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  • I think this game's biggest flaw is the degrading weapons. I know some people consider it cheating but I turn that down.

  • The voice acting and sound effects in this game really makes it freaky. Love the weird monkeys, Shodan's psychotic voice, and the nurses. Great game! One of my all-time favorites.

  • Love this game, one of my all time fav games So far. If anybody reading this hasn't played it yet do so. So what if the graphics are not great, it's the gameplay and story that matters!

  • One of the best games I've ever played.

    Great show, I subscribed.

  • This game, Thief, hell even Ultima Underworld, were so ahead of their time. Why do games like these get shoved aside in history while games like quake, half-life and gaylo get all the recognition? Is popularity the basis of innovation? I think not. Maybe because looking glass and irrational fps games made you think...and we all know masses (especially console kiddies) don't like doing that...reading and patience aren't fast enough for them.

  • My favorite game ever. The atmosphere that is created is just breathtaking. And everything works together so well, from the music, voice acting over story elements, gameplay, up to the RPG elements. I would love a worthy SS3.

  • Excellent music, psychedelic... My best 1st person shooter/action adventure/rpg game ever, number 1 on my shortlist :)

  • Wow this FPS looks cool :)

  • You should've provided viewers more gameplay.

  • I tried playing this Coop recently with my wife. I ended up stuck half way inside a table begging her to club me to death with a wrench. But I wouldnt die...oh god I just wouldnt die.....

    And then the monkeys came.

    Man I wish Thief had coop.

  • @BubbleGumNipples LOL... such a great game I still remember fondly the screaming of those monkeys. Bought it as soon as it came out and still play it. The atmosphere and especially the audio score with all the effects hasn't been bettered. Though I would've like to have seen Kieron Gillen eat his desk... :D

  • Three things:

    1) You knew you had a class game when in the intro they 'smudge' the graphics to really make it look like you are watching someone with a camera filming something while you watch on TV.

    2)The title actually sold quite well, it just didn't sell to EA standards at the time when game development was already going through the roof and all titles need to sell a ton!

    3) this was the last great Sci-Fi cRPG to be released - and it's a decade old! (Fallout 3/NV are close but far back!)

  • Fantastic game. For those new to it, I would recommend the Navy as the easiest path. OSA is the hardest, or at least the one requiring the most choices on how you should develop your character.

  • can you reviev swords and sandals 3

  • ss2 pwns deus ex

  • Whats the game on the left side called at 0:20

  • Appreciate these shows alot but they could really need being longer.

    Thank you for your time.

  • surprised its not a movie yet >.<

  • Leveling up? It's hard to call this a leveling up, since there aren't any levels of your character in this game :P One more thing - keep in mind, that Bioshock was developed 2K Boston/2K Australia, which started as Irrational Games, so these are the same guys who created SS2. The only problem is that Bioshock doesn't hold a candle to SS2 - don't get me wrong, Bioshock is a great game, but it's so much worse than SS2, that calling it spiritual successor to SS2 is almost ridiculous!

  • One thing that ain't praised enough is the fantastic audio of this game. Like doom3 it has a layered "geometric" audio, and was one of the early games to support surround (using creative's technology). The speech effects are also innovative and far from the cookie cutter "radiochatter" that's used in most new games.

  • BioShock series, I'mma happy for you and I'mma let you finish, but System Shock 2 was one of the greatest PC games of all time! OF ALL TIME!!

  • Nicely done! I just finished System Shock 2 for the first time today (after reading about it in an old game catalog) and it is an AWESOME game, even ten years later.

  • It's a shame the game is virtually impossible to get working on a regular, modern PC. I've tried for years, different cracked versions, and even the original. I always manage to get it sort of half-working, like no videos but sound, or crashing after the opening cinematics end. I have it installed right now but it doesn't want to play on Windows 7 either. I played this game to death when it was new.

  • @bytex666 tried the faq on strangebedfellows, topic 106.0

  • I'd love to see Deus Ex reviewed.

  • Fucking love this feeling i get when i hear shodans evil voice!!!! :-D ah god i think i got orgasm :-D

  • Definitely not long enough. There is much more to say about SS2 than that. What about the in depth plot, side plots, scientific refrences and similiarities to SS1. But well done nevertheless.

    Shodan for 2011!

  • I always chose Navy. As thats how it was meant to be played. It fitted the hacker character. And it makes the game the most thrilling.

  • My favorite game along with the originaal. TTLG really nailed it with all their games. Ultima Underworld, Thief, SS and by extension Deus Ex all were amazingly immersive and featured great gameplay.

