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  • i was most scared by whoopi goldberg at the end

  • I almost wet my pants laughing at this...Brilliant!! We have to laugh or we'll cry-or else go screaming down the street whilst pulling our hair out!! B.O. STINKS!!

  • listen. the whole system is screwed. we can both agree on Newton's Laws of Physics, right.  Once a system gets past it tipping point, it becomes chaotic. Thus, if something is burning it makes a straight column of smoke and then randomly spreads very fast. The economy and the earth have became over heated. Thus, once that tipping point is passed, we are screwed. Yet, we still march along everyday like life will get better. We are lost.

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  • Nice to meet you, Marie.

  • My plan to cut 2 trillion from the deficit is to cut the budget by one dollar for the next 2 trillion years.

  •  And you can get forget putting your faith in Slick Perry. He's more evil than Obomber is. And controlled by the Jews.

  • @sturmluger controlled by the jews? are you stupid. for simpleminded people like u everything can be explained by "it was the jews".

  • jews control obama

  • @sturmluger Moron. If that was true, then why does he hate Israel so much and support Palestine? Educate yourself before you speak.

  • @TheGloriousTaco He does whatever the Jews tell him. Why did he say he would veto Palestinian bid for statehood? They put on a show, smoke and mirrors, and people like you fall for it every time. Obama's mouth says one thing while he does totally different and you're the only one who hasn't caught onto that fact? Now you've been educated and can speak intelligently.

  • @sturmluger Palestine said they won't ever recognize Israel. So as long as Israel exists, it doesn't matter anyway. Can you also explain to me why organizations the government funded (Obama projects) have been found to donate to recognized terror organizations (by the CIA) like Hamas? Or the fact his buddies are fond of the Gaza Flotilla?

  • I wonder if the "Evil Empire" of the Soviet Union would have proven to be more evil than the millions and millions of deaths caused by America in South America, The Middle East or South East Asia? Just saying. I mean. As for your position on how Obama has tripled the defecate since taking office. 1. Bush drove your country into an economic ditch the required bailing out on Obama's dime. 2. The wars that Bush started were kept off the books until Obama took office.

  • @FullmetalSP1

    1 the bailout was required because of the policies pushed by the Democrates. Bush & Repubulicans tried several times to get Fanny & Freddy under control. watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

    2 Obama said he would stop the wars as soon as he entered office, thus the funding. Instead he increased the existing wars by adding another.

    If you want to understand the money aspect relating to the war & other things watch;

    watch?v=vLr2if-BdA4&feature=re­lated

  • I do like Klavan's movies but in the "corporate bailout" scene he included Ford in the bucket of crap BHO is slinging. I'm pretty sure that Ford was the ONLY big three automaker that did not take gubment money.

  • But he's an "intellectual!" Ha ha.

  • this is like two years old isnt it? LMFAO

  • Yes craptastic, I love it. The nation will not survive its fools or the fools will not survive I am not sure how this turns out but the crap is hitting the craptastic fan right now, we have had five years of domcrapic control of the government and now our national credit rating is reflecting their fantastic failure.

  • This video isn't funny, at all. And this guy is full of crap crap crap . Oh, and saying crap a lot also isn't funny... So, insert fail stamp all over this loser

  • "I didn't sign up for going mano-a-mano with the President of the United States."--John Boehner 7/25/2011

  • The guy is a genius. Thanks G-d America has them - just let's hope enough to cover the stupidity of so many.

  • It's amazing this was taped on July 23rd 2009 and not only is it 100% correct it has gotten far far worse. What amazes me, is how incredibly STUPID the American public really is. We actually have to have another election, when we could easily just kick him out and put in Mickey Mouse right now and do better.

  • Seriously, are there ANY Obama supports left who can actually ARGUE why they support Obama?

  • @GermanConquistador08 You'd be surprised.

  • @ThatHaloGuy117 I would be

  • I wonder if this guy realizes half of his party would prefer that he was still a slave?

  • not voting for a pres. because he is black is just as rascist as voting for a pres just because he's black

  • WE SHOULD GET THE ABAMANATION A BOHICA HAT. IF ANYONE DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS, BENT OVER HERE IT COMES AGAIN.

