I hate iPhone and Apple's products. Cheep products made in China by slave laborers working in very bad conditions. The success of the iPhone is just due to a powerful marketing strategy and to a well-done American media propaganda, that's all. There were/are so many other products that can easily compete Apple's ones.
u either get cheap iphone and shut up or u either pay more ( could be in thousands) and help out those workers... so if u purchase ur cheaper ( current) price iphone dont talk shit about apple cuz u have taken advantage of the workers ur just as guilty it would be ironic and blunt for u to accuse of apple. if u want to help the workers and talk shit about apple just dont buy it till apple change its factory and wait till apple costs raise dramatically then buy it.
@SPS148669 I have to say i agree. Steve chose slave labor to increase profits. He is not honorable. I am from the USA. I am white. I am a veteran. I loved what Steve Jobs did for the industry. He was a rare visionary. That does not excuse the abuse of humans to put your products together.
@john123wayne dude if u had a little bit of brain , ud know that every corporation uses asia as a work hand , thats obvious... its been going on for years
@BlindLightbulb one suicide per month is outstandingly terrible for a single facility. Just keep blindly buying Apple products. They're shiny and the have light-up apples on them. and if 1 person has to end their life each month to get a shiny gadget to you, then so be it (what your comment says to me). No matter what anybody says, and no matter what compelling evidence anybody has against apple, you and the people like you will still stand in line for new iPhones.
@sledding5630 If there are actually 500,000 people working for Apple chinese facilities, it means 2.4 suicides per 100,000. I don´t know the chinese suicide rate, but in Europe it is around 10-20 suicides per 100,000 inhabitants. This sounds like the France Telecom story in 2009, where the suicide rate was below the national average.
they treat Philippine maids like slaves, pay ridiculous salaries and then complain about Apple? I couldn't believe when I talked with a maid who described how she's treated and left to sleep in the cold floor when there are more beds available!!
a friend of mine supplies internal parts to Apple and says that Apple pays very well to the suppliers. His factory is in China as well.
they treat Philippine maids like slaves, pay ridiculous salaries and then complain about Apple? I couldn't believe when I talked with a maid who described how she's treated and left to sleep in the cold floor when there are more beds available!!
a friend of mine supplies internal parts to Apple and says that Apple pays very well to the suppliers. His factory is in China as well.
If you think apple paid high, then why apple choose to produce the iphone in China But NOT IN USA?Because, the moron, Job Steve knew that he has to pay more for the same job if produce in USA.a friend of mine supplies internal parts to Apple and says that Apple pays very low to the suppliers. His factory is in China as well.I can tell u that the Philippines are very appreciate their life in HK. Do u think HK treat them bad. Do research before writting comment.
The iPhone got robbed on me and somewhat I'm happy because after finding out what Foxconn are doing to Chinese workers, I feel sick! It's atrocious! I love smartphones but the iPhone isn't the only one. HTC's phones are better! :D
Damn, these people supposedly on average get paid 300 a month. An Igod sells for 500. How many people does it take to assemble one. Let's say 5 or maybe one can do it. How many do they assemble in one month, definitely not just one. Talk about a massive profit margin. All i'm getting at here is people don't care how a product is made, they just care about getting it and feeling cool about themselves.
@jvforever72 : Well, you also have to account for the fact that the cost of living is much lower in China and that Foxconn employs mostly young, unskilled workers who come from lower stratum of their economic ladder. Chinese workers at Foxconn don't intend to spend their life there, in the same way that most kids working summer jobs at fast-food chains in US don't.
Foxconn's profit margin is very small, approx. 4-6%, while Apple supposedly makes some 40-60%.
I was recently contemplating suicide after yet another wave of Apple hype. That was dark humor. I'm sorry those people took their lives. I do wonder how much they make and under what conditions they work. Apple must be marking up their products 1000 percent.
Apple is a complete pile of crap, that just embelishes it's products with useless multimedia frills which are available elsewhere, free, and better.
Apple sells hardware that is corrupted, so that it will just take their Mac OS/X operating system.
Buy a PC with original manufacturers components, that have constantly updated drivers for windows and other operating systems such as Linux, which is free and of high quality. Linux is good because it is dynamically and readily improved.
@divinacomedias actually you can also install Windows XP, Windows Vista or Linux on a Apple Mac via Boot Camp On OS X! Just proves how much research you've done there!
Apple does not pay these workers, Foxcon does. Foxcon is contracted to build products from Apple. So I would think Foxcon is blame here. Hey, don't work then. Get a new job if you don't like it. Be happy you have a job.
I hope this situation gets fixed. I hate to see people over worked. Hell sometimes I feel overworked. But I can't say it will stop me from buying the phone. I'm sorry for them though. Anyway I'm sure apple isn't the only company abusing them they are just the most popular.
11 people out of the 522,000 workers at Foxconn hardly sounds like an epidemic. that's like 0.002% of the company. Remember that China itself has over a quarter million suicides a year on it's own. Just doing some quick math, the national average of suicides is slightly greater than the average at Foxconn. One could argue Foxconn is reducing suicides vs the national average. This is almost a non story.
