Surely the number of world's population has gone OVER the reasonable limit. and what is the reasonable limit? u tell me. i 'd say about 1 billion. But which populations are we talking about, the big cities populations or the populations of the areas between the big cities? becuz as time goes by, more peoples are moving to their nearest big cities. so the concentration of huge numbers of peoples in the big cities is the dangerous factor.if we spread around on earth,our survival is in less danger.
exactly, that's why I'm sick of hearing people say this is a bad economy. What do you want to do, destroy and sell off the entire planet? This economy is way too overproductive. And in the big cities in the usa we have horrible infrastructure, with freeways everywhere, and all houses and buildings, there is no arable land left.
@limoboss6242 Until all the animals are savagedly killed and eaten, and then we start on each other. Less humans = better. I don't mean killing, I mean more abortions, more birth control, better education, more unorthodox thinking. Think outside the box, people!
2:38 Thank G-D for the crusades.If it wasn't for them we would be muslim right now and women would be wiping the dust off of man's feet with their faces.
I AGREE THE USA CAN DO MORE AS WELL WE NEED SOMEONE LIKE A GOOD REPUBLICAN TO WIN IN 2012 SO OUR DUMB LAZY WELFARE LOSERS CAN DIE OFF IF THEY DON'T GO AND GET A JOB I DON'T CARE I HAVE A GREAT JOB AS A CPA I BUST MY REAR EVERY DAY AND FOR WHAT SO WE AS A NATION CAN GO DEEPER INTO DEBT WITH CHINA AS MY HARD EARNED MONEY INCREASINGLY BECOMES WORTH LESS EVERY PASSING DAY I AGREE WE NEED TO START DE POPULATING THE EARTH I THINK A GOOD 50% IN FOOD PRICES CAN GET THE JOB DONE WORLD WIDE
up to 1:12 was pretty good then he said "we use fosil fuels to destroy natural habitats"WTF!!! 2:04 she said we need to greatly Reduce our population !!! HOW !! massacre 90% of them ? she never followed it up !! 3:32 we didnt cause climate change, its a natural cycle !! 3:44 she never mentioned white !! or a bussiness man. !! she left those two out wich is sexists and racists. but to be fair there are american students. its 7 billion people now as of nov 4 2011
@1290001 China is good, its population will soon began to decline. Actually, we should let the Chinese run the world, as there is one child policy for everyone.
For the good of the Earth, we need a mass human die-off.... this world and its species would flourish without humans.... we cannot flourish without them.
Nobody ever died of starvation because of population control. Only retards who know nothing about reality and cannot prove any of the shit that spews from their mouths would say such a thing. Prove ONE instance where REDUCING population CAUSED somebody to die of starvation.
@88osprey that is exactly what they want you to think, earth is massive and can support 7 billion people ONLY through sustainability. Its 7 billion people all wanting to live materialistic and lavish lifestyles that is the problem, the entire worlds population can fit inside texas which is minute compared to earths total mass.
Once you start maximizing THAT utility function, THEN you start proving that some algorithms -
(outlaw human meat-eaters, euthanize lions) - are better - i.e. closer to optimal - than other algorithms, such as yours and the whole history of humanity: (let humans do whatever they want to non-humans, but step-over-eggshells with respects to other humans - no matter how much torture that causes)
And, yes - if we have the technology and IF WE CAN go out into the wild and euthanize a lion to spare a gazelle so the lion does not have to starve AND the gazelle does not have to be ripped to shreds,
and the energy to us exceeds neither, then WE SHOULD DO IT.
ALL decisions ALL decisions ALL decisions are game theory.
There IS no distinction between "moral" vs "legal" vs "political" choices. They are ALL just CHOICES.
You're placing the life of the gazelle over the life of the lion then! Can you say hypocrite? The gazelle may die either way. If there are no carnivores or omnivores in an environment, the herbivores populate an environment to the point where food becomes scarce. Many of them starve as a result.
Your limited mental ability does not allow you to think in terms other than extremely simple-minded
"this life over that life". EVERYTHING dies anyway. EVERYTHING. So, you have given ZERO why I shouldn't go out an kill all meat-eaters (human and non-human, btw) right now, since they will die eventually anyway.
Since, you have given no unique algorithm, you cannot say my decisions (to outlaw meat) are "worse" than yours (or yours "better" than mine).
Once you start maximizing THAT utility function, THEN you start proving that some algorithms:
(outlaw human meat-eaters, euthanize lions) - are better - i.e. closer to optimal - than other algorithms, such as yours and the whole history of humanity: (let humans do whatever they want to non-humans, but step-over-eggshells with respects to other humans - no matter how much torture that causes)
@mphello Apex predators are the foundation to the ecosystem. They regulate the prey and the prey regulate them.... the predatory species NEED to be preserved.... they regulate everything. Look around at all the issues this world faces because predators were/are eliminated
Not sure if you were referring to my earlier comments regarding IF humans had the technology to spare a rabbit while euthanizing an apex predator like a snake - or feeding the snake biosynthesized meat so the snake need not starve - so that NEITHER suffer; or to humans being an apex predator. Except, 99% of humans do not eat wild animals, except fish, and there are few fish left, because the apex in this case wasn't kept under control.
@mphello I totally agree, humans are not predators! I actually own quite a few reptiles (I do education) and I feed them humanely euthanized rodents. I have looked into the biosynthesized and came to the conclusion that a whole prey diet for my animals (I feed them to my raptors too) is the best and the most natural round diet. When people feed their predatory 'pets' live prey, I find that its purely for the theatrical aspect and I disagree with their motives entirely.
Seriously, good for you! You ARE one in a billion, you know, who would be concerned over the rodents' suffering as well as that of the reptiles. The problem are the other 999,999,999.
@mphello Thank you! Anyone who tells you their reptile can only eat live, is full of shit. I have NEVER met a reptile that I couldn't switch to frozen/thawed rodents. People buy reptiles a lot of times b/c they want to show others that it kills aggressively (the theatrical aspect). Then when they realize that the reptile lives 20+ yrs and its no longer cool to feed it they dump it... hence why I have the ones I do. In the wild, predators do what they need to do, but in captivity there's no need
@88osprey That's sad if you think that your actions reflect those of 7 billion people. Yes, many of us try to do the right thing, but we are not representative of humanity as a whole. Humanity is generally greedy, careless and inconsiderate, it is something that grows worse and worse as time goes by and it needs to be turned around.
Wack job after wack job talking about euthanizing and killing. Yep. The world would be so much better populated by you weak, slimy, little, vegan pieces of shit.
The only thing we can do...kill. It may sound bad but it will save our race. If we don't decrease the number of people on our planet, we're all going to die. I don't give a shit what people will argue, its true
To you overpopulation-deniers: WAKE UP! Stop being slaves and zombies to the politically correct media that condemns the idea of laws mandating vasectomies.
Stop believing in unproven and unprovable theories of non-existent NWO and illuminati and elites.
NWO elites are the ones who want to control us the way you suggest! Mandatory vasectomy laws remind me of Hitler!! The government has NO RIGHT to do that to someone. NO RIGHT.
And, yes - if we have the technology and IF WE CAN go out into the wild and euthanize a lion to spare a gazelle so the lion does not have to starve AND the gazelle does not have to be ripped to shreds,
and the energy to us exceeds neither, then WE SHOULD DO IT.
ALL decisions ALL decisions ALL decisions are game theory.
There IS no distinction between "moral" vs "legal" vs "political" choices. They are ALL just CHOICES.
Euthanize meat-eaters. Those who have no choice (e.g. prisoners, those living in far remote places) of where they can get food should be spared. But those who DO have food choices: euthanize them. Better still: kill them. Don't waste precious anesthesia on them. That will relieve the world of a large chunk of unnecessary population.
Meat gives you some essential amino acids you can't find in other food sources. I'd eat meat whether it was outlawed or not. It's my freedom and my choice. No totalitarian dictatorship would stop me. I can't believe you compare it to rape of all things. I know cows have to die for me to eat hamburgers but it's an essential part of life. Are you going to force lions to eat salad just because you're offended at them eating gazelles?
So you admit you would not obey the law if it said to outlaw meat, right?
Then I have ZERO sympathy for you if you get killed in a bomb blast to free prisoners from prisons (in ANY country in the world) because THEY all believe that THEY don't have to obey laws and THEY believe THOSE laws are a dictatorship.
I would agree with 99% of them anyway.
You are STILL FORCING YOUR CHOICE on the cow, which you don't get.
I'd disobey the law in that case and I'd be PROUD TO DO IT if it came down to that. It would be a dictatorship and I wouldn't stand for it. You can't tell me to stop eating my favorite foods just because you wanna force your idiotic ideology on the world. You advocate mass murder of human beings for not following your moronic laws. You place cows above people, admit it. You're a hypocrite to the highest degree. I could also say the cow is forcing its choice on the grass.
The mere mention of the human overpopulation crisis brings out the wackjob conspiracy theorists and their brainwashed zombies, who believe uncritically everything the coal and fossil fuel industries and catholic church and islam tells them.