  • andrew, i guess after watching the first 30 seconds of this video, i know now why your confined to youtube.

  • OMG I don't have exact quotes which is what you want. I have too look them up which is something you can do for yourself. I told you, it's all at your fingertips. On Youtube, type Bill O'Reilley racist, Limbaugh lies, Ann Coulter sucks, etc., etc.. That way you can see what they say in full context and get a better feel for the "messages" the're all trying to get across to you. You look me up just one, I know you can do it, and I'll see what I can do.

  • why do people dislike the truth.

  • americans will search for a donkey next to be a prez after this primate..

  • The left can't give examples to back up their arguments because SHUT UP! That and there are no examples.

  • how biased was the media towards Obama? i have a friend who voted for McCain and was asked on the day Obama won the election "how are you celebrating Obama's victory?" by a news organization. she answered neutrally saying that it was a momentous election. They quoted her and said that they tried to find McCain supporters but none were to be found to comment. Bull CRAP!!

  • THIS GUY IS GOOOOD WHY NY TIMES NEVER MENTION HIM ..HUMMM .... I WONDER WHY ...

  • America stop supporting minorities around the world and start supporting majorities this may help you in your quest in world dominance respect peoples history and culture and you may succeed if you dont like you are now you will have the same fate as rome you will become a has been

  • At the recent White House news conference, Netanyahu talked to Obama like he was a confused child. Why?

    Because Obama, confused and simple, is a very public puppet who does indeed dance to the commands of his behind the scenes puppet masters.

    To modify a quote by Richard Crenna in FIRST BLOOD: "They recruited him (Obama), they trained him, I'd say that makes him theirs".

  • Love it! Great job Marie of Rumania !! :)

  • blame all the presidents before obama hope he get what bush got before he left looking foward not back just give him a chance looking for a scape goat he,s blacker than he looks

  • This video is great, humorous, entertaining, and factual and has to drive the Libtards nuts.

  • This video is great and factual and has to drive the Libtards nuts.

  • This video is great and has to drive the Libtards nuts.

  • *Obama: What a disgrace!

    To have him as an American president, this incompetent, former coke head & community agitator, with a marxist ideology who's destroying our country with his massive deficit spending and is intent on turning America into a Socialist cesspool.

  • Great viseo! but one problem, you had Ford in the same bucket with GM. Ford did not receive a bailout like GM and Chrysler!!!!!!!!! Ford did not need the money from the feds!!!!!

  • Craptastic! My favorite word!

  • 3:20--That is what is wrong with America. People who you wouldn't even trust to pump out your septic tank are in the White House. And we have no one to blame but ourselves.

  • @waltonmt Can't one of your psycho rednecks just shoot him? Would that be so difficult?

  • This Klavan fellow's tongue seems to be pretty silvery and full of crap as well. Perhaps the problem is not so exclusive to the left after all. And am I the only person who noticed the date of this post? Since when can you judge the effects of someone's presidency after only one year? Even policies put in place that first year (which is 1/4 of the time he was given to deliver on what he said he would do) won't show results immediately. Complicated systems like the economy take time.

  • This Klavan fellow's tongue seems to be pretty silvery and full of crap as well. Perhaps the problem is not so exclusive to the left after all.

  • s it just me or does Andrew Klavan talks like Ronald Reagan? And I'm not talking about the contents, although he does seem to have Reagan's wit. Similar baritone voice too. Or something like that.

  • wow!! this is 2 years old???? things have gotten much worse since then. you college student morons (or as I like to call them, unsupervised, alcohol fueled, 13th grade high schoolers) liking the change you help create?

  • We the people of the Free World will never surrender to the LUNATIC followers of Allah the MOON-god who is the Great Satan. We will wear military style clothing to show the Islamic invaders that we are ready to fight for our freedom and are prepared to sacrifice our lives in a brutal war to defend our nation. We stand shoulder to shoulder and together we march to victory. We must never forget that appeasement didn't work with the Nazis, so it certainly won't work with the Muslims!!

  • I am so sick of this media-whore shoved down my throat via t.v., radio, internet, etc. I would gladly vote for a black president if he had our nations best interest at heart. His only interest is to see how much tax payers dollars he can spend on vacations and his wife is no better, traveling with 500 of her closest friends. So don't attack me as a racist, or if I've mispelled something or say that I'm stupid or tell me how bad other presidents were. I want FACTS on the things he's done right.

