hey john....how does the gearbox cope with an extra 100hp,can it survive odd track days and spirited weekend driving? and thats doing no power launches!
and the funny part about that is that people think their car runs the 1/4 @ those seconds but in reality its not. going on an angle takes away huge amounts of weight to the vehicle. search "R33 Nissan Skyline GTST 3037 hks drag 4" and tell me thats not a downhill track, its in Australia like this 1
I Work as a photographer at that track and i also have raced on it for years .
It is known as WSID or Western Sydney International Dragway . It is Australias best drag venue . it is NOT downhill, it is quite uphill in the braking area .
And it is the same track in both vids your posting about .
look at the barriers how they curve down then back up, that is what i call a down hill track, even if its off by 5 degrees its not a flat track, maybe at the end it can be uphill, that's fine, after the finish line doesn't matter what it is. How would you explain those curves, even looking down the runway you can tell it isn't flat
compare it with "Nostalgia drag race [on-car cam]" pause the video @ 0:59, that is what straight track looks like. both shots taken @ similar angles/heights, explain
Ive explained rationally ! The track is FLAT and is certified so . We even have USA top fuellers come here to Australia to compete at this track each year !
The only other conclusions i can come to is your either retarded or dont understand what FLAT IS ( not 5 degrees ) OR you dont understand english very well ?
Way too many keyboard warriors in the world today , Geez .... Why are you so persistently arguing ?
How did GM become the 2nd largest auto maker in the world by creating piece of shit vehicles. Once again up until 2 or so years ago they where the largest!!!!!! Your just pissed cause your obviously a STI lover and I proved you wrong on several occasions, cause the SS Chevy Cobalt alone is faster then that of the STI. But apperantly from what Mr. all knowling GOD (aka U) says they cannot handle to save there lives. But obviously lap times at the hardest track in the world muxt mean soemthing
If you knew SHIT you would know that GM was passed by TOYOTA. How long has TOYOTA been in America? Do some research dickhead. Do you watch the news? GM stands for Government Motors!!!!!!!! Anyone that thinks the Chevy Cobalt is a well built car is a fucking douche.(aka U)
I know that they where passed by toyota dumbass ass. Thats why I stated there the 2nd largest fuckwit. Also this whole argument started by you saying the STI was faster then any american muscle car cause they apperantly cannot handle. I gave you examples wheree they out handle them and you never gave an example against that. So is calling me a fuckwit all you have in this argument????? In the end the argument started about you saying they couldnt handle. You need to become educated.
If your so "educated" why are you confusing me with SOMEONE ELSE? I never said shit about the STI. You need to rewind your BULLSHIT and find out who the fuck you THINK your talking too. Fuckwit! BTW.....The fact that GM got passed-up by a company that has been around for 40 years PROVES that GM sucks balls.
Toyota has way more then just the Camry, if thats all they had, they would not be the number one selling car manufacturer in the world. Also Chevy is not over saturating the market with the malibu if there is a demand for the vehicle. A car company is not worried about resale value, it's called supply and demand. But obviously you wouldnt understand that cause your uneducated and simply ignorant in about every way when it comes to this.
WOW!!! You ARE a simple little fucktard! TOYOTA earned its reputation of "quality and reliability" giving the company credibility to sell other models of cars and trucks. GM doesn't care about resale value.....TOYOTA does! Thats why GM cars suck balls and all they can sell is the Siverado. Name a good GM car..the Aveo??!!! YOU CANT!!! THEY SUCK ASS!!! There IS NO DEMAND FOR GM CARS(especially the Malibu) they keep making them and using rebates!!!! Thats why their going into bankruptcy. DIPSHIT!
Rebated are there so people will buy more, GM is still making money even when there are rebates on vehicles dipshit. Also there's a ton more into the reason why GM is close to bankruptcy. Dependable vehicles isnt the reason, also chevy has good vehicles. Again it's not saturating the market, it's simply supply and demand. But again to get back to the main argument. American vehicles handle much better then you ignorant asshole's think. Cause the american muscle car is king of the ring dick.
GM became the "2nd largest auto maker" because there was NO ONE ELSE and the fact that they MASS produce HORRIBLE cars like the Malibu; put HUGE rebates on them and stupid people buy them. Its called saturating the market and RUINING your brand image. TOYOTA on the other hand made a little car called a CAMRY and NEVER put rebates and incentives on the car while making only what the needed......not mass production with rebates! That kills resale value and repeat customer base. FUCKWIT! GM sucks!
By the way I know that the ZR-1 does not have 1000Hp so dont try and use that against me. I just wan tto know why you say that the ZR-1 is ohh soo bad and the GT-R is sooo much better. And why you keep on using the argument that. Well the ZR-1 looses sooo much money in value each year making the GT-R faster?!?!?!?! I mean come on dude get real
WOW! Since you want to "chime" . Its a fact that Nissan has better quality control guidelines than GM. Secondly the GT-R/R35 dosent compare with the ZR-1, the Spec-V does dipshit. You need to learn to read all the comments before you decide to interject. The Corvette is a plastic turd. THE END!
better quality control? Google "Buick and Jaguar end Lexus 14 year reign in dependability study" Buick is GM and raped Nissan in reliability. Even Licoln/Mercury beat Nissan. Nice quality when your crap is breaking ;) Like transmissions. Spec-V is a joke $100,000 and it wasn't much faster than the base model.
ZR-1 happens to use CF dumbass. So become educated dipshit, also I know the V-SPEC is a contender but lags behind what 3 or 4 seconds.... And is what like 8 or 9 seconds behind that of the Dodge ACR Viper. 2ndly Nahhh actually nissan isnt all that reliably as you say that they are. As etb4u said they fell behind that of GM. SO if you want a turd, get the GT-R if you want a faster turd. Get the V-SPEC. The sad thing is I love the SKYLINE SERIES. Just hate the people who think there invincible
Yeah.......Im sure you believe everything that you read. Everyone knows that American cars SUCK ASS! I cant believe you fucking BRAINWASHED into thinking that GM doesnt MAKE-UP "studys" to get people to buy their SHIT cars. BUICK????? WTF???? What a DOUCHE! Why dont you look up how many years in a row the VQ engine has been on Wards Auto Worlds "best engines in the world" list. GM cant engineer a fucking radio knob let alone a motor. Dude.....at least wash the balls of a profitable car company.
No actually I do not and when it's from an outside source the news is way more reputable and reliable there dude. And you just think that american cars suck, because your totally ignorant to the world. And it doesnt matter how well the motor is built if the suspension sucks or the tranny blow balls then it doesnt matter dude. Just the general statement that you said that all american cars suck is a very ignorant statement. In the litteral meaning that you have a lack of knowledge.
true,,i like the zr1,,most people who talk crap about these cars are just kids...if i have 130k i would definitley go with the zr1,,but lets say i have about 180K to spend its a GTR for me,,changing the gears to PPK and weight reduction would be priority.,,
I find it funny how so many of you focus on ETs alone and not consider the GTRs trap speed. 11.1 is impressive indeed (mostly due to its superior AWD traction) but the 121mph trap isnt. From a roll this "tuned" GTR would still have trouble shaking off a stock Z06 as Ive personally seen stock Z06s trap in the 122-125 range. GM says the ZR1 should run 11 flat with a 130mph+ trap. And no, Im not a GM fanboy as I prefer German/Japanese imports.
The ZR-1 is more money because Nissan is selling the R35 at a loss. They've admitted to doing this. Chevy could easily bring out 2 Vettes with 800HP and sell them for $1.00 and then say it's cheaper, but then that would be gay (unless they sold it to me) so your point is moot.
Chevy cant afford to sell ANYTHING for $1.00 DUMBASS.....Your "point" is moot. If chevy could make a 800HP Vette dont you think they would have done it by now?
They havent made one from the FACTORY DOUCHE. How fucking DUMB are you? They can make a GT-R 800HP too moron and it would STILL be cheaper than a 630 HP ZR-1. What else?
Actually, yes, the ACRs are built in the same plant as the base Vipers. Idiot. How much does an 800 GT-R cost? search ZR-1 and watch the 1st video where it rapes the GT-R. the GT-r ran same 1/4 as the Z06. Woops.
