have the truth about this and if you search around history you will never see any existence of albanian and bulgarian nation
you will also see that macedonian nation and greece nations was in conflict in the all historys before alexander the great and after alexander the great
you will also see that serbia were totally neutral with macedonia
and that balcan halfisland name comes from ottomans because they have seen so many nations in small land fight eachother bloody and there was like hell
macedonian nation have routes by ancient macedonians that was talking laten language and than later they wanted to change their language with the help of slavs teachers in order to defend their nation by greece nations and their spys
that way they would not be able to spy their military tactics and attacks
the teaching was spreader across whole eastern europe with banishing the slav nation away from macedonian country and nation that prove macedonians that are not slavs
those people and nation came after the ottomans are banished from the balcan with idea of keeping the muslim world into european part deep inside using the religion
those people and nation at ottoman time was banished by southern turkey
their origins is coming by kurt nation that are still today in conflict with turkey and they use terror there
bulgaria was not even exist these times and nobody knew that is bulgaria or will be bulgaria
that was thrace which was conquered by filip the father of alexander the great
later into the new history after the ottomans are removed and banished from balcan (ex macedonian) halfisland
and the ww1 and ww2
there was austrian prince that have payed milions of people to make that country be call by name bulgaria with using schools of different language than macedonian lang...
macedonia was nation that was against those nation and they conquer them at the alexander times as revenge of the dead of his father by those nations that later merge themself and call themself greece
think also that those nations was living into the mountains and some of these was africans
greek , bulgarian , albanian , serbian , (old slovenians)
we are antic nation that live in the balcan half island call by name as macedonian half island before ottomans came in
we dont have bulgarian , greek,serbian,albanian , slavs people
we have macedonian people that are not at all connected with all these other nations that just fight eachothers who and which is macedonia and what is the name of it's nation and peop
Human Rights Watch , Amnesty International, and the European Community have the Greek oppression of the Macedonians well documented, found Greece guilty, and demanded that it recognize the Macedonian language and nation and end its oppression. Despite of it, the Macedonians continue to exist in Greece as majority in the northern half of Aegean Macedonia and as minority in the southern half, and peacefully continue to demand their human rights. Will Greece ever became a democracy?
the truth we are Bulgarians we will side with our country men and germany and then after we defeat the real macedonians the greeks we will take over the world. Just in case germany lose we will say we are serbians and the bulgarians changed our language . The will belive us because we are ofcale chopan shiptar who will believe the real truth that we killed The greek macedonian And they will think the greeks killed us when the truth is we killed our chopan brothers.
2.GREEK DEMOCRACY??? in 2011) Greek Democracy oooh yes you will always find cheap answer,,,,and today for EXSODUS from...innocent.....exodus of children and women.in1913 and 1948,,,,,,You are in....The European Court of Human Rights.....Good times!!!Good luck?????
(GREEK) DEMOCRACY IN 2011 :)))) Fasistic Work Live in EUROPA (HAI HITLLER) :))))
When you understand the real definition of democracy we may have a meaningful conversation. To put it simply The bulgarians where sent back home macedonia is greek stop clutching at the straws of propaganda. You have no proof that the Macedonians were not greek. And by the way Thessalanike not salun you PEDER CYRIL CONSTANTINE and Methodios Greeks you OFCA
Greeks claim that those children were abducted by a communists and were not exiled by fascist Greeks. Lets hear some of those children and what they say how it was. If they really were abducted why democratic Greece a member of European Union didn't let them for long years to visit their birthplace?
its disgusting of what the greeks have done to the macedonians...first they take our land, then they torture and kill innocent macedonians, then change the macedonians names (in greece) and now they want to change our countrys name??!?!? were not changin our name because we are macedonians and u cant tell us who we are!
Thus, the Serbs, the Bulgarians and the Greeks succeeded in partitioning Macedonia among themselves in 1913 with the treaty of Bucharest, and with this act most of ancient Macedonia was incorporated into the Greek state for the first time (Borza 1990).
Sunday, November 30th, 2003, the Canadian Historical Society
@PeceFromHeraklea but you are not Makodonians. The Makedonians spoke in a Greek dialect, wrote in Greek and practised Greek customs... you speak a Slavic/Bulgarian tongue and came to the region of Makodonia 6th century AD... YEARS and YEARS after the Makedonian Empire. The Greek Makedonians were in Pella and the region all this time...
first of all. The video is complete fake 1:04 there werent that kind of automobiles in the world in 1913. The pictures are fake and there werend colored video in that time ...2:24 these are bulgarians units around the head of their chief Atanas Korssakof near Kastoria(Hpirus not Macedonia ) after the greeks killed him. 2:28 is a Bulgarian Komitantz as they have been called in the Battle of Macedonia . 2:30 these are not greeks cause the greek army didnt have these kind of hats in the army...FAKE
@alexthehistorian Which army are you talking about.Is it the communists,who had Macedonians(70 % of it) joined and fought against the Faschists and Germans,who later betrayed MAcedonians and joined The MOnarchofascist Army helped by Brits.MAcedonians liberated Greece,in the same army fighting the Germans and MAcedonians were 70% of it.And after treaty signed,and they betrayed,exiled,expeled,killed,and refugees to many other countries in the world.Is that why you are erasing everything MAcedonian
Even our first president Kiro Gligorov said that. It is with great sorrow we see our country is exploited by the USA and NATO to put a step at the Balkans and in this way to bring instability to Europe. I wish my co-patriots understand this soon, before it is too late.
@zokidac U know why u slavs are calling Thessaloniki Solun,,, Its because it reminds u of ur old homeland. a big city lies in Mongolia called Solun.... Only Slavs (fyromians) are calling Thessaloniki Solun so u just so to everyone where are u from... Pathetic
Stop the lies!!! In 1912 the bulgarians were the majority of Macedonia! My grandmother was from Thesaloniki (or Solune) and she was bulgarian. The teror in Macedonia was directed to bulgarians!
btw, bro, the "greek" crimes on Macedonians started lot before 1912, long before the Ilinden Uprising. i guess they started with the crimes as soon as the west europeans created their puppet new state called greece
reasons are so obvious. Otoman Empire was the enemy at that time, and having a puppet state(s) (like greece, bulgaria and albania) on the Balkans was big benifition, because the Balkan population would be cannon futter, and the germans were sending Kings ro rule the puppet states
that way, they were insuring that the puppet states will be their allies and serve the role prepared for them, to be those who will be weakening the Otoman Empire, and preparing the terain for the west-instaled rulers of the "new turkey" - the so called Young-Turks (MladoTurci)
and to close the circle, it is logic that puppet state under german king will try expand teritory and population. specialy if that population are Makedoni, one of the best Soldiers in the world.
so, those Makedoni who were "hellenized" in the beginning (we should NOT concider them as traitors, because those people were put on unseen propaganda and brainwashing), were "good Makedoni", and all those who were posible threat, specialy those who were fighting / ready to fight for Independat Makedonia, suposed to be eliminated or expelled.
that is why the crimes even against inocent children, woman, old people.
it is planed genocide, planed exodus, ensuring that the puppet will stay puppet
@LihnidRootz dear friend, you say i don't read history, but your comments make me think it's you that you don't know history... PLEASE go to wikipedia and search for "ancient macedonians", "ancient macedonian language", "alexander the great" etc. wikipedia is an international site, and does NOT lie.
whoever taught you the history you know is brainwashing you. but that's ok to me cauz i'd do the same if i was macedonian
@LihnidRootz i know you are proud of your country, and i respect it. i know you hate greeks, and i understand it. but PLEASE, give me clues about the history you know. show me proof. if you can find a good INDEPENDENT website that can make me believe what you say please tell me.
