The problem with this design is that there are to many copper wires inside the water that are facing corroxion by oxidation of copper. Of course you could try to protect all contacts of bolts and wires by covering them with a film of rubber. But that cover could not be suficient, and so you will end up facing coroxion of too many contacts. This design could be succesfull if the problem of corroxion of copper wires a the point of contacts with bolts could be solved. .
@juceagso the bolts can be tightly screwed into a cylinder which contains the solution, thus being sealed and not coming into contact with the solution at all. All connections can be done from outside the container.
i like your idea of using a computer power supply as a source for 12 Volts DC current. . Also the idea of using steel bolts. It's very original to what i have seen before. Congratulations !!
This solves two main things.
1) I don't want to use my car battery, and I don't have a 12Voltds AC generator (Battery Charger ) available.
2) I can't find apropiate pieces orf stainles steel . What can i use.
And This makes me think ..... Can i use a Power supply to charge a car battery ??
I like the Italian suit, the peacock feather but, the rose colored glasses set everything off ! I like the layering of the electrodes. With the layering in mind are you able to produce a shorter reaction chamber (takes up less space under the hood or bonnet) more gas on demand?
Salt? Are you crazy? With Salt you dont make hydrogen-Oxygen, you make hydrogen-chlorine, a lot of the salt stays in the water and combines with the chlorine from the cracked salt and make Hydrogen Chloride a lovely dangererous, corosive and highly poisonous gunk.
The gas produced will be mainly chlorine which is also poisonous.
Liquid hydrogen has a low density of 71 grams/liter. There is more hydrogen in a liter of methanol (99 grams/liter) than in a liter of liquid hydrogen.
Regular Gasoline has 44.4 MJ/KG or MJ/2.2lb
Hydrogen has 121-141 MJ/KG or MJ/2.2lb
Gasoline weighs 6.073 lb/gal or 3 KG/gal.
Try to produce 6 POUNDS of hydrogen to equal a gallon of gasoline and see how much energy it takes to do it.
This factual information should prevent others from continuing down this energy wasting path.
Hey, dingus.... first of all, we at best use about 30% of the energy stored in a gallon of gasoline. Hydrogen is WAY more combustible than gasoline. What is the most devasting bomb ever created made with.... HYDROGEN! You're trying to compare apples to nitroglycerine. duh
btw, my first comment was directed at Boyntonstu's ignorance of gasolines total inneffiency of combustion. What adding hydrogen and oxygen to the car's intake does is to increase that inneffiency. Same thing with adding about 6-8 oz of acetone to a 20 gallon tank. The acetone acts as a soluent, helping to break the molecular bond of gas. I personally saw a 4-5 mpg increase in my 97 Jeep Cherokee just by adding acetone. No, it wont hurt the engine (look at contents of Berryman's Chemtool)
I can't recommend using salt(NaCl) as an electrolyte. When the Sodium(Na) is broken apart as the electrolyte, that will leave chlorine to float around, and eventually collect with other chlorine atoms. You will effectively be producing the same chlorine gas used by the Nazis in WWII. You might want to try just baking soda, or a drain cleaner with Sodium Hydroxide in it. But be very careful with the cleaner. It can eat flesh.
I agree about the salt, but an interesting side-note is that you will also be left with a residue sodium chlorate which has useful purposes of its own.
I'm not sure if ice would carry a charge or not, at any rate, the process does create heat. As the temperature warms, the process works faster, producing more gas, but also draws more current. I've been wondering about whether steam can be electrolyzed myself.
Water Ice is stronger than Steel at -50 degrees Fahrenheit. Within temperature controlled conditions, you should be able to conduct a DC current with a crazy metal coating. Although that may just be my imagination.
I bought a computer power supply on ebay for 20$ with shipping, it has current overload protection so it will shut off automatically without ruining the power supply. Nice work!!!
Try plates, like in a car battery style, more surface area, [do the math] with lye as a catalyst. people are getting good results. Fuse everything, no need to destroy hard work.
I've found that I'm getting better results using layers of alternating (negative/positive) bolts than I was with plates for the same amount of input current. More tests are needed in the future.
A caution to anyone who considers using a computer power supply to run one of these, I find that the 'rated power' is generally a wild overestimate, and they will usually burn out almost instantaneously at even lower power if they are pushed too far. I'm finding them unsatisfactory for producing enough gas to power a hydroxy torch. I'm probably going to look into a more simple, direct method of powering the next version of this cell.