  • I am saying that the world watches right wing America spew out it's bile without an ounce of awareness of how thoroughly detestably wicked they have become..

  • @calum66 How are we "Detestably Wicked"?

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  • @calum66 Okay...

    Where do we display naked self interest?

    How do we have a bias towards the rich and against the poor? Unless I recall, polls show conservatives more likely to give to charities than liberals?

    The sufferings of any but our own? May I remind you that we are covering the asses of every damn country that is on our side?

    Give me two examples of right wing lies and distortions

    Give me one example of how fox is hate mongering

    give me one example of demonization or destroying opponents.

  • @. The avowed and declared policy of the Republican party is aggressively right wing and heartless and is unambigiously declared through your megaphone Fox News (Have you seen Out Foxed) If you want examples-Bill O' , Glenn B, Rush L etc etc. Regarding foreign policy - Supporting the murderous Contras and the Killing Machine in El Salvador and Pinochet against democraticaly goverments to say nothing of the Middle East :all to carve up the world in advance procure your own interests

  • @calum66 I didn't mean examples of people. I meant examples of what they say. What have the example people you gave me said to distort the truth or lie? Who have they demonized without cause? What have they said that is hate mongering? What have they said that is biased towards the rich and against the poor? When have they displayed naked self interest?

    Really, answer what I asked, not what you wanted me to ask.

  • @wolfs9397 I don't know how I can make it any clearer.Regan deregulated the media and legalised outright desption in news media and paved the way for his pal Murdoch and the iniquitous Fox News channel . Have you seen Outfoxed. Have you watched the likes of Beck ,O'Rielly and Limbaugh in action - to say nothing of Palin etc and The Tea Party. You are all so busy protecting , without scruple ,what you think you have that before you know it it will be gone.

  • @calum66 You're not answering my question. I'm asking for examples of things that Limbaugh and Beck and Coulter and O'reilly have said, phrases that have come out of their mouths that are saying this. Give me a quote of something that any of the aforementioned people have said to do anything that you listed. GIVE ME A QUOTE, AN EXAMPLE, not an opinion like you are giving me. Is that so much to ask? I think not- that is, if you're not just saying dogma, which I think you are.

  • @wolfs9397 There is no proof - Because it has never happened.

  • @wolfs9397 Glen Beck talking about how your black president hates you and wants to destroy America- "I think Barak Obama doesn't want America to succeed". "This guy has a deep seeded hatred for white people". Heres another classic- "I didn't think I could hate victims faster than the 9/11 victims". Then procedes to call Katrina victims "scumbags" for not getting out in time. Hates 9/11 victims but not as much as katrina victims. The quotes are endless. You people need to do your own research.

  • Ok how about the other guys? Rush L et cetera.

  • @wolfs9397 Seriously, I'm not ducking, but you need to look that up yourself. You probably don't even need to leave Youtube. I GUARANTEE you will find what you're looking for. Or trying to ignore or whatever.

  • @vylet271 You see, this kind of answer is leaving me to believe that you have no more examples. Just those from Glen Beck. Without more examples, how do you prove your statement?

  • @vylet271 Obama and Cronies want to destroy Americathat is the truth! - the rest - never heard any of and I follow them all. Stop getting your incomplete heavily edited info from the propaganda mills. all you get from them is DISTORTED to say exactly what they want you to hear! So heavily edited and taken out of context!

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  • @imaginarythings Do you really thing Hitler was a great orator? I don't know about you, but I tend to put a lot of points into content, even more than passion and delivery.

  • @kingnothing1046 ~ I do too! But, Hitler was absolutely a great orator. The passion and delivery was there...Right along with his points. He rallied the Nation. He had Charisma. Hitler didn't have adds dressing him up as Hitler Man like Obama Man from the planet Krypton did...LOL. Hitler's Charisma wasn't that Media Created Crap that obama has. obama can't even start or finish a sentence without screwing it up. The points that obama make are written out in front of him. Teleprompter city, USA

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  • @imaginarythings Way to not pay ANY attention to what I was saying. So Hitler rallied a nation. Big fuckin deal. It's not hard to rally people, we're fucking stupid. The point I was making was on content, which I guess if you agree with what Adolf had to say, that's your deal. As for me, I don't care about how well a person speaks, I care about the road they walk, and that's why I will not get behind Klavan.