@HomerMakeDonski these moving pictures? you mean the pictures in the video? they are REAL. i didnt say they aren't. and i repeat> every war makes people die. war is a terrible thing and unfair. and yes, i consider wikipedia as an independent website. it was not made by greeks or by you
@LihnidRootz i never insulted you... and yes, i would like to have a conversation with you, but not about the creation of modern greece, but about the creation of the republic of macedonia.
"The 20th century development of a "Macedonian" ethnicity, and its recent evolution into independent stathood following the collapse of the Yugoslav state in 1991, has followed a rocky road. In order to survive the vicissitudes of Balkan history and politics, the "Macedonians", WHO HAVE HAD NO HISTORY, NEED ONE" -Eugene Borza
Hello,Im from the USA and my father is an archeologist he studied and discovered Greek,Macedonian,Persion and Italian history and culture... Long time ago the Greeks were realy inteligent and crative people and they discovered many things that we must acept but the truth is that they were a tribe also as the Macedonians before the Slovenian "Invasion"...Greeks were a small tribe and the Macedonians a bigger one ... A very small peace of the greek teritori was actuely theres... ^^^^^^^^^^
The Macedonians Conqered and revolved more than the greeks and without the Macedonians Greek Could not be Greece... If we go with their mind if Macedonia is Greek than all of Persia should be Macedonian ... So i support the Macedonians becose the trouth is theres and greece has no right to say any shit about the macedonians ... Lets Face it Macedonia ISNT Greece Greece IS Macedonia ... =) thanks
Now, you fyromians really require these myths, your lack of self worth so revealed by your race & ethnic conscious effort to usurp a nationality, as if it were yours, when you have no relationship with them at all. The problem you have is we would have to deny what has been written, what we see, what we know, we would have to wipe are minds clear to believe your myths, if this were 2000BC it may have worked but alas, UR 3000 yrs to late to get away with UR myths. Thank God for that.
people of FYROM. i know that greeks did all these bad things to you in 1913, but war is always bad and people are always killed. greeks didn't kick you out of your land. they tried to get THEIR land back, because macedonian people were actually greeks (alexander the great). if you still think you are macedonians READ WIKIPEDIA
read history, maybe you will learn that the modern greeks LEARNED how to speak greek, because their mother language was MACEDONIAN, Albanian, Vlach, Jedish / Hebrew, Bulgarian (or bad Macedonian) and Turkish
idiots in a fascist state with a fascist education system, that is what you are!
"greek", my ass...
you have no idea what the ancient greeks were, and claiming you are their succesors is best example HOW STUPID YOU ARE
down with your fascist regime! freedom for Makedonia
all these bad things have been made by greece...?? OmG .... plz searche more read more and think more !!! you believe in a propaganda that some ppl have profit from these (in your goverment) .... boulgar are ready to accept you as their country wake up guys plz !!!
All Macedonians in Greece call themselves Macedonians there never existed a rule you can not call yourself Macedonian! The Greeks that left during the late 18th century to early 19th century were leaving because of the Communist, Fascist, & various schisms that were going on! You are Macedonians, Greek Macedonians, Tito's propaganda created & made up Macedonian Ethnicity. There is no Macedonian Nationality, or Ethnicity. Just Greek, Bulgarian, Albanian, or Serb. You figure out where you Belong!
you are soooo wrong! Greece is a fake country with a fake history... you twist the truth and deny the existence of Macedonia! Look at the video and see what your ancestors did! Shame on you! Shame on you Greeks!
The reason people live in the delusion that Macedonia is Yugoslavian is Josip Broz Tito's propaganda. All he cared about was access to the Mediterranian sea and fabricating the story described in this video was the way he attempted to achieve it with. He wanted his country's capital to be Thessaloniki, a city that has always been Greek. His plan failed obviously but he managed to brain-wash people into believing his fabrication. And they still do today. Read history to find the truth.
Greeks living in the northern provinces suffered terribly during the civil war that followed World War II while rejecting their own Communist uprising that consumed countries to their north. Thousands were slaughtered by the bulgarians, albanians, tito. stalinists who also have eyes on Macedonia. For Greeks, its not merely an ancient name they lay claim to but their very heritage—they would live in freedom or die fighting for it. Since they live on the best lands of ancient Macedon.
@irantianturki, How can you steal something you are. Only Greeks are Macedonians. the fyronmians are free in fyrom with their bulgar/albano language and attire. There even free to try and steal a GREEK Heritage but NO ONE BELIEVES THEM and that's the RUB. Hell, if I was them I would want to be GREEK ALSO.
Which encyclopedias should we open and read ?........the ones written by the British ! oh but wait, didnt they help create your state back in 1830, they are anti-Macedonian - of course you would refer to them as sources !
@Chovek1 Idiot what a stupid statement. Yes the British helped us to create a state. As did France as did Russia. But u pathetic Slav know that UK and Russia has accepted ur Fake Nation as MAcedonia??? Only france have not accepted ur name ... Read the new Monkeydonian
@alexthehistorian What planet do you live on ? You really think only UK & Russia has accepted my country as Macedonia ? For your information 125 countries recognize us as Macedonia, including 4/5 permanent members of the UN Security Council, the exception being France
@tosevska1 LISTEN SOMETHING MY FRIEND...THIS WILL BE MY ANSWER FOR YOUR COMMENT.WE HAVE THE NAME HELLAS BEFORE CHRIST.AND I WILL SAY YOU ONLY THIS PHRASE:"ΠΑΣ ΜΗ ΕΛΛΗΝ ΒΑΡΒΑΡΟΣ"THAT MEANS EVERYONE THAT IS NOT GREEK(HELLENIC) IS BARBARIAN.THAT WAS SAID FROM A PERSON IN ANCIENT GREECE.AND ALSO REMEMBER THE HELLENIC REVOLUTION ON 1821(BECAUSE U SAID NOTHIG BEFORE 1829).REGARDS
u was there u know about alexaders mother? that video its not even real,to me u turks are barbarian.thats the truth 4 ur side each country teach the history with difreand sides.u wasnt there u dont know
I want to make a response to all the Macedonian people that are blaming Greece:WE ARE GREEK AND WE HAVE A CULTURE FROM WHEN YOU DIDNT KNOW WHO IS YOUR MOTHER.AND DONT SAY THAT OUR GOV IS BRAINWASHING US...!AT LEAST YOU DONT HAVE A NAME YET AND YOU ARE DOING CONFERENCES.WE HAVE THIS NAME THOUSANDS OF YEARS NOW...LOOK NOW WHO REALLY HAS IDENTITY AND WHO NOT...!FUCKING ASSHOLES THAT U WANT TO BE CALLED MACEDONIANS...
They tell you who you are because you have an identity crises and your trying to take something a tribe of slavs haven't slightest reason to believe you should be a part of since you are 600AD movins. If your ancient enemy the Persians call you Greeks with SUN-HATS, your Greek notice they didn't say slavs, bulgarians, albanians, etc, thy said GREEK. Hope that helps you. if not that's your problem.
you leave in greece look around you everything smel greece!!!!kostantinoupolis mongol go home!!!smyrni is greek!!!!killers!!!mongols & monkeydonians history thieves!!!!!!!!!
Bulgarians you're not Macedonian and never will be. I understand the overwhelming desire but you people are a 600AD immigrants to the area and nothing more. Hell if I were you I would want to be Macedonian Greek also. Everyone wants to be a part of Alexander, and you are somewhat , you live in lands he once owned but he was from Pella, Greece, his mother was Eprius, Greece, His father, was from Pella, Greece. They have a Dorian Greek History not, slavic, tartar,turkic.