I dont remember talking about mopar....I remember talking about the vette. You need to put you head back-up your ass because the GT-R compares to the Z-06 and the Spec-V compares to the ZR-1....We'll see. How many passengers does the Vette carry again? Exactly.
A 1,000 HP NEW ZR-1 would be MORE EXPENSIVE than a GT-R DOUCHE! Everyone knows that you can take a USED vette and make it 1,000 HP(even though it wouldnt last for 10,000 miles) because of the STEEP DEPRECIATION that vettes are notorious for. Whats your point? If I wanted CHEAP electronics(AC Delco).........and a TURD pushrod I would buy one. I'll take 490HP and a QUALITY product that doesn't lose 50% of its value the first year, thats MUCH more of an investment. Thanks! Wake-up! GMs done!
There were only like 16 transmission situations that this happened to out of 1800 cars sold in the US. The point is that you can not purchase a stock chevy or dodge that is faster than this. The exception being the ZR1 which is much more expensive. Not only that but you can make lots of cars 1000hp for less than a gtr. To add to that Nissan isn't asking the American government for a bailout. I don't think id want to buy another American vehicle for fear the companies would go belie up on me.
almost 1% is an very high failure rate for such an important part of a car. We aren't talking about seat belt fasteners. Nissan also isn't impacted by UAW and the Jobs Bank. Don't pretend to know what you're talking about on an open forum where someone can call you out on it :D
Call me out? You haven't called anything out. All you have done is disagree with a previous statement that i posted with an opinion of your own believing it to more accurate than what i have stated. You don't know any more about it than anyone else here.
Actually it's a few hard launches from the launch Control system, repeaded use of it will cause the tranny problems. But have you choosen not to respond to my last comment, because you have nothing to come back to. Cause as it happens to be I was just really starting to come up with the facts dude. But then again usually thats how it happens with people that dont know shit. Somebody presents facts and they either deny them or they just stop arguing.
Your point about the 1000HP ZR1 loosing it's value faster then the NEW GTR has no point at all. The new ZR-1 is faster at the ring then the new GTR is. So how can you say that a pushrod is a turd when it obviously pushes the ZR-1 around a track faster then what the GT-R does. Who cares if it's a pushrod or a DOHC configuration. Plus how is a GT-R better quality then a ZR-1 and why do you keep on saying about it loosing 50% of it's value. Is that all you have to argue about dude??? Seems like it
Are you mental? Like seriously. it'll be cheaper but you're about as bright as a 0.01Watt incandescent light bulb. It all depends on what you want it for how long it'll last etc etc. There is no comparison. You're basing your reasoning on shear ignorance which leads everyone who sees this to believe that you're 15 and still at school. In which case your opinion is invalidated as you're too young to have one.
Try reading the rest of the thread ;) You're making the same point as I am. And, if you think you can't make reliable high horsepower cars that are still cheaper than exotics, then perhaps playing with Barbies are more your speed.
what are u talking about fan guy?? the gt-r stock runs 9.0@160mph in the 1/4 mile top speed 270mph! c'mon don't be ignorant the 2009 zr1 runs 14.0@99mph top speed only 162mph 0-60 6.0.. gt-r rules don't u thing fan guy?
ZO6??? its not in this vid and who gives a hoot how quick a zo6 zo1 is! fact is that cashed up aussies wont spend that on a vette when u can buy a 911,m3,gtr..current vettes are great fun but dont insult nissan by saying its as good..every gtr ever made has been legendary...vettes are legendary like a big mac is legendary..fills you up but not the way 2 go down here mate..we dont need or want them...fact!
Actually the Haltech ECU adds 20 more HP not too much but they fiddled with some stuff and got the car running at 11.1 dead stock factory ECU they run high 11's early 12's....
Saw it today on the Dyno at Autosalon in Melbourne and the guy mentioned that also from Nissan they said its high 11's to early 12's.
Ignorant again, real american. Be proud, stars and stripes moronism. I just showed you video of GTR runing 11.69 (which hited 180km/h limit before it finished quarter, so it will go even faster) and you still write BS. But again, drag racing is moronic, on a track, z06 won't stand a chance, proven numerous times. Don't be idiotic, hombre... :/
@Symbrio i hear ur argument, but how much does any car really spend its life on a track, almost 0%, vs everyday driving and 1/4 mile,dragstrip, 1 mile runs, top speed runs as well, this car has/needs 2 turbos, Z-06 is a pushrod V8, and it waxes damn near 99% of the cars on the road, and eveything n/a in V8 form, u cant beat a C6 Z06, GM did a super job on that car,
the truth is every big name in auto has the gtr running 11.5 and the z06 running the same and no the top speed of it is 198 thats why they built the zr1 to be the first vette to break 200mph
Moreover if you knew how dominant the GT-R has been for the past 2 decades in the world of motorsports and among automotive tuners around the world as the performance car of choice, you wouldn't even open your silly mouth.
The GT-R obviously was not built solely for the purposes of drag racing. It's primarily engineered to out perform on a race circuit. It takes massive amounts of engineering knowledge to get a car as heavy as the GT-R to perform as extremely competently as it does on a race circuit. Anybody with a 100 IQ can take a 5.0+ liter engine and make it fast in a straight line. Nobody with a 100 IQ could engineer a car like the GT-R. The GT-R is about Japanese superior engineering.
The target market of the GT-R definitely wouldn't ever, under normal circumstances, drive a Mustang. Have you seen the types of people that drive Mustangs? 99% of them wouldn't even know what a G is.
Finally mustang guy shows up. Only a mustang fan would make a comment like that. You are comparing an old, cheap shitbox to a high tech, high performance machine. Typical mustang logic, "just drop a huge motor in it and it is just as good as anything else". Keep driving your 1986 stang if it will start and keep thinking it's better than a supercar.
Magazine drivers (some more than others) are notoriously bad. Especially in RWD stick car on run flats. I would expect the GT-R numbers with Auto Shifting and launch mode to be far more consistent run to run.
well its good to see something fresh on the street u know? well hopoefully you'll run into one of them and hopefully u might test drive the GTR oneday and i do to.
There was a red GT-R in NJ that has a VIN and Cali plates, no "test mule" BS... It was running 11s right after hot lapping. The highest trap was 122 and lowest trap was 118 I believe.
That's very believable given the numbers these things are cranking out on the dynos. Combined with AWD and launch mode, sure. I do wonder how many hard launches it'll hold up to though? A friend spotted one near Buttonwillow not long ago. Maybe I will see one at a track someday. Yeah.
i agree GeorgeV6 it can do in the high 10's and its "3800lbs with 4 seats", the funny thing is, u can do this run with 4 people in it. put the "AMUSE or MINES R35" on the 1/4 or the ONE LAP AMERICA, its pretty much a wrap!
I don't know if you've never been to the track before, but the clock doesn't start till you cross the staging beams. You could sit there staged for a minute till you launch and this car would still have pulled an 11.1
the reason the launch was delayed was because hes in a bracket race and the other car is slower, so they launch the faster car last. in bracket racing they usually dont launch at the exact same time unless they both dial in the same time.
GM claim?? fuck the claim, show us the run on video like Nissan do, u know what i mean..and Nissan claim the V-Spec will be 10 seconds FASTER than the Standard GTR. So Euro Nissan pulled in 7:29, i guess the V-Spec should be UNDER 7:20, but we'll see though. u can look up on "google" or go to the GTR website, the FIRST run on the V-Spec GTR on the Nurb was 7:25 on a wet day...
I'm curious to see how the ZR1 pans out. It's still a silly comparison considering the different price range however. I'd take an ACR Viper or GT2 over all of them though :D
Is there a C&D VIR Lightning Lap of the GT-R yet. As far as magazine benchmarks go, this seems to be one of the best as it gives sector by sector analysis on a comprehensive track in the hands of multiple drivers. This I'd give a lot of credibility to. And yeah, the ACR is wicked.
I'll say that Nissan's reliability as far as an entire line is probably better than Chevy BUT the LSx motors are far from unreliable.