What a bunch of mindless, programmed, robots, incapable of thinking for themselves. All they're doing is regurgitating what they've been told. If every human on earth were moved to Australia, we'd each have over 400 sq ft to live in, and have room left over in Australia, not to mention the ENTIRE WORLD. And they're just repeating garbage that's been repeated over & over to them about the hoax of global warming. I could go on for pages on that one. It's all bull, based on desire for power. Fools!
It always confuses me though how all these people would preach in the first world about how there are to many people on the planet and not enough resources etc Yet Europeans as a race only make up about 8% of the worlds population and already have a below replacement level birth rate. Yet we keep doing everything in our power to keep the 3rd world alive and they keep breeding more and more??
So, what do you suggest we do? How do we solve the problem? You wouldn't possibly suggest mass genocides or that we do forced abortions, or sterilize populaces? How can we achieve a civil system of population reduction over time? It wouldn't quite be possible if only 65,000 people watch these kind of videos, or if a million people watched these videos, because we have nearly 7 billion people on the planet. Most of these people will never get the memo, so how can they ever learn and change?
@MrJordaanxxx What to do? I've been proposing mandatory vasectomies for over 30 years.
And mandatory sperm sorting (see the company Microsort in Virginia) to raise the ratio of female to male births to regain fairness. Hell of a lot less intrusive than mass migrations of the peoples from one country into another, or mandatory abortions (which are still necessary in some instances).
Hypocritically, the rightwing bitch and complain about illegal immigration but refuse to prevent its cause.
The world cannot survive with such a large human population. We dont have enough resources/food supplys to feed the world population today! If Africa was to become a developed continent along with south asia the world would be screwed! That means way more mouths to feed and where we get the food from to feed them all.
This is one of the worst videos I've ever seen. Okay fine.... If you're so convinced the world would be better if people didn't exist you should kill yourself
== It seems that Alex Jones and his army of obedient idiots really dig starving babies. ==
No, that's a FACT! All conservatives and libertarians love starving white babies, black babies, chinese babies, white adults, black etc. That's because conservatives and libertarians refuse to look at the consequences of their actions (laws).
big population = more power for those at the top - more followers, more cheap labour , bigger pyramid, more interdependence required through global trade and hence opportunities for middlemen to exploit
smaller population= more libertarian society, more local control, etc
The human population we have now is not sustainable indefinitely on Earth by current technology and even if we had the population of Lake Milawee in prehistoric Africa when that was where everybody in the human race was living it still wouldn't be sustainable indefinitely because there are things like the Red Giant phase our sun is going to eventually go into that will destroy all life on Earth eventually no matter how we conserve resources. What we need is new technology not less people.
- what you think of as technology is very crude compared to natures existing 'biotech' e.g. compare what the human brain can do on 20 watts to any modern computer.
technology has looked omnipotent whilst we had the 'energy lottery win' of millions of years of stored solar power to splurge in a couple of centuries. It is highly unlikely our brains can engineer technology to save billions now. we over-rate our achievements
to see how far off we are, check out the cost of the systems required on a spacecraft to sustain a human being removed from the earth services that we take for granted. how far are we honestly from being able to live removed from 'Gaia'.
The reason socialists are emotionally biased towards a crackpot theory that would have killed everybody in England off in the 19th Century if Malthus had been right is that it gives them a convenient rationalization for killing off tens of millions of people in two world wars started by socialist greed for other people's property and tens of millions of Ukrainians and Jews being starved to death by socialists to steal their food.
This is an idiotic argument spreading mistruths. let me start off with this.
"Russia's population density is 8.4 people per square km."
"The population density in China is 130 people per sq km."
There are extremes to both sides of population. Focusing on one side and ignoring the other is DENIAL as you stated. Another important fact is this; no matter how many people there are in the world, there will ALWAYS be a percentage that is starving. Survival of the fittest. (character limit, sorry)
Our economic system is about to collapse. The debt crisis will change the ballgame for good. People will suffer but future generations will benefit. america is about to default on its debt.
I've done my part. I will never have kids!!! Even if overpopulation wasn't a problem I still can't understand why anyone would bring a child into a world where they are forced to go get a job that they don't really want to go to. Dammit!! Why can't we all have superpowers and live in paradise ????
@Llortsaccount ... Iam suprisesd you haven't had more Timothy Mcveigh type attacks, there are many people who think like him and his type, I know because I read their comments many times on U Tube. I find US culture and some of the departures for reality in the media very dangerous, and very big shock. Anyway, there are some sane people there in the States, but there is a significant percentage that are quite nuts!!
@Llortsaccount Thanks for the reply, but how does the word 'genocide' even get into any discussion about world overpopulation?? Where do these ideas come from? Many US comment look weird to a European. There is something very paranoid about the States, possibly fueled by Hollywood, and the absolute shit that popular news/entertainment channels like Fox spews out, and the rhetoric from some of the extreme firebrand puedoscience propaganda preachers you have. Fear sells, even absurd fear. laters
@Llortsaccount "if they can make more money, they will be able to afford condoms, and medicines to destroy/prevent the illness."
What make you thing corrupt dictator ships who had no money in the first place would spend of these things? What make you thing they can actually afford the medicines for paracties/diseases that are very easy to catch? Condoms? People will still have sex regardless. If overpopulation was serious to the point of attack,they will use alt methods like genocide.
Do you ignore that fact that most of these govements are corrupt and giving rights to women alone wouldn't be absolutely illogical? Unless of course the US decides to come in and overthrow the previous government. Judging by history bring more harm than good.
@Llort Yes! We need to education women in countries and educate men to allow women their own rights. HOWEVER, we must be very careful to not allow things to get to the stage they are in the USA. In my country, women get far more rights/favoritism than men. To the point of extreme sexism. This needs to be prevented. Condoms need to become cheaper, people must be educated on STDs, the Pill and other contraceptives should be on the shelves, and abortion needs ot be legalized. It is a human right.
How does this solve the issue of overconsumpion and overpopulation? Educating women is nigh impossible in poor countries and it would interview with many cultures and views. Why would education solve the current oil crisis? Having less children would be a disadvantage in third world because of disease.
"people must be educated on STDs,"
You're not aware of diseases that are far more common and easier to get with out sex? Is it possible to avoid things like River blindness?
@Llortsaccount Some, yes, but what makes people get so eager to go into first-world countries? Because there's a lot of corruption in 3rd world countries, and poverty as you point out. Education is there to fix that. With so many people being born, education will do little good. We need to tackle population first to get a better chance to implement effective education.
@Llortsaccount You just grabbed the ball and dropped it. The best way to fix poverty (even then, people can still become poor even if they were billionaires before) and overpopulation is through education. But that won't directly help the survival rate unless more people who work become doctors or scientists, and it has nothing to do with making more money. Making money a big focus means people lose integrity in their jobs and leads to malpractice. I know this firsthand with ignorant doctors.
@Llortsaccount Education is somewhat subjective. To one, America's education has a few flaws. To another, it may look like garbage. Healthcare takes resources, lack of clean water means an overstretched ecosystem can't support al life on it. Average birth rates of 1.5-2 as opposed to 4? What shall I type in on the search bar to find it more quickly? As far as I know, the only countries with a stable or shrinking population are Germany and Russia. There may be more, but I don't know for sure.
@Llortsaccount And how do most wars start? Because they're on a search for more resources. Money, land, sometimes just food. Wars from 10.000 years ago were because of basic needs. Sure, now and then, a war is started because of greedy people who want to rule the world or a certain land, but most wars start because of resource needs increasing. Why? Because of overpopulation. More people means more food, land, water and other resources are consumed and the needs of the nation increase.
@Llortsaccount Considering your ego and dishonest lies about liberals, I doubt you're above lying to make yourself look better. With your spelling, I doubt you could make more than a few thousand dollars. Poverty is caused by overpopulation. Think: make 40.000$ a year, which is enough for a couple with 2 kids and a FEW luxuries. With 1, they'd be wealthy With 3, they couldn't afford luxuries. With 4-5-6, they'd be poor. Overpopulation helps poverty, which in turn feeds overpop. It's a cycle.
@Llortsaccount Why would I do that when I can kill many more retards like you? Since you love people so much, go donate your house, all your money and possessions, convince your wife, dog and kids to give their money as well to save starving kids in Africa.
@Llortsaccount China's only good law is the 1-child law. LOOK at the world! TIGERS, LIONS, DOLPHINS, WHALES, SHARKS, entire FORESTS AND MOST OF LIFE ON EARTH IS DYING THANKS TO YOU FUCKING BREEDERS! STOP this insanity and WAKE UP! Life is not all about YOU.
@mphello I truly appreciate the thought. I really do, but this was 4 months ago. But thanks for reminding me of this video. It's good to see people waking up about the problems around.
@Llortsaccount What a bunch of sick lies. Liberals do NOT support forced abortion. We support legality of abortion and for people to see it as an option, not a sin or murder or whatever else you conservitards think it is. And NO-ONE, absolutely no-one wants to mandate an age limit. Why lie like that? Do you see us as such a threat that you need to lie? Or were you just bottle-fed these rabid lies by extreme right-wing idiots?
