According to Kojima's original story they were killed in a crossfire by Solidus with rebels in the Liberian Civil war. They were caught in the crossfire, though Solidus took the blame. He also took Raiden in and saved his life. So in a way he wasn't particularly evil His methods were ruthless due to his beliefs as a warrior. That does not excuse what he did, but it does explain it. He wanted to destroy the Patriots, no matter the cost.
@MysticalWizardMerlin By your standard, the founder fathers were no less evil. It's all a mater of perception. Most heroes, and sincere leaders, kings, and revolutionaries have violent and spotty pasts. It comes with the title and responsibility. They're warriors, this is the nature of man. He was a hero that sacrificed and risked his master seat of power being the president, and the figurehead of Patriots. He risked it all to liberate and restore this country to what it once was, even more.
@KingdomAwaits I never said Solidus was evil. I said he was a nutcase. He wanted to free the world yes, but so that he would be remembered. He was trying to do good for selfish reasons and with ruthless methods. Also he had no idea of who his enemies really were.
4:08, Kinda confused = "None other than the 3rd of big bosses sons" In MGS1 Liquid tells snake that there were "8" sons but 6 were sacrificed to make liquid and snake. And Liquid was just used to make the perfect clone which turned out to be SNAKE. So i do not know how they say "3 SONS" if in MGS1 They clearly explain that there were only 2 left
I read the story of Metal Gear and I think that I can answer your question.
There were 8 sons, 6 were sacrificed, Liquid and Solid were created. Solidus is not more than a perfect clone of big boss.
They used Big Bosses "Soldier Genes" to create the perfect warrior Solid Snake - Liquid got the "bad" genes.
Solidus has nothing to do with the emergence of Liquid and Solid. Liquid and Solid are clones, they shouldn't be called sons... But they are called Big Bosses sons... So does Solidus.
Actually, Liquid got the dominant genes. As Ocelot is talking to Solidus at the end of MGS1 he says "The inferior one was the winner after all" (Snake beats Liquid in the hand-to-hand battle) "Until the end, Liquid thought he was the inferior one."
Liquid only THOUGHT he had the recessive genes and hated Snake for it. When it turned out he actually had the MOST of the dominant genes (excluding the hair color).
Well in MGS4 they find out there not "Perfect" Clones of there father Big Boss, seeing as their DNA would not pass for his. I don't know if Liquid ever knew if he had the dominant, however Ocelot knew.
maybe somethings were left out and liquid didnt know but it doesnt really matter how confusing the game got it can all be summed up with ocelot having a part in it so maybe ocelot knew more then what he told liquid
Well Liquid only found out part of the truth. If you listen to the transmission between Ocelot an Solidus at the end of the credits of MGS1, it explains That Liquid was really the one with Big Boss's dominent genes, Solid had all the recessive genes, Solidus has a perfect genetic match of Dominent and Recessive genes.
Just goes to show genes aren't a guarentee of superiority.
Solid outlived both his supposedly, "Superior" clone brothers.
wait who murdered big boss?!? why does solid have to kill big boss i thought that he was a good guy?!?!?!?!? and solidus snake isnt the perfect clone! he looks nothing like big boss! solid is a perfect clone! will someone explain this to me?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????!!!!????
Dude, you are missing some major info... Solid killed Big Boss during the first Metal Gear games, because BB was trying to turn the world into a mercenary state. BB is... maybe a good guy. Open to interpretation. Solidus is the only, 'perfect' clone of BB, since he is genetically identical. Liquid has only BB's dominant genes, Solid has only the recessive ones.
solid k8illed big boss in zanzibar land which is the first metal gear solid game but he never knew he was a clone of big boss then solid is the perfect clone of big boss when it comes to combat but by looks it solidus and then in MGS4 big boss was kept revived by ocelot Zero and eva and then lived for like 10 minutes until he was killed of old age right in front of snake and died next to the boss' grave
Ocelot is linked with Liquid during MGS but in Sons of Liberty he helps Solidus but later betrays him after revealing he was secretly working for the Patriots.
I made a similar mistake. After I completed getting the photos of RAY in the tanker to Otacon I skipped the cutscene where Liquid takes over him but during Raiden and Snake been held captive on top of Arsenal with Ocelot and Solidus after the Big Shell was demolished Liquid possessed Ocelot and when he revealed it was him at the tanker I couldn't believe I'd skipped the tanker cutscene.
