Neurotikart II - First Ride

[warwickbill]

how much would one off them cost to buy?? do u sell??

[ibrmmh]

Wow that's awesome

[CheapNoize]

Do you have to charge each battery sepparetly? And how does a full recharge take? How did you build the throttle system?

[callofnerds1]

first time driving

[desertbowhunter]

hey i am upgrading my go kart and i need a break caliper. where did you get yours

[MrTeckman01]

@wires99 o ok it was just a thought now i feel retarded lol

[soundo110]

what speed controller did you use and where can i get one

[g60badass]

great kart but your driving sucks

[wires99]

@g60badass : Good thing I don't drive in your neighborhood, then. :D

[g60badass]

@wires99 if you lived near me id be knockin on your door every day sayin can i have a go on your kart pleeeeeese lol:)

[Boogietized]

@wires99 I love your reply!

[deletedalien]

@g60badass The hell are you talking about????

That some serious drifting right there!!! (no sarcasm) i should know, im a drifter (look at my vids) anywho

@wires99: DUDE your kart is FLIPPIN' AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!! i dont want one I NEED ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!

We need to get in contact so i can start crafting something like this seriously, Anywho later take care.

[deletedalien]

@g60badass The hell are you talking about???

This guy can drift the daylight out of this thing, and let me tell ya drifting a kart on tarmac is NOT easy

@wires99: Dude i dont want your kart I NEED IT!!!!! its sooo flippin' sweet!!!!!

we need to talk i want to make one of these!!!

[deletedalien]

hi

[wrenched25]

HEY wires i dont get the steering mecanism and need some help wat did u use

[rchan0]

the experience of acceleration seems incredible - just instant power with no lag. very impressive

[rbodell]

Children drool with envy, dogs run in fear, your neighbors are loading their shotguns and your shrink won't return your phone calls, but damn that looks like fun.

[berniecas94]

hi wiress99,

i have a motor with 500w but i don't know if it can move my kart.

Can it move a kart like your??

[berniecas94]

Very very nice!!

Congratulations.

[hughheckler]

screw buying a corvette, way cooler!

[gaspowerrules]

u should race the 2 neurotikarts and make a vid

[fatturdburger]

Nice if you crash acid all over you, hahah

[richfilmswales]

how long to charge it from flat??

[wires99]

@richfilmswales It takes about 5 hours using a bunch of 10 amp chargers

[knutfheifer]

I bet you are very poplular with the neighbours with all that tyre screeching,hmmm

[FofizzleMeNizzle]

where did you get the mini motor?

[FofizzleMeNizzle]

Hi, I have designed something similar to this but it will need 2 motors lots of battries because it is like a tank with tank tracks and instead of normal steering it will be able to have 1 motor forward 1 back but it will be very expensive and hard to build because I'm 12 years old.

[maco10810]

Hi Wires

Nice work, I would like to know how the car batteries are holding up, I would love to be able to use them they a lot cheaper than the batteries used on most EV's. Car batteries remain fully charged in a car so they have thinner plates than the ones designed to be run flat. The theory is the thin plates warp and short out.

I also built an EV, no controller just a soft start button running through a resistor to take up slack before hitting the main power cheers.

watch?v=HjsYANIIDmc

[wires99]

The Optimas hold up great, but those "Economy" car batteries not so much. They've long since been returned for recycling. You just can't discharge a car battery many times and have it live through it. After about 10 charge-discharge cycles, the car batteries were down to about 20% capacity. The Optimas get basically full capacity for 100 cycles or so. Too bad Costco doesn't carry them any more. I may be looking for a new type of battery...

[maco10810]

Cool thanks for the info, have a look at Thundersky Batteries, I believe they the best bang for your buck.

If you increase your gear ratio your motor will run cooler and you will have so much acceleration you could drop the voltage, but as I am guessing you would keep the extra acceleration : )

[sooperdude1992]

@maco10810 what are ev's?

[maco10810]

@sooperdude1992 Eves are electric vehicles, but it goes a lot further than that, an EV that is a scooter can do 60 km a day and only costs about $2 to recharge overnight to do another 60 km tomorrow morning on your way to work, what does this mean, well it means that you have to start studying global warming and saving money for yourself at the same time, the planet is over heating do some thing or your children will not see 25 years old

[maverick231]

where did u get the batteries , how much did they cost?

[ImDiscombobulated]

Those are Optima yellow tops at approx $220 a pc.

[universalmoor]

i love man toys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[eb1zzle]

Might wanna consider wearing a helmet with this one. lol

[blaineanator]

holy shit'!!!

contact zoooom!!!!!!