    Modern FPS games are certainly alright but I wish the RPG and adventure elements weren't so mitigated.

  • This game really reminds me of Half-Life.

  • Half-Life got nothing on SS2 though. SS1/2, are perhaps the best games ever created.

  • I'm an old SS2 diehard. Really glad to see this review. Oh, and Bioshock 2 on Tuesday? Yeah, it's all I can think about. 5 stars.

  • Actually, Matt, U:UW was developed a year before Doom, and about 3 months before Wolfenstein 3D . :) Despite that, great movie, i love the hidden c64 tune [Jeroen Tel?] hidden in the intro tune. Thanks for bringing the good old games to light on YT! :)

  • Oh, of course, Hubbard's Sanxion, nevermind that. :D

  • Hehe, yeah, one of these days I'm going to try to get Hubbard on the show.

  • That'd be awesome, or Reyn Ouwehand, he's doing quite well, and sometimes appears on SlayRadio, or Allister Brimble.. but You could use Your vast knowledge and locate Matt Gray of the Last Ninja 2 fame, he went missing after the C64 years.;) Or Ken Levine, Richard Garriot, Eric Chahi, Sierra people, Lucasarts people, hell, Tony Zurovec! So many great guest ahead! Looking forward! Carry on Thy Game Crusade!:)

  • Yeah and 10 years newer -.- .. How stupid are you? Halo 1 wasn't even started in development at this time.. and even though Halo 3 is 10 years newer, it isn't even as advanced as System shock 2 ..

    That is .. Fail..

  • @DJDa9L may i ask what he said? he removed it. sorry to ask, i just like to see fail. im a collector of sorts. i have shelves with my discovered fail lining my home. id love to add another of the video game breed.

  • PS. I noticed you have The Longest Journey hidden behind your back. Any changes of getting episode on that someday? Best darn point-and-click with Beneath a Steel Sky, Day of the Tentacle and bunch of other Lucasarts classics.

    And I noticed you have TLJ sequel Dreamfall: The Longest Journey there aswell. :) Great taste and great library of games. peace.

  • I do mean to get to those eventually. I also liked the other games you mention, and would add Syberia and the GK series, another of my favorites.

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  • I would definitely like to see an episode on Gabriel Knight - or a few episodes discussing the entire series :)

  • Another masterpiece review from you! I'm really glad you decided to check on System Shock 2. What a wonderful game it was. I added link to this on my SS2 gameplay video and hopefyllu I can squeeze few more watchers for your video that way. I'm looking forward to see much more episodes from you. Cheers, mate.

  • I am amazed that Bioshock got away with "inspired by" when it's a defintive ripoff. Every game element in Bioshock exists in SS2, from the pre-recorded messages from crew, to the minigames when breaking security turrets, and the upgrade stations. Everything. And SS2 did it all better.

  • And bioshock, despite being a dumbed down and bastardized version of a game that came out eight years before, was fantastic. Just helps you appreciate how amazing SS2 is.

  • Because SS2 invented Apocalyptic logs, silly hack mechanics and leveling up, right?

    Bioshock 2 wasn't "inspired by it", it was a spiritual successor. It was MEANT to be very similar in gameplay to System Shock 2, and was developed by some of the same people. And, as someone who vastly prefers System Shock to Bioshock, System Shock did NOT do voice acting or plot twists as well.

    You can prefer System Shock without having to write off Bioshock. Even if it is "worse", that doesn't make it "bad".

  • @TheAggroGod Bull. Fucking. Shit. You ever realize that BioShock's made by the same people? Companies can't rip off their own creation. BioShock's a better game. Period.

  • @NatePoky It is not made by the exact same people. But still, calling it a ripoff was slightly misleading. "reinventing the wheel with better graphics" would be better. The atmosphere, rpg-system, npc's and non-linearity of SS2 was all better than in Bioshock. Bioshock had two memorable things: The "would you kindly" scene meeting Andrew Ryan (gaming history, that one), and everything with Sander Cohen. But the gaming aspects never became interesting.

  • @TheAggroGod Alright man, that makes sense. In my personal opinion I was much more engaged with BioShock's story. Everything about it drove me crazy, the game play, the RPG elements, the creepy environments, it soon became my favorite game of all time. System Shock 2's up there too! I'd like to see a System Shock 3 though!+

  • @TheAggroGod The guys who made BioShock, the guys who founded the developing company were former employes of Irrational or Looking Glass and worked on SS2 so they didn't Rip it off, they just made that peice O Crap instead of SS3, if there isn't an SS3 by the time im in da industry im gonna make it myself :)

  • @TheAggroGod They were made by the same developer. Ken Levine was in charge of both.

