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Whatever, man... They didn't have the right to search, nor make the ship go back. Again, it was outside of israeli waters. Besides, were there any weapons on the ships after all??? Who gives a shit what the UN say, and give me a link where it says that. Also, you give me one example where israelis did not respond, when all the rest of the time, they did it excesivelly. Just like in Lebanon and Gaza where they used cluster bombs on civilians, etc, etc. Anyway, this leads nowhere.
ןsrael has the right, arms smuggled into Gaza in this area all the time.
there's plenty of times that Hamas rocket launcher to Israel and she does not respond, the problem that you do not see it. TV show only the attacks of Israel ...
about what the UN says, searching for "Farmer Report"
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I'm not an arab or a muslim nor an israeli or a jew. But you must be fucking retarded not to understand he's figuratively speaking. Even if he doesn't, are palestinians obliged to leave their home and not protect them when israelis feel like bombing them? :S lol You're fucking nazis. If you don't bomb the fucking building in the first place, there won't be any need for human shields. No bombs, no dead. So simple. The rest is fucking bullshit. And that goes for both sides. Fucking retards..
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@yakov4545 I justify no one. I'm tired of hearing of you faggots killing each other. Why don't you fucking disappear so that we can live in peace. At least Hamas does not have nuclear weapons, unlike the fucking state of Shitsrael which threatens to use it. Fucking retards. All because of states, nations, religions, flags and bullshit like that. How about living on this fucking planet in peace? Besides, arabs and israelis are both semites. For fuck's sake.
When did Israel ever threatened to use her nuclear weapons?
Israel has always preferred peace with every country Unlike Arabs, Israel has never been the problem, those the Arabs who will not stop until Israel destroyed
and If you have a problem with Israel Go fuck yourself
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@yakov4545 Why does Israel have nuclear weapons then? Just to show off? The way Arabs see it, jews came to Palestine uninvited and out of nowhere, they wanted to establish a state. I have a problem with every state, actually. I don't have a problem with israelis who don't have a problem with arabs or arabs who don't have a problem with israelis. Peace is not achieved through bombings and ghettos, refugee camps, demolitions of houses, killings of activists and so on. Peace my ass...
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@yakov4545 They had every right to do so. The ships were attacked by Israel. On international waters, I repeat. Was Rachel Corrie a terorist too, maybe? Do stone throwing kids deserve to die too? Give me a break. I know history and I know that jews were scattered all over the world since ancient times. Suddenly, you decide to form an israeli state in the middle of arabs. How did you think they were going to react?
Even the UN says that the siege of Gaza is legal because of smuggled many weapons there, only Turkey did not accept it, and they have no right to hit soldiers, and you're wrong in what you say because the soldiers just wanted to do search and return the ship where she was coming,
If hamas would not have used civilian houses to store weapons and put their bombs then Israel would not bomb them, you knew before Israel bombed houses she sends a letter to citizens? Now what army do such a thing Tell me
@yakov4545 You still bomb people's houses. Where are they going to live? How about the bulldozers that destroy whole neighbourhoods? And please, one half-assed rocket attack that may or may not kill one or two people, does not justify an airstrike.
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@yakov4545 Do they have a choice? And for Israel, arab lives are less significant than israeli's. Am I wrong? Eye for an eye policies lead to more bloodshed. I don't think that "Gaza fools" feel like Hamas drove them out of their homes, but Israel. No? You don't let anyone in, nor out unless you search even their asshole to see whether it's safe for them to enter Israel. No?
And why do you show a video of israelis boarding a ship on international waters? :S Of course they hit them!
@PrinzEugenMCMLXXXIII you saying so much crap that i do not know where to start ןsrael dont believe in eye for an eye method ever heard about the terrorist attack in the Dolphinarium in israel? after a terrorist blew up himselfand killed 21 Israelis you know what the Prime Minister did? he blew up the Gaza? no! He was patient ... he said "restraint is element of power" and there are lots of incidents that Israel was patient with them and did nothing.
@PrinzEugenMCMLXXXIII Hilarious ! a nice mouse like dream to become A mad rage rat! ( even you are a nice mouse I love you coz I love the ,,animals,, and you ur a little one lucky you! )
@benmozes1984 Not arabs but Islam : there are good atheists and Christian arabs (and even new age in some more modern countries ) who are also oppressed by Islam .Though human nature - the reptilian part of the brain is to blame , ideologies such as Islam are the the most common tool for human savagery. Islam was born a fundamentalist cult , ie from the outset and not only in WW2. Its theocratic hegemonic ideology must be denounced as it is,as any other supremacist ideology should be as well.
"Former Israeli soldiers break the silence on military violations", 16 May 2011, Guardian UK.
Here a fmr IDF soldiers as part of a human rights group "breaking the silence" talk about the IDFs "neighbor procedure", a term used to describe their "routine" use of Palestinians (mostly children) as human shields:
"these (human shields) are the most routine, day-to-day stories" - fmr IDF soldier Yehuda Shaul.
Our problem when it comes to Terrorism is that we refuse to accept the truth. Our "Religious Freedom" delusion makes it impossible for us to blame the true culprit in the vast majority of terrorist incidents.. Islam. Muhammad's terroristic influence has become the basis of one of the world's largest religions. The Religion of Peace's clearly stated goal is Peace, which will come when everything non-Muslim has been exterminated (Convert or destroy). Peace through Sharia Law? Indeed!
I want to amend something I wrote earlier: no, Israel should NOT use gas, which kills all indiscriminately. If G-d was ready to spare Sodom for the sake of ten good people, Gaza should be dealt with differently for the sake of the few hundred Christians who are still there and the very young. Rather, let Israel use rockets and machine guns. Slay the adults with the same mockery, but spare the Christians and kids from newborns to age five or six. Take the kids back to Israel to raise as Jews.
We really need to WAKE UP and give these humanoid demons what they want: DEATH for ALL of them. Begin by spraying Gaza with Zyklon B and see what happens. Then, as they try to escape, mow 'em down, all the while mocking them with 'Don't love death anymore, do you?' I have mixed feelings about cremating the carcasses, though there might be nothing else for it. Burying a million and half corpses takes lots of time and effort. Then take the ash and dump it into the Red Sea. Reclaim Gaza.
and america hasnt stopped funding the PA who have unified with this disgusting terrorist group who is responsible for the firing of thousands of rockets into Israel
Now, admittedly, not all Palestinians have a bigotry against Jewish or Christian people and some honestly do not want to destroy Israel - but for the most part, most Palestinians have stated their ultimate goal is to kill the Jews and Christian people and set up yet another Sharia-based Islamic country. Another case in point is that Jewish & Christian people have lived in that area longer than the Arabs have - even prior to the 19th century. There is much historical and archaeological evidence.
@citizenintime yeah you have to admire the navy seals for that one ,i bet the bastard never felt athing though ,,they should have knee capped the bastard and made him suffer for a few minutes and videod him shitting himself before he died to all the other extremists out there to watch ,,,yep another job well done by real hero's ..
@citizenintime Osama Bin Laden is death? hahahahh fucking up you DUDE... that just EDITED we already WATCH a REAL VIDEO... STUPID USA.. you think you all are good? hahahahah... need 12 years to find him and still dint found??? PLEASE... go DIE la if you cannot found him.
here we come from MALAYSIA, HAMAS, ARAB, INDONESIA, TURKI, and arround of the WORLD.. we will KILL all of your ARMY :D
@xDBladerDx I'm sorry, but your English is terrible and I can't quite get your point. Are you suggesting that bin laden (pig urine be upon him) is not dead?
@citizenintime Thanks for read my stupid ENGLISH. Yes, he is not Dead and kindly USA using propaganda that Laden is DEAD and all people will get shock when Laden appears at TV again. What a pity USA.
@citizenintime ohh really? well you are more stupid actually. Look at your country and compare with our contry. Look at your people... ohhh so shameless! hahahahahah
@xDBladerDx Yes, we are rather backwards in the US. We don't behead or stone people to death simply for being "shameless" as the advanced muslim societies like yours do.
@xDBladerDx I have no idea what you're trying to say. The question now is whether my inability to translate your response is a function of your illeteracy or your ignorance...
Jesus is the way the truth the light. Just wait until all the Children and Christians are gone. Then will u believe that Christ is soon to return? Unfortunately it will be too late. The government will have you believe that it was aliens that took em. Because children emitted the most Co2 gas nd the Christians didn't agree with the government. Just wait nd see.
@heartofmusic92 No it isnt..he clearly said that is what they excel at and that it was a direct challenge to the Israeli bombers...so stop lying. The BBC quoting these people confirms this truth..and the BBC is bias towards the Palestinians to let you know before you say the BBC is a Zionist Media outlet.
Readers see "Human shield deters Israel strike" BBC news. Human shielding is an official tactic of Hamas.
Do you know Arabic more than I do? What is he actually trying to say is that "They've made an industry out of death of Palestinians that everyone excel at, and as we're trying to defend our country, the ISRAELIS made human shields out of Palestinians" Its like a FIGURE OF SPEECH!
"Shakallo mnna droo'an bashareyya" - Shakallo refers back to the Israelis and not the [Palestinians]
@heartofmusic92 Um, the fact that he says "we desire death, like you desire life" refutes your absurd translation. The BBC (which praises this disgusting tactic), also confirms that this is indeed a tactic officially employed by Hamas. They literally call for civilians to gather in areas targeted for air strikes....face it the Palestinian leaders are grossly wicked thugs, who doesnt care about Israel civilians..nor their own.
Oh yeah? And the Israeli leaders care so much about the life of the Palestinians, don't they ?
Anyway, what he said is proving my point, is that the Palestinians has suffered from the occupation too much that they desire death as much as Israelis desire life. Thats all.
And is this all the proof you have? a mistranslation? I have actual pictures of Israelis using civilians as human shields.
Btw, I dont support Hamas, but manipulated information should be corrected.
If the Palestinians stop their terrorist acts against Israel, the Israelis wouldn't have a reason to treat them the way they are being treated. The Gazans are suffering from their own Policy of Extermination...the Israelis isnt going to allow that to happen..tough shit. I have many more pictures of Palestinians using their people as human shields, while the Israelis make Palestinians check their own booby trapped areas and bags..theres a difference between the two.
How moral of you, you poor victim of propaganda. I cant keep on arguing with you people. You keep on thinking you're right and I will do the same, but nothing lasts forever sweetheart ; treat your enemies well before it gets too late.
