Those breeders seem total idiots! I have heard a few reasoning of that kind of breeding: "Rhodesian ridgebacks wouldn't be ridgebacks if there weren't ridges." and so on. Maybe they just compensate their own looks with the dogs' looks.
There are so many elders..... why do they not want to realise, what's really happening to all these breeds? Why do they ignore the fact? And they're going to teach the younger what's "right" in standard pureblood breeds, even though it's wrong..
for me an answer for that is immaturity.
Makes me really sad, because I have realised the fact before I had seen this but .... eldery? They should know better.
6.38 - you can see these 3 women are just total ass holes with no morals. lots of money and no love for anything but themselves. i sincerely hope that they suffer later in their lives and maybe that will shine some light on how disgusting they have been towards dogs
People want their dogs to be like little dolls/toys they can mess about with so that they look 'pretty'. These are living sentient creatures, they aren't commodities, and it's pathetic to see these human beings building their identities around the little ribbons their toys win them.
The inflexibility of the KC employees & breeders interviewed just sums up a particularly British attitude of snobbery & small-mindedness. It's the dogs who suffer, their bodies are their prisons.
The comment Dr. Rusbridge made at 3:46 made my heart so heavy. This is an amazing documentary, and I am so glad I found it, everyone needs to watch it.
I can honestly say, I am ashamed. I think what people need to realize is that the dog you get is not always as healthy as it seems. I'm not sure what will happen with our corgi, as he has the worst digestive system ever, what with food allergies and bacterial infections on the skin to where they cannot be cured.
I don't know what to really say, other than research people. Tons and tons of research on breeders and lineages and everything under the sun.
Some day I would like to have a corgi welcomed into my family but I am scared to buy one that may have hip problems. I do know that responsible and excellent breeders will not have pedigree corgis, and thaty they are willing to take the puppy back no matter what age it may live up to be, and that they will have tested for genetic mistakes, but where can I find a trust worthy breeder?
Pembrokes are a tad prone to problems due to popularity, but most of the time, they're a pretty hardy breed. The best advice I can offer is to look through the bloodlines, see the parents on site, study the location in which the dogs are raised (are they locked up in kennels? Are they safe?) and try to find out all you can on the breed's possible health issues. Just ask tons of questions and the more the breeder can answer these questions appropriately, the better the dogs will be.
Thanks for answering my question. I am well aware of puppy mills and how bad they are for the dogs, their health and their behavior. And I have learned a good breeder will be willing to take the dog back at any given time. I will never lock my dog up in a kennel due to their need to exercise and be mentally stimulated. Thanks once again. :)
bunch of old biddies with nothing btter to do with their time except breed dogs..of course they are upset, they don't want someone coming in and stopping them from 'playing god.' it's all they have in their pathetic drab grey lives!
There is no reason to demonize all breeders. Responsible breeders will not breed unchecked dogs. Responsible breeders will not breed ill dogs. Responsible owners will report their dog's health to the breeder or directly to the kennel club. Responsible owners will not allow their ill dog to be bred regardless their success in the show world.
@Karoish But if there's nothing in place to stop irresponsible breeders, and they in fact are rewarded for their actions, what's to stop that sort of thing from flourishing?
The whole concept of a "purebred" is unnatural and based on limiting the gene pool -- not a good thing for any animal. Dogs are living things -- not toys.
i wouldn't worry about the Kennel Club. all of its members look to be a thousand years old. they'll die soon and so will their stupidity and stubborness.
Virgina Barwell won't have her dogs skan because for her it is all about the money and not the welfare of the dogs. She wouldn't make any money, what a bitch!
Veronica Hull is such a bitter and disgusting bitch, and no wonder with that hideous face she never got ravished by a man; hope her womb never gave fruit since it would be rotten. Ronnie Irving has a skull full of shit, no brain in there, that would explain why he thinks that inbreading is ok when nature makes it clear that that is a big mistake. I really hope that the thing Jeff Sampson has on his forehead is cancer and he has a nasty death.
That blonde woman that won best in show is just a complete idiot in my opinion lying to the person that was asking the questions? and letting her dog sire 34 litters knowing that her dog had the disease is just ridiculous! I don't mind the kennel club and good breeders that breed for healthy dogs to live happy lives but its the bad ones that i just can't get my head around...
I have a labrador bred by Nolene Dodd of Eneleon Labradors Garstang, he has severe elbow dysplacia and must have painkillers every day, I called her when we found out to advise against breeding from the parents again, five minutes later the police were on the phone saying she called them to say she was being 'harrassed' do not buy a dog from her. Also the sire was from Oakhouse Labradors Wales, very high hip and eye scores and she is a crufts judge, these people are only in it for the money!
I feel Carol's pain... I fear for the furture of the doberman, an average life span of 6-7 years is NOT ok with me... This whole thing is disgusting... I hate the greed of the kennel clubs!
Kudos to the video uploader for spreading the word! The problem of inbreeding has been known for years in the horse racing industry, but it's about time someone said something about other animals as well. Stupid breeders. We all know the bottom line is status and profit at the cost of the health and safety of these wonderful animals.
Geez people. Take a chill pill. This documentary only shows BAD breeders. There are many GOOD breeders out there who produce healthy puppies. I plan to go to a breeder and get a longhair Chihuahua. And i have known a mutt who had so many problems his owners had to put him down, so it's not like all purebreds are unhealthy and inbred.
@EverBlueMinty completely agree with you, it's true there are lots of bad breeders, but there are also EXCELLENT ones, you just have to really look hard and make your research before buying your dog. I have GSD's, and i have seen both bad an well bred dogs, one example of a healthy GSD you can find it here in youtube, look after "nexx hartis bohemia", healthy 100% showline dog full of power!! i just love my shepherds (:
It's official. I'll NEVER get a pedigree dogs. I knew these dogs were inbred like crazy but if this is how "responsible organization-regulated dog breeders" are suppose to act then screw them! When I get a dog, I'm going to get shelter mutt and be happy!
it should be a punishable offence to knowingly breed dogs with genetic conditions. its disqusting, especially that silly cunt at the end who said "Im suprised to see you hear" to the reporter who spoke out about the horrible condition, what an ignorant stuck up bitch.
i don't care if you're a vet, an animal lover, animal hater, a breeder, whatever - INBREEDING IS WRONG! you wouldn't let your kids mate with their relatives would you? no, and not because its sick and weird, but because you take gene combinations that are bad on their own, together they're a nightmare. you set yourself, your spawn, and their up for disaster.