@Llortsaccount Conservaturds FORCE TRILLIONS of animals to needlessly be tortured and killed in factory farms because conservaturds have NO morality and NO ability to accept the CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR ACTIONS if it means changing their eating habits or consumption or buying habits.
Conservaturds want to force MASS STARVATION by forcing BILLIONS of babies into this world - and then stand in the way of climate action.
Conservaturds oppose UFO disclosure and freedom of speech to talk about it.
@phello They also oppose Abortion rights because they feel a fetus is more important than a woman who wants to live freely in life. They feel a fetus which scientifically doesn't have a mind, consciousness, the ability for any kind of physical+mental pain or emotions. They prefer a mindless clump of cells over disabled people who need stem cell research, men who would be forced to pay alimony for nearly 2 decades and women who don't have the resources, mentally & economically to care for a baby.
@Llortsaccount Conservaturds are the ones who support mass murder (capital punishment, anthropogenic global warming). I'm for war - where both sides at least have an equal chance at killing each other.
Conservaturds support forcing women to die from forced childbirth.
Conservaturds supports fascist prison sentences for things that shouldn't be crimes in the first place, like euthanasia.
Conservaturds OPPOSE CHOICE on euthanasia and marijuana.
@Llortsaccount Conservaturds are fucking worthless anti-American cowardly scum.
They support wars only to INCREASE wealth inequality and power inequality, whereas true radicals support wars to DECREASE wealth inequality - like the revolutions in Greece.
Conservaturds SUPPORT theocracies like Saudia Arabia or freeloading christian churches in America not paying their fair share of taxes.
Radicals SUPPORT freedom of choice of private matters: pot, pornography, homosexual marriage.
Never trust anybody who says the world is overpopulated and needs fewer people since they logically aren't talking about themselves or they'd have committed suicide,,,which leaves you and the rest of the human race they're planning to murder at the first opportunity most likely to steal all your property for themselves.
@Texasjim2007 What stupid comment. The population is too high for the resources available, and so there needs to be less Humans being born. Why is half of the U.S. paranoid and retarded?
@Texasjim2007@Texasjim2007 World IS overpopulated by human. If I say it, it doesn't mean that I would recommend to kill anybody. It just means that people should not produce no more than 2 children per couple. Birth control is the solution, not murdering. I am only 45 years old, but during my short lifetime the world's human population doubbled. Think about it. And - the more people on the planet, the less recources for other living being - plants, animals etc.
@Texasjim2007 The point of bringing overpopulation under control is to improve the quality of life for those of us already here. Less babies now means less parasites sucking up natural resources and more for the rest of us. No one is advocating genocide or suicide. Learn to logic.
The systemic and organised reduction of dispensable surplus population through abortion, euthanisation of the senescent, the physically and mentally infirm and the economically disadvantaged; and utilising the mortal remains as a tenable food resource proportionately distributed to those who have adequately demonstrated their viability as productive appurtenances of the collective human society.
@riverlioness FINALLY! FINALLY! FINALLY! The VERY first anti-communist who is LOGICALLY CONSISTENT by admitting that corporatism and nationalism are ALSO forms of collectivism just like communism.
One can argue the positives and negatives of collectivism separately. But, the important thing is:
FINALLY somebody but myself has acknowledged that!
(No, I am not being sarcastic about you. You are sincere. I am sarcastic about all the idiot fanatics I have had to fight.)
@riverlioness Glad you finally realized NATIONALISM is collectivism, too.
Now, if we could only get all the millions of other anti-communists to be logically consistent and acknowledge that ultra NATIONALISTIC laws are just as bad - in fact, far worse - than communist laws. True communist law is meant only to pay workers equally and more than the nonworking lazy capital owners. It says NOTHING about abortion, marijuana, owning guns, pornography.
I only wish it were that easy. All those "morally ethical" little whiners will then start bitching about how "wrong" it is, just because it makes them uncomfortable, and they continue lying to themselves; saying that the world's fine, and that the only proper way to do things is the "right way." Those kinds of idiots are holding us back nowadays. You should add them to your list.
over population,peak oil, New World Order, Codex Ailmentarious, Terrorism, flouride, aspertame, viruses, starvation,poisons,chemtrails, economic collapse. I'm glad their trying to dumb us down, it's all getting too much. There is nowhere to hide from this encroaching doom. Positive surgestions on a postcard please.
I have a solution to your problem the government should give the option to all people to get self-sterilize and give a lump sump of money to drug addicts to get self-sterilized. This should also be be an option in Africa and other third world countries. Here is also another good example people that have lived on welfare for more than 5 Years must get self-sterilized in order to continue receiving benefits. -One step to solving overpopulation.
Conservatives are the biggest leeches: multiTRILLION dollar corporate welfare and bankster bailouts, 1000X larger salaries for corporate CEOs than the ones who actually do work, christian and muslim churches which don't pay property taxes, and the MILILONS of human-lives and dollars stolen imprisoning people for their private choice to consume marijuana if they want.
First, castrate conservatives (without anesthesia): THEN immediately torture them to death AFTERWARDS.
Totally stupid to keep arguing this "elites" vs "the poor" as a way of ignoring overpopulation, which comes down to claiming: better that BOTH sides be allowed to overpopulate (i.e. better no laws to mandate vasectomies for anyone) than to mandate laws against breeding for only the poor. So WHAT? I'm going to keep demanding BOTH the "elites" and "poor" stop breeding.
The elites (conservatives) need to be castrated because they consume 10X per capita what the poor do.
Mandate vasectomies for all conservatives and religionists and human meat-eaters. And if they break the law, shove them into prison for life, the way they and THEIR laws have shoved innocent people into prison for doing things that are FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES NOBODY else's business (smoking pot, abortion, homosexual choice, owning a gun, free speech - even if hateful and violent doesn't make it action, it's still abstract ideas). Eating meat tortures non-human animals.
A ethical and fair way of reducing all environmental problems to less than half their current level by the end of this century can be found at "One Planet, One Child" or "overconsumpulation".
The problem is we all at some level know we are lead by professional psychopaths with lying, control, manipulation and mass murder their forte – with this personality type at the wheel there can be no trust and without trust we are lost- as John Pilger once said ‘believe nothing until it is officially denied’ we must start to connect with each other properly and- stop believing those dependent on power and ill with greed
@MRAK47ification Anyone with more than 2 points of IQ. You'll give a fuck when you'll look at your girlfriend and think of killing her for food, or your parents. And have to fight your way past dozens of people just to get some bread and water.
Overpopulation really? maybe for a system that crowds people into relatively tiny city areas to compete for their indentured servitude. Is over population not a myth popularised by the ruling psychopaths because the technology we have created in their sick eyes has rendered what they consider to be ‘the ignorant masses’ obsolete. The ruling psychopaths try to keep us in ignorance so they can use us – they care not about ‘the people’ and never have.
@ehpl The problems are because "The people" always ONLY think about "the people." Stop thinking about yourselves. We need to stop overpopulation to stop deforestation, land degradation on the Holocene Extinction event we've created. If we don't it'll come back to destroy us in the end. The world doesn't revolve around humanity. Learn some humility.
@vgman94 To get people to stop thinking about themselves is easier said than done- this system conditions western folk to be greedy and self focussed while at the same time it has separated people from a real connection to the earth- unfortunately while we keep choosing to have psychopaths leading us their sickening values simply percolate through and infect the rest of us to different degrees. Of course its worth remembering that in addition to extinction new species are found every day
@vgman94 BEST .... COMMENT ....EVER! (so far today)
To expound on that: and we also need to stop thinking about non-human animals only in groups of species, talking as if the only issue is whether the species survives or not, and talk instead about the effects of individual actions on individual animals, in factory farms and laboratories and breeding mills, which is FAR more important than whether a species survives as a whole.
for those of you talking so much about doing something about overpopulation...wake up. The Elites know this and they and who ever they please would survive...all you are nothing but minions to them like it says in this video. This planet has enough to sustain everyone...all the resources are in the wrong place. ANd all the power and war is NOT caused by religion, youd have to be a labotomized sloth to think that.
Also, when a male and female gets married it's resourceful and it helps to sustain the system.The couple shares landspace,they share the home,they share the washer and dryer,they share the stove and refrigerator,they share the toilet and bathtub,they share the carpet,the paint on the walls,the pictures,the bed,you should get to picture by now.So marriage also helps to sustain the system.
I used to be completely against Pianka, but since studying ecology at university I now realize just how much damage humanity is causing. We are literally decimating the natural ecosystem; even if we stop now we have still done untold irreversible damage to it, with as massive list of species extinct from our greed.
How do we fix it? Man is collectively not rational, thus we need limits to be set on reproduction.
We can not fight the inevitable.......Nothing lasts forever......
Why should people waste their lives trying to save what is not theirs for the saving?
Without a God there is no hope......End this silly fight to save the world and just enjoy this pleasures we have created......The world will survive with or without us.
Live for today because come tomorrow the universe will have forgotten all about us
@Arcflash67 If nothing else we as a species are problem creators and problem solvers- this ‘living for the day’ stuff is just conditioning in selfishness given to us by the ruling psychopaths- we have the tools and capacity to live in peace and balance with nature but as long as those ill personality types keeps manipulating their way to the top we shall have more problems than solutions.