@heartofmusic92 Im a poor victim of Truthful Propaganda..you on the other hand.....We will treat our enemies well when they abandon their Policy of Extermination..until then the IDF will do what its suppose to do...check the evil forces of Radical Islam.
@redcs13ab There's no need to go too far. The fact that he claims they all desire death doesn't mean they all do and definitely not that they all deserve it. That said, it's good when your enemy is honest about who they are and it's good that the world remember what was said in these moments of honesty.
Pure propaganda. So where is the video where Israel has also admitted to the use of human shields and also their admission of deliberately targetting and firing upon civlians? The IDF doctrine is that Gaza and the West Bank are occupied war zones. There are no civilians there in the eyes of the IDF.
@redcs13ab what is clear to you, when did he say that hamas uses people as human shields, this is propaganda the title is totally misleading, by your own definition this is propaganda......
Sometimes take time to watch the video instead of just reading the title before deciding to condemn people!!!!
@CalicoVall its obvious to you because you see what you want to see, the guy is talking about a situation where the palestinian people formed a shield out of choice I must add to protect a hamas leader!!!
@jaycrazyman And that makes it alright? A human shield is a human shield, weather they are willing or not. So, you agree that they are being used as human shields?
@CalicoVall Lmao!!! no I don't agree that they are being used as human shields, they chose to stand in between Israel and Hamas, that is their right to stand up for what they believe in.........
Like I said to you, you see what you want to see, the truth is far beyond you!!!
@jaycrazyman *sigh* Then they are acting as human shields, willing or not, which means we agree. And yes, they can stand up for what they believe in but they shouldn't be surprized when they are killed in the process.
And no, I don't. I don't want to see any of this but this is what's happening weather I like it or not.
@CalicoVall they shouldn't be surprised, your wrong about that one Israelis killing innocent people is no surprise to the palestinians or the rational world!!!
like I said to you in my previous comments I do not agree with you when you say they are being used as human shields, yes they chose to stand in the way as shields because they are willing to die for a cause that they believe in and if Israel had any decency they would walk away!!!
@jaycrazyman LOL Innocent people die everyday. Hamas or IDF, it leads to the same ending.
Then what do you call it when civilians stand in the way of a hostile force for the expressed perpous of protecting them from recipricating force?
And of course they won't walk away. If they do, they will be followed back home. Give an inch and they'll take ten feet. If they had that attatude back during the Six Day War, they'd be dead right now. Hamas doesn't want justice, they want the jews dead.
@CalicoVall now your just making allegations, Hamas wants an end to zionism, zionists its quite different to judaism and jews, I am sure you will agree with me on the difference part...
And as for Hamas taking ten feet we all know who took what!!!
Israelis illegally occupy palestinian territories, the palestinians have every right to self defense!!!
@jaycrazyman *sigh* Oh, how your ignorance shows. Zionism is a nationalist JEWISH movment. Of course there are jews who don't support it, much like there are black people who don't want reperations. Though I do agree that Zionism=/ Judaism but the great majority in the area known as the holy land are Zionists.
Yes, the UN and Nato, who didn't like the jews and didn't want them in europe, were the ones who carved up the entire middle east. Though, to be fair, it was mostly France and Britian.
@CalicoVall illegal because of United Nations Security Council Resolution 242
"inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in the Middle East in which every State in the area can live in security."
@jaycrazyman Which was issued on Nov, 22 in 1967 in reponse to the Six Day War and concerning the land Israel conquered involving it.
It is not a retroactive resolution.
And the PLO, the preeminent liberation force in the area at the time, stated, "the implementation of said resolution will lead to the loss of every hope for the establishment of peace and security in Palestine and the Middle East region."
But they did recognise it 24 years after and only so they could get a say when
@jaycrazyman the Decleration of Princaples was being written up.
But, on May 1st 1968, Israeli ambassador to the UN expressed Israel's position to the Security Council, "My government has indicated its acceptance of the Security Council resolution for the promotion of agreement on the establishment of a just and lasting peace. I am also authorized to reaffirm that we are willing to seek agreement with each Arab State on all matters included in that resolution."
@CalicoVall yes Israelis said a lot of things but the last thing on their mind is to give back occupied land, it doesn't matter how you try to justify the criminal streak in Israel the law is made for everyone, Israel either is or isn't a part of the international community!!!
@jaycrazyman LOL Then why is Hamas breaking the Geniva Convention, since you are so keen on everyone following the law? In that case, isn't using civilians as human shields against that? Does that mean Hamas should be brought before the international community for it?
ANd if they arn't interested in the giving up their land for peace, then why did they do exactally that in the Egypt-Israeli Peace Treaty of 1979? Or the Israeli-Jordan Treaty of Peace of 1994?
@CalicoVall Ok we go back to that same point again, if your referring to the incident in the video Hamas did not use civilians as human shields its very different, it is two totally different things don't get them mixed up
If Israel really want peace why not give up all the occupied land, lift the blockade on gaza, give the palestinian people some hope, because when all is said and done its the only thing we have left but unfortunately the Israelis deny the palestinian the right to hope!!!
@jaycrazyman And let's not forget who owned that land even before Islam even existed..... Rome! And before that, the Persians and before that, the babylonians and before that, the Assyrians; etc.
And so do the Israelites (since they are now natives now too) have the right to self defence.
But the question remains, why is it illegal in the first place?
@jaycrazyman0:25 the subtitle says, "Accordingly [Palestinians] created a human sheild of women, children, the elderly and jihad fighters." it dosn't say anything about wilingly or unwillingly. You see what you want to see. Creating human sheilds is a war crime.
@Jacob2Israel you really are summit else, if you care to do the research you will see that the people chose to protect the building from Israeli offence, that is hardly Hamas using people as human shield now is it? I mean its not like the video with the 2 Palestinians kids standing in front of Israeli army vehicle just in case they get attacked.....
@jaycrazyman there is no point reasoning with you.the man from Hamas just admit they used human shields, and you QUESTION if human shields were used by asking: "when did he say that hamas uses people as human shields" then you JUSTIFY human shields by saying,"the palestinian people formed a shield out of choice." get your story straight.1: the man never said the people were willing(u made that up)2: using human shields to protect terrorists is a war crime.3:denying facts = religious extreamist
@Jacob2Israel your statement is totally flawed, I don't think you see reason so it would be extremely hard for you to reason. If people choose to stand in between a bullet and the intended target you can hardly blame the target for that. This is not the only video about this issue if you care to do your research before you start to try to discredit me, again I will stress that those people stood in between Israeli terrorist and Hamas cause they are fed up of your terrorism!!!
@jaycrazyman my statement is not flaw, you are not listening, and your story keeps changing, and now you claim to be doing research. Israel bombs rocket launching sites to protect its citizens. if civilians want to protect terrorists that fine, and thats the point! they are breaking international law. Israel has to choose between their own citizens and terrorists and terrorist supporters. Israel is on the defensive. Same thing I'm doing, defending my people from sick ppl like u.
@Jacob2Israel that's rich coming from a Zionist baby killer, and don't try to twist my words. Israel uses illegal phosphorous bombs in civilian areas, builds illegal settlements, illegally occupies Palestine and you are talking about law, you are breaking international law maybe the world should get together kill your sorry ass!!!
@jaycrazyman you are so confused this conversation is like talking to a wall. all you do is insult me, and accuse me of things that aren't true. grow up.
@Jacob2Israel Lmafo you are by far the most twisted Zionists I have ever encountered, tell me why is it ok for the IDF to kill people because they support Hamas but its not OK to kill you for support of the terrorist state Israel? Does the word hypocrite come to mind?
@jaycrazyman Israel is not a terrorist state by any means. If you actually bothered to visit Palestine AND Israel with an objective and open mind, you would notice that the people of Israel don't set out to wipe other Muslims off the face of the planet, unlike the Palestinian groups , like the Fatah, Hamas, and the Salafi, have repeatedly said over and over. Even if Israel gave them Jerusalem and the land they asked for and they got their state - those groups admit it won't satisify them.
@EmilyGreene1984 firstly you don't know me, so lets not pretend you know me well enough to pass judgement.
Israel is a terrorist state there is no getting away from that full stop, Palestinians live in constant terror from your terrorist government and the brutal IDF. You occupy Palestinian land, back them into a corner and when they lash out you start spouting your propaganda, well lets see Hamas was created by your government and the minute they realised they were being used they
@EmilyGreene1984 stopped working for your government and then you decide to label them terrorists. What a load of crap, Hamas have repeatedly asked for dialogue but your government has turned them down claiming that they don't negotiate with terrorists. Why? simple because Israel does not want peace full stop.
@EmilyGreene1984 and further more you preach of having an open mind, if you was open minded then you would see Israel for what it really is a Terrorist state that has total disregard for the people it occupies namely the Palestinians.
@jaycrazyman There is no Palestinian people... in reality there is no difference between a Jordanian,Palestian, Lebanese, or Syrian we posit a distinct Palestinian people only for the sake of opposing the Zionist entity (Zuhair Muhsein 3mar77) There is no land of Palestine, Nation or people of Palestine to occupy those Arabs are as much Southern Syrian or Jordanian according to their own leadership
@starcatcher2222 really, no such thing as Palestinians hey, Palestinians have been around long before any illegal state called Israel, in fact the land that Israel sits on was stolen from the Palestinians to house the Jews.
@jaycrazyman So please tell me what was the "Palestinian" capitol, what was the "Palestinian" currency, what type of government did "Palestine" have. You can parrot Arab fantasys but you can't produce an answer to any of those questions. A 1/2 million Arabs were between the Jordan river and the sea in 1920 there are 6X that now. And "Illegal state?" by what definition of legality would that be? Your reactionary opinion certainly does not define legality.
@starcatcher2222 firstly if a peoples do not have all of the above that does mean they didn't exist, they did many of them made homeless by your racist state, it doesn't matter how many arguments you come up with the fact of the matter is the large majority of Zionists in Israel have no claim to any of that land, but yet you force yourself on them and you expect them to just accept that, its not going to happen.
Your state is illegal check out United Nations Security Council Resolution 242!!!
@lakersjohnson3 (i) Withdrawal of Israel armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;
(ii) Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force."