I love animals and this makes me so ANGRY. I don't MIND the breeding of dogs, but not at the expense of the dog's health. This is just really sad and distressing to me...
Why came people just stop breeding dogs for the way they look and start thinkinhg about the dogs welfare and the impact its having on the dogs and the pain that is putting them its not nessarey.
I am shocked! This is outrageous! If I am ever going to have a dog it will be a crossbreed, hopefully with crossbred parents and grandparents. It will not be a pureblood! Incest is not natural in any biological form!
people who buy affected puppies should sue the breeders they bought them from. ESPECIALLY if the stud dog or mother dog is known to have an inherited disease!
Everybody with some common sense and a bit of education know's that close relatitive breeding(like brother and sister) is very bad for genetics. The people who actually think that this is good for dogs and other animals are simply stupid.
Further the documentary is an eye-opener, since I never knew before today that there are these major health issues with a lot of dogs. If I would ever get a dog at least I will make sure its a healty one.
good documentary. anybody with a reasonable knowledge in genetics know that a limited gene pool within a breeding population causes a lot of problems, seen and unseen. we've been crossing dog breeds for our working service K9s, and they're excellent animals!
In my opinion, the dogs of 100 years ago are what the dog is meant to look like. Not the dogs of today, those dogs are REAL dogs not the trash of today.
@AngelEmfrbl i'm sure you must know that 100 years before that, the dogs looked much different than even that... there will always be change continuing definition in every breed...
@AngelEmfrbl I agree! These's breeders dont care because they weren't affected, but if they lost their best friend, they'd feel differently! I'm glad this lady is takin action. I've got friends that have lost expensive pets to horrible genetic diseases. This is why I dont want a show quality purebreed I get a pet quality and pet quality purebreeds are still beautiful but healthier!! So are working quality dogs!
@ashgrace: maybe you´re a bit too emotional and not scientific. I am a vet in europe and know about it. Maybe you could argue in a more objective and scientific way but saying "fucking rubbish" ;-)
I love to see my dog win in agility, I can't describe the joy I feel. To know that people breed their dogs in such a way that the animal suffers just so that they can feel this same joy, it upsets me and makes me furious. Something I will never be able to comprehend. For me its simple, my joy comes hand in hand with the well-being of my animal, my friend.
its not about a pretty look if a toy dog is suppose to be 13 inch tall you don't make it any larger or it would not be to breed standard
140 years ago all the different pedigree dogs were on top form and so the breed standard was made but yet again puppy farmers and people not watching there breeding lines made dogs into what they are today take a look at the German shep an
the Pyrenean the sheps legs have gone stupid and the Pyrenean is now the size of a large lab!
The breed standard was there for a reason but people like you obviously did not care so when your grandchildren ask you why does that dog look like its in pain when it walks you can tell them it was because people like you ignored the breed standard when it was made
The breeders who think that this isn't a major problem in 'Pedigree' dogs should be shot in the face, chopped up into little pieces and fed to their beloved pets. Let nature take it's course and allow the dogs to breed with whom they see fit. Maybe in another 100 years, all the damage done from the past 100 years can be resolved.
People should not comment on things which they have no experiance on, showng dogs is not a beauty show, when you love your dog and you see it in the ring and it wins it class is the best thing ever, when a dog wins it class it means it is the closest dog to breed standard which was decided when the kennel club came to life in1873, i think that all breeders should test dogs before breeding from them as this will limit the ammount of problems and inherited diseases.
Are you void of rational thought? Everything points to yes. You should be embarrassed by what you say in this documentary. I hope you believe in forgiveness 'cause you'll need some.
Many breeds of dogs have had problems over the years (as do humans and thousands of other domesticated breeds of animals and wild animals). However good breeders have worked hand in hand with the Kennel Club, and Vets and scientist to rid or reduce the incidents of many of these breeds i.e. GPRA in Irish setters or hip Dysplasia in most breeds (thousands of dogs go through the KC?BVA schemes each year)breeders/owners and the KC donate huge sums of money every year for research
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for conditions who in turn benefit human kind (the DNA structure of dogs is very similar to mans)NONE of this was shown in the programme. Yes this Programme did set out to blame the ills of dogs on the KC (if you did not hear or see this I suggest you watch it again.....of have your eyes and hearing tested!!), remember its not the KC that actually breeds any dogs, but they are the ones who have already set in place many restrictions on breeding for animal welfare and
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improvement (but do you actually know any of these....by your comments I doubt so). The makers of PDE LIED in the letters they sent to many of the organisations and individuals who had originally agreed to take part in the programme, the vast majority of the material they filmed was never used as it did not suit THEIR set agenda (the President of the BVA interview reduced to a few seconds from almost 1 hour as he did not say what THEY wanted to hear).
The programme is very biased and has been subject to a long enquiry by Ofcom based on its unfairness. However Mxgn102 due to your lack of basic knowledge on this subject and abusive manner, you seem to be the gullibility in believing all the producers of PDE have said, your comment do not surprise me. Yes I have owned, bred, shown and judges dogs for nearly 40 years
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as have three generations of my family, we have used all the health tests available to us, lived and loved the pets that we have owned who also just happened to be very successful in the show ring too, the average age of our dogs has been 15 years with some living up to 18, and have imported dogs from around the world to ensure our strain maintains a wide genetic background.....but of course you seem only to be able to judge people like myself based only on this greatly flawed programme.
the makers of this very bias and unbalanced program have tried to lay the ills of ALL dogs at the door of the show ring, but they now admit the number of dogs they say are in the UK is in fact more than twice the amount than have any association /registration with the kennel club, so this mean the kennel club have not and could not of had any impact on half of the dogs, the kennel club figures also show that on average
Are you kidding me lehlam. It is sad you have seen the documentary this way , , , the makers tried to do no such thing as lay the ills of ALL dogs at the door of the show ring. It was obvious to anyone with half a brain that they were highlighting a single issue that is one of many (puppyfarms being an obvious other). Defensiveness perhaps on your part?
