Rubio is an embarrassment to Florida and most of all to himself. He is a kid with some demented attitude spawned by his candy ass backers. He is a shameless shill, and we need to rid ourselves of this kind of blight.
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@CoconutCapt rubio voted for the ndaa bill...taking away the basic rights of due process, of americans. I liked rubio, but was very disapointed to hear this. he is no friend of liberty.
I can't take this guy Marco Rubio seriously. First of all for being Republican. Anybody who runs as a Republican needs their brain examined. It's the party of corruption and incompetence.
And anybody who even closely associate themselves with this Tea "Party" is a moron.
@41742Glo If that were true, he wouldn't be eligible for VP either according to the Constitution. But, he is actually eligible for both VP and Pres, a NBC under the 14th Amendment.
Rubio how does Perry french kiss? Rubio and others who do this - stop being Republican just to hide the fact you are gay. Even though you make your face as expressionless as you can the gay, the lisp, the gestures are still apparent, though not as obvious as Marcus Bachmann. You got married and had children; everyone gets it you’re a complete follower. Do you have to take being in the closet THIS far? America is sick of you Hoover types!
The truth is a powerful foil against these hardline socialists. I just hope we have a country left in two years so good people like Marco can get us working again.
As a Tea Party member, I believe wealthy people should NOT be on Medicare, VA and Social Security. It should be strictly for the needy. I believe in a flat income tax rate for everyone and a national sales tax would be good so crooks and people paid in cash would pay taxes. Europe has national sales taxes as high at 16-20%. I hope America won't have to go to those extremes.
Rubio is just another pandering politician who talks a good game about liberty and freedom and is the exact opposite. He is another long line of fraud Neoconservatives who want to send other peoples men and women to war to die when he never served himself. Not to mention he supports the highly unconstitutional Patriot Act which allows federal agents to write their own search warrants in violation of the 4th amendment. Not to mention he supports Obama's illegal war in Libya.
@nullthesilence I am no fan of Clinton, He Reagan, Bush 2 and the various Congresses are to blame for the housing bubble, the trade imbalance we have now and our jobs moving overseas. The middle class and poor are strapped. If they had it easier then I would say yes. But the wealthy are making double digit increases year over year, they have the access to politicans to influence policy and our tax code, trade policy and dereg of the past 30 years is a testiment.
@nullthesilence I hate capital gains as a way to make sure salary is not hidden inside the company. If we can get rid of it and do something else. So much the better. 40K can work in some areas but in most areas where there are high numbers and people (IE jobs) 40K is a unaceptable amount to make especially if you have a family and hope to have a good family environment where the parents are active and kids are not simply dropped at daycare.
@nullthesilence The areas were we need to spend more are transporation infrastructure, Energy, technology, communication and manufacturing infrastructure. Plus we need to reform education so education works to make people competitive in the world market. But we do need cuts in many areas, including defense, corp welfare.. we need changes and cuts to SS, Medicare and Medicad.
@nullthesilence Here is how I know. You the employee are not the end user of HC, your employer is. So the rules of capitaism do not apply in this dynamic. I have personal stories to tell you about how in right to work states. the Employer -Insurance dynamic has ruined famlies. There is no incentive for a company other that to turn a profit. It is in insurance companies interest to not pay claims to cover the 30% overhead they bring to the table.
@nnjhansen We supported Saddam by selling him weapons, providing intel when we were engaging that who "enemy of my enemy is my friend" BS. There was a deafening silence from Reagan when Saddam used chem weapons that we, the French and the Germans sold him on the Iranian army. Stick your head in the sand if you must for ideology sake but that is the record. Rumsfeld even helped broker those sales in the 1980s.
@nnjhansen@nnjhansen@nnjhansen CBS News,The NYT, PBS Frontine, The GAO under "dual use" seem to discredit your absolute positivity on the matter.
National Security Decision Directive (NSDD) 139 of April 5, 1984, "Measures to Improve U.S. Posture and Readiness to Respond to Developments in the Iran-Iraq War," . The directive calls for "unambiguous" condemnation of chemical weapons use, without naming Iraq, but places "equal stress" on protecting Iraq from Iran's "ruthless and inhumane tactics.
@DWDave67 "Dual Use" is a very broad term. What specifically did we sell them? Civilian helicopters that "could" have military uses? Computers? I fought against the Iraq Army twice, never once did I encounter an American weapon system.
Exactly what do you believe NSDD 139 says that supports your argument?
@nnjhansen It tells much... because offically, We sold the Afghans no weapons in their fight against the Soviets right? Do you think we played a heavy role in making sure those weapons got there to the rebels didn't we? Same thing here in Iraq. Saddam was scum... everyone knew it but he was our scum doing our bidding against the Iranians.If you want to believe St Ronnie wasn't involved... sure thing. I just have enough gov experience to know better.
@DWDave67 He was NOT our scum. He was a Soviet client for most of his reign.
Do you have any examples of the weapons we allegedly sold Iraq? Every time I looked at their OB, it was full of Soviet and some French weapon systems.
@nnjhansen Amazingly the Afghans didn't have any American weapons either... amazing isn't it? And he was our scum...Saddam was a wild card so after the USSR was done Bush 1 conveniently made Saddam our next boogeyman aftyer our diplomat to Iraq told him that regional land disputes "were none of our business" and saddam was stupid enough to think that was the green light to go into Kuwait. Saddam was a pawn of both the US and USSR.
@nnjhansen Are you really that naive? We sold that weapons system to countries across the globe. The US never sold those weapons to Afghanistan's freedom fighers... they found their way into the theater via covert 3rd party means. Do you have the US military sales slip? The Iran-Iraq war went from 1980-1988. BEFORE the fall of the USSR. Please let me know when you know what you are talking about. Thank you. I am done with your lack of historical/political knowledge.
@DWDave67 Stingers were not available on the world market at the time (See multiple news accounts regarding release of Stingers to Afghan rebels dated 31 Mar 1986). The only place they came from was the US through Pakistan.
Are you having trouble comprehending what I write? I said, "The Iran-Iraq War was not after the fall of Soviet Union." NOT after the fall means before the fall.
Why not start with abolishing all these FDR-like alphabet soup agencies that clearly do not work?? EPA, Dept of Ed, Dept of Energy, ATF, Homeland security, TSA, Indian Affairs, OSHA, HUD, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, NPR, etc. I am sure the individual states can do without all of these federal programs.
@jcomd Go to china... see how well having no regs on the environment works for them. They also have no unions whatsoever so they get paid pennies and work in bad conditions. Is that what you wish to emulate??? Really??
I really do wish conservatives could for once get their ideological heads out of their buts and see the bigger picture.
@DankWIn. I am the same age as Schieffer, and during the '60s he and I shared the same politics: liberal Democrats suspicious of LBJ and dismissive of the politics of Barry Goldwater. Schieffer has not changed his opinion,indeed he has become more liberal. Rubio is right to challenge him.
wait wait wait...I thought the democrats had a monopoloy on hispanics, blacks, the middle class, etc.??? that is dead wrong -- yet they continue to try to brainwash the nation to think this is so. I am a middle class republican. I think the difference is that republicans would like to give the middle class the opportunity to exit the middle class and aspire for greater things (people > govt)...whereas the democrats would like to keep you where you are, dependent on government (govt > people)
When you contrast Rubio with Obama by way of seriousness it is stunning. We have a petulant child running the country. Thus, the economic romper-room!
A wet towel in the oval office would be better for America's fiscal future.
With only half of americans working and paying taxes, it's no wonder we are in the hole. We will never resolve our national debt problem if the other half of americans does not return to work and contribute to the tax system. Any other means of getting more tax revenue is artificial and will do harm in the long run.
How come I'm still hearing about Bush from those of the liberal persuasion when Obama is running for reelection after having spent more money than Bush with absolutely nothing to show for it? Even now, where is Obama's plan? Raising taxes won't raise enough money. New taxpayers would, however. Let's focus on the real problem. We need more revenue, but let's get it from attacking unemployment and not punishing the job creators and 51% of taxpayers already footing the bill.
Actually you LIBERAL assholes... It was CLINTON who started beating the drums of war. It was CLINTON who said Saddam has WMDs and needs to be stopped.
Liberals are so out of touch with reality and yes, Obama is the product of liberals telling him he is soooo articulate. The ends result of a subpar student having his ass kissed for being black. A shell of a true leader.
@Charlie12241 Oh, you mean the very wars that ALL of your democratic heroes voted for? Please... This crisis has more to do with your liberal heroes forcing banks to make loans to crackheads named Jameel. Your liberal policies are ridiculous and NOT good for this great nation. Fuckin bum ass culture of whining and living off the backs of WORKING americans.