@jaycrazyman actually, you have made the same error that many arab imperialist propagandists do. 242 says "territories occupied," it does not refer to ALL territories occupied. furthermore, israel is already in compliance seeing that it has withdrawn from the sinai. also, thank you for quoting the second clause, because syria and lebanon have not terminated their states of belligerency with israel, and therefore are in violation, and finally, where is the word PALESTINE ever mentioned in 242?
@lakersjohnson3 I can't say Palestine was mentioned, the word used was middle east, but don't get your point are you saying the Palestinians don't deserve international protection?
Israel is in compliance really, that is why they still occupy the West Bank and still build illegal settlements, please explain?
@jaycrazyman what do you mean "the palestinians deserve international protection?" do you mean international protection to attack israel, to blow up restaurants, cafes, discotechs, to murder families in their sleep, and to reject every offer of statehood israel gives them? and settlements are not illegal. they might be bad and you may not like them, but they are not illegal. the west bank is not sovereign territory to anyone.
@lakersjohnson3 the fact that Israel has no respect for international law puts them in the same category as the rest of what you might refer to as terrorists, those laws and any other laws were made for everyone to follow including Israel. The laws say Israel or any other country for that matter may not settle a land through conquest, which makes every settlement illegal... If the law had stretched far back enough say 1913 then it would have applied to the UK and the mandate....
@jaycrazyman Actually, nothing puts Israel in the same category of those who praise death, and the killing of innocent children in the name of Allah. Any border arrangements should be arrived at through negotiations and give and take - not through using innocents as human shields while shooting rockets at innocent civilians.
@monysmusic oh really, you are talking about killing children. You talk of using human shields it is well documented with video evidence that your terrorist state has been using innocent civilians as human shields, your terrorist state has been terrorising the Palestinians since its barbaric birth, your terrorist state has been killing children since its birth and you think you can point the finger FUCKING HYPOCRITE!!!
@jaycrazyman " it is well documented with video evidence that your terrorist state has been using innocent civilians as human shields" - where??
Your language only shows who's the barbaric one. There are innocent Palestinians being abused by Hamas as human shields and THIS video proves it. If you want justice, you should go to your leadership and point the finger at them. Or maybe you prefer the kind of leadership your people rebel against in Syria, Iran, Egypt, Jordan...should I continue?
@monysmusic really the language I use, given your sheer ignorance or I should say your acceptance of the terrorist acts that your government commits, warrants such language. But as far as videos go here you are:
@monysmusic The siege, the check points, the occupation of the West Bank is an act of war.
Any country, any peoples on this planet would do what the Palestinians are doing and what they are doing is trying to secure a future for themselves and their children.
@jaycrazyman actually, israel is not in violation of a single binding international legal statute. and seeing that the palestinian people elected hamas, a genocidal terrorist organization, to lead them, the palestinians are guilty of violating international law, bc hamas targets civilians, which is explicitly a violation of international law.
@lakersjohnson3 wow, so the civilians deserve to die because they elected Hamas in free and fare election, something you Yankees complain that the mid east is lacking and the minute they do that they are in violation and should pay with their lives for electing a party that you don't agree with. Hamas are just as legitimate as any government elected in America. Israel targets civilians daily, kills 5 year old children for throwing stones, your OK with that because they voted for Hamas, right?
@jaycrazyman you are taking your talking points straight from arab imperialist propaganda. I'm sorry, but you know who else was democratically elected? answer: hitler. I can't believe you are apologizing for hamas. have you even read their charter? so you think it's okay for the palestinians to elect a theofascist, antisemitic, genocidal terrorist organization to lead them?
@lakersjohnson3 really so you are saying that it was OK for Israel to kill 1500 people because they voted for Hamas, Hamas who once upon a time was backed by the Israeli government until Hamas figured out that the terrorist state of Israel was just using them. Anyway tell me summit, because of George Bush 2 million have died in Iraq so what should we do with you for voting for that genocidal maniac?
@jaycrazyman i never said "civilians" deserve to die. you really seem to be an apologist for hamas. in fact, it was revealed by this very same man a few months when he was interviewed in arabic that hamas lost about 700 of its own men in cast lead. furthermore, italian journalist lorenzo cremonesi went to gaza right after cast lead and determined that the number of dead could not have exceeded 1000. i can provide sources if you want. you just choose to believe corrupted numbers.
@lakersjohnson3 oh really so you are telling me that the red cross and like minded organisations are lying and that one journalist from Italy is right, and show me the proof of the 1st man you talk off?
I don't have to be an apologetic for Hamas, Hamas won a free and fare election, that gives them legitimacy which is more them I can say for Israel who kills under the pretext of self defence, but yet they are the instigators....
@jaycrazyman israel NEVER intentionally kills palestinian civilians. virtually all palestinian "civilians" (many times they are not civilians) that day die because palestinian militants have chosen to fight israel from within civilian areas. and i'm glad you brought up the five year old stone thrower. don't you think there is something wrong with a society that permits five year olds to go out and throw stone's at armed soldiers? why isn't the five year old at home? why is he in a war zone?
@lakersjohnson3 Israel does not intentionally kill civilians, less then 300 of those killed during cast lead where gunmen that means more then 1200 were civilians and you tell me Israel doesn't intentionally target civilians.
Where do you expect the kid to go that is there daily life, the whole of Gaza is a war zone and with that I am going to terminate this conversation, I cannot converse with anyone that justifies a bullet for a stone and especially when it is just a child.... Shame on you!!!
@jaycrazyman i never said the child deserved to die, i merely pointed out a huge problem within palestinian society, that is, the fact that children are permitted to enter war zones by their parents. in fact, most times, the child with the stone is standing in front of the guy with an rpg or a machine gun. the only people who INTENTIONALLY kill children in this conflict are palestinian terrorists and you know it. it's not in israel's interests to kill children or any civilians.
@lakersjohnson3 don't just repeat the bullshit your media feed you back it up with evidence, 1.6 million people live in the Gaza strip which is around 25 miles long. It is the most densely populated area in the world, thanks to Israel stealing land, where do you expect these children to go, first you zionists imprison them in their own land then you don't want them to come out of their house. You shoot them and then blame them...
@jaycrazyman how about you just don't repeat the bullshit you are fed by whatever media you read? has it ever occurred to you who supplies the red cross and the international organizations with their casualty numbers? answer: hamas. here is the link: camera(dot)org/index(dot)asp?x_print=1&x_context=2&x_outlet=118&x_article=1952
@lakersjohnson3 that is your source, you make me laugh. Now I can see why your so full of bullshit and blinded when it comes to the atrocities that Israel commit. You are deluded if you think that I am going to except a Islam bashing website as a legitimate source... Try a little harder next time and look for information that is more neutral......
@jaycrazyman actually, the original source was in AFP, as the source I posted indicated. it's not like they're making it up, my friend. just because you don't like the truth doesn't mean you can just deny it on the grounds that its "islam-bashing." the fact is, is that it's not "islam-bashing." nowhere in the article or on that site does ANYONE bash islam. but the funny thing is, you should be trying to defend your religion from the hamas zealots who muslims claim have "hijacked" it.
"IDF’s ethics guru slams High Court ban on human shields" (again the IDF claims they should legally be allowed to use human shields), 10/06/2010, Jerusalem Post.
"Amnesty International: IDF use Palestinians as Human Shields" Jan 13, 2009.
"IDF To Appeal Ban on using Human Shields", 10-12-05, XinhuaNet.
"IDF to appeal 'human shield' ruling", 10.11.05, YNet.
"IDF is Responsible for Death of ‘Human Shield’, B'Tselem Jerusalem.
@OrthodoxDarwinist haha did you even read the jerusalem post article? do you even know what human shield means in this context? it means the IDF tells palestinian neighbors to go and try to convince their other palestinian neighbors who are terrorists to get out of the house and surrender so that the IDF doesn't have to blow it up. but do you want to talk about real human shields? like how hamas ACTUALLY orders civilians to surround its military locations? watch?v=g0wJXf2nt4Y
How about you actually READ the article before commenting on it:
h tt p: / / ww w. j post. co m/Israel/Article. aspx?id=190354
The IDF's claims that the "neighbor procedure" (this is where they take an Arab civilian, usually always a kid, and use him/her as a human shield) should be allowed by Israeli law.
"The 'neighbor procedure' calls for using an Arab resident of a building being entered or searched to enter the building or to open suspicious objects." - JPost.
@OrthodoxDarwinist haha you completely misunderstood the article. first, any use of civilians in the manner you described is incredibly illegal in israel, that is why the soldiers were CONVICTED. the issue of the article was the the supreme court chose to ban ANY use of palestinian civilians in a warzone, and the article pointed out how that might not be good, bc sometimes civilians can be used to save lives (e.g. neighbors tell people to leave house). join real darwinists and support israel
You do not know what the "neighbor procedure" is. It is when civilians are put in a dangerous position to minimize risk to the soldiers; this is called HUMAN SHIELDING!
"The 'neighbor procedure' calls for using an Arab resident of a building being entered or searched to enter the building or to open suspicious objects." - JPost.
The IDF was arguing they should be allowed to do this, which proves just how sick and morally deformed you Zionists are.
@OrthodoxDarwinist you really misunderstood the article my friend. the whole REASON the court was involved was bc it came to light that some unit in the idf had used that procedure of human shielding, thinking it was legal under the neighbor procedure. they were prosecuted as a result, and the IDF was angry not that that practice was banned, but that the practice of using civilians to try to convince terrorists to surrender to SAVE LIVES was banned by the court.
@OrthodoxDarwinist the story actually demonstrates the power of israel's justice system to stand up to the military, a power that typically doesn't exist in most arab countries.
WOW! The judicial system told the IDF to stop using civilians as human shields, and you want Israel to get some sort of medal for it???
WOW!!! You guys must be saints!
But seriously, all this story shows is how morally deformed and evil the IDF and Zionism is, to actually try to argue that they should lawfully be allowed to use little kids as human shields is really a new low of humanity.
@OrthodoxDarwinist again you lie and distort. the whole court case happened because of ONE alleged use by ONE unit of a human shield, an incredibly unethical and terrible thing to do, but an unfortunate thing that happens in every military during every war. the case of this ONE time use of using an actual kid as a human shield (with the conviction of the perpetrators), caused the court to ban the entire 'neighbor policy,' which does not involve human shields, which is why the IDF got angry.
@OrthodoxDarwinist and here's a good question for you: how many judicial systems in the palestinian territories have prosecuted terrorists for arranging the blowing up of israeli cafes, discotechs, busses, restaurants, and malls? answer: 0.