  • @imaginarythings Also, I feel a little leery about anyone who uses "Hitler was a great" anything. He wasn't. That's that. He was a piece of shit with too much power, and wasn't a great ANYTHING.

  • @imaginarythings I can understand how you feel. Reguardless of anything a leader either is or isn't a great speaker. Hitler (and Kennedy) have been historically recognized as an oratory genius...That is ALL I am saying. There are Many great people whom I disagree with and some I even despise, However, That cannot take away from what they were in greatness as an individual. Even though I'd rather "kick 'em in the butt" as to "at 'em on the back"..lol. ;-P

  • @kingnothing1046 If he wasn't great, how did he get to power? Every historian agrees that Hitler was one of the best propagandists of modern times.

  • @Machtyn it's because the generations are getting more stupid by the minute. Hitler won over Germany with brilliant speeches, made by himself. Obamba won because he said nice sounding things that writers behind the scenes wrote for him. He is in no way brilliant. He is an anti- Semetic moron who only became prez because he's black, and as i said we become more stupid by the generations and it leads to us voting in Obamba.

  • @imaginarythings And what is you neo-republicans' problem with the teleprompter? That's not new tech FYI. That's been used by every president since it's invention. Reagen relied heavily on it (Alzheimers). And you can't simultaneously accuse him of having a silver tongue and not being able to get through a speech without stumbling.

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  • @imaginarythings Astonishing and insightful comment! Took a look at "Bright Lights To Paradise". Ditto. "But Other Power Controllers..." Something tells me you are hip to the scheme.

    Careful what you say, dump the HDTV, and best of luck.

  • It is incredible to hear a right wing spin doctor talking about hate mongers. An ounce of self awarness would destroy deconstruct the entire republican party.

  • @calum66 SO are you going to point out where he is wrong or are you just Talking Crap?

  • The deficit will outstrip economic output - good lord.

  • HOW DARE U SPEAK ABOUT THE PRESIDENT IN THAT TONE!!

  • @House6729

    Get over it, it isn't any worse than W and well deserved!

  • take ford motor co out of the bucket. #took no gov. money.

  • wow you sir, are an arrogant idiot who deludes himself as a realist but doesn't realise how truly ignorant you really are(especially the real world outside of the conservative perception of America- i mean reagan was bloody awful). You are also a failure of an author who writes the most cheesy, ignorant, closet xenophobic ideas for books.

    Have a nice day =)

  • @rehanabey I have no reason to believe you even know what "xenophobic" means.

  • @canofsand Right, disliking what someone has written and replying by saying something on the lines of "I bet you don't know what that means," really does you no favours and makes you look stupid and it is very cliche. I'll do you favour and give you a hint of you should have responded. You say "Do you have any evidence or reason to call this man xenophobic(and you can insert an insult here- i wouldn't really mind " and then i try to make attempts to justify my point and you try to rebuttal.

  • @canofsand But my past experiences have shown me the endless, daunting and frivolous task that is to argue with people on youtube, that I wouldn't would be the mood to have another one. But at least attempting to do so instead of making a patronising remark, you wouldn't of got 2 patronising responses as a return.

    Have a nice day :P

    and btw a xenophobe: A person unduly fearful or contemptuous of that which is foreign, especially of strangers or foreign peoples.

  • @rehanabey Oh sorry, I was just giving you the benefit of the doubt. You know, by assuming you were ignorant, instead of someone who actually knew what the term meant but was a despicable liar who prefers baselessly smearing their political opponents rather than engaging in some form of rational thought or honest debate. Guess I was wrong.

  • @canofsand How am I a liar? lying about what? "political opponent"? "honest"(about what I have to ask?) -I'm slightly curious about your choice of terms. Do you just have formulaic responses programmed when you are in disagreement with someone? Are you purposely making this sound melodramatic? I just wanted to express my dislike and annoyance at the pile of arrogance that is Klavan and now I seem to be a politician or a media commentator. Firing the same old lines at random people doesn't work.

