Who is Tom? It was already fully written and described I feel, he was a man in the forest, in such harmony he had power. Tom is who we want to be, happy and free, and just a guess, but I would bet he is is fond of the pipe weed too.
@nerofoxkrell But I'm afraid that if they added him into the movies, people would have been so confused, because Tom Bombadil is a confusing, complex, and odd character.
I hate to jinx it, but I think it's worth mentioning that this video has 16,000+ views, 0 dislikes, and what I consider to be exclusively positive comments. The power of Tom Bombadil is great indeed. He even suppresses youtube trolls! (hats off to you TB fans)
@Kotlettbengt He wrote only the lyrics. They can be found in the chapter "The Old Forest" in The Fellowship of the Ring; Tom sings them when we first see him encountering the four hobbits during the Old Man Willow episode.
@BooksandMoreMe Ok, thanks :) Now, out of curiosity, because I assume you're a fan of the books as you know where to find the song: Do you like that they've set the poetry to music or do you prefer it as poetry without music?
@Kotlettbengt I do like them set to music. They are songs being sung in most cases, but, obviously, musical score was not included with the books. I believe the Tolkien Ensemble did a marvelous job of interpreting the lyrics.
@BooksandMoreMe I like some, but others... I just cant take them in, hehe. Maybe because when I used to read the books I would sing them my way, so I like the ones that match what I sang when I read... And this one matches all the way, hehe
@Vidyadude If you look at the behind the scenes trailers on Peter Jackson's FB page, you will find that they confirm that old Tom is indeed making an appearance,
@Vidyadude Unless they allow a *plot hole* and introduce Tom before he has ever made an appearance, we will not see Tom Bombadill. He shows up in Lord of the Rings, and Blbo's story (The Hobbit) occurs fifty years before the LOTR. I was VERY disappointed to find that this scene in the books was one of the cut scenes in the movie, but I can see their point! It was a LONG movie, and that would have made it another 2 hours longer ! (I'd've sat through it, though, how about y'all ??? )
No one know who Tom Bombadil really is or if he is even anything more than just Tom Bombadil. As curious as I am myself, just leave it there, guys. It is better that way :)
@amazeroth Exactly, not even Gandalf knows who or what Bombadil is. He just is. Hell, he might even be an angel, due to the power of his music over the plants. As the Angels of Middle earth created life via song.
@SavageBezerkEclipse Uh...Do you mean one of the Valar or the Maiar? Gandalf, Sauron and Saurman are Maiar where as Morgoth was Valar. Tom is not either in my opinion unless he is as rumor suggests and that is that he is Melkor the Destroyer how he should have been.
@edemardil Valar probably, Their singing had power and created things, thats why I suggested it. Toms singing has power over his domain. He might have some of the Valar power or be a lesser Valar..you never know .
I would say Tom is Creation in itself as it is often stated that he came before everything. Either that or he played a big part in creation as such. It is just that neither Gandalf, Elrond, Glorfindel or any of them knows. He is beyond any of their knowledge.
@xxXMastahXxx I agree with you... I think Tom had more power than what Gandalf, Elrond and Glorfindel knew. It's like Treebeard saying he was the oldest in Middle-Earth, Tolkien stated that that was what Treebeard believed, correctly or not (although it wasn't). I know Tolkien said that Tom and Goldberry weren't Aule and Yavanna, but they were pretty darn close IMO. (Also some of the discrepancies in Tolkien's writing were due to his extreme disorganization- losing his notes, etc)
No one can verify what Tom actually is I vote earth/nature spirit, Glorfindel states that Sauron could destroy the hills and therfore defeat Tom and if he is "first" before the coming of Melkor and the other Valar how could he be Maia? The Eru theory is just bleh, totally out of sync with the lore of Arda.
@America2470 I'm with MotiCompleto008; I would like to know where to find that info. I am always happy to learn more about anything Tolkien's written.
@BooksandMoreMe If you don't mind reading alot, there is this awesome essay by Gene Hargrove. Called, Who is Tom Bombadil. it's well written and is very interesting. But Tom Bombadil is and always will be an Enigma, which keeps us talking about him. And I think Tolkien knew that would happen, thats why Tom is one of my favorite characters. :)
@dsriharsha It's only a theory my friend. He might be the spirit of Nature itself, thats why Goldberry is his wife. But Tom said he was in Arda before the first came, meaning the Vala. So this might add credence to the thought of him being the spirit of Nature. Or one of the nameless things that were borne in the first acts of the Ainulindalë just not an evil crazed one what eats the Earth's roots.