@DIYcomedy123 I never said I was a democrat. No politician is my hero, because they are ALL lying assholes who only care about themselves. What proof do you have that banks are forced to do anything by anyone? I don't have liberal or conservative policies because liberals and conservatives suck dick. Since when is telling the truth "whining"? I am a working american jackhole.
@Charlie12241 LEADERS NEVER have icy shoulders and shrug off blame, you think Commanders in the Military act like this? FUCK NO! I worked with many officers and they take responsibility with what they have and change the hand they were dealt with.
@jkutnink87 So knowing some commanders are responsible means they are all responsible? Sure. I should quit interupting your tea with Alice in Wonderland.
What an incredible man! So Blessed to have him as our Senator! Fellow Senators and Mr. President, do what is right and good for our country, please!!!! Listen to what he says!
This is no game Mr. President! Stop with this foolish behavior and get your nose out of the air! Your arrogance has sickened us! In my life, I've NEVER seen anyone even close to you. I have NEVER heard an elected official that speaks as poorly as you do. WHERE IS YOUR PLAN MR. PRESIDENT?
"When people tell you that Communist China is a better place to do business than America, you know you're in trouble." What system gave these "people" the opportunity to gain their wealth? Why, in a time of war, did Bush and the GOP-led congress CUT taxes for them? Why won't they contribute 3% of their wealth toward solving the problem? If increasing their tax rate "kills jobs", then where are the jobs that their current rate allows them to create? Why aren't they creating them now?
The debt was transferred onto the books of the American taxpayers by the 'investment' banks on Wall St to write off their debt. No one in DC is punishing them or changing the way they do business. Rubio exposes the ultimate goal in his last sentence, that is to convert the US into communist China. They want complete deregulation so that the air is unbreathable, the water undrinkable, and the labor force are reduced to living in company towns, enslaved to the corporation. On that he is clear.
Thats the problem.. as Reagan,Clinton and Bush 2 plus their respective Congresses deregulated the banking/credit and mortgage industries, passed NAFTA and other bad trade deals, gave tax cuts out like candy while increasing spending and engaged in wars of want... People in this country are woefully uneducated as to the consequences of these actions. Now there are no more games to play. We need cuts, tax increases on the rich and a change in trade/foriegn policy.
I Believe This Was A Video Clip Of CBS News' Face The Nation With Bob Schieffer's Report On Sen. Marco Rubio Of Florida On Sunday Morning, July 17, 2011.
@whimywimp: What is it with conservatives who only see RAISE TAXES when what I said was raise taxes on the rich, CUT SPENDING... Let me repeat CUT SPENDING... and it case you missed it the second time... CUT SPENDING and fix our trade problems. Rubio is just another GOP talking point empty suit. When Rubio takes his own party to task for the past 40 years... I'll listen.
@DWDave67 Maybe because conservatives understand that no one ever got a job from a poor person. That 'the rich' already pay virtually all the federal income taxes now. That there are not enough rich people to make a meaningful dent in the level of overspending we are currently engaged in. That 'the rich' will simply restructure their lives to avoid paying punitive levels of taxation.
We have a spending problem, not a revenue problem.
@nnjhansen Furthermore... the wealthy do not drive the consumption based economy we have now. The middle class and poor do. When conditions favor starting up a production facility in Mexico or China because workers are paid pennies on the dollar its not good for the US, that is what NAFTA and other bad trade deals have done. We have a spending priority problem and a revenue and trade problem and they are all connected. Free trade is bad for this country. We need fair trade.
@DWDave67 Define "fair" trade. Is it good that I can go to the store and buy inexpensive goods? Yes, it improves my standard of living. Would I be better off if those inexpensive products were kept out or made more expensive by tariffs? No, I would not.
The only real and meaningful definition of fair trade is one in which one person can enter into a contract with another to purchase a good or service at mutually agreed upon and beneficial terms. No governmental involvement.
What Bob Schaefer really meant when he signed off, was;
"Well Senator, the clock's run out and you're telling the truth that my bosses and the DNC doesn't want the American people to hear, so I'm going to have to cut you off so we can spin this against you and the Republicans later".
Definitely Presidential material. I was glad I never heard umm, ummm, ah, ah, ah, umm, ah. Articulate and obviously believes what he has to say. Wish we could clone him by the hundreds.
The other thing that they fail to explain is once they steal the 1 trillion that they are slobbering over, what is going to happen to the unemployment rate which is the biggest since the Great Depression. All those trillions that government is pissed away served only to double the unemployment rate. Yet the socialists, are steadfast in continuing on the road to serfdom. The goal is obviously to equalize the US with the 3rd world through Cloward and Piven.
I wonder when either party will get serious? The GOP raised the debt ceiling 7 times under Bush and it was done without any fanfare. This is just political thether by the right for 2012. They have no interest iin helping the country right now because if the economy gets better. The GOP loses. That is the historical truth.
@DWDave67 "GOP" raised the debt ceiling and Bush pissed away 5 trillion in 8 yrs that he did not have, Which is why they were replaced by (HAC) HOPE & CHANGE. HAC pissed away 5 trillion in 3 yrs. and wants to piss away more than 12 trillion in 8 yrs. The parasitic bolsheviks are itching to get their grubby paws on the 1 trillion that "the rich" are "hording", but fail to explain how that 1 trillion is supposed cover 26 trillion debt that they want to incur.
OMG, Rubio is so clear about the GOP BS position. What cuts does Rubio talk about? None...The idiots on both sides need to realize we need to raise taxes on the rich, cut spending which includes defense, farm subsidies, oil subsidies AND get rid of NAFTA and any trade deal we have like with China where their workers get paid nothing and they have no environmental regs. Hit China with high tariffs to spur making things in this country again. Our economy as it is now has been 40 years in making.
@nnjhansen The Job creator ha!!! Hey... newsflash... the Bush tax cuts are still here... If low taxes for the rich equals jobs then why did Bush 2 create the least amount of jobs in the post WW2 era? Fix our trade problem, then your BS theory may have some weight to it.
@DWDave67 The average unemployment during Bush's terms was 5.3%. According to the OECD, that is in the range considered 'full employment' (4 to 6.4%). Whining about the lack of job growth when there is full employment is like complaining you have no more ice cream when you can't eat another spoonful.
We do have a trade problem but tariffs and protectionism is not the solution. Drilling for more oil and natural gas, mining more coal, growing more food are.
@nnjhansen the last month Bush was in office the US lost 700K jobs alone. (When the economy was in freefall mode). During that "full employment period" you know what the #1 employer in AZ ( a conservative bastion) is? Walmart... so the so called "full employement does not tell the full story. The top 400 wage earners in America paid an avg of 16% in taxes. Compare that to a middle class person. The wealthy also control most of the welath as well.
@nnjhansen 38% is their tax level but after the deductions and other dodges, they end up paying 16%... Walmart... besides bad benefits and substandard wages... absolutely nothing. Fair trdae is when you deal with other counties that have collective bargaining for workers, enviromental regs etc so we are not at a disadvantage based on wages to workers. China has no Unions, no Envornmental regs... So companies make stuff over there. Not here. Bad for the US.
@DWDave67 Are you going to answer what percentage an average middle class earner pays?
Are the "rich" not entitled to the same deductions as everyone else?
"Bad" benefits? "Substandard" wages? That must explain the line of potential employees for every opening.
So we make ourselves uncompetitive and then we should only trade with those nations that follow our example? Sorry but I like inexpensive quality products.
@nnjhansen A family of 4 pays 4.7% and the number while on the surface seems fine, its their ability to deal with being able to afford housing, transporation, medical care and all the other things necessary to make a life in this country is severley impacted by higher taxes. If you feel they need to pay more, you are welcome to that arguement. Your other arguement seems to lend itself that we should become more like China. Is that what you propose?
@DWDave67 So that would be a less than a third of what the 'rich' pay? How is that fair? Why is paying for necessary government services different than paying for food, housing, or anything else?
No, we should decide the type of nation we wish to be and understand the consequences of the decisions we make. Pretending there are no consequences or that others should pay for your decisions is not the right option.
@nnjhansen Now if you want to talk about the middle class, then we also need to talk about the biggest income gap since the robber barron era. Middle class people pay a lower rate but what they do pay dramatically effects their ability to put food on the table, a roof over their head and their ability to keep the economy chugging along. The wealthy do not keep the economy moving and even if they paid the full 38%, that does not impact their lives like the taxes on the middle class do.
@nnjhansen Because empires fall when too much income is concentrated at the top. Its a historical fact. Obviously rich in NYC, San Francisco, LA is different than rich in AR, MS, SC but I think 250K is a good point to start if you want to generalize. Your side loves their gov services as much if not more than the liberal side. If you can show me where cuts and which cuts alone get the job done, I will listen. So far, the numbers by the right do not add up.
So two middle level professionals with a couple of kids in college, a mortgage payment, a couple of cars are "rich"? They can afford to send 20% more of their income to the gov't?