Why would they be arrested for defending their land from an ILLEGAL (get this word through your thick head) racist occupation?
On the other hand have you ever seen Israel prosecuting those in the IDF who have committed the massive list of war crimes and abuses against humanity? NO!
Does Israel have no extradition treaty with anyone and refuses to prosecute fugitive Jewish rapists, child molestors, murderers, gangsters and all sorts of criminal? YES!
@OrthodoxDarwinist ok so there are a number of distortions in your response, so I will try and address them. 1. the occupation is not illegal by any stretch of international law. 2. the occupation is not in the least bit racist.
3. is blowing up cafes and discotechs filled with civilians a form of legitimate "resistance" in your view?
4. israel has prosecuted whatever soldiers have been found to commit GENUINE war crimes. there haven't been that many, the IDF is very moral.
@OrthodoxDarwinist and 5. as of 1999, the extradition issue has been completely solved. but since you are so concerned with extradition, why don't you have anger at switzerland where rapists literally do get to live? jewishvirtuallibrary(dot)org/jsource/History/extraditionpol(dot)html
No the "extradition issue" has not been solved at all, Israel refuses to extradite anyone who is Jewish, and refuses to prosecute crimes that were "committed in the lands of the Goyim". Thus Israel only notices crimes if it is committed against Jewish people, which is very telling.
The criminals Israel refuses to hand over include those guilty of genocide (former NKVD officers, ie: Nahman Dushanski), child molesters (ie: Abraham Mondrowitz), rapists, gangsters and others.
@OrthodoxDarwinist haha no you're just being plain bigoted. dushansky is hardly a mass murderer, and his other co-soviet security officers who did just as much as him who were not jewish were not prosecuted by lithuania. only him...hmmm, smells anti-semitic. as for mondrowitz, i didn't think you would care if it was a jew molesting jewish children, but he was actually arrested in israel for child pornography.
Case that highlighted how corrupt Israel's anti-extradition policies were was Samuel Sheinbein, who committed a shockingly gruesome murder in Maryland, fled to Israel and was shielded from all prosecution (despite never having visited Israel before, ie: JUST because he was a Jew).
1999 Amendment 6 refuses Israelis (who were citizens before crime) to be prosecuted overseas, and for those who commit the crime then obtain citizenship it is case-by-case (ie: whenever they can get away with it).
@OrthodoxDarwinist and those "israelis" also includes arabs. ANY citizen of israel, arab or jew. and just so you know sheinbein is currently in JAIL in israel.
NO it does not include Arabs at all! If you actually go and look at the amendments to their policy on extradition you will see that it clearly stipulates the "protection" ONLY of those who "qualify under the law of return" (ie: Jews and Jews ONLY).
The fact that you just made up such rubbish about something you clearly know nothing about proves you are harboring a deep-seated racial bias.
@OrthodoxDarwinist here was a quote from the israeli foreign ministry: "Any person may be extradited from Israel except for a person who was an Israeli national at the time of the commission of the offense. However, to ensure that an Israeli national does not escape prosecution, Sections 7A and 10A of the Penal Law, 5737-1977 (as amended) extend the jurisdiction of the Israeli courts to hear cases in which an Israeli national is alleged to have committed a crime abroad." continued
@OrthodoxDarwinist arabs are israeli nationals too. and by the way I'm not the person with racial bias, you are. you have bias against the jewish people. jews come in all colors, my friend, they are white, black, and brown, and israel is the ONLY country in the middle east where arabs, jews, muslims, christians, and everyone else are EQUAL under the law and have full rights. none of your propaganda and hate will ever change that fact. i suggest you visit the place.
@OrthodoxDarwinist and you're also denying facts. every case of extradition in israel is reviewed and determined if it has merit. many people have been extradited, such as oded orbach, the arms dealer. but again, I ask you, if you are so concerned with extradition, why focus on israel? why aren't you writing on the youtube pages of videos about switzerland? i bet i could take a good guess as to the answer.
Because Switzerland doesn't harbor and protect criminals of a particular ethnic group out of a feeling of racial superiority and ethnocentrism.
"In 1978, the Knesset passed the Offenses Committed Abroad Act. It eliminated extradition of Israeli citizens and switched Israel to the Continental system. The Extradition Act was thus amended so that no Israeli citizen could be extradited." - JVL
@OrthodoxDarwinist haha, a feeling of racial superiority...yeah right. being jewish is not being part of a race. as for ethnocentrism, the extradition policy was put into place with the mindset of PROTECTING jews who had been WRONGLY accused, the assumption being that antisemitism was the reason behind many prosecutions, as it likely was in the case of dushansky. but is this your whole problem with israel? all this talk and whining by you and all you can point to is the extradition policy?
its ok
PRErnestine402 1 month ago
Yer...trusting peoples translating skills online when it comes to politics? Don't think so lol
BushidoRei 3 months ago
@dingdongdannny haha right, thats called R&D and palestinians kinda lack in that department :(
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Whatever, man... They didn't have the right to search, nor make the ship go back. Again, it was outside of israeli waters. Besides, were there any weapons on the ships after all??? Who gives a shit what the UN say, and give me a link where it says that. Also, you give me one example where israelis did not respond, when all the rest of the time, they did it excesivelly. Just like in Lebanon and Gaza where they used cluster bombs on civilians, etc, etc. Anyway, this leads nowhere.
PrinzEugenMCMLXXXIII 4 months ago
@PrinzEugenMCMLXXXIII
ןsrael has the right, arms smuggled into Gaza in this area all the time.
there's plenty of times that Hamas rocket launcher to Israel and she does not respond, the problem that you do not see it. TV show only the attacks of Israel ...
about what the UN says, searching for "Farmer Report"
anyway It really leading nowhere.
yakov4545 4 months ago 14
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I'm not an arab or a muslim nor an israeli or a jew. But you must be fucking retarded not to understand he's figuratively speaking. Even if he doesn't, are palestinians obliged to leave their home and not protect them when israelis feel like bombing them? :S lol You're fucking nazis. If you don't bomb the fucking building in the first place, there won't be any need for human shields. No bombs, no dead. So simple. The rest is fucking bullshit. And that goes for both sides. Fucking retards..
PrinzEugenMCMLXXXIII 4 months ago
@PrinzEugenMCMLXXXIII
So you justify the Hamas?
hamas allways launcher rockets to israel and then israel react !
yakov4545 4 months ago 7
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@yakov4545 I justify no one. I'm tired of hearing of you faggots killing each other. Why don't you fucking disappear so that we can live in peace. At least Hamas does not have nuclear weapons, unlike the fucking state of Shitsrael which threatens to use it. Fucking retards. All because of states, nations, religions, flags and bullshit like that. How about living on this fucking planet in peace? Besides, arabs and israelis are both semites. For fuck's sake.
PrinzEugenMCMLXXXIII 4 months ago
@PrinzEugenMCMLXXXIII
are you fucking retard?!
When did Israel ever threatened to use her nuclear weapons?
Israel has always preferred peace with every country Unlike Arabs, Israel has never been the problem, those the Arabs who will not stop until Israel destroyed
and If you have a problem with Israel Go fuck yourself
yakov4545 4 months ago 6
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@yakov4545 Why does Israel have nuclear weapons then? Just to show off? The way Arabs see it, jews came to Palestine uninvited and out of nowhere, they wanted to establish a state. I have a problem with every state, actually. I don't have a problem with israelis who don't have a problem with arabs or arabs who don't have a problem with israelis. Peace is not achieved through bombings and ghettos, refugee camps, demolitions of houses, killings of activists and so on. Peace my ass...
PrinzEugenMCMLXXXIII 4 months ago
@PrinzEugenMCMLXXXIII
yeah yeah
one more fallen to an arab propaganda how surprising ...
here yours "peace activists"
/watch?v=rhbwDC1aD0E
you right about that "Peace my ass"
does "peace activists" hit soldiers with metal poles and chairs ?
the jews came from nowhere? if you knew a little bit history you know that in "palestine"
was also alot of jews and christian ...!
yakov4545 4 months ago 6
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@yakov4545 They had every right to do so. The ships were attacked by Israel. On international waters, I repeat. Was Rachel Corrie a terorist too, maybe? Do stone throwing kids deserve to die too? Give me a break. I know history and I know that jews were scattered all over the world since ancient times. Suddenly, you decide to form an israeli state in the middle of arabs. How did you think they were going to react?
PrinzEugenMCMLXXXIII 4 months ago
@PrinzEugenMCMLXXXIII
Even the UN says that the siege of Gaza is legal because of smuggled many weapons there, only Turkey did not accept it, and they have no right to hit soldiers, and you're wrong in what you say because the soldiers just wanted to do search and return the ship where she was coming,
yakov4545 4 months ago 8
@PrinzEugenMCMLXXXIII
and even told the Turks on the VHF, and you know what the turks say? "Remember the 9 / 11" You can see it on YouTube,
And as soon as the first soldier got on board, they beat him, those are your "peace activists".
yakov4545 4 months ago 7
@PrinzEugenMCMLXXXIII
If hamas would not have used civilian houses to store weapons and put their bombs then Israel would not bomb them, you knew before Israel bombed houses she sends a letter to citizens? Now what army do such a thing Tell me
yakov4545 4 months ago 6
@yakov4545 You still bomb people's houses. Where are they going to live? How about the bulldozers that destroy whole neighbourhoods? And please, one half-assed rocket attack that may or may not kill one or two people, does not justify an airstrike.
PrinzEugenMCMLXXXIII 4 months ago
@PrinzEugenMCMLXXXIII
where they going to live?
they should think about it before they let Hamas put their arms in.
Do you think Israel would sit and say to themselves "That's just one or two citizen"?
In Israel everyone's life are important no matter if it's one person or two
Anyway Gaza should free from Hamas and not Israel, and the Gazans fools did not see who their real enemy
yakov4545 4 months ago 6
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@yakov4545 Do they have a choice? And for Israel, arab lives are less significant than israeli's. Am I wrong? Eye for an eye policies lead to more bloodshed. I don't think that "Gaza fools" feel like Hamas drove them out of their homes, but Israel. No? You don't let anyone in, nor out unless you search even their asshole to see whether it's safe for them to enter Israel. No?
And why do you show a video of israelis boarding a ship on international waters? :S Of course they hit them!