You are Bulgarians and Albanians, not Macedonians. Macedonians are only GREEK. The nazi's were your ancestors who joined Hitler and the axis powers. Then you became communists and when tito and stalin lost the Greek Civil War they named you Macedonian because of that loss. That is your History lesson for the Ages.
Just like they invented the name Bizantia. The name of this empire was East Roman empire. But the greeks don't like it it's not to much conected with greece and change it.
when you post all this bullshit, your grandmother is fucked by kolokotronis in the next room opote klase mas ta arxidia mounopano.... if you want to talk about slavery lets see what you did to us for 400 year and in one day you took the poulo(25/3/1821)!!! ARXIDI!!!! PANATHINAIKOS- FENERBACHE 3-0 STO KOLARAKI SAS!!!!!!!!
And this is not about teritorial climes, or changeing the borders. This is about greece to stop the change the history of this region, to stop distroying of the bulgarian heritage there and to give a real freedom of those people who want to call themselfs bulgarians. Not to use cheap tricks to call them slavs speeking greecs. It is like to call the greecs in Turkey indoeuropian speeking turkish. This is idiocy.
The antic macedonian nation not exist from nearly 2000 years. This antic macedonians are flow in the modern nations of Greece, Albania, Bulgaria(includig Rep. Macedonia). Who is successor of there historic heritage is dispute question. But this is totaly diferent problem. By the all medieval and modern times, until 1912 the greec ocupation, Agean Macedonia was populated whith bulgarians. Who were object of inhuman etnic cleansing, and were replaced with greecs from Asia minor.
we can show you millions of pictures of greek people tortured because of ww2. war is bad but you also killed people. just cause you put some pictures and tell stuff dramatically doesnt say anything. macedonia is greek because it has greek language and traditions, you are slavs and your language and alphabet are totally different than ancient macedonia, ours is the same. You cant even call him by his name, you call him alexander, its ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ. you steal our history, not we.
Don't change the history of Agean Macedonia, don't destroy the bulgarian historic heritage there. And give a freedom for those few thousends bulgarians who left there. Thats it nothing more. We do this for the greecs who are in Bulgaria. That is what the greecs can do to make the life of people around them better.
you are sucesor of my ass ape as i am themistoklis and ancient greeks.look how you make your life better and the other around you.and cut the crap.remember if you are not an officer of military you are just a bullet remember that
yes this is true!we kicked slavs out as they kicked as out of thrace and asia minor.that dont mean you are macedonians again you are slavsssssssss.whatever that means being slav or greek or turk malakies
And yes before 100 years it was bulgarian population there. There was a referendom in the ottoman empire in XIX century and the population in the areas of Lerin(Florina), Voden(Edessa), Kostur(Kastoria), Kukush(Kilkis), Siar(Seress) even Solun(Tessaloniki) chose to be in the BULGARIAN EKZARHI and to be free from the greece patriarchi.
Where the shit get brainwashed with all these nazililke storytales?...
What are u people? You are totally ignorant! You have absolutely a totalitarian regime behavior! Is it all about you're starving? Where the hell did you get this ridiculous idea of being in relation with Greece's history and having a name that you don't even know what doe's it mean! Get a life poor people!!!
Where the shit get brainwashed with all these nazililke storytales?...
What are u people? You are totally ignorant! You have absolutely a totalitarian regime behavior! Is it all about you're starving? Where the hell did you get this ridiculous idea of being in relation with Greece's history and having a name that you don't even know what doe's it mean! Get a life poor people!!!
About 60% of the greecs who live now in Agean Macedonia are whit origin from Asia minor(Mala azia). Anather 20% are gurkomaniacs - Assimilated bulgarians and vlahs. And only 20% are greecs who lived there before the greec ocupation. Even they was not a majority of population in Solun (Tesaloniki) the majority was the jews. What the turks did to the greecs in Asia minor the same thing did the greecs whith the bulgarians in Agian Masedonia. Its the same now, there is now freedom and human rights
Sestro they needed our land to survive, because thats where all the goldmines were, they were just a pile of rocks and had nothing ! Greece was bankrupt in the late 1800's and in terrible trouble financially - so they stole our land & our wealth !
Josef Stalin who made the Russian state biger then ever and spred the russian influence over the half planet is from Georgian origin. And the Georgian nation is CONECTET whit Russian nation, but georgians are not russians. The island of Sicily is to CONECTET whit the anciant medieval greek history but why the greecs not make the problems of the italians. Greece ocupated Agean Macedonia killed and expelled the bulgarian population and put there greecs from asia minor thats it.
Yes I accept that in present days Agean Macedonia its greece. And I know that the majority of the population there are greecs now. But I want from you to not change the histori. In the past was not like that. In my neighborhood most people, there grandparents, are refugest from greece.
The conception for greek Macedonia is born from greek megaliidea one grandomaniacs fantasi whitout real historic base. The greek said that ancient macedonian were CONECTET whit ancient greek and because of that they are greeks. Even that the gratest kings of antic greek are macedonians that not mean that the anciant macedonians are greek. In modern times the greec king Georg I(1863-1913) was from Danish origin. So is this mean that the danish are greecs.
Bulgaria will never forget what the greecs and serbs and there enichari gurkomani and serbomani did in Macedonia. 1/3 part of Bulgarian population are refugees from Agean and Vardar Macedonia. In Bulgaria live 2 times more Macedonians from republic of Macedonia.
Yes it is a true Bulgaria is full whit refugees from Belomorska Macedonia. There grandchildrens in Bulgaria are between 500 000 and 1 000 000. The grandparents of our ex chairman of parlament Georgi Pirinski are from there and many ather popular Bulgarians. Б
a hole nation trying to be someone else!! history and ethnism is the bloud dear friends!! we are born greeks we dont just want to be!! the balcan history is attached one to another... but u... want something that u never had!! and the prouf is that all u guys never won a thing!! u are the garbage of the balcans!!! and u dont deserve history!!!
hahahahahahahahahaaha.... the bulgarian speaks from vardarska!!!!!! atlist we have a language from ancient years!!!
history is greek invention!! u dont even learn at school!!! remimber stupid... ur children that grow up here become little americans!!! no home no location no history!!!
Bravo za videoto ! nekade tamu, megu site tie deca na videoto , tamu bile i moite baba i dedo ! navistina zhalno e toa shto im go napravile Grcite ! no svetot ke vidi i ke chue ! pozdrav !
Makedoncite se podlozini na etnicki chistenja preku 2000 godini!Da ne zaboravi me i deka rimjanite koga ja izvrsija prvata podelba na Makedonija vo 168 nova era.donesle zakon so koj se nareduva unistuvanje na makedoncite i makedonskoto!Nie ucime i cel zivot ni kazuvaat za rimski iskopi,grcki i jas se prasuvam pa nie sme preku 8000 godini na taa krvava Makedonska zemja i nisto li ne izgradivme?!Da ne se lazeme Makedonija e zemjata sto ja sozdade Evropa i se ostanato!
Ќе дојде денот кога ќе се наплатат овие тортури врз македонците.Ќе дојде денот кога ќе си ја земат казната сите оние кои го бришеа македонското.Не човек,не ние македонците...Господ ќе ги наплати страдањата и на најмалата пролеана солза.