Start with the Ryan Budget or Coburn's plan, they are tame for my taste but are a start.
@nnjhansen Ryan gives further tax cuts to the wealthy that are paying 60 year low taxes. If low taxes equals job creation then the US economy would be at lower unemployment rates wouldn't they? Trouble is, we live in a global economy now and the wealthy are building their new widgets in China or Mexico. I for one do not want the US to be like either of them. Ryan's plan is a sad joke. Too bad the GOP put themselves in a corner due o their extremist wing (the tea party)
@nnjhansen Ummm no... its called fiscal responsibility and doing right by the country for the long run. Since conservatives are incapable of being fiscally responsible (see Reagan, Bush 2) and we are in the biggest economic emergency since the great depression, I think a balanced approach is better than the extremist approach. Boy I wish you were around when Bush raised the debt ceiling 5 times before the collapse that Obama had to deal with. But is sounds good that is on Obama right?
@DWDave67 Sticking your hand in someone else's pocket is not financial responsibility. We have a spending problem. Federal spending is now close to 24% of GDP. The total federal spending the last year of Bush was under $2T, it is now almost $4T, that is in 3 years. We are approaching a debt to GDP ratio of 100%, it never approached anything close to that under Bush or Reagan.
This is not a Reagan problem,or a Bush problem. It is an Obama problem.
@nnjhansen What you are saying is not accurate because you like many conservatives refuse to take into account the past 40 years of polcies that led up to the collapse. Whether you realize it or not, we got out of the great depression via Gov spending. (New Deal Programs and WW2) obviously we do not want world conflict to get us out of this mess but spending does have to happen. Bush conveniently left off war spending on his budgets and HC is not on the books yet.
The New Deal prolonged the Depression. The war put people to work and we paid for it afterward. The current 'stimulus' cost more than the Iraq war and was a colossal failure.
War spending is always off budget because it is temporary and should not be included in the baseline. It was still included in end of FY deficit totals. The scary part is that the Obama spending does not yet include the healthcare expenditures, they will only make it worse.
@nnjhansen A combination of 1) making credit easier to obtain without the proper employement/assets to justify it. 2) Deregulation of the mortgage industry, wall street, banks 3) tax cut and borrow policy 4) Using trade deals to move the good paying jobs out of the country. 4) The Iraq war coupled with tax cuts at the same time 5) Easing of speculatory oil trading regs that allows Wall Street to manipulate pricing more than OPEC or the market..
@nnjhansen Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act for one...it undermined Glass-Steagall Act, Gov is supposed to work for the people, not corporations and that is what laws are for. Obama was wrong about the impact of the stimulus, Senator Phil Gramm clandestinely slipped a 262-page amendment into the omnibus appropriations bill titled: Commodity Futures Modernization Act. That loosened the regs on speculatory oil trading and allowed traders to have greater impact on the price of oil than the market itself.
@nnjhansen The United States will have spent a total of $3.7 trillion on wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, costing 225,000 lives and creating 7.8 million refugees, by the time the conflicts end, according to a report released on Wednesday by Brown University. And for what again? Obama got Osama with a special forces team (finally) and we got rid of Saddam, our former friend who we had surrounded. (golf clap) Iran thanks us everyday.
@DWDave67 The US has spent $1.3 trillion on the wars over the past decade. That is not a university estimate, it is the actual dollars allocated and appropriated by Congress.
Saddam was never our friend and he was never surrounded.
@nnjhansen The 3.7 trillion numbers is actual war expenditures plus the HC of the soldiers that come home and the rebuilding that we will do for these countries. Saddam, we sold him WMDs in the 80s to help fight the Iranians which Saddam started that war. Iran is to the east, Kuwait/Saudi Arabia to the (south), Turkey (north). Syria was the only semi-friend Saddam had. We had no fly zones in the north and south. Saddam was effectively surrounded.
@nnjhansen Yes we did.. do a basic google search and find out yourself. Now I understand you conservatives are not so good at history or geography but Iran is to the east, (No friend of Iraq), To the north is Turkey (we have forces there), To the south is Kuwait and Saudi Arabia (We have forces there). Syria is the only relationship Saddam had and he would not go there because the Israelis would attack him.
@DWDave67 1. The idea of geographically surrounding a threat in the age of 21st century asynchronous warfare is absurd.
2. In order for "US" to have him surrounded, "WE" need to control all sides. We had no control over his relationship with Iran or Syria and little more than influence with Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Jordan.
3. Your $3.7T figure is a figment, it is not an appropriation, it is not a CBO projection of legislative costs, it is not part of any budget baseline.
@nnjhansen Saddam had no friends on any side except Syria. and Israel is next door... the man had nowhere to go even if we wanted to start trouble. You can make excuses all you wish but them's the facts. If you have a number that includes reconstruction, HC of the soldiers who have been injured, send them...Bush Inc lied and used 9/11 to get us into Iraq. To deny that is simply a history rewrite (again) by conservatives... Any speech by Bush before the war that did not have 9/11 and Saddam???
@DWDave67 Friends? Are you really that geo-politically naive? You do not have to go next door to cause trouble.
The cost of the wars is $1.3T to date. Costs of reconstruction and health care are whatever we decide to spend.
No one lied. That is not a denial of history but the conclusion of the Democratic controlled Senate Select Committee on Intelligence investigation into prewar statements made by the President and senior administration officials. Bush NEVER blamed Iraq for 9/11.
@nnjhansen hmmm... how did polls showed 70% of people thought Saddam was involved before the war. Who fanned those flames??? The liberals??? No... it was GWB... every speech mentioned Saddam, Osama and 9/11. That was not by accident.
Funny, is Kuwait next door to Iraq? I believe it is. Bush knowingly used wrong statements about Iraq's nuke capabilities at the SOTU speech.
As I said, you come up with HC costs for our soldiers and the costs of reconstruction, I will listen But U have none.
@DWDave67 Can you give an example of the President blaming Iraq for 9/11? Anyone in the Administration? It was the Clinton Justice Department that cited al Qaeda - Iraq cooperation in its original UBL indictment and as justification for the bombing of the Sudanese pharmaceutical plant.
Bush's statements were consistent with the available intelligence..
I have none because none have been allocated, appropriated, or projected. I do not engage in pulling numbers out of thin air.
Plus the idea of invading and occupying a country for the sole reason of they "may" have weapons is the false premise. If that was the litmus test for war, how come we never invaded the USSR? We knew they had them. And if you wish to bring up Iraq is in violation od UN resolutions... well so is Israel but I don't see China invading because of it. Bush had daddy issues... and we have to waste money, people and our reputation for Bush's therapy. Trillions are wasted.
@DWDave67 The USSR did not agree to a ceasefire agreement with us contingent on them destroying their weapons under international supervision, did they?
Israel is in violation of no Chapter 7 UN Security Council Resolutions. You are simply factually incorrect.
@nnjhansen Future costs are meaningless except when its the HC plan right? 3.7 Trillion dollars is what Bush Inc are on the hook for starting that war based on lies and a false premise. But thats ok. So by your logic, lets invade China because I have a"feeling" that they may attack us in the future. You make no sense when you talk that jibberish. Iraq was no threat to the US to warrant an invasion and occupation. 3.7T o top of the massive debt Bush did. That is the record.
@nnjhansen According to the WSJ (Not a liberal rag) without the stimulus, you would have seen another 1-3M people unemployed. It was not the magic bullet, we need fundemental changes to the economy in trade, tax and spending policy to fix it.
@DWDave67 As the President's own CEA wrote, “evaluating the impact of countercyclical macroeconomic policy is inherently difficult because we do not observe what would have happened to the economy in the absence of policy.”
The reality is that the stimulus failed by its own measure.
We need to remove uncertainty, reduce spending, reduce regulation, and get gov't out of the way.
@nnjhansen You certainly are entitled to that opinion after that quote but the WSJ I have a feeling know a bit more than you about such matters.
Reducing regulation is what got us here in the first place. Gov has a valuable role to play as does business in this economy. Problem is that since Reagan got in Gov has been the agent of big business and not a check against its abuses.
@DWDave67 That is not an opinion, it is a fact. The President claimed that the stimulus would prevent the unemployment rate from reaching 8% and would result in an immediate and shard reduction in the unemployment rate. It failed on both counts.
Which regulations, specifically would have prevented the housing bubble?
Gov't is not supposed to act as a check on business.
Oh, just so I understand... since you are a cuts only person. What do you cut and how much? Are you going to be a cliche and only cut spending that are favored by Democrats or are you going to give me something real?
@DWDave67 I would raise the retirement age for SS and Medicare and move them both to private plans as quickly as feasible. I would end the Dept's of Energy, Education, Labor, HUD, Agriculture. Phase out farm subsidies. End all energy subsidies. Block grant medicaid. Across the board cuts (20%) to all non-defense departments and agencies.