If these workers were in USA they would be living under a bridge with no possibility of finding work since they have no education. Basically, they represent the Louisiana population.
I don't know, they are manufacturing/assembling sophisticated gadgets, i wouldn't call them dumb, exploited is more like it. Before you can say anyone can do it, think about the fail rate of the products they produce. Most times it's the software's fault no the hardware concerning apple products
Its not that they are dumb or exploited its that they have jobs. You never hear a story about how "exploited" the Louisiana or Michigan population is.
this just goes to show china is not truly socialist, and it is leaning on capitalism for its economic growth. when you betray your cause, this is what happens.
if the people of china dont revive the Society of Righteous and Harmonious Fists and fight they will die. im talkin about the real chinese, not them food service sellouts.
we blame these corporations and companies too much. WE R GIVING THEM POWER! each man and woman that goes on that factory does so out of fear and greed! the same goes for those mine workers who knew it wasnt safe but were 2 scared to speak up. each and every 1 of u that refuse to face fear and stand up r the only targets of the "illuminati". and it will not be their fault when u die. they gave u plenty of time to change.
@solojam any regulation which the government of China enforces need to be made to Foxconn not Apple, HP, Nokia, Cisco or any other company who uses this manufacturing plant! The suicides have mainly been caused by the companies management treating their employees badly!
@AmericanMale1953 U.S. never had 100% capitalism, and for the past 100 years it has certainly not had capitalism. It has had corporatism, which is when BIG corporations and BIG government work together behind the scenes to screw people over. Corproations will buy off politicians, then the bought politicians pass laws to force cheap labor, and those laws are kept enforced by cops. In TRUE capitalism, no government is allowed to help a business stay in business unless consumers choose to buy...
@LifeLibertyNow I hear you but no one has ever gotten as close to true Liberty as the USA. I started out as a dirt-poor disadvantaged and undereducated child only to make over 100K per year for over ten years in a row from 1995 through 2005. That will probably not happen again for me but it will never happen ONCE in countries like China. BTW with the money I made I donated heavily to many charities. Just my story.... "Corporatism was probably better then Capitalism"
is it to much to ask for laws and regulatory bodies that protect Chinese workers? how many decades has this been the case in labour exploited countries..
the truth about outsourcing is you get gangster slave drivers running the manufacturing plants which are contracted by the big names... whatever your standards are in America simply don't apply in countries where people are payed literally peanuts and work 12-18 not to mention the child labour, sex abuse, physical psychological etc
This is why I don't understand libertarians. okay let's deregulate shit and turn into China. Let's see you working day and night getting your fingers chopped off in machines.
@GGLebo23 LIBERTARIANS I AM A LIBERTARIAN AND THIS IS ABOUT SLAVERY NOT REGULATIONS THESE PEOPLE ARE INDEBTED AND MUST WORK FOR 10 DOLLARS A DAY. I AM IN THE METAL FINISHING INDUSTRY AND I RECENTLY LOST A MAJOR CONTRACT THAT I WAS MERELY MAKING 1% ON I CANNOT POLISH AND BUFF 2SQ. FT. FOR 4 CENTS YES 4 CENTS
IT COST ME 1.00 TO POLISH AND 2.00 TO BUFF THIS IS WITH SKIMPING ON SUPPLIES AND USING ELIGAL MEXICAN LABOR.INDUSTRY MUST BE REGULATED TO KEEP IWORKERS SAFE NOT TO UNIONIZE.
nobody from the aristocrats in this capitalistic system is actually taking care of the ordinary workers. Nobody really cares as long as they are making the products, meeting their production targets, and making revenue for the company. This is the business of american companies all over the world. As long as they are making money they dont care about the people (Apple), about the nature (BP). All they care for are money. World needs a change.
@trinomialtree world is fine that way? this just indicates that you must be a rich person enjoying this unequal system like that. World is by no means fine like that.
It takes along time to instigate such major changes mentally for a nation that has been so long suppressed, but they are making efforts in the right direction.
On the other hand America land of the free is talking major quicksteps backwards into suppression.
hong kong was a great place b4 because everyone was focused on making money and not politics. tell me why a place which was a colony for 99 years and with only 8 million people, half of which are poor, needs universal suffrage and politics.
all the poor people need to be deported to anhui - they are a welfare drain. all political activists need to be executed - they are destroying the fabric of society.
Steve Jobs behaving like a fucking Jew , I wonder what his true background is. That's right cunt , send what should be American jobs over to the other wage slaves in China who are worse off than the wage slaves of The "Democratic" West. If you are guilty then you deserve the illness God has sent you !
We need to bring these jobs back to America by taxing corporations that outsource and not taxing the ones that keep their operations on American soil. Buy only made in USA products! Its the only way to revive our dead economy...No bailout or Gov subsidy will ever help this depression our national debt has exceeded our GDP this month!
if u dont have enough money in china it means ur starving and almost every one in china has huge amounts of depts and mostly are involved in a load shark
Foxconn is garage. And now they want there employee's to sign paperwork saying that they won't commit suicide. Two pay raises WOW that's really going to help idiots.