Solidus was the next enemy of Snake after Liquid's death at Shadow Moses during the events of MGS. Liquid and Solidus want to become the boss to surpass their father Big Boss and they're doing whatever they can to get rid of each other and Snake.
*SPOILER ALERT* actually Ocelot was never possessed, he faked being liquid to use snake to pursue him in gain of his own personal interests, which was elimination of the patriots.
from the dvd you get given when your preorder MGS4 from game. its quite funky tbh but not worth it. just a lil something extra. but i don't know who the voice is
they should remake these games for ps3
aventura5107 9 months ago
@aventura5107 they are
Skeith308 5 months ago in playlist More videos from MUDDMAN87
They did a fucking voice documentary on this?! HOLY SHIT!
sonicdbzfan94 1 year ago
so how does the story go in all the games i heard grandpa grandpa things only plz answer
darkxerag 2 years ago
Otacon is the son of Snake? xD omg xD
migu854 2 years ago
Non of them are clones, they're real humans.
MrSilverAlex 2 years ago
They are clones, but they were grown in a woman's womb after the embryos were artificially developed.
MysticalWizardMerlin 2 years ago
Wow, this makes so many mistakes, just saying
ThePorticus 2 years ago
cant you kill raiken in mgs3, if you can why didnt it say you created a time paradox baeacuse mgs3 is before the events of mgs1 and 2
Tobiwarrior6 2 years ago
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TriggerKatomoto 2 years ago
MGS3=year 1964
MGS2=year 2002 (I think)
[Reply to Tobiwarrior6]
TriggerKatomoto 2 years ago
MGS 1 is suppose to take place in 2005.
Judokkaa 2 years ago
MG and MG2 are in 1999
MGS is in 2005
MGS2 isin 2009
MGS4 is in 2014
MysticalWizardMerlin 2 years ago
@MysticalWizardMerlin mgs3 1964 mgpo 1970-71 mgspw 1974 mg 1995 mg2 1999 mgs 2005 mgs2 2007 & 2009 mgs rising 2012 or 2013 mgs4 2014
siontimmy 1 year ago
No it's a parody of Raiden. His name is Major Raikov. It was a joke to make him look like Raiden that's all.
MysticalWizardMerlin 2 years ago
is solidus bad like liquid?
CrASYmUZIk 2 years ago
Well, that depends what you mean by "bad".
But he is an enemy in the game.
Bigbossjin 2 years ago
Yea if u get MGS4 Liquid explains stuff. Liquid wanted world domination so thats bad. Solidus wasnt like that.
narutocursemark 2 years ago 2
True, Liquid=Nutcase
Solidus=Nutcase with good intentions but VERY BAD planning
Solid= Not caring but gets the job done
Big Boss= COOLNESS
MysticalWizardMerlin 2 years ago 7
Solidus is still Evil. He killed Raiden's parents.
Trcls 2 years ago
According to Kojima's original story they were killed in a crossfire by Solidus with rebels in the Liberian Civil war. They were caught in the crossfire, though Solidus took the blame. He also took Raiden in and saved his life. So in a way he wasn't particularly evil His methods were ruthless due to his beliefs as a warrior. That does not excuse what he did, but it does explain it. He wanted to destroy the Patriots, no matter the cost.
MysticalWizardMerlin 2 years ago
@MysticalWizardMerlin You're a moron.
KingdomAwaits 4 months ago
@MysticalWizardMerlin By your standard, the founder fathers were no less evil. It's all a mater of perception. Most heroes, and sincere leaders, kings, and revolutionaries have violent and spotty pasts. It comes with the title and responsibility. They're warriors, this is the nature of man. He was a hero that sacrificed and risked his master seat of power being the president, and the figurehead of Patriots. He risked it all to liberate and restore this country to what it once was, even more.
KingdomAwaits 4 months ago
@KingdomAwaits I never said Solidus was evil. I said he was a nutcase. He wanted to free the world yes, but so that he would be remembered. He was trying to do good for selfish reasons and with ruthless methods. Also he had no idea of who his enemies really were.
MysticalWizardMerlin 3 months ago
think so
0202inferno 2 years ago
I don't think MUDDMAN is doing the narrating.
