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  • Ironically, if Derren never made a mistake throughout his whole career, I'd suspect foulplay and probably wouldn't believe that he was naturally talented. This one mistake puts my faith back in him and reassures me that his work isn't just smoke and mirrors, and is genuine human achievement. I have a lot of respect for him!

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  • why does he change a £5k chip to 10 500s? to cue the guy spining

  • This makes me love Derren even more!

    Strange, but true.

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  • If it was real, then oh well, does it really matter? That's like the only thing he has got wrong - he's still truely talented :')

    If it was fake, then well played and good actors xD

  • @mrmoo232 I think you mean impossible, creating a program itself would be incredibly difficult and you'd have to take into account any imperfections in the wheel itself and god knows what else. Why do you assume its not staged? Because hes not right? A slightly wrong prediction will just make people percieve his other cheap tricks as credible.

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  • Like he says in the full program, a computer would be able to predict where the ball is goin to land without any problems by calculating the speed of the ball and the wheel and at which number was at the top of the wheel when the ball was initially launched. Its physics at the end of the day, not much different from predicting the location of the planets 100 years from now just on a much smaller & faster scale. To do it in your mind is nothing short of genious

  • @mrmoo232 It's like a double pendulum. A pretty simple system which is very, I mean very sensitive to the initial conditions. I think calculating the trajectory of the ball would be pretty hard even in a laboratory. But in a real world situation it is completely and utterly impossible.

  • Of course u can bet 5000

  • Why is there so many people claiming to teach how to beat the wheel?

    Do they profit from these teachings?

  • Name a casino in the world that would allow you to make a straight up 5,000 bet. Not even in vegas. Fake/staged as per usual.

  • He did it on purpose so he doesn't win and the casino doesn't have to play

  • Im glad he's human after all. If he would've got this right he must be from out of space.

  • His face lol

  • if he missed on purpose or failed doesnt matter it was still a great show and did some anazing things just the fact the guy cant remember that he gave him 5k is awsome

  • Derren rarely outright lies without revealing it later on - according to experts, it's possible to predict the outcome to a small section but not to a specific slot.

  • Anyone thinking this is anything but a massive deliberate anti-climax for comic effect has completely misunderstood the situation.

    I admit I wasn't sure what to make of it at first, but I soon decided it was actually hilarious.

  • Not as good as the stuff in the Mindreading Exposed ebook

  • Like mazotu said, he was meant to miss. The casino is clearly not real and if they he hit they would have to pay out 175k so obviously they don't want that. Like mazotu said, by missing by 1 number it makes people think that it must of been real because it has 'gone wrong'. It's very clever from Derren and a lot of you people in the comments fell for it.

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  • I love Derren, People who say it's fake etc can really suck balls.

    He is a trickster, but they are real tricks.

    And there is actually a legit way of guessing the location the ball will drop. Usually computerised, but if practised enough it can be done in the head.

    Derren has proven to do crazy things with his brain, it's not all magical stuff here. This video is Mathematics and Physics.

    And no matter how famous you are, this is illegal. Clearly the owner knew what he was going to attempt before.

  • @HardstyleMatt

    There is no way of figuring where the ball will drop in your head, it is not possible, imagine all the variables like friction and weight of the table, momentum of the smaller ball and all the rotation in opposite ways. So many things to figure, and in a circle with continually decreasing speed...? I dont think its possible...

  • @headphones222 It is possible, And many people have proven they can do it, but it's extremely hard. There are people out there called Savants who are extremely clever. People have an intelligence level on a wide scale, along with arithmatic skills etc. People who practice something enough can learn almost anything. And of course, learning approx where the ball will land in roulette is one of those skills. Usually done by professionals who work with roulette wheels.

  • @HardstyleMatt

    What you mean by extremely hard is they hardly ever get it right, out of luck hahahaha

    Having studies mathematics, to still not a very high level yet, I can tell you, it would be almost impossible to predict where the ball will go as it would even depend on how hard the dealer launches the ball and other things you can even control.

  • In my opinion Derren Brown is one of the best entertainer and illusionist there is going. The things he comes up with for shows and things are amazing like ways of convincing people he has one the lottery. The explanations he gives may be false but that's the beauty of it. Some believe. Some don't. It just adds to the excitement of how he actually does it and he makes terrific tv!

  • lol i remember when i watched this live, i was like.. ohh shit lol

  • if you watch the full episode, derren says his in a casino in europe. the uk is the only conutry in europe that uses the pound. derren have five thousand pounds. in the casino he puts down five thousand which would have to be in euros

    5,000.00 EUR = 4,394.97 GBP

  • Please Post Me Some Numbers...!

  • Well that... was a waste of 1:33 minutes of my life.

  • @ 1:29 see the guy with the big cheque HaHa.