Maybe it's time for the Chinese to cut out the evil American middleman and develope their own market. Shit, they have the 1 billion persons for trade! Globalization has been such a disaster for most of humanity!
@kjb86 yea i know but have you seen the new ipad? its so groovy!! and i look real hip and cool with it in starbucks! no one else has got one yet in my starbucks they are still using iphones, so retro!
I don't understand what's the buzz about since all wages for manufacturing in China are slave wages.This is usual business for the their homegrown industries.
sorry to ruin it for you but the bad guys will go very far to gain your trust then lead you towards a cliff. i'm being a smart fish i'm getting the food/info from the hook without getting caught.
Just another case of American corporations wanting it both ways.
"We're an American corporations. We expect the best top of the line products from you but are only willing to pay slave wages. We expect there will be no safety defects or bad press about working conditions. Basically, we're asking you to perform miracles."
"Ummm. yeah."
The PRC gov't can't be everywhere. The task of routinely inspecting factories would require an army of bureaucrats. The USA doesn't even inspect oil rigs.
Foxconn is a TAIWANESE company. Taiwan claims it is so much more democratic, free, and equal compared to the mainland communists. So the relationship is Apple, American company, contracts out to Foxconn, Taiwanese company, who has manufacturing plants in China.
This is a new trend where the Chinese are going to start taking care of themselves instead of propping up the USA economy. Worker strikes are also happening at Chinese Honda plants.
Don't say Apple has nothing to do with it. Apple like all corporations shops for the lowest price supplier. Do you really think Apple has no idea what these people are paid?
its not apple's fault, thats why the contract out the manufacturing. want to send a real message? boycott all products the factory produces, which from what i understand includes wii and ps3 and xbox
Oh theres many reasons why people are killing themselves Crappy wages,Crappy work conditions ,dislipline classes if they talk or even yawn during work and theres even more reasons that are far worse.Apple only cares about its products and profits not about its under paid slaves
@OZtwo steve ordered pay raises after the suicides, cuz u know, money makes up for the lives lost. sounds like BP, just saying sorry and paying and its all better now i guess.
@thisshitrighthereee O yes, yes, I understand that, but this is Communist China where I can't think up anything to type since it sounds like us here in the US of A really..again..another hmmmmmmm. :)
@thisshitrighthereee If you just talk trash, don't talk at all.. Because what you're saying about Steve right now is total bullshit... Just saying. Have a good day.
How many Chinese goy equal one Applie iPhone.This and many more horrifying statistics are our new world economy.People in China have been sacrificed so that the princelings of the Communist Party can rest easier in their wonderful beds.Stand up Chinese who no longer want to be slaves.
well done china. now you realise the real price for making people work like circus monkeys just so you can undercut other countires lobour rates.
kookoopops1 1 week ago
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kookoopops1 1 week ago
i remmeber when i took this photo, i was thinking i would be a stand up individual, I am, but not in the "normal" sense
caessarion 1 week ago
I hate iPhone and Apple's products. Cheep products made in China by slave laborers working in very bad conditions. The success of the iPhone is just due to a powerful marketing strategy and to a well-done American media propaganda, that's all. There were/are so many other products that can easily compete Apple's ones.
ahmedsahraouichannel 2 weeks ago
Yes, but if they stop this completely, they will make even less money - farming, etc.
Thomas8april 2 weeks ago
u either get cheap iphone and shut up or u either pay more ( could be in thousands) and help out those workers... so if u purchase ur cheaper ( current) price iphone dont talk shit about apple cuz u have taken advantage of the workers ur just as guilty it would be ironic and blunt for u to accuse of apple. if u want to help the workers and talk shit about apple just dont buy it till apple change its factory and wait till apple costs raise dramatically then buy it.
7lol2007 3 months ago
YAY! Steve Jobs is dead. That scumbag got Karma comming to him for being so greedy.
SPS148669 4 months ago
@SPS148669 I have to say i agree. Steve chose slave labor to increase profits. He is not honorable. I am from the USA. I am white. I am a veteran. I loved what Steve Jobs did for the industry. He was a rare visionary. That does not excuse the abuse of humans to put your products together.
john123wayne 4 months ago 10
@john123wayne dude if u had a little bit of brain , ud know that every corporation uses asia as a work hand , thats obvious... its been going on for years
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@ChocolatersPancake well it looks like someone is paying attention
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xpratrziho6771 10 months ago
China likes to insult apple bcos apple factories treat them like slaves
macintosh3823 11 months ago
steve jobs is the devil reincarnate...what a d-bag
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thinkhired 1 year ago
Jobs has no credibility.
He's partnered with Murdoch. Enough said.
