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  • And people still believe in the moon landing? My mind is full of fuck!

  • Good vid!

  • How did that guy take a photo of his boots with a chest mounted camera?

  • exactly ! laughing when the dickhead falls over, like you say could of ruptured there silly space suits ! have you seen the footage when they are kicking decent sized rocks around ? its unbelievable ! not fazed by the fact the minutest little tear could kill them

    the mind boggles when I think about taking a " so called moon-buggy all that way to the moon just to do donuts and driving like a bloody idiot ! what a joke .. 

  • Just imagine; In the feather hammer drop trick. They both traveled faster to the ground then the assonaut; especially in the very last segment of this video above.

    And the assonauts are much heavier and sort of floated to the ground. moonmadnes

    Crimey

  • Indeed, in all NASA movies the astronauts never look like SCIENTISTS in an ALIEN and potentially DEADLY PLANET, far from earth. They are always romatic, happy, relaxed. They seem to have a lot of fun!! I bet if a human being were TRUELY walking on the Moon surface, with just a tiny litte LEM and a space suit as the only mean to survive, he would be TERRIFIED, and at every fall on the ground there would be nothing but TERROR and stress for the potentially deadly consequences, not laughs.

  • @1965christian Yes, you may have to say why anyone such as Columbus, Lewis and Clark or Edmund Hillary would ever try something so challenging. Would be TOO TERRIFYING. No wonder we people of this Earth today achieve nothing of any importance.

  • What abou the visor reflections, are you sure that sun at 1:28 for

    instance is the real one? I don´t think so!

  • Makes you wonder if the people who operated the wires are alive today.

  • FAVORITE 5*

  • 4) They never even left earth, and filmed the weightless sequences in the vomit comet...

  • They either 1) went to the moon as advertised 2) went but faked the pictures for better tv and shots 3) only went into earth orbit and the tv broadcasts and the landings were all faked

  • if people cant or wont see that they are on wires then let them dream on.

  • 400.000 thats everone from the tea lady to the bra factory that sewed the space suits and only a handfull knew the truth dont fall for that 400.000 bull.

  • @bigfist255 LOL because someone sewed the fucking space suits together doesn't mean they ever went outside of earths gravity

    LOL Funny how all APOLLO missions were STAGED during the presidency of TRICKY DICK. lol

  • I'm gonna put a shoebox with a hole in it on my lap and give YOU a puppet show.

  • Better provide a magnifying glass so I can see something...

  • @un4g1v3n1 FTW, nice call dude. lol!

  • Oh ya...I'll get right on that there. Maybe you should chase your pride down and ask for your intelligence back!

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  • You've got chocolate betwixt your common sense. You've obviously never worked for the federal government before. If your work is classified, you are not allowed to talk about it. Wth the overt threat of fines, and prison. And the covert threat of bodily harm.

    "bottom line is bub, when I type in Apollo 11 it's to see my country's proudest moment" I feel sorry for you that pride blinds you, makes you ignorant, and a traitor to the people of the country whose moments you are so proud of!

  • "remarkable footage of genuine moon physics "

    If you can watch this crap and call it genuine moon physics, then your pride has an ally called ignoramous. Apollo was the biggest publicity stunt, con job, propaganda tool this world has ever seen. And the longer the citizens of the US continue to buy this trash bag of badly done moon movies, the longer the PTB can continue to rape, rob, and rule the masses.

    Where the GOD lie failed in the Church, the SCIENCE lie succeeded in the LAB.

  • @un4g1v3n1 AMEN- I can't see how after watching films like this the apollo-nuts can even contemplate explaining it thru SCIENCE-lol

  • Check your tongue....I thnk your TASTE buds must be missing!

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  • You have to be a third-grader to believe in the Apollo Fairy Tale. Even 5 year olds figure out that Santa is a farce. Guess some people like yourself take a bit longer to open their eyes and see truth!

  • See " "moon landing hoax apollo 16-two stage hands are seen" and explain that if you think the moon landings were real. It's true that if they were on the moon that they would panic or show some concern when they fall because a ruptured pressured suit would mean death. they either laugh or seem unfazed.

    Also see " apollo the Hadley rill" for astronauts joking about the fakeness of the event.

  • Yeah, on the later launches the rover had a remotely operated camera to film the launch off of the moon. It was also necessary to film the astronauts when they would travel several kilometers from the LEM. That's also why the rover had the large dish on top of it.

    Its laughable really, with all the inarguable evidence from the Selene and the LRO these hoax arguments are seeming more and more ridiculous.

  • I have a degree in Physics from Georgia Tech and I can tell you this: The videos and pics that NASA says are from the moon are so obviously fake it is truly laughable.

  • Might want to go back to school then.

  • You might want to reflect on and take your own advice spyky!

  • I was going to make a more in depth response, until I saw your channel and decided not to even bother with people like you.

  • Ya, people like me who have spent spare time over ten years researching everything from the radiation to every other issue that proves Apollo to be a fraud are way too tough for someone like you to try and bullsh1t! I don't blame you for being afraid of voicing your ignorance here! Good decision. Your time is best used trying to bullshit those who are more ignorant than yourself. Although that may be a rather difficult quest!