[slide4squad]

i honestly could have seen a bad flip when he whipped it around the second time.. hahah

[mshekleton]

the battery weight probably keeps the center of gravity low and the tires planted pretty well

[rayr84a63y42]

could have seen the same thing

[camomann8]

How are the batteries charged? Did you have to buy a charger, and wire it up specially, or did you create a wire and plug the whole array into the wall?

[Alabamomebic4]

Never mind, they're deep cycle; I didn't catch that before.

[Alabamomebic4]

what kind of batteries are those, and where could you get some?

[slide4squad]

advanced auto

[Alabamomebic4]

Are those batteries wired up in series, parallel, or a series-parallel circuit?

[wires99]

It's 6 12-volt deep-cycle batteries in series, giving 72 volts. This is probably the simplest way to do it.

[jdmikeg4]

that looks like Virginia Beach, Va. except the mailboxes are all the same.

[maco10810]

A great video, I love it, my kinda driving style too, I just did a bicycle, front wheel drive EV with a huge sprocket, Ev's are grear fun - thanks for posting

[chriscoupe]

you sad sad sad sad PEOPLE!!

[bobmaniac23]

How do you find the right type of motor? And

how did you find this one?

[wires99]

The motors I use are designed for golf carts and other small electric vehicles. Sometimes you can find them on ebay, and there are also a number of electric vehicle part suppliers on the web.

[xsnowboarder93x]

im surprized that you wip that thing around and arnt afaid of it tipping?

[wires99]

Tipping is pretty much impossible unless I collide with something sideways. I try not to do that. :D

It's a very heavy vehicle, with a fairly wide stance and a very low center of gravity. It's a slider, not a tipper.

[bonds911]

hey your channel has lots of views and its original dude why dont you try being a youtube partner and get paid for every view in every video

[blossom935]

can u please tell me where to find cheap electric go karts from?

[wires99]

I hate to say it, but NK2 cost a bunch - for what it cost to build, you could buy an ok used regular car. There probably isn't a "good price" for something like this.

As for Neurotikart III, it was built as a rolling chassis and sold. It's a slightly improved version of NK2.

I'm currently researching a yet-to-be-unnamed electric vehicle. The goal is more power, less weight.

[gMixr]

Three questions: How much did it cost you at the most for the Neurotikart II? Would you be willing to create another Neurotikart II for a good price? Also, how are the looks on a Neurotikart III?

Thanks alot, and this Go-Kart is personally my favorite Go-Kart I have ever seen!

[1Addicted]

Nice helmet BOZO.

[velvetjones810]

What type of throttle was used on the NK2?

[wires99]

Both of my Neurotikarts use a standard 5k ohm "pot box" like what's used in a golf cart. This is a standard for most motor controllers of this type. There are also hall-effect throttles, but I use the old pot. The only disadvantage of a pot is that it wears over time, which makes the pot "noisey". The effect is slight jumpy-ness of the throttle at low speeds as the pot ages. I'm considering an upgrade to hall, which shouldn't do this.

[andrewwassef]

i have recently purchased a golf cart motor and i was wondering how you spun the aluminum plate to match up with the motor

[wires99]

Golf cart motors are normally meant to bolt up to the cart differential, which provides the cover and bearings to support the output side of the motor shaft. I have a small lathe, and I turned the faceplate, a shaft, and a carrier for a pair of bearing cartridges to support that end of the motor. The NK2 has a more normal output shaft and faceplate configuration (I purchased a new motor). Unless you have a machine shop, it's not worth using a golf cart motor and having parts made.

[DicknGina]

Hi I was researching golf cart power for our electric only pontoon boat. You certainly were successful! Any recommendations on a start for A GOLF CART SYSTEM? I would like a min of 5 hp prob 5-10 would be sweet. Great video, please wear a helmet

[wires99]

Look around the web for D&D motors and/or Alltrax controllers. That's what I use, and a search will take you to vendors of golf cart drive components. The kart as seen here tops out around 28 HP.

[andrewwassef]

2 questions did u put an alternator on it and are u using optima battries

[wires99]

No alternator - it wouldn't make sense. It would consume more power than it could produce. Yeah, those are Optimas. They're not cheap, but they produce.

[robayd]

I've seen many a electric go cart vids here on youtube but your carts by far produce more torque than anything I've ever seen. That goes for gas powered carts too! You're a visionary. Great work.

[wires99]

I put a trailer hitch on it, and I use my util trailer as a "hay ride". With the trailer, a load (12+) of kids, and me, that's 1/2 ton. Pulled that around for about two hours yesterday. Fabulous torque, lots of fun for all.

[itachi7875]

like mario cart

[CZECHOSLOVAKIA11]

do you think about selling these?

[bowrooco]

Ever consider converting a small car like a MG midget or triump spitfire?

[wires99]

Working on it.

[robayd]

How's coming along?