Overpopulation is the reason why I never shed a tear when I hear about the plight of the third world. Until such people can learn to subsist within their own environment then they're better thought of as out of control vermin.
@KevinBusomjack Out of control vermin? You're pretty sick aren't you. And what of Americans? Have we learned to 'subsist within our own environment' in your opinion? We consume 19 million barrels/day of oil, yet we produce only 5.3 million. We've got 40% of our population that's classified as obese. Does that make us out of control vermin too?
@KevinBusomjack Finally, a logical comment. I feel the same. I could really care a less about 3rd world countries issues when American has many of its OWN. We freaking send $ to other countries when we're in SERIOUS, unsolvable debt ourselves.... WTF?! We NEED to be sending STERILIZATION VACCINES to spare any future, useless 'offsprings' with nothing to LIVE for but poverty, hunger & hopelessness. Incompetent, destitute people should not BREED! I will NOT waiver from my logic.
@informationwarfare FYI, I stopped at 1 kid and DID afterwards get 'sterilized.' How about YOU? At least I'm doing MY part and not contributing to OVERpopulation!
@recyclecongress Wow I just re-read your previous comment " Incompetent, destitute people should not BREED! I will NOT waiver from my logic." You really are a horrible person if you think that.
And no I am no sterilized, and I don't consent to vaccines. What person in their right mind would take a sterilization vaccine?
@informationwarfare Those who care about their home (the Earth), the other species on it and aren't selfish as to care more for making their own offspring for their own pleasure. Also, considering the state of the world, who wants to live here? Sexism (against women AND men), racism, nuclear weapons, horrible cruelties to animals, unjust legal systems, fear of change, of the different. I'll never have a child because I won't burden the Earth more, and won't condemn a soul to live in this Hell.
@vgman94 The Earth is hell because people are too pussy to change it. I will have a child and raise him/her to be a good human being. Most people just put them in public schools and they are raised to be a useless consuming person who cannot learn for themselves.
Having a child out of your own pleasure? It is basically the meaning of life to continue the species and raise a child in your image, you cannot take that away from someone. Things need to change in this world, shit's fucked up.
@informationwarfare Yeah, but bringing in others to change it for us isn't right either. People need to face up to themselves as well. So will you teach your child to think more deeply than just looking at the surface? Teach him to be tolerant and open to difference or change? To be kind to humans, pets, animals & other beings in general? Question: What exactly did you mean by raising your child in your image? Shouldn't they be themselves? Individuals? I mean help them develop themselves, but...
HA HA HA HA HA HOW NICE TELL THIS TO ARABS AND CHINESE MAKE THEM MAKE LESS KIDS LIKE 3 NOT 8 OR 14 THAT WOULD BE THE BEST LAUGH EVER .
ilgvars210 2 weeks ago
There is no need for population control. Nature will just kill us off wholesale when the scale tips in that direction. That direction is here
morgolvale 2 weeks ago
@morgolvale Better to die off by mandatory birth control than to let nature do it.
Nature won't do it fairly. (Unless one is fond of circular reasoning and simply DEFINES anything nature does as "fair".)
mphello 3 days ago
Overpopulation... myth
thughes1987 3 weeks ago
@thughes1987 indeed
10HAPPYGILMORE 3 weeks ago
Herp ... Kill everyone off , global warming, bad science rabble rabble ... DERP!
Minimisinfo 3 weeks ago
@Minimisinfo Spot on.
10HAPPYGILMORE 3 weeks ago
@HarryTruthman Awesome !!! Bob Barker.
MrBeautifulba1 1 month ago
15 weeks of study ay....
xxxxrotor 1 month ago
@1290001 TRUE but not china because its already controlling the pop with 1 child policy.
India i thin has a 2 child policy
where as africa has no policy so i reccommend blowing up africa
Marios867 1 month ago
Surely the number of world's population has gone OVER the reasonable limit. and what is the reasonable limit? u tell me. i 'd say about 1 billion. But which populations are we talking about, the big cities populations or the populations of the areas between the big cities? becuz as time goes by, more peoples are moving to their nearest big cities. so the concentration of huge numbers of peoples in the big cities is the dangerous factor.if we spread around on earth,our survival is in less danger.
arzadi11 1 month ago
are those zombie sounds near the end of the video?
creativeprojects720 1 month ago
exactly, that's why I'm sick of hearing people say this is a bad economy. What do you want to do, destroy and sell off the entire planet? This economy is way too overproductive. And in the big cities in the usa we have horrible infrastructure, with freeways everywhere, and all houses and buildings, there is no arable land left.
creativeprojects720 1 month ago
@MidoriCrayon that's exactly right
creativeprojects720 1 month ago
@HarryTruthman - Never happen, humans born to procreate and reproduce, never stop
the flow of humanity, population will continue to grow and grow!!
limoboss6242 1 month ago
@limoboss6242 Until all the animals are savagedly killed and eaten, and then we start on each other. Less humans = better. I don't mean killing, I mean more abortions, more birth control, better education, more unorthodox thinking. Think outside the box, people!
vgman94 4 weeks ago
2:38 Thank G-D for the crusades.If it wasn't for them we would be muslim right now and women would be wiping the dust off of man's feet with their faces.
imthemandawg 2 months ago 3
Carbon Monoxide? There are other scientists saying to people that its Carbon Dioxide.
Who's right and who's wrong?
deprogramer69 2 months ago
@MidoriCrayon
I AGREE THE USA CAN DO MORE AS WELL WE NEED SOMEONE LIKE A GOOD REPUBLICAN TO WIN IN 2012 SO OUR DUMB LAZY WELFARE LOSERS CAN DIE OFF IF THEY DON'T GO AND GET A JOB I DON'T CARE I HAVE A GREAT JOB AS A CPA I BUST MY REAR EVERY DAY AND FOR WHAT SO WE AS A NATION CAN GO DEEPER INTO DEBT WITH CHINA AS MY HARD EARNED MONEY INCREASINGLY BECOMES WORTH LESS EVERY PASSING DAY I AGREE WE NEED TO START DE POPULATING THE EARTH I THINK A GOOD 50% IN FOOD PRICES CAN GET THE JOB DONE WORLD WIDE
1290001 2 months ago
Hey, you guys remember global warming? Remember how everyone was freaking out about it?
Well Mars was getting hotter too...
So it's either A) The martians are overpopulating or B) The sun got hotter. (Which wouldn't make a very impressionable news headline, now would it?)
SuburbiaSurvivor 2 months ago
I see no problems here. Not interested in reducing our population.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
up to 1:12 was pretty good then he said "we use fosil fuels to destroy natural habitats"WTF!!! 2:04 she said we need to greatly Reduce our population !!! HOW !! massacre 90% of them ? she never followed it up !! 3:32 we didnt cause climate change, its a natural cycle !! 3:44 she never mentioned white !! or a bussiness man. !! she left those two out wich is sexists and racists. but to be fair there are american students. its 7 billion people now as of nov 4 2011
crazyknight2008 2 months ago
overpopulation is a myth (dot) com
rachelhelen19 3 months ago
WE NEED TO WARN CHINA, INDIA, AND AFRICA!
AFRICA ABOVE ALL POPULATES THE MOST AND WHAT OF THE CHILDREN ALL THEY DO IS LIVE IN POVERTY THEY'D BE BETTER OFF NOT POPULATING MORE!
1290001 3 months ago 7
@1290001 looooool dats just dum
KingSmokeAlot187 2 weeks ago
@1290001 China is good, its population will soon began to decline. Actually, we should let the Chinese run the world, as there is one child policy for everyone.
SpartanKratos001 2 weeks ago
@SpartanKratos001 I hope so, but China's population has not begun to decline soon enough. It needs to decline TEN YEARS ago.
mphello 3 days ago
@1290001 kill them,
BlackOpsSkelle 2 weeks ago
@1290001 Amen! Bravo!
mphello 3 days ago
People die of starvation because of population control Governing bodies! See JFk the truth must be heard.
morrisdecat 3 months ago
For the good of the Earth, we need a mass human die-off.... this world and its species would flourish without humans.... we cannot flourish without them.
88osprey 3 months ago 12
Nobody ever died of starvation because of population control. Only retards who know nothing about reality and cannot prove any of the shit that spews from their mouths would say such a thing. Prove ONE instance where REDUCING population CAUSED somebody to die of starvation.
mphello 3 months ago
@88osprey that is exactly what they want you to think, earth is massive and can support 7 billion people ONLY through sustainability. Its 7 billion people all wanting to live materialistic and lavish lifestyles that is the problem, the entire worlds population can fit inside texas which is minute compared to earths total mass.
edspacely92 1 month ago
@88osprey ''For the good of the Earth, we need a mass human die-off.''
I agree. 7 billion or so should do it.
DerivedEnergy 3 weeks ago
@88osprey I like your comment. Such a true.
Peopstup 3 weeks ago
We just hit and passed the 7 billion mark as of 2 minutes to midnight 10/30/2011
morgolvale 3 months ago
1 kid per family is to much to ask?????
EstEdvard 3 months ago
hetrosexuals STOP BREEDING
squeamish05 3 months ago
@StarrEyes86
That is why all that matters is QUALITY of life.