  • Might want to research the radiation some more.

  • Might want to research the radiation some more. Don't get me wrong, I approach this issue scientifically. If some solid evidence arises I take it seriously. Also if there is enough solid evidence I am more than willing to believe the hoax. Its just most of this "solid evidence" is well, wrong.

  • Go to the NGDC and see the major solar flares listed during Apollo missions that SOLAR/SPACE physicists agree would have killed the apollonots. Then see the same physicists say how lucky they were that none occured during Apollo missions...Ooops....They lied! Just like NASA when they documented in the Apollo Report that there were NO major solar events. Lies any fool with the ability to click on a link, and find for themselves.

    watch?v=Bqv4q35QqUg

    Listen to the experts about space.

  • None of the solar flares in listed in the NGDC during that time are large enough to really stand out. After all solar flares happen all the time. Occasionally one will flare up and stand out. Also just because a solar flare is reported doesn't mean it hit us. Solar flares are also predictable basing off of the sun's solar cycle. And sunspot activity. The Apollo missions were planned to be in the safest time for solar activity. A few years earlier or later would have been bad.

  • Intensity of the sun is based on the Solar cycle. Predicting solar flares is impossible. The Apollo missions were supposedly executed during Solar Max. So big fail there spyky.

    You are soooo wrong. Look up the stuff, come back, eat crow, and I'll think about entertaining you, and your ignorance further.

    And the flares listed at the NGDC are even larger then ones from 72 that solar physicists insist would have killed the astronots. NASA lied, get used to the idea!

  • Its about as possible as predicting the weather on earth. Organizations all over the world warn satellites and astronauts if the likelihood of a solar flare is high. In fact people have been predicting, to some degree, the solar weather since the 1800s and proving their findings with changes in the Auroras. Also there was a Solar max in 1964 and 1976. They last at most about 3 years. There were no Apollo missions during either of those periods. Maybe its you who needs to "Look up the stuff"

  • A silly question perhaps.

    Who filmed the take off of the lunar module in this historic clip we see first?

  • That would be Mission Control. It was a remotely-controlled TV camera attached to the rover

  • Sure! A time delay and they nearly perfectly capture the lift-off.

    Absolutely f@cking brilliant mate.

    Or Unf@ckingbelievable, is more like it!!!

  • Yes there was a lag time in the signalling. Anyone know by how much?

  • IT's difficult to ascertain with the continual lies about every damn aspect of Apollo.

    It would be nice to see someone address this issue with some form of mathmatical certainty.

    I doubt it as they still continue to lie about simple basic facts like the inadequate shielding, and the truly intense, and deadly nature of space radiation in and beyond our magnetosphere!

  • It takes 1.5 seconds for signals to travel from the Earth to the moon. So if NASA put astronauts on the moon with all the math needed for that, and you don't think they could program a remote camera to compensate for a mere 1.5 second delay???

    Get over it, we went to the moon!

  • 1 time would be a bit hard to take in but 6 times just sounds like a bit much.

    There isn't even a nudie bar up there yet and usa was supposed to have been there 40 years ago!

  • Back then NASA had 5% of the US budget and a 400,000 strong workforce.

    Today NASA's budget is a mere 1/16th of the US budget and it's workforce is barely 20,000 strong.

    The Government decided not to continue funding the moon program. How do you expect NASA to fund a moon program on a minuscule fraction of the money and workforce it had for the Apollo Program.

  • Once we went a few times, American got used to and the novelty was over. Congress cut funding and the Apollo program was scrapped. The Apollo-Soyuz misson was the last Saturn V launch. NASA then went to work on the Shuttle Program. It almost did not get approved having received congressional approval by only 1 vote

  • I can't imagine why congress would want to keep the shuttle program from getting off the ground...especially seeing as most of them can see the Apollo fraud for themselves.

    Too bad your too ignorant to see it for yourself!

  • You rebuild the moon program using the very same 60's technology, and that means you are talking about dirt cheap technology, we could re-furbish the LM's we have on display. The budget would probably be affordable by most millionaires alive now, and certainly affordable by our Gubmint. I worked 6 times without a hitch before, so why not again, on the cheap this time!

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  • Really? Well, then why the hype about a return to the moon....I laugh hysterically at that notion btw....and then on to MARS....

    The mere fact that you believe men have walked on the irradiated moon, after travelling through more deadly radiation in a tin can, is completely ludicrous.

    Learn about the true space environment within and beyond our magnetosphere to understand how truly ignorant you are!

  • It took a few missions to successfully get it right. Only on the last mission, Apollo 17, were they able to follow the action on time. It was practiced extensively beforehand.

  • astronauts suits are still to this day quiet fragile,it's hard to believe they would take the risk of falling down hard on the lunar surface............

  • how can you put this under science and technology. cretin.