[wires99]

3 battery chargers

[arrwupstt1252]

GASOLINE

GASOLINE

but they still are pretty cool lol good stuff man keep em coming

[selfactingmachine]

lets see you find some oil add a bunch of energy refining and transporting it put it in a machine that pumps it into your vehicle filter it and pump it to the front of the vehicle where it is put throuh a few more machines to be metered into another machine that eventualy generates 10% of the fuels power into rotation that is diverted through another machine to overcome tiny low speed tourque we are not to the rear wheels yet but this sounds like a childs game i think they called it mousetrap!

[snowmanmelter]

electric in someways is better, IE: faster acceloration

[gotme753]

one word... sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee­eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

[backer02]

yeah how much does it cost to build approximately?

[wires99]

About $4000. It's nearly $1200 for the batteries alone.

[sayalainen]

awesome-o =D how much did it cost?

[smokinnjoe]

VERY COOL!!!!

[sesarathor]

How does this thing do at the track?

[xvxrockerxvx]

do your neighbors get pissed off at you?

[wires99]

Not really. All but one of them have either driven it or ridden on it. (Kids included.) I keep it away from pedestrians, and I try not to annoy people by interfering with traffic or making noise at the wrong times. Everything in moderation, ya know?

[HeezaNiglet]

Have you considered building one for off-road use...say with bigger tires?

[wires99]

Yeah, but suspension brings a whole new level of complexity. I've considered it.

[wires99]

Batteries last about an hour, depending on driving. Total cost was ridiculous.

[pmsfo]

Very impressive karts, but I can't figure out why'd you drive 55 mph without a helmet and other safety equipment. All it takes is one of your powerslides going wrong and you would be flipping hard. Not to mention the idiot who backs out of his driveway without looking...

[kitbots]

exactly what i was going to say

[natey1112]

wow

[mspacone]

I want one!

[kingtuur]

Hi Mr, Sorry how can i have a motor like this :).. how much it cost? where can i find it.i dont know to talk english.. i wanted a Kar with a gas Engine.. but i prefer this one so, i dont know

[wires99]

The motor in this video is around US$900, but I would recommend a different motor. The motor shown here burned out. It was replaced with a D&D ES-33 motor for about US$600. I got it from Electric Vehicles USA.

[kingtuur]

ohh Thank you very much.. yesterday i bougth a Motor that works with Gasoline, i think is very good it's new in his box... i have the Chassis too, but i think Neorotikarts are soo fast.. thank you Mr..

[biertier99]

how can u get this motors?

[slalomflex28]

Hi. Are you still working on the karts mark. Mine is long finished but is a bit rusty so we are going to restorate it in the summer, powder coat etc. One thing I did but was a set of proper kart rims and tyres. Would reccomend them. We have also moved on a bit. Just bought a senior rotax on an arrow ax8 chassis. John

[callmewilson]

should race each other, 1 in the 48 volt kart and the other in the 75 volt one, head start though for N1 kart.

[roadkillontheweb]

The electric powered go karts that I play with from the 1950s and 60s would only go 5MPH and did not have speed conrol. it was go and stop only. but they had fiberglass bodies to look like Tbirds and Mustangs so they were made for style. check my vids and favorites

[poobajones]

wow i want one!

[GreezeMunky]

How much did you spend on all the parts.

[wires99]

Thousands. My wife was pretty annoyed.

[basketballtuohy]

whats the wattidge in the motor in the first cart in my electric dirt bike i have a 500 watt motor

[wires99]

I'm putting a peak of just under 22KW into the motor.

[EETechs]

Buflonob, if the controller did not limit current when the motor is initially at standstill, then the motor would literally shoot out plasma fire balls because the current would be tremendous. Most likely this hot plasma would destroy the commutator bars and brushes in the motor as well as the contactor's contacts.

[Buflonob]

How long does the charge last? whats the 0-60mph? and have you tried it with larger wheels for better traction?

[wires99]

I can run the kart pretty hard for about an hour before I start to feel performance dropping off. It only goes about 55mph, but I'd guess it will reach top speed in about 6-7 seconds. What I need may not be larger tires, per se, but wider tires that can handle more weight. The rears flex like crazy when doing donuts. But skidding around is half the fun, and most of the noise.

[Buflonob]

Yeah I meant to say larger footprint so larger or wider would do.

I suppose more batteries or higher current ones are the next move then?Looks like great fun,hope your neighbours get a go every so often, lol.

Pity about the controller limiting the startup, but I suppose you wouldn't wanna just spin the wheels,lol,ok then maybe that would be fun too.

Like the way you put the pedals on from the previous model and or course the brakes!

[Buflonob]

Well keep us updated on the next stages, I have fun watching the vids of your cul-de-sac getting donut marks made!