Greece really need to stop fucking animals and say sorry bro.
historyfathead 2 months ago
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macedonia trough history and today
macedonia forever!
macedonians never forget
macedonians never give up
long live macedonia
MrsELENASOLUN 7 months ago
macedonia trough history and today
macedonia forever!
macedonians never forget
macedonians never give up
long live macedonia
the conflict in balcan will never stop until macedonia bacome the country like it was after ottoman empire
and before the 1st balcan war
independ from bulgaria,albania,serbia,greece
nation that is macedonian nation
not serbian,albanian,bulgarian,greek
killerduki 9 months ago
we are macedonian
we are macedonian nation
our country name is macedonia
we talk macedonian language
we are living into territory where macedonia and her capitals are and always been
same as istanbul (old macedonian capital and name was carigrad) city of the king
thessaloniki old name solun that was capital city after ottomans was banished
Remember that PELA was the 1st capital city of macedonia into alexander the great times
that still in that region live macedonian people
killerduki 9 months ago
have the truth about this and if you search around history you will never see any existence of albanian and bulgarian nation
you will also see that macedonian nation and greece nations was in conflict in the all historys before alexander the great and after alexander the great
you will also see that serbia were totally neutral with macedonia
and that balcan halfisland name comes from ottomans because they have seen so many nations in small land fight eachother bloody and there was like hell
killerduki 9 months ago
macedonian nation have routes by ancient macedonians that was talking laten language and than later they wanted to change their language with the help of slavs teachers in order to defend their nation by greece nations and their spys
that way they would not be able to spy their military tactics and attacks
the teaching was spreader across whole eastern europe with banishing the slav nation away from macedonian country and nation that prove macedonians that are not slavs
killerduki 9 months ago
about albanians
those people and nation came after the ottomans are banished from the balcan with idea of keeping the muslim world into european part deep inside using the religion
those people and nation at ottoman time was banished by southern turkey
their origins is coming by kurt nation that are still today in conflict with turkey and they use terror there
killerduki 9 months ago
its same for bulgarians
bulgaria was not even exist these times and nobody knew that is bulgaria or will be bulgaria
that was thrace which was conquered by filip the father of alexander the great
later into the new history after the ottomans are removed and banished from balcan (ex macedonian) halfisland
and the ww1 and ww2
there was austrian prince that have payed milions of people to make that country be call by name bulgaria with using schools of different language than macedonian lang...
killerduki 9 months ago
think about ancient greek nations
that was not greece even
they call themself spartans,athens,and some more
macedonia was nation that was against those nation and they conquer them at the alexander times as revenge of the dead of his father by those nations that later merge themself and call themself greece
think also that those nations was living into the mountains and some of these was africans
killerduki 9 months ago
there is one thing here to say about
macedonia is not and will never be
greek , bulgarian , albanian , serbian , (old slovenians)
we are antic nation that live in the balcan half island call by name as macedonian half island before ottomans came in
we dont have bulgarian , greek,serbian,albanian , slavs people
we have macedonian people that are not at all connected with all these other nations that just fight eachothers who and which is macedonia and what is the name of it's nation and peop
killerduki 9 months ago
Human Rights Watch , Amnesty International, and the European Community have the Greek oppression of the Macedonians well documented, found Greece guilty, and demanded that it recognize the Macedonian language and nation and end its oppression. Despite of it, the Macedonians continue to exist in Greece as majority in the northern half of Aegean Macedonia and as minority in the southern half, and peacefully continue to demand their human rights. Will Greece ever became a democracy?
makedoncheto 1 year ago
@makedoncheto
the truth we are Bulgarians we will side with our country men and germany and then after we defeat the real macedonians the greeks we will take over the world. Just in case germany lose we will say we are serbians and the bulgarians changed our language . The will belive us because we are ofcale chopan shiptar who will believe the real truth that we killed The greek macedonian And they will think the greeks killed us when the truth is we killed our chopan brothers.
MrHozari 1 week ago
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2.GREEK DEMOCRACY??? in 2011) Greek Democracy oooh yes you will always find cheap answer,,,,and today for EXSODUS from...innocent.....exodus of children and women.in1913 and 1948,,,,,,You are in....The European Court of Human Rights.....Good times!!!Good luck?????
(GREEK) DEMOCRACY IN 2011 :)))) Fasistic Work Live in EUROPA (HAI HITLLER) :))))
macedonian326bc 5 days ago
@macedonian326bc
When you understand the real definition of democracy we may have a meaningful conversation. To put it simply The bulgarians where sent back home macedonia is greek stop clutching at the straws of propaganda. You have no proof that the Macedonians were not greek. And by the way Thessalanike not salun you PEDER CYRIL CONSTANTINE and Methodios Greeks you OFCA
MrHozari 5 days ago
@MrHozari CYRIL CONSTANTINE and Methodios Greeks????
CYRIL and Methodiol IF are greek???
why Greece has all the Cyrillic writing ,,,,Destroyed churches and tombs,,,,1913 and 1948 .. and today youtube com
HR TV.
/watch?v=OGwFZVjALR0
GRECE TV. MEGA TV,
/watch?v=ur6UNPl2jq4
/watch?v=olIVTsT3UvQ
macedonian326bc 5 days ago
@MrHozari
.GREEK DEMOCRACY??? in 2011 youtube com
/watch?v=ZP6uc4eg4K8
I am sorry for all my mistakes in translation...
Greeks claim that those children were abducted by a communists and were not exiled by fascist Greeks. Lets hear some of those children and what they say how it was. If they really were abducted why democratic Greece a member of European Union didn't let them for long years to visit their birthplace?
(Watch what does Chindern= SAY) ???
/watch?v=_kPXOxrT8ms
macedonian326bc 5 days ago
FUCK YOU ELADAAAAAAAAAA
ohrid2211 1 year ago
WHAT A LOT OF HOGWASH!!!!!!!!!! KEEP TRYING....THE WORLD WILL EVENTUALLY WAKE UP TO THE BUNCH OF LIARS YOU REALLY ARE!!!!!!!!!!
helios180746 1 year ago
its disgusting of what the greeks have done to the macedonians...first they take our land, then they torture and kill innocent macedonians, then change the macedonians names (in greece) and now they want to change our countrys name??!?!? were not changin our name because we are macedonians and u cant tell us who we are!
opstina30 1 year ago
Thus, the Serbs, the Bulgarians and the Greeks succeeded in partitioning Macedonia among themselves in 1913 with the treaty of Bucharest, and with this act most of ancient Macedonia was incorporated into the Greek state for the first time (Borza 1990).
Sunday, November 30th, 2003, the Canadian Historical Society
PeceFromHeraklea 1 year ago 5
@PeceFromHeraklea but you are not Makodonians. The Makedonians spoke in a Greek dialect, wrote in Greek and practised Greek customs... you speak a Slavic/Bulgarian tongue and came to the region of Makodonia 6th century AD... YEARS and YEARS after the Makedonian Empire. The Greek Makedonians were in Pella and the region all this time...
haris1says1no 15 hours ago
first of all. The video is complete fake 1:04 there werent that kind of automobiles in the world in 1913. The pictures are fake and there werend colored video in that time ...2:24 these are bulgarians units around the head of their chief Atanas Korssakof near Kastoria(Hpirus not Macedonia ) after the greeks killed him. 2:28 is a Bulgarian Komitantz as they have been called in the Battle of Macedonia . 2:30 these are not greeks cause the greek army didnt have these kind of hats in the army...FAKE
alexthehistorian 1 year ago
@alexthehistorian Which army are you talking about.Is it the communists,who had Macedonians(70 % of it) joined and fought against the Faschists and Germans,who later betrayed MAcedonians and joined The MOnarchofascist Army helped by Brits.MAcedonians liberated Greece,in the same army fighting the Germans and MAcedonians were 70% of it.And after treaty signed,and they betrayed,exiled,expeled,killed,and refugees to many other countries in the world.Is that why you are erasing everything MAcedonian
MomciloStojanovski 1 year ago
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All things show that Alexander was Greek.