I'm afraid not. If he was Eru wouldn't he have a place in the Council of the Wise?
Yet Gandalf said there would be no point in inviting him since he wouldn't come and wouldn't understand the nature of the situation. Lack of understanding is hardly something we would credit to the omnipotent and all-knowing creator of the universe ;-) The RL fact is that Bombadil originated in a different story and Tolkein transplanted into LOTR. Lore-wise, I'd say a nature spirit.
@Cathain78 I don't know. There is a certain sense in which I think one could rightly say that god doesn't understand the affairs of men. Nothing can be very pressing for god: he doesn't have deadlines and he can't be worried or doubtful. It's not a lack of understanding in the sense that god is ignorant; it's a lack of understanding in the sense that god would not share in our anxiety or in the felling of a pressing need to accomplish something.
Interesting comments. There's two ways of looking at this. If we are speaking of Eru in Tolkein's universe then that might be the case, but he isn't the only being who would share that view. For instance oldberry seems similarly unconcerned and we might expect many of the Maia to not share the same worries and anxieties that affect mortals. In a RL view, it's different. However, from a Christian perspective since God became incarnate, then he shared the same traits & concerns as Man.
@Cathain78 The question of the implications for the incarnation is (1) hotly contested in the history of Christian theology and (2) not simple to resolve. It's very hard to read Jesus in the Gospels. The Jesus of John and Mark in particular is quite aloof in a certain way and it's quite easy to imagine that this is a man apart for whom normal kinds of concern are insignificant. That's some of the point of conversations about, for example "lilies of the field". And that's just in the Gospels.
@Cathain78 Apart from the Gospels, it's hard for me to imagine Christ being consulted for a mission like that of the war of the ring. Again, the sense in which I am saying "God does not understand" in Christian parlance would amount to saying that God shares no part of man's depravity, and while he surely is not unaware of it, it cannot be for him what it is for man: Christ does not need to redeem himself.
@America2470 I´m so sorry, but Tolkien said once,that Tom Bombadil isn´t Eru but he never said what Tom Bombadil is. Maybe he is an Valar, who was never in Valinor.
I hope there is no fail in the text cause I´m an German one.
@Eledian14 In one of his letters, Tolkien referred to Tom Bombadil as the spirit of the vanishing countryside. He seems to be some sort of nature-spirit, perhaps one of the Maiar, but unaffiliated with any of the Valar.
@ManWithoutAnyLuck No one truly knows about Bombadil.. Not even Tolkien. He said: "Some thing should remain a mystery.. Even to the writer." Bombadil was meant to be an enigma.
@America2470 - No, he's not Eru Iluvatar. And he's not a Vala. Or a maia either. he's something else.. I think, if Tolkien could hear us, I'm pretty sure what he would say: "He is the embodiment of Nature itself." Tolkien loved trees all his life, and he hated machines. Tom is simply his way of saying "Don't mess with Nature, or it will fight back!"
@DemiathDoomhammer - I like your theory, but I think that Tolkien left Tom as an enigma for the reader to decide what or who he is. Some say that he is Eru but has basically given up due to of all of the corruption in the world, that is why he resides only in his forrest. I don't even think Tolkien knew for sure what exactly Tom was so how can we, mere readers of the most epic books in the world presume to know what the author who created them did not? Either way I think each person must choose
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hatloverxxx 11 hours ago
@eliasschmisi i know iv read the book several times i messed up what i was trying to say sorry
nodice4423 2 days ago
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nodice4423 2 days ago
Probably one of the most interesting character in ANY book.
(Grats on no dislikes BTW :D)
Puglord99 3 days ago
@Puglord99 never say that. because it has one dislike now :|
legendarygunslinger 2 days ago
sorry movies
nodice4423 4 days ago
to bad tom was not in the books
nodice4423 4 days ago
@nodice4423 you're wrong...Frodo meets him, wants to give him the ring but Tom don't want the ring
eliasschmisi 4 days ago
What a strange person ..archetype.
marioriospinot 6 days ago
Who is Tom? It was already fully written and described I feel, he was a man in the forest, in such harmony he had power. Tom is who we want to be, happy and free, and just a guess, but I would bet he is is fond of the pipe weed too.
brizzlekizzle 1 week ago
Who is Tom Bombadil? Only answer is Tolkien's: Some secrets should never be revealed, even in an fantasy-world.