Shirley6677 just watch the prog again you will see (and the makers have confirmed this) they are seating out to attack the KC as they make NO mention of puppy farmers AT ALL but blame it all on show dogs, if you think differnt tell me where they mention puppy farmers then??
you all have to admit we are having more and more problem with dogs these days be it aggression, structural problems etc. surely the KC must take some more responsibility than it has, like the doc said 2rds of all dogs in the UK are pedigree.
with many of their figure &so called facts, its the sames at the RSPCA who claimed to have overwhelming evidence but have not /can not publish anyto back up their chief vets claim that hundreds of thousand of pedigrees dogs are ill .....but then again he calls all pedigree dogs mutants
less than 50% of all pedigree dogs are reg.d with the KC & neither are their parents! but the makers the program although now publicly acknowledge this FACT they decided to NOT to say this inPDE as they wanted to put all the blame at the door of the KC, they should of looked at this in balanced way THEY CHOOSE NOT TOO, they infact have greatly mislead
no they dont mislead you dolt, they are not trying to blame the KC they are trying to point out that dog breads these days have LOTS AND LOTS of heath problems because of they way they are bread, now i am guessing that you dont like this news which means that A: you are a dog breeder or B: you know someone who is. AGAIN YOU ARE A IDIOT FOR CHOOSING TO IGNORE THE REAL MESSAGE OF THIS DOCUMENTARY
only 1% of any breed goes into the show ring and indeed in many breeds (especially the most popular/common breeds) the vast majority are not show breeders who produce puppies and they would take very little notice of what dogs are winning (and therefore would be queuing up to use them) just what the breed standard would require them to look like(and any interpretation/assessment of that standard made by judge in the ring) and
more importantly very little concern for health testing, so looking at this if less than half of one percent of all of the dogs in a breed are ever shown just how did the producers come up with the notion that they have had such an impact on the other 99.5% of dogs in a breed, is just does not add up , but then again the producers are not interested in facts.........just looking to sell a story
This is horrible. Noone of these people really loves dogs. It is just greed and vanity. Dogs should be just dogs and all these contests are b..t for totally stupid people. If animals could prosecute us most of us would be send to the fire squad.
breeding for looks is the epitome of stupidity in dogs....breed em for a JOB anmd only thoise that can do the job getr bred and the issues will pretty much go away. The inbreeding argument is a bit wrong also. Look at fast lane bulldogs. Most are VERY tightly bred but bred for a purpose ( whether you agree with the purpose or not) and you do not see this crap.
Stupd ass brits are fucking all up these old fuckers make me sick how can they say when a dig is healthy when is clearly visible is not no wonder the Americans got their independence from such imbecils too bad they didn't blow the hell out of the UK with the stupid queen and shit they are doing to dogs what hittler wouldve done to the human race
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I'd just like to point out to anyone watching this... one thing they conveniently forget to mention is that syringomyelia is NOT HEREDITARY, therefore two dogs who have been tested clear from it can produce a puppy that is a sufferer. I know one of the breeders on this that spoke to the camera, and what she said was edited and censored, making it biased towards the programme. A lot of the 'facts' this programme puts across are actually untrue, the vast majority of the CKCS are healthy and loved.
Googoogilly, two dogs tested clear can be carriers, as in many HERITABLE conditions. Sarah Blott considers CM/SM to be HIGHLY HERITABLE. "Early estimates of the heritability of SM suggest it is around 0.7-0.8 or that 70-80% of the variation between individuals is genetic in origin and about 20-30% is environmental."
Fuck u just that fuck u u think this show is lying? huh? this progamme says the truth y do u think its called Pedigree Dogs Exposed the thing u read were coverups that's y its called EXPOSED RETARD!
@fishrule1942 pure breds, r not bad, not all bad, if we could have more seriousness in health checks and be VERY CAREFUL, and not be a jerk, pure breds can be very healthy, too bad we don't.
The crux of the problem with breeding is that it requires an understanding of biology and genetics if it is to be done responsibly, yet a lot of these people clearly have no idea what they're doing.
People considering buying a dog breed should research it, and make sure the dog is not affected by an inherited disease, and never bred from if it is a carrier.
3:25 what a CUNT. Her diseased dog fathered 26 littlers since he was diagnosed? She`s an animal abuser, imagine all the poor dogs that are going to live with one of the most painful diseases in the world. I bet she LOVES the money. That f***ing scamming bitch BELONGS IN PRISON. Die in a fire.
I AGREE COMPLETELY! A CLASSIC UGLY INBRED PEROXIDE DYED BIMBO WITH NOTHING BUT AIR BETWEEN HER FUCKING EARS! SOMEONE NEEDS TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE THAT STUPID BITCH SUFFER AS MUCH AS HER DOG AND HIS PUPPIES WILL! MAYBE THEN THE FUCKING DRAG QUEEN LOOK ALIKE WILL THINK AGAIN! CONGENITAL MORON!!!
Good comment DopesNextAccount, I couldn't have said it better myself!!!
A "funny" thing is that the "rules" about how they should look hasn't changed that much in 100 years, it's how peolpe read them.
If the judgers in the shows were forced to have some sort of healt-education (like the ones you take in collegue for becoming a vet/vetassistant) they'd never read the rules like they do
Exactly. I have on several occations wished we had robots as show-judges, instead of these people that interpret breed standards in any way they like.
(Just look how the Mastino, the GSD, Chow Chow or basically any extreme breed looked fifty years ago - a tremendous difference)
Either that - or away with the competition in the show ring - all it should be is judging the individual dog - and that's that. (Or it goes like it is now - people want more and more and more of the physical traits)
The Kennel Club's argument to all of this is the fear that the breeders will breed outside of the kennel club, but if they would just think about it... That wouldn't make much since for the breeders. If they want to breed for the registry then they would have to breed within the Kennel Club. They would have to obey the rules!
I completely agree with the description of how stoic these poor animals are. What loyal determination to love a person who produces such a deformed and painful body for such pointless and selfish purposes. You love your dog like you would a child- but you would do all of this to a child?