BTW, you say you have an 07 350ZTT although there aren't any actual mass produced kits for it. I'm curious as to what shop did the work because I know of a few shops that have done it so far. Whp/psi/type of dyno? And there is a REASON they are just getting TT'd 07+ Zs.
i have 350Z TT and Z32TT, ONLY the 350z not fully built all the way. i have a guy out near my way that can easily do it (whatever price u get he'll beat it), he does my work on my Z32 performance, he does everything in his garage, i just order the parts. im not really done with my 350Z TT i haven't touch the motor beside intake and switch my exhaust (HKS) by october or November i should be done, hopefully. Only my Z32 is finish from turbo to motor and HKS Hyper Exhaust.
So you're in the process of TT and not actually TT'd? Are you doing a custom kit or something? Like I said, there are no "mass produced" kits besides GTM or custom. I know someone that has done it but they're not local to me. I'm the wrong 350Z to try to fool :)
theres no neeed to fool anybody fool, u can go to "Z1-Motorsports" out in Georgia and u can get a TT KIT from them and they're do dyno with that as well. u can look them up? u can go with HKS 2530 GT but of course u can go with GREDDY TT KIT as well or Power Enterprise TT KIT, i dunno where u get this idea of NO "MASS PRODUCED", you kind of late aren't u?? thats all they do is SPECIALIZE Z's, 350Z, and G35..anything u can do to the 350Z? u can do the same for the G35 Coupe.
Sorry buddy, if there were mass produced TT kits for 2007 Zs, there would be a LOT more 2007 Zs TT'd by now. Trust me I know... The 07+ doesn't even have the same motor as the 03-06 which is why I asked. I know of the kits by PE, SFR, APS, HKS, Greddy, Sound Performance, JWT, Turbonetics, Powerlab... you get the point. Don't tell me I'm late and BTW... I was at Zdayz at Z1 Motorsports party at their cabin,
I don't have to look them up. Anything else you'd like to add?
the turbos i got for my 350Z is the Greddy TT KIT, but i haven't install it yet, im basically waiting for the warranty is up. thats even better for me cuz, i just need a few more things and im good. im already done with my 96'Z32TT, i have a different turbo set up than the 350Z. i have the 2530 GT turbos in it. to many modds to list, but u get the picture. check out "Z1-Motorsport", they also have deals and stuff..
Built bottom end and cams, not sure what the comp is though. Possibly 8.5 or 9.5 but that's just pump gas... no meth injection. He doesn't feel the need to get a race gas tune lol. If you click my username, I have a video that I recorded for him. Super nice car and very fast.
I'd be curious to know the build stats. The numbers don't quite work in my head. To get to that kind of WHP on a Z motor, you'd need something like >= 30psi? You aren't doing that on pump gas. LOL.
Typical build really, pistons, rods, nonsleeved block, and aftermarket cams and stock heads. He daily drives on 10psi though so somewhere around 475whp.
I can show you the dyno from 6psi to 15psi if you'd like. I've ridden in this car plenty of times and he's practically my best friend. The shop that did the work is one of the best 350Z shops in the US. Cams do help a good bit for boosted Zs :)
I can also show you a stroked Z making 600hp at 10psi if you'd like :p
well thats good then, i prolly won't get my that high anyway, i just don't like leaving it stock so, i haven't even put it in yet so its all good though. i got this Greddy Kit from a friend like a month and half ago, it still fresh. only my Z32 is good, im not going to put to much money into it, just a few upgrade here and there so thats it for me, i still have low miles in it, i barely even touch the car. good looking out though, i thought all motor was the same from 03-07'.
Who cares about the 1/4 anyway... at least the GT-R handles it own when it comes to the twisties. Considering all this talk about the Z06... I'd like one of you to tell me that you've personally ran a 10 in stock Z06... I'm sure most of you can't drive worth a crap anyway.
There are only a couple great drivers who've hit high 10s in a stock C6Z. But it has been done, on run flats no less. The average C6Z runs mid 11s in the low 120s. My guess is that a heads up race in the 1/4 between an average GT-R and C6Z would be neck and neck. If it were a high speed run, the Vette would walk it past the quarter (even the mags say that). Courses will depend very heavily on the actual course, driver and tires. We'll see. Hopefully some of the GT-R fans will actually run them.
Thank you... finally a realistic post (being I didn't read much). When do people realize that just because a few people ran a certain time doesn't mean that it is the norm. It at least shows the capability of the car, unfortunately driver skill is the most important thing.
to be honest with ya? in the VA/DC area, u can't even hit above 65-70mph around here, (TOO MANY STATE TROOPER) let say if the GTR was racing a Vette in the highwahy?? if the GTR is leading after a mile?? i would slow down, cuz theres no point of killing myself u know? the Vette can keep racing against itself, and hit top speed all it want, but im not getting pulled over. of course the limit top speed is 193mph, with HKS ECU..u can surpass 193 to ALL the way up to 220mph EASILY.
Fanboy, now you're betraying your ignorance. The GT-R top speed is redline limited, not power limited. More power, and you'll get to 193 faster, but you won't go faster. Upping the factory set engine redline is asking for disaster. The strength of the GT-R in straight line acceleration is from a dig with its launch control and AWD, from a roll, the Z walks it. This is based strictly on mag numbers (suspicious as they are).
asking for disaster what u mean buddy? suspicious as they are? u perfer the US Mags or Euro Mags or the Japs Mag?? ALL of them telling the same shit, if u can do any better, maybe u should go around ask for Z06 and borrow from a owner and prove US GTR fans wrong? of course everything is limited for a reason, and Nissan say, the stock set up is the perfect set up? of course u have companys like MINES, AMUSE, TOP SECRET, MCR, HKS, GREDDY, NISMO, will DECODE that, its already been done..
Rotating assemblies have maximum potential rotation speeds before they come apart. If you just go and arbitrarily up the redline set by the manufacturer you're asking the engine to self destruct. I encourage you to test this on your car if you don't believe me. As for the mags, I remember a number of times when stated HP and performance ratings from the Mags turned out to be . . . mmm, less than accurate in production models.
im sure im not going to kill the GTR engine as soon i sit in the car. Before the GTR is sold to its owner, Nissan TEST EVERY GTR on the track, making sure the car is breaking in well, as for the GTR engine BREAKING APART?? im sure it will last LONGER than a Vette engine. and as for HP figures on the GTR? just check out "R35 Dynoed" by MotorTrend on youtube..with drivetrain efficency, with 15% loss the GTR is pushing over 507HP and with 25% loss, the GTR is pushing over 570HP and 560lb-ft..
Why are you sure it'll last longer than a Vette engine? Have they been in the field for 10+ years? As for HP, you mean that it's putting out more than the advertised 480BHP (a LOT more)? Why is Nissan lying in its advertised specs? The days when this worked with insurance companies are long gone. Will the customer cars get these HP levels? You're going to get one right? I'll set up a race for you.
MOST "ALL" Nissan V6 Engine LAST longer than a Chevy engine, its the MASTER of "V6". from the Nissan 300ZX (VG30DETT) to the Nissan Skyline GTR R32-R34 (RB26DETT) last over 10 years and still running strong. Nissan been lying about their HP configuration for a long time now and u now just notice this?? even R34 owners dyoned got well over 350-400HP even with "gentlement agreement 280HP", even the 300ZXTT (90-95)(300HP) was whoopin on the Vettes back in the days.
Where's your data for durability? There are plenty of GenI V8s that have been on the road for more than 30 (hard) years. I personally know of LS motors well beyond 100,000 miles that are driven hard. There was an article in C&D (Maybe R&T) about a Vette Mule that had over 100,000 miles in just a couple years, many from laps at the Ring and hard launches all on the same driveline. Then they took on a tour of dirt roads in Alaska (more like Rally). Problems were none.
Yeah, not many. But there are things like 0-200-0 at the Silver State Classic, or flat out top speed at Bonneville, etc. Nissan was brilliant in their gearing and tire selection.
Yes ALL GTR owners who own the GTR will have more than 480HP even though its advertise as 480HP. i feel like, the reason Nissan lied about their HP is becuz, MORE HP configuration MORE MONEY on the GTR, the Chief of Nissan said.."the GTR is for the people, not just for HIGH END people, we doing this for the people, i don't understand why the SuperCars Company is over pricing their cars" Jap Spec stock boost (10.2) and U.S & Euro Spec has (11.8). 480HP is rated on the flywheel i belive..