YouCantKillMrGOATSE 2 years ago
fellow britain then i assume, fuck american accents
rojmog 2 years ago
4:08, Kinda confused = "None other than the 3rd of big bosses sons" In MGS1 Liquid tells snake that there were "8" sons but 6 were sacrificed to make liquid and snake. And Liquid was just used to make the perfect clone which turned out to be SNAKE. So i do not know how they say "3 SONS" if in MGS1 They clearly explain that there were only 2 left
XDriftGaruX 2 years ago
I read the story of Metal Gear and I think that I can answer your question.
There were 8 sons, 6 were sacrificed, Liquid and Solid were created. Solidus is not more than a perfect clone of big boss.
They used Big Bosses "Soldier Genes" to create the perfect warrior Solid Snake - Liquid got the "bad" genes.
Solidus has nothing to do with the emergence of Liquid and Solid. Liquid and Solid are clones, they shouldn't be called sons... But they are called Big Bosses sons... So does Solidus.
SSBB0273 2 years ago
Actually, Liquid got the dominant genes. As Ocelot is talking to Solidus at the end of MGS1 he says "The inferior one was the winner after all" (Snake beats Liquid in the hand-to-hand battle) "Until the end, Liquid thought he was the inferior one."
Mariomaniac10 2 years ago
I don't understand it. In MGS1 Liquid told Snake that Snake got the dominant genes, and Liquid got the fucked up genes.
Right, Wrong? I don't get it...
SSBB0273 2 years ago 2
Liquid only THOUGHT he had the recessive genes and hated Snake for it. When it turned out he actually had the MOST of the dominant genes (excluding the hair color).
Mariomaniac10 2 years ago
and when had he noticed it? MGS 4 or when?
SSBB0273 2 years ago
Well in MGS4 they find out there not "Perfect" Clones of there father Big Boss, seeing as their DNA would not pass for his. I don't know if Liquid ever knew if he had the dominant, however Ocelot knew.
Mariomaniac10 2 years ago
maybe somethings were left out and liquid didnt know but it doesnt really matter how confusing the game got it can all be summed up with ocelot having a part in it so maybe ocelot knew more then what he told liquid
pivotuser08 2 years ago
Well Liquid only found out part of the truth. If you listen to the transmission between Ocelot an Solidus at the end of the credits of MGS1, it explains That Liquid was really the one with Big Boss's dominent genes, Solid had all the recessive genes, Solidus has a perfect genetic match of Dominent and Recessive genes.
Just goes to show genes aren't a guarentee of superiority.
Solid outlived both his supposedly, "Superior" clone brothers.
MysticalWizardMerlin 2 years ago
lol yes sum1 else equally as sad to be annoyed by this, awesome
rojmog 2 years ago
Which MSG was it when Raiden got stripped naked?
Treytheredrebel 2 years ago
I wouldn't say that you've messed up the entire plot, but you've edited it quite a bit. :/
Also you have an amazing voice.
Timtarheel 2 years ago
he dident do this, this is a special dvd thingy that came with mgs4 when you pre-ordered it
nolanmelon 2 years ago
Ah, could I have some sort of confirmation? A link or source? I'm not saying you're a liar, just wondering. =P
Timtarheel 2 years ago
It came with the Limited Edition of MGS 4
There is no editing done to this. Other than adding my website to it.
If you want a link look on Amazon for the MGS4 Limited Edition. The DVD were these came from are Metal Gear Saga Vol. 2 DVD
And thats not my Voice.
MUDDMAN87 2 years ago
Ah, thanks for the conformation. =P
Timtarheel 2 years ago
Is this a trailer, or did the OP create it? If so, OP has a great dialogue voice!
Oneworld87 2 years ago
3:57 see solidus looks nothing like big boss!
varun009 2 years ago
He does look like the Big Boss in MGS4
vfgjhj 2 years ago
btw liquid was never in ocelots body he just used alot of chemicals and stuff to think like him but he did it to fool the patriots
Pena1003 2 years ago
wait who murdered big boss?!? why does solid have to kill big boss i thought that he was a good guy?!?!?!?!? and solidus snake isnt the perfect clone! he looks nothing like big boss! solid is a perfect clone! will someone explain this to me?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????!!!!????
varun009 3 years ago
Dude, you are missing some major info... Solid killed Big Boss during the first Metal Gear games, because BB was trying to turn the world into a mercenary state. BB is... maybe a good guy. Open to interpretation. Solidus is the only, 'perfect' clone of BB, since he is genetically identical. Liquid has only BB's dominant genes, Solid has only the recessive ones.