TalarOun 1 week ago
Tom Bombadil is a cheesy man.
TheSillyHobo 1 week ago
@TheSillyHobo If man he be.
TheSillyHobo 1 week ago
one word... ILLUVITAR
theTROLLINGdwarf 1 week ago
i wish they didnt take tom out of the movie he would have made it so much better and less depressing
nerofoxkrell 2 weeks ago
@nerofoxkrell But I'm afraid that if they added him into the movies, people would have been so confused, because Tom Bombadil is a confusing, complex, and odd character.
TheSillyHobo 1 week ago
@TheSillyHobo I agree, I think it would have made the movie just more confusing.
amazeroth 1 week ago
you can't dislike THIS...!!! :D what a beutiful song....
SuperPowerFighter 2 weeks ago
Tom Bombadil is legend.
Videot01 2 weeks ago
I think if we can't think of Tom, then to hell with us..
Losrandir 2 weeks ago
he is fancy part of heart of middle earth
1453turan 2 weeks ago
Whilst i enjoyed Tom's appearance in the book, it always seemed rather unnecessary to me so quite understandable why it was cut from the film
LuisPBE 3 weeks ago
Who sings this?
Eneicia2011 3 weeks ago
2:42 what a beautiful voice you have Tom Bombadil!
Tobbo2 4 weeks ago
Hey Do Merry Do Me Hearties! -LOTRO
Tobbo2 4 weeks ago
Who is singing it?
opianista81 1 month ago
@opianista81 tom bombadill duh
SkaDoooche5000 1 month ago
I hate to jinx it, but I think it's worth mentioning that this video has 16,000+ views, 0 dislikes, and what I consider to be exclusively positive comments. The power of Tom Bombadil is great indeed. He even suppresses youtube trolls! (hats off to you TB fans)
stevecapizzi 1 month ago 2
i like to drink to this song makes me soo happy :DDDDDD
TOMISLAVSIMONIS 1 month ago
This is very good! :) Nice happy song!
khamomilla 1 month ago
Who Sings The Goldberry Part? o_o
Gawd She Sings With An Amazingly High Voice O_O
MrFlyingscotsman1 1 month ago
Tom Bombadil was conceived before Chuck Norris and is infinitely better.
Snagprophet 1 month ago 5
and at 2:40 it becomes the most epic song i ever heared
armeverschrenk 1 month ago
Forget Chuck Norris jokes---- Tom Bombadil jokes are in!
-It's said that only the fires of Mount Doom can destroy the one ring, but Tom Bombadil can destroy it with his bare hands.
-When Tom Bombadil goes into the Mines of Moria, Balrog hides.
-NO ONE Shall pass... except Tom Bombadil.
-The reason why Lonely Mountain is where it sits is because Tom Bombadil pushed it there.
-Tom Bombadil eats trolls for both breakfast & second breakfast.
jayoung472 1 month ago 5
best song ever
hobofred1000 1 month ago
get's all fun and tom bombadilish around 0.56
goukegirl 1 month ago
Did JRR Tolkien actually write whole songs with meoldy and everything or did he just write the texts without setting it to music?
Kotlettbengt 2 months ago 5
@Kotlettbengt Just the poetry he wrote...
nikolascend 2 months ago
@Kotlettbengt He wrote only the lyrics. They can be found in the chapter "The Old Forest" in The Fellowship of the Ring; Tom sings them when we first see him encountering the four hobbits during the Old Man Willow episode.
BooksandMoreMe 2 months ago 5
@BooksandMoreMe Ok, thanks :) Now, out of curiosity, because I assume you're a fan of the books as you know where to find the song: Do you like that they've set the poetry to music or do you prefer it as poetry without music?
Kotlettbengt 2 months ago
@Kotlettbengt I do like them set to music. They are songs being sung in most cases, but, obviously, musical score was not included with the books. I believe the Tolkien Ensemble did a marvelous job of interpreting the lyrics.