Well, so much "for the people". Markups are looking like they'll be between 20,000 - 50,000 USD. That puts it way beyond Vette prices and up towards Turbo Porsche prices. If Nissan was serious about "for the people", they would have made more than 2,500 a year for the US. It's a halo car pure and simple.
C'mon u know the Dealer is going to make their money? what do u expect?? Carlos Ghosen said it during his GTR Promo Tour, said the GTR is going to be 71k Top of Line, and go on sale in US Market by June 1. its not his fault if the Dealer decide to make an extra 15-20k, overall its going to be close to 100k. look at the Z06 price overseas? the Z06 is WAAY expensive in Japan, nearly 150k, and the GTR is EVEN ChEAPER in Japan, so it depend where u are in the States.
Corvette prices over seas are almost completely because of import Tariffs. This I know for a fact. The US does not have Socialist import tarrifs and hence similar pricing to origin. I don't blame dealers for marking them up here. Just that if Nissan really wanted to build an everyman's supercar, they'd build a lot more of them. It's a halo car intended to support the brand. I get it. Corvettes, however, are made in much larger numbers and truly affordable to the middle class.
yea i feel ya, since u out in California?? theres a couple owners who own the R35 GTR. check out "R35 J-Spec in the US" its on Youtube, the guy who owns it is in L.A, its a Black Color R35, maybe you'll run into someday.....
All u gotta do is look up "R35 Dynoed" its on youtube, then u should have an idea how many HP is pushing out and its done by MotorTrend. Also the Nissan 300ZXTT holds the Top Speed at Bonneville back then, as for me getting the R35?? i'll waited out for alittle cuz thousands still haven't got theirs yet, so im cool for rite now with my MODD 96'Z32TT & 07 350ZTT. as for u setting a place and time to race when i do get a GTR? im not going to waste my time looking for U, u can catch me out at I-95
He coulda done 10
sssukaPSN 8 months ago
did your first gear cog stand upto the hard launches?? ever get the stronger upgrade?
i heard the early R35's commonly had their first gear break.
Greno 1 year ago
FUCK SAKES, SHUT THE FUCK UP DURING THE VIDEO.
NO ONE GIVES A FUCK WHAT YOUR THINKING ABOUT
kiriller 1 year ago
hey john....how does the gearbox cope with an extra 100hp,can it survive odd track days and spirited weekend driving? and thats doing no power launches!
fabglein 1 year ago
if you think its a downhill track you must be retarded, its one of the best strips in the world not just Australia
calaisturbz 2 years ago
on a downhill track, nice.
ArielCaboob 2 years ago
This is Australia's wolrd class track in Sydney ! It definately aint downhill thats for sure !
And it isnt a 12 yr old commentating, its bad audio with a female comentator :)
TTSoarer91 2 years ago
It sure does give the illusion of a downhill track, some of the tracks on other youtube videos are blatantly on downhill tracks
ArielCaboob 2 years ago
and the funny part about that is that people think their car runs the 1/4 @ those seconds but in reality its not. going on an angle takes away huge amounts of weight to the vehicle. search "R33 Nissan Skyline GTST 3037 hks drag 4" and tell me thats not a downhill track, its in Australia like this 1
ArielCaboob 2 years ago
Your obviously not from Australia are you ???
I Work as a photographer at that track and i also have raced on it for years .
It is known as WSID or Western Sydney International Dragway . It is Australias best drag venue . it is NOT downhill, it is quite uphill in the braking area .
And it is the same track in both vids your posting about .
TTSoarer91 2 years ago
look at the barriers how they curve down then back up, that is what i call a down hill track, even if its off by 5 degrees its not a flat track, maybe at the end it can be uphill, that's fine, after the finish line doesn't matter what it is. How would you explain those curves, even looking down the runway you can tell it isn't flat
compare it with "Nostalgia drag race [on-car cam]" pause the video @ 0:59, that is what straight track looks like. both shots taken @ similar angles/heights, explain
ArielCaboob 2 years ago
Ive explained rationally ! The track is FLAT and is certified so . We even have USA top fuellers come here to Australia to compete at this track each year !
The only other conclusions i can come to is your either retarded or dont understand what FLAT IS ( not 5 degrees ) OR you dont understand english very well ?
Way too many keyboard warriors in the world today , Geez .... Why are you so persistently arguing ?
TTSoarer91 2 years ago 2
its not downhill its uphill at the end
saintluke87 2 years ago
since when can a 12 year old announce a race?
GimliG35 2 years ago
How did GM become the 2nd largest auto maker in the world by creating piece of shit vehicles. Once again up until 2 or so years ago they where the largest!!!!!! Your just pissed cause your obviously a STI lover and I proved you wrong on several occasions, cause the SS Chevy Cobalt alone is faster then that of the STI. But apperantly from what Mr. all knowling GOD (aka U) says they cannot handle to save there lives. But obviously lap times at the hardest track in the world muxt mean soemthing
SSshane6d9 2 years ago
If you knew SHIT you would know that GM was passed by TOYOTA. How long has TOYOTA been in America? Do some research dickhead. Do you watch the news? GM stands for Government Motors!!!!!!!! Anyone that thinks the Chevy Cobalt is a well built car is a fucking douche.(aka U)
gidsum29 2 years ago
I know that they where passed by toyota dumbass ass. Thats why I stated there the 2nd largest fuckwit. Also this whole argument started by you saying the STI was faster then any american muscle car cause they apperantly cannot handle. I gave you examples wheree they out handle them and you never gave an example against that. So is calling me a fuckwit all you have in this argument????? In the end the argument started about you saying they couldnt handle. You need to become educated.
SSshane6d9 2 years ago
If your so "educated" why are you confusing me with SOMEONE ELSE? I never said shit about the STI. You need to rewind your BULLSHIT and find out who the fuck you THINK your talking too. Fuckwit! BTW.....The fact that GM got passed-up by a company that has been around for 40 years PROVES that GM sucks balls.
gidsum29 2 years ago
Toyota has way more then just the Camry, if thats all they had, they would not be the number one selling car manufacturer in the world. Also Chevy is not over saturating the market with the malibu if there is a demand for the vehicle. A car company is not worried about resale value, it's called supply and demand. But obviously you wouldnt understand that cause your uneducated and simply ignorant in about every way when it comes to this.
SSshane6d9 2 years ago
WOW!!! You ARE a simple little fucktard! TOYOTA earned its reputation of "quality and reliability" giving the company credibility to sell other models of cars and trucks. GM doesn't care about resale value.....TOYOTA does! Thats why GM cars suck balls and all they can sell is the Siverado. Name a good GM car..the Aveo??!!! YOU CANT!!! THEY SUCK ASS!!! There IS NO DEMAND FOR GM CARS(especially the Malibu) they keep making them and using rebates!!!! Thats why their going into bankruptcy. DIPSHIT!
gidsum29 2 years ago
Rebated are there so people will buy more, GM is still making money even when there are rebates on vehicles dipshit. Also there's a ton more into the reason why GM is close to bankruptcy. Dependable vehicles isnt the reason, also chevy has good vehicles. Again it's not saturating the market, it's simply supply and demand. But again to get back to the main argument. American vehicles handle much better then you ignorant asshole's think. Cause the american muscle car is king of the ring dick.