Another warning, if you value the use of your ears, don't burn bubbles when some foam has built up. . . mine are still ringing. Probably the loudest sound I have ever heard in my life.
Just an update, the water warmed up, I added too much salt, and the power supply isn't working anymore. . . I definitely overloaded it at the high voltage. I should have switched to a lower voltage when I added more electrolyte. Luckily, these used power supplies are plenty cheap, and they're great for scrap parts. I have enough left over to hopefully iron out my mistakes tomorrow.
Well, it's been a couple years, but now I have a PROPER video camera and a LOT of tools waiting around. Look forward to making some new videos soon.
venomousbird 5 months ago
this looks like fun for a weekend
crudeoilsystems 7 months ago
FFS MAN! Did you record this with a fish tank on acid?
Itsmeeman1 9 months ago
hurraay for telephones with video function....
LAME.. seems even pimps go poor at some time
Fireballofdolera 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
This video sucks. You want to be taken seriously let people be able to see it.
xtaxplayer 1 year ago
The problem with this design is that there are to many copper wires inside the water that are facing corroxion by oxidation of copper. Of course you could try to protect all contacts of bolts and wires by covering them with a film of rubber. But that cover could not be suficient, and so you will end up facing coroxion of too many contacts. This design could be succesfull if the problem of corroxion of copper wires a the point of contacts with bolts could be solved. .
juceagso 1 year ago
@juceagso the bolts can be tightly screwed into a cylinder which contains the solution, thus being sealed and not coming into contact with the solution at all. All connections can be done from outside the container.
venomousbird 1 year ago
i like your idea of using a computer power supply as a source for 12 Volts DC current. . Also the idea of using steel bolts. It's very original to what i have seen before. Congratulations !!
This solves two main things.
1) I don't want to use my car battery, and I don't have a 12Voltds AC generator (Battery Charger ) available.
2) I can't find apropiate pieces orf stainles steel . What can i use.
And This makes me think ..... Can i use a Power supply to charge a car battery ??
juceagso 1 year ago
Hey it's a Pimp n HHO! Party!
livnlarge1980 1 year ago 2
I like the Italian suit, the peacock feather but, the rose colored glasses set everything off ! I like the layering of the electrodes. With the layering in mind are you able to produce a shorter reaction chamber (takes up less space under the hood or bonnet) more gas on demand?
1foxtrot70 2 years ago
he's the HHO pimp!
nappytedd 2 years ago 4
See all 7 parts - search HHOwater4as You tube of a radio talk show to get more info to install your own system
cord950rack485 3 years ago
K Fed is in the HHO business.
davidpkm 3 years ago
Salt? Are you crazy? With Salt you dont make hydrogen-Oxygen, you make hydrogen-chlorine, a lot of the salt stays in the water and combines with the chlorine from the cracked salt and make Hydrogen Chloride a lovely dangererous, corosive and highly poisonous gunk.
The gas produced will be mainly chlorine which is also poisonous.
Oh and why are you dressed like a pimp?
doo0T 3 years ago 3
I think I already adressed the issue of not using salt, and I can dress however I want. Thanks for commenting.
venomousbird 3 years ago 4
wouldn't the salt increase the cunductivity
GamerGnome 3 years ago
i know you've probably considered this, but i would suggest a drop of nitric acid as an electrolyte.
omedefirouz 3 years ago
actually thinking about it KOH would probably be best.
omedefirouz 3 years ago
but you said you did use salt
captaincavemaaaannn 3 years ago
Great job!! keep at it!
marklorete1980 3 years ago
Liquid hydrogen has a low density of 71 grams/liter. There is more hydrogen in a liter of methanol (99 grams/liter) than in a liter of liquid hydrogen.
Regular Gasoline has 44.4 MJ/KG or MJ/2.2lb
Hydrogen has 121-141 MJ/KG or MJ/2.2lb
Gasoline weighs 6.073 lb/gal or 3 KG/gal.
Try to produce 6 POUNDS of hydrogen to equal a gallon of gasoline and see how much energy it takes to do it.
This factual information should prevent others from continuing down this energy wasting path.