And no doubt about it.
Even our first president Kiro Gligorov said that. It is with great sorrow we see our country is exploited by the USA and NATO to put a step at the Balkans and in this way to bring instability to Europe. I wish my co-patriots understand this soon, before it is too late.
StefanovTeacher 1 year ago
Fuck Greeeeeeeeeeeeeceeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!!!
FUCKING GREEK FASCIST !!!
United Macedonia
zokidac 2 years ago
@zokidac U know why u slavs are calling Thessaloniki Solun,,, Its because it reminds u of ur old homeland. a big city lies in Mongolia called Solun.... Only Slavs (fyromians) are calling Thessaloniki Solun so u just so to everyone where are u from... Pathetic
alexthehistorian 1 year ago
@ charlesmiles
ha ha ha .. idiot... who told you Bularian books are confiscated in Macedonia... ha ha ha.
You greeks make yourselves look "Dumb and Dumber".
you can get any type of book in Macedonia.
IDIOT GREEK... thats what you are.
makedoncheto 2 years ago
@ spiros66
well done, you know who you are.
you parents must be so proud of you.
Freedom for the Macedonians in Aegean Macedonia.
makedoncheto 2 years ago
Hey! I come from the island of Corfu. I am Corfunian !!!!!!
spiros66 2 years ago
Freedom and Human Rights for 5 million Macedon people in Balkans
istanbulTurki 2 years ago
Stop the lies!!! In 1912 the bulgarians were the majority of Macedonia! My grandmother was from Thesaloniki (or Solune) and she was bulgarian. The teror in Macedonia was directed to bulgarians!
Sten11BG 2 years ago
LihnidRootz
Keep going on. This is a great work
One picture .more than a thousand words.
Show them what their relatives has done with Macedonians.
Let them to know what used to be hidden from them
God Bless you
HomerMakeDonski 2 years ago
Not that we we'll remind as Macedonians but we well come back to our home land of Aegean Macedonia again
HomerMakeDonski 2 years ago
btw, bro, the "greek" crimes on Macedonians started lot before 1912, long before the Ilinden Uprising. i guess they started with the crimes as soon as the west europeans created their puppet new state called greece
reasons are so obvious. Otoman Empire was the enemy at that time, and having a puppet state(s) (like greece, bulgaria and albania) on the Balkans was big benifition, because the Balkan population would be cannon futter, and the germans were sending Kings ro rule the puppet states
LihnidRootz 2 years ago
that way, they were insuring that the puppet states will be their allies and serve the role prepared for them, to be those who will be weakening the Otoman Empire, and preparing the terain for the west-instaled rulers of the "new turkey" - the so called Young-Turks (MladoTurci)
and to close the circle, it is logic that puppet state under german king will try expand teritory and population. specialy if that population are Makedoni, one of the best Soldiers in the world.
more to come...
LihnidRootz 2 years ago
so, those Makedoni who were "hellenized" in the beginning (we should NOT concider them as traitors, because those people were put on unseen propaganda and brainwashing), were "good Makedoni", and all those who were posible threat, specialy those who were fighting / ready to fight for Independat Makedonia, suposed to be eliminated or expelled.
that is why the crimes even against inocent children, woman, old people.
it is planed genocide, planed exodus, ensuring that the puppet will stay puppet
LihnidRootz 2 years ago
@LihnidRootz dear friend, you say i don't read history, but your comments make me think it's you that you don't know history... PLEASE go to wikipedia and search for "ancient macedonians", "ancient macedonian language", "alexander the great" etc. wikipedia is an international site, and does NOT lie.
whoever taught you the history you know is brainwashing you. but that's ok to me cauz i'd do the same if i was macedonian
KavlosteMeViagra 2 years ago
@LihnidRootz i know you are proud of your country, and i respect it. i know you hate greeks, and i understand it. but PLEASE, give me clues about the history you know. show me proof. if you can find a good INDEPENDENT website that can make me believe what you say please tell me.
KavlosteMeViagra 2 years ago
@KavlosteMeViagra
Why hypocrisy and cynicism are coming out of your sentence...good independent website for researching for understanding ...wikipedia does not lie...
What do you think Sir where all these moving pictures has came from ?
From a Photoshop ?
Believe me I wish that it was the case..
HomerMakeDonski 2 years ago
@HomerMakeDonski these moving pictures? you mean the pictures in the video? they are REAL. i didnt say they aren't. and i repeat> every war makes people die. war is a terrible thing and unfair. and yes, i consider wikipedia as an independent website. it was not made by greeks or by you
KavlosteMeViagra 2 years ago
i dont hate greeks. i hate what SOME greeks made to some Macedonians.
I can not understand how an Orthodox Nation, like the greeks are claiming they are, can do such things on other Orthodox people.
We could live together in Aegean Macedonia, ALL of us, there was no need about Genocide and Exodus. Macedonia is producing enough food...
if you are realy interested in learning about the things happened from the creation of modern greece to present day, we can talk, without insults ;)
LihnidRootz 2 years ago
@LihnidRootz i never insulted you... and yes, i would like to have a conversation with you, but not about the creation of modern greece, but about the creation of the republic of macedonia.
KavlosteMeViagra 2 years ago
why not about the creation of modern greece?
we can talk about the creation of both :)
my ancestors fought for the freedom of both, Macedonia and Greece
i will post some material later here, or i will write you private msg
greetings
LihnidRootz 2 years ago
@LihnidRootz ok i agree. i prefer to write me a pvt msg. greetings.
KavlosteMeViagra 2 years ago
ok, i am busy nowadays, but in the next week we can have some discusion about those topics
greetings and have nice Orthodox Holiday ;)
LihnidRootz 2 years ago
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"The 20th century development of a "Macedonian" ethnicity, and its recent evolution into independent stathood following the collapse of the Yugoslav state in 1991, has followed a rocky road. In order to survive the vicissitudes of Balkan history and politics, the "Macedonians", WHO HAVE HAD NO HISTORY, NEED ONE" -Eugene Borza
Hellenicone 2 years ago
Hello,Im from the USA and my father is an archeologist he studied and discovered Greek,Macedonian,Persion and Italian history and culture... Long time ago the Greeks were realy inteligent and crative people and they discovered many things that we must acept but the truth is that they were a tribe also as the Macedonians before the Slovenian "Invasion"...Greeks were a small tribe and the Macedonians a bigger one ... A very small peace of the greek teritori was actuely theres... ^^^^^^^^^^
eXtremeJunkey 2 years ago
The Macedonians Conqered and revolved more than the greeks and without the Macedonians Greek Could not be Greece... If we go with their mind if Macedonia is Greek than all of Persia should be Macedonian ... So i support the Macedonians becose the trouth is theres and greece has no right to say any shit about the macedonians ... Lets Face it Macedonia ISNT Greece Greece IS Macedonia ... =) thanks
eXtremeJunkey 2 years ago
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Now, you fyromians really require these myths, your lack of self worth so revealed by your race & ethnic conscious effort to usurp a nationality, as if it were yours, when you have no relationship with them at all. The problem you have is we would have to deny what has been written, what we see, what we know, we would have to wipe are minds clear to believe your myths, if this were 2000BC it may have worked but alas, UR 3000 yrs to late to get away with UR myths. Thank God for that.