SSshane6d9 2 years ago
GM became the "2nd largest auto maker" because there was NO ONE ELSE and the fact that they MASS produce HORRIBLE cars like the Malibu; put HUGE rebates on them and stupid people buy them. Its called saturating the market and RUINING your brand image. TOYOTA on the other hand made a little car called a CAMRY and NEVER put rebates and incentives on the car while making only what the needed......not mass production with rebates! That kills resale value and repeat customer base. FUCKWIT! GM sucks!
gidsum29 2 years ago
By the way I know that the ZR-1 does not have 1000Hp so dont try and use that against me. I just wan tto know why you say that the ZR-1 is ohh soo bad and the GT-R is sooo much better. And why you keep on using the argument that. Well the ZR-1 looses sooo much money in value each year making the GT-R faster?!?!?!?! I mean come on dude get real
SSshane6d9 2 years ago
WOW! Since you want to "chime" . Its a fact that Nissan has better quality control guidelines than GM. Secondly the GT-R/R35 dosent compare with the ZR-1, the Spec-V does dipshit. You need to learn to read all the comments before you decide to interject. The Corvette is a plastic turd. THE END!
gidsum29 2 years ago
better quality control? Google "Buick and Jaguar end Lexus 14 year reign in dependability study" Buick is GM and raped Nissan in reliability. Even Licoln/Mercury beat Nissan. Nice quality when your crap is breaking ;) Like transmissions. Spec-V is a joke $100,000 and it wasn't much faster than the base model.
etb4u 2 years ago 2
ZR-1 happens to use CF dumbass. So become educated dipshit, also I know the V-SPEC is a contender but lags behind what 3 or 4 seconds.... And is what like 8 or 9 seconds behind that of the Dodge ACR Viper. 2ndly Nahhh actually nissan isnt all that reliably as you say that they are. As etb4u said they fell behind that of GM. SO if you want a turd, get the GT-R if you want a faster turd. Get the V-SPEC. The sad thing is I love the SKYLINE SERIES. Just hate the people who think there invincible
SSshane6d9 2 years ago
Yeah.......Im sure you believe everything that you read. Everyone knows that American cars SUCK ASS! I cant believe you fucking BRAINWASHED into thinking that GM doesnt MAKE-UP "studys" to get people to buy their SHIT cars. BUICK????? WTF???? What a DOUCHE! Why dont you look up how many years in a row the VQ engine has been on Wards Auto Worlds "best engines in the world" list. GM cant engineer a fucking radio knob let alone a motor. Dude.....at least wash the balls of a profitable car company.
gidsum29 2 years ago
No actually I do not and when it's from an outside source the news is way more reputable and reliable there dude. And you just think that american cars suck, because your totally ignorant to the world. And it doesnt matter how well the motor is built if the suspension sucks or the tranny blow balls then it doesnt matter dude. Just the general statement that you said that all american cars suck is a very ignorant statement. In the litteral meaning that you have a lack of knowledge.
SSshane6d9 2 years ago
go get your specv GTR and race the plastic turd, and watch it tailights run away from your dumb ass
redhot916spd 2 years ago
Its not 100% stock if it has an aftermarket ecu
harleyearl653 2 years ago
the ZR-1 is a mad car, comfort, performance
handling, it eats an R35 GTR for breakfast
freedomsoldier187 3 years ago
You stupid Americans always talking about the ZR1. Get over yourselves, the ZR1 is American shit compared to the GTR.
Mclarensenna 3 years ago
i dont think the zr-1 is shit compared with the gtr..gtr is definitely not faster, both are good cars
more technology into the gtr but that corvette is really a master piece
f4r20 2 years ago
true,,i like the zr1,,most people who talk crap about these cars are just kids...if i have 130k i would definitley go with the zr1,,but lets say i have about 180K to spend its a GTR for me,,changing the gears to PPK and weight reduction would be priority.,,
supercars01 2 years ago
if i had 180k i would buy both jaja they are perfect machines...zr1 is more unique though
f4r20 2 years ago
Killer looks for the zr1
supercars01 2 years ago
Why do they say the car is not tuned when they clearly said they installed a new chip (ECU)??
:P...... hmmmm me no einstien but me smell someting fishy and smelling like..... umm what is it called again..... oh thats it BULLSHIT!
anbrin 3 years ago
The haltech car is stock. All it has is an ECU mod.
vspec2wrx 3 years ago 2
and a ecu does alot on a turbo car. so it is not stock
boostedz 3 years ago
I find it funny how so many of you focus on ETs alone and not consider the GTRs trap speed. 11.1 is impressive indeed (mostly due to its superior AWD traction) but the 121mph trap isnt. From a roll this "tuned" GTR would still have trouble shaking off a stock Z06 as Ive personally seen stock Z06s trap in the 122-125 range. GM says the ZR1 should run 11 flat with a 130mph+ trap. And no, Im not a GM fanboy as I prefer German/Japanese imports.
blkguynlex 3 years ago
the zr-1 better run faster than that with 1 person hitting a 10.9 bone stock in a z06 and a good driver hitting low 11's
boostedz 3 years ago
Its not tuned dude. The ZR-1 is also more money
gidsum29 3 years ago
The ZR-1 is more money because Nissan is selling the R35 at a loss. They've admitted to doing this. Chevy could easily bring out 2 Vettes with 800HP and sell them for $1.00 and then say it's cheaper, but then that would be gay (unless they sold it to me) so your point is moot.
etb4u 3 years ago
Chevy cant afford to sell ANYTHING for $1.00 DUMBASS.....Your "point" is moot. If chevy could make a 800HP Vette dont you think they would have done it by now?
gidsum29 3 years ago
Yes, they could. DUMBASS. Your point is moot. So you think they Vettes can't push 800HP? God you're fucking stupid.
etb4u 3 years ago
They havent made one from the FACTORY DOUCHE. How fucking DUMB are you? They can make a GT-R 800HP too moron and it would STILL be cheaper than a 630 HP ZR-1. What else?
gidsum29 3 years ago
Actually, yes, the ACRs are built in the same plant as the base Vipers. Idiot. How much does an 800 GT-R cost? search ZR-1 and watch the 1st video where it rapes the GT-R. the GT-r ran same 1/4 as the Z06. Woops.
etb4u 3 years ago
I dont remember talking about mopar....I remember talking about the vette. You need to put you head back-up your ass because the GT-R compares to the Z-06 and the Spec-V compares to the ZR-1....We'll see. How many passengers does the Vette carry again? Exactly.
gidsum29 3 years ago
Who said about factory DOUCHE? LMFAO and a 1,000HP Vette would be cheaper than a GT-R, what's your point?
etb4u 2 years ago
A 1,000 HP NEW ZR-1 would be MORE EXPENSIVE than a GT-R DOUCHE! Everyone knows that you can take a USED vette and make it 1,000 HP(even though it wouldnt last for 10,000 miles) because of the STEEP DEPRECIATION that vettes are notorious for. Whats your point? If I wanted CHEAP electronics(AC Delco).........and a TURD pushrod I would buy one. I'll take 490HP and a QUALITY product that doesn't lose 50% of its value the first year, thats MUCH more of an investment. Thanks! Wake-up! GMs done!
gidsum29 2 years ago 2
lmfao, right, let me see you get an R35 at MSRP. Depreciation has nothing to do with how long a vehicle lasts. You're not very smart are you?
etb4u 2 years ago
EXACTLY! It has to do with QUALITY! I can get a R35 at MSRP. NEXT!
gidsum29 2 years ago
lmfao no you can't
etb4u 2 years ago
OK.....
gidsum29 2 years ago
Oh and quality, like all the transmissions that failed causing them to get revice the launch control?
etb4u 2 years ago
There were only like 16 transmission situations that this happened to out of 1800 cars sold in the US. The point is that you can not purchase a stock chevy or dodge that is faster than this. The exception being the ZR1 which is much more expensive. Not only that but you can make lots of cars 1000hp for less than a gtr. To add to that Nissan isn't asking the American government for a bailout. I don't think id want to buy another American vehicle for fear the companies would go belie up on me.
cvinc17 2 years ago
almost 1% is an very high failure rate for such an important part of a car. We aren't talking about seat belt fasteners. Nissan also isn't impacted by UAW and the Jobs Bank. Don't pretend to know what you're talking about on an open forum where someone can call you out on it :D
etb4u 2 years ago
Call me out? You haven't called anything out. All you have done is disagree with a previous statement that i posted with an opinion of your own believing it to more accurate than what i have stated. You don't know any more about it than anyone else here.
cvinc17 2 years ago
Its not a failure; its an ABUSE by user problem. READ!
gidsum29 2 years ago
Yeah, heaven forbid a "performance" car be able to handle a FEW hard launches.
etb4u 2 years ago
amen
redhot916spd 2 years ago
Actually it's a few hard launches from the launch Control system, repeaded use of it will cause the tranny problems. But have you choosen not to respond to my last comment, because you have nothing to come back to. Cause as it happens to be I was just really starting to come up with the facts dude. But then again usually thats how it happens with people that dont know shit. Somebody presents facts and they either deny them or they just stop arguing.
