Well, I found this Laurent Voulzy after hearing the Cloud 9 similarity also. And yeah, the bad news is the intro, verse, and lead-in to the chorus are too close for accident. (not to mention the harmonica solo) But Cloud 9's beautiful chorus is quite a bit different from Une Heroine.
And the good news is, it's nice to find out about a cool French artist. I like Une Heroine very much!
@TwiliPrincessWolf yoko kanno is known for sampling other people's music, she almost always credits them somewhere in her albums though. She's open about how she works, she makes brilliant covers and usually betters the original in my very humble opinion.
@BENebuchadnezzar Really? I haven't done any research about her, so I wouldn't know personally. Though I do agree her music sounds amazing, even if she just improves upon others. :3
with all the pain of my heart i have to agree, "cloud 9" MUST be some kind of plagiarism of this french song, doesnt matter taht cloud 9 is more elegant and resolves itself in a different way, i cant deny that the chorus and the introduction are almost identical. i also have to say that i prefer cloud 9, tha beat is a little faster, the harmonies are more complex and the lyrics are deeper, is something like Simply Red song Sunrise.
do you have the translation to this song? or a way i can download it?
yeah,it sounds like cloud 9 , but cloud 9 sounds more refined,thanks to kanno yoko. good thing people can't copyright sound waves, otherwise we wouldn't have any of these good sonngs.
I never imagine this song in a video like this...well...this song is very similar to "cloud 9" of wolf´s rain..that is because the wolf´s rain song is probably a plagiarism of this...
You're right ; I haven't heard about this anime before, but as you told me I took a look on it, and the soundtrack is nearly the same. The similarity is surprising...
It really is an excellent series, with beautiful music (it came out in about 2002?) While cloud nine..err..obviously "used" alot of this song :/(I do like how it is more "refined" though, and it isn't COMPLETELY the same.), most of Yoko kanno's works are truly her own, works of genius. :)
@Kyonkyonpanda I don't think so. I understand your attitude to her as a fan, but as a composer, I already found so many 'copies' by YK. 'Her' Cloud 9 is almost exact copy of this song (with some variations). Just a different version. And there many exist. They are too many, so it's serious, whether or not musical talent she has.
Well, the begging of both songs sound similar... but what else besides the intro is similar? For me, they are completely different songs with similar intros. Similar intros in songs all over the place.
What chorous? Which part? What minute? From where to where? I still don't see anything similar, but the intro. The rest of the song is just the same style, not the same melody.
Yes, you already mentioned the beginning tune is similar... While the verse and chorus differ melodically, they are still modified from the original... Notice that Kanno used the same climb (part before the chorus)--1:20 in "Une Heroine" and 1:35 mark for "Cloud 9... And don't forget that both songs have a harmonica solo in the middle... Yes, they are different songs but not completely... It's pretty obvious like an elephant in a livingroom that "Cloud 9" is modified from "Une Heroine"...
I don't know if you're in complete denial or what, but Yoko Kanno obviously copied this song... And I am saying this as a die-hard Yoko Kanno fan myself...
I agree with almost everything you said, but "Cloud 9" is BASED on this song (like you said, undeniably), but it's not a copy (copied and based on are not the same, though still a shame). Both songs deliver things differently.
I was kinda dissaspointed after learning of all her others songs which are also based on something else. But she is awesome anyway.
SUPERBEMENT..... VOUS CHANTEEEEEZ!!!!!
Zenaida0007 11 months ago
SUPERBEMENT VOUS CHANTEEEEER!!!!!
Zenaida0007 11 months ago
Hey ! Very well done !
I like very much this video with the lyrics in English.
C'est très réussi.
paradeeza 1 year ago
Merci @paradeeza !
;-)
HamsterJovial2007 1 year ago
Well, I found this Laurent Voulzy after hearing the Cloud 9 similarity also. And yeah, the bad news is the intro, verse, and lead-in to the chorus are too close for accident. (not to mention the harmonica solo) But Cloud 9's beautiful chorus is quite a bit different from Une Heroine.
And the good news is, it's nice to find out about a cool French artist. I like Une Heroine very much!
placidian 1 year ago
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watch it and hear the guitar after the intro (circa 1:15)
MalaTemporaCurrunt 1 year ago
I'm sure if Cloud 9 was directly copied from this, there would be lawsuits (or at the very least confrontations.)
Honestly, besides the beginning and little bits and parts of this song, Cloud 9 sounds completely different.
TwiliPrincessWolf 1 year ago
@TwiliPrincessWolf yoko kanno is known for sampling other people's music, she almost always credits them somewhere in her albums though. She's open about how she works, she makes brilliant covers and usually betters the original in my very humble opinion.