Hope his cancer continues to rot his brain.
stackjones1 1 year ago
@stackjones1 Dude you are despicable...
denni342 1 year ago
Media just love making it sound horrible :S
HampeT42 1 year ago
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Duuckie 1 year ago 9
500,000 people work at the Foxxconn factory. There have been 12 suicides this year, that is much less than that of a typical city.
BlindLightbulb 1 year ago
@BlindLightbulb one suicide per month is outstandingly terrible for a single facility. Just keep blindly buying Apple products. They're shiny and the have light-up apples on them. and if 1 person has to end their life each month to get a shiny gadget to you, then so be it (what your comment says to me). No matter what anybody says, and no matter what compelling evidence anybody has against apple, you and the people like you will still stand in line for new iPhones.
sledding5630 1 year ago
@sledding5630 If there are actually 500,000 people working for Apple chinese facilities, it means 2.4 suicides per 100,000. I don´t know the chinese suicide rate, but in Europe it is around 10-20 suicides per 100,000 inhabitants. This sounds like the France Telecom story in 2009, where the suicide rate was below the national average.
xaviqaz 1 year ago
lol nuff said never walking with still in hong kong lol
MrTKDTV 1 year ago
Does China also issued wlan feature?
gopgopcan 1 year ago
Dont think apple had paid high for China producer.
If they can pay high, then why didnt produce that rubbish in their own country, USA?
Everyone, plz be a smart consumer. Do u all think it's worth to pay 600~900USD to buy a rubbish phone that prduced in estream low cost?
Just can tell u all that, your 550~850USD is then going to feed the bastard, JOB STEVE.
Apple , plz stop your stupid fucking trick.
UtubeNI 1 year ago 3
isuicide is working!!
arulflorance 1 year ago
@meankookoo assembly in California? OK,if like this ,will be very expensive.
GuangYuZhang 1 year ago
Even with Apple's products being made in a sweatshop they're still a rip off. $30 for a piece of fucking plastic bumper?
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funny Hong Kong people!!
they treat Philippine maids like slaves, pay ridiculous salaries and then complain about Apple? I couldn't believe when I talked with a maid who described how she's treated and left to sleep in the cold floor when there are more beds available!!
a friend of mine supplies internal parts to Apple and says that Apple pays very well to the suppliers. His factory is in China as well.
treta99 1 year ago
funny Hong Kong people!!
they treat Philippine maids like slaves, pay ridiculous salaries and then complain about Apple? I couldn't believe when I talked with a maid who described how she's treated and left to sleep in the cold floor when there are more beds available!!
a friend of mine supplies internal parts to Apple and says that Apple pays very well to the suppliers. His factory is in China as well.
treta99 1 year ago
@treta99
If you think apple paid high, then why apple choose to produce the iphone in China But NOT IN USA?Because, the moron, Job Steve knew that he has to pay more for the same job if produce in USA.a friend of mine supplies internal parts to Apple and says that Apple pays very low to the suppliers. His factory is in China as well.I can tell u that the Philippines are very appreciate their life in HK. Do u think HK treat them bad. Do research before writting comment.
UtubeNI 1 year ago 3
no one cares for the fate of labor as long as people get their instant gratification
BananaBean03 1 year ago 3
This shows how greedy the business man Steve Jobs earn massive profit and creasing unfairness world.
Fuck off Iphone. Get rid off my country. MORON !!!
UtubeNI 1 year ago
The iPhone got robbed on me and somewhat I'm happy because after finding out what Foxconn are doing to Chinese workers, I feel sick! It's atrocious! I love smartphones but the iPhone isn't the only one. HTC's phones are better! :D
GaeilgeSpraoi 1 year ago
get your imac and meet me at starbucks!!!
gelfington 1 year ago
HAHAHA THEY GOT A PAYRAISE!
Now how of a obvious payoff to shut them up is that?
puttefnask 1 year ago
Damn, these people supposedly on average get paid 300 a month. An Igod sells for 500. How many people does it take to assemble one. Let's say 5 or maybe one can do it. How many do they assemble in one month, definitely not just one. Talk about a massive profit margin. All i'm getting at here is people don't care how a product is made, they just care about getting it and feeling cool about themselves.
jvforever72 1 year ago
@jvforever72 : Well, you also have to account for the fact that the cost of living is much lower in China and that Foxconn employs mostly young, unskilled workers who come from lower stratum of their economic ladder. Chinese workers at Foxconn don't intend to spend their life there, in the same way that most kids working summer jobs at fast-food chains in US don't.
Foxconn's profit margin is very small, approx. 4-6%, while Apple supposedly makes some 40-60%.
tooltalk 1 year ago
I was recently contemplating suicide after yet another wave of Apple hype. That was dark humor. I'm sorry those people took their lives. I do wonder how much they make and under what conditions they work. Apple must be marking up their products 1000 percent.
jvforever72 1 year ago
Apple is a complete pile of crap, that just embelishes it's products with useless multimedia frills which are available elsewhere, free, and better.
Apple sells hardware that is corrupted, so that it will just take their Mac OS/X operating system.