  • NASA FAKED IT

  • My god what imagination when you don't know nothing about science... like the Egyptian imam who still preaches today that the Earth is flat... Gosh your conspiracy theories are so entertaining... Good for ignorants.. Very funny. Thanks for posting... :)

  • Uhm, I wouldn't say its a conspiracy theory at all. The CIA/FBI/Government did a ridiculous amount disinformation, espionage, propaganda, spying during the cold war. Faking a moon landing to beat the Soviets too it would be far from outlandish from the things we know the government did - and still do.  Kinda like the imaginary weapons of WMDs in Iraq. You're the ignorant one, apparently you don't know about J. Edgar Hoover or history at all.

  • When the asstronot is being hoisted, notice the fabric on the top-front of the backpack being "snowconed" when the asstronot traverses the moon set. When the wire breaks, the asstronot falls to the ground. The first several feet of the wire is of light test fishing line...not quite strong enough to haul in a fairly large tuna. So if the wire is jerked too hard, it naturally breaks, but for the most part, it obviously, holds up fairly well.

  • NASA shills would have to believe that if wires were used, then how come they were not readily visible?

    Well, I know that I can reel in a 600 lb. tuna with the appropriate strength test line, so why would it be so hard to hoist an asstronot, using thin, clearview fishing line. Obviously, this line occaisionally breaks when they use a light test line, such as a 200 lb test line, when they should be using, at least, a 400 lb. test line. They should have used them in tandem. Maybe they did.

  • The characters from the "Thunderbirds" T.V. show moved more realistically then these pathetic jokers.

  • Moon obviously a scam, man has never been on another place besides earth.... If they did, why not do it again.... make one small trip and they can't even do it again after 50 some years of technology growth...

  • Well, they've been in LEO...But that about does it!

  • 2019 were going back dumbass

  • your right they cant, but they will 2019 on july 16th the 50th anniversary, go look up the ares rocket

  • Well, fifty years later, they claim they will finally be able to go to the moon. Wow, what an accomplishment...If they could do it in 69, I suppose it makes sense it would take fifty years later to try again. The space program set back fifty years, by ?????? I imagine radiation will set them back another fifty years, if they don't figure out the technology to block out the solar radiation and GCR's..As well as micrometeorites, and find a suitable way to dodge the meteors that hit the moon!

  • Yea i do agree you would think that they would go to the moon more often, but you have to think about the population. After the first few landings people started to loose interest in the whole moon landings.

    Plus you couldn't really do too much in 1969. Since solar cells were not really the best and they didn't have a way to recycle air. So what do you do after you have 850lb of rocks? Not a heck of a lot. So they decided to stick it closer to home and try to learn more about space itself.

  • And in response to your 2 other questions.

    There are products that block UV radiation. Such as sunscreens and hats. But those wont work for a spacecraft. So you need to use UV blocking paints or polymers.

    Well since this is just the moon and not mars Galactic Cosmic rays are not the worst thing since these are scrambled by the magnetic field and yes the moon has one too. If we were talking about faking the mars landings then yes that would apply.

  • Wrong! The MOON DOES NOT HAVE A MAGNETIC FIELD around it. Nor does it have an atmosphere. Try investigating, or educating yourself before making outlandish, and downright WRONG comments!

  • Your bullshit excuses are like NASA's...

    They hold no weight in a little thing called TRUTH!

  • and i didn't have an excuse even if what i said was fake it still wouldn't of been an excuse.

    I suggest that you re consider the choice of words you used, because nasa didn't have an excuse either.

    A simpler word would be lies. But since they didnt lie that would make it the truth so just rework the entire thing and get back to me.

  • pinochio marionette, nasa nutter liers, good vid.

  • Warning: If you plan on allowing this psychopath to comment on your videos

    keep in mind that he is a liar, and will make your private PM's, public

    if it suits his sick, twisted objectives. If you doubt this go to the Joe Rogan

    forum, search the archive for Svector, Radiation, and Apollo.

  • hilarious at 35 secs curly howard is green with envy .... the apollogists just cant see the forest for redwoods

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  • No show, no hoax, just science and a lot of courage.

    Like it or not, Americans walked on the moon in 1969.

  • Wow, your authoritative comment has convinced me...Thank you! I can go back to bed believing your Apollo Fairy Tale again. Wow, what a relief! And all this time I spent investigating this issue from boths sides. Nearly ten years of research cleared up by your statement of fact. Thank you so much again! Wow, why didn't I see it a long time ago. You are my new hero...BTW, how's your tolerance to radiation? You might want to sign up for the next deep space mission!

  • BTW svector...repeating science and courage over and over again is about the supidist shit I have ever heard out of you.  Why don't you try a new approach. One that doesn't give away the obvious propaganda spewing technique of repeating something over and over again until everyone believes it. You should realize that most of the world is aware of those dumb ass tricks since WMD's were outed! Your a real nob svector!

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    LindaStevensBZ (He wears a bra and panties when using this nic)

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  • dope,

    how many hours have you spent watching nasa vids from their library of nauts being tugged like saps? ... its hysterical, like UN says, "why would the patsies giggle when their lives are at stake" ... where people laughing as they jumped off the wtcs?--just answer his simple question without attacking me, stay on topic. thanks, pal :)

  • It's easy to draw a parallel to a controversial topic, and then claim that you're being attacked needlessly.

