either.
@LABORISTOXIC yep I do agree absolutely on that point. Quite frankly I have always been of the opinion if you go to another country you have an obligation to earn your right to be there. If a refugee steps out of line while being held as an illegal then they should be up for instance deportation..... no second chances. If they are serious about being here and the idea of living in Australia is that important to them then they will behave themselves or else.
@LABORISTOXIC Yeah I noticed, I am currently in the USA but I am keeping up on what doing, It's fucking ridiculous. They need to put those fuckers in chains like they do any other criminals and sending back to what ever shithole they came from.
@LABORISTOXIC Ypu are toxic. You will lie and distort just like your mate tony abbott . you are a complete idiot. and a moron. just like your favorite leader.
@theblackash (Part1 ) .... do you realise that the current budget had a $10B hole in revenue in December .... only a few months after an election. Worse is to come!!! Morons like you are dime a dozen!!! You can't think for yourselves ... it is that simple!!! You listen to idiotic journalists, that have no understanding of economics, engineering, science or environment, who simply regurgitate Labor rhetoric and call it 'journalism simply because, like you, they cannot separate truth from fiction
@theblackash (Part 2) A classic example of this was the other night when the 6.30 report blatantly distorted the truth about the impact of a Carbon Tax on New Zealand. They reported that there was no impact when the truth was there was and is a lot of pain. Unfortunately this was regurgited by people like you the following day as truth, while it was seen as a plain obfuscation by people who actually know what is happening within the NZ Economy.
(Part 3) Australia's Carbon Tax is $AU23/tonne while New Zealand' was $NZ15/tonne (or approximately $AU12/tonne. Meanwhile Minimum wage NZ is $13.00, Aust is 15.51. Meanwhile Petrol is $2.00/L, Butter $9.98/kg, Milk 2,33/L, Bread $3.79 (700g Loaf), Chicken Drumsticks $8.99/kg .... the list goes on!!! Meanwhile electricity costs are going through the roof ..... most of which is supplied by hydrodams
Keating and Hawke will go down as the great PM's. The introduction of Super, float of the dollar and other reforms as the vid alluded to are with the mining boom the reason Australia is so well placed. Howard introduced a GST, which people often say was just a tax on this and that but it was substantial.
Gillard isn't bad her salesmanship is. A reckless stimulus package will be Rudd's legacy. In 10 years time the carbon tax will be viewed very positively. She will go down well in history.
MrLiamioregan 6 months ago
The stimulus package actually worked, school scheme 97% efficient, and it got money into circulation as private spending was about to collapse. Despite problems, the insulation scheme will pay of in the long term.
These are just some of the achievements Gillard has been behind.
If she looses office, then maybe when the heat has died down, just like Keating was far more hated by the Libs than Gillard is (I do remember), the remaining question:
Will they apologise? Maybe the bravest PM of all ?
younot2funny 6 months ago
If what Abbott says about Keating, would he be so comfortable if Gillard hangs on enough and leave a legacy of EMS, getting a resources return for the Australian people, exposing the glamour of smoking tobacco, night access to doctors via phone, NBN that will revolutionise health, industry and entertainment (a BIG business), Gittens description that stimulus of the economy was mostly masterly, lifting min wage tax to $18,000, outlawing shonky lending practices, 1st nation-wide health agreeement.
younot2funny 6 months ago
apart from the GST which is a leveling of the tax system, what did Howard and Costello do in terms of economic reform??
bigswano 6 months ago
Fucks the greens and liebor off
GanEdenAustralia 7 months ago
@GanEdenAustralia Watch tony abbott on kerry obrien and just have a look how honest phoney tony is. Julia has never lied. just circumstances changed her stance and chose to act. but you can hear tony lie constantly about different issues. i have never seen caught out lieing once ever. and you wont she is to damn honest. and gentle and a beautiful woman up against a lieing redneck who has so called comvictions yeah roghto i dont see em..
likeagrin 7 months ago
@likeagrin You need to look a lot more wider than the 2 party politics. Lib and Lab and mrely puppets. Its the bankers pulling the strings. ALL politician are NEVER to be trusted. Gillard has lied.
GanEdenAustralia 7 months ago
@GanEdenAustralia No gillard has never lied. show some proof. you cant there is no lie. people will mislead and distort the facts and make out she is a liar but dont even need to see the proof. we have proof of tonys lies watch kerry obrian on tony abbotts caught out lieing. You wont catch julia in this position . as there are no REAL lies just a distortion. and dumb people like you will believe it.
theblackash 7 months ago
@GanEdenAustralia No she did not. She had a different stance before the election with a majority. her stance was to have an emissions trading scheme. she could not have predicted a hung parliment. s she psycic you fool. no. when she got a minority government she had to negotiate a deal and this was it. like it or not there was no loe and no misinformation just different outcomes than were predicted. full fucking stop
likeagrin 7 months ago
Libs 'stopped the boats'. Rudd changed the policy, now we are opening/building new housing for illegal immigrants and the BS "TIMOR SOLUTION" touted at the last election is a farce. As Australians will need to pay MORE TAX and get LESS SERVICES as expected in the new budget, I expect that there will be increase funding for illegal immigration .... you are now working for illegal immigrants. Despite our opposing political views, we may surely bump into each other at 4.30am on Monday morning.