  • @aaronjizzinmypants Haha, I never noticed that before. Good spot!

  • The guys pissed off

  • Why spend a year? Its easier to make a tv show and say you spent a year and have the audience take your word for it and also believe everything you do is credible because they want to believe it. Oh, thats what he did..

  • U have to admit that was fucking close tho! 1 out!

  • mentalists in general don't like the word "trick" cuz there is a good portion of what we do that isn't fake, i mean we may purposely tell some one it's mind reading cuz mind control freaks a lot of people out or we may use Ekmans style mind reading but some effects are impossible to fail because of how the effect, works or a gimmick but for some effects it's easy to fail, like using nlp based effects if the Mark isn't not paying attention it can royally fail

  • @Britestone

    you're mental alright

  • @Britestone lol what a fucking loser just watching 1 mind freak episode doesnt make u a mentalist

  • "I've spent a year learning to beat it"

    ...Well you wasted a year of your life then didn't you.

  • hahaha "Ben, don't worry we'll give you the 5 grand back". I should fucking hope so!!

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  • he failed it on purpose XP

  • 'Dont worry we're gonna give your 5 grand back'

    LOL, the guy shit himself ;)

  • so annoying, he was ONE away.

  • This is the funniest thing I have ever seen

  • he was 1 number away from the 8, the ball landed on next number to 8, fkn amazing!

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  • There is no magic involved here, Darren studied the trajectory of items and how they land as they travel through the air, and after becoming confident he could successfully predict the outcome of a roulette wheel he was so close to get one out. I admire him for doing this and getting so close, to all the people saying this is bullshit or crap, simply, fuck you!

  • @MrSuperTevez

    Lol sure he did rocket science in his head. Why isn't he working for NASA?

  • @dycarbon1 Because unfortunately NASA don't specialise in predicting the outcome of roulette wheels. I'm sure he'd be all over that shit if they did

  • @MrSuperTevez

    I'm not going to add anything at this point lol. If you actually think he is able to utilize PHYSICS and CALCULATE the trajectory of the roulette ball using equations, you can believe in anything. Hey, I didn't catch him take into account the mass or volume of the ball or the curvature of the wheel or the force exerted by the dealer's hand, oh but maybe he can SEE all those variables with his EYES! Like he said: showmanship mixed with misdirection. Read his book, it explains a lot.

  • @dycarbon1 So what are you saying this is all fake?

  • @MrSuperTevez

    No, I'm saying Derren is an entertainer, and as an entertainer it is in his best interest to create the illusion of massively outrageous feats using means that would otherwise make him appear a lot less impressive. Mind you I'm not saying that he CAN'T have done it all in his head. I just wouldn't buy everything a guy in a goatee and trench coat sells me, especially someone who has openly acknowledged to the use of misdirection to maximise effect.

  • P.S did you actually watch this stunt? I didnt say he would use equations and all that complicated stuff. He just explained that studying the trajectory successfully can predict the outcome of where an object would land. We all do it in everyday sports, for examples footballers in football, and Cricket, for example where a player needs to go so he will catch the ball. In the clip on TV Derren practiced with a large dice in a squash court and got most right. Are you saying that was all rubbish?

  • @dycarbon1 How else does one recognize variable values other than visual observation...

    Just because he didn't use a paper doesn't mean his brain didn't calculate...The brain ESTIMATES the values and uses the same equation we've learned to express with symbols. Brain doesn't need those symbols...this is what the brain is made to do!

    The mass and curvature are fixed values, NEVER CHANGE. The only two variable are ball speed and Wheel speed. You can't deny our brain approximates well...

  • @pdderek You forgot air currents and microscopic imprefections on the wood, metal and ball. When the ball is first spun, these variables could determine the ball landing on the complete oposite side of the wheel. Think about it, a slight air current could slow the ball 0.01mph hense a varied first contact with the metal. This would undoubtably change the landing of the ball.

  • @MrSuperTevez Your like a little fish

  • @Rogerio34567 Haha yeah, and judging by your past comments and recent history your an uneducated little moron. Grow the fuck up, your not funny and no one likes you.

  • If he leaves anything to chance then it wouldnt be a good show! It must be what he planned

  • A lot of bullshit on youtube...people selling roulette sistems...yah sure. I've spent 500e for a real software not a crappy pdf or a roulette betting tool. Can't buy somthing real for less money.

  • How do people know he failed on purpose?

  • @Roenazarrek

    1: It's very much illegal to document yourself cheating and to take cameras into casinos.

    2: The casino is very quiet and empty. This is obviously a closed or fake casino.

    3: Everything that Derren does is a trick, predicting the lottery is one example from this series.

    4: Derren's tricks do not go wrong. This one, went perfectly.

    5: It makes sense that he wanted to fail, the trick was that he was 1 away, which is still impressive and also makes the series more believable.