  • @rehanabey How are you NOT a liar? Only a liar or an idiot (see, that's me giving you the benefit of the doubt again, at least on the subject of your intelligence - though arguably it's better to be an idiot) would think there's any credible evidence that Klavan is a xenophobe. Yet you say he is one anyway. You can drop your sophist rhetoric, by the way. It doesn't impress.

  • @rehanabey wow.

    .....Reaganomics.

  • @rehanabey "Closet xenophobe"....that is a reckless accusation. Paranoia is something to avoid. If you have proof of his xenophobia besides mere suspicions, it would be wise to put it forward.

    Reagen was hopelessly slandered and vilified. I cannot say that I have seen much proof of any of it.

    As for your attacks on Klavan, I would propose refuting the points Klavan is putting forth, rather than merely flaming him.

    Though you may or may not have said it out of sophism, good day to you, as well.

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  • Sounds right wing with a liberal humor

  • Send him to Gitmo.

  • @Travisab1 i know hes never even set foot their, so how would he know its bad and needs to be closed

  • @maximunoutlaw32 Because he's afraid that when he finally gets caught Gitmo will be his new home.

  • The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to an electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us.

  • Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president

  • @BMWLDRider Interesting observation....and I fear it may be true. (I like the use of the phrase "prince of fools." I have not heard it before. Where did you find it? (I am an avid collector of coinages. If you coined it off the top of your head, then you have earned a great deal of respect!))

  • @SteamCenturion : I did not coin the phrase but I applied it appropriately. It comes from Victor Hugo's book, "The Hunchback of Notre Dame", referencing Quasimodo.

  • @BMWLDRider Thanks! Its a good phrase.

  • Ford never got bail out money. There is a picture of the Ford logo when Andrew is talking about companies that received bail out money.

  • I vote impeachment... I will not stand by and let some Man ruin our once great country... I didn't like him from the start, but whenever I told my buddies, or family about my views they told me I was just saying that because he was black. I always responded - Im white, so im racist by default according to the rest of the world. And explained that he was going to make things worst but nobody listened to me.

  • Barry is crap x4.2012 is coming you little socialist and you will be voted out ,even an delusional democrat should see that much!

  • I can't stand those self-satisfied looks painted on Obama, Pelosi, and Biden. They're so nasty.

  • Actually, you do most of the talking. Wouldn't you fit better as the 'Crap Talker'?

  • stupid republican

  • This guy is right on the money. Obama is the biggest piece of crap ever elected to office in this country.

    The left wing, loony ass clowns that voted for this piece of excrement are responsible for the mess we are in now.

    These ass clowns have the unmitigated audacity to come to a public place such as YouTube and just show their ass.

  • @GutpileCharlie I get it now: The definition of a President who you don't like is,"a piece of crap". By your standards, all presidents were pieces of crap because a portion of the country didn't like them. You right wingers are soooo intelligent.

  • @Velayasha ...You don't get a damn thing young lady.

    Obama is a criminal. He is a socialist. He promised to "fundamentally change" our republic. He passed a socialized medicine package that will bankrupt the country and leave us all with worse medical care.

    Where do you live? In an alternate universe?

    I would suggest that before you run off your mouth, you would know what the hell you are talking about.

    When you don't, it makes you look awfully stooooooooooopid! :-)

    Have a nice day.

  • @GutpileCharlie Bullshit. Just because you and your Tea Party don't like Obama, that doesn't make him a criminal. You haters don't even know what socialism is, yet you throw the word around like a frisbee. Almost all democrats are socialists in the eyes of right wing haters. No one calls France, the UK, Germany, and Canada, socialist countries. Their citizens have acess to free health care. It's time our country caught up.

  • @Velayasha Actually we do call France, the UK, Germany and Canada Socialist countries, but they are trying to reform themselves. We seem to be the only country in the world, right now, going in the wrong direction. Everyone else wants freedom.

  • @eyeinidas The far right thinks anything left of Ghenghis Khan is socialism. I can't even take you guys seriously when you use the word anymore. Remember when Bush was in office and the far left called him a terroist? I didn't take that seriously either. It seems that nowadays, any Prez we don't like is a "socialist", "a Hitler", " a war monger".,etc. The days when we disagreed with policy, but respected the person, are long gone. Both sides are guilty of this.