This is insane. I find the cruelty in all this very depressing. More upsetting still is the flagrant unwillingness to even consider looking at the facts or listening to an opposing view on the part of the breeders and the KC. There's just something about ignorant and irrational people that really makes me angry.
Thanks for sharing this video. And hats off to the RSPCA and Pedigree for pulling their support of Crufts.
Totally irresponsible breeding, knowing that the dog is passing on its serious genetic defect to future dogs is totally down to one thing..MONEY.. I am glad this has been exposed.. the public have the power to change this and the kennel club the responsibility to enforce it.
I agree. If I´d be breeding a certain breed, and heard there might be an illness among the breed I havent heard of yet and that it can easily go unnoticed if not checked at the vet, I´d get really nervous and would immediately want to find more about it! Because I certainly woulnt want to be responsible of causing the death of other dogs just because I havent checked my dogs health at a vet :(
The breeders are the real freak show in this- Hitler must be their icon.
bizzare. When asked why these 'furnishings' (excessive loose skin) were desirable the judge responded that it's 'the way the breed is'. Typical example of the idiocy demonstrated by so many breeders/ kennel club officials here. Never questioning why such clearly pointless and often dangerous mutations are promoted. The desire to breed an animal for cosmetic characteristics above health and longevity is disgusting.
WALLE9000 thank you very much for posting this. i watched it all in tears. i'm doing an college assignment on pedigree dogs and i was researching inbreeding. this has helped me and agian i thank you
8:28 = A male wolf who cares. This man is a hero.
Tyco200 1 month ago
6:50 = Three Disgusting Inbred Piggies that need to be shot. Worthless human pigs.
Tyco200 1 month ago
Those breeders seem total idiots! I have heard a few reasoning of that kind of breeding: "Rhodesian ridgebacks wouldn't be ridgebacks if there weren't ridges." and so on. Maybe they just compensate their own looks with the dogs' looks.
Dangerousefck99 3 months ago
How can anyone right of mind dislike this documentary
kibibbles 3 months ago
There are so many elders..... why do they not want to realise, what's really happening to all these breeds? Why do they ignore the fact? And they're going to teach the younger what's "right" in standard pureblood breeds, even though it's wrong..
for me an answer for that is immaturity.
Makes me really sad, because I have realised the fact before I had seen this but .... eldery? They should know better.
AkaiTsukiSama 5 months ago
Their silence is indicative of their guilt. They are destroying the health and quality of life an animal who they claim to care about. It's a shame.
HeavyMetalScoopula 5 months ago
decades of pedigree breeding, and look how far it's all come.
it's all just sad and pathetic. But good to all the breeders who put health first and foremost, they probably have it hard.
oompadiddly 7 months ago
6.38 - you can see these 3 women are just total ass holes with no morals. lots of money and no love for anything but themselves. i sincerely hope that they suffer later in their lives and maybe that will shine some light on how disgusting they have been towards dogs
sheppaow91 8 months ago
dog scratched! all dogs scratch, made me wanna choke her. Stupid idiot -.-
RezzaNL 8 months ago
That blonde bimbo allowed her dog to breed when she knows he has a disease. What a bitch! Very irresponsible
citizenlen 8 months ago
May all ignorant dog breeders burn for ever, especially the Cavalier bitch who did not anwser the questions and walked away.
glennzoo 8 months ago
Sometimes im so ashames of how stupid humans can be....We are the most evolved animals yet we are also the dumbest!
How the hell could someone breed a dog knowing that it was in pain, that it would be screaming from it and yet turn a blind eye?
These people need more then a slap the stupid idiots...its terrable what humans have done to mans best friend!!
I just hope one day they will all come to their senses....thanks for posting :)
bawden92 9 months ago 4
is anyone else not able to get through to the number at the end?
chelbo91 10 months ago
People want their dogs to be like little dolls/toys they can mess about with so that they look 'pretty'. These are living sentient creatures, they aren't commodities, and it's pathetic to see these human beings building their identities around the little ribbons their toys win them.
The inflexibility of the KC employees & breeders interviewed just sums up a particularly British attitude of snobbery & small-mindedness. It's the dogs who suffer, their bodies are their prisons.
HerzogsShoe 10 months ago 2
The comment Dr. Rusbridge made at 3:46 made my heart so heavy. This is an amazing documentary, and I am so glad I found it, everyone needs to watch it.
seegreyhoundrun 11 months ago
What a bunch of ignorant old tarts. :(
petradejong1977 11 months ago 3
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petradejong1977 11 months ago
I can honestly say, I am ashamed. I think what people need to realize is that the dog you get is not always as healthy as it seems. I'm not sure what will happen with our corgi, as he has the worst digestive system ever, what with food allergies and bacterial infections on the skin to where they cannot be cured.
I don't know what to really say, other than research people. Tons and tons of research on breeders and lineages and everything under the sun.
Metroid4ever 1 year ago
@Metroid4ever
Some day I would like to have a corgi welcomed into my family but I am scared to buy one that may have hip problems. I do know that responsible and excellent breeders will not have pedigree corgis, and thaty they are willing to take the puppy back no matter what age it may live up to be, and that they will have tested for genetic mistakes, but where can I find a trust worthy breeder?
Silvia1826 1 year ago
@Silvia1826
Pembrokes are a tad prone to problems due to popularity, but most of the time, they're a pretty hardy breed. The best advice I can offer is to look through the bloodlines, see the parents on site, study the location in which the dogs are raised (are they locked up in kennels? Are they safe?) and try to find out all you can on the breed's possible health issues. Just ask tons of questions and the more the breeder can answer these questions appropriately, the better the dogs will be.
Metroid4ever 1 year ago
@Metroid4ever
Thanks for answering my question. I am well aware of puppy mills and how bad they are for the dogs, their health and their behavior. And I have learned a good breeder will be willing to take the dog back at any given time. I will never lock my dog up in a kennel due to their need to exercise and be mentally stimulated. Thanks once again. :)
Silvia1826 10 months ago
@Silvia1826
Good luck! Corgis are wonderful dogs, as my family owns one. He's been fairly healthy his whole life except for the food allergies.