Once you start maximizing THAT utility function, THEN you start proving that some algorithms -
(outlaw human meat-eaters, euthanize lions) - are better - i.e. closer to optimal - than other algorithms, such as yours and the whole history of humanity: (let humans do whatever they want to non-humans, but step-over-eggshells with respects to other humans - no matter how much torture that causes)
mphello 4 months ago
@StarrEyes86
And, yes - if we have the technology and IF WE CAN go out into the wild and euthanize a lion to spare a gazelle so the lion does not have to starve AND the gazelle does not have to be ripped to shreds,
and the energy to us exceeds neither, then WE SHOULD DO IT.
ALL decisions ALL decisions ALL decisions are game theory.
There IS no distinction between "moral" vs "legal" vs "political" choices. They are ALL just CHOICES.
mphello 4 months ago
@mphello
You're placing the life of the gazelle over the life of the lion then! Can you say hypocrite? The gazelle may die either way. If there are no carnivores or omnivores in an environment, the herbivores populate an environment to the point where food becomes scarce. Many of them starve as a result.
StarrEyes86 4 months ago
@StarrEyes86
Your limited mental ability does not allow you to think in terms other than extremely simple-minded
"this life over that life". EVERYTHING dies anyway. EVERYTHING. So, you have given ZERO why I shouldn't go out an kill all meat-eaters (human and non-human, btw) right now, since they will die eventually anyway.
Since, you have given no unique algorithm, you cannot say my decisions (to outlaw meat) are "worse" than yours (or yours "better" than mine).
mphello 4 months ago
@StarrEyes86
That is why all that matter is QUALITY of life.
Once you start maximizing THAT utility function, THEN you start proving that some algorithms:
(outlaw human meat-eaters, euthanize lions) - are better - i.e. closer to optimal - than other algorithms, such as yours and the whole history of humanity: (let humans do whatever they want to non-humans, but step-over-eggshells with respects to other humans - no matter how much torture that causes)
mphello 4 months ago
@mphello Apex predators are the foundation to the ecosystem. They regulate the prey and the prey regulate them.... the predatory species NEED to be preserved.... they regulate everything. Look around at all the issues this world faces because predators were/are eliminated
88osprey 3 months ago
@88osprey
Not sure if you were referring to my earlier comments regarding IF humans had the technology to spare a rabbit while euthanizing an apex predator like a snake - or feeding the snake biosynthesized meat so the snake need not starve - so that NEITHER suffer; or to humans being an apex predator. Except, 99% of humans do not eat wild animals, except fish, and there are few fish left, because the apex in this case wasn't kept under control.
mphello 3 months ago
@mphello I totally agree, humans are not predators! I actually own quite a few reptiles (I do education) and I feed them humanely euthanized rodents. I have looked into the biosynthesized and came to the conclusion that a whole prey diet for my animals (I feed them to my raptors too) is the best and the most natural round diet. When people feed their predatory 'pets' live prey, I find that its purely for the theatrical aspect and I disagree with their motives entirely.
88osprey 3 months ago
@88osprey
== I feed them humanely euthanized rodents ==
Seriously, good for you! You ARE one in a billion, you know, who would be concerned over the rodents' suffering as well as that of the reptiles. The problem are the other 999,999,999.
mphello 3 months ago
@mphello Thank you! Anyone who tells you their reptile can only eat live, is full of shit. I have NEVER met a reptile that I couldn't switch to frozen/thawed rodents. People buy reptiles a lot of times b/c they want to show others that it kills aggressively (the theatrical aspect). Then when they realize that the reptile lives 20+ yrs and its no longer cool to feed it they dump it... hence why I have the ones I do. In the wild, predators do what they need to do, but in captivity there's no need
88osprey 3 months ago
@88osprey
Humans are not predators? Tell that to a blue whale or a tiger..
6musky 2 months ago
@88osprey That's sad if you think that your actions reflect those of 7 billion people. Yes, many of us try to do the right thing, but we are not representative of humanity as a whole. Humanity is generally greedy, careless and inconsiderate, it is something that grows worse and worse as time goes by and it needs to be turned around.
TaranWanderer2 2 months ago
we need a good war.. that will fix the problem of over population.. lol.. lets face it.., thats probably what will happen..
DukeHarnage 4 months ago
Wack job after wack job talking about euthanizing and killing. Yep. The world would be so much better populated by you weak, slimy, little, vegan pieces of shit.
donnely138 4 months ago
To donnely138
The world WOULD be better without you crybaby hypocritical selfish meat-eaters
who preach that law of the jungle is good, but cry whenever somebody suggests killing YOU.
To the other poster: I DO support a good war. Nuke all the anti-vegetarians and meat-eaters.
mphello 4 months ago
The only thing we can do...kill. It may sound bad but it will save our race. If we don't decrease the number of people on our planet, we're all going to die. I don't give a shit what people will argue, its true
MrGlennister 4 months ago
@MrGlennister
Yup!! People can't seem to face this fact... the next 10 years should get very interesting... that is if we make it past 2012....game over
2012GreenGhost420 4 months ago
To you overpopulation-deniers: WAKE UP! Stop being slaves and zombies to the politically correct media that condemns the idea of laws mandating vasectomies.
Stop believing in unproven and unprovable theories of non-existent NWO and illuminati and elites.
mphello 4 months ago in playlist Overpopulation
@mphello
NWO elites are the ones who want to control us the way you suggest! Mandatory vasectomy laws remind me of Hitler!! The government has NO RIGHT to do that to someone. NO RIGHT.
StarrEyes86 4 months ago
@StarrEyes86
ALL laws, ALL laws, ALL laws should be based upon the POSITIVE outweighing the NEGATIVE.
Otherwise THEY ARE WORTHLESS SHIT.
Right down to whether a prisoner can get an extra 15 minutes in watching TV or not.
(The "hardship" on the prison guard is ZERO, whereas the utility function to the prisoner may be HUGE.)
When the difficulty of finding another source of protein outweighs the fear of the animal killed,
then you SHOULD be allowed to euthanize and eat the animal.
mphello 4 months ago
@StarrEyes86
And, yes - if we have the technology and IF WE CAN go out into the wild and euthanize a lion to spare a gazelle so the lion does not have to starve AND the gazelle does not have to be ripped to shreds,
and the energy to us exceeds neither, then WE SHOULD DO IT.
ALL decisions ALL decisions ALL decisions are game theory.
There IS no distinction between "moral" vs "legal" vs "political" choices. They are ALL just CHOICES.
mphello 4 months ago
Euthanize meat-eaters. Those who have no choice (e.g. prisoners, those living in far remote places) of where they can get food should be spared. But those who DO have food choices: euthanize them. Better still: kill them. Don't waste precious anesthesia on them. That will relieve the world of a large chunk of unnecessary population.
mphello 4 months ago
@mphello
It's NATURAL to eat meat. We EVOLVED TO EAT MEAT. I can't believe you put cows over human beings.
StarrEyes86 4 months ago
@StarrEyes86
It's NATURAL for people to kill each other in order to gain an advantage by taking their resources.
So the FUCK WHAT?
It's natural for people to lobby for power for whatever THEIR political causes are.
So I choose to outlaw meat. Tough shit.
And child rapists enjoy raping children. So, you think they should be allowed to do that just because it's their CHOICE?
Bottom line: YOU don't HAVE to eat meat. Therefore, you are DELIBERATELY MURDERING a cow.
mphello 4 months ago
@mphello
Meat gives you some essential amino acids you can't find in other food sources. I'd eat meat whether it was outlawed or not. It's my freedom and my choice. No totalitarian dictatorship would stop me. I can't believe you compare it to rape of all things. I know cows have to die for me to eat hamburgers but it's an essential part of life. Are you going to force lions to eat salad just because you're offended at them eating gazelles?
StarrEyes86 4 months ago
@StarrEyes86
So you admit you would not obey the law if it said to outlaw meat, right?
Then I have ZERO sympathy for you if you get killed in a bomb blast to free prisoners from prisons (in ANY country in the world) because THEY all believe that THEY don't have to obey laws and THEY believe THOSE laws are a dictatorship.
I would agree with 99% of them anyway.
You are STILL FORCING YOUR CHOICE on the cow, which you don't get.
mphello 4 months ago
@mphello
I'd disobey the law in that case and I'd be PROUD TO DO IT if it came down to that. It would be a dictatorship and I wouldn't stand for it. You can't tell me to stop eating my favorite foods just because you wanna force your idiotic ideology on the world. You advocate mass murder of human beings for not following your moronic laws. You place cows above people, admit it. You're a hypocrite to the highest degree. I could also say the cow is forcing its choice on the grass.
StarrEyes86 4 months ago
The mere mention of the human overpopulation crisis brings out the wackjob conspiracy theorists and their brainwashed zombies, who believe uncritically everything the coal and fossil fuel industries and catholic church and islam tells them.
mphello 4 months ago in playlist Overpopulation
What a bunch of mindless, programmed, robots, incapable of thinking for themselves. All they're doing is regurgitating what they've been told. If every human on earth were moved to Australia, we'd each have over 400 sq ft to live in, and have room left over in Australia, not to mention the ENTIRE WORLD. And they're just repeating garbage that's been repeated over & over to them about the hoax of global warming. I could go on for pages on that one. It's all bull, based on desire for power. Fools!