  • @Velayasha I think the whole Right Left terminology is a misnomer for America, anyway. We've been using it for a while. In some places The Right is actually Fascist, Socialist, Nationalist. The Left are Marxist, Socialist, Communist, World Citizens. See, not much difference. That's why it's so easy to accuse the American Left of being Socialist or Marxist and Nazi when they're running things and you here the same slurs when the American Right is running things.

  • @eyeinidas Please don't associate the republican congress of 1996-2006 as being "coservative". When Newt led the House it was right on target, but since '98 when he quit, the repubs were a lot of money-grubbing, vote-buying whores. AND they got what they deserved in '06. This last election, I PRAY, will wake up those representing We, the People, and they are on notice. Two years is all they have to prove to us that they can get America back where the founders wanted us, they better do us right.

  • @Velayasha You're dreaming. No one in America is getting FREE health care. It's about insurance, and you STILL pay for it. Only thing that's free is air and Obama wants to tax that too, wake up fool.

  • @GutpileCharlie It's YOU who should get a clue as to what you're talking about. In comparison to you, I'm not worried at all about looking stupid. You're not even smart enough to be embarassed by your lack of knowledge. Thanks for wishing me a nice day. How sweet of you.

  • @Velayasha Well, that's ok....I guess that just goes to show that you are in the tank with the socialist? That's ok. You've got a lot of other unAmerican ass clowns in there with you.

    You are what's wrong with this country.

    Kinda got your clocks cleaned a few weeks ago, didn't You.

    Well, it's all going to change. We are going to get rid of all the rat bastard, socialist/Marxist in government. Might take a while, but it has to be done.

    Now I would suggest you get a life.

  • @GutpileCharlie another racist inbred piece of shit, all pissed off because we have a black president, bitching from the safety of his Y2K bomb shelter, surrounded by guns and canned food. for your next performance, you're going to put a wad of skoal in your lip, grab your mossberg and force your teenage son to give you a handjob behind the chicken coop.

  • @user4014 Damn! You are a realy piece of work, aren't you?

    Noticed you just signed into YouTube so you could shoot off your filthy mouth?

    Your post just speaks volumes, just shows the world what a low life, uneducated, piece of shit you really are. To top it off, you just don't have "class" buddy, you are just a cretin.

    Not only are you in the tank for the left wing/socialist criminals, you just can't contain your self.

    Now crawl back under the front porch you pathetic idiot.

  • @GutpileCharlie I don't like Obama, but if he is a criminal he can be impeached!

  • @RecceMan90 ...I can't believe with his Chicago background, there isn't something that can be found that would sink his boat?

    You can't go through life being a socialist rat bastard, associating with criminals from the Chicago political sewer without committing a criminal act? Impossible.

    Can you say "impeachment"?

    Get out there and find the stuff that will put this ass clown out of business and send him home.

  • @GutpileCharlie At the least we all can vote against him....I am not smart enough to find his crimes. I consider he has committed treason, by the way he bounces around the world bagging on how America kicked the shit out of the Germans, Italians and the Japanese...

  • @RecceMan90 Do you really think we can last long enough to vote him out? I would like to see his smarmy ass thrown out tomorrow!

    Wishful thinking?

  • @GutpileCharlie I don't really see an option, I don't think the RINO's have the balls to impeach him!

  • @RecceMan90 ..You're probably right. They sure haven't "taken care of business" so far. I've been very disappointed with them for a long time.

  • @Velayasha .....yeah, except he's giving specific examples of Blobama talking "crap" and not just saying he's "a President who you don't like" You can't seem to make a concrete point. Why don't you quit while you're ahea...Behind?

  • @supremeala That's really funny...you telling me to quit. lol! As if your post made any sense at all. So far, the only tax Obama has raised is on the price of cigarettes. He pretty much cut taxes on everything else, including the tax cut for millionaires like you right wingers wanted. Nobody's guns have been snatched away either. You guys are a hate machine. It doesn't matter what Obama says and does because Fox News, Beck, Tea Party, Rush, will say the sky is falling every time.