BooksandMoreMe 2 months ago 3
@BooksandMoreMe I like some, but others... I just cant take them in, hehe. Maybe because when I used to read the books I would sing them my way, so I like the ones that match what I sang when I read... And this one matches all the way, hehe
HanSollo 1 month ago
@BooksandMoreMe I love that part! i love that book too, its so awesome!
LOSTie1TREKie2 1 month ago
@Kotlettbengt They can be found in almost every chapter. THIS song is in the the First Part, The Fellowship of The Ring.
edemardil 1 week ago
Tom better be in the new Bilbo movie.
Vidyadude 2 months ago 10
@Vidyadude Where in it?
BooksandMoreMe 2 months ago 19
@BooksandMoreMe Exactly, Bilbo didn't know Tom. Tom Bombadil made his appearance in Fellowship of the ring.
Beorn better me in the Hobbit!
SavageBezerkEclipse 2 weeks ago
@Vidyadude If you look at the behind the scenes trailers on Peter Jackson's FB page, you will find that they confirm that old Tom is indeed making an appearance,
AlaiaViper 1 month ago
@Vidyadude he won't be unless they draw away from the story but that is unlikley because he isin't connected to the hobbit story in any way
TheGobbledeegoop 1 month ago
@Vidyadude He won't be.
3l3ktr0h34d 1 month ago
@Vidyadude Unless they allow a *plot hole* and introduce Tom before he has ever made an appearance, we will not see Tom Bombadill. He shows up in Lord of the Rings, and Blbo's story (The Hobbit) occurs fifty years before the LOTR. I was VERY disappointed to find that this scene in the books was one of the cut scenes in the movie, but I can see their point! It was a LONG movie, and that would have made it another 2 hours longer ! (I'd've sat through it, though, how about y'all ??? )
KatWolfdancer 1 month ago
@Vidyadude Yes, to gladly announce that he is, a very short scene of the trailer he is shown when he sits on a chair that breaks
TommorowISNAP 3 weeks ago
@TommorowISNAP That was Bombur.
Nuukify 2 weeks ago
@Vidyadude how where and when ? plz read the Hobbit
geiruhl 2 weeks ago
@geiruhl
Lot o' shit is gonna be in the films that's not in the book. Calm down.
ignorantpom 1 week ago
@ignorantpom Lol... He was just asking him to read the books before he makes dumbass comments :3
Puglord99 1 week ago
@Puglord99
Alright, jeese...Calm down.
ignorantpom 1 week ago
@ignorantpom Where are you getting the idea anybody's mad? lol...
Puglord99 1 week ago
@Puglord99
Jeese...What's with all these seething lunatics on here? Must be Tom drawing them.
Just calm down, fella.
ignorantpom 1 week ago
@Vidyadude he isnt in the bolbo book, who your thinking of is someone else, whose name i cant remember,
szrsplaythroughs 10 hours ago
Tom Bomadil is frodo. yeah think about that for a bit!
aHighschoolloser 2 months ago
Must have been really cool for Tom to see the hobbits building their place, and Bree also.
kamikaze8625 2 months ago
The Swagmaster of Middle-Earth has arrived, folks. Sauron, consider yourself screwed.
ImThatCrazyGal 2 months ago 2
bet Tom is actually Sauron in disguise wouldnt that be a twist
pompehag 2 months ago 3
No one know who Tom Bombadil really is or if he is even anything more than just Tom Bombadil. As curious as I am myself, just leave it there, guys. It is better that way :)
amazeroth 2 months ago 16
@amazeroth Exactly, not even Gandalf knows who or what Bombadil is. He just is. Hell, he might even be an angel, due to the power of his music over the plants. As the Angels of Middle earth created life via song.
SavageBezerkEclipse 2 weeks ago
@SavageBezerkEclipse Uh...Do you mean one of the Valar or the Maiar? Gandalf, Sauron and Saurman are Maiar where as Morgoth was Valar. Tom is not either in my opinion unless he is as rumor suggests and that is that he is Melkor the Destroyer how he should have been.
edemardil 1 week ago
@edemardil Valar probably, Their singing had power and created things, thats why I suggested it. Toms singing has power over his domain. He might have some of the Valar power or be a lesser Valar..you never know .