Buy a PC with original manufacturers components, that have constantly updated drivers for windows and other operating systems such as Linux, which is free and of high quality. Linux is good because it is dynamically and readily improved.
Spend WISE!
divinacomedias 1 year ago
@divinacomedias actually you can also install Windows XP, Windows Vista or Linux on a Apple Mac via Boot Camp On OS X! Just proves how much research you've done there!
NeilKeo77 11 months ago
Apple does not pay these workers, Foxcon does. Foxcon is contracted to build products from Apple. So I would think Foxcon is blame here. Hey, don't work then. Get a new job if you don't like it. Be happy you have a job.
StephenRooker 1 year ago
I hope this situation gets fixed. I hate to see people over worked. Hell sometimes I feel overworked. But I can't say it will stop me from buying the phone. I'm sorry for them though. Anyway I'm sure apple isn't the only company abusing them they are just the most popular.
bklynsbabyboy 1 year ago
11 people out of the 522,000 workers at Foxconn hardly sounds like an epidemic. that's like 0.002% of the company. Remember that China itself has over a quarter million suicides a year on it's own. Just doing some quick math, the national average of suicides is slightly greater than the average at Foxconn. One could argue Foxconn is reducing suicides vs the national average. This is almost a non story.
MrXstacey 1 year ago
@MrXstacey You either want to or already do work for Apple.
rzee 1 year ago
If these workers were in USA they would be living under a bridge with no possibility of finding work since they have no education. Basically, they represent the Louisiana population.
PostBush 1 year ago 2
@PostBush
I don't know, they are manufacturing/assembling sophisticated gadgets, i wouldn't call them dumb, exploited is more like it. Before you can say anyone can do it, think about the fail rate of the products they produce. Most times it's the software's fault no the hardware concerning apple products
jvforever72 1 year ago
@jvforever72
Its not that they are dumb or exploited its that they have jobs. You never hear a story about how "exploited" the Louisiana or Michigan population is.
PostBush 1 year ago
Freddy Kruger did it!
dinogrower 1 year ago 2
@dinogrower - LOL!
MarmiteMan4 1 year ago
Steve jobs already said that suicide rates were higher in US than at the facility.
moltar2000 1 year ago
Apple is way over priced and they are too greedy to actually pay their workers abroad decent wages, it makes me sick!
I am starting to love RT Today by the way!
seancuk23 1 year ago 3
personal opinion seeing into the situation.
they maybe in poor conditions for us who are luckier to be in better places in the world.
but to them, its already a luxury to be given this type of work.
its good pay in their country and i'm not saying we shouldn't do anything about it.
i'm just saying we are looking at fixing it while going in the wrong direction.
third work country workers work in these conditions in hope to get a better life for there future generations.
yiubun 1 year ago
How come no one talks about, where steve jobs got, his liver from. Hmmm...
M14Mann 1 year ago
抵制Iphone
tomatokaka 1 year ago
this just goes to show china is not truly socialist, and it is leaning on capitalism for its economic growth. when you betray your cause, this is what happens.
NavidZady 1 year ago
if the people of china dont revive the Society of Righteous and Harmonious Fists and fight they will die. im talkin about the real chinese, not them food service sellouts.
bezzly 1 year ago
we blame these corporations and companies too much. WE R GIVING THEM POWER! each man and woman that goes on that factory does so out of fear and greed! the same goes for those mine workers who knew it wasnt safe but were 2 scared to speak up. each and every 1 of u that refuse to face fear and stand up r the only targets of the "illuminati". and it will not be their fault when u die. they gave u plenty of time to change.
bezzly 1 year ago
they just can quit the job..why wanna took their own lives? stupid!!!!
mudenx 1 year ago
Steve Jobs is a ruthless motherfucker so I can definitely see this happening.
sniper6081 1 year ago
KILLUMINATI
chokingmessiah 1 year ago
This is apples fault as opposed to China's?
harr77 1 year ago
buy pc!
reashot 1 year ago 2
how can you blame a company for worker suicides? Seems like a pathetic attempt to find a blame in such meaning less life taking.
canadianbacon78 1 year ago
Shut up and ship my Iphone 4G ; )
murk2002 1 year ago
What a sleazeball company, both in and outside of the tech industry. I've never owned an iPod (or any other Apple product) and I never will.
ManiacalMichael504 1 year ago 3
This made me want to drop my iPhone!
Nice supply chain monitoring job Apple!
Bastards!
brotherjupiter 1 year ago
Globalization hard at work!
Johnalexgray 1 year ago
lol, dumb chinese. if you dont fucking wanna work in sweatshops, make your own fucking products then.
YourLordliness 1 year ago
How bout the government of china make the regulations so apple cannot get away with it.
solojam 1 year ago 3
@solojam any regulation which the government of China enforces need to be made to Foxconn not Apple, HP, Nokia, Cisco or any other company who uses this manufacturing plant! The suicides have mainly been caused by the companies management treating their employees badly!