Metroid4ever 10 months ago
@Silvia1826 You can greatly increase your odds by getting a mixed dog. Just sayin'
BaboonJihad 7 months ago
human ignorance astounds me. it is genetic dress up for heaven's sakes! save the wolf, save the dog!!!!!!!!
alexandraetta 1 year ago
1:23 - Bitch ring. Yeah sounds about right to me
winchesterxwolf 1 year ago 4
bunch of old biddies with nothing btter to do with their time except breed dogs..of course they are upset, they don't want someone coming in and stopping them from 'playing god.' it's all they have in their pathetic drab grey lives!
pol4r19 1 year ago
There is no reason to demonize all breeders. Responsible breeders will not breed unchecked dogs. Responsible breeders will not breed ill dogs. Responsible owners will report their dog's health to the breeder or directly to the kennel club. Responsible owners will not allow their ill dog to be bred regardless their success in the show world.
Karoish 1 year ago
@Karoish But if there's nothing in place to stop irresponsible breeders, and they in fact are rewarded for their actions, what's to stop that sort of thing from flourishing?
The whole concept of a "purebred" is unnatural and based on limiting the gene pool -- not a good thing for any animal. Dogs are living things -- not toys.
zammmerjammer 1 year ago
this is eye-opening. thank you.
i wouldn't worry about the Kennel Club. all of its members look to be a thousand years old. they'll die soon and so will their stupidity and stubborness.
socksandboxes 1 year ago 3
Virgina Barwell won't have her dogs skan because for her it is all about the money and not the welfare of the dogs. She wouldn't make any money, what a bitch!
NEBESHIKU 1 year ago
Veronica Hull is such a bitter and disgusting bitch, and no wonder with that hideous face she never got ravished by a man; hope her womb never gave fruit since it would be rotten. Ronnie Irving has a skull full of shit, no brain in there, that would explain why he thinks that inbreading is ok when nature makes it clear that that is a big mistake. I really hope that the thing Jeff Sampson has on his forehead is cancer and he has a nasty death.
NEBESHIKU 1 year ago 3
Beverlly Costello is a piece of over taned trash. She looks like the nasties whore, but then again, she is.
NEBESHIKU 1 year ago
That blonde woman that won best in show is just a complete idiot in my opinion lying to the person that was asking the questions? and letting her dog sire 34 litters knowing that her dog had the disease is just ridiculous! I don't mind the kennel club and good breeders that breed for healthy dogs to live happy lives but its the bad ones that i just can't get my head around...
TheMissChloe98 1 year ago
i love that lady that had the spanials cuz she is trying to help the other dogs out
sharky5921 1 year ago
I have a labrador bred by Nolene Dodd of Eneleon Labradors Garstang, he has severe elbow dysplacia and must have painkillers every day, I called her when we found out to advise against breeding from the parents again, five minutes later the police were on the phone saying she called them to say she was being 'harrassed' do not buy a dog from her. Also the sire was from Oakhouse Labradors Wales, very high hip and eye scores and she is a crufts judge, these people are only in it for the money!
cmgill2 1 year ago 4
Who the fuck are the people who make these rules? They are truly sick and the people who follow them.
Scooda912 1 year ago
I feel Carol's pain... I fear for the furture of the doberman, an average life span of 6-7 years is NOT ok with me... This whole thing is disgusting... I hate the greed of the kennel clubs!
mieshaSezja 1 year ago
Kudos to the video uploader for spreading the word! The problem of inbreeding has been known for years in the horse racing industry, but it's about time someone said something about other animals as well. Stupid breeders. We all know the bottom line is status and profit at the cost of the health and safety of these wonderful animals.
Age0Kings 1 year ago
Geez people. Take a chill pill. This documentary only shows BAD breeders. There are many GOOD breeders out there who produce healthy puppies. I plan to go to a breeder and get a longhair Chihuahua. And i have known a mutt who had so many problems his owners had to put him down, so it's not like all purebreds are unhealthy and inbred.
EverBlueMinty 1 year ago
@EverBlueMinty completely agree with you, it's true there are lots of bad breeders, but there are also EXCELLENT ones, you just have to really look hard and make your research before buying your dog. I have GSD's, and i have seen both bad an well bred dogs, one example of a healthy GSD you can find it here in youtube, look after "nexx hartis bohemia", healthy 100% showline dog full of power!! i just love my shepherds (:
vondergrosseohren 1 year ago
It's official. I'll NEVER get a pedigree dogs. I knew these dogs were inbred like crazy but if this is how "responsible organization-regulated dog breeders" are suppose to act then screw them! When I get a dog, I'm going to get shelter mutt and be happy!
HitomiNoRyu 1 year ago 2
Bevelie enjoys her brother and dad 's cock. Incest fucker
Laxcon 1 year ago
Fucking old people. Fuck them.
DioVonKarma 1 year ago 7
Thanks for uploading - very informative!
cheyelleomar 1 year ago
Cudoos to Carol Folwer, I hope she succeeds.
MillStream30 1 year ago 6
Eye opening documentary, sick eugenic ideas causing agony.
yayforpupsis 1 year ago 3
it should be a punishable offence to knowingly breed dogs with genetic conditions. its disqusting, especially that silly cunt at the end who said "Im suprised to see you hear" to the reporter who spoke out about the horrible condition, what an ignorant stuck up bitch.
amylea234kl 1 year ago 8
i don't care if you're a vet, an animal lover, animal hater, a breeder, whatever - INBREEDING IS WRONG! you wouldn't let your kids mate with their relatives would you? no, and not because its sick and weird, but because you take gene combinations that are bad on their own, together they're a nightmare. you set yourself, your spawn, and their up for disaster.
rrraawwwkk50 1 year ago 6
I love animals and this makes me so ANGRY. I don't MIND the breeding of dogs, but not at the expense of the dog's health. This is just really sad and distressing to me...
spiderorchid 1 year ago
Why came people just stop breeding dogs for the way they look and start thinkinhg about the dogs welfare and the impact its having on the dogs and the pain that is putting them its not nessarey.
tillyandscamp 1 year ago
I am shocked! This is outrageous! If I am ever going to have a dog it will be a crossbreed, hopefully with crossbred parents and grandparents. It will not be a pureblood! Incest is not natural in any biological form!