    But fair enough. Contrary to what WhiteJarrah will tell you, space suits aren't just big, humanoid balloons. They have a quite rigid structure, with an external cloth cover

    NASA: 72-H-314

  • Their spacesuits look unpressurized to me.

    they should look like the michelin man.

  • Check out Jarrah White's A Puffy Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon. Also take a quick gander at my Puff the Tragic Drag Man. It's a gas!

  • Then wouldn't ISS or shuttle astronauts appear the same way? Heck, even Ed White was able to bend his limbs.

  • Also, at 1:30, you can clearly see that the footage was taken on a hillside, which causes the astronauts to look somewhat as if they are being pulled backwards. But the proof is actually in the video itself. When the Astronaut tosses himself his tool (which interestingly moves in slow motion), the resulting parabola doesn't point up, but slightly to the right.

    Even if it was somehow faked, it doesn't support the "support wire" theory.

  • Sparky. Do you like being fooled? Do you enjoy having one of the biggest jokes ever played on humanity continue hold you as one of the laughing STOCK?

    Wake up. Wath the Apollo Fairy Tale. See anot jerked back and upwards to such an incredible height with absolutely no bended knee. It's all too much to believe you are serious when you won't admit that these guys are breaking laws of gravity 1/6th or not. Add the rest of the horse shit and one can only surmise FAKE, FRAUD, HOAX!

  • Sparky said, "I'm not defending the Gov, nor am I trying to say they don't lie."

    And yet every single one of his posts is designed to defend the US government and it's rogue agencies.

    Sparky, just keep defending the assholes who continue to lie to the people that slave away to provide them with a paycheck.

    Why are you such a tool?

  • There is a difference between defending the "government", and defending history.

    You seem to see the world in black and white. By your reasoning, if the "bad guys" claim to have done something good, then it is obviously an elaborate ruse that they have carefully engineered so that no one will benefit from but themselves, even if everyone saw them do it.

    That is the kind of thinking that was popular during the cold war, and it is the kind of thinking that describes a "tool".

    Look at yourself.

  • Utterly Unbelievable production. When you think of the amazing engineering Nasa used to perpetrate this "fake" it is awesome.

  • And yet their tight schedule didn't allow them enough time to throw in things like exhaust plumes, exhaust craters, stars, or convincing earth flight of the LEM.

    I fear for a society that refuses to see the truth for what it is!!!

  • fear for a society that refuses to see the truth<<

    I don't! It is a lesson learned & made America very famous and monetarily enriched a group of the selected; & aided in world power struggles. Like all lies in the end it catches up & the losses outweigh the benefits! Many in society 39 years ago knew the truth then too! The technology of television & movies was just about the same as the technology shown in the moonwalks! Imagine today; THE NEWHOAX $ MARTIAN $ STYLE! RED POPCORN FOR EVERYONE!

  • Great Video - LMAO ! Common SENSE seems to have slipped away from mankind - err...did they ever even have it? OMG - MY GOV'T IS MY GOD!! DON'T DESTROY MY GOD!! So it takes NASA 50 years to get their shit together for a return to the moon? HAHAHAHA - SUCKA'S - Raise your TAX!!

  • Wow! I wanna talk to the guys in the photo lab who airbrushed that amazing wire rig shown at :33 out of about 80-million frames of lunar footage! :))

  • NASA's NAZI's either killed him or payed him big money to shut up. So, I guess your dream is for not!

  • I think the word you're looking for it "naught."

    Ah yes, the NASA death squads who have been threatening and killing people around the world in massive numbers, yet have never been seen, photographed or documented except in fanciful scenarios. After NASA build and launched 13 Saturn V rockets, they had billions more lying around to build and hide a massive hoax studio complex, film the ruse and THEN... they had billions more lying around to pay off 1,000 of people for life.

    Yeah.

  • Have you rode with Santa on any of his yearly flights? And yet parents teach their kids that he is real. You see the same thing goes for moon landings. Only you refuse to grow up and see it!

    As far as the lengths to which NASA has, and will go to in order to keep their billions of dollars of funding every year, to keep their nasty secret. Well, it doesn't take much intelligence to figure that one out. Although I'm not sure you are in possession of the minimum amount required!

  • Are you a member of a cult...

    Apollo's origins (perhaps Oriental) are quite uncertain; his name yields no convincing Greek etymology, although he became the most thoroughly Greek of all gods...A remarkable feature of his cult was his characteristic, though not only, way of giving oracles, especially at Delphi, to possess the priestess and speak through her mouth in a way reminiscent of Siberian shamanism.

  • Are you a member of a cult...

    APOLLO, one of the most important and many-sided of the ancient Greek divinities. Apollo was the son of Zeus and Leto and the twin brother of Artemis [Diana]; he was born on Delos, where Leto had fled, persecuted by the jealousy of Hera...