End baseline budgeting. Every agency has to justify existing levels of funding every year. No automatic increases.
@nnjhansen With you on the raising of Retirement age...Private plans won't work... Insurance companies make money by collecting more in premiums than they pay out in claims... The elderly would be a deal breaker...Disagree on Labor, Education.HUD, Agriculture...Agree on farm subsidies and energy subsidies... Defense needs to be cut by 400B a year. Eisenhower was right.
@nnjhansen Because the private sector as it is now is is not capable of providing care as an industry. before 1968, big business was not involved with HC as it is today and the end user of HC was you, not your employer so the market was allowed to work, then we have to talk about the fast food revolution and what it did to food production and human health. Europe, Japan, Korea, Israel, Middle East, Persia... bring them all home. World police no more.
@DWDave67 The biggest entity involved in healthcare and the biggest distorter of the market is not 'big business' it is government. Get rid of that and you will be amazed how well the market works.
So are you saying we have no interests anywhere in the world?
@nnjhansen HC is not a widget. HC is out of control because of insurance companies and employers colluding together to put cost before care. A company only mission in life is to make money and since the company tells you what doctor you can see and what is covered. A single payer system where the company, gov and individual pay a % and the goal is prevention is best. Interests is one thing... BS like Vietnam and Iraq are another. Huge blunders in money and blood.
@DWDave67 Health care is a service no different than any other service. Employers are involved because of government policy. Insurance policies are private contracts that you are free to to be a party to. If you do not like the terms, don't sign on.
Your health care is your responsibility, not mine, not your employers, and not the government's.
What interest do you believe we have in the world that we need to be prepared to defend?
Bob is out classed bassed on his ideology or was that Obumer stating those terms.
NO leadership on the president. Obamas main focus is create kaos in Saul Alinsky mode and never answer direct question
Yet obama's failures are hidden in the media, no tough question from the liberal slant media. We're are waiting fare and equal treatment but if not...a message will be sent come 2012/
This guy is a leader not just a politician. Take that Face the Nation! Let's Face the Facts. The Facts are the President's agenda is Marxist!! What better way to bring on anarchy in America, help to push the economy into meltdown and blame it on the bad old GOP. ALL YOU POLITICAL PARTIES ARE CORRUPT, both the Jackasses and the Elephants. The TEA Party candidates can only get into government through one party or the other.
Articulate, accurate, specific and passionate!! If he gets some executive administrative experience under his belt and he will be real presidential material.
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Wow!!! How is it possible for a politician not to speak from both sides of his mouth. The guy has the full package to lead America. At least he does not sugar coat and tell lies like the present incumbent.
When I first heard of Marco Rubio, that he was a rising political superstar, I scoffed. But after each and every speech I've heard from this guy, my respect meter goes up a big notch. This interview is no different. I now understand how Marco Rubio has gained popularity -- it's his ability to cut through the mess and see things for what they are. More importantly, he has the common sense to see the solutions. If he ran for president, he will have my vote.
@Flyyyy I don't know why you're making posts and then removing them. But I identified this "removed" entry as your response to me because it was removed just 2 minutes ago as of this viewing.
Good politicians have to be more than just truthful. They have to be able to communicate succintly and cogently. Marco Rubio is one of the very few I know of that can do this. I find him extraordinary in this regard.
Can Rubio do more good as VP or as a Senator? Which job actually gives him the ability to affect more change? If it's just about taking a step towards the presidency, I don't think it will matter in his case. He has is already presidential material.
We supported Marco Rubio here in FL before Marco Rubio was cool. What a refreshing change that a politician would say the same thing in a living room in little Sanford, FL that he says on Face the Nation, and that he actually does on the floor of the Senate once he is elected.
Wow, what a great interview. He absolutely destroyed Bob. He spoke in a direct, articulate, non-condescending way.
These are the kind of politicians we need (regardless of what side of the aisle you are on). Direct, to the point answers to the questions asked of you. Tell us your stance in a firm manner, and what you agree or disagree with.
WTG Sen Rubio....Florida has a great one on their side..
Cudos to Rubio for his recognition of the real problem - however - you must be part of the solution, little was offered here. Incredible waste on the part of our government exists- presidential coins- these types of outrageous spending should be cut immediately. $118,000 per day + storage and new buidling. Use toward the debt, give, auction or donate them - stop this klind of waste! Not my tax dollars! Understand!
Rubio for President. 10 times smarter than the boob in office.
hikinit 1 week ago
ABC, NBC, MSNBC etc all have put their best guys to try and beat up Se. Rubio, and yet EVERY TIME he comes out a winner.
kf4wto 3 weeks ago
Rubio is an embarrassment to Florida and most of all to himself. He is a kid with some demented attitude spawned by his candy ass backers. He is a shameless shill, and we need to rid ourselves of this kind of blight.
pjamesbda 1 month ago
RUBIO VOTED FOR THE PATRIOT ACT.
rogerable77 1 month ago
RUBIO VOTED FOR THE NDAA BILL.
rogerable77 1 month ago
Scarface!!!
lefty6584 1 month ago
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A Marco Rubio-Condolaeeza Rice Republican ticket= Obama SLAUGHTER!! Shame it isn't going to happen =(
Number1Trojan93 2 months ago
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He believes God createsd us Equal but they are ousting Ron Paul from their Jewish coalition Debate He is saying is the truth These Jewish people think they can oust freedom of Ron Pauls speech in th Jewish Republican debates.I'am a American that goes back before the revolutionary war.Ron Paul is the Champion of the ConstitutionThe Jewish Coalition is infringing on Congressman Ron Paul's Freedon to debate and freedom of speech.The Jews chose this hatred of Ron Paul.Ron Paul did nothing to them.
ronpaulfreedom1 3 months ago
This Dude's the real deal...Solid!!!
CoconutCapt 4 months ago
@CoconutCapt rubio voted for the ndaa bill...taking away the basic rights of due process, of americans. I liked rubio, but was very disapointed to hear this. he is no friend of liberty.
rogerable77 1 month ago
this guy is a douche bag!
Giorginomare 4 months ago
@Giorginomare -typical, you attack the man b/c you can't attack his policy.
kielpease 4 months ago
I can't take this guy Marco Rubio seriously. First of all for being Republican. Anybody who runs as a Republican needs their brain examined. It's the party of corruption and incompetence.
And anybody who even closely associate themselves with this Tea "Party" is a moron.
celloswiss 6 months ago
@celloswiss Hey look, I found Bob She-fer! playing a stringed instrument in the Alps
xcrunner111 5 months ago
WOW THIS MAN IS IMPRESSIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
garybsg 6 months ago
@garybsg Impressive indeed :) Do you think he should be VP, Pres, or stay a Senator?
xcrunner111 5 months ago
@xcrunner111 VP first and then president
garybsg 5 months ago
@xcrunner111 If anything, I believe he should be a senator for a while, then POTUS, but there's a bad track record for VPs becoming POTUS.
dbirchle 4 months ago
I heard, Marco can not run for President cause he is not a born citizen. Don't know for sure if it's true, but he can run for VP.
41742Glo 6 months ago
@41742Glo marco rubios parents fled cuban and he was born in MIAI! he is american. he has a JD from miami
mocoloca 6 months ago
@41742Glo If that were true, he wouldn't be eligible for VP either according to the Constitution. But, he is actually eligible for both VP and Pres, a NBC under the 14th Amendment.
steveharrell2011 6 months ago
@41742Glo None of this makes any sense. First of all, he was born in the US. This makes him eligible for the presidency in principle.
If he weren't born in the US, he also couldn't be running for the vice-presidency. Duh.
celloswiss 5 months ago
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Rubio how does Perry french kiss? Rubio and others who do this - stop being Republican just to hide the fact you are gay. Even though you make your face as expressionless as you can the gay, the lisp, the gestures are still apparent, though not as obvious as Marcus Bachmann. You got married and had children; everyone gets it you’re a complete follower. Do you have to take being in the closet THIS far? America is sick of you Hoover types!
thework4444 6 months ago
This host is a joke.
bamabelle327 6 months ago
Bob got his butt kicked... End of story.
u229758 6 months ago
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The truth is a powerful foil against these hardline socialists. I just hope we have a country left in two years so good people like Marco can get us working again.
joesphx19 6 months ago
I think, Marco Rubio is hot hot hot, I would love to make love with him,
bettydude 6 months ago
When i asked him if he was going to run for Vice president/ President. He said he wasn't running because he would rather focus on Florida issues. :/
warndann 6 months ago
Why Is this guy not running for the Presidency of the United States?