TeabagTore 1 year ago
people who buy affected puppies should sue the breeders they bought them from. ESPECIALLY if the stud dog or mother dog is known to have an inherited disease!
h6hfelie 2 years ago 5
wow, that cavalier breeder is an ignorant bitch. of course the dog is affected!
sacksmacker 2 years ago 6
Those Caviler King Charles spaniels look like adorable dogs. If they ever get their health straightened out I would like to have one!
doobiesmoke15 2 years ago 3
Everybody with some common sense and a bit of education know's that close relatitive breeding(like brother and sister) is very bad for genetics. The people who actually think that this is good for dogs and other animals are simply stupid.
Further the documentary is an eye-opener, since I never knew before today that there are these major health issues with a lot of dogs. If I would ever get a dog at least I will make sure its a healty one.
Thank you for those who made this documentary.
AngelinaMartina 2 years ago 2
at 4:20 was so trouching to me how poeple love dogs
Tosca3MozartMob 2 years ago
good documentary. anybody with a reasonable knowledge in genetics know that a limited gene pool within a breeding population causes a lot of problems, seen and unseen. we've been crossing dog breeds for our working service K9s, and they're excellent animals!
manalok9 2 years ago 2
guys...no common why are we labelling the dogs as fucking rubbish??? its not their fault...its human's...the fucking breeders'...
priesha 2 years ago
In my opinion, the dogs of 100 years ago are what the dog is meant to look like. Not the dogs of today, those dogs are REAL dogs not the trash of today.
AngelEmfrbl 2 years ago 52
@AngelEmfrbl i'm sure you must know that 100 years before that, the dogs looked much different than even that... there will always be change continuing definition in every breed...
pineappletea77 1 year ago
@AngelEmfrbl some breeds have not changed at all and some are horribly off.
wilerman 1 year ago
@AngelEmfrbl I agree! These's breeders dont care because they weren't affected, but if they lost their best friend, they'd feel differently! I'm glad this lady is takin action. I've got friends that have lost expensive pets to horrible genetic diseases. This is why I dont want a show quality purebreed I get a pet quality and pet quality purebreeds are still beautiful but healthier!! So are working quality dogs!
nikigurl08 1 year ago
@AngelEmfrbl Sounds horrible towards the dogs. It's not dog's fault, is it? :/
kojifakinshit 1 year ago
@ashgrace: maybe you´re a bit too emotional and not scientific. I am a vet in europe and know about it. Maybe you could argue in a more objective and scientific way but saying "fucking rubbish" ;-)
AgentTina 2 years ago
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Most ridiculous show on the planet.
What a one sided bunch of crap.
I am a vet nurse in australia.
Absolute fucking rubbish, this shows one side of issues, not the other.
ashgrace90 2 years ago
i dont beleive you
mrleeppa 2 years ago
"she's very much disliked"... what..? for having her own opinion?
28Stephhhx 2 years ago 8
I love to see my dog win in agility, I can't describe the joy I feel. To know that people breed their dogs in such a way that the animal suffers just so that they can feel this same joy, it upsets me and makes me furious. Something I will never be able to comprehend. For me its simple, my joy comes hand in hand with the well-being of my animal, my friend.
2012vet 2 years ago 3
I am in shock over this documentary.
What these breeders are doing is slowly torturing these dogs, and since when is torture legal?
It makes me SICK!
jesekah666 2 years ago 7
Thanks 55555555555535
Pootnam 2 years ago
its not about a pretty look if a toy dog is suppose to be 13 inch tall you don't make it any larger or it would not be to breed standard
140 years ago all the different pedigree dogs were on top form and so the breed standard was made but yet again puppy farmers and people not watching there breeding lines made dogs into what they are today take a look at the German shep an
55555555535 2 years ago
the Pyrenean the sheps legs have gone stupid and the Pyrenean is now the size of a large lab!
The breed standard was there for a reason but people like you obviously did not care so when your grandchildren ask you why does that dog look like its in pain when it walks you can tell them it was because people like you ignored the breed standard when it was made
55555555535 2 years ago
The breeders who think that this isn't a major problem in 'Pedigree' dogs should be shot in the face, chopped up into little pieces and fed to their beloved pets. Let nature take it's course and allow the dogs to breed with whom they see fit. Maybe in another 100 years, all the damage done from the past 100 years can be resolved.
jfallon92 2 years ago 6
People should not comment on things which they have no experiance on, showng dogs is not a beauty show, when you love your dog and you see it in the ring and it wins it class is the best thing ever, when a dog wins it class it means it is the closest dog to breed standard which was decided when the kennel club came to life in1873, i think that all breeders should test dogs before breeding from them as this will limit the ammount of problems and inherited diseases.
55555555535 2 years ago
"closest dog to breed standard "? what the fuck does that mean? someone decided a certain look was pretty 140 years ago so now it's untouchable?
DazBraithwaite 2 years ago 14
Dear Virginia Barwelll,
Are you void of rational thought? Everything points to yes. You should be embarrassed by what you say in this documentary. I hope you believe in forgiveness 'cause you'll need some.
daveinkorea07 2 years ago
Many breeds of dogs have had problems over the years (as do humans and thousands of other domesticated breeds of animals and wild animals). However good breeders have worked hand in hand with the Kennel Club, and Vets and scientist to rid or reduce the incidents of many of these breeds i.e. GPRA in Irish setters or hip Dysplasia in most breeds (thousands of dogs go through the KC?BVA schemes each year)breeders/owners and the KC donate huge sums of money every year for research
lehlam 2 years ago
Breeder much?!!??!!
Sadistic.................