BENebuchadnezzar 1 year ago
@BENebuchadnezzar Really? I haven't done any research about her, so I wouldn't know personally. Though I do agree her music sounds amazing, even if she just improves upon others. :3
TwiliPrincessWolf 1 year ago
haha yeah I'm one of those desperately sad people who seem to wikipedia almost everything and anyone
BENebuchadnezzar 1 year ago
I actually like this song better than Cloud 9
Raechan93 1 year ago
FUCK MOTHERFUCKERS!
SoldadodeClaseBaja 2 years ago
with all the pain of my heart i have to agree, "cloud 9" MUST be some kind of plagiarism of this french song, doesnt matter taht cloud 9 is more elegant and resolves itself in a different way, i cant deny that the chorus and the introduction are almost identical. i also have to say that i prefer cloud 9, tha beat is a little faster, the harmonies are more complex and the lyrics are deeper, is something like Simply Red song Sunrise.
Contrel 2 years ago 3
It's true, her version is light and elegant (more "feminine") and the rythm is quite cool
:-)
HamsterJovial2007 2 years ago
@Contrel Cloud 9 (2003) is a sampled of a laurent voulzy's song "heroine" 2001
ownerpledge 1 year ago
Magnifique clip, comme la chanson avec une traduction en anglais ce qi est rare
Friendly
jcbellec 2 years ago
Héhé merci !
HamsterJovial2007 2 years ago
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Contrel 2 years ago
do you have the translation to this song? or a way i can download it?
yeah,it sounds like cloud 9 , but cloud 9 sounds more refined,thanks to kanno yoko. good thing people can't copyright sound waves, otherwise we wouldn't have any of these good sonngs.
^_^
FragmentCrossing 3 years ago
I actually translated the song with my own words but it can be possible to find an official translation, I think...
The lyrics were written by Alain Souchon and the music by Laurent Voulzy; try to search with these names...
:-)
HamsterJovial2007 3 years ago
It's Laurent Voulzy 'Une Héroïne'...
lilijack86 3 years ago
I never imagine this song in a video like this...well...this song is very similar to "cloud 9" of wolf´s rain..that is because the wolf´s rain song is probably a plagiarism of this...
reptilogical 3 years ago
You're right ; I haven't heard about this anime before, but as you told me I took a look on it, and the soundtrack is nearly the same. The similarity is surprising...
But the serial is quite recent if I understood
:-/
HamsterJovial2007 3 years ago
It really is an excellent series, with beautiful music (it came out in about 2002?) While cloud nine..err..obviously "used" alot of this song :/(I do like how it is more "refined" though, and it isn't COMPLETELY the same.), most of Yoko kanno's works are truly her own, works of genius. :)
Kyonkyonpanda 2 years ago
You're totally right, I find...
HamsterJovial2007 2 years ago
@Kyonkyonpanda I don't think so. I understand your attitude to her as a fan, but as a composer, I already found so many 'copies' by YK. 'Her' Cloud 9 is almost exact copy of this song (with some variations). Just a different version. And there many exist. They are too many, so it's serious, whether or not musical talent she has.
sophryu 1 year ago
actually whats funny they actually used the beginning part of this song in the first ep of wolfs rain
queenofhearts17 3 years ago
Well, the begging of both songs sound similar... but what else besides the intro is similar? For me, they are completely different songs with similar intros. Similar intros in songs all over the place.
Fhwoarang 2 years ago
if you listen to all the instrumental part and the chorus and most of the melody are exactly the same
queenofhearts17 2 years ago
What chorous? Which part? What minute? From where to where? I still don't see anything similar, but the intro. The rest of the song is just the same style, not the same melody.
Fhwoarang 2 years ago
listen to them at the same time
queenofhearts17 2 years ago
Yes, you already mentioned the beginning tune is similar... While the verse and chorus differ melodically, they are still modified from the original... Notice that Kanno used the same climb (part before the chorus)--1:20 in "Une Heroine" and 1:35 mark for "Cloud 9... And don't forget that both songs have a harmonica solo in the middle... Yes, they are different songs but not completely... It's pretty obvious like an elephant in a livingroom that "Cloud 9" is modified from "Une Heroine"...
RichardHannay 2 years ago
I don't know if you're in complete denial or what, but Yoko Kanno obviously copied this song... And I am saying this as a die-hard Yoko Kanno fan myself...
RichardHannay 2 years ago
I agree with almost everything you said, but "Cloud 9" is BASED on this song (like you said, undeniably), but it's not a copy (copied and based on are not the same, though still a shame). Both songs deliver things differently.
I was kinda dissaspointed after learning of all her others songs which are also based on something else. But she is awesome anyway.
Fhwoarang 2 years ago
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Zanku55 2 years ago
Beau montage. J'adore voulzy.
fideliodebeethoven 3 years ago
Merci, t'es bien sympa !!
En fait j'avais pas trop d'images, donc j'ai bricolé ça comme j'ai pu pour que ça ressemble à quelque chose
8-D
HamsterJovial2007 3 years ago
Excellent montage, super bien fait. Bravo.
alphalaw77 3 years ago