  • @Velayasha Like how Obama and the left said that if we don't pass this Healthcare bill, or raise the taxes (which they did fight hard for), the bailouts, the stimulus bills, and financial bill that the US as we know it will be destoried. And to anyone who dosen't agree with Obama are hate/fear mongers. See its funny how Klavan shows how crazy Obama really is yet you call him a hatemonger for telling the truth. Its ok for liberals to do it but not people who think differently than you.

  • @ace098765431 Obama isn't on the left. Almost nobody in American politics is on the left. The US political spectrum goes from far-right through right to centre leaning right.

  • @ourben Wow just wow, you have no idea how wrong you really are. Then what do you consider center-left, communism? Please name two bills passed by Obama that was conservative. The Tea Party does not like ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, but support those who come over to the US LEGALLY. Borders are necessary they what seperate one country from other. Affirmative action is when a person gets special treatment BASED on their race.

  • @ace098765431 Affirmative Action isn't special treatment. It's designed to offset a pre-existing bias. One day it will be outdated, but until that day every time you rail against it you reinforce the argument for it. I don't approve of borders at all so, meh. The bank and auto industry bailouts are typical of US conservatives i.e. give money to our rich friends at the expense of the working class.

  • @ourben See I thought Obama was the one who wanted to bailout the big evil corperations with his bailouts plans. If Affirmative action was based on talent than race I would agree with you. So you don't want borders, ok so I guess you would be ok if random people just started to live in your house and eat your food for free.

  • @ace098765431 On the bailouts, that's exactly the point I was making - bailing out the rich isn't a left wing ideal at all. The US's left is reality's right. Affirmative Action is meant to correct the negative bias minorities are subject to. You clearly don't understand why it exists. Borders and personal property are entirely different. Read the UDHR.

  • @ourben See I could have sworn that conservatives fought against those bailouts saying that they would fail, yet the left said otherwise. See the left believes that govt can save the day by throwing money around, the right/conservatives beleive that govt can't save the day and usually makes things worse so it would be best to limit their control.

  • @ace098765431 You're not fucking listening are you. The LEFT in the US is NOT LEFT! The bailouts, which your Republicans only rejected because it was a Democrat policy, are about as far right as you can get without literally murdering the electorate.

    The left believes in supporting people that are unable to support themselves - this DOES NOT extend to corporations. Private enterprise is PRIVATE enterprise. Capitalism is not propped up by the left. Conservatives love corporate handouts.

  • @ourben See borders are used to sperate one country from other, not just by physical means but also in terms of whose laws are followed. Border is also a line of defense against terrorists who try to get into the US. See I understand why boarder exsists, and if there were no borders then extreme muslim law and North Korean law could be impleneted here in the US as well has have terrorists just walk into the US and start blowing things up with ease.

  • @ace098765431 Are you a child or a teenager that was held back in school? Terrorism is way too easy for borders to protect you from it. The truth is, there isn't really that many terrorists in real life.

    Besides, this hasn't really anything to do my objections. I'd really rather you demonstrated you understood what I was saying elsewhere before moving on to something more complex.

  • @ourben see the left wants to be more like Europe, more govt control and entitlements. See real conservatives believe in captialism that allows businesses that fail to fail and not be given a 2nd chance by the govt with the peoples money. What about the healthcare bill, and the increased govt regulation. The left wants to support people by taking money from people who worked hard and then spend it on programs that DON"T WORK like the bailouts and stimulus bills.

  • @ace098765431 IT IS NOT THE LEFT! It's a fucking misnomer to call the Democrats left. Real conservatives are what caused the recession in the first place.

    Healthcare is prerequisite to healthy society, it's a necessity and it's effectively a human right. On these grounds, a solely private market is technically illegal. The US pay more per capita (and remember, this is before public heathcare) than anyone else in the modern world. How are you calculating it's cheaper than public care?

  • @ourben We got into this recession b/c govt was spending more than what it had on programs that did not work, not too mention lying to the American people about how things are really are, Barny Frank stating that the housing bubble was not that bad and that the housing market was still strong, a month later the housing market crashed.

  • @ace098765431 No we didn't. We got into this recession because money (which incidentally doesn't exist anymore) is controlled by hyper capitalist banks. The government is just one of the millions of customers that got screwed.