  • @TheAggroGod

    well bioshock was made by the same developer. Irrational games..and the same lead designer Ken Levine. Looking glass just handled the engine work for SS2 (do check out their thief and UW games though pure genious). So you really can't rip-off your own creations.

  • @TheAggroGod excerpts from wikipedia's history of Irrational Games:

    1999 – System Shock 2 released to critical acclaim;

    2007 – Irrational Games is renamed to 2K Boston and 2K Australia on August 10, BioShock released August 21 to wide critical acclaim and strong sales.

    hope this helps ;)

  • @TheAggroGod

    isnt bioshock made by the same company that made system shock?

  • The rooms in this game make me feel like I'm in Quake, which is not a bad thing at all. I really need to start getting into PC gaming. Heck, I haven't even hooked my PS3 online yet. :P

    Another excellent review, Matt.

  • On PS3 you can play Dead Space which have a lot from SS2(And I think it is closer to SS2 than Bioshock): Space Ship, audio diaries, messages, even something like Shodan, credits(nanites), skills improvements, weapons enhancements.. just moder SS2 with more action and less RPG

  • Oh fantastic review. You've really piqued my curiosity of this game -- I've never played it and it looks good.

    I was also glad to see your mention of Thief -- I was a great fan of that game. I thought at the time of it as a welcome relief to the tired conventional FPS: finally a first-person game that didn't emphasize shooting. Sneaking around in Thief was really fun.

    Anyway, I will give this one a try when I get time. Thank you for your work on these reviews, as always. --Richard

  • Thanks, Richard!

  • If you like sneaking around and hacking, try Deus Ex too. ;-)

  • another great review Matt!

    So many things flow through my mind right now. when I first saw the game I thought "half life!" then you went to the upgrade machine and I was like "Deus Ex!" and then you got attacked and I thought "splicers!"

    I love me some atmospheric games and you have a knack to tempt me!

    I never finished Thief but loved it, I'm in Hong Kong in Deus Ex and I love it.

    now I need to get me some System Shock!

    Always a pleasure watching your vids.

  • Thanks, Konuvis. Boy, there sure are a lot of Thief fans out there. I wonder if there are any plans to make a new one?

  • din't you se they announced Thief 4 recently? But it's been downhill since Thief 2 so we'll see.

  • Thanks, Richard!

  • Mel you mean? ;)

  • Whoops!

  • I think I played that game before hmmmm looks sooo familier :)

  • Its been a long time since I played this. Never played first one though.

    Making System Shock 2 work on Vista 64-bit might be really irritating but totally worth it. Thanks for another great review Matt.

  • Thanks, lewa123456!

  • MY most fav game of all times!

  • once again a great review matt :) I played System Shock 2 back in the day briefly, but I didn't have the time to play it properly back then ... maybe it's time to reminisence some old memories !

    seeing this reminded me of the Half Life too though, which was probably also kind of inspired by this game (only the atmosphere, of course Half Life is a pure shooter, doesn't have RPG elements...)

  • Nice review, I love the environments in this game.

  • wow that game looks actually pretty good, i wana play it lol. great review once again.

  • Good review. Two things though: You used a mod (ADaoB) and forgot to mention it. Also Bioshock wasn't just inspired by System Shock 2, it was created by the same company (Irrational Games).

  • Thanks for point these out. I talked more about the mods and patches at Armchair Arcade (it won't let me post the link here, but you can check it out if you like). In any case, I should have mentioned ADaoB because I really appreciate the awesome work that went into it!

  • As always: Great video, Matt. =)

  • Thanks!

  • nice review

    But could you review Command and Conquer?

  • Sooner or later I will definitely do C&C!

  • This game defined atmosphere in games, such a great classic for that. A shame it didn't get the praise it deserved at the time.

  • Thief the Dark Project came out befor this, and that had tons more atmosphere if you ask me.

  • Agreed. It was just way ahead of its time. People began understanding and appreciating this game much later on.

  • This game is a best of breed. It does a great job of being scary without resorting to a lot of cheap thrills. The only thing that I don't like about the game is the weapon degradation mechanic in combination with re-spawning enemies. I think one or the other would have been fine especially considering the rationing of ammo. However, there are community mods to address these issues.