4limitedgovt 4 months ago
Women's having 7 child's and not being able to EVEN feed herself is THE PROBLEM!
And this exact same people will perish. Thank this to the churches, and education.
MegaRoFLL 4 months ago
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It always confuses me though how all these people would preach in the first world about how there are to many people on the planet and not enough resources etc Yet Europeans as a race only make up about 8% of the worlds population and already have a below replacement level birth rate. Yet we keep doing everything in our power to keep the 3rd world alive and they keep breeding more and more??
KumarZimmerman08 4 months ago
if over population is the greatest threat to humanity then u idiots should be celebrating HItler. No?
shawnzi24 4 months ago
So, what do you suggest we do? How do we solve the problem? You wouldn't possibly suggest mass genocides or that we do forced abortions, or sterilize populaces? How can we achieve a civil system of population reduction over time? It wouldn't quite be possible if only 65,000 people watch these kind of videos, or if a million people watched these videos, because we have nearly 7 billion people on the planet. Most of these people will never get the memo, so how can they ever learn and change?
MrJordaanxxx 4 months ago
@MrJordaanxxx What to do? I've been proposing mandatory vasectomies for over 30 years.
And mandatory sperm sorting (see the company Microsort in Virginia) to raise the ratio of female to male births to regain fairness. Hell of a lot less intrusive than mass migrations of the peoples from one country into another, or mandatory abortions (which are still necessary in some instances).
Hypocritically, the rightwing bitch and complain about illegal immigration but refuse to prevent its cause.
mphello 4 months ago in playlist Overpopulation
The world cannot survive with such a large human population. We dont have enough resources/food supplys to feed the world population today! If Africa was to become a developed continent along with south asia the world would be screwed! That means way more mouths to feed and where we get the food from to feed them all.
cam9408 4 months ago
This is one of the worst videos I've ever seen. Okay fine.... If you're so convinced the world would be better if people didn't exist you should kill yourself
joestl314 5 months ago
@joestl314 This people are smart, they actually care about humans, animals, nature, Earth....
1GTX1 5 months ago
I find it unfortunate that the mention of the human population crisis brings the conspiracy cultists out of the woodwork.
It seems that Alex Jones and his army of obedient idiots really dig starving babies.
Someone should start rounding up those Infocult fucks, what a shame that their "FEMA camps" aren't real.
asubjectiveopinion 5 months ago
@asubjectiveopinion
== It seems that Alex Jones and his army of obedient idiots really dig starving babies. ==
No, that's a FACT! All conservatives and libertarians love starving white babies, black babies, chinese babies, white adults, black etc. That's because conservatives and libertarians refuse to look at the consequences of their actions (laws).
mphello 4 months ago in playlist Overpopulation
@jeshopk -
big population = more power for those at the top - more followers, more cheap labour , bigger pyramid, more interdependence required through global trade and hence opportunities for middlemen to exploit
smaller population= more libertarian society, more local control, etc
walter0bz 5 months ago
There was no unemployment before money was made up.
Mammothviking 5 months ago
@Mammothviking -
just straightforward tribal territorial war
walter0bz 5 months ago
@Mammothviking .. and a world population measured in 10's of millions, not 100's of millions (agrarian age) or billions (industrial age)
walter0bz 5 months ago
The human population we have now is not sustainable indefinitely on Earth by current technology and even if we had the population of Lake Milawee in prehistoric Africa when that was where everybody in the human race was living it still wouldn't be sustainable indefinitely because there are things like the Red Giant phase our sun is going to eventually go into that will destroy all life on Earth eventually no matter how we conserve resources. What we need is new technology not less people.
Texasjim2007 5 months ago
@Texasjim2007
"What we need is new technology not less people."
- what you think of as technology is very crude compared to natures existing 'biotech' e.g. compare what the human brain can do on 20 watts to any modern computer.
technology has looked omnipotent whilst we had the 'energy lottery win' of millions of years of stored solar power to splurge in a couple of centuries. It is highly unlikely our brains can engineer technology to save billions now. we over-rate our achievements
walter0bz 5 months ago
@Texasjim2007 -
to see how far off we are, check out the cost of the systems required on a spacecraft to sustain a human being removed from the earth services that we take for granted. how far are we honestly from being able to live removed from 'Gaia'.
walter0bz 5 months ago
The reason socialists are emotionally biased towards a crackpot theory that would have killed everybody in England off in the 19th Century if Malthus had been right is that it gives them a convenient rationalization for killing off tens of millions of people in two world wars started by socialist greed for other people's property and tens of millions of Ukrainians and Jews being starved to death by socialists to steal their food.
Texasjim2007 5 months ago
This is an idiotic argument spreading mistruths. let me start off with this.
"Russia's population density is 8.4 people per square km."
"The population density in China is 130 people per sq km."
There are extremes to both sides of population. Focusing on one side and ignoring the other is DENIAL as you stated. Another important fact is this; no matter how many people there are in the world, there will ALWAYS be a percentage that is starving. Survival of the fittest. (character limit, sorry)
991blur 6 months ago
@991blur and your opinion must be true because it's your opinion, right?
brianmenendez 6 months ago
@brianmenendez population density is my opinion? wtf?
991blur 6 months ago
I wish I wasn't born. I don't want to be here when shit hits the fan. Fucking parents...
keepsmilin37 6 months ago
This is how humans will go. Hopefully I'll be DEAD by then.
keepsmilin37 6 months ago
Our economic system is about to collapse. The debt crisis will change the ballgame for good. People will suffer but future generations will benefit. america is about to default on its debt.
beastinblack 6 months ago
Enjoy your Soylent Green
beastinblack 6 months ago
Also see "overconsumpulation" and "one planet one child" for more on this topic.
phillips78 6 months ago
I've done my part. I will never have kids!!! Even if overpopulation wasn't a problem I still can't understand why anyone would bring a child into a world where they are forced to go get a job that they don't really want to go to. Dammit!! Why can't we all have superpowers and live in paradise ????
MrBeautifulba1 6 months ago 12
@MrBeautifulba1 Most sensitive and emotionally powerful statement ever! Bravo!
mphello 4 months ago in playlist Overpopulation
Global Birth Control FTW!
vmorgun 6 months ago
@Llortsaccount ... Iam suprisesd you haven't had more Timothy Mcveigh type attacks, there are many people who think like him and his type, I know because I read their comments many times on U Tube. I find US culture and some of the departures for reality in the media very dangerous, and very big shock. Anyway, there are some sane people there in the States, but there is a significant percentage that are quite nuts!!
Good comment you posted, and luck to you.
amemy1 6 months ago
@Llortsaccount Thanks for reply, and agreed.
amemy1 6 months ago
@Llortsaccount Thanks for the reply, but how does the word 'genocide' even get into any discussion about world overpopulation?? Where do these ideas come from? Many US comment look weird to a European. There is something very paranoid about the States, possibly fueled by Hollywood, and the absolute shit that popular news/entertainment channels like Fox spews out, and the rhetoric from some of the extreme firebrand puedoscience propaganda preachers you have. Fear sells, even absurd fear. laters
amemy1 6 months ago
Stop having kids you can't afford. In before Low IQ-moron with "herp derp, why don't you start by killing yourself."
batmanpronz 6 months ago
@Llortsaccount "if they can make more money, they will be able to afford condoms, and medicines to destroy/prevent the illness."
What make you thing corrupt dictator ships who had no money in the first place would spend of these things? What make you thing they can actually afford the medicines for paracties/diseases that are very easy to catch? Condoms? People will still have sex regardless. If overpopulation was serious to the point of attack,they will use alt methods like genocide.
SgtThom 6 months ago
@Llortsaccount
Do you ignore that fact that most of these govements are corrupt and giving rights to women alone wouldn't be absolutely illogical? Unless of course the US decides to come in and overthrow the previous government. Judging by history bring more harm than good.
SgtThom 6 months ago
I love all the wannabe global elitist comments on these "over-population" videos. Isn't eugenics fun? Hitler would agree with you.
TorontoBoi 7 months ago
one solution stop having sex or use contraceptives
brahjit 7 months ago
@Llort Yes! We need to education women in countries and educate men to allow women their own rights. HOWEVER, we must be very careful to not allow things to get to the stage they are in the USA. In my country, women get far more rights/favoritism than men. To the point of extreme sexism. This needs to be prevented. Condoms need to become cheaper, people must be educated on STDs, the Pill and other contraceptives should be on the shelves, and abortion needs ot be legalized. It is a human right.
vgman94 7 months ago
@vgman94
How does this solve the issue of overconsumpion and overpopulation? Educating women is nigh impossible in poor countries and it would interview with many cultures and views. Why would education solve the current oil crisis? Having less children would be a disadvantage in third world because of disease.
"people must be educated on STDs,"
You're not aware of diseases that are far more common and easier to get with out sex? Is it possible to avoid things like River blindness?