SSshane6d9 2 years ago
Try pressing the REPLY button if you want me to respond fuckwit.
gidsum29 2 years ago
Your point about the 1000HP ZR1 loosing it's value faster then the NEW GTR has no point at all. The new ZR-1 is faster at the ring then the new GTR is. So how can you say that a pushrod is a turd when it obviously pushes the ZR-1 around a track faster then what the GT-R does. Who cares if it's a pushrod or a DOHC configuration. Plus how is a GT-R better quality then a ZR-1 and why do you keep on saying about it loosing 50% of it's value. Is that all you have to argue about dude??? Seems like it
SSshane6d9 2 years ago
Are you mental? Like seriously. it'll be cheaper but you're about as bright as a 0.01Watt incandescent light bulb. It all depends on what you want it for how long it'll last etc etc. There is no comparison. You're basing your reasoning on shear ignorance which leads everyone who sees this to believe that you're 15 and still at school. In which case your opinion is invalidated as you're too young to have one.
youjutsusha 2 years ago
Try reading the rest of the thread ;) You're making the same point as I am. And, if you think you can't make reliable high horsepower cars that are still cheaper than exotics, then perhaps playing with Barbies are more your speed.
etb4u 2 years ago
that was a fantastic analogy now i clearly understand the price point and demographic scematics for both cars
dangreenwood123 2 years ago
what are u talking about fan guy?? the gt-r stock runs 9.0@160mph in the 1/4 mile top speed 270mph! c'mon don't be ignorant the 2009 zr1 runs 14.0@99mph top speed only 162mph 0-60 6.0.. gt-r rules don't u thing fan guy?
tecato666 3 years ago
ZO6??? its not in this vid and who gives a hoot how quick a zo6 zo1 is! fact is that cashed up aussies wont spend that on a vette when u can buy a 911,m3,gtr..current vettes are great fun but dont insult nissan by saying its as good..every gtr ever made has been legendary...vettes are legendary like a big mac is legendary..fills you up but not the way 2 go down here mate..we dont need or want them...fact!
fabglein 3 years ago 6
@fabglein Yeah say it we dont want his meat! lol
john13200242 1 year ago
Oh and this is a Haltech GTR35...even though it is pretty much stock that ECU did have a lil tweak up in its sleave.
fa22raptor1 3 years ago
Just get over the fact that a stock GTR is capable of running 11's.
injen2000 3 years ago
a 600 hp gtr runs 11.67 and 7:29 in nurburgring
sejodieron 3 years ago
Actually the Haltech ECU adds 20 more HP not too much but they fiddled with some stuff and got the car running at 11.1 dead stock factory ECU they run high 11's early 12's....
Saw it today on the Dyno at Autosalon in Melbourne and the guy mentioned that also from Nissan they said its high 11's to early 12's.
fa22raptor1 3 years ago
asshole with a capital A a stock gtr runs 11s all day you idiot.
camirocz 3 years ago 2
the gtr stock runs 12.6@111mph but 11.1 not bad for a modd gtr
sejodieron 3 years ago
Stock GTR will pull 11.7 exactly the same as avarage z06 time :)
Symbrio 3 years ago 2
watch?v=s-9v8Zl1FMo&feature=related
Unmodded, UNRESTRICTED (180km/h limit!) GTR
Don't talk something you don't konw.
Symbrio 3 years ago
the gt-r stock runs 11.8 12.3 12.6 top speed 190mph the z06 stock runs 10.9 11.3 11.5 top speed 200mph
sejodieron 3 years ago
Ignorant again, real american. Be proud, stars and stripes moronism. I just showed you video of GTR runing 11.69 (which hited 180km/h limit before it finished quarter, so it will go even faster) and you still write BS. But again, drag racing is moronic, on a track, z06 won't stand a chance, proven numerous times. Don't be idiotic, hombre... :/
Symbrio 3 years ago 4
the gt-r runs 12.6 and 11.8 1/4 mile
sejodieron 3 years ago
ur right, watch top gear take gtr round the track its like 3 seconds faster
bobolimasterflex 3 years ago
Don't go there. Not all of us are like this; you have your sour apples, as well. He's from Puerto Rico, anyway.
tjl7321 3 years ago
@Symbrio i hear ur argument, but how much does any car really spend its life on a track, almost 0%, vs everyday driving and 1/4 mile,dragstrip, 1 mile runs, top speed runs as well, this car has/needs 2 turbos, Z-06 is a pushrod V8, and it waxes damn near 99% of the cars on the road, and eveything n/a in V8 form, u cant beat a C6 Z06, GM did a super job on that car,
skillz1855 1 year ago
wow your a jackass for thinking that and no the zo6 does not run 10.9 and no it does not run 200mph your a idiot all together so get a life homo
enemyracing 3 years ago
the truth is every big name in auto has the gtr running 11.5 and the z06 running the same and no the top speed of it is 198 thats why they built the zr1 to be the first vette to break 200mph
bruceleeroy599 3 years ago
you are an idiot to think it runs 12.6 stock. i have a gtr and it will consistently run in the mid 11's
chrisword07 3 years ago
Is this on stock boost?
thegarynator 3 years ago
Its just an upgraded ECU nothing else
VileVengeance 3 years ago
very fast the fastest taime so far
VW R32 HPA 550BHP dose 11.7
GTRnev8820 3 years ago
Moreover if you knew how dominant the GT-R has been for the past 2 decades in the world of motorsports and among automotive tuners around the world as the performance car of choice, you wouldn't even open your silly mouth.
eikichi2009 3 years ago 4
stock my ass!! the gtr stock runs 11.7 and 12.2
sejodieron 3 years ago
damn..z06 killer times ahaha
gtr owns..
ChokeOnDeezNutz 3 years ago
If you take the relationship of cost vs price this car is a real rip off.
But I guess if you know nothing about cars and have a lot of money then this is your oppurtunity.
I can't see that making you a car person though.
zaces083 3 years ago
**Cost vs ET**
zaces083 3 years ago
Name me one other car under 100k that performs as good as the GTR?
zyou8er 3 years ago
A Foxbody with a 760 bigblock.
maxinator39 3 years ago
try taking it around a corner
dhillskier75 3 years ago 4
Well, on the street you wont be taking corners at 60 mph, its too much of a risk.
maxinator39 3 years ago
try it on a track then, fuck ur 760 big block, only thing it can do is a straight line.
dhillskier75 3 years ago 2
what kind of racing is the gtr in this vid doing?
maxinator39 3 years ago
u said that a foxbody 760 wuld perform as good as the gtr, srry to tell u but theres more to performance then the 1/4 mile
dhillskier75 3 years ago
Perform aswell, a 760 will run 6s.
And I was referring to drag racing, do to the fact that that is the kind of racing the GTR is participating in, in this video.
maxinator39 3 years ago
The GT-R obviously was not built solely for the purposes of drag racing. It's primarily engineered to out perform on a race circuit. It takes massive amounts of engineering knowledge to get a car as heavy as the GT-R to perform as extremely competently as it does on a race circuit. Anybody with a 100 IQ can take a 5.0+ liter engine and make it fast in a straight line. Nobody with a 100 IQ could engineer a car like the GT-R. The GT-R is about Japanese superior engineering.
eikichi2009 3 years ago 4
The target market of the GT-R definitely wouldn't ever, under normal circumstances, drive a Mustang. Have you seen the types of people that drive Mustangs? 99% of them wouldn't even know what a G is.
eikichi2009 3 years ago
Finally mustang guy shows up. Only a mustang fan would make a comment like that. You are comparing an old, cheap shitbox to a high tech, high performance machine. Typical mustang logic, "just drop a huge motor in it and it is just as good as anything else". Keep driving your 1986 stang if it will start and keep thinking it's better than a supercar.
giantmidget08 3 years ago 2
No I dont drive a mustang.
FOR THE MONEY, you can make an old shitty american car faster than a super car in a drag race.
I didnt say it would be better than a super car but it would certainly beat it in a DRAG RACE.
maxinator39 3 years ago
then again you can make an old civic 90's civic beat that in a drag
bruceleeroy599 3 years ago
Yes you can
I've stated on multiple occassions, that for less than 75k, you can go faster in the quarter mile.
Can you please do me a favor and read through the 5 or so comments that I've posted.
maxinator39 3 years ago
dude yes u can but the point is this is a stocker
TraxxasKing 3 years ago
Are you high?! Do you think the Z06 is a ripoff too?!