  • Actually, what LT was trying to say, (and what you fail to comprehend) is that the amount of data brought back from the Apollo missions is staggering. Tens of thousands of photographs, days worth of film and telemetry, and most importantly, hundreds of pounds of rock. Samples of which were shared and validated with scientists in the Soviet Union.  All of which, according to you, was fabricated in secret beforehand with 1960's technology. It would have been by far easier to have just gone.

  • Guess your behind the times there sparky. Telemetry, which would have proved beyond a doubt...MISSING. Convenient don't ya think?

    The Soviet Union had their own pig, fakery space program used to bilk billions from their citizens. Both countries have their own share of dirty laundry. And no, it's not far easier to go to the moon than film a fake. Sorry, but that argument is completely moronoic. From Earth to the Moon cost 68 million to produce. In 1969 it would have been less than half.

  • While it is true that the Apollo 11 telemetry tapes are missing, the tapes from Apollo 12-17 are not. And remember, NASA is a Government agency. Government is not exactly known for efficiency. And sure, the Soviet Union doesn't have a very good track record on honesty, but why would they cover up secrets to help their mortal enemies?

    And From the Earth to the Moon was filmed in the late 1990's when CGI, green screen, and other filming techniques were available.

  • OMG? Your giving pat shill answers rather than some original thought. Government isn't known for their efficiency? I think I heard that first from an idiot shill at the UM boards two or three years ago. All tapes have been reported missing. Not just A11. Us being mortal enemies to the Russians is a load of Cold War rubbish used to build the military industrial complex to the degree it is today. You can't convince folks to part with all them tax dollars without a mortal enemy. Don't be fooled!

  • Actually, no, just Apollo 11 is missing, and some Apollo 9. I would be happy to provide you documentation on this if you wish, but you could just Google, "Apollo 11 telemetry tapes".

    Remember, Richard Nixon was President during this time. He couldn't even cover up a simple break-in, or close a simple leak(deep throat). If he had known of the hoax, why isn't there any mention of it in the Nixon tapes? The man recorded everybody including himself, for Christ's sake!

  • There are those who say that portions of the tapes do indeed blow the whistle on the faked moonshots. But as you should understand, a 30 billion dollar swindle is better left unknown to the American Taxpayer (victim). Don't think that would go over too well with them, do you? So, more lies, upon lies, upon lies, to keep the third biggest secret from the public. Bet you can't guess the first two. LOL

  • The Nixon tapes are public record. If there was something about the hoax in it, it would be known.

    I'm not defending the Gov, nor am I trying to say they don't lie. But it actually HELPS them in keeping their lies by propagating conspiracies when there really are none. When confronted by evidence of a cover-up, they can easily point to the more ridiculous conspiracies and claim how silly such theories are.

    I'm not going to say that the gov doesn't pull dirty tricks, but this isn't one.

  • Well, pay attention, cause the truth is about to hit you and everyone else who loves to defend the Apollo lie, right in the snout! Pay close attention to the next video...It's bound to cause a stir with all the faithful PANs out there in YT land!

  • Yes, you are defending the government and their lies. Why do you lie about that when all your posts prove otherwise?

    Take a good look at yourself in the mirror. Now realize this...

    You defend a government that is responsible for injecting innocent citizens with plutonium. Marching it's soldiers into radioactive fall-out. Performing mind-control experiments on helpless citizens. Allowing NAZI murderers to become citizens, then placing them in NASA, and other important US institutions.

  • You, sir, have the comprehension of a child.

    If I were to claim that the Bombing of Nagasaki really happened, you would claim that I was supporting nuclear war. Just because it happened, does not mean that the people calling the shots were angels, nor does it mean that they were all demons. I believe the Apollo missions really happened, but not because the government has told me too, but because that is what the overwhelming amount of evidence suggests.

    The world is not black and white.

  • From the Earth to the Moon was filmed in the late 90's, using techniques such as CGI and green-screening. Also, it was not kept secret from the public and did not have to provide scientific data good enough to fool scientists.

    Also, while the Apollo 11 telemetry tapes cannot be found, the complete records for every other Apollo mission are intact. Remember, government bureaucracies are not the most efficient keepers of records...

  • Yes it was not kept secret, like the faked moon landings of the 69 to 72 era.

    If you knew anything about the radiation in space. The billions of years the moon has been undergoing constant irradiation of intense magnitudes. The TRUE intensity of the radiation in the VAB's. The TRUE record for solar flares, and major solar flares during APOLLO, which were lied about in the official documents, saying there were no major SPE's. Shooting men into space during solar max is suicide, or murder!

  • Okay, let's play a game.

    Without looking up the answer, can you tell me about how much radiation there is in the Van Allen belts? Inner and outer? How about what type of radiation? Can you tell what kinds of radiation are harmful to humans?

    Or can you even tell me what units that radiation would be measured in? Or any kind of units that radiation is measured in?

    Again, no cheating. If you don't know the answers off the top of your head, just say so.

  • Let's play another game shall we? This one is called 'Why am I a member of You Tube'.

    How is it you have been a member of a site since April of 2007 yet have not uploaded a single video?  Not favorited a single video? Have done nothing but bashed videos which attempt to bring truth to the light of day?