[cheeseypie1]

Whoa, that kart is so awesome, I want to build one like that!

[heild]

how much would you sell one of those for

[wires99]

$1200 for Neurotikart 1, $4000 for the second.

[355dudeman]

I rmember the last one had trouble sliding

[electrodemike]

Briliant Work

Awesome

I wish i had one

[Idomyownstunts69]

ok,now weres mine?

Nice Vid man A+

[dangeroustoys56]

That thing kicks @ss! Who says electric vehicles are slow? Ive thot about using a large electric motor on a lawntractor to see how it would hold up. My current project is a modifed murray which runs in the 40mph range ( with a gas engine) - im aiming for 60 tho. Keep tweeking it!

[CrunchieDan]

HOW MUCH FOR THE GAS PIPE!? On your first KART!?! How much approx for one of these?

[wires99]

I paid around $35 for the pipe, but with other stuff, a rolling chassis comes in at around $1000.

[CrunchieDan]

$35 bucks for ALL the pipe? Not bad.

[ShoviT]

I got so inspired so I started building my own one. But mine will have a petrol engine instead cause it was too hard to find cheap electric engines :(

[thedomonator]

I've seen neurotikart I and II. How far can they each go?

[wires99]

Neurotikart I can do about 35 - but that's estimated. Neurotikart II was fitted with a speed computer, and it's been clocked at over 50 mph. If I trade off acceleration, it could go faster, but honestly, for such a home-made vehicle, 50 is about as fast as I dare to go.

[mrexon]

MOTOR!!!!!!!

ENGINES are all gas!!!!

motors are electric

[stevenmiles]

OK, I'm finished rebuilding player pianos for awhile. Now four of us old dudes and one repair shop are convinced we need to build us an electric kart. Inspired by your neurotic neurotikart. Parts list has been issued, and step one has a dead line :)

[zakispanciefants]

hey, thanks for videos, your such an inspiration, and i've always remembered this line from the first nuerotikart video

"brakes? no...no brakes!!" ahah.

im making my own two seater go kart for "drifting" (or as much as you can with a kart) and im going to start this winter, but the problem is its about 1400, and im 15, 16 before winter, so it might take me all winter to make it due to money situations, but ill post some videos once its running!

thanks for the inspiration

:]

[Kartmonkey]

that sucker's sweeeeet! i bet if it was belt driven, it would be DEAD siglent. nice. its pretty heavy but it hauls its weight around welllllll

[EETechs]

Now all you need to do is gear it 28 motor/60 axle and that beast will do at least 60 MPH. :)

[jchevy33]

dang, are u usuing optima batts for it? thats awesome if u r

[wires99]

Yup.

[ebartman96]

that friggen sweat

i wish i had one

[BenjaminIV]

Thanks for these videos. They're very elaborate, but I get how the kart is made now.

[jklittlemf]

hahah i loved it i got excitement n joy in me watching this vid awsome!

[madjimms]

ever planning on going brushless?

[wires99]

I'm looking into 3 phase AC induction motors, but that's a big step. The controllers I've seen are MUCH more expensive, and I'd probably be forced to make one. Big job.

[lisadavedp3]

will there be a third

[wires99]

Don't know yet.  I'm between projects.

[killerp21]

Your neighbors must hate you hahaha.

Great work on engineering your electric gokarts. Way cool!

[wires99]

The trick is that I get all my neighbors to drive it, too. There's only one person in my immediate area that hasn't either ridden on or driven one of the karts. She's holding out for power steering.

[kevinnading]

wow Mark congrats on your achievment! very awesome!

[Roboburrr]

youtube is slow

[1weeman]

Do you need a controller or can you just leave it out?

[wires99]

I wouldn't go without a controller, myself. In racing apps, some people will install a bypass relay, though. When you want an extra punch of maximum power, the relay kicks in and connects the motor(s) directly to the batteries. That can be dangerous, however, if you weld the contacts with the massive current - it's also nice to be able to stop when you want.

[coreymon77]

NICE!

[timbocar]

how much faster did it feel?  it looks better to! i liked the way you can drift that better and you smoked the weels.

[wires99]

It doesn't feel like it's got a tremendous amount of additional acceleration, but it's got a noticeably higher top speed, and the throttle response is faster. I nearly did a 360 in the video, and I was trying to figure out how yesterday so I could do it again. I think I need to tap the brake, then floor the accel.

[EETechs]

Very nice! Mark. Before you know it, you'll be building formula 1 electric cars. lol

[JimmyJohnsonInc]

Neurotikart II is awesome, that is so cool.

Call your chiropractor, I think you might have some whiplash. lol

[1weeman]

thats amazing your very skilled

[slalomflex28]

Mark. This is amazing. Hell, that perm throws some power. Keep me updated on any progress. Awsome.