Senator Rubio has offered more than anyone on at least what he has thought we as a Country need to do or start implementing in our society. wow..
zskyler 7 months ago
@zskyler He said he would rather focus on florida's issue's.
warndann 6 months ago
^^^ Reagan 2.0
ypalenz 7 months ago
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As a Tea Party member, I believe wealthy people should NOT be on Medicare, VA and Social Security. It should be strictly for the needy. I believe in a flat income tax rate for everyone and a national sales tax would be good so crooks and people paid in cash would pay taxes. Europe has national sales taxes as high at 16-20%. I hope America won't have to go to those extremes.
vechorik 7 months ago
MARCO RUBIO FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ikelee1665 7 months ago 17
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Rubio is just another pandering politician who talks a good game about liberty and freedom and is the exact opposite. He is another long line of fraud Neoconservatives who want to send other peoples men and women to war to die when he never served himself. Not to mention he supports the highly unconstitutional Patriot Act which allows federal agents to write their own search warrants in violation of the 4th amendment. Not to mention he supports Obama's illegal war in Libya.
rmccay88 5 months ago
@rmccay88 You know, I disagree with the kind of language used in your post...it's unnecessary, but I see your point. I'm gonna think it through. OK?
larksong77 3 months ago
God Bless you Rubio. You say it how it is.
zaf511 7 months ago
@nullthesilence I am no fan of Clinton, He Reagan, Bush 2 and the various Congresses are to blame for the housing bubble, the trade imbalance we have now and our jobs moving overseas. The middle class and poor are strapped. If they had it easier then I would say yes. But the wealthy are making double digit increases year over year, they have the access to politicans to influence policy and our tax code, trade policy and dereg of the past 30 years is a testiment.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@nullthesilence I hate capital gains as a way to make sure salary is not hidden inside the company. If we can get rid of it and do something else. So much the better. 40K can work in some areas but in most areas where there are high numbers and people (IE jobs) 40K is a unaceptable amount to make especially if you have a family and hope to have a good family environment where the parents are active and kids are not simply dropped at daycare.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@nullthesilence The areas were we need to spend more are transporation infrastructure, Energy, technology, communication and manufacturing infrastructure. Plus we need to reform education so education works to make people competitive in the world market. But we do need cuts in many areas, including defense, corp welfare.. we need changes and cuts to SS, Medicare and Medicad.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@nullthesilence Here is how I know. You the employee are not the end user of HC, your employer is. So the rules of capitaism do not apply in this dynamic. I have personal stories to tell you about how in right to work states. the Employer -Insurance dynamic has ruined famlies. There is no incentive for a company other that to turn a profit. It is in insurance companies interest to not pay claims to cover the 30% overhead they bring to the table.
DWDave67 7 months ago
HERO!!!!!!!!
hispanicconservativ1 7 months ago
@nullthesilence Saddam never went to school in the US nor did we subsidize his education elsewhere.
Saddam was never a friend of the US. He received a limited amount of support in the war against Iran (so did Iran) but he was never a friend.
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen We supported Saddam by selling him weapons, providing intel when we were engaging that who "enemy of my enemy is my friend" BS. There was a deafening silence from Reagan when Saddam used chem weapons that we, the French and the Germans sold him on the Iranian army. Stick your head in the sand if you must for ideology sake but that is the record. Rumsfeld even helped broker those sales in the 1980s.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 We did not sell him any weapons, chemical or otherwise.
Rumsfeld was there to discuss reestablishing diplomatic relations.
You are entitled to your opinion, not your own facts.
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen @nnjhansen @nnjhansen CBS News,The NYT, PBS Frontine, The GAO under "dual use" seem to discredit your absolute positivity on the matter.
National Security Decision Directive (NSDD) 139 of April 5, 1984, "Measures to Improve U.S. Posture and Readiness to Respond to Developments in the Iran-Iraq War," . The directive calls for "unambiguous" condemnation of chemical weapons use, without naming Iraq, but places "equal stress" on protecting Iraq from Iran's "ruthless and inhumane tactics.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 "Dual Use" is a very broad term. What specifically did we sell them? Civilian helicopters that "could" have military uses? Computers? I fought against the Iraq Army twice, never once did I encounter an American weapon system.
Exactly what do you believe NSDD 139 says that supports your argument?
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen It tells much... because offically, We sold the Afghans no weapons in their fight against the Soviets right? Do you think we played a heavy role in making sure those weapons got there to the rebels didn't we? Same thing here in Iraq. Saddam was scum... everyone knew it but he was our scum doing our bidding against the Iranians.If you want to believe St Ronnie wasn't involved... sure thing. I just have enough gov experience to know better.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 He was NOT our scum. He was a Soviet client for most of his reign.
Do you have any examples of the weapons we allegedly sold Iraq? Every time I looked at their OB, it was full of Soviet and some French weapon systems.
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen Amazingly the Afghans didn't have any American weapons either... amazing isn't it? And he was our scum...Saddam was a wild card so after the USSR was done Bush 1 conveniently made Saddam our next boogeyman aftyer our diplomat to Iraq told him that regional land disputes "were none of our business" and saddam was stupid enough to think that was the green light to go into Kuwait. Saddam was a pawn of both the US and USSR.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 Except they DID have American weapons, the Stinger anti-aircraft missile system that was so important to their efforts were American.
The Iran-Iraq War was not after the fall of Soviet Union. Saddam's Iraq was firmly established as a Soviet client until well after that war concluded.
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen Are you really that naive? We sold that weapons system to countries across the globe. The US never sold those weapons to Afghanistan's freedom fighers... they found their way into the theater via covert 3rd party means. Do you have the US military sales slip? The Iran-Iraq war went from 1980-1988. BEFORE the fall of the USSR. Please let me know when you know what you are talking about. Thank you. I am done with your lack of historical/political knowledge.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 Stingers were not available on the world market at the time (See multiple news accounts regarding release of Stingers to Afghan rebels dated 31 Mar 1986). The only place they came from was the US through Pakistan.
Are you having trouble comprehending what I write? I said, "The Iran-Iraq War was not after the fall of Soviet Union." NOT after the fall means before the fall.
nnjhansen 7 months ago
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governmentofpeace7 7 months ago
Why not start with abolishing all these FDR-like alphabet soup agencies that clearly do not work?? EPA, Dept of Ed, Dept of Energy, ATF, Homeland security, TSA, Indian Affairs, OSHA, HUD, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, NPR, etc. I am sure the individual states can do without all of these federal programs.
jcomd 7 months ago
@jcomd Go to china... see how well having no regs on the environment works for them. They also have no unions whatsoever so they get paid pennies and work in bad conditions. Is that what you wish to emulate??? Really??
I really do wish conservatives could for once get their ideological heads out of their buts and see the bigger picture.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DankWIn. I am the same age as Schieffer, and during the '60s he and I shared the same politics: liberal Democrats suspicious of LBJ and dismissive of the politics of Barry Goldwater. Schieffer has not changed his opinion,indeed he has become more liberal. Rubio is right to challenge him.
JRobbySh 7 months ago
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This guy sounds a bit like a fool
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Someideasandstuff 7 months ago
@Someideasandstuff now now, show a little respect. i suspect mr. schieffer is old enough to be your grandfather.
DankWin 7 months ago
@DankWin I was talking about Rubio
Someideasandstuff 7 months ago
wait wait wait...I thought the democrats had a monopoloy on hispanics, blacks, the middle class, etc.??? that is dead wrong -- yet they continue to try to brainwash the nation to think this is so. I am a middle class republican. I think the difference is that republicans would like to give the middle class the opportunity to exit the middle class and aspire for greater things (people > govt)...whereas the democrats would like to keep you where you are, dependent on government (govt > people)
vhopson 7 months ago
@vhopson monopoly, that is. Love Rubio!!!
vhopson 7 months ago
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ExUnoPlures 7 months ago
This guy is amazing.
He will be President someday.
Fact
When you contrast Rubio with Obama by way of seriousness it is stunning. We have a petulant child running the country. Thus, the economic romper-room!
A wet towel in the oval office would be better for America's fiscal future.
TheAtheistAntidote 7 months ago
With only half of americans working and paying taxes, it's no wonder we are in the hole. We will never resolve our national debt problem if the other half of americans does not return to work and contribute to the tax system. Any other means of getting more tax revenue is artificial and will do harm in the long run.
epw0003 7 months ago
How come I'm still hearing about Bush from those of the liberal persuasion when Obama is running for reelection after having spent more money than Bush with absolutely nothing to show for it? Even now, where is Obama's plan? Raising taxes won't raise enough money. New taxpayers would, however. Let's focus on the real problem. We need more revenue, but let's get it from attacking unemployment and not punishing the job creators and 51% of taxpayers already footing the bill.
epw0003 7 months ago
Actually you LIBERAL assholes... It was CLINTON who started beating the drums of war. It was CLINTON who said Saddam has WMDs and needs to be stopped.
Liberals are so out of touch with reality and yes, Obama is the product of liberals telling him he is soooo articulate. The ends result of a subpar student having his ass kissed for being black. A shell of a true leader.