LABORISTOXIC 10 months ago
Even when the Liberals themselves admit that they own a ton to the previous labor government their supporters simply can't bring themselves to see it. That pretty much sums up why Liberals should never ever be allowed to govern because they are to good at living in denial.
taipan185 11 months ago
so johnny rode the wave of success after keating eh?
MrSystematica 11 months ago
@MrSystematica ......... yeah the $96B Debt and $10B Deficit that Labor left behind!!!
LABORISTOXIC 11 months ago
@LABORISTOXIC Had Keating not done the things he did Australia would of been alot worse off through the 90's. Howard himself adimts the while he constantly attacked Labor over interest rates Keating did the right thing by uncapping them. The worst thing about Libs is their totally inability to see the facts like the fact that the early 90's was horrible the world over and Australia was never going to escape the trouble no matter who was in power. Lib supporters have zero credibility.
taipan185 11 months ago
@taipan185 No ....... Laborasauruses have no credibity!!! It is so easy to spend money you do not have!!!! Just wait until you see the overestimation of revenues by Labor in the current Budget!!!
LABORISTOXIC 10 months ago
@LABORISTOXIC Just another blind self centered Lib. Libs are as Un-Australian as you can get because everything is about themselves and how they can benefit and screw everyone else. You're all scum and someone needs to put a bullet in each and everyone of you. If a Libs could fine away to live high on the hog but it caused everyone around them to suffer a very low quality of life they'd do it in a heartbeat.
taipan185 10 months ago
@taipan185 ...... You are so ignorant!!!! I am one of nine chilrden, I went to Labor marches with my father and I have struggled through life. I used to vote Labor ..... then I grew up!!! What I have noticed throughout my life is continual damnation of this country by Labor Governments ...... Gough, Hawke, Keating, Rudd, Gillard, Beattie, Bligh. Labor was great but now they only do what is populist, as they will say and do anything to stay in power ...... even mortgage your children's future.
LABORISTOXIC 10 months ago
@LABORISTOXIC I'd still rather that than being sold into slavery by a Liberal government. Bottom line with Libs is that the guy on teh street is just a means for Libs to live a better life, we are just cattle to those pieces of shit. As for politics in general all parties play the bullshit game of vote winning by doing what is seen as being popular just look at the Libs and the treatment of the boat people picked up by the Tampa. Pretty nice timing before an election for the Libs wasn't it.
taipan185 10 months ago
@taipan185 ....... Fool ...... you do not even understand slavery, I witnessed it in Africa so please do not beg to be sold into it. A pathetic statement!!! Also ..... the Tampa was sunk by the illegal immigrants with children on board, just like they set fire to a boat recently killing some and wounding many. I know people who worked in the area ........ most of these people wealthy and are economic refugees. I grew up, maybe you should too!!!
LABORISTOXIC 10 months ago
@LABORISTOXIC firstly, Who is begging to be sold into slavery? Second, Do you even fucking know what the Tampa is? The Tampa wasn't sunk dumbass it was the ship that picked up the refugees. Way to get yoursel fwell inform (typical fucking Lib). I don't care about refugees one bit they can fuck off back to where they come from however there is no denying the Libs exploited the shit out of that incident for their own political gain. Typical Lib trading in human misery for their own personal gain.
taipan185 10 months ago
@LABORISTOXIC You think you know so much you can start by looking up what the Tampa is. Pretty obvious you don't really pay much attention to what the facts are in a story you just like all Libs are headline grabbing selfcentered self important assholes.
taipan185 10 months ago
@taipan185 ....... as morons go, you are right up there at the top ..... you must have great pleasure in watching illegal immigrants burning down Australian facilities when over 100,000 Australians sleep rough every night. Yes ...... people like you disgust me!!!! You live in your little glass house enclosed in a vacuum of ignorance. You don't have to worry about being sold into slavery .... your life is slavery .... your lies emancipate you tighter than shackles on the walls of Elmina Castle
LABORISTOXIC 10 months ago
@taipan185 And look at the Labor Legacy ....... Gough, Hawke, Keating, Rudd, Gillard, Beattie, Bligh ...... you want slavery ....... there is your list of slave-drivers. Slavery by debt and economic mismanagement!!!