Columbianbacon 2 years ago
solid k8illed big boss in zanzibar land which is the first metal gear solid game but he never knew he was a clone of big boss then solid is the perfect clone of big boss when it comes to combat but by looks it solidus and then in MGS4 big boss was kept revived by ocelot Zero and eva and then lived for like 10 minutes until he was killed of old age right in front of snake and died next to the boss' grave
Pena1003 2 years ago
but solid looks exactly like big boss i compared mgs2 and 3 and they look the same!?!?
varun009 2 years ago
a little bit but solidus looks a little bit more and solid uses almost the same moves in combat as big boss
Pena1003 2 years ago
Why is Ocelot linked with them? Or did I miss out something?
dbzsony 3 years ago
Ocelot is linked with Liquid during MGS but in Sons of Liberty he helps Solidus but later betrays him after revealing he was secretly working for the Patriots.
ProfessionalBully 3 years ago
Oh yeah. I remember now... Ocelot was having some weird moments in MGS2 where he was Liquid. Yeah. How could I miss that? :o
dbzsony 3 years ago
I made a similar mistake. After I completed getting the photos of RAY in the tanker to Otacon I skipped the cutscene where Liquid takes over him but during Raiden and Snake been held captive on top of Arsenal with Ocelot and Solidus after the Big Shell was demolished Liquid possessed Ocelot and when he revealed it was him at the tanker I couldn't believe I'd skipped the tanker cutscene.
ProfessionalBully 3 years ago
I must've done that too. It's been some time since I play MGS2.
dbzsony 3 years ago
Was solidus snake the enemy of Solid Snake like Liquid? Or he was just a good brother?:P
123joey12 3 years ago
Solidus was the next enemy of Snake after Liquid's death at Shadow Moses during the events of MGS. Liquid and Solidus want to become the boss to surpass their father Big Boss and they're doing whatever they can to get rid of each other and Snake.
ProfessionalBully 3 years ago
Snake thought Liquid was death but he wasn't right?:P Because hes in MGS4
123joey12 3 years ago
No Liquid died at Shadow Moses but his spirit possesses Ocelot in Sons of Liberty.
ProfessionalBully 3 years ago
*SPOILER ALERT* actually Ocelot was never possessed, he faked being liquid to use snake to pursue him in gain of his own personal interests, which was elimination of the patriots.
Ocelot is actually a good guy
canadaman50 3 years ago
umm so snake the one is mgs1 and mgs4 so then mgs3 is big boss
but mgs2 is solidus?
sum 1 different or like wat
who is solidus???
shiv604 3 years ago
ps is solidus that old guy in mgs2 raidens father?
shiv604 3 years ago
raiden doesnt hacve parents and yes thats solidus
Pena1003 2 years ago
What does Octacon have to do with snake there just friends?
Dragoondude32 3 years ago
have you played mgs1? or the Twin Snakes?
hevyd00d 3 years ago
LMAO The Pat-riots. its the Pay triots
unconcealed 3 years ago
what?
patriots is the spelling of it
calummmmmmm 3 years ago
The Narrator is Guy Perryman
MUDDMAN87 3 years ago
@MUDDMAN87 What the helll..... Guy Perryman..... Weird name.
THE1PAINOF1THE1GAME 1 year ago
How the fuck is it Major Zero?
He founded The Patriots,
and yet this narrator says:
'A surprise attack on United States soil,
'The Big Shell' incident,
first made me aware of 'their' presence'.
And Major Zero was born in Exeter, England. And trust me, No-one in this country
(unless they're retarded) says:
'The 'Pat'-riots'. We say 'The 'Pay'-triots'.
xSeraph69x 3 years ago
major zero is from mgs3
Gutairvillan987 3 years ago
but mgs3 was like 50 years before mgs1
calummmmmmm 3 years ago
where are these clips from?
manfredmann86 3 years ago
from the dvd you get given when your preorder MGS4 from game. its quite funky tbh but not worth it. just a lil something extra. but i don't know who the voice is
iluvyomumma 3 years ago
but I know the voice from somewhere...
DamzTheSleeper 3 years ago
it's major zero i think.
foolyousimpin 3 years ago 2
yes that's it it was him
Tomasbaba 3 years ago
The narrator sounds Australian, which is weird because I have never heard an Aussie say patriots like that.
Ripperhugme 3 years ago