DIYcomedy123 7 months ago 13
@DIYcomedy123 He didn't get us into two wars and START our gaint debt.
Charlie12241 2 months ago
@Charlie12241 Oh, you mean the very wars that ALL of your democratic heroes voted for? Please... This crisis has more to do with your liberal heroes forcing banks to make loans to crackheads named Jameel. Your liberal policies are ridiculous and NOT good for this great nation. Fuckin bum ass culture of whining and living off the backs of WORKING americans.
DIYcomedy123 1 month ago
@DIYcomedy123 I never said I was a democrat. No politician is my hero, because they are ALL lying assholes who only care about themselves. What proof do you have that banks are forced to do anything by anyone? I don't have liberal or conservative policies because liberals and conservatives suck dick. Since when is telling the truth "whining"? I am a working american jackhole.
Charlie12241 1 month ago
@Charlie12241 LEADERS NEVER have icy shoulders and shrug off blame, you think Commanders in the Military act like this? FUCK NO! I worked with many officers and they take responsibility with what they have and change the hand they were dealt with.
jkutnink87 4 weeks ago
@jkutnink87 So knowing some commanders are responsible means they are all responsible? Sure. I should quit interupting your tea with Alice in Wonderland.
Charlie12241 3 weeks ago
What an incredible man! So Blessed to have him as our Senator! Fellow Senators and Mr. President, do what is right and good for our country, please!!!! Listen to what he says!
This is no game Mr. President! Stop with this foolish behavior and get your nose out of the air! Your arrogance has sickened us! In my life, I've NEVER seen anyone even close to you. I have NEVER heard an elected official that speaks as poorly as you do. WHERE IS YOUR PLAN MR. PRESIDENT?
CrackersNCheeseIowa 7 months ago
"When people tell you that Communist China is a better place to do business than America, you know you're in trouble." What system gave these "people" the opportunity to gain their wealth? Why, in a time of war, did Bush and the GOP-led congress CUT taxes for them? Why won't they contribute 3% of their wealth toward solving the problem? If increasing their tax rate "kills jobs", then where are the jobs that their current rate allows them to create? Why aren't they creating them now?
MickyRicardo 7 months ago
The debt was transferred onto the books of the American taxpayers by the 'investment' banks on Wall St to write off their debt. No one in DC is punishing them or changing the way they do business. Rubio exposes the ultimate goal in his last sentence, that is to convert the US into communist China. They want complete deregulation so that the air is unbreathable, the water undrinkable, and the labor force are reduced to living in company towns, enslaved to the corporation. On that he is clear.
MickyRicardo 7 months ago
Finally someone put this Liberal in his place! This guy should be President not this Lie that we have in office now!
chino1922 7 months ago
Thats the problem.. as Reagan,Clinton and Bush 2 plus their respective Congresses deregulated the banking/credit and mortgage industries, passed NAFTA and other bad trade deals, gave tax cuts out like candy while increasing spending and engaged in wars of want... People in this country are woefully uneducated as to the consequences of these actions. Now there are no more games to play. We need cuts, tax increases on the rich and a change in trade/foriegn policy.
DWDave67 7 months ago
Scare tatics! The Democrats are pathetic! 3 bailouts no jobs and they will still foolow him to hell!
chino1922 7 months ago
Its the debt stupid!
bydesign001 7 months ago
I Believe This Was A Video Clip Of CBS News' Face The Nation With Bob Schieffer's Report On Sen. Marco Rubio Of Florida On Sunday Morning, July 17, 2011.
radiodj1520 7 months ago
A born leader. He needs to run. He would trounce Obama.
pxjanders 7 months ago
@whimywimp: What is it with conservatives who only see RAISE TAXES when what I said was raise taxes on the rich, CUT SPENDING... Let me repeat CUT SPENDING... and it case you missed it the second time... CUT SPENDING and fix our trade problems. Rubio is just another GOP talking point empty suit. When Rubio takes his own party to task for the past 40 years... I'll listen.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 Maybe because conservatives understand that no one ever got a job from a poor person. That 'the rich' already pay virtually all the federal income taxes now. That there are not enough rich people to make a meaningful dent in the level of overspending we are currently engaged in. That 'the rich' will simply restructure their lives to avoid paying punitive levels of taxation.
We have a spending problem, not a revenue problem.
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen Furthermore... the wealthy do not drive the consumption based economy we have now. The middle class and poor do. When conditions favor starting up a production facility in Mexico or China because workers are paid pennies on the dollar its not good for the US, that is what NAFTA and other bad trade deals have done. We have a spending priority problem and a revenue and trade problem and they are all connected. Free trade is bad for this country. We need fair trade.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 Define "fair" trade. Is it good that I can go to the store and buy inexpensive goods? Yes, it improves my standard of living. Would I be better off if those inexpensive products were kept out or made more expensive by tariffs? No, I would not.
The only real and meaningful definition of fair trade is one in which one person can enter into a contract with another to purchase a good or service at mutually agreed upon and beneficial terms. No governmental involvement.
nnjhansen 7 months ago
Every time Rubius Magnus speaks, a liberal is sent screaming for cover.
Proud to have this guy as a Senator!
RushLimborg 7 months ago
What Bob Schaefer really meant when he signed off, was;
"Well Senator, the clock's run out and you're telling the truth that my bosses and the DNC doesn't want the American people to hear, so I'm going to have to cut you off so we can spin this against you and the Republicans later".
divisioneight 7 months ago
Definitely Presidential material. I was glad I never heard umm, ummm, ah, ah, ah, umm, ah. Articulate and obviously believes what he has to say. Wish we could clone him by the hundreds.
airdebster 7 months ago
whoever gets this guy on the ticket will be our next President.
1222brizea 7 months ago
The other thing that they fail to explain is once they steal the 1 trillion that they are slobbering over, what is going to happen to the unemployment rate which is the biggest since the Great Depression. All those trillions that government is pissed away served only to double the unemployment rate. Yet the socialists, are steadfast in continuing on the road to serfdom. The goal is obviously to equalize the US with the 3rd world through Cloward and Piven.
whimywimp 7 months ago
I wonder when either party will get serious? The GOP raised the debt ceiling 7 times under Bush and it was done without any fanfare. This is just political thether by the right for 2012. They have no interest iin helping the country right now because if the economy gets better. The GOP loses. That is the historical truth.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 "GOP" raised the debt ceiling and Bush pissed away 5 trillion in 8 yrs that he did not have, Which is why they were replaced by (HAC) HOPE & CHANGE. HAC pissed away 5 trillion in 3 yrs. and wants to piss away more than 12 trillion in 8 yrs. The parasitic bolsheviks are itching to get their grubby paws on the 1 trillion that "the rich" are "hording", but fail to explain how that 1 trillion is supposed cover 26 trillion debt that they want to incur.
whimywimp 7 months ago
OMG, Rubio is so clear about the GOP BS position. What cuts does Rubio talk about? None...The idiots on both sides need to realize we need to raise taxes on the rich, cut spending which includes defense, farm subsidies, oil subsidies AND get rid of NAFTA and any trade deal we have like with China where their workers get paid nothing and they have no environmental regs. Hit China with high tariffs to spur making things in this country again. Our economy as it is now has been 40 years in making.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 So your plan is to raise taxes on the job creators and raise prices for everyone? Good plan!
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen The Job creator ha!!! Hey... newsflash... the Bush tax cuts are still here... If low taxes for the rich equals jobs then why did Bush 2 create the least amount of jobs in the post WW2 era? Fix our trade problem, then your BS theory may have some weight to it.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 The average unemployment during Bush's terms was 5.3%. According to the OECD, that is in the range considered 'full employment' (4 to 6.4%). Whining about the lack of job growth when there is full employment is like complaining you have no more ice cream when you can't eat another spoonful.
We do have a trade problem but tariffs and protectionism is not the solution. Drilling for more oil and natural gas, mining more coal, growing more food are.
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen the last month Bush was in office the US lost 700K jobs alone. (When the economy was in freefall mode). During that "full employment period" you know what the #1 employer in AZ ( a conservative bastion) is? Walmart... so the so called "full employement does not tell the full story. The top 400 wage earners in America paid an avg of 16% in taxes. Compare that to a middle class person. The wealthy also control most of the welath as well.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 OK, what percentage does the average middle class earner pay in federal income tax?
What's wrong with Walmart?
The top 1% of income earners pay 38% of federal income taxes and earner 20% of the income. Explain how that is NOT their fair share.
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen 38% is their tax level but after the deductions and other dodges, they end up paying 16%... Walmart... besides bad benefits and substandard wages... absolutely nothing. Fair trdae is when you deal with other counties that have collective bargaining for workers, enviromental regs etc so we are not at a disadvantage based on wages to workers. China has no Unions, no Envornmental regs... So companies make stuff over there. Not here. Bad for the US.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 Are you going to answer what percentage an average middle class earner pays?