LABORISTOXIC 10 months ago
@LABORISTOXIC See this is how fucking stupid lib supporters are. Howard himself said that after the issues of the early 90's Keating did the right thing by un capping rates. Ok you keeping up so far? Howard the Liberal Prime minister saying the former Labor prime minister did the right thing. See this si why Lib supporters are seen as stupid cunts by the rest of Australia they can never admit anything good about the otherside of politics even when it's obvious thus making themselves look stupid.
taipan185 10 months ago
@LABORISTOXIC As for the salvery thing.... nothing in the last 50 years would of sold the average aussie into slavery as quickly as Work choices which wa championed by the LIBs. Howard the scumbag would of had the average aussie worker living on his/her knees begging for scraps from each eomplyers table.
taipan185 10 months ago
@taipan185 You are such an absolute idiot .... you know that .... ABSOLUTE IDIOT .... I__D__I__O__T. SCUMBAG UNIONISTS WHO BELIEVE THAT THEIR EMPLOYERS OWE THEM A LIVING!!!! Guess what d!ckhead ....... THEY DON'T!!!! And they are leaving Australia in droves. I tell you what ...... put your money where your mouth is ..... mortgage your house and buy a business, then hire a couple of your UNION MATES. See how long you last. You are gutless pathetic dog who thinks that the world owes them a living
LABORISTOXIC 10 months ago
@LABORISTOXIC Suck it up fagot you wouldn't have shit if it wasn't for the working class. Fucking parasites the lot of you feeding on the hard work of the average aussie while trying to fuck them over every which way you can. All anyone wants is to be able to make a fair days pay for a fair days work and come home safe. Yet history is littered with companies that constantly and blantantly put their employees at risk. Where do you get gutless from you parasitic dog cunt? I did my time serving Au
taipan185 10 months ago
@taipan185 Tony abbott is toxic. and a liar. You are also toxic if you vote for a redneck liar. that is a bully boy. julia is a beautiful honest woman.
likeagrin 7 months ago
@likeagrin Why are you telling me this?? Where did I say I support those scum the libs? I utterly dispise the liberals I always have.
taipan185 7 months ago
@taipan185 Meanwhile you are paying for the reconstruction of a $400M complex that was burnt to the ground by illegal immigrants ...... THANKS TO OUR MORONIC GOVERNMENT!!!!
LABORISTOXIC 10 months ago
@LABORISTOXIC So how have you served this great country of ours? I did my time how about you? Btw just to make this clear again I DON'T support handling refugees with kid gloves I would be happier if they were turned right back around and sent back to what ever shithole they came from. However the Libs only talk shit about dealing with the problem to score cheap points with the public and they never actually do anything. I am not saying labor is any better in that department either.
taipan185 10 months ago
@taipan185 .......
LABORISTOXIC 10 months ago
@taipan185 ....... at least we share the same opinion about one thing ....... IN AUSTRALIA, AUSTRALIANS COME FIRST!!!!
LABORISTOXIC 10 months ago
@LABORISTOXIC yep I do agree absolutely on that point. Quite frankly I have always been of the opinion if you go to another country you have an obligation to earn your right to be there. If a refugee steps out of line while being held as an illegal then they should be up for instance deportation..... no second chances. If they are serious about being here and the idea of living in Australia is that important to them then they will behave themselves or else.
taipan185 10 months ago
@taipan185 ...... and now Villawood burns!!!
LABORISTOXIC 10 months ago
@LABORISTOXIC Yeah I noticed, I am currently in the USA but I am keeping up on what doing, It's fucking ridiculous. They need to put those fuckers in chains like they do any other criminals and sending back to what ever shithole they came from.
taipan185 10 months ago
@LABORISTOXIC Ypu are toxic. You will lie and distort just like your mate tony abbott . you are a complete idiot. and a moron. just like your favorite leader.
theblackash 7 months ago
@theblackash (Part1 ) .... do you realise that the current budget had a $10B hole in revenue in December .... only a few months after an election. Worse is to come!!! Morons like you are dime a dozen!!! You can't think for yourselves ... it is that simple!!! You listen to idiotic journalists, that have no understanding of economics, engineering, science or environment, who simply regurgitate Labor rhetoric and call it 'journalism simply because, like you, they cannot separate truth from fiction
LABORISTOXIC 7 months ago
@theblackash (Part 2) A classic example of this was the other night when the 6.30 report blatantly distorted the truth about the impact of a Carbon Tax on New Zealand. They reported that there was no impact when the truth was there was and is a lot of pain. Unfortunately this was regurgited by people like you the following day as truth, while it was seen as a plain obfuscation by people who actually know what is happening within the NZ Economy.
LABORISTOXIC 7 months ago
(Part 3) Australia's Carbon Tax is $AU23/tonne while New Zealand' was $NZ15/tonne (or approximately $AU12/tonne. Meanwhile Minimum wage NZ is $13.00, Aust is 15.51. Meanwhile Petrol is $2.00/L, Butter $9.98/kg, Milk 2,33/L, Bread $3.79 (700g Loaf), Chicken Drumsticks $8.99/kg .... the list goes on!!! Meanwhile electricity costs are going through the roof ..... most of which is supplied by hydrodams
LABORISTOXIC 7 months ago
@MrSystematica exactly.
likeagrin 7 months ago