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@PrinzEugenMCMLXXXIII Hilarious ! a nice mouse like dream to become A mad rage rat! ( even you are a nice mouse I love you coz I love the ,,animals,, and you ur a little one lucky you! )
hazak23 4 months ago 6
@hazak23 Please, learn some english. I don't understand a damn word you're writing. lol
PrinzEugenMCMLXXXIII 4 months ago
"to the Zionist enemy we say: we desire death just as you desire life..."
I think that says it all....
Long Live Israel
TheRahimpur 4 months ago
Urban Combat 101 - A Hamas Primer
1. Turn off cell phones and run
2. Hide behind large group of women and children
3. Order women and children to pick up rocks and throw at advancing IDF troops
4. Fire AK-47's at IDF troops from behind women and children
5. Blame Israel for human rights violations and war crimes
6. Repeat as often as necessary
YTHaganah 5 months ago 3
Thank you so much for this !!
Gwynsek 5 months ago
so if they want to die why do the claim and complain that Israel kills them?
AbuAvital 5 months ago 5
Muslims always say we misunderstood?????
kennyufc09 5 months ago
ARABS & ISLAM = SATAN
MrYalicohen 5 months ago 3
Palestine = BIG LIE
benmozes1984 5 months ago 25
@benmozes1984 "Israel" = Fourth Reich
IchirinNoHanaBleach 2 months ago
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This is the way of arabs. They do not want peace.
benmozes1984 5 months ago
No arabs, No terror.
World is better without arabs
benmozes1984 5 months ago
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Gwynsek 5 months ago
@benmozes1984 Not arabs but Islam : there are good atheists and Christian arabs (and even new age in some more modern countries ) who are also oppressed by Islam .Though human nature - the reptilian part of the brain is to blame , ideologies such as Islam are the the most common tool for human savagery. Islam was born a fundamentalist cult , ie from the outset and not only in WW2. Its theocratic hegemonic ideology must be denounced as it is,as any other supremacist ideology should be as well.
Gwynsek 5 months ago
I've tried to use these videos as a way to steer leftists and Muslims away from anti-Israel and pro-Hamas stances.
Then I discover to much dismay that leftists enjoy the death of children and Muslims in general just hate those Jews.
I give up on humanity.
Soothfish 6 months ago
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"Former Israeli soldiers break the silence on military violations", 16 May 2011, Guardian UK.
Here a fmr IDF soldiers as part of a human rights group "breaking the silence" talk about the IDFs "neighbor procedure", a term used to describe their "routine" use of Palestinians (mostly children) as human shields:
"these (human shields) are the most routine, day-to-day stories" - fmr IDF soldier Yehuda Shaul.
OrthodoxDarwinist 7 months ago
i hate muslims and jews
crorex1 8 months ago
Our problem when it comes to Terrorism is that we refuse to accept the truth. Our "Religious Freedom" delusion makes it impossible for us to blame the true culprit in the vast majority of terrorist incidents.. Islam. Muhammad's terroristic influence has become the basis of one of the world's largest religions. The Religion of Peace's clearly stated goal is Peace, which will come when everything non-Muslim has been exterminated (Convert or destroy). Peace through Sharia Law? Indeed!
ibaconi 8 months ago
I want to amend something I wrote earlier: no, Israel should NOT use gas, which kills all indiscriminately. If G-d was ready to spare Sodom for the sake of ten good people, Gaza should be dealt with differently for the sake of the few hundred Christians who are still there and the very young. Rather, let Israel use rockets and machine guns. Slay the adults with the same mockery, but spare the Christians and kids from newborns to age five or six. Take the kids back to Israel to raise as Jews.
Proudscalawag 8 months ago
We really need to WAKE UP and give these humanoid demons what they want: DEATH for ALL of them. Begin by spraying Gaza with Zyklon B and see what happens. Then, as they try to escape, mow 'em down, all the while mocking them with 'Don't love death anymore, do you?' I have mixed feelings about cremating the carcasses, though there might be nothing else for it. Burying a million and half corpses takes lots of time and effort. Then take the ash and dump it into the Red Sea. Reclaim Gaza.
Proudscalawag 8 months ago
and america hasnt stopped funding the PA who have unified with this disgusting terrorist group who is responsible for the firing of thousands of rockets into Israel
what is this world coming to!?!?!?!?
MrPlainfacts 8 months ago
An evil people and culture
Mr31411 8 months ago
Hamas is a death cult.
NavajoJoe66 8 months ago
Finally the hypocrites admit to it !!!
Gwynsek 8 months ago
Now, admittedly, not all Palestinians have a bigotry against Jewish or Christian people and some honestly do not want to destroy Israel - but for the most part, most Palestinians have stated their ultimate goal is to kill the Jews and Christian people and set up yet another Sharia-based Islamic country. Another case in point is that Jewish & Christian people have lived in that area longer than the Arabs have - even prior to the 19th century. There is much historical and archaeological evidence.
EmilyGreene1984 8 months ago
human sheilds are all the rage why do you think bush was sitting in a school during the 9/11 attacks?
reksub10 9 months ago
Dead terrorists make me smile.
citizenintime 9 months ago
@citizenintime teah just think cheny and bush and the queen will all soon be dead and well can all have a big smile at that
reksub10 9 months ago
@reksub10 You'll have to wait for that. Fortunately, terrorists die every day, and that makes me smile.
Hey--bin laden is dead! I'm really smiling now! That cowardly, murdering sack of pig shit was waxed by US Navy SEALS. Good shootin', boys!
How do you feel about that?
citizenintime 9 months ago
@citizenintime yeah you have to admire the navy seals for that one ,i bet the bastard never felt athing though ,,they should have knee capped the bastard and made him suffer for a few minutes and videod him shitting himself before he died to all the other extremists out there to watch ,,,yep another job well done by real hero's ..
reksub10 9 months ago
@citizenintime Osama Bin Laden is death? hahahahh fucking up you DUDE... that just EDITED we already WATCH a REAL VIDEO... STUPID USA.. you think you all are good? hahahahah... need 12 years to find him and still dint found??? PLEASE... go DIE la if you cannot found him.
here we come from MALAYSIA, HAMAS, ARAB, INDONESIA, TURKI, and arround of the WORLD.. we will KILL all of your ARMY :D
xDBladerDx 8 months ago
@xDBladerDx I'm sorry, but your English is terrible and I can't quite get your point. Are you suggesting that bin laden (pig urine be upon him) is not dead?
Dead terrorists make me smile.
citizenintime 8 months ago
@citizenintime Thanks for read my stupid ENGLISH. Yes, he is not Dead and kindly USA using propaganda that Laden is DEAD and all people will get shock when Laden appears at TV again. What a pity USA.
xDBladerDx 8 months ago
@xDBladerDx Wow, you're illiterate AND stupid! In the US, that would make you a progressive democrat!
citizenintime 8 months ago
@citizenintime ohh really? well you are more stupid actually. Look at your country and compare with our contry. Look at your people... ohhh so shameless! hahahahahah
xDBladerDx 8 months ago
@xDBladerDx Yes, we are rather backwards in the US. We don't behead or stone people to death simply for being "shameless" as the advanced muslim societies like yours do.
citizenintime 8 months ago
@citizenintime death its not shameless... all living thing will die :D
do not cover this, you will die also :D
xDBladerDx 8 months ago
@xDBladerDx I have no idea what you're trying to say. The question now is whether my inability to translate your response is a function of your illeteracy or your ignorance...
citizenintime 8 months ago
@citizenintime Never mind :D just remember you will die soon :D its enough :D
xDBladerDx 8 months ago
@xDBladerDx You've cleared it up--it's ignorance. You may go now.
citizenintime 8 months ago
@citizenintime Hahahhahah... sure you keep thinking why im talk like this :D
xDBladerDx 8 months ago
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Islamists killing count calling Allah Akbar.
Mar-766kills----Feb-565kills---Jan-762kills
Year 2010-9175kills
From-India to Russia-Philippin to England-Thailand to New York-Argentina to China- France to Kenya-all 58 Muslim countries.
*Have you seen Muslim&so called human right organization demonstrating to stop:
*Islamism Killing Ideology?
*Teaching,preaching hate worldwide funded by Arab/Iran countries?
-The free world sleeps and Islamism marches!
Expect more terror and wars
MordechayAriely 9 months ago
moeyes111 Lies and denials will not help you
david27zz 10 months ago
In gaza two muslim women were executed by the hamas after a shraia trial one woman was 24 years and one was 26 years old
david27zz 10 months ago
@david27zz Wow, I live in Gaza, never heard of this. How do you get your information? or wait, you even been to Gaza?
moeyes111 10 months ago
@moeyes111 Muslim piece of shit liar You're from Greece
asaf921 9 months ago
Jesus is the way the truth the light. Just wait until all the Children and Christians are gone. Then will u believe that Christ is soon to return? Unfortunately it will be too late. The government will have you believe that it was aliens that took em. Because children emitted the most Co2 gas nd the Christians didn't agree with the government. Just wait nd see.
mgarcia0607 11 months ago
so if they want to die, go ahead and stop bothering the rest of us and the world will be a better place.
AbuAvital 1 year ago
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This translation is WRONG, I know Arabic and what is he actually saying is that "Israelis made OF US (Palestinians) human shields"
I cant believe this video has gone so popular without anyone correcting this!
heartofmusic92 1 year ago
This translation is WRONG, I know Arabic and what is he actually saying is that "Israelis made OF US (Palestinians) human shields"
I cant believe this video has gone so popular without anyone correcting this!
heartofmusic92 1 year ago
@heartofmusic92 No it isnt..he clearly said that is what they excel at and that it was a direct challenge to the Israeli bombers...so stop lying. The BBC quoting these people confirms this truth..and the BBC is bias towards the Palestinians to let you know before you say the BBC is a Zionist Media outlet.
Readers see "Human shield deters Israel strike" BBC news. Human shielding is an official tactic of Hamas.
sugarhitman 1 year ago
@sugarhitman
Do you know Arabic more than I do? What is he actually trying to say is that "They've made an industry out of death of Palestinians that everyone excel at, and as we're trying to defend our country, the ISRAELIS made human shields out of Palestinians" Its like a FIGURE OF SPEECH!