Are the "rich" not entitled to the same deductions as everyone else?
"Bad" benefits? "Substandard" wages? That must explain the line of potential employees for every opening.
So we make ourselves uncompetitive and then we should only trade with those nations that follow our example? Sorry but I like inexpensive quality products.
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen A family of 4 pays 4.7% and the number while on the surface seems fine, its their ability to deal with being able to afford housing, transporation, medical care and all the other things necessary to make a life in this country is severley impacted by higher taxes. If you feel they need to pay more, you are welcome to that arguement. Your other arguement seems to lend itself that we should become more like China. Is that what you propose?
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 So that would be a less than a third of what the 'rich' pay? How is that fair? Why is paying for necessary government services different than paying for food, housing, or anything else?
No, we should decide the type of nation we wish to be and understand the consequences of the decisions we make. Pretending there are no consequences or that others should pay for your decisions is not the right option.
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen Now if you want to talk about the middle class, then we also need to talk about the biggest income gap since the robber barron era. Middle class people pay a lower rate but what they do pay dramatically effects their ability to put food on the table, a roof over their head and their ability to keep the economy chugging along. The wealthy do not keep the economy moving and even if they paid the full 38%, that does not impact their lives like the taxes on the middle class do.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 Why are you so concerned with the income gap? Are you under the impression that we live in a zero sum society?
Who do consider 'rich'? What do you know about their lives? Their financial obligations?
Who are you to decide what will or will not impact people's lives?
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen Because empires fall when too much income is concentrated at the top. Its a historical fact. Obviously rich in NYC, San Francisco, LA is different than rich in AR, MS, SC but I think 250K is a good point to start if you want to generalize. Your side loves their gov services as much if not more than the liberal side. If you can show me where cuts and which cuts alone get the job done, I will listen. So far, the numbers by the right do not add up.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 Really? Examples please.
So two middle level professionals with a couple of kids in college, a mortgage payment, a couple of cars are "rich"? They can afford to send 20% more of their income to the gov't?
Start with the Ryan Budget or Coburn's plan, they are tame for my taste but are a start.
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen Ryan gives further tax cuts to the wealthy that are paying 60 year low taxes. If low taxes equals job creation then the US economy would be at lower unemployment rates wouldn't they? Trouble is, we live in a global economy now and the wealthy are building their new widgets in China or Mexico. I for one do not want the US to be like either of them. Ryan's plan is a sad joke. Too bad the GOP put themselves in a corner due o their extremist wing (the tea party)
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 You asked about spending cuts.
You are obsessed with sticking your hands deeper into others pockets.
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen Ummm no... its called fiscal responsibility and doing right by the country for the long run. Since conservatives are incapable of being fiscally responsible (see Reagan, Bush 2) and we are in the biggest economic emergency since the great depression, I think a balanced approach is better than the extremist approach. Boy I wish you were around when Bush raised the debt ceiling 5 times before the collapse that Obama had to deal with. But is sounds good that is on Obama right?
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 Sticking your hand in someone else's pocket is not financial responsibility. We have a spending problem. Federal spending is now close to 24% of GDP. The total federal spending the last year of Bush was under $2T, it is now almost $4T, that is in 3 years. We are approaching a debt to GDP ratio of 100%, it never approached anything close to that under Bush or Reagan.
This is not a Reagan problem,or a Bush problem. It is an Obama problem.
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen What you are saying is not accurate because you like many conservatives refuse to take into account the past 40 years of polcies that led up to the collapse. Whether you realize it or not, we got out of the great depression via Gov spending. (New Deal Programs and WW2) obviously we do not want world conflict to get us out of this mess but spending does have to happen. Bush conveniently left off war spending on his budgets and HC is not on the books yet.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 What policies led to the collapse?
The New Deal prolonged the Depression. The war put people to work and we paid for it afterward. The current 'stimulus' cost more than the Iraq war and was a colossal failure.
War spending is always off budget because it is temporary and should not be included in the baseline. It was still included in end of FY deficit totals. The scary part is that the Obama spending does not yet include the healthcare expenditures, they will only make it worse.
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen A combination of 1) making credit easier to obtain without the proper employement/assets to justify it. 2) Deregulation of the mortgage industry, wall street, banks 3) tax cut and borrow policy 4) Using trade deals to move the good paying jobs out of the country. 4) The Iraq war coupled with tax cuts at the same time 5) Easing of speculatory oil trading regs that allows Wall Street to manipulate pricing more than OPEC or the market..
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 1. So Fannie, Freddie, and CRA - agreed.
2. Which deregulation specifically? How did the deregulation impact the situation?
3. Tax cuts stimulate the economy leading to higher revenue. Increased borrowing is a function of spending, not tax cuts.
4. Trade improves the economy.
5. The Iraq war cost less than $100b a year. It was approx 4% of expenditures. It played no role.
6. Which trading regs were eased? Oil is traded on a global basis.
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act for one...it undermined Glass-Steagall Act, Gov is supposed to work for the people, not corporations and that is what laws are for. Obama was wrong about the impact of the stimulus, Senator Phil Gramm clandestinely slipped a 262-page amendment into the omnibus appropriations bill titled: Commodity Futures Modernization Act. That loosened the regs on speculatory oil trading and allowed traders to have greater impact on the price of oil than the market itself.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 "Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act" contributed to the collapse how? Be specific.
The laws are to protect everybody. Corporations are nothing but a collection of one or more individuals.
Oil trading is a global activity. How did an American statute significantly impact the market and contribute to the collapse?
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen The United States will have spent a total of $3.7 trillion on wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, costing 225,000 lives and creating 7.8 million refugees, by the time the conflicts end, according to a report released on Wednesday by Brown University. And for what again? Obama got Osama with a special forces team (finally) and we got rid of Saddam, our former friend who we had surrounded. (golf clap) Iran thanks us everyday.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 The US has spent $1.3 trillion on the wars over the past decade. That is not a university estimate, it is the actual dollars allocated and appropriated by Congress.
Saddam was never our friend and he was never surrounded.
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen The 3.7 trillion numbers is actual war expenditures plus the HC of the soldiers that come home and the rebuilding that we will do for these countries. Saddam, we sold him WMDs in the 80s to help fight the Iranians which Saddam started that war. Iran is to the east, Kuwait/Saudi Arabia to the (south), Turkey (north). Syria was the only semi-friend Saddam had. We had no fly zones in the north and south. Saddam was effectively surrounded.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 1. The projection of future costs are meaningless. They are projections and have played no role in creating the current situation.
2. We never sold Iraq any WMD.
3. We did not surround Iraq as we had no influence in either Iran or Syria.
4. Should we have waited until there was one?
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen Yes we did.. do a basic google search and find out yourself. Now I understand you conservatives are not so good at history or geography but Iran is to the east, (No friend of Iraq), To the north is Turkey (we have forces there), To the south is Kuwait and Saudi Arabia (We have forces there). Syria is the only relationship Saddam had and he would not go there because the Israelis would attack him.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 1. The idea of geographically surrounding a threat in the age of 21st century asynchronous warfare is absurd.
2. In order for "US" to have him surrounded, "WE" need to control all sides. We had no control over his relationship with Iran or Syria and little more than influence with Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Jordan.
3. Your $3.7T figure is a figment, it is not an appropriation, it is not a CBO projection of legislative costs, it is not part of any budget baseline.
4. No one lied.
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen Saddam had no friends on any side except Syria. and Israel is next door... the man had nowhere to go even if we wanted to start trouble. You can make excuses all you wish but them's the facts. If you have a number that includes reconstruction, HC of the soldiers who have been injured, send them...Bush Inc lied and used 9/11 to get us into Iraq. To deny that is simply a history rewrite (again) by conservatives... Any speech by Bush before the war that did not have 9/11 and Saddam???
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 Friends? Are you really that geo-politically naive? You do not have to go next door to cause trouble.
The cost of the wars is $1.3T to date. Costs of reconstruction and health care are whatever we decide to spend.
No one lied. That is not a denial of history but the conclusion of the Democratic controlled Senate Select Committee on Intelligence investigation into prewar statements made by the President and senior administration officials. Bush NEVER blamed Iraq for 9/11.
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen hmmm... how did polls showed 70% of people thought Saddam was involved before the war. Who fanned those flames??? The liberals??? No... it was GWB... every speech mentioned Saddam, Osama and 9/11. That was not by accident.
Funny, is Kuwait next door to Iraq? I believe it is. Bush knowingly used wrong statements about Iraq's nuke capabilities at the SOTU speech.
As I said, you come up with HC costs for our soldiers and the costs of reconstruction, I will listen But U have none.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 Can you give an example of the President blaming Iraq for 9/11? Anyone in the Administration? It was the Clinton Justice Department that cited al Qaeda - Iraq cooperation in its original UBL indictment and as justification for the bombing of the Sudanese pharmaceutical plant.