NeilKeo77 11 months ago
the face of capitalism
OrphanPaper 1 year ago
Capitalism out of control! Jobs the slum labor guy!
AmericanMale1953 1 year ago 21
@AmericanMale1953 U.S. never had 100% capitalism, and for the past 100 years it has certainly not had capitalism. It has had corporatism, which is when BIG corporations and BIG government work together behind the scenes to screw people over. Corproations will buy off politicians, then the bought politicians pass laws to force cheap labor, and those laws are kept enforced by cops. In TRUE capitalism, no government is allowed to help a business stay in business unless consumers choose to buy...
LifeLibertyNow 4 months ago
@LifeLibertyNow I hear you but no one has ever gotten as close to true Liberty as the USA. I started out as a dirt-poor disadvantaged and undereducated child only to make over 100K per year for over ten years in a row from 1995 through 2005. That will probably not happen again for me but it will never happen ONCE in countries like China. BTW with the money I made I donated heavily to many charities. Just my story.... "Corporatism was probably better then Capitalism"
AmericanMale1953 3 months ago
it doesn't really matter too much china are one of the most populated countries so it won't make a huge difference.
Bradley2493 1 year ago
is it to much to ask for laws and regulatory bodies that protect Chinese workers? how many decades has this been the case in labour exploited countries..
Th3Wab3 1 year ago
the truth about outsourcing is you get gangster slave drivers running the manufacturing plants which are contracted by the big names... whatever your standards are in America simply don't apply in countries where people are payed literally peanuts and work 12-18 not to mention the child labour, sex abuse, physical psychological etc
Th3Wab3 1 year ago
Very sad,
yet unsurprising.
legalizethegreen 1 year ago
This is why I don't understand libertarians. okay let's deregulate shit and turn into China. Let's see you working day and night getting your fingers chopped off in machines.
GGLebo23 1 year ago
@GGLebo23 LIBERTARIANS I AM A LIBERTARIAN AND THIS IS ABOUT SLAVERY NOT REGULATIONS THESE PEOPLE ARE INDEBTED AND MUST WORK FOR 10 DOLLARS A DAY. I AM IN THE METAL FINISHING INDUSTRY AND I RECENTLY LOST A MAJOR CONTRACT THAT I WAS MERELY MAKING 1% ON I CANNOT POLISH AND BUFF 2SQ. FT. FOR 4 CENTS YES 4 CENTS
IT COST ME 1.00 TO POLISH AND 2.00 TO BUFF THIS IS WITH SKIMPING ON SUPPLIES AND USING ELIGAL MEXICAN LABOR.INDUSTRY MUST BE REGULATED TO KEEP IWORKERS SAFE NOT TO UNIONIZE.
283inc 1 year ago
I wanna see the reaction of die hard apple fans when i show them this
Unknow022 1 year ago
If they had a union this would not happen! Com'on chinamen youse need to stand up for yourself!
zeogeox 1 year ago
@zeogeox well ifhtey make a union, the labor will beoutsourced to africa i guess, that'sabout the last of the third world countries left to exploit.
Plum369 1 year ago
nobody from the aristocrats in this capitalistic system is actually taking care of the ordinary workers. Nobody really cares as long as they are making the products, meeting their production targets, and making revenue for the company. This is the business of american companies all over the world. As long as they are making money they dont care about the people (Apple), about the nature (BP). All they care for are money. World needs a change.
Flankymanga 1 year ago
@Flankymanga Corporatocracy*
TurboGC8 1 year ago
@Flankymanga
the world is just fine that way. no need to rock the boat.
trinomialtree 1 year ago
@trinomialtree world is fine that way? this just indicates that you must be a rich person enjoying this unequal system like that. World is by no means fine like that.
Flankymanga 1 year ago
Well we want the jobs back in the U.S., can you send them back?
AldCastillo 1 year ago
@catholicnationalist2 Things are vastly Improving in China.
Unlike in the USA.
It takes along time to instigate such major changes mentally for a nation that has been so long suppressed, but they are making efforts in the right direction.
On the other hand America land of the free is talking major quicksteps backwards into suppression.
At least the Chinese are finally working it out.
Kinkspace 1 year ago 2
@Kinkspace
the protesters all need to die.
trinomialtree 1 year ago
@trinomialtree Is that in your humble modest opinion?
It's kind of beyond my logical capabilities to understand your arrival at such a conclusion, may I ask you to enlighten me?
Kinkspace 1 year ago
@Kinkspace
hong kong was a great place b4 because everyone was focused on making money and not politics. tell me why a place which was a colony for 99 years and with only 8 million people, half of which are poor, needs universal suffrage and politics.
all the poor people need to be deported to anhui - they are a welfare drain. all political activists need to be executed - they are destroying the fabric of society.
trinomialtree 1 year ago
@trinomialtree No body need politics or universal sufferage as you put it.
However I fail to see how your solution is going to resolve those issues?
Why the activists executed why not the politicians? Politicians are only political activists who have the state police on side.
