@wangobangodango Yeah...let all those people who paid into go to the streets...let's live the Corporate Wet Dream...Let's get rid of Regulations...yeeeeeeeeehah!...Ron Paul and David Koch 2012!
Here's an idea. Let's promote a cut in the salaries of our politicians. Let's make them declare all the benefits and back handers they get from Corporate Lobbyist and tax them. Let's cut GWB's and Cheney's retirement benefits...after all they're the one who lied about Iraq in the first place... Let's cut the retirement benefits and health benefits of all politicians...they shouldn't have any more benefits than the common working person. Maybe that would change Bonehead's attitude.
@wangobangodango You Ron Paul FREAKS really crack me up. If we did things your way, there would be sick and dying elderly people all over the streets of every major city. One in Five Elderly have no other family and no one to help them with finances or taking care of themselves...Go ahead and follow Ron Paul around with your nose up his ass, he will never win anyway.
@wangobangodango I already have over 30,000 signatures on a petition and participated in visiting his office, but they refused to answer the door, the story was on the news. He must go, he is a Blight on our Society.
We should 'retire' Republicans permantly... (send them away, you did'nt think i meant croak them now did you? *although Gator hunters and Shark fishermen need bait :-p)
I really, really, really hate to agree with any Republican on this. But we are living longer, and what we pay into SS, we can actually out-live our benefits. Furthermore, many don't realize this, but people who are disabled start collecting a disability benefit called SSI much earlier in life. with various diseases and injuries that occur. Therefore, there is the possibility of SS going bankrupt at some point, or at least the overall benefit may eventually have to decrease to keep it going.
ummmm why don't people ever use the full title of SSI? Social Security INSURANCE. It was never meant to be used for retirement. It was in case you lived to way beyond your retirement savings. If it was indexed to life expectancy it would be set at around 83 years old till you started collecting. No one ever paid in to social security in an amount to collect it at 65.
@jwein8282000 Well when you come of age ( accourding to you 83 ) don't accept your social security check..send it back...but 99.9% of Americans don't think like you..and most elderly " DO " need their social security checks... MAKE THE RICH PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES....PROBLEM SOLVED !
This asshole sounds diappointed when he says we are all living a lot longer.. What a dickhead. The national debt can't be attributed to social security, it's funded by pay roll taxes not the US treasury.
Maybe you are not right. To say there is a gigantic surplus of SS finds but the government already spent it-that means it is not there. Maybe just me being picky
Wow this Clown say's us poor american's who have paid all our live's need's to suck it UP for his RICH NON WORKING ASS.This is not his money it is money the common folk had no choice to pay in they just took.And they have stole our money what a awsome country we live in if this is not resolved before 8-2-11 we should make a big stand on the RICH Republican's who are RAPING THIS COUNTRY!!!!!
man I want to get the fuck out of this country! I dont want to wait around till im 75 to retire and continue working 60 hours a week for the rest of my life. Costa Rica your going to have a lot more American ex pats coming your way.
Boehner you really got your nerve to cut Social Security when you guys got a private gym, swimming pool, workout equipment for $20 a month.. and the tax payers are stuck with paying for your private resort.... you have free parking.. free hair care... Why do the taxpayers pay you a Salary... SENATORS IN OFFICE ARE ONLY IN THIS FOR THEMSELVES.. YOU DO NOT LIVE THE LIFE THE REST OF US LIVE.. SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT it....
Social Security is only a part of my income. I am blessed to still have a post-retirement job. The banks do not pay savers any money, yet credit interest is 30% or more. I live the Dave Ramsey way, so no debts for me, Medicare rejects everything, yet I pay over 1k per year to them. My secondary pays the small bills Medicare rejects, such as eye or medical exams.
I will just die if I cannot supplement ss. Every thing is so expensive. I rent and I have to pay water and trash remover additional to
members of congress, both Senators and the House of Representatives, don't pay into Social Security but do have a special retirement plan that continues their active salary until death.
The email encourages pulling "...the Golden Fleece retirement out from under the Senators and Congressmen, and put them in Social Security with the rest of us."
WE ALL AMERICAN PEOPLE AGREE IN ONE THING. GOVERNMENT IS NOT DOING A GREAT JOB THESE DAYS.
IF THAT"S THE CASE...IF I AM GOING TO TIGHT MY BELL WITH MY FAMILY...THEN IS FAIR TO SAY THAT THE GOVERMENT AND CONGRESS SHOULKD BE THE FIST ONES TO BE PLACE INTO SACRIFICE. LET"S CUT THE SALARIES OF THESE PIGS MOTHER FUCKERS BY 50%.SO LIKE THAT WE ALL SUFFER.THEN WHEN THINGS GET BACK TO NORMAL...THEY CAB HAVE THEIR 50% BACK. THIS IS THE DEAL OF THE YEAR !!
@Gioxtream That won't help because they make millions in backroom deals and get paid off by corporations. Here is the solution. Vote for Ron Paul in 2012. End the Federal Reserve that devalues our money, end all these unnecessary wars, and start becoming self sufficient. The Founders didn't want us to be dependent on the Federal Government.
Hey OLD TURD, or Middle-aged Turkish fool, here's a news scoop. Why not demand that Obama have the most transparent administration of all time and release his original birth certificate, the one with the doctor and hospital on it, his passport records, school records, school loan records, adoption records of Barry Soetoro Obama who was enrolled in an Indonesian school?
Stand up 4 your RIGHTS Americans.+ The REPUBLICANS have been FOOLING YOU for the last 30 yrs. SOCIAL SECURITY*, (SS) , is NOT an entitlement! SS HAS A $2.6 TRILLION SURPLUS. SS CAN pay every claim at least