Bush's statements were consistent with the available intelligence..
I have none because none have been allocated, appropriated, or projected. I do not engage in pulling numbers out of thin air.
nnjhansen 7 months ago
Plus the idea of invading and occupying a country for the sole reason of they "may" have weapons is the false premise. If that was the litmus test for war, how come we never invaded the USSR? We knew they had them. And if you wish to bring up Iraq is in violation od UN resolutions... well so is Israel but I don't see China invading because of it. Bush had daddy issues... and we have to waste money, people and our reputation for Bush's therapy. Trillions are wasted.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 The USSR did not agree to a ceasefire agreement with us contingent on them destroying their weapons under international supervision, did they?
Israel is in violation of no Chapter 7 UN Security Council Resolutions. You are simply factually incorrect.
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen Future costs are meaningless except when its the HC plan right? 3.7 Trillion dollars is what Bush Inc are on the hook for starting that war based on lies and a false premise. But thats ok. So by your logic, lets invade China because I have a"feeling" that they may attack us in the future. You make no sense when you talk that jibberish. Iraq was no threat to the US to warrant an invasion and occupation. 3.7T o top of the massive debt Bush did. That is the record.
DWDave67 7 months ago
Now no more attacks on the United States by Saddam... Yeah!!! Oh wait... there were none... thats right.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@nnjhansen According to the WSJ (Not a liberal rag) without the stimulus, you would have seen another 1-3M people unemployed. It was not the magic bullet, we need fundemental changes to the economy in trade, tax and spending policy to fix it.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 As the President's own CEA wrote, “evaluating the impact of countercyclical macroeconomic policy is inherently difficult because we do not observe what would have happened to the economy in the absence of policy.”
The reality is that the stimulus failed by its own measure.
We need to remove uncertainty, reduce spending, reduce regulation, and get gov't out of the way.
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen You certainly are entitled to that opinion after that quote but the WSJ I have a feeling know a bit more than you about such matters.
Reducing regulation is what got us here in the first place. Gov has a valuable role to play as does business in this economy. Problem is that since Reagan got in Gov has been the agent of big business and not a check against its abuses.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 That is not an opinion, it is a fact. The President claimed that the stimulus would prevent the unemployment rate from reaching 8% and would result in an immediate and shard reduction in the unemployment rate. It failed on both counts.
Which regulations, specifically would have prevented the housing bubble?
Gov't is not supposed to act as a check on business.
nnjhansen 7 months ago
Oh, just so I understand... since you are a cuts only person. What do you cut and how much? Are you going to be a cliche and only cut spending that are favored by Democrats or are you going to give me something real?
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 I would raise the retirement age for SS and Medicare and move them both to private plans as quickly as feasible. I would end the Dept's of Energy, Education, Labor, HUD, Agriculture. Phase out farm subsidies. End all energy subsidies. Block grant medicaid. Across the board cuts (20%) to all non-defense departments and agencies.
End baseline budgeting. Every agency has to justify existing levels of funding every year. No automatic increases.
Is that enough?
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen With you on the raising of Retirement age...Private plans won't work... Insurance companies make money by collecting more in premiums than they pay out in claims... The elderly would be a deal breaker...Disagree on Labor, Education.HUD, Agriculture...Agree on farm subsidies and energy subsidies... Defense needs to be cut by 400B a year. Eisenhower was right.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 Why won't private plans work? They worked prior to 1968
Which missions would you relieve the military from performing? No more defense of Korea? How about the sea lanes?
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen Because the private sector as it is now is is not capable of providing care as an industry. before 1968, big business was not involved with HC as it is today and the end user of HC was you, not your employer so the market was allowed to work, then we have to talk about the fast food revolution and what it did to food production and human health. Europe, Japan, Korea, Israel, Middle East, Persia... bring them all home. World police no more.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 The biggest entity involved in healthcare and the biggest distorter of the market is not 'big business' it is government. Get rid of that and you will be amazed how well the market works.
So are you saying we have no interests anywhere in the world?
nnjhansen 7 months ago
@nnjhansen HC is not a widget. HC is out of control because of insurance companies and employers colluding together to put cost before care. A company only mission in life is to make money and since the company tells you what doctor you can see and what is covered. A single payer system where the company, gov and individual pay a % and the goal is prevention is best. Interests is one thing... BS like Vietnam and Iraq are another. Huge blunders in money and blood.
DWDave67 7 months ago
@DWDave67 Health care is a service no different than any other service. Employers are involved because of government policy. Insurance policies are private contracts that you are free to to be a party to. If you do not like the terms, don't sign on.
Your health care is your responsibility, not mine, not your employers, and not the government's.
What interest do you believe we have in the world that we need to be prepared to defend?
nnjhansen 7 months ago
Bob is out classed bassed on his ideology or was that Obumer stating those terms.
NO leadership on the president. Obamas main focus is create kaos in Saul Alinsky mode and never answer direct question
Yet obama's failures are hidden in the media, no tough question from the liberal slant media. We're are waiting fare and equal treatment but if not...a message will be sent come 2012/
Zonly1 7 months ago
This guy is a leader not just a politician. Take that Face the Nation! Let's Face the Facts. The Facts are the President's agenda is Marxist!! What better way to bring on anarchy in America, help to push the economy into meltdown and blame it on the bad old GOP. ALL YOU POLITICAL PARTIES ARE CORRUPT, both the Jackasses and the Elephants. The TEA Party candidates can only get into government through one party or the other.
vpertoso 7 months ago
WOW! He said it all and to the point. It is nice to have someone tell the honest truth.
quizerry 7 months ago 2
Articulate, accurate, specific and passionate!! If he gets some executive administrative experience under his belt and he will be real presidential material.
Entelex 7 months ago 12
He'll if we all worked in china we would be making 37 cents a day
balk37 7 months ago
Awesome.... this man is a ROCK STAR!!! Keep up the good fight Senator Rubio!
sailorsteve56a 7 months ago 8
Bob is such a douche bag. No surprise he resorted back to the "blame Bush" rhetoric.
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tshngreen 7 months ago
Wow!!! How is it possible for a politician not to speak from both sides of his mouth. The guy has the full package to lead America. At least he does not sugar coat and tell lies like the present incumbent.
CherCherico 7 months ago 2
He has a lil' bit to go before he reaches the achievements of the guys on the Top 10 list on my channel.
yadig2012 7 months ago
When I first heard of Marco Rubio, that he was a rising political superstar, I scoffed. But after each and every speech I've heard from this guy, my respect meter goes up a big notch. This interview is no different. I now understand how Marco Rubio has gained popularity -- it's his ability to cut through the mess and see things for what they are. More importantly, he has the common sense to see the solutions. If he ran for president, he will have my vote.
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Flyyyy 7 months ago
@Flyyyy I don't know why you're making posts and then removing them. But I identified this "removed" entry as your response to me because it was removed just 2 minutes ago as of this viewing.
Good politicians have to be more than just truthful. They have to be able to communicate succintly and cogently. Marco Rubio is one of the very few I know of that can do this. I find him extraordinary in this regard.
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tshngreen 7 months ago
Can Rubio do more good as VP or as a Senator? Which job actually gives him the ability to affect more change? If it's just about taking a step towards the presidency, I don't think it will matter in his case. He has is already presidential material.
yellowbird500 7 months ago
WOW!!! And all of this interview without a single note pad!!! Made old Bob look pretty stupid!!
wdh388 7 months ago 2
We supported Marco Rubio here in FL before Marco Rubio was cool. What a refreshing change that a politician would say the same thing in a living room in little Sanford, FL that he says on Face the Nation, and that he actually does on the floor of the Senate once he is elected.
danacse 7 months ago 2
Rubio makes Obama look like a pair of clown shoes.
ConservativeResponse 7 months ago
Wow, what a great interview. He absolutely destroyed Bob. He spoke in a direct, articulate, non-condescending way.
These are the kind of politicians we need (regardless of what side of the aisle you are on). Direct, to the point answers to the questions asked of you. Tell us your stance in a firm manner, and what you agree or disagree with.
WTG Sen Rubio....Florida has a great one on their side..
RichA7CV41 7 months ago
What a great interview. I think this man has a great future in front of him. Don't screw it up.
Namesure1 7 months ago 2
Cudos to Rubio for his recognition of the real problem - however - you must be part of the solution, little was offered here. Incredible waste on the part of our government exists- presidential coins- these types of outrageous spending should be cut immediately. $118,000 per day + storage and new buidling. Use toward the debt, give, auction or donate them - stop this klind of waste! Not my tax dollars! Understand!
oneskym 7 months ago
Marco left Bob spluttering and befuddled as the old man he is.
Are we witnessing the future president of the United States?
kurthanson2005 7 months ago