2fakezippos 2 years ago 2
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for conditions who in turn benefit human kind (the DNA structure of dogs is very similar to mans)NONE of this was shown in the programme. Yes this Programme did set out to blame the ills of dogs on the KC (if you did not hear or see this I suggest you watch it again.....of have your eyes and hearing tested!!), remember its not the KC that actually breeds any dogs, but they are the ones who have already set in place many restrictions on breeding for animal welfare and
lehlam 2 years ago
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improvement (but do you actually know any of these....by your comments I doubt so). The makers of PDE LIED in the letters they sent to many of the organisations and individuals who had originally agreed to take part in the programme, the vast majority of the material they filmed was never used as it did not suit THEIR set agenda (the President of the BVA interview reduced to a few seconds from almost 1 hour as he did not say what THEY wanted to hear).
lehlam 2 years ago
The programme is very biased and has been subject to a long enquiry by Ofcom based on its unfairness. However Mxgn102 due to your lack of basic knowledge on this subject and abusive manner, you seem to be the gullibility in believing all the producers of PDE have said, your comment do not surprise me. Yes I have owned, bred, shown and judges dogs for nearly 40 years
lehlam 2 years ago
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as have three generations of my family, we have used all the health tests available to us, lived and loved the pets that we have owned who also just happened to be very successful in the show ring too, the average age of our dogs has been 15 years with some living up to 18, and have imported dogs from around the world to ensure our strain maintains a wide genetic background.....but of course you seem only to be able to judge people like myself based only on this greatly flawed programme.
lehlam 2 years ago
the makers of this very bias and unbalanced program have tried to lay the ills of ALL dogs at the door of the show ring, but they now admit the number of dogs they say are in the UK is in fact more than twice the amount than have any association /registration with the kennel club, so this mean the kennel club have not and could not of had any impact on half of the dogs, the kennel club figures also show that on average
lehlam 2 years ago
Are you kidding me lehlam. It is sad you have seen the documentary this way , , , the makers tried to do no such thing as lay the ills of ALL dogs at the door of the show ring. It was obvious to anyone with half a brain that they were highlighting a single issue that is one of many (puppyfarms being an obvious other). Defensiveness perhaps on your part?
shirley6677 2 years ago 2
Shirley6677 just watch the prog again you will see (and the makers have confirmed this) they are seating out to attack the KC as they make NO mention of puppy farmers AT ALL but blame it all on show dogs, if you think differnt tell me where they mention puppy farmers then??
lehlam 2 years ago
you all have to admit we are having more and more problem with dogs these days be it aggression, structural problems etc. surely the KC must take some more responsibility than it has, like the doc said 2rds of all dogs in the UK are pedigree.
maxg102 2 years ago
with many of their figure &so called facts, its the sames at the RSPCA who claimed to have overwhelming evidence but have not /can not publish anyto back up their chief vets claim that hundreds of thousand of pedigrees dogs are ill .....but then again he calls all pedigree dogs mutants
lehlam 2 years ago
less than 50% of all pedigree dogs are reg.d with the KC & neither are their parents! but the makers the program although now publicly acknowledge this FACT they decided to NOT to say this inPDE as they wanted to put all the blame at the door of the KC, they should of looked at this in balanced way THEY CHOOSE NOT TOO, they infact have greatly mislead
lehlam 2 years ago
no they dont mislead you dolt, they are not trying to blame the KC they are trying to point out that dog breads these days have LOTS AND LOTS of heath problems because of they way they are bread, now i am guessing that you dont like this news which means that A: you are a dog breeder or B: you know someone who is. AGAIN YOU ARE A IDIOT FOR CHOOSING TO IGNORE THE REAL MESSAGE OF THIS DOCUMENTARY
maxg102 2 years ago 4
only 1% of any breed goes into the show ring and indeed in many breeds (especially the most popular/common breeds) the vast majority are not show breeders who produce puppies and they would take very little notice of what dogs are winning (and therefore would be queuing up to use them) just what the breed standard would require them to look like(and any interpretation/assessment of that standard made by judge in the ring) and
lehlam 2 years ago
more importantly very little concern for health testing, so looking at this if less than half of one percent of all of the dogs in a breed are ever shown just how did the producers come up with the notion that they have had such an impact on the other 99.5% of dogs in a breed, is just does not add up , but then again the producers are not interested in facts.........just looking to sell a story
lehlam 2 years ago
This is horrible. Noone of these people really loves dogs. It is just greed and vanity. Dogs should be just dogs and all these contests are b..t for totally stupid people. If animals could prosecute us most of us would be send to the fire squad.
Katsimpardi 2 years ago 2
breeding for looks is the epitome of stupidity in dogs....breed em for a JOB anmd only thoise that can do the job getr bred and the issues will pretty much go away. The inbreeding argument is a bit wrong also. Look at fast lane bulldogs. Most are VERY tightly bred but bred for a purpose ( whether you agree with the purpose or not) and you do not see this crap.
OHIOSTEVE65 2 years ago
Stupd ass brits are fucking all up these old fuckers make me sick how can they say when a dig is healthy when is clearly visible is not no wonder the Americans got their independence from such imbecils too bad they didn't blow the hell out of the UK with the stupid queen and shit they are doing to dogs what hittler wouldve done to the human race
Opupekito 2 years ago
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I'd just like to point out to anyone watching this... one thing they conveniently forget to mention is that syringomyelia is NOT HEREDITARY, therefore two dogs who have been tested clear from it can produce a puppy that is a sufferer. I know one of the breeders on this that spoke to the camera, and what she said was edited and censored, making it biased towards the programme. A lot of the 'facts' this programme puts across are actually untrue, the vast majority of the CKCS are healthy and loved.
googoogilly 2 years ago
Googoogilly, two dogs tested clear can be carriers, as in many HERITABLE conditions. Sarah Blott considers CM/SM to be HIGHLY HERITABLE. "Early estimates of the heritability of SM suggest it is around 0.7-0.8 or that 70-80% of the variation between individuals is genetic in origin and about 20-30% is environmental."
shirley6677 2 years ago 2
As 50% of Cavaliers have a heart murmur by 5 years of age, how can you consider the "vast majority" healthy? What is your criteria?
shirley6677 2 years ago 3
shut up, monster
Suikinalol 2 years ago
Fuck u just that fuck u u think this show is lying? huh? this progamme says the truth y do u think its called Pedigree Dogs Exposed the thing u read were coverups that's y its called EXPOSED RETARD!
Jasterune 2 years ago
This was a really fantastic program. I am glad I am not alone in thinking the pure bred dog industry is an abomination.
fishrule1942 2 years ago 45
@fishrule1942 pure breds, r not bad, not all bad, if we could have more seriousness in health checks and be VERY CAREFUL, and not be a jerk, pure breds can be very healthy, too bad we don't.
brocolims 1 year ago
The crux of the problem with breeding is that it requires an understanding of biology and genetics if it is to be done responsibly, yet a lot of these people clearly have no idea what they're doing.