KingDavid060606 3 years ago
I want to see this car in the ALMS!!!!!!!!
deezomaxima 3 years ago
a new ecu can do a whole lot on a twin turbo car... Still, really fast, sweet car.
vipeme1 3 years ago
GTR BABY!!!
Tofuman924 3 years ago
You won at being an idiot.
Congrats.
dblazian33 3 years ago
They all do flying start....after the straight. Time begin the mid of right turn.
Formulastreet 3 years ago
dead stop teehee
WhatsaSpeedLimit 3 years ago
Hopefully the vid will shut you up :)
dblazian33 3 years ago
Must be pretty proud to have beaten a magazine crew. I heard from multiple friends that they were not good drivers.
dblazian33 3 years ago
Magazine drivers (some more than others) are notoriously bad. Especially in RWD stick car on run flats. I would expect the GT-R numbers with Auto Shifting and launch mode to be far more consistent run to run.
Vettezuki 3 years ago
well its good to see something fresh on the street u know? well hopoefully you'll run into one of them and hopefully u might test drive the GTR oneday and i do to.
bigkckrva 3 years ago
Some FYI Vettezuki...
There was a red GT-R in NJ that has a VIN and Cali plates, no "test mule" BS... It was running 11s right after hot lapping. The highest trap was 122 and lowest trap was 118 I believe.
dblazian33 3 years ago
That's very believable given the numbers these things are cranking out on the dynos. Combined with AWD and launch mode, sure. I do wonder how many hard launches it'll hold up to though? A friend spotted one near Buttonwillow not long ago. Maybe I will see one at a track someday. Yeah.
Vettezuki 3 years ago
That 11,1 second run was not really good. Launch was delayed. It could do mid 10"
GeorgeV6v24 3 years ago
i agree GeorgeV6 it can do in the high 10's and its "3800lbs with 4 seats", the funny thing is, u can do this run with 4 people in it. put the "AMUSE or MINES R35" on the 1/4 or the ONE LAP AMERICA, its pretty much a wrap!
bigkckrva 3 years ago
I don't know if you've never been to the track before, but the clock doesn't start till you cross the staging beams. You could sit there staged for a minute till you launch and this car would still have pulled an 11.1
tokes1320 3 years ago
Sshh. Don't confuse them with how the strip works. LOL.
Vettezuki 3 years ago
the reason the launch was delayed was because hes in a bracket race and the other car is slower, so they launch the faster car last. in bracket racing they usually dont launch at the exact same time unless they both dial in the same time.
Phar2Rekliss 3 years ago
nvm...the ecu was probably modified to remove the jdm speed limiter
crazymook 3 years ago 2
i'm glad to see the 11.1...but how is it 100% bone stock w/ a modified ecu...unless they kept the ecu w/ stock settings
crazymook 3 years ago
Chevy claims it should be a 7:25 car so we'll see what happens. Still a beastly car considering it traps in the 130s stock.
dblazian33 3 years ago
GM claim?? fuck the claim, show us the run on video like Nissan do, u know what i mean..and Nissan claim the V-Spec will be 10 seconds FASTER than the Standard GTR. So Euro Nissan pulled in 7:29, i guess the V-Spec should be UNDER 7:20, but we'll see though. u can look up on "google" or go to the GTR website, the FIRST run on the V-Spec GTR on the Nurb was 7:25 on a wet day...
bigkckrva 3 years ago 2
Funny we're the same age but by reading each others' replies... I'm sure people would think differently.
dblazian33 3 years ago
i don't care what anyone say...7:40 by the ZR-1 is pathetic, all that power for nothing..
bigkckrva 3 years ago
damn sure is
sycomantz 3 years ago
I'm curious to see how the ZR1 pans out. It's still a silly comparison considering the different price range however. I'd take an ACR Viper or GT2 over all of them though :D
dblazian33 3 years ago
yea true, the ZR-1 should be compared to the V-Spec Version, NOT the STANDARD GTR
bigkckrva 3 years ago
Is there a C&D VIR Lightning Lap of the GT-R yet. As far as magazine benchmarks go, this seems to be one of the best as it gives sector by sector analysis on a comprehensive track in the hands of multiple drivers. This I'd give a lot of credibility to. And yeah, the ACR is wicked.
Vettezuki 3 years ago
my bad on my comments, i miss print a few words, lol..
bigkckrva 3 years ago
I'll say that Nissan's reliability as far as an entire line is probably better than Chevy BUT the LSx motors are far from unreliable.
BTW, you say you have an 07 350ZTT although there aren't any actual mass produced kits for it. I'm curious as to what shop did the work because I know of a few shops that have done it so far. Whp/psi/type of dyno? And there is a REASON they are just getting TT'd 07+ Zs.
dblazian33 3 years ago
i have 350Z TT and Z32TT, ONLY the 350z not fully built all the way. i have a guy out near my way that can easily do it (whatever price u get he'll beat it), he does my work on my Z32 performance, he does everything in his garage, i just order the parts. im not really done with my 350Z TT i haven't touch the motor beside intake and switch my exhaust (HKS) by october or November i should be done, hopefully. Only my Z32 is finish from turbo to motor and HKS Hyper Exhaust.
bigkckrva 3 years ago
So you're in the process of TT and not actually TT'd? Are you doing a custom kit or something? Like I said, there are no "mass produced" kits besides GTM or custom. I know someone that has done it but they're not local to me. I'm the wrong 350Z to try to fool :)
dblazian33 3 years ago
theres no neeed to fool anybody fool, u can go to "Z1-Motorsports" out in Georgia and u can get a TT KIT from them and they're do dyno with that as well. u can look them up? u can go with HKS 2530 GT but of course u can go with GREDDY TT KIT as well or Power Enterprise TT KIT, i dunno where u get this idea of NO "MASS PRODUCED", you kind of late aren't u?? thats all they do is SPECIALIZE Z's, 350Z, and G35..anything u can do to the 350Z? u can do the same for the G35 Coupe.
bigkckrva 3 years ago
Sorry buddy, if there were mass produced TT kits for 2007 Zs, there would be a LOT more 2007 Zs TT'd by now. Trust me I know... The 07+ doesn't even have the same motor as the 03-06 which is why I asked. I know of the kits by PE, SFR, APS, HKS, Greddy, Sound Performance, JWT, Turbonetics, Powerlab... you get the point. Don't tell me I'm late and BTW... I was at Zdayz at Z1 Motorsports party at their cabin,
I don't have to look them up. Anything else you'd like to add?
dblazian33 3 years ago
the turbos i got for my 350Z is the Greddy TT KIT, but i haven't install it yet, im basically waiting for the warranty is up. thats even better for me cuz, i just need a few more things and im good. im already done with my 96'Z32TT, i have a different turbo set up than the 350Z. i have the 2530 GT turbos in it. to many modds to list, but u get the picture. check out "Z1-Motorsport", they also have deals and stuff..
bigkckrva 3 years ago
I have a friend who has a 350ZTT... 592whp on pump gas.
dblazian33 3 years ago
Wow! Super low comp motor? Methanol injection?
Vettezuki 3 years ago
Built bottom end and cams, not sure what the comp is though. Possibly 8.5 or 9.5 but that's just pump gas... no meth injection. He doesn't feel the need to get a race gas tune lol. If you click my username, I have a video that I recorded for him. Super nice car and very fast.
dblazian33 3 years ago
I'd be curious to know the build stats. The numbers don't quite work in my head. To get to that kind of WHP on a Z motor, you'd need something like >= 30psi? You aren't doing that on pump gas. LOL.
Vettezuki 3 years ago
Negative, we don't drive Hondas :D
Typical build really, pistons, rods, nonsleeved block, and aftermarket cams and stock heads. He daily drives on 10psi though so somewhere around 475whp.
dblazian33 3 years ago
Hey I know some 900WHP 1.8L Hondas . . . on 50lbs. LOL.
The magic must be in the cams. 10psi on the stock 350Z isn't going to put you anywhere near 475WHP.