Boukephalos1 2 years ago
people of FYROM. i know that greeks did all these bad things to you in 1913, but war is always bad and people are always killed. greeks didn't kick you out of your land. they tried to get THEIR land back, because macedonian people were actually greeks (alexander the great). if you still think you are macedonians READ WIKIPEDIA
KavlosteMeViagra 2 years ago
lol, IDIOTas
read history, maybe you will learn that the modern greeks LEARNED how to speak greek, because their mother language was MACEDONIAN, Albanian, Vlach, Jedish / Hebrew, Bulgarian (or bad Macedonian) and Turkish
idiots in a fascist state with a fascist education system, that is what you are!
"greek", my ass...
you have no idea what the ancient greeks were, and claiming you are their succesors is best example HOW STUPID YOU ARE
down with your fascist regime! freedom for Makedonia
LihnidRootz 2 years ago
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RETARDED PEOPLE ....
KISSES FROM MACEDONIA
THE REAL MACEDONIA
FROM GREECE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
127 countries recognized ''MACEDONIA ''
REALLY ?WE RECORNIZE ONLY
FYROM !!!!!!!
FYROMITES XAXAXXXA
REDICULUS VIDEOS ...
GROW UP...WILL U COME TO TAKE AND OUR HOMES ? MAYBE WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM YOUR FRIENDS FROM AMERICA ? BLSIT...XAXAXAXAXA
RANIAGA 2 years ago
all these bad things have been made by greece...?? OmG .... plz searche more read more and think more !!! you believe in a propaganda that some ppl have profit from these (in your goverment) .... boulgar are ready to accept you as their country wake up guys plz !!!
dreamermanfr 2 years ago
All Macedonians in Greece call themselves Macedonians there never existed a rule you can not call yourself Macedonian! The Greeks that left during the late 18th century to early 19th century were leaving because of the Communist, Fascist, & various schisms that were going on! You are Macedonians, Greek Macedonians, Tito's propaganda created & made up Macedonian Ethnicity. There is no Macedonian Nationality, or Ethnicity. Just Greek, Bulgarian, Albanian, or Serb. You figure out where you Belong!
SamsonElitsa 2 years ago
@SamsonElitsa
you are soooo wrong! Greece is a fake country with a fake history... you twist the truth and deny the existence of Macedonia! Look at the video and see what your ancestors did! Shame on you! Shame on you Greeks!
msmac0 2 years ago
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The reason people live in the delusion that Macedonia is Yugoslavian is Josip Broz Tito's propaganda. All he cared about was access to the Mediterranian sea and fabricating the story described in this video was the way he attempted to achieve it with. He wanted his country's capital to be Thessaloniki, a city that has always been Greek. His plan failed obviously but he managed to brain-wash people into believing his fabrication. And they still do today. Read history to find the truth.
GreekWonderchild 2 years ago
Nobody accept "kurdistan" but Macedonia is Real Country, 127 countries recognized MACEDONIA
istanbulTurki 2 years ago
Greeks living in the northern provinces suffered terribly during the civil war that followed World War II while rejecting their own Communist uprising that consumed countries to their north. Thousands were slaughtered by the bulgarians, albanians, tito. stalinists who also have eyes on Macedonia. For Greeks, its not merely an ancient name they lay claim to but their very heritage—they would live in freedom or die fighting for it. Since they live on the best lands of ancient Macedon.
Boukephalos1 2 years ago
Greeks stole Macedonian Histroy, Freedom for 5 million Macedon people in United MACEDONIA
istanbulTurki 2 years ago
@irantianturki, How can you steal something you are. Only Greeks are Macedonians. the fyronmians are free in fyrom with their bulgar/albano language and attire. There even free to try and steal a GREEK Heritage but NO ONE BELIEVES THEM and that's the RUB. Hell, if I was them I would want to be GREEK ALSO.
Boukephalos1 2 years ago
hahaha, freedom for kurdistan too:)
SuperThemis 2 years ago
EVEN KEMAL ATATURK WAS GREEK!
egwme 2 years ago
that is the truth and nothing but the fkn truth
dean1sic 2 years ago
This video shows the TRUTH.
Greeks will do all they can to try and hide the TRUTH.
Shame on you greeks
makedoncheto 2 years ago
@makedoncheto EVEN KEMAL ATATURK COMES FROM THESSALONIKI
ALEXANDER THE GREAT WOULDNT UNDERSTAND A WORD OF FYROM LANGUAGE!
egwme 2 years ago
Ethnic Macedonians///hahahaha....
All this are brainwashing Bulgarians!
KilkisGirlMACEDONIA 2 years ago
KukushGirlMacedonia hahahaha the only one brainwashed is you my dear !
Chovek1 2 years ago
Which encyclopedias should we open and read ?........the ones written by the British ! oh but wait, didnt they help create your state back in 1830, they are anti-Macedonian - of course you would refer to them as sources !
Chovek1 2 years ago 2
@Chovek1 Idiot what a stupid statement. Yes the British helped us to create a state. As did France as did Russia. But u pathetic Slav know that UK and Russia has accepted ur Fake Nation as MAcedonia??? Only france have not accepted ur name ... Read the new Monkeydonian
alexthehistorian 1 year ago
@alexthehistorian What planet do you live on ? You really think only UK & Russia has accepted my country as Macedonia ? For your information 125 countries recognize us as Macedonia, including 4/5 permanent members of the UN Security Council, the exception being France
Chovek1 1 year ago
@Chovek1 idiot i just said that beacuse u said that UK support Greeks... how they supporth us if they have accepted ur name
alexthehistorian 1 year ago
@tosevska1 LISTEN SOMETHING MY FRIEND...THIS WILL BE MY ANSWER FOR YOUR COMMENT.WE HAVE THE NAME HELLAS BEFORE CHRIST.AND I WILL SAY YOU ONLY THIS PHRASE:"ΠΑΣ ΜΗ ΕΛΛΗΝ ΒΑΡΒΑΡΟΣ"THAT MEANS EVERYONE THAT IS NOT GREEK(HELLENIC) IS BARBARIAN.THAT WAS SAID FROM A PERSON IN ANCIENT GREECE.AND ALSO REMEMBER THE HELLENIC REVOLUTION ON 1821(BECAUSE U SAID NOTHIG BEFORE 1829).REGARDS
enikone1 2 years ago
ALEXANDER Great was from Macedonia, His mother was Macedonian woman, But Greeks stole Macedonian History for Lands
istanbulTurki 2 years ago
u was there u know about alexaders mother? that video its not even real,to me u turks are barbarian.thats the truth 4 ur side each country teach the history with difreand sides.u wasnt there u dont know
antikira 2 years ago
I want to make a response to all the Macedonian people that are blaming Greece:WE ARE GREEK AND WE HAVE A CULTURE FROM WHEN YOU DIDNT KNOW WHO IS YOUR MOTHER.AND DONT SAY THAT OUR GOV IS BRAINWASHING US...!AT LEAST YOU DONT HAVE A NAME YET AND YOU ARE DOING CONFERENCES.WE HAVE THIS NAME THOUSANDS OF YEARS NOW...LOOK NOW WHO REALLY HAS IDENTITY AND WHO NOT...!FUCKING ASSHOLES THAT U WANT TO BE CALLED MACEDONIANS...
enikone1 2 years ago
5 million Macedon people will be United Macedonia in Balkans, Stop Greek facism on Macedons
istanbulTurki 2 years ago
They tell you who you are because you have an identity crises and your trying to take something a tribe of slavs haven't slightest reason to believe you should be a part of since you are 600AD movins. If your ancient enemy the Persians call you Greeks with SUN-HATS, your Greek notice they didn't say slavs, bulgarians, albanians, etc, thy said GREEK. Hope that helps you. if not that's your problem.