"Shakallo mnna droo'an bashareyya" - Shakallo refers back to the Israelis and not the [Palestinians]
heartofmusic92 1 year ago
@heartofmusic92 Um, the fact that he says "we desire death, like you desire life" refutes your absurd translation. The BBC (which praises this disgusting tactic), also confirms that this is indeed a tactic officially employed by Hamas. They literally call for civilians to gather in areas targeted for air strikes....face it the Palestinian leaders are grossly wicked thugs, who doesnt care about Israel civilians..nor their own.
sugarhitman 1 year ago
@sugarhitman
Oh yeah? And the Israeli leaders care so much about the life of the Palestinians, don't they ?
Anyway, what he said is proving my point, is that the Palestinians has suffered from the occupation too much that they desire death as much as Israelis desire life. Thats all.
And is this all the proof you have? a mistranslation? I have actual pictures of Israelis using civilians as human shields.
Btw, I dont support Hamas, but manipulated information should be corrected.
heartofmusic92 1 year ago
If the Palestinians stop their terrorist acts against Israel, the Israelis wouldn't have a reason to treat them the way they are being treated. The Gazans are suffering from their own Policy of Extermination...the Israelis isnt going to allow that to happen..tough shit. I have many more pictures of Palestinians using their people as human shields, while the Israelis make Palestinians check their own booby trapped areas and bags..theres a difference between the two.
sugarhitman 1 year ago
@sugarhitman
How moral of you, you poor victim of propaganda. I cant keep on arguing with you people. You keep on thinking you're right and I will do the same, but nothing lasts forever sweetheart ; treat your enemies well before it gets too late.
heartofmusic92 1 year ago
@heartofmusic92 Im a poor victim of Truthful Propaganda..you on the other hand.....We will treat our enemies well when they abandon their Policy of Extermination..until then the IDF will do what its suppose to do...check the evil forces of Radical Islam.
sugarhitman 1 year ago
"WE DESIRE DEATH" welll, what's the problem? KILL EM ALL!!
redcs13ab 1 year ago 4
@redcs13ab There's no need to go too far. The fact that he claims they all desire death doesn't mean they all do and definitely not that they all deserve it. That said, it's good when your enemy is honest about who they are and it's good that the world remember what was said in these moments of honesty.
matan4il 8 months ago
Pure propaganda. So where is the video where Israel has also admitted to the use of human shields and also their admission of deliberately targetting and firing upon civlians? The IDF doctrine is that Gaza and the West Bank are occupied war zones. There are no civilians there in the eyes of the IDF.
PalemoonSun 1 year ago
@PalemoonSun HOW COULD it be propaganda, when it's coming directly from his mouth? propaganda is misleading, this is pretty clear to me. ????
redcs13ab 1 year ago
@redcs13ab what is clear to you, when did he say that hamas uses people as human shields, this is propaganda the title is totally misleading, by your own definition this is propaganda......
Sometimes take time to watch the video instead of just reading the title before deciding to condemn people!!!!
jaycrazyman 1 year ago
@jaycrazyman I have and it still is quite obvious what the man's saying.
CalicoVall 1 year ago
@CalicoVall its obvious to you because you see what you want to see, the guy is talking about a situation where the palestinian people formed a shield out of choice I must add to protect a hamas leader!!!
jaycrazyman 1 year ago
@jaycrazyman And that makes it alright? A human shield is a human shield, weather they are willing or not. So, you agree that they are being used as human shields?
CalicoVall 1 year ago
@CalicoVall Lmao!!! no I don't agree that they are being used as human shields, they chose to stand in between Israel and Hamas, that is their right to stand up for what they believe in.........
Like I said to you, you see what you want to see, the truth is far beyond you!!!
jaycrazyman 1 year ago
@jaycrazyman *sigh* Then they are acting as human shields, willing or not, which means we agree. And yes, they can stand up for what they believe in but they shouldn't be surprized when they are killed in the process.
And no, I don't. I don't want to see any of this but this is what's happening weather I like it or not.
CalicoVall 1 year ago
@CalicoVall they shouldn't be surprised, your wrong about that one Israelis killing innocent people is no surprise to the palestinians or the rational world!!!
like I said to you in my previous comments I do not agree with you when you say they are being used as human shields, yes they chose to stand in the way as shields because they are willing to die for a cause that they believe in and if Israel had any decency they would walk away!!!
jaycrazyman 1 year ago
@jaycrazyman LOL Innocent people die everyday. Hamas or IDF, it leads to the same ending.
Then what do you call it when civilians stand in the way of a hostile force for the expressed perpous of protecting them from recipricating force?
And of course they won't walk away. If they do, they will be followed back home. Give an inch and they'll take ten feet. If they had that attatude back during the Six Day War, they'd be dead right now. Hamas doesn't want justice, they want the jews dead.
CalicoVall 1 year ago
@CalicoVall now your just making allegations, Hamas wants an end to zionism, zionists its quite different to judaism and jews, I am sure you will agree with me on the difference part...
And as for Hamas taking ten feet we all know who took what!!!
Israelis illegally occupy palestinian territories, the palestinians have every right to self defense!!!
jaycrazyman 1 year ago
@jaycrazyman *sigh* Oh, how your ignorance shows. Zionism is a nationalist JEWISH movment. Of course there are jews who don't support it, much like there are black people who don't want reperations. Though I do agree that Zionism=/ Judaism but the great majority in the area known as the holy land are Zionists.
Yes, the UN and Nato, who didn't like the jews and didn't want them in europe, were the ones who carved up the entire middle east. Though, to be fair, it was mostly France and Britian.
CalicoVall 1 year ago
@CalicoVall illegal because of United Nations Security Council Resolution 242
"inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in the Middle East in which every State in the area can live in security."
jaycrazyman 1 year ago
@jaycrazyman Which was issued on Nov, 22 in 1967 in reponse to the Six Day War and concerning the land Israel conquered involving it.
It is not a retroactive resolution.
And the PLO, the preeminent liberation force in the area at the time, stated, "the implementation of said resolution will lead to the loss of every hope for the establishment of peace and security in Palestine and the Middle East region."
But they did recognise it 24 years after and only so they could get a say when
CalicoVall 1 year ago
@jaycrazyman the Decleration of Princaples was being written up.
But, on May 1st 1968, Israeli ambassador to the UN expressed Israel's position to the Security Council, "My government has indicated its acceptance of the Security Council resolution for the promotion of agreement on the establishment of a just and lasting peace. I am also authorized to reaffirm that we are willing to seek agreement with each Arab State on all matters included in that resolution."
CalicoVall 1 year ago
@CalicoVall yes Israelis said a lot of things but the last thing on their mind is to give back occupied land, it doesn't matter how you try to justify the criminal streak in Israel the law is made for everyone, Israel either is or isn't a part of the international community!!!
jaycrazyman 1 year ago
@jaycrazyman LOL Then why is Hamas breaking the Geniva Convention, since you are so keen on everyone following the law? In that case, isn't using civilians as human shields against that? Does that mean Hamas should be brought before the international community for it?
ANd if they arn't interested in the giving up their land for peace, then why did they do exactally that in the Egypt-Israeli Peace Treaty of 1979? Or the Israeli-Jordan Treaty of Peace of 1994?
CalicoVall 1 year ago
@CalicoVall Ok we go back to that same point again, if your referring to the incident in the video Hamas did not use civilians as human shields its very different, it is two totally different things don't get them mixed up
If Israel really want peace why not give up all the occupied land, lift the blockade on gaza, give the palestinian people some hope, because when all is said and done its the only thing we have left but unfortunately the Israelis deny the palestinian the right to hope!!!
jaycrazyman 1 year ago
@jaycrazyman And let's not forget who owned that land even before Islam even existed..... Rome! And before that, the Persians and before that, the babylonians and before that, the Assyrians; etc.
And so do the Israelites (since they are now natives now too) have the right to self defence.
But the question remains, why is it illegal in the first place?
CalicoVall 1 year ago
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@jaycrazyman BTW, you never answered my question. ^_^
CalicoVall 1 year ago
@jaycrazyman BTW, where are you from, if you don't mind me asking?
P.S. Don't worry, I'm not a Teapot nutjob. ^_^
CalicoVall 1 year ago
@CalicoVall worry about what, I am from the UK I dint see how that is relevant though!!!
jaycrazyman 1 year ago
@jaycrazyman No, just interested
CalicoVall 1 year ago
@jaycrazyman 0:25 the subtitle says, "Accordingly [Palestinians] created a human sheild of women, children, the elderly and jihad fighters." it dosn't say anything about wilingly or unwillingly. You see what you want to see. Creating human sheilds is a war crime.
Jacob2Israel 8 months ago
@Jacob2Israel you really are summit else, if you care to do the research you will see that the people chose to protect the building from Israeli offence, that is hardly Hamas using people as human shield now is it? I mean its not like the video with the 2 Palestinians kids standing in front of Israeli army vehicle just in case they get attacked.....
jaycrazyman 8 months ago
@jaycrazyman there is no point reasoning with you.the man from Hamas just admit they used human shields, and you QUESTION if human shields were used by asking: "when did he say that hamas uses people as human shields" then you JUSTIFY human shields by saying,"the palestinian people formed a shield out of choice." get your story straight.1: the man never said the people were willing(u made that up)2: using human shields to protect terrorists is a war crime.3:denying facts = religious extreamist
Jacob2Israel 8 months ago
@Jacob2Israel your statement is totally flawed, I don't think you see reason so it would be extremely hard for you to reason. If people choose to stand in between a bullet and the intended target you can hardly blame the target for that. This is not the only video about this issue if you care to do your research before you start to try to discredit me, again I will stress that those people stood in between Israeli terrorist and Hamas cause they are fed up of your terrorism!!!
jaycrazyman 8 months ago
@jaycrazyman my statement is not flaw, you are not listening, and your story keeps changing, and now you claim to be doing research. Israel bombs rocket launching sites to protect its citizens. if civilians want to protect terrorists that fine, and thats the point! they are breaking international law. Israel has to choose between their own citizens and terrorists and terrorist supporters. Israel is on the defensive. Same thing I'm doing, defending my people from sick ppl like u.
Jacob2Israel 8 months ago
@Jacob2Israel that's rich coming from a Zionist baby killer, and don't try to twist my words. Israel uses illegal phosphorous bombs in civilian areas, builds illegal settlements, illegally occupies Palestine and you are talking about law, you are breaking international law maybe the world should get together kill your sorry ass!!!
jaycrazyman 8 months ago
@jaycrazyman you are so confused this conversation is like talking to a wall. all you do is insult me, and accuse me of things that aren't true. grow up.