Vettezuki 3 years ago
I can show you the dyno from 6psi to 15psi if you'd like. I've ridden in this car plenty of times and he's practically my best friend. The shop that did the work is one of the best 350Z shops in the US. Cams do help a good bit for boosted Zs :)
I can also show you a stroked Z making 600hp at 10psi if you'd like :p
dblazian33 3 years ago
well thats good then, i prolly won't get my that high anyway, i just don't like leaving it stock so, i haven't even put it in yet so its all good though. i got this Greddy Kit from a friend like a month and half ago, it still fresh. only my Z32 is good, im not going to put to much money into it, just a few upgrade here and there so thats it for me, i still have low miles in it, i barely even touch the car. good looking out though, i thought all motor was the same from 03-07'.
bigkckrva 3 years ago
No problem... the 07+ motor seems like it will be beastly boosted compared to the older motors. My roommate has a Z32TT :)
dblazian33 3 years ago
alrite let me know if u know a good turbo kit for it...
bigkckrva 3 years ago
Who cares about the 1/4 anyway... at least the GT-R handles it own when it comes to the twisties. Considering all this talk about the Z06... I'd like one of you to tell me that you've personally ran a 10 in stock Z06... I'm sure most of you can't drive worth a crap anyway.
dblazian33 3 years ago
There are only a couple great drivers who've hit high 10s in a stock C6Z. But it has been done, on run flats no less. The average C6Z runs mid 11s in the low 120s. My guess is that a heads up race in the 1/4 between an average GT-R and C6Z would be neck and neck. If it were a high speed run, the Vette would walk it past the quarter (even the mags say that). Courses will depend very heavily on the actual course, driver and tires. We'll see. Hopefully some of the GT-R fans will actually run them.
Vettezuki 3 years ago
Thank you... finally a realistic post (being I didn't read much). When do people realize that just because a few people ran a certain time doesn't mean that it is the norm. It at least shows the capability of the car, unfortunately driver skill is the most important thing.
dblazian33 3 years ago
to be honest with ya? in the VA/DC area, u can't even hit above 65-70mph around here, (TOO MANY STATE TROOPER) let say if the GTR was racing a Vette in the highwahy?? if the GTR is leading after a mile?? i would slow down, cuz theres no point of killing myself u know? the Vette can keep racing against itself, and hit top speed all it want, but im not getting pulled over. of course the limit top speed is 193mph, with HKS ECU..u can surpass 193 to ALL the way up to 220mph EASILY.
bigkckrva 3 years ago
Fanboy, now you're betraying your ignorance. The GT-R top speed is redline limited, not power limited. More power, and you'll get to 193 faster, but you won't go faster. Upping the factory set engine redline is asking for disaster. The strength of the GT-R in straight line acceleration is from a dig with its launch control and AWD, from a roll, the Z walks it. This is based strictly on mag numbers (suspicious as they are).
Vettezuki 3 years ago
asking for disaster what u mean buddy? suspicious as they are? u perfer the US Mags or Euro Mags or the Japs Mag?? ALL of them telling the same shit, if u can do any better, maybe u should go around ask for Z06 and borrow from a owner and prove US GTR fans wrong? of course everything is limited for a reason, and Nissan say, the stock set up is the perfect set up? of course u have companys like MINES, AMUSE, TOP SECRET, MCR, HKS, GREDDY, NISMO, will DECODE that, its already been done..
bigkckrva 3 years ago
Rotating assemblies have maximum potential rotation speeds before they come apart. If you just go and arbitrarily up the redline set by the manufacturer you're asking the engine to self destruct. I encourage you to test this on your car if you don't believe me. As for the mags, I remember a number of times when stated HP and performance ratings from the Mags turned out to be . . . mmm, less than accurate in production models.
Vettezuki 3 years ago
im sure im not going to kill the GTR engine as soon i sit in the car. Before the GTR is sold to its owner, Nissan TEST EVERY GTR on the track, making sure the car is breaking in well, as for the GTR engine BREAKING APART?? im sure it will last LONGER than a Vette engine. and as for HP figures on the GTR? just check out "R35 Dynoed" by MotorTrend on youtube..with drivetrain efficency, with 15% loss the GTR is pushing over 507HP and with 25% loss, the GTR is pushing over 570HP and 560lb-ft..
bigkckrva 3 years ago
Why are you sure it'll last longer than a Vette engine? Have they been in the field for 10+ years? As for HP, you mean that it's putting out more than the advertised 480BHP (a LOT more)? Why is Nissan lying in its advertised specs? The days when this worked with insurance companies are long gone. Will the customer cars get these HP levels? You're going to get one right? I'll set up a race for you.
Vettezuki 3 years ago
MOST "ALL" Nissan V6 Engine LAST longer than a Chevy engine, its the MASTER of "V6". from the Nissan 300ZX (VG30DETT) to the Nissan Skyline GTR R32-R34 (RB26DETT) last over 10 years and still running strong. Nissan been lying about their HP configuration for a long time now and u now just notice this?? even R34 owners dyoned got well over 350-400HP even with "gentlement agreement 280HP", even the 300ZXTT (90-95)(300HP) was whoopin on the Vettes back in the days.
bigkckrva 3 years ago
Where's your data for durability? There are plenty of GenI V8s that have been on the road for more than 30 (hard) years. I personally know of LS motors well beyond 100,000 miles that are driven hard. There was an article in C&D (Maybe R&T) about a Vette Mule that had over 100,000 miles in just a couple years, many from laps at the Ring and hard launches all on the same driveline. Then they took on a tour of dirt roads in Alaska (more like Rally). Problems were none.
Vettezuki 3 years ago
Correct... it's redline limited.
I don't know anyone that plans on racing from 0-190 lol
dblazian33 3 years ago
Yeah, not many. But there are things like 0-200-0 at the Silver State Classic, or flat out top speed at Bonneville, etc. Nissan was brilliant in their gearing and tire selection.
Vettezuki 3 years ago
Yes ALL GTR owners who own the GTR will have more than 480HP even though its advertise as 480HP. i feel like, the reason Nissan lied about their HP is becuz, MORE HP configuration MORE MONEY on the GTR, the Chief of Nissan said.."the GTR is for the people, not just for HIGH END people, we doing this for the people, i don't understand why the SuperCars Company is over pricing their cars" Jap Spec stock boost (10.2) and U.S & Euro Spec has (11.8). 480HP is rated on the flywheel i belive..
bigkckrva 3 years ago
Well, so much "for the people". Markups are looking like they'll be between 20,000 - 50,000 USD. That puts it way beyond Vette prices and up towards Turbo Porsche prices. If Nissan was serious about "for the people", they would have made more than 2,500 a year for the US. It's a halo car pure and simple.
Vettezuki 3 years ago
C'mon u know the Dealer is going to make their money? what do u expect?? Carlos Ghosen said it during his GTR Promo Tour, said the GTR is going to be 71k Top of Line, and go on sale in US Market by June 1. its not his fault if the Dealer decide to make an extra 15-20k, overall its going to be close to 100k. look at the Z06 price overseas? the Z06 is WAAY expensive in Japan, nearly 150k, and the GTR is EVEN ChEAPER in Japan, so it depend where u are in the States.
bigkckrva 3 years ago
Corvette prices over seas are almost completely because of import Tariffs. This I know for a fact. The US does not have Socialist import tarrifs and hence similar pricing to origin. I don't blame dealers for marking them up here. Just that if Nissan really wanted to build an everyman's supercar, they'd build a lot more of them. It's a halo car intended to support the brand. I get it. Corvettes, however, are made in much larger numbers and truly affordable to the middle class.
Vettezuki 3 years ago
yea i feel ya, since u out in California?? theres a couple owners who own the R35 GTR. check out "R35 J-Spec in the US" its on Youtube, the guy who owns it is in L.A, its a Black Color R35, maybe you'll run into someday.....
bigkckrva 3 years ago
Thanks for the tip. I'll check it out.
Vettezuki 3 years ago
alrite...they're out there somewhere in California driving around..
bigkckrva 3 years ago
All u gotta do is look up "R35 Dynoed" its on youtube, then u should have an idea how many HP is pushing out and its done by MotorTrend. Also the Nissan 300ZXTT holds the Top Speed at Bonneville back then, as for me getting the R35?? i'll waited out for alittle cuz thousands still haven't got theirs yet, so im cool for rite now with my MODD 96'Z32TT & 07 350ZTT. as for u setting a place and time to race when i do get a GTR? im not going to waste my time looking for U, u can catch me out at I-95
bigkckrva 3 years ago