    Are you just a troll for fun? Perhaps you have no reason to be here other than the propaganda you try to spread on You Tube?

    You play my game...I'll play yours!

  • I don't see the relevance, but I'll bite.

    I joined YouTube so that I could comment and share my opinions on various topics, not just the Apollo Missions. As you pointed out, that was well over a year ago. At that time I had a more strained schedule than I do now, and I suppose that I never got around to doing more.

    But you do have a fair point. I have been sharing my opinions on other videos rather than create my own. I have decided to start making videos in the next few weeks.

    Your turn.

  • The relevance, is you have nothing to show for your time here, with the exception of weightless words in an attempt to prop up one of the biggest scams against the American people and world at large in the history of man. Just behind the lie about the savage nature of Native Americans leading to the genocide of millions of innocents. When I was growing up, we were taught by the boob tube that they were the savages. The truth was quite the opposite. Or maybe you still believe might makes right?

  • And the relevance of that is the official story is often a huge lie to protect the guilty from repurcussions. The second bit of relevance is that the VICTORS write the history books!

  • Now for your game. Because to you it is a game isn't it. The truth has no meaning to you otherwise you would search it instead of buying into the lies spoonfed to you since you were able to understand the deceitful words spilling out your disinformation box, your parental types planted you in front of.

    The VAB's cannot be accurately measured because of the ever-changing nature due to Solar activity.

  • Fairly recent discoveries have proved that the belts become 1000's times more powerful when the protons become accelerated to near light speeds due to intense solar activity. Do some research, rather than relying on me to enlighten you! These answers do not come from the top of my head, rather a data bank from the hundreds of hours spent reading research papers by experts in the field. There are also recent discoveries which show solar (magnetic) storms can acutally create additional belts.

  • And then you have the man-made belts created by Starfish Prime as well as over a hundred more US military high-altitude nuclear detonations in the early sixties. And who knows how many similar detonations by the Russians. Oh, did I forget to mention 69-71 was solar maximum, providing hundreds of killer solar flares during the Apollo missions. The belts weren't the only danger. Add background GCR, gamma ray bursts, and a moon that has been bombarded with radiation for billions of years!

  • The artificial belts lasted for only months, and dissipated long before Apollo 8.

    Gamma Ray Bursts are the most violent events known to science, however none of them have ever happened near our solar system during recent history.

    And yes, the moon has been exposed to radiation for billions of years. But radiation is the transfer of energy. The moon isn't just building up that radiation to spew it out on some hapless astronaut. Since when does exposure to radiation extend the half life of it?

  • Your first sentence is a out and out lie. Or perhaps you would like to go to chernobyl and see how long the effects of radiation have lasted there.

  • 2 Giant unexplained VERY CLOSE gamma bursts were recorded on January the 10th 1997 some

    MONTH BEFORE THE HALE -BOPP COMET PERIHELIUM.

  • A lethal dose of Gamma Radiation is widely accepted to be about 500cSv. The average American receives approximately .38cSv. The highest level detected during any Apollo mission was 2.85cSv during Apollo 14. Of course, you are going to say that this data was faked, but it is cooberated by ground based observations made at the time.

  • Well, since you are so convinced of what I am going to say about the lie, then you must be aware of it yourself. Way to negate your own statements before I get a chance to comment on them.

  • Gamma Ray Bursts are unquestionably the most violent events known to science, aside from the big bang. However, none have ever been reported close enough, or even pointing at us, to do us any harm.

    However, I will go into more detail about the radiological challenges to going to the moon with my first video which will be uploaded within a few weeks.

  • If you are going to make a video, I suggest you actually do some serious research before attempting to sell your particular brand of bullshit to everyone. You'll sound more convincing that way. Your current rate of cloned, Apollo propaganda in none too convincing to someone who has been researching it for years. The problem is sorting out the lies and minimizing done by NASA from true radiation facts. Be sure to include the dangers from secondary radiation after colliding with ALUMINUM!

  • You seem to imagine that I have been doing far less independent research than I actually have. You also seem to imply that I am cutting and pasting from NASA websites. While I get some of my information from them, it is far from being my primary source.

    I am already aware of the the Bremsstrahlung effect, but thank you anyway.

  • If you are aware of it. If you are aware of all the damn radiation, then how can you defend these guys who show absolutely no signs of radiation damage, nearly forty damn years later? It just boggles my mind there sparkdog!

  • You sure you still want to play your games with me Sparky? I'll eat your damn lunch!

  • I don't see why I would, since you did not answer any of the questions I asked you, nor were you able to give me any Quantifiable information.

    Instead, you accused me of what I said you would, only using the popular portrayal of Native Americans instead of the Bombing of Japan.

    You attack me for defending government, when I already said that I have no bias regarding government, either for or against. You however, clearly have one against. One cannot claim to be a "truth seeker" under bias.

  • I am against any, and all violations against humanity. Our governments structure is fine. It's the one's who use the positions of power within our government for their personal gain, while destroying the lives of innocents I am against, and you should be as well. Apparantly your okay with government lies, as you are so eager to defend them. Do you understand that, or do I need to go into more detail for it to sink in for you?