Kinkspace 1 year ago
!! No more fruit computers !! =))
IceFritzLanger 1 year ago 3
Why they killing themselves off for?
NegativeNumbers427 1 year ago
@NegativeNumbers427 they killed themselves cause they weak
neanam 1 year ago
So... apple is shit... nothing new was learned today
BottledPulsar 1 year ago
LOL
LeMegasandwich 1 year ago
did they really have to kill themselves? why couldnt they just quit..
AgentOrange04 1 year ago
The irony is, his name is "Jobs". I love the twisted humor of the Universe.
ZejithThemis 1 year ago 14
I agree, Jobs buying from these companies he KNOWS what they pay their people! Bring this tech home if you wanna change something Jobs!
LVOpus 1 year ago
@Blackmetal VENOM !!!
WhereEaglesDareWWII 1 year ago
Steve Jobs behaving like a fucking Jew , I wonder what his true background is. That's right cunt , send what should be American jobs over to the other wage slaves in China who are worse off than the wage slaves of The "Democratic" West. If you are guilty then you deserve the illness God has sent you !
WhereEaglesDareWWII 1 year ago 2
Stupid iphone for stupid people
rsnboy08 1 year ago 26
@rsnboy08 Don't buy the Iphone buy a clone phone instead. It's about $200 cheaper from chinavasion[dot]com
chaosflar3 1 year ago
@chaosflar3 Or from lightinthebox[dot]com
rsnboy08 1 year ago
@rsnboy08
And stupid people created a bloody rich man, Steve Jobs
UtubeNI 1 year ago
@UtubeNI That's right!
rsnboy08 1 year ago
thanks for this story RT.
FranG1214 1 year ago 2
I'm now writing with murdered people's life and dreams.
drogatocronic 1 year ago 4
We need to bring these jobs back to America by taxing corporations that outsource and not taxing the ones that keep their operations on American soil. Buy only made in USA products! Its the only way to revive our dead economy...No bailout or Gov subsidy will ever help this depression our national debt has exceeded our GDP this month!
NightCapper13 1 year ago
PEOPLE DON'T COMMIT SUICIDE FOR MONEY ALONE, ITS CALLED DEPRAVED WORKING CONDITIONS AND FORCED OVERTIME.
what good is money if you can't spend it, let alone HAVE A DAY OFF, EVER.
macks3123 1 year ago 5
@macks3123
if they die an amount of 10 years worth of salary is given for there families
CRAKIZGOOD 1 year ago
@CRAKIZGOOD
somehow you think this is normal???
we're talking ab out APPLE, not a Drug Cartel,
OR ARE WE???
macks3123 1 year ago
@macks3123
its under the same rules
if u dont have enough money in china it means ur starving and almost every one in china has huge amounts of depts and mostly are involved in a load shark
CRAKIZGOOD 1 year ago
Foxconn is garage. And now they want there employee's to sign paperwork saying that they won't commit suicide. Two pay raises WOW that's really going to help idiots.
Haileo20 1 year ago
Maybe it's time for the Chinese to cut out the evil American middleman and develope their own market. Shit, they have the 1 billion persons for trade! Globalization has been such a disaster for most of humanity!
partymariner 1 year ago 3
2 pay raises... "YOU WOIK HARDER MOTHAFUKU!
12GaugeLosAngeles 1 year ago
I love apple...i support chinese slavery!!!! They have a choice...they could be on the street doing nothing.
Bigrich693 1 year ago
@Bigrich693 lmao
NATEandtheMONKEY 1 year ago
@Bigrich693 OR they could immigrate to your country and live off your paid taxes.
watchyourst3p 1 year ago
11 suicides, 4 attempts, 2 PAY RISES!!
WTF is going on here?
DJCW 1 year ago 4
If your curious about this you should look up FOXCONN and blame apple.
TheMunster123 1 year ago
When you buy an apple product you are supporting chinese slavery.
kjb86 1 year ago 34
@kjb86 when you buy anything nowadays you are supporting chinese slavery...
NavidZady 1 year ago 5
@kjb86 yea i know but have you seen the new ipad? its so groovy!! and i look real hip and cool with it in starbucks! no one else has got one yet in my starbucks they are still using iphones, so retro!
dikkydoo1 1 year ago
@kjb86 When you support Microsoft you support depopulation and illegal sterilization.
mcap52 1 year ago
Two pay raises, but the same psychotic work schedule.
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FreedomForMankind 1 year ago
Let the workers control their own work. Workplace democracy ends economic elitism.
GodOfTheInternets 1 year ago
NWO Corporate Oligarchs and the NWO Working Conditions.
These are the type working conditions the International Corporations want to subject us all to!
CelticSouthland 1 year ago 5
@CelticSouthland Actually they are US corporations. That kind of behavior isn't allowed in the EU.
nilbud 1 year ago
I don't understand what's the buzz about since all wages for manufacturing in China are slave wages.This is usual business for the their homegrown industries.