SavageBezerkEclipse 1 week ago
@amazeroth Rumor of him being Melkor aka Morgoth, how he should have been.
edemardil 1 week ago
I would say Tom is Creation in itself as it is often stated that he came before everything. Either that or he played a big part in creation as such. It is just that neither Gandalf, Elrond, Glorfindel or any of them knows. He is beyond any of their knowledge.
xxXMastahXxx 3 months ago
@xxXMastahXxx I agree with you... I think Tom had more power than what Gandalf, Elrond and Glorfindel knew. It's like Treebeard saying he was the oldest in Middle-Earth, Tolkien stated that that was what Treebeard believed, correctly or not (although it wasn't). I know Tolkien said that Tom and Goldberry weren't Aule and Yavanna, but they were pretty darn close IMO. (Also some of the discrepancies in Tolkien's writing were due to his extreme disorganization- losing his notes, etc)
ImThatCrazyGal 2 months ago
Google the 'Aino Triptych', there's Tom Bombadil.
benjidrake 3 months ago
......When people take my earbuds from me to see what im listening to, they always give me weird looks.
Mostly cuz i listen to a lot of Tolkien music XDD
BecauseGenitals 3 months ago 3
I like tom bombadil, he is sou funny^^
xBeckyxAlicex 3 months ago
No one can verify what Tom actually is I vote earth/nature spirit, Glorfindel states that Sauron could destroy the hills and therfore defeat Tom and if he is "first" before the coming of Melkor and the other Valar how could he be Maia? The Eru theory is just bleh, totally out of sync with the lore of Arda.
JORDANYATES 3 months ago
Bombadil is just a Maia, like Goldberry, Gandalf, Saruman and even Sauron.
Yannick20 3 months ago
this is the best thing ever!
Waldvogel91 3 months ago
Tom Bombadil isn't Eru. Those who say so are just humans taking things your way. And may I say, it is quite a farce. :)
Losrandir 3 months ago
Yes - Tom is Eru. hidden in plain sight. nice to hear.
foreverolf 4 months ago
Tom Bombadil is Eru.
America2470 4 months ago 62
@America2470 I would love to hear the theory behind that :)
MotiCompleto008 4 months ago
@MotiCompleto008 Theory?? No, not. FACT! He is the One or Adam and Goldberry is Eve. I have so many theories..
America2470 4 months ago
@America2470 Where did you read that fact then?
MotiCompleto008 4 months ago
@America2470 I'm with MotiCompleto008; I would like to know where to find that info. I am always happy to learn more about anything Tolkien's written.
BooksandMoreMe 4 months ago
@BooksandMoreMe If you don't mind reading alot, there is this awesome essay by Gene Hargrove. Called, Who is Tom Bombadil. it's well written and is very interesting. But Tom Bombadil is and always will be an Enigma, which keeps us talking about him. And I think Tolkien knew that would happen, thats why Tom is one of my favorite characters. :)
America2470 4 months ago
@America2470 nope. Eru literally means "He that is alone" in Elvish. Amd Tom Bombadil has a companion
dsriharsha 4 months ago
@dsriharsha It's only a theory my friend. He might be the spirit of Nature itself, thats why Goldberry is his wife. But Tom said he was in Arda before the first came, meaning the Vala. So this might add credence to the thought of him being the spirit of Nature. Or one of the nameless things that were borne in the first acts of the Ainulindalë just not an evil crazed one what eats the Earth's roots.
America2470 4 months ago 4
@America2470
I'm afraid not. If he was Eru wouldn't he have a place in the Council of the Wise?
Yet Gandalf said there would be no point in inviting him since he wouldn't come and wouldn't understand the nature of the situation. Lack of understanding is hardly something we would credit to the omnipotent and all-knowing creator of the universe ;-) The RL fact is that Bombadil originated in a different story and Tolkein transplanted into LOTR. Lore-wise, I'd say a nature spirit.
Cathain78 4 months ago
@Cathain78 I don't know. There is a certain sense in which I think one could rightly say that god doesn't understand the affairs of men. Nothing can be very pressing for god: he doesn't have deadlines and he can't be worried or doubtful. It's not a lack of understanding in the sense that god is ignorant; it's a lack of understanding in the sense that god would not share in our anxiety or in the felling of a pressing need to accomplish something.
iwpoe 4 months ago
@iwpoe
Interesting comments. There's two ways of looking at this. If we are speaking of Eru in Tolkein's universe then that might be the case, but he isn't the only being who would share that view. For instance oldberry seems similarly unconcerned and we might expect many of the Maia to not share the same worries and anxieties that affect mortals. In a RL view, it's different. However, from a Christian perspective since God became incarnate, then he shared the same traits & concerns as Man.