SgtThom 6 months ago
@Llortsaccount Some, yes, but what makes people get so eager to go into first-world countries? Because there's a lot of corruption in 3rd world countries, and poverty as you point out. Education is there to fix that. With so many people being born, education will do little good. We need to tackle population first to get a better chance to implement effective education.
vgman94 7 months ago
@Llortsaccount You just grabbed the ball and dropped it. The best way to fix poverty (even then, people can still become poor even if they were billionaires before) and overpopulation is through education. But that won't directly help the survival rate unless more people who work become doctors or scientists, and it has nothing to do with making more money. Making money a big focus means people lose integrity in their jobs and leads to malpractice. I know this firsthand with ignorant doctors.
vgman94 7 months ago
@Llortsaccount Education is somewhat subjective. To one, America's education has a few flaws. To another, it may look like garbage. Healthcare takes resources, lack of clean water means an overstretched ecosystem can't support al life on it. Average birth rates of 1.5-2 as opposed to 4? What shall I type in on the search bar to find it more quickly? As far as I know, the only countries with a stable or shrinking population are Germany and Russia. There may be more, but I don't know for sure.
vgman94 7 months ago
@Llortsaccount And how do most wars start? Because they're on a search for more resources. Money, land, sometimes just food. Wars from 10.000 years ago were because of basic needs. Sure, now and then, a war is started because of greedy people who want to rule the world or a certain land, but most wars start because of resource needs increasing. Why? Because of overpopulation. More people means more food, land, water and other resources are consumed and the needs of the nation increase.
vgman94 7 months ago
@Llortsaccount Considering your ego and dishonest lies about liberals, I doubt you're above lying to make yourself look better. With your spelling, I doubt you could make more than a few thousand dollars. Poverty is caused by overpopulation. Think: make 40.000$ a year, which is enough for a couple with 2 kids and a FEW luxuries. With 1, they'd be wealthy With 3, they couldn't afford luxuries. With 4-5-6, they'd be poor. Overpopulation helps poverty, which in turn feeds overpop. It's a cycle.
vgman94 7 months ago
@Llortsaccount Why would I do that when I can kill many more retards like you? Since you love people so much, go donate your house, all your money and possessions, convince your wife, dog and kids to give their money as well to save starving kids in Africa.
vgman94 7 months ago
@Llortsaccount China's only good law is the 1-child law. LOOK at the world! TIGERS, LIONS, DOLPHINS, WHALES, SHARKS, entire FORESTS AND MOST OF LIFE ON EARTH IS DYING THANKS TO YOU FUCKING BREEDERS! STOP this insanity and WAKE UP! Life is not all about YOU.
vgman94 7 months ago
@vgman94 Great work! Keep it up!
mphello 3 months ago
@mphello I truly appreciate the thought. I really do, but this was 4 months ago. But thanks for reminding me of this video. It's good to see people waking up about the problems around.
vgman94 3 months ago
@Llortsaccount What a bunch of sick lies. Liberals do NOT support forced abortion. We support legality of abortion and for people to see it as an option, not a sin or murder or whatever else you conservitards think it is. And NO-ONE, absolutely no-one wants to mandate an age limit. Why lie like that? Do you see us as such a threat that you need to lie? Or were you just bottle-fed these rabid lies by extreme right-wing idiots?
vgman94 7 months ago
@Llortsaccount Glad you agree with me about euthanasia and pain killers.
Anesthesia is rightfully the greatest invention in the history of humans.
Can you imagine what surgery would be like without it?
mphello 7 months ago
@Llortsaccount Conservaturds FORCE TRILLIONS of animals to needlessly be tortured and killed in factory farms because conservaturds have NO morality and NO ability to accept the CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR ACTIONS if it means changing their eating habits or consumption or buying habits.
Conservaturds want to force MASS STARVATION by forcing BILLIONS of babies into this world - and then stand in the way of climate action.
Conservaturds oppose UFO disclosure and freedom of speech to talk about it.
mphello 7 months ago
@phello They also oppose Abortion rights because they feel a fetus is more important than a woman who wants to live freely in life. They feel a fetus which scientifically doesn't have a mind, consciousness, the ability for any kind of physical+mental pain or emotions. They prefer a mindless clump of cells over disabled people who need stem cell research, men who would be forced to pay alimony for nearly 2 decades and women who don't have the resources, mentally & economically to care for a baby.
vgman94 7 months ago
@Llortsaccount Conservaturds are the ones who support mass murder (capital punishment, anthropogenic global warming). I'm for war - where both sides at least have an equal chance at killing each other.
Conservaturds support forcing women to die from forced childbirth.
Conservaturds supports fascist prison sentences for things that shouldn't be crimes in the first place, like euthanasia.
Conservaturds OPPOSE CHOICE on euthanasia and marijuana.
mphello 7 months ago
@Llortsaccount Conservaturds are fucking worthless anti-American cowardly scum.
They support wars only to INCREASE wealth inequality and power inequality, whereas true radicals support wars to DECREASE wealth inequality - like the revolutions in Greece.
Conservaturds SUPPORT theocracies like Saudia Arabia or freeloading christian churches in America not paying their fair share of taxes.
Radicals SUPPORT freedom of choice of private matters: pot, pornography, homosexual marriage.
mphello 7 months ago
Never trust anybody who says the world is overpopulated and needs fewer people since they logically aren't talking about themselves or they'd have committed suicide,,,which leaves you and the rest of the human race they're planning to murder at the first opportunity most likely to steal all your property for themselves.
Texasjim2007 7 months ago
@Texasjim2007 What stupid comment. The population is too high for the resources available, and so there needs to be less Humans being born. Why is half of the U.S. paranoid and retarded?
amemy1 6 months ago
@Texasjim2007 @Texasjim2007 World IS overpopulated by human. If I say it, it doesn't mean that I would recommend to kill anybody. It just means that people should not produce no more than 2 children per couple. Birth control is the solution, not murdering. I am only 45 years old, but during my short lifetime the world's human population doubbled. Think about it. And - the more people on the planet, the less recources for other living being - plants, animals etc.
KristelSitz 6 months ago
@Texasjim2007 The point of bringing overpopulation under control is to improve the quality of life for those of us already here. Less babies now means less parasites sucking up natural resources and more for the rest of us. No one is advocating genocide or suicide. Learn to logic.
batmanpronz 6 months ago
Institutionalised Cannabilism:
The systemic and organised reduction of dispensable surplus population through abortion, euthanisation of the senescent, the physically and mentally infirm and the economically disadvantaged; and utilising the mortal remains as a tenable food resource proportionately distributed to those who have adequately demonstrated their viability as productive appurtenances of the collective human society.
Problem solved.
WhisperPathsOfLight 7 months ago 16
@WhisperPathsOfLight
Collectivism is the problem not the solution.
Types of collectivism:
Corporatism, communism, and nationalism
The Chinese were encouraged to have children for the good of the nation causing the boom, this is an example of the collectivist mentality.
Statistics are used to argue 1 child laws are bad for the economy
Control freaks caused the problem. Let people OD, get abortions, have birth control,war, fuck without any social pressure of having a family.
riverlioness 7 months ago
@riverlioness FINALLY! FINALLY! FINALLY! The VERY first anti-communist who is LOGICALLY CONSISTENT by admitting that corporatism and nationalism are ALSO forms of collectivism just like communism.
One can argue the positives and negatives of collectivism separately. But, the important thing is:
FINALLY somebody but myself has acknowledged that!
(No, I am not being sarcastic about you. You are sincere. I am sarcastic about all the idiot fanatics I have had to fight.)
mphello 7 months ago
@riverlioness Glad you finally realized NATIONALISM is collectivism, too.
Now, if we could only get all the millions of other anti-communists to be logically consistent and acknowledge that ultra NATIONALISTIC laws are just as bad - in fact, far worse - than communist laws. True communist law is meant only to pay workers equally and more than the nonworking lazy capital owners. It says NOTHING about abortion, marijuana, owning guns, pornography.
mphello 4 months ago
@WhisperPathsOfLight
I only wish it were that easy. All those "morally ethical" little whiners will then start bitching about how "wrong" it is, just because it makes them uncomfortable, and they continue lying to themselves; saying that the world's fine, and that the only proper way to do things is the "right way." Those kinds of idiots are holding us back nowadays. You should add them to your list.
pinheadman665 5 months ago
over population,peak oil, New World Order, Codex Ailmentarious, Terrorism, flouride, aspertame, viruses, starvation,poisons,chemtrails, economic collapse. I'm glad their trying to dumb us down, it's all getting too much. There is nowhere to hide from this encroaching doom. Positive surgestions on a postcard please.
hopaloop 7 months ago
I have a solution to your problem the government should give the option to all people to get self-sterilize and give a lump sump of money to drug addicts to get self-sterilized. This should also be be an option in Africa and other third world countries. Here is also another good example people that have lived on welfare for more than 5 Years must get self-sterilized in order to continue receiving benefits. -One step to solving overpopulation.
halranger 7 months ago
@halranger on va commencer par appliquer vos lois sur vous et vos proches,etes-vous d accord?
sonya28233 7 months ago
Conservatives are the biggest leeches: multiTRILLION dollar corporate welfare and bankster bailouts, 1000X larger salaries for corporate CEOs than the ones who actually do work, christian and muslim churches which don't pay property taxes, and the MILILONS of human-lives and dollars stolen imprisoning people for their private choice to consume marijuana if they want.