Jacob2Israel 8 months ago
@Jacob2Israel Lmafo you are by far the most twisted Zionists I have ever encountered, tell me why is it ok for the IDF to kill people because they support Hamas but its not OK to kill you for support of the terrorist state Israel? Does the word hypocrite come to mind?
jaycrazyman 8 months ago
@jaycrazyman Israel is not a terrorist state by any means. If you actually bothered to visit Palestine AND Israel with an objective and open mind, you would notice that the people of Israel don't set out to wipe other Muslims off the face of the planet, unlike the Palestinian groups , like the Fatah, Hamas, and the Salafi, have repeatedly said over and over. Even if Israel gave them Jerusalem and the land they asked for and they got their state - those groups admit it won't satisify them.
EmilyGreene1984 8 months ago
@EmilyGreene1984 firstly you don't know me, so lets not pretend you know me well enough to pass judgement.
Israel is a terrorist state there is no getting away from that full stop, Palestinians live in constant terror from your terrorist government and the brutal IDF. You occupy Palestinian land, back them into a corner and when they lash out you start spouting your propaganda, well lets see Hamas was created by your government and the minute they realised they were being used they
jaycrazyman 8 months ago
@EmilyGreene1984 stopped working for your government and then you decide to label them terrorists. What a load of crap, Hamas have repeatedly asked for dialogue but your government has turned them down claiming that they don't negotiate with terrorists. Why? simple because Israel does not want peace full stop.
jaycrazyman 8 months ago
@EmilyGreene1984 and further more you preach of having an open mind, if you was open minded then you would see Israel for what it really is a Terrorist state that has total disregard for the people it occupies namely the Palestinians.
jaycrazyman 8 months ago
@jaycrazyman There is no Palestinian people... in reality there is no difference between a Jordanian,Palestian, Lebanese, or Syrian we posit a distinct Palestinian people only for the sake of opposing the Zionist entity (Zuhair Muhsein 3mar77) There is no land of Palestine, Nation or people of Palestine to occupy those Arabs are as much Southern Syrian or Jordanian according to their own leadership
starcatcher2222 8 months ago
@starcatcher2222 really, no such thing as Palestinians hey, Palestinians have been around long before any illegal state called Israel, in fact the land that Israel sits on was stolen from the Palestinians to house the Jews.
jaycrazyman 8 months ago
@jaycrazyman So please tell me what was the "Palestinian" capitol, what was the "Palestinian" currency, what type of government did "Palestine" have. You can parrot Arab fantasys but you can't produce an answer to any of those questions. A 1/2 million Arabs were between the Jordan river and the sea in 1920 there are 6X that now. And "Illegal state?" by what definition of legality would that be? Your reactionary opinion certainly does not define legality.
starcatcher2222 8 months ago
@starcatcher2222 firstly if a peoples do not have all of the above that does mean they didn't exist, they did many of them made homeless by your racist state, it doesn't matter how many arguments you come up with the fact of the matter is the large majority of Zionists in Israel have no claim to any of that land, but yet you force yourself on them and you expect them to just accept that, its not going to happen.
Your state is illegal check out United Nations Security Council Resolution 242!!!
jaycrazyman 8 months ago
@jaycrazyman and what did UN resolution 242 say that makes israel illegal? please tell me.
lakersjohnson3 8 months ago
@lakersjohnson3 (i) Withdrawal of Israel armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;
(ii) Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force."
jaycrazyman 8 months ago
@jaycrazyman actually, you have made the same error that many arab imperialist propagandists do. 242 says "territories occupied," it does not refer to ALL territories occupied. furthermore, israel is already in compliance seeing that it has withdrawn from the sinai. also, thank you for quoting the second clause, because syria and lebanon have not terminated their states of belligerency with israel, and therefore are in violation, and finally, where is the word PALESTINE ever mentioned in 242?
lakersjohnson3 8 months ago
@lakersjohnson3 I can't say Palestine was mentioned, the word used was middle east, but don't get your point are you saying the Palestinians don't deserve international protection?
Israel is in compliance really, that is why they still occupy the West Bank and still build illegal settlements, please explain?
jaycrazyman 8 months ago
@jaycrazyman what do you mean "the palestinians deserve international protection?" do you mean international protection to attack israel, to blow up restaurants, cafes, discotechs, to murder families in their sleep, and to reject every offer of statehood israel gives them? and settlements are not illegal. they might be bad and you may not like them, but they are not illegal. the west bank is not sovereign territory to anyone.
lakersjohnson3 8 months ago
@lakersjohnson3 the fact that Israel has no respect for international law puts them in the same category as the rest of what you might refer to as terrorists, those laws and any other laws were made for everyone to follow including Israel. The laws say Israel or any other country for that matter may not settle a land through conquest, which makes every settlement illegal... If the law had stretched far back enough say 1913 then it would have applied to the UK and the mandate....
jaycrazyman 8 months ago
@jaycrazyman Actually, nothing puts Israel in the same category of those who praise death, and the killing of innocent children in the name of Allah. Any border arrangements should be arrived at through negotiations and give and take - not through using innocents as human shields while shooting rockets at innocent civilians.
monysmusic 8 months ago
@monysmusic oh really, you are talking about killing children. You talk of using human shields it is well documented with video evidence that your terrorist state has been using innocent civilians as human shields, your terrorist state has been terrorising the Palestinians since its barbaric birth, your terrorist state has been killing children since its birth and you think you can point the finger FUCKING HYPOCRITE!!!
jaycrazyman 8 months ago
@jaycrazyman " it is well documented with video evidence that your terrorist state has been using innocent civilians as human shields" - where??
Your language only shows who's the barbaric one. There are innocent Palestinians being abused by Hamas as human shields and THIS video proves it. If you want justice, you should go to your leadership and point the finger at them. Or maybe you prefer the kind of leadership your people rebel against in Syria, Iran, Egypt, Jordan...should I continue?
monysmusic 8 months ago
@monysmusic really the language I use, given your sheer ignorance or I should say your acceptance of the terrorist acts that your government commits, warrants such language. But as far as videos go here you are:
watch?v=-yVHLrIpXwo
watch?v=acaU4D6dUqU&feature=fvst
jaycrazyman 8 months ago
@monysmusic The siege, the check points, the occupation of the West Bank is an act of war.
Any country, any peoples on this planet would do what the Palestinians are doing and what they are doing is trying to secure a future for themselves and their children.
jaycrazyman 8 months ago
@jaycrazyman actually, israel is not in violation of a single binding international legal statute. and seeing that the palestinian people elected hamas, a genocidal terrorist organization, to lead them, the palestinians are guilty of violating international law, bc hamas targets civilians, which is explicitly a violation of international law.
lakersjohnson3 8 months ago
@lakersjohnson3 wow, so the civilians deserve to die because they elected Hamas in free and fare election, something you Yankees complain that the mid east is lacking and the minute they do that they are in violation and should pay with their lives for electing a party that you don't agree with. Hamas are just as legitimate as any government elected in America. Israel targets civilians daily, kills 5 year old children for throwing stones, your OK with that because they voted for Hamas, right?
jaycrazyman 8 months ago
@jaycrazyman you are taking your talking points straight from arab imperialist propaganda. I'm sorry, but you know who else was democratically elected? answer: hitler. I can't believe you are apologizing for hamas. have you even read their charter? so you think it's okay for the palestinians to elect a theofascist, antisemitic, genocidal terrorist organization to lead them?
lakersjohnson3 8 months ago
@lakersjohnson3 really so you are saying that it was OK for Israel to kill 1500 people because they voted for Hamas, Hamas who once upon a time was backed by the Israeli government until Hamas figured out that the terrorist state of Israel was just using them. Anyway tell me summit, because of George Bush 2 million have died in Iraq so what should we do with you for voting for that genocidal maniac?
jaycrazyman 8 months ago
@jaycrazyman i never said "civilians" deserve to die. you really seem to be an apologist for hamas. in fact, it was revealed by this very same man a few months when he was interviewed in arabic that hamas lost about 700 of its own men in cast lead. furthermore, italian journalist lorenzo cremonesi went to gaza right after cast lead and determined that the number of dead could not have exceeded 1000. i can provide sources if you want. you just choose to believe corrupted numbers.
lakersjohnson3 8 months ago
@lakersjohnson3 oh really so you are telling me that the red cross and like minded organisations are lying and that one journalist from Italy is right, and show me the proof of the 1st man you talk off?
I don't have to be an apologetic for Hamas, Hamas won a free and fare election, that gives them legitimacy which is more them I can say for Israel who kills under the pretext of self defence, but yet they are the instigators....
jaycrazyman 8 months ago
@jaycrazyman israel NEVER intentionally kills palestinian civilians. virtually all palestinian "civilians" (many times they are not civilians) that day die because palestinian militants have chosen to fight israel from within civilian areas. and i'm glad you brought up the five year old stone thrower. don't you think there is something wrong with a society that permits five year olds to go out and throw stone's at armed soldiers? why isn't the five year old at home? why is he in a war zone?
lakersjohnson3 8 months ago
@lakersjohnson3 Israel does not intentionally kill civilians, less then 300 of those killed during cast lead where gunmen that means more then 1200 were civilians and you tell me Israel doesn't intentionally target civilians.