    One thing I'd like to point out is that the music in this game is top notch. It still haunts me to this day.

  • A great game, but I'm still trying to beat part 1 :P

    They Created Worlds, back then...

    Ah, Good Ol' well written games, gotta love 'em ^_^

    Wow, I'll also have to try that Thief game :P Once again, you've given me a new challenge

    Funny, That SS2 Intro IS Half-Life's Intro XD

  • damn this game is scary

  • New Matt Chat is out! Booyah!!! I think I may be an addict...

  • Haha. Well, enjoy! Thanks.

  • This is one of my fav pc games ever. Well this and Deus ex : )

  • Ah, Deus Ex is a great game, too. I was playing it on GameTap but ended up getting my saved game corrupted. Sigh.

  • that sucked : ( i think i had that problem to with the original pc game

  • Yeah, I was surprised that you didn't mention Deus Ex in the vid. When I think System Shock 2, the first comparison that comes to mind is Deus Ex. What a pair of great games. Anyway, great vid as usual, Matt!

  • EXCELLENT ! ! ! ! !

  • Thanks, Captain!

  • I knew it! WHAT IS IT WITH YOUTUBE LOSING EARLY COMMENTS? I was first to comment 6 HOURS AGO! It's even in my recent activity in my profile geez.......I will repeat: "This game has always interested me, I have not played it much but I find the premise really cool!"

  • Hm...Didn't "lose it" on this end. It's still there; I just replied to it! :)

  • Yep I see it now too, weird, it was definitely gone when I left the new reply, I selected see all comments and carefully scrolled from top to bottom, it was definitely gone, and now it's back....stupid youtube................

  • Same thing happened to me on the last Matt Chat! Perhaps youtube's too busy sucking the corporate proverbial to make sure their foundations are sound!

  • Another great Matt chat, really enjoy these videos Matt :)

  • Thanks, Snestastic!

  • Awesome game... and great video

  • Thanks!

  • Really love the atmosphere of this game. Excellent choice for this weeks Matt Chatt.

    The historic perspective on this game is amazing. Thanks for showing this mate!

  • Happy to be of service!

  • I've heard this mentioned in relation to Bioshock but knew nothing about it... Until now! I'm with Interghost: it's always great when a new Matt Chat comes up on my list of subscriptions. Fine review, good sir!

  • Thanks very much, marcus!

  • ANother great video of another great game.. thanks Matt. Always love to see your videos apear on my list of ones to watch! Fantastic cheers ;o)

  • Thanks, interghost!

  • Great review as always Matt, I've never played this game but think I would have loved it. Especially since Half Life 2 and Bioshock are favourites of mine.

    Actually any chance of a Half Life 2 review? :-D

  • Definitely at some point. It's one of my favorite FPS games, and I just managed to get a cheap copy of it.

  • That's great to hear Matt! Love forward to it... :-D

  • Great review!

  • Thanks!

  • where is my jackrabbit :D

    not rly great vid

  • hehe, thanks!

  • A really nice video, Matt :)

    This game is one of the best FPSs ever. The atmosphere and soundtrack was awesome.

    Although, I do admit, I cheated a little at the beginning cause I never had enough modules.

    I remember the first time playing it (I was like 9 years old) and I got to the part with the ghost. I entered the MedSci deck and saw someone. I thought "Finally some other guy!"... but no, he ran at me screaming something and scared the sh*t out of me :D

  • Hehe, that happened to me, too. Lots of shocking moments in this game, and it's not so frequent that you get immune to it.

  • Did you ever reach Deck 3? If you listen to the logs, you can hear that all the female staff was abducted and some crazed scientist experimented on them. At one point, you can see a "ghost scene" about one of them getting operated. That literally scared the crap out of me.

    You can see that part at this vid : /watch?v=r1ctXUlaEzg&feature=r­elated . Ohh and, when do you have the time to try UO out then?:)

  • Nicely done, mate.

  • Thanks!

  • Appropriate game for Halloween-time, everyone always mentions this in their top ten scariest games. Looks very cool, great review!

  • I was surprised at how scary it was! Definitely see the influence this game had on Doom 3 (though I like this one better).

  • I love the System Shock games ... I would say more but I got the Metroid Prime Trilogy now and its consuming my mind almost whole

    Aberran

  • Hehe, same here. I'm up to Corruption now. Looks great so far.

  • This game has always interested me, I have not played it much but I find the premise really cool!

  • Thanks, Rob!

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