First, castrate conservatives (without anesthesia): THEN immediately torture them to death AFTERWARDS.
mphello 8 months ago
Totally stupid to keep arguing this "elites" vs "the poor" as a way of ignoring overpopulation, which comes down to claiming: better that BOTH sides be allowed to overpopulate (i.e. better no laws to mandate vasectomies for anyone) than to mandate laws against breeding for only the poor. So WHAT? I'm going to keep demanding BOTH the "elites" and "poor" stop breeding.
The elites (conservatives) need to be castrated because they consume 10X per capita what the poor do.
mphello 8 months ago
I'm a Green Party member: not a member of the far-right extremist tea party, which is just a bullshit arm of the Republican party.
mphello 8 months ago
Mandate vasectomies for all conservatives and religionists and human meat-eaters. And if they break the law, shove them into prison for life, the way they and THEIR laws have shoved innocent people into prison for doing things that are FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES NOBODY else's business (smoking pot, abortion, homosexual choice, owning a gun, free speech - even if hateful and violent doesn't make it action, it's still abstract ideas). Eating meat tortures non-human animals.
mphello 8 months ago
@mphello "Just get me some Peyote and a Hang-glider." - Albert D. Xavier.
MrBeautifulba1 8 months ago
This video is 3 years old. Hope the human overpopulation problem has been solved by now. (groan, roll eyes)
mphello 8 months ago
there is plenty of space and resources to go around. maybe the balance is off. no one should starve with the amount of food americans alone waste
live4pce 8 months ago
A ethical and fair way of reducing all environmental problems to less than half their current level by the end of this century can be found at "One Planet, One Child" or "overconsumpulation".
phillips78 8 months ago
The problem is we all at some level know we are lead by professional psychopaths with lying, control, manipulation and mass murder their forte – with this personality type at the wheel there can be no trust and without trust we are lost- as John Pilger once said ‘believe nothing until it is officially denied’ we must start to connect with each other properly and- stop believing those dependent on power and ill with greed
ehpl 8 months ago
who gives a fuck?
MRAK47ification 8 months ago
@MRAK47ification Anyone with more than 2 points of IQ. You'll give a fuck when you'll look at your girlfriend and think of killing her for food, or your parents. And have to fight your way past dozens of people just to get some bread and water.
vgman94 8 months ago
@vgman94 lol i have a shotgun.
MRAK47ification 8 months ago
@vgman94 WELL SAID!
mphello 8 months ago
Overpopulation really? maybe for a system that crowds people into relatively tiny city areas to compete for their indentured servitude. Is over population not a myth popularised by the ruling psychopaths because the technology we have created in their sick eyes has rendered what they consider to be ‘the ignorant masses’ obsolete. The ruling psychopaths try to keep us in ignorance so they can use us – they care not about ‘the people’ and never have.
ehpl 8 months ago
@ehpl The problems are because "The people" always ONLY think about "the people." Stop thinking about yourselves. We need to stop overpopulation to stop deforestation, land degradation on the Holocene Extinction event we've created. If we don't it'll come back to destroy us in the end. The world doesn't revolve around humanity. Learn some humility.
vgman94 8 months ago
@vgman94 To get people to stop thinking about themselves is easier said than done- this system conditions western folk to be greedy and self focussed while at the same time it has separated people from a real connection to the earth- unfortunately while we keep choosing to have psychopaths leading us their sickening values simply percolate through and infect the rest of us to different degrees. Of course its worth remembering that in addition to extinction new species are found every day
ehpl 8 months ago
@vgman94 BEST .... COMMENT ....EVER! (so far today)
To expound on that: and we also need to stop thinking about non-human animals only in groups of species, talking as if the only issue is whether the species survives or not, and talk instead about the effects of individual actions on individual animals, in factory farms and laboratories and breeding mills, which is FAR more important than whether a species survives as a whole.
mphello 8 months ago
for those of you talking so much about doing something about overpopulation...wake up. The Elites know this and they and who ever they please would survive...all you are nothing but minions to them like it says in this video. This planet has enough to sustain everyone...all the resources are in the wrong place. ANd all the power and war is NOT caused by religion, youd have to be a labotomized sloth to think that.
bridemusiccanada 8 months ago
sawe the earth im chilling on now i have no danger now
isobodari1 8 months ago
well is it better to have more people or too few people
isobodari1 8 months ago
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Also, when a male and female gets married it's resourceful and it helps to sustain the system.The couple shares landspace,they share the home,they share the washer and dryer,they share the stove and refrigerator,they share the toilet and bathtub,they share the carpet,the paint on the walls,the pictures,the bed,you should get to picture by now.So marriage also helps to sustain the system.
blackman666ful 8 months ago
The moment I heard the guy say "the many symptoms of overpopulation is climate change " I knew I needed to hear no more. Overpopulation is a myth.
informationwarfare 8 months ago
I used to be completely against Pianka, but since studying ecology at university I now realize just how much damage humanity is causing. We are literally decimating the natural ecosystem; even if we stop now we have still done untold irreversible damage to it, with as massive list of species extinct from our greed.
How do we fix it? Man is collectively not rational, thus we need limits to be set on reproduction.
OrthodoxDarwinist 8 months ago
this is like watching a bad high school video project
schwarg 9 months ago
if we all just stay on one ma one woman we aill all be fine? but unfotunately some he goets dont know when to stop.....
patlynw 9 months ago
We can not fight the inevitable.......Nothing lasts forever......
Why should people waste their lives trying to save what is not theirs for the saving?
Without a God there is no hope......End this silly fight to save the world and just enjoy this pleasures we have created......The world will survive with or without us.
Live for today because come tomorrow the universe will have forgotten all about us
Arcflash67 9 months ago
@Arcflash67 If nothing else we as a species are problem creators and problem solvers- this ‘living for the day’ stuff is just conditioning in selfishness given to us by the ruling psychopaths- we have the tools and capacity to live in peace and balance with nature but as long as those ill personality types keeps manipulating their way to the top we shall have more problems than solutions.
ehpl 8 months ago
@Arcflash67 You are an idiot.
TheMercilessEye 8 months ago
Overpopulation is the reason why I never shed a tear when I hear about the plight of the third world. Until such people can learn to subsist within their own environment then they're better thought of as out of control vermin.
KevinBusomjack 9 months ago
@KevinBusomjack Out of control vermin? You're pretty sick aren't you. And what of Americans? Have we learned to 'subsist within our own environment' in your opinion? We consume 19 million barrels/day of oil, yet we produce only 5.3 million. We've got 40% of our population that's classified as obese. Does that make us out of control vermin too?
sdavis3398 9 months ago
@KevinBusomjack Finally, a logical comment. I feel the same. I could really care a less about 3rd world countries issues when American has many of its OWN. We freaking send $ to other countries when we're in SERIOUS, unsolvable debt ourselves.... WTF?! We NEED to be sending STERILIZATION VACCINES to spare any future, useless 'offsprings' with nothing to LIVE for but poverty, hunger & hopelessness. Incompetent, destitute people should not BREED! I will NOT waiver from my logic.
recyclecongress 8 months ago
@recyclecongress You seem keen to do it, go sterilize yourself. Don't tell anyone else what to do.
informationwarfare 8 months ago
@informationwarfare FYI, I stopped at 1 kid and DID afterwards get 'sterilized.' How about YOU? At least I'm doing MY part and not contributing to OVERpopulation!
recyclecongress 8 months ago 3
@recyclecongress Wow I just re-read your previous comment " Incompetent, destitute people should not BREED! I will NOT waiver from my logic." You really are a horrible person if you think that.
And no I am no sterilized, and I don't consent to vaccines. What person in their right mind would take a sterilization vaccine?
informationwarfare 8 months ago
@informationwarfare Those who care about their home (the Earth), the other species on it and aren't selfish as to care more for making their own offspring for their own pleasure. Also, considering the state of the world, who wants to live here? Sexism (against women AND men), racism, nuclear weapons, horrible cruelties to animals, unjust legal systems, fear of change, of the different. I'll never have a child because I won't burden the Earth more, and won't condemn a soul to live in this Hell.
vgman94 8 months ago
@vgman94 The Earth is hell because people are too pussy to change it. I will have a child and raise him/her to be a good human being. Most people just put them in public schools and they are raised to be a useless consuming person who cannot learn for themselves.
Having a child out of your own pleasure? It is basically the meaning of life to continue the species and raise a child in your image, you cannot take that away from someone. Things need to change in this world, shit's fucked up.
informationwarfare 8 months ago
@informationwarfare Yeah, but bringing in others to change it for us isn't right either. People need to face up to themselves as well. So will you teach your child to think more deeply than just looking at the surface? Teach him to be tolerant and open to difference or change? To be kind to humans, pets, animals & other beings in general? Question: What exactly did you mean by raising your child in your image? Shouldn't they be themselves? Individuals? I mean help them develop themselves, but...
vgman94 8 months ago