Where do you expect the kid to go that is there daily life, the whole of Gaza is a war zone and with that I am going to terminate this conversation, I cannot converse with anyone that justifies a bullet for a stone and especially when it is just a child.... Shame on you!!!
jaycrazyman 8 months ago
@jaycrazyman i never said the child deserved to die, i merely pointed out a huge problem within palestinian society, that is, the fact that children are permitted to enter war zones by their parents. in fact, most times, the child with the stone is standing in front of the guy with an rpg or a machine gun. the only people who INTENTIONALLY kill children in this conflict are palestinian terrorists and you know it. it's not in israel's interests to kill children or any civilians.
lakersjohnson3 8 months ago
@lakersjohnson3 don't just repeat the bullshit your media feed you back it up with evidence, 1.6 million people live in the Gaza strip which is around 25 miles long. It is the most densely populated area in the world, thanks to Israel stealing land, where do you expect these children to go, first you zionists imprison them in their own land then you don't want them to come out of their house. You shoot them and then blame them...
jaycrazyman 8 months ago
@jaycrazyman how about you just don't repeat the bullshit you are fed by whatever media you read? has it ever occurred to you who supplies the red cross and the international organizations with their casualty numbers? answer: hamas. here is the link: camera(dot)org/index(dot)asp?x_print=1&x_context=2&x_outlet=118&x_article=1952
lakersjohnson3 8 months ago
@lakersjohnson3 that is your source, you make me laugh. Now I can see why your so full of bullshit and blinded when it comes to the atrocities that Israel commit. You are deluded if you think that I am going to except a Islam bashing website as a legitimate source... Try a little harder next time and look for information that is more neutral......
jaycrazyman 8 months ago
@jaycrazyman actually, the original source was in AFP, as the source I posted indicated. it's not like they're making it up, my friend. just because you don't like the truth doesn't mean you can just deny it on the grounds that its "islam-bashing." the fact is, is that it's not "islam-bashing." nowhere in the article or on that site does ANYONE bash islam. but the funny thing is, you should be trying to defend your religion from the hamas zealots who muslims claim have "hijacked" it.
lakersjohnson3 7 months ago
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"Israeli troops demoted over Gaza 'human shield' boy", 9 February, 2000, BBC.
"New `outstretched arm' to replace IDF's human shields", 21 November 2010, Haaretz.
"IDF closes 2 Cast Lead human shield cases", 02/25/2010, Jerusalem Post.
"UN report says Israel uses human shields", March 23, 2009, Boston Herald (AP).
"IDF soldiers convicted of using 11-year-old as human shield in Gaza", 03.10.10, Haaretz.
OrthodoxDarwinist 7 months ago
"IDF’s ethics guru slams High Court ban on human shields" (again the IDF claims they should legally be allowed to use human shields), 10/06/2010, Jerusalem Post.
"Amnesty International: IDF use Palestinians as Human Shields" Jan 13, 2009.
"IDF To Appeal Ban on using Human Shields", 10-12-05, XinhuaNet.
"IDF to appeal 'human shield' ruling", 10.11.05, YNet.
"IDF is Responsible for Death of ‘Human Shield’, B'Tselem Jerusalem.
OrthodoxDarwinist 7 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist haha did you even read the jerusalem post article? do you even know what human shield means in this context? it means the IDF tells palestinian neighbors to go and try to convince their other palestinian neighbors who are terrorists to get out of the house and surrender so that the IDF doesn't have to blow it up. but do you want to talk about real human shields? like how hamas ACTUALLY orders civilians to surround its military locations? watch?v=g0wJXf2nt4Y
lakersjohnson3 7 months ago
@lakersjohnson3
How about you actually READ the article before commenting on it:
h tt p: / / ww w. j post. co m/Israel/Article. aspx?id=190354
The IDF's claims that the "neighbor procedure" (this is where they take an Arab civilian, usually always a kid, and use him/her as a human shield) should be allowed by Israeli law.
"The 'neighbor procedure' calls for using an Arab resident of a building being entered or searched to enter the building or to open suspicious objects." - JPost.
Idiot.
OrthodoxDarwinist 7 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist haha you completely misunderstood the article. first, any use of civilians in the manner you described is incredibly illegal in israel, that is why the soldiers were CONVICTED. the issue of the article was the the supreme court chose to ban ANY use of palestinian civilians in a warzone, and the article pointed out how that might not be good, bc sometimes civilians can be used to save lives (e.g. neighbors tell people to leave house). join real darwinists and support israel
lakersjohnson3 7 months ago
@lakersjohnson3
You do not know what the "neighbor procedure" is. It is when civilians are put in a dangerous position to minimize risk to the soldiers; this is called HUMAN SHIELDING!
"The 'neighbor procedure' calls for using an Arab resident of a building being entered or searched to enter the building or to open suspicious objects." - JPost.
The IDF was arguing they should be allowed to do this, which proves just how sick and morally deformed you Zionists are.
OrthodoxDarwinist 7 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist you really misunderstood the article my friend. the whole REASON the court was involved was bc it came to light that some unit in the idf had used that procedure of human shielding, thinking it was legal under the neighbor procedure. they were prosecuted as a result, and the IDF was angry not that that practice was banned, but that the practice of using civilians to try to convince terrorists to surrender to SAVE LIVES was banned by the court.
lakersjohnson3 7 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist the story actually demonstrates the power of israel's justice system to stand up to the military, a power that typically doesn't exist in most arab countries.
lakersjohnson3 7 months ago
@lakersjohnson3
WOW! The judicial system told the IDF to stop using civilians as human shields, and you want Israel to get some sort of medal for it???
WOW!!! You guys must be saints!
But seriously, all this story shows is how morally deformed and evil the IDF and Zionism is, to actually try to argue that they should lawfully be allowed to use little kids as human shields is really a new low of humanity.
OrthodoxDarwinist 7 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist again you lie and distort. the whole court case happened because of ONE alleged use by ONE unit of a human shield, an incredibly unethical and terrible thing to do, but an unfortunate thing that happens in every military during every war. the case of this ONE time use of using an actual kid as a human shield (with the conviction of the perpetrators), caused the court to ban the entire 'neighbor policy,' which does not involve human shields, which is why the IDF got angry.
lakersjohnson3 7 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist and here's a good question for you: how many judicial systems in the palestinian territories have prosecuted terrorists for arranging the blowing up of israeli cafes, discotechs, busses, restaurants, and malls? answer: 0.
lakersjohnson3 7 months ago
@lakersjohnson3
Why would they be arrested for defending their land from an ILLEGAL (get this word through your thick head) racist occupation?
On the other hand have you ever seen Israel prosecuting those in the IDF who have committed the massive list of war crimes and abuses against humanity? NO!
Does Israel have no extradition treaty with anyone and refuses to prosecute fugitive Jewish rapists, child molestors, murderers, gangsters and all sorts of criminal? YES!
OrthodoxDarwinist 6 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist ok so there are a number of distortions in your response, so I will try and address them. 1. the occupation is not illegal by any stretch of international law. 2. the occupation is not in the least bit racist.
3. is blowing up cafes and discotechs filled with civilians a form of legitimate "resistance" in your view?
4. israel has prosecuted whatever soldiers have been found to commit GENUINE war crimes. there haven't been that many, the IDF is very moral.
lakersjohnson3 6 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist and 5. as of 1999, the extradition issue has been completely solved. but since you are so concerned with extradition, why don't you have anger at switzerland where rapists literally do get to live? jewishvirtuallibrary(dot)org/jsource/History/extraditionpol(dot)html
lakersjohnson3 6 months ago
@Liar
No the "extradition issue" has not been solved at all, Israel refuses to extradite anyone who is Jewish, and refuses to prosecute crimes that were "committed in the lands of the Goyim". Thus Israel only notices crimes if it is committed against Jewish people, which is very telling.
The criminals Israel refuses to hand over include those guilty of genocide (former NKVD officers, ie: Nahman Dushanski), child molesters (ie: Abraham Mondrowitz), rapists, gangsters and others.
OrthodoxDarwinist 6 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist haha no you're just being plain bigoted. dushansky is hardly a mass murderer, and his other co-soviet security officers who did just as much as him who were not jewish were not prosecuted by lithuania. only him...hmmm, smells anti-semitic. as for mondrowitz, i didn't think you would care if it was a jew molesting jewish children, but he was actually arrested in israel for child pornography.
lakersjohnson3 6 months ago
Case that highlighted how corrupt Israel's anti-extradition policies were was Samuel Sheinbein, who committed a shockingly gruesome murder in Maryland, fled to Israel and was shielded from all prosecution (despite never having visited Israel before, ie: JUST because he was a Jew).
1999 Amendment 6 refuses Israelis (who were citizens before crime) to be prosecuted overseas, and for those who commit the crime then obtain citizenship it is case-by-case (ie: whenever they can get away with it).
OrthodoxDarwinist 6 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist and those "israelis" also includes arabs. ANY citizen of israel, arab or jew. and just so you know sheinbein is currently in JAIL in israel.
lakersjohnson3 6 months ago
@lakersjohnson3
NO it does not include Arabs at all! If you actually go and look at the amendments to their policy on extradition you will see that it clearly stipulates the "protection" ONLY of those who "qualify under the law of return" (ie: Jews and Jews ONLY).
The fact that you just made up such rubbish about something you clearly know nothing about proves you are harboring a deep-seated racial bias.
OrthodoxDarwinist 6 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist here was a quote from the israeli foreign ministry: "Any person may be extradited from Israel except for a person who was an Israeli national at the time of the commission of the offense. However, to ensure that an Israeli national does not escape prosecution, Sections 7A and 10A of the Penal Law, 5737-1977 (as amended) extend the jurisdiction of the Israeli courts to hear cases in which an Israeli national is alleged to have committed a crime abroad." continued
lakersjohnson3 6 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist arabs are israeli nationals too. and by the way I'm not the person with racial bias, you are. you have bias against the jewish people. jews come in all colors, my friend, they are white, black, and brown, and israel is the ONLY country in the middle east where arabs, jews, muslims, christians, and everyone else are EQUAL under the law and have full rights. none of your propaganda and hate will ever change that fact. i suggest you visit the place.
lakersjohnson3 6 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist and you're also denying facts. every case of extradition in israel is reviewed and determined if it has merit. many people have been extradited, such as oded orbach, the arms dealer. but again, I ask you, if you are so concerned with extradition, why focus on israel? why aren't you writing on the youtube pages of videos about switzerland? i bet i could take a good guess as to the answer.
lakersjohnson3 6 months ago
@lakersjohnson3
Because Switzerland doesn't harbor and protect criminals of a particular ethnic group out of a feeling of racial superiority and ethnocentrism.
"In 1978, the Knesset passed the Offenses Committed Abroad Act. It eliminated extradition of Israeli citizens and switched Israel to the Continental system. The Extradition Act was thus amended so that no Israeli citizen could be extradited." - JVL
(cont'd)
OrthodoxDarwinist 6 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist haha, a feeling of racial superiority...yeah right. being jewish is not being part of a race. as for ethnocentrism, the extradition policy was put into place with the mindset of PROTECTING jews who had been WRONGLY accused, the assumption being that antisemitism was the reason behind many prosecutions, as it likely was in the case of dushansky. but is this your whole problem with israel? all this talk and whining by you and all you can point to is the extradition policy?
lakersjohnson3 6 months ago