Boukephalos1 2 years ago
pfff... crazy people
SuperThemis 2 years ago
Crazy people ? How about you own up to the truth you mut !
Chovek1 2 years ago
you want a psycho doc dude:) your brain sucks
SuperThemis 2 years ago
You obviously need one more than i do dickhead !
Chovek1 2 years ago
no thanks , i dont want nothing of you... you are miserable
SuperThemis 2 years ago
I'm just fine you idiot not miserable in the least, go kill yourself
Chovek1 2 years ago
Видеото едноставно ме наежи, колку е само добро направено, а пред се е вистинито. Македонче, честитки.
Само незнам до кога светот ќе биди „слеп и нема да ги гледа неправтите што Грција ги направи на Македонија.
ГОСПОД Е НА НЕБО, МАКЕДОНЦИТЕ НА ЗЕМЈА, А ГРЦИТЕ ПОД НЕА!
dovlezik 2 years ago
den eiste makedones gamo t kerato m
xoriatlamades mpastardoi na psofisete re
Panos090405 2 years ago 4
george soros slaves !!!!!skopia nation never die!!!traitors!!!!!!!!!monkeydonians!!!!!
myking73 2 years ago
you leave in greece look around you everything smel greece!!!!kostantinoupolis mongol go home!!!smyrni is greek!!!!killers!!!mongols & monkeydonians history thieves!!!!!!!!!
myking73 2 years ago
Freedom for 5 millions Macedon people in Balkans, Stop Greek facism in Macedonia
istanbulTurki 2 years ago
yeah, sure iranian
Boukephalos1 2 years ago
Bulgarians you're not Macedonian and never will be. I understand the overwhelming desire but you people are a 600AD immigrants to the area and nothing more. Hell if I were you I would want to be Macedonian Greek also. Everyone wants to be a part of Alexander, and you are somewhat , you live in lands he once owned but he was from Pella, Greece, his mother was Eprius, Greece, His father, was from Pella, Greece. They have a Dorian Greek History not, slavic, tartar,turkic.
Boukephalos1 2 years ago
look how dumb the greeks are...
all they do is try to tell you who you are, where you come from, and what language you speak.
I think that when we are talking about me.. let me tell you who i am, what language i speak and where i come from....
stop trying to control people.
I am Macedonian
I come from Republic of Macedonia
I speak Macedonian
makedoncheto 2 years ago
Sorry your not. But I understand completely.
Boukephalos1 2 years ago
Yeah all to do with the Slavic way
FlyingWarrior08 2 years ago
You are Bulgarians and Albanians, not Macedonians. Macedonians are only GREEK. The nazi's were your ancestors who joined Hitler and the axis powers. Then you became communists and when tito and stalin lost the Greek Civil War they named you Macedonian because of that loss. That is your History lesson for the Ages.
Boukephalos1 2 years ago
"It is true that we are Christians but we are not as educated as Greeks! Our heads are not that smart; we are Bulgarians"
Krste Misirkov
hstrnbg 2 years ago
And the serbs do the same in the rep. Macedonia.
Macedonian proverb:
Makedonia bez bulgari ogin da ia gori
Macedonia without bulgarians better to burn in fire.
Goce v groba se obrashta ot surbomani.
hstrnbg 2 years ago
Just like they invented the name Bizantia. The name of this empire was East Roman empire. But the greeks don't like it it's not to much conected with greece and change it.
MrBg681 2 years ago
MACEDONIA will be United Macedonia because Alexander The Great was Macedonian
istanbulTurki 2 years ago
macedonia is not GREEK,not Bulgarian,not Serbian.
Makedonija is makedonija
kaffebarovic 2 years ago
Марш во косово бе сърбоман !!!
MrBg681 2 years ago
Macedonia is by the way Greek you dip shits check the history books!!
XTsinas 2 years ago
We are not turks. You are so unlearned. And the greecs always coloborated whit the turks to killed bulgarians when it was otoman empire.
MrBg681 2 years ago
Ottoman emperors had a Greek advisor and they effected emperors everytime about Balkans, Greeks had more tolerance with games
istanbulTurki 2 years ago
bre ai kai gamisou bromokole
when you post all this bullshit, your grandmother is fucked by kolokotronis in the next room opote klase mas ta arxidia mounopano.... if you want to talk about slavery lets see what you did to us for 400 year and in one day you took the poulo(25/3/1821)!!! ARXIDI!!!! PANATHINAIKOS- FENERBACHE 3-0 STO KOLARAKI SAS!!!!!!!!
XTsinas 2 years ago
And this is not about teritorial climes, or changeing the borders. This is about greece to stop the change the history of this region, to stop distroying of the bulgarian heritage there and to give a real freedom of those people who want to call themselfs bulgarians. Not to use cheap tricks to call them slavs speeking greecs. It is like to call the greecs in Turkey indoeuropian speeking turkish. This is idiocy.
MrBg681 2 years ago
The antic macedonian nation not exist from nearly 2000 years. This antic macedonians are flow in the modern nations of Greece, Albania, Bulgaria(includig Rep. Macedonia). Who is successor of there historic heritage is dispute question. But this is totaly diferent problem. By the all medieval and modern times, until 1912 the greec ocupation, Agean Macedonia was populated whith bulgarians. Who were object of inhuman etnic cleansing, and were replaced with greecs from Asia minor.
MrBg681 2 years ago
we can show you millions of pictures of greek people tortured because of ww2. war is bad but you also killed people. just cause you put some pictures and tell stuff dramatically doesnt say anything. macedonia is greek because it has greek language and traditions, you are slavs and your language and alphabet are totally different than ancient macedonia, ours is the same. You cant even call him by his name, you call him alexander, its ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ. you steal our history, not we.
aguabas 2 years ago
Don't change the history of Agean Macedonia, don't destroy the bulgarian historic heritage there. And give a freedom for those few thousends bulgarians who left there. Thats it nothing more. We do this for the greecs who are in Bulgaria. That is what the greecs can do to make the life of people around them better.
MrBg681 2 years ago
and we the bulgarians not kick you from thrace and asia minor.
MrBg681 2 years ago
you are sucesor of my ass ape as i am themistoklis and ancient greeks.look how you make your life better and the other around you.and cut the crap.remember if you are not an officer of military you are just a bullet remember that
nik303ful 2 years ago
yes this is true!we kicked slavs out as they kicked as out of thrace and asia minor.that dont mean you are macedonians again you are slavsssssssss.whatever that means being slav or greek or turk malakies
nik303ful 2 years ago
The bulgarians are mix from slavs, protobulgarians and thracians. And we are successor of these peopels
MrBg681 2 years ago
5 million Macedon people will be United MACEDONIA in Balkans
istanbulTurki 2 years ago
And yes before 100 years it was bulgarian population there. There was a referendom in the ottoman empire in XIX century and the population in the areas of Lerin(Florina), Voden(Edessa), Kostur(Kastoria), Kukush(Kilkis), Siar(Seress) even Solun(Tessaloniki) chose to be in the BULGARIAN EKZARHI and to be free from the greece patriarchi.
MrBg681 2 years ago
what propaganda
sprtnsprtn 2 years ago
Where the shit get brainwashed with all these nazililke storytales?...
What are u people? You are totally ignorant! You have absolutely a totalitarian regime behavior! Is it all about you're starving? Where the hell did you get this ridiculous idea of being in relation with Greece's history and having a name that you don't even know what doe's it mean! Get a life poor people!!!
andkonr 2 years ago
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Where the shit get brainwashed with all these nazililke storytales?...