Boyntonstu 3 years ago
Hey, dingus.... first of all, we at best use about 30% of the energy stored in a gallon of gasoline. Hydrogen is WAY more combustible than gasoline. What is the most devasting bomb ever created made with.... HYDROGEN! You're trying to compare apples to nitroglycerine. duh
Gonzo67Texan 3 years ago
btw, my first comment was directed at Boyntonstu's ignorance of gasolines total inneffiency of combustion. What adding hydrogen and oxygen to the car's intake does is to increase that inneffiency. Same thing with adding about 6-8 oz of acetone to a 20 gallon tank. The acetone acts as a soluent, helping to break the molecular bond of gas. I personally saw a 4-5 mpg increase in my 97 Jeep Cherokee just by adding acetone. No, it wont hurt the engine (look at contents of Berryman's Chemtool)
Gonzo67Texan 3 years ago
Outstanding,keepup the good work!!
It would be interresting to seal the top and gauge your gas output and amp input
ricktor08 3 years ago
I can't recommend using salt(NaCl) as an electrolyte. When the Sodium(Na) is broken apart as the electrolyte, that will leave chlorine to float around, and eventually collect with other chlorine atoms. You will effectively be producing the same chlorine gas used by the Nazis in WWII. You might want to try just baking soda, or a drain cleaner with Sodium Hydroxide in it. But be very careful with the cleaner. It can eat flesh.
kauboy9816 3 years ago
I agree about the salt, but an interesting side-note is that you will also be left with a residue sodium chlorate which has useful purposes of its own.
venomousbird 3 years ago
layers
venomousbird thats precisely what i thought when i saw this video.
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each bolt would be surronded with its opposite charge generating more... "current conflict" thus more gas, no?
Joe cell seems to be efficient but we need to break down the best design possible for this
keep up the good work
tagdamoon 3 years ago
exactly, finally somebody who understands the great advantage of this method.
venomousbird 3 years ago
has the tempurature got any effect? can you break down steam or ice?
rahdzhillaxxx 3 years ago
I'm not sure if ice would carry a charge or not, at any rate, the process does create heat. As the temperature warms, the process works faster, producing more gas, but also draws more current. I've been wondering about whether steam can be electrolyzed myself.
venomousbird 3 years ago
Water Ice is stronger than Steel at -50 degrees Fahrenheit. Within temperature controlled conditions, you should be able to conduct a DC current with a crazy metal coating. Although that may just be my imagination.
What temperature does Mercury freeze at, anyway?
AbeSter77 3 years ago
What are you wearing? A Zoot Suit? lol....
nasanction 3 years ago
it's not about the clothing, it's about the concept!!
venomousbird 3 years ago
you look lke v for vendetta
gammypage 3 years ago
Nice concept- Lousy video quality!
diesel9331 3 years ago
Lol, fully aware, you get what you pay for, and this film production had a budget equal to the admission price you've paid to watch it.
venomousbird 3 years ago
As a side note though, check out that kick-ass Italian suit, and the hat with the peacock feather.
venomousbird 3 years ago
I bought a computer power supply on ebay for 20$ with shipping, it has current overload protection so it will shut off automatically without ruining the power supply. Nice work!!!
adrian1167 3 years ago
Try plates, like in a car battery style, more surface area, [do the math] with lye as a catalyst. people are getting good results. Fuse everything, no need to destroy hard work.
mykol13v 4 years ago
I've found that I'm getting better results using layers of alternating (negative/positive) bolts than I was with plates for the same amount of input current. More tests are needed in the future.
venomousbird 4 years ago
Most of that went over my head, but I enjoyed it anyways. =] You have a cool voice!
laurkenn 4 years ago
A caution to anyone who considers using a computer power supply to run one of these, I find that the 'rated power' is generally a wild overestimate, and they will usually burn out almost instantaneously at even lower power if they are pushed too far. I'm finding them unsatisfactory for producing enough gas to power a hydroxy torch. I'm probably going to look into a more simple, direct method of powering the next version of this cell.
venomousbird 4 years ago
Another warning, if you value the use of your ears, don't burn bubbles when some foam has built up. . . mine are still ringing. Probably the loudest sound I have ever heard in my life.
venomousbird 4 years ago
Just an update, the water warmed up, I added too much salt, and the power supply isn't working anymore. . . I definitely overloaded it at the high voltage. I should have switched to a lower voltage when I added more electrolyte. Luckily, these used power supplies are plenty cheap, and they're great for scrap parts. I have enough left over to hopefully iron out my mistakes tomorrow.
venomousbird 4 years ago