  • @ourben You are very wrong, SPENDING MORE THAN WHAT YOU HAVE leads to bankruptcy. The govt took risks with our tax dollars, who do you blame the gambler or the casino? Lowering govt control means that govt can't just spend any amount of money without reasponsibility. And who is to say that cell phones are not right or air conditioning, or the ACTUAL car. What if govt forces you to buy their type of car b/c it is "good for the polar bears" even thought the car is bad quality.

  • @ace098765431 The government already does force you to buy a certain type of car. You can't buy a plane and land it on a freeway willy nilly. Cellphones are not required to survive, and I'm pretty sure A/C isn't in most places either. If it was though, companies building property in such areas should be obligated to make the appropriate provisions.

  • @ace098765431 Who said anything about spending more than you have? I was talking about reallocation of existing funds.

  • @ourben Sorry but the US privlages are not rights. If healtcare is a right, why can't a job or a house be a right as well? The US has been caring to its citizens, however people need to be able to survive without govt entitlements. Reason dictates that a person should not have to rely on govt for everyrthing. The US has spending money on programs that demand more money than what the US has, hence the massive debt and economic problems.

  • @ace098765431 "why can't a job or a house be a right as well?" They both ARE rights. People don't rely on the government for everything, you're talking a load of rubbish. The debt has little to do with spending and a lot to do with predatory lending.

  • @ourben the US constitution can only protect the rights listed in it, it can not add nor take away rights. If a law should pass that hinders a right, as stated in the constitution, then priority is given to the constitution and that law will be taken out, like the civil rights act.

  • @ace098765431 Wrong and stupid. The constitution isn't the definitive bill of rights. You need to seriously grow up a little if you genuinely want to be part of this calibre of discussion.

  • @ourben the constitution protects the rights as listed IN BOTH the constitution and the bill of rights, and no where in any of these documents lists that jobs and houses are a right. A job and a house are PRIVILEGES, things that a person must EARN though work and responsiblity if they want it, not given to you or signed to by a govt. How can one deflate the debt when inflating the currency used to pay that debt, that doesn't make any sense. A good way to cut the debt is to STOP SPENDING

  • @ace098765431 You don't understand what a right is. You have the RIGHT to work. You have the RIGHT to private property.

    As for inflation, that isn't some idea I'm pitching you, that is what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. Picture this:

    Say I owe you $100 and that $100 buys you 50 loaves of bread if I pay you now.

    If I inflate the dollar by 100% by printing another $100, then $100 loses 50% of it's buying power.

    I still owe you $100 but you can only buy 25 loaves of bread if I pay you now.

  • @ourben When you turn things in rights, that means the govt MUST supply your rights, if you want to vote, and if you are a citizen, then the govt must let you vote. If jobs where a right then the govt MUST supply you with a job regardless if you have the capacity to work at all.

  • @ace098765431 Governments don't supply rights. All they do is ensure them. Technically the right to vote supersedes government. They aren't legally allowed to refuse you that right.

  • @ourben Same thing with private property, you have the right to own it, so long as you can earn it. If you can afford to live in a house then it is your right. A right to a house means that you are entitled to have a house regardless if you can afford it or not, if you ask for a house no one can deny it to you b/c it is your RIGHT to own a house.

  • @ace098765431 No no no. You have the RIGHT to private property. Whether you can afford it is completely beside the point. A right is not a present in a little box. It isn't a object.

  • @ourben "If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare, and are the sole and supreme judges of the general welfare, they may take the care of religion into their own hands; they may appoint teachers in every State, county and parish and pay them out of their public treasury; they may take into their own hands the education of children, establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union;

  • @ourben You have the RIGHT to free speech, life, worship, bear arms, and vote ( to name a few) wether or not you excercise those rights is up to you. The govt can't provide you with these things, these are things the govt is not suppose to take away from you. The constitution is mostly about what govt CAN"T do to you, not what it can do for you.

  • @ace098765431 Exactly you bloody idiot. It's up to you to exercise your rights. It's up to you if you want to opt-out of paying for government run healthcare.

    U.S. Constitution - Article I, Section 8

    "The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States"

    What do you think welfare is?