What are u people? You are totally ignorant! You have absolutely a totalitarian regime behavior! Is it all about you're starving? Where the hell did you get this ridiculous idea of being in relation with Greece's history and having a name that you don't even know what doe's it mean! Get a life poor people!!!
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andkonr 2 years ago
More than 50 000 refugee children,today old people with more than 60 years,expect to come back in their homes,after 60 years!!!!
CAKIMacedonian 2 years ago
About 60% of the greecs who live now in Agean Macedonia are whit origin from Asia minor(Mala azia). Anather 20% are gurkomaniacs - Assimilated bulgarians and vlahs. And only 20% are greecs who lived there before the greec ocupation. Even they was not a majority of population in Solun (Tesaloniki) the majority was the jews. What the turks did to the greecs in Asia minor the same thing did the greecs whith the bulgarians in Agian Masedonia. Its the same now, there is now freedom and human rights
MrBg681 2 years ago
The Macedonians in Aegean Macedonia were 80-90% in 1903.
forevermkd 2 years ago 5
Sestro they needed our land to survive, because thats where all the goldmines were, they were just a pile of rocks and had nothing ! Greece was bankrupt in the late 1800's and in terrible trouble financially - so they stole our land & our wealth !
Chovek1 2 years ago 3
Josef Stalin who made the Russian state biger then ever and spred the russian influence over the half planet is from Georgian origin. And the Georgian nation is CONECTET whit Russian nation, but georgians are not russians. The island of Sicily is to CONECTET whit the anciant medieval greek history but why the greecs not make the problems of the italians. Greece ocupated Agean Macedonia killed and expelled the bulgarian population and put there greecs from asia minor thats it.
MrBg681 2 years ago
Not bulgarian , MACEDONIAN POPULATION.
baronnmkd 2 years ago
Fine what are you going to do about it? Get over it or do something about it.
skiros14 2 years ago
Yes I accept that in present days Agean Macedonia its greece. And I know that the majority of the population there are greecs now. But I want from you to not change the histori. In the past was not like that. In my neighborhood most people, there grandparents, are refugest from greece.
MrBg681 2 years ago
If you are making outlandish claims, please back them up with evidence.
skiros14 2 years ago
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MrBg681 2 years ago
The conception for greek Macedonia is born from greek megaliidea one grandomaniacs fantasi whitout real historic base. The greek said that ancient macedonian were CONECTET whit ancient greek and because of that they are greeks. Even that the gratest kings of antic greek are macedonians that not mean that the anciant macedonians are greek. In modern times the greec king Georg I(1863-1913) was from Danish origin. So is this mean that the danish are greecs.
MrBg681 2 years ago
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You fucking slav bastards take your propaganda and put it in your ass. Hellas rule the world!
celticdante 2 years ago
Bulgaria will never forget what the greecs and serbs and there enichari gurkomani and serbomani did in Macedonia. 1/3 part of Bulgarian population are refugees from Agean and Vardar Macedonia. In Bulgaria live 2 times more Macedonians from republic of Macedonia.
MrBg681 2 years ago
Yes it is a true Bulgaria is full whit refugees from Belomorska Macedonia. There grandchildrens in Bulgaria are between 500 000 and 1 000 000. The grandparents of our ex chairman of parlament Georgi Pirinski are from there and many ather popular Bulgarians. Б
MrBg681 2 years ago
ЕЈ МАКЕДОНЧЕ АЈ ВИДИ ДАЛИ МОЖЕШ ДА ОБЈАВИШ НЕШТО ОД ТОЈ ФИЛМОТ ЗА МАКЕДОНИЈА ШО БЕШЕ НАПРАВЕН ОД ТОЈ ИСЛАНЃАНЕЦОТ -ШО ГО ЗАБРАНИЈА ГРЦИТЕ
stokmkd 2 years ago
bravo brate
batoodaniiMk 2 years ago
Hello Gaygreeks !!!
you will pay for all this SOON !
pelister2007 2 years ago 2
Hey EUROPE
Are you fucken LOOOOKING
No need for longer comment.
Justice will reach you ,hahahhahahahaahaha
PaunBTMakedonski 2 years ago
Vardar+Aegan+Pirin=United Macedonia
Macedonia to Macedonians
+Со слога и верба Во Бог+
kumitavojvoda 2 years ago
a hole nation trying to be someone else!! history and ethnism is the bloud dear friends!! we are born greeks we dont just want to be!! the balcan history is attached one to another... but u... want something that u never had!! and the prouf is that all u guys never won a thing!! u are the garbage of the balcans!!! and u dont deserve history!!!
MrGiorgos1981 2 years ago
@MrGiorgos1981
ehehehhehe
THERE IS NO "GREEK" NATION OR LANGUAGE!
MODERN "GREECE" IS ARTIFICIAL GERMAN CREATION FROM 1821..
modern "greeks" are mixture of all balkan nationalities and wider....
MACEDONIA FOREVER!
StupidGAYreeks 2 years ago
hahahahahahahahahaaha.... the bulgarian speaks from vardarska!!!!!! atlist we have a language from ancient years!!!
history is greek invention!! u dont even learn at school!!! remimber stupid... ur children that grow up here become little americans!!! no home no location no history!!!
MrGiorgos1981 2 years ago
Gayreek scums - YOU WILL BURN IN THE HELL FOR THIS!
bobo87mk 2 years ago 2
2:11 HOLY FUCK
gtafan94 2 years ago
THE SKOPIANS ALLIES WITH NAZIS AT '40s
asteris78 2 years ago
Bravo za videoto ! nekade tamu, megu site tie deca na videoto , tamu bile i moite baba i dedo ! navistina zhalno e toa shto im go napravile Grcite ! no svetot ke vidi i ke chue ! pozdrav !
MrsELENASOLUN 2 years ago
Dodeka go gledav videoto nemozev a da ne pustam solzi... Nikogas nema da zaboravime kako stradale nasite brakja od Egejska Makedonija. -NIKOGAS!
PeceFromHeraklea 2 years ago
Excellent video brate !! The truth always wins in the end - it must hurt the Greeks too much for they are nowhere to comment !
Chovek1 2 years ago
edno od najdobrite videa sto sum gi videl, bravo
Obedinet 2 years ago 2
Makedoncite se podlozini na etnicki chistenja preku 2000 godini!Da ne zaboravi me i deka rimjanite koga ja izvrsija prvata podelba na Makedonija vo 168 nova era.donesle zakon so koj se nareduva unistuvanje na makedoncite i makedonskoto!Nie ucime i cel zivot ni kazuvaat za rimski iskopi,grcki i jas se prasuvam pa nie sme preku 8000 godini na taa krvava Makedonska zemja i nisto li ne izgradivme?!Da ne se lazeme Makedonija e zemjata sto ja sozdade Evropa i se ostanato!
TheMacedonianWorld 2 years ago 4
Ќе дојде денот кога ќе се наплатат овие тортури врз македонците.Ќе дојде денот кога ќе си ја земат казната сите оние кои го бришеа македонското.Не човек,не ние македонците...Господ ќе ги наплати страдањата и на најмалата пролеана солза.
МАКЕДОНЦИ не го заборавајте минатото!
0macedonianboy0 2 years ago 3
Very sad, but this is the truth, that it hurt vey deep in our hearts ;(
This terror will never be forget it !!! Let see the world what is about !!!
I hope one day God will punish those nazi countries and give back lost territories !!!
Macedonia For Macedonians, Aegean part is Macedonian !!! United Macedonia !!!
trajcekostov 2 years ago 3
Prekrasno stvarno,nemam zborovi za videovo...
forevermkd 2 years ago 4