Cathain78 4 months ago
@Cathain78 The question of the implications for the incarnation is (1) hotly contested in the history of Christian theology and (2) not simple to resolve. It's very hard to read Jesus in the Gospels. The Jesus of John and Mark in particular is quite aloof in a certain way and it's quite easy to imagine that this is a man apart for whom normal kinds of concern are insignificant. That's some of the point of conversations about, for example "lilies of the field". And that's just in the Gospels.
iwpoe 4 months ago
@Cathain78 Apart from the Gospels, it's hard for me to imagine Christ being consulted for a mission like that of the war of the ring. Again, the sense in which I am saying "God does not understand" in Christian parlance would amount to saying that God shares no part of man's depravity, and while he surely is not unaware of it, it cannot be for him what it is for man: Christ does not need to redeem himself.
iwpoe 4 months ago
@America2470
Tom Bombadil is Tom Bombadil.
This is unique character, that can't be classified
SentinelPL 4 months ago
@America2470 Tom Bombadil is Tulkas!
SvartNezmar 3 months ago
@America2470 I´m so sorry, but Tolkien said once,that Tom Bombadil isn´t Eru but he never said what Tom Bombadil is. Maybe he is an Valar, who was never in Valinor.
I hope there is no fail in the text cause I´m an German one.
Eledian14 3 months ago
@Eledian14 In one of his letters, Tolkien referred to Tom Bombadil as the spirit of the vanishing countryside. He seems to be some sort of nature-spirit, perhaps one of the Maiar, but unaffiliated with any of the Valar.
UrogHai 2 months ago 7
@America2470 Except he's not. Eru quite explicitly does not enter Eä. But nice try.
UrogHai 2 months ago 3
@America2470 why do you think so ?
shadowsabere 2 months ago
@America2470
Really?
sartanko 2 months ago
@America2470
This is not sure. I think it's more probable that Tolkien has included himself in the story.
erasmus186 1 month ago
@America2470 Tom Bombadil is Probably Aüle
Wildolph 1 month ago
@America2470 no he's not, tolkien dismissed the idea. he is either a valar or a maia. there is no embodiment of iluvatar
alexgodfather94 1 month ago
@America2470 are you serious? i mean.. i often wondered who he is, but iluvatar himself?
ManWithoutAnyLuck 1 month ago
@ManWithoutAnyLuck No one truly knows about Bombadil.. Not even Tolkien. He said: "Some thing should remain a mystery.. Even to the writer." Bombadil was meant to be an enigma.
3l3ktr0h34d 1 month ago
@3l3ktr0h34d Thanks a lot. I often wondered but i've always forgotten to look it up.
PS: sorry for any grammatical mistakes i'm from germany and my english isn't that well as it was once..
ManWithoutAnyLuck 1 month ago
@America2470 He is?
TheIKAMUZU 3 weeks ago
@America2470 - No, he's not Eru Iluvatar. And he's not a Vala. Or a maia either. he's something else.. I think, if Tolkien could hear us, I'm pretty sure what he would say: "He is the embodiment of Nature itself." Tolkien loved trees all his life, and he hated machines. Tom is simply his way of saying "Don't mess with Nature, or it will fight back!"
DemiathDoomhammer 3 weeks ago
@DemiathDoomhammer - I like your theory, but I think that Tolkien left Tom as an enigma for the reader to decide what or who he is. Some say that he is Eru but has basically given up due to of all of the corruption in the world, that is why he resides only in his forrest. I don't even think Tolkien knew for sure what exactly Tom was so how can we, mere readers of the most epic books in the world presume to know what the author who created them did not? Either way I think each person must choose
TheCDRIVE22 3 weeks ago
Long Tom, hoppalong Fellelloello!
alitllebitemo 4 months ago
This song makes me so happy !
Esyllt14 5 months ago 38
I just love this song :D
Witchmaster1875 7 months ago
FIRST
sinjako 9 months ago