  • I could not agree with you more in your stance on violations against humanity.

    In fact, most of our personal philosophies are similar, if not the same. Where we primarily differ is whether or not THIS is one of those lies. I don't defend it because I feel any patriotic obligation to our Government. Based on what I have seen, the evidence points that we did. Each of us sees the world through different lenses, which is why I intend to share mine via videos in the near future.

  • Well, if you know they lie, know they cover shit up all the time...Then...what is wrong with taking a look at Apollo from both sides as I did. You know what happened when I did. I found Clavius and Bad Astronomy to be full of venemous, liars. They have tried to convince me that is was real, using tactics that are despicable. All they are good at is name-calling. Their debunks are never consistent. They try to denigrate anyone who doesn't agree with them.

  • UN is 100% right, when people run out of ideas they raise their voices and ad hominem ... see how many truthers do this compared to researchers ... ive been kicked out of several blogs and never attack like i get abused--whats the prob with debate?

  • Funny, I get the same thing...

    It's all a matter of perspective.

  • Then there was the transition of the VABS. First it was a 20 minute trip. Then half hour. Then around forty minutes. Then an hour. About two hours according to another source. And of course they threw in the through the intense part of the belts as a disclaimer. Why you may ask? If they were doing the kind of speed they claim, about one hour would have covered the inner belt. But another ten hours would have been required through the outer belt. Twenty two hours round trip.

  • But do you hear anything like that from them. 2 hours in the inner intense part of the belts. 20 hours in the outer belt. New research point out that the outer belt becomes much more intense during time of high solar activity. Apollo missions of 69 and 70 were during SOLAR MAX. Meaning the outer belts were much more intense than usual. Do we hear that from PAN's? NO! Because it blows their minimizing excuses out of the water. So, you see, it's kind of hard to believe liars and subterfuge.

  • Which is not to say that there weren't cover-ups involved with Apollo. The DoD has yet to declassify Chapel Bell. I've heard a bit of speculation that it was an experiment to test whether or not the upper stage of a Saturn V could be double as a ballistic missile against soviet lunar landing sites in the event that the cold-war went hot. Of course in the end, the cold war stayed cold, and the Russians never put a man on the moon, but the intent to murder cosmonauts might be worth covering up.

  • Let me give you an example of PAN logic that furthers the CT's certainty that it was all a scam. I wanted to know why the anots weren't reaching greater heights in their movements on the moon. They blamed the heavy backpacks. Then when footage of great leaps were pointed out they back-peddled and tried to explain that one. When I pointed out anots being jerked around/lifted by invisible forces, they happily trolled down the character assassignation trail.

  • You know : this is like religion : like these guys in the vatican in these strange clothes making strange noises- : or shiites, the guys beating them selves with chains - or the jews doing a kind of toy on their heads -saying something what happened 7000 years back with surety as if they were there ! if you have believed this moon stuff since you were 2 years old

    -

    Impossible to change the brain cells.

  • I accuse you of forwarding NASA propaganda, as is evident from your minimlizing the effect of the radiation on the moon. Even NASA has had to admit the high levels of radiation on the moon. A moon-farer would be dealing with radiation from above and neutron radiation right at their feet as the shower of radiation would collide with the surface and bounce the neutron radiation back up at them from their feet. watch?v=kMLLzY_OTfg&feature=re­lated 2:53 on. And that's from NASA!

  • sparky, why cant the nauts agree on these 2 facts? they can or cant see stars? they could or could not hear the engines taking off from the moon?

  • sparky, with all those LUNAR taken pics, they couldnt get one of the stars? set their exposure a tad longer etc, or was their schedule too tight ... some nauts claim the stars were dazzling, course others say they couldnt see them.... a stumper for sure LMAO

  • Of all the stupid things!

    This video includes the Apollo Landing Training crane at Langley Research in Virginia. It can be seen from highway 134 and Wythe Creek Road! Some secret! I guess Apollo couldn't train and practice without hoaxheads going nuts? Does anything about it look like Apollo?

    These astronauts are in 1/6th G on the sides of steep hills.

    "The astronaut APPEARS to be lifted" Did he have wires on his feet?? NO! He's putting all his weight on a drill!

  • Excuses, excuses.  That's all I hear from you. Perhaps just once, you would like to be able to see video, or photos that don't have to be apologized for eh? By the way, what purpose does you defending obvious forgeries serve you?

  • I make no apology for these great clips. I do enjoy pointing out how witless your conclusions about them are.

  • Yes, they are some of the greatest clips of fiction I've ever seen in my life! And my conclusions are shared by those with the ability to see clearly without a pair of Apollo Fairy Tale glasses on!

  • yet, conclusions not shared with any astrophysicist in the world. But what do they know? They're only astrophysicists.

  • That's hysterical. I have yet to hear one astrophysicist answering tough questions about Apollo in reference to the dumb ass antics of the anots in the Apollo films.

    NOT ONE?

    I have heard from a NASA employee who can't explain no exhaust plume or descent engine noise/crater though! And I heard from the designer of the Hasselblad perplexed at how photos turned out appearing as if they were taken using a spotlight.