People considering buying a dog breed should research it, and make sure the dog is not affected by an inherited disease, and never bred from if it is a carrier.
manzikert123 2 years ago 4
This is why I think there needs to be some form of licensing required for all animal breeding with strict health requirements.
Manceinion 2 years ago 2
It just makes me sad to see what people are doing to these wonderful animals.
Why not breed mental and functional animals!?
Stupid show people!
I'm glad we (in sweden) have done something right in this issue, even tho it's not enough
sigourney7 2 years ago 4
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´m a Vet, hearing these people denying proved genetic failures calling them "just rubish" and allowing in-breeding is just pathetic.
That´s why I´m a fan of mongrel dogs, I have 8.
agilitylapunta 2 years ago
I´m a Vet, hearing these people denying proved genetic failures calling them "just rubish" and allowing in-breeding is just pathetic.
That´s why I´m a fan of mongrel dogs, I have 8.
agilitylapunta 2 years ago 5
Yes. That is right. ANY vet that thinks otherwise should have his/her license revoked.
That is what people should be taught, to ADOPT healthy animals as they would children. A healthy dog is a happy dog imo.
Danielsgirl2009 2 years ago 5
this is disgusting! How can people be so cruel and toughtless?
105km 2 years ago
man dog breeders sure are dumb
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DopesNextAccount 2 years ago
3:25 what a CUNT. Her diseased dog fathered 26 littlers since he was diagnosed? She`s an animal abuser, imagine all the poor dogs that are going to live with one of the most painful diseases in the world. I bet she LOVES the money. That f***ing scamming bitch BELONGS IN PRISON. Die in a fire.
DopesNextAccount 2 years ago 8
I AGREE COMPLETELY! A CLASSIC UGLY INBRED PEROXIDE DYED BIMBO WITH NOTHING BUT AIR BETWEEN HER FUCKING EARS! SOMEONE NEEDS TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE THAT STUPID BITCH SUFFER AS MUCH AS HER DOG AND HIS PUPPIES WILL! MAYBE THEN THE FUCKING DRAG QUEEN LOOK ALIKE WILL THINK AGAIN! CONGENITAL MORON!!!
Good comment DopesNextAccount, I couldn't have said it better myself!!!
XxXSpittyKittyCatXxX 2 years ago 4
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ChineseJewbot 2 years ago
Damn, my comment's spammed out b/c of the double-post. YT sucks.
ChineseJewbot 2 years ago
T_T Seems like a lot of dog breeds are in danger of being extinct..
NaruhinaXSasusaku 2 years ago
A "funny" thing is that the "rules" about how they should look hasn't changed that much in 100 years, it's how peolpe read them.
If the judgers in the shows were forced to have some sort of healt-education (like the ones you take in collegue for becoming a vet/vetassistant) they'd never read the rules like they do
Carambelle 2 years ago 3
Exactly. I have on several occations wished we had robots as show-judges, instead of these people that interpret breed standards in any way they like.
(Just look how the Mastino, the GSD, Chow Chow or basically any extreme breed looked fifty years ago - a tremendous difference)
Either that - or away with the competition in the show ring - all it should be is judging the individual dog - and that's that. (Or it goes like it is now - people want more and more and more of the physical traits)
Skywalker91 2 years ago
damn the kennel club.
and guy on helium at 5:57
SgtAndrewM 2 years ago
those kennel club people are so selfish and so deluded...
littlelizza 2 years ago 4
The Kennel Club's argument to all of this is the fear that the breeders will breed outside of the kennel club, but if they would just think about it... That wouldn't make much since for the breeders. If they want to breed for the registry then they would have to breed within the Kennel Club. They would have to obey the rules!
MRogi 2 years ago 2
I completely agree with the description of how stoic these poor animals are. What loyal determination to love a person who produces such a deformed and painful body for such pointless and selfish purposes. You love your dog like you would a child- but you would do all of this to a child?
calc1987 2 years ago
Very informative show... thanks for uploading...
EsotericDesi 2 years ago
Completely insane. Absolutely a crime.
jaxhead 2 years ago
This is insane. I find the cruelty in all this very depressing. More upsetting still is the flagrant unwillingness to even consider looking at the facts or listening to an opposing view on the part of the breeders and the KC. There's just something about ignorant and irrational people that really makes me angry.
Thanks for sharing this video. And hats off to the RSPCA and Pedigree for pulling their support of Crufts.
ap191919 2 years ago 3
Totally irresponsible breeding, knowing that the dog is passing on its serious genetic defect to future dogs is totally down to one thing..MONEY.. I am glad this has been exposed.. the public have the power to change this and the kennel club the responsibility to enforce it.
jgs36 2 years ago
I agree. If I´d be breeding a certain breed, and heard there might be an illness among the breed I havent heard of yet and that it can easily go unnoticed if not checked at the vet, I´d get really nervous and would immediately want to find more about it! Because I certainly woulnt want to be responsible of causing the death of other dogs just because I havent checked my dogs health at a vet :(
Jefrma 2 years ago
The breeders are the real freak show in this- Hitler must be their icon.
bizzare. When asked why these 'furnishings' (excessive loose skin) were desirable the judge responded that it's 'the way the breed is'. Typical example of the idiocy demonstrated by so many breeders/ kennel club officials here. Never questioning why such clearly pointless and often dangerous mutations are promoted. The desire to breed an animal for cosmetic characteristics above health and longevity is disgusting.
moxmox32 2 years ago 4
World of dogs are changeing just beacuse of the kennel clubs "Rules" Dog might just die out one day....
huskymaster1 2 years ago 2
those breeders and judges are criminals
ikkidj 2 years ago
they lied so much :( cavalier breeders
WALLE9000 2 years ago 2
some people shouldnt be allowed to own dogs let alone breed them
eviluncle76 2 years ago 2
those cavalier breeder club owners are fucking retarded.
tomharris22 2 years ago 3
perhaps they are inbred?
phroph 2 years ago
im happy i could help :)
WALLE9000 2 years ago
WALLE9000 thank you very much for posting this. i watched it all in tears. i'm doing an college assignment on pedigree dogs and i was researching inbreeding. this has helped me and agian i thank you
Ellielikesdragons 2 years ago 2