KladionicaCity 1 year ago
Damn i love Russia Today its unbiased and it tells REAL NEWS
Squallleonheartfan 1 year ago 38
@Squallleonheartfan I wonder what kind of news you see in the States...
eriblood 1 year ago
@eriblood i'll bet they haven't even heard of it.lol
NATEandtheMONKEY 1 year ago
@Squallleonheartfan i agree
mujahidahmunu 1 year ago
@Squallleonheartfan i second that
iLeavePennies 1 year ago
@Squallleonheartfan
sorry to ruin it for you but the bad guys will go very far to gain your trust then lead you towards a cliff. i'm being a smart fish i'm getting the food/info from the hook without getting caught.
theagrafiotis 1 year ago
Just another case of American corporations wanting it both ways.
"We're an American corporations. We expect the best top of the line products from you but are only willing to pay slave wages. We expect there will be no safety defects or bad press about working conditions. Basically, we're asking you to perform miracles."
"Ummm. yeah."
The PRC gov't can't be everywhere. The task of routinely inspecting factories would require an army of bureaucrats. The USA doesn't even inspect oil rigs.
harveybirdmannequin 1 year ago 2
@harveybirdmannequin
I forgot to add and so did RT.
Foxconn is a TAIWANESE company. Taiwan claims it is so much more democratic, free, and equal compared to the mainland communists. So the relationship is Apple, American company, contracts out to Foxconn, Taiwanese company, who has manufacturing plants in China.
This is a new trend where the Chinese are going to start taking care of themselves instead of propping up the USA economy. Worker strikes are also happening at Chinese Honda plants.
harveybirdmannequin 1 year ago
Don't say Apple has nothing to do with it. Apple like all corporations shops for the lowest price supplier. Do you really think Apple has no idea what these people are paid?
klard 1 year ago
I dont think the pay is the issue...
the issue is the lack of comunity at the factory campuses..
Also bosses can be a bit abusive i hear and the hours are a bit intense..
Foxxcon really needs to reform there whole culture of how they handle there workers..
ZerqTM 1 year ago 2
Lots of protests against Apple and jobs but not against the CCP who hardly set any standards that caused the atomsphere at Foxxcon.
abarzilai664 1 year ago
its not apple's fault, thats why the contract out the manufacturing. want to send a real message? boycott all products the factory produces, which from what i understand includes wii and ps3 and xbox
SmashedBobNoPants 1 year ago
I don't understand how it's apples fault that the people killed themselves?
zZGhostieZz 1 year ago
@zZGhostieZz ignorant.
RUBYxx12 1 year ago
@RUBYxx12 How is it ignorant to have an opinion ?
zZGhostieZz 1 year ago
@zZGhostieZz Good point. Apple has nothing to do with it.
motorbreath1983 1 year ago
Oh theres many reasons why people are killing themselves Crappy wages,Crappy work conditions ,dislipline classes if they talk or even yawn during work and theres even more reasons that are far worse.Apple only cares about its products and profits not about its under paid slaves
mir2k9 1 year ago
@mir2k9 U got it ,slaves!
liningwzgl 1 year ago
big coorporations are the biggest criminals on the planet and banks, which are actually coorporations in money.
colloredbrothers 1 year ago
This is China and Steve is going to give pay raises? HMMM....
OZtwo 1 year ago
@OZtwo steve ordered pay raises after the suicides, cuz u know, money makes up for the lives lost. sounds like BP, just saying sorry and paying and its all better now i guess.
thisshitrighthereee 1 year ago
@thisshitrighthereee O yes, yes, I understand that, but this is Communist China where I can't think up anything to type since it sounds like us here in the US of A really..again..another hmmmmmmm. :)
OZtwo 1 year ago
@thisshitrighthereee If you just talk trash, don't talk at all.. Because what you're saying about Steve right now is total bullshit... Just saying. Have a good day.
Starskillz1 1 year ago
wowww...
refused 1 year ago
Thats a good look for Steve Jobs.
KoschKff 1 year ago
so they want pay increases? Whats gonna stop apple from moving their production elsewhere now.
ForTehNguyen 1 year ago
How many Chinese goy equal one Applie iPhone.This and many more horrifying statistics are our new world economy.People in China have been sacrificed so that the princelings of the Communist Party can rest easier in their wonderful beds.Stand up Chinese who no longer want to be slaves.
justjacqueline2004 1 year ago 4
This is why I refuse to buy any thing that is made by Apple. The price of greed is human life.
oc5nsli341nforce4 1 year ago 4
@oc5nsli341nforce4 Me too.. I've never liked Apple since the 90's.. tryin to steal the technology and copyright it all for themselves..
ShaktipatSeer 1 year ago
@ShaktipatSeer: I thought that was Microsoft? I'm probably wrong...is it both lol?
88arau 1 year ago
dam iphone is killin people now?! wow it really can do everything. GO android to live longer
thisshitrighthereee 1 year ago 3
China is complaining of working conditions? Certainly news to me.
B4TT3RY 1 year ago 3