    Let's see if your smart enough to figure out who they are?

  • un4g1v3n1, have you talked to an astrophysicist? Are you suggesting that an astrophysicist can't answer questions about astrophysics? If you don't have not heard, that's your fault, not theirs!

    Don't play games. Name and quote your sources or shut up.

  • "Don't play games. Name and quote your sources or shut up."

    Wow, you are unfuckingbelievable. You are the one that said my conclusions are not shared by any astrophysicists. Then you tell me to quote my sources. Name and quote your sources that believe my conclusions are wrong? It would be nice if you could quote at least one who isn't tied to NASA financially or otherwise!

    So, why don't you quit making sweeping statements, quote your sources or shut the fuck up!

  • un4, :) upset a bit? I know you'd like to think astrophysicists are pouring over your conclusions. I can name 2 whom I've spoken with who are not tied with NASA financially or otherwise who believe men put retroreflectors on the moon by going.

    Dr. Stanislaw Schillak of the Space Research Center of Polish Academy of Sciences wrote me this in an email some time back:

    "Five retroreflector arrays are on the moon

    surface, three Apollo (11,14,15) and two Lunochod."

  • ... Dr. John Luck of EOS Space Systems Pty.Limited wrote this to me on the same topic:

    "the return signal strength from

    the Apollo retroreflector arrays will be infinitely stronger than from the

    "raw" lunar surface."

    These astrophysicists have no ties with NASA. They think Apollo doubters are either woefully misinformed or suffer personality disorders and they aren't playing games.

  • LunarTuner say:This video includes the Apollo Landing Training crane at Langley Research in Virginia.

    Then says:These astronauts are in 1/6th G on the sides of steep hills.

    So I have to ask :how were they at 1/6 G at Langley Research in Virginia?

    This is the kind of crap you can't see because it is all over your face.

    He has all his weight on the drill with one hand as he is loosing his balance??

  • Great video.

    :)

  • Wank.

  • I think this is cool!

  • Destination: massive public funding.

  • The moon men changed film rolls in temperatures that could alternately cook a Sunday ham and freeze oil.

  • What effect does the surface temperature of the moon have on a roll of film in an environment without convection?

  • None. The surface of the moon is comforting to those who prefer tropical or temperant climes.

  • Ah, well I prefer 'temperant'. Which, by the way, really isn't even a word. But I don't think any NASA stooges are claiming the moon's surface is exactly a short sleeves environment. I'd prefer it if you defended your claims rather than attempting diversion.

  • In an enviroment that lacks any air, so that radiation is the only method of heat transfer, which is a vastly less efficient method, during the early lunar morning, when the temperature would have been lower, yeah, yeah it is doable.

    Your 'Sunday ham' oven isn't a vacuum. The moon is.

  • Yes, radiation makes matters worse. No, N.A.S.A. has yet to produce interplanetary explorers.

  • First, not if you have an effective method of heat transfer OUT of the suit that involves the sublimation of water. A method that works only in a hard vacuum. Also, anything that keeps the film out of direct sunlight (something you would want to do anyway because it is film) would be very effective at protecing it from heat transfer by radiation. And second, saying something over and over does not make it true. Give some facts or give up your claim.

  • Oh man, I had an amusing time with this video, at how it shows that WE DID WALKED THERE. Amuses how this guy does not know that the astronauts were on a slope and that the camera was parallel with it, that's why it looks, guess what, like if the camera was tilted. LOL.

  • Didn't go, can't go, won't go...

    N.A.S.A. = Never A Straight Answer

  • Rhetoric aside, you haven't provided one single solid piece of evidence. Oh, and your claims that Van Allen thought that interplanetary travel was impossible. All you did was say this was true. Any evidence of this? Even if he did, he could have been a) just wrong b) referring to the technology when he made the statement (before the Saturn V it WAS impossible) or . Since a quick reading of his bio shows a man who supported and developed space travel, I would say the latter.

  • No man has ever gotten further than several hundred miles out {from Mother Earth}. The Magnetosphere is the shield, therefor as logic would dictate: it shields us. Compared with the outer space that lies beyond it: the magnetosphere is easy. The stars from space must be brilliant, given the fact that no cloudy Earthen atmosphere blurs them. The great music of the 1960's were T.V. themes.

  • The magnetosphere is merely the area where the earths magnetic field captures particle radiation, and this protects us yes. However, there are other ways, as I already pointed out. Besides, you wouldn't want to use steel as a protector as the secondary particles emitted could be more injuries then the primary particles. Lead would be even worse. I am not going to even ask what 60's music has to do with this. The belts are dangerous, but they mitigated that by spending only an hour in the belts.

  • The stars are about 25% brighter and there is no atmosphere to distort them yes. But that still isn't enough to allow the few meager photons from light years away to show up on a shot with an exposure time set to capture the surface of the moon in the daytime under equally unfiltered sunlight. Any increase in brilliance of stars would also apply to the Sun. This is basic photography. And any country with a satellite with a camera on it would know this, so I didn't just get this from NASA. Peace.