  • @mazotu 4: Derren's tricks do not go wrong. This one, went perfectly.

    Indeed. If he had picked the correct number, they would have a huge debt to pay the man they "borrowed" money from, since they are not in a real casino.

  • @mazotu watch his live shows

  • @HeavyArm0ur Yeah I've seen them... How come?

  • @mazotu His method wasn't cheating though. Just as Card counting at Blackjack is NOT cheating but casinos just don't want you doing it and will remove anyone they think is doing it. As is it NOT illegal to film yourself in a casino. they will ask you to leave, but they have no legal grounds against anyone who got away with doing it in secret. It's also impossible to see how busy the casino is based on those shots, all you can see is one roulette table, bear in mind this wasn't in Vegas.

  • @mazotu i think your right ... no casino in the world would allow him in to do that .. they promised the poor kunt that he would win 175K

    i'd punch Derren straight in the face for that

  • @coolbluezzzz Well, I don't think any casino would buy that he can predict where the ball will land based on its rate of motion. That's impossible for the human eye. Even Derrens.

  • @mazotu

    You clearly dont know anything about this stunt Derren did, the person who's money he bet was given a full refund. Additionally he himself did say it was very hard finding a casino prepared to allow cameras to film even small portions of the table.

  • @mazotu

    In other ones like the system, you dont know if the BBC is just financial supporting it, betting on every horse for her and giving the winnings so she thinks Derren has some amazing ability.

  • @mazotu i think he was 1 out just to prove a point that hes right but he has to be wrong just to cover his sen and not win anything by cheating, Its just too ironic thats hes 1 out to me bet he could be right if he wanted to.

  • @drinkmyjames Well it's a trick. There's no way he can guess where it's going to land. No way at all.

  • @Roenazarrek

    Also you can tell that the end is set up and staged the guy working for BBC is a bad actor.

    In all, this trick was a success. He tricked 99% percent of us that he is 'magic'.

  • yeah because if he failled in a bid to make a viewer 175k he'd put it on tele. It's a trick. Everything Derren does is a trick. He admits this. He "failled" on purpose. The trick was him being 1 away

  • He Ballsed it up...

  • at @1:31 you can see a him with a check left to the van, it was all done on purpose because there be riots if he had won

  • I wonder whic garage this was shot in

  • I wonder which garage this was shot in

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  • "magic, suggestion, psychology, misdirection and showmanship"

    ok good so far, but where is his famous claim: "At no point are actors or stooges used in the show"?

  • @entaroduai I've often thought about that statement. He tells you one minute that he IS going to misdirect you, the VERY next line tells you that 'no actors or stooges are used' Could it be that this is his first mis-direction?? Or do we believe he is telling the truth? Don't get me wrong, I think the guy is a genius, but he makes no bones about being honest in his dishonesty.

  • That guy looks pissed!

  • I think this was on purpose.. I just watched "Mind Control Series 1 Episode 3" .. He puts his money on number 22, What does it land on? 18........ Next to 22..

  • It's a possibility that he deliberately failed, to make his other shows more believable/make people believe they're not fixed.. I dunno though, maybe he was just unlucky..

    I watched this, and then the credits came, and I was like "Wtf?"..

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  • oh man one out fuck

  • the ending:

    producer: ben... ben...

    ben (half dead): yeah?

    producer: we're going to get your money back. dont worry

    ben: ok ("dont worry" "dont worry"? you dont want me to fucking worry? i spent a decade collecting that money now you waste it on a russian roulette. what bastards)

    ok no probs...

  • @b11k22 It's not russian roulette..

  • @b11k22 No, this is just normal roulette. Russian roulette runs the risk of blowing your brains out. Although, coincidentally, Derren has also done a russian roulette trick before.

  • this was awesome. no one can do it like this fucker. i love all his shows and watch everything!!!

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  • If you think he messed up then he got you nicely.

    The whole point was to get as close as possible!

    3 reasons:

    1. By not getting it and missing by just one... it suggest his method IS the explanation to the trick but he was just unlucky...

    2. Last thing he needs to be seen as is "Derren Brown, the guy who can make you easy money"!

    3. If the method he presented WAS the real explanation... you think he wouldn't be in a casino now clearing house?!

    It was a trick cloaked to look like skill

  • At least it shows he ain't a fake! I also saw some '30's throughout the show so maybe he knew or something. :3

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  • at least it shows that he isn't a fake

  • i felt soo bad for him, everything else worked apart from this

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  • lol

  • Jeeze you guys are all so stupid. He failed this on purpose..

  • @mazotu I came on this video just to say this. Damn you.

  • @ThatLuckieDuckie No Sir, damn you.

  • @mazotu Okay.

  • @mazotu why did he fail it on purpose?

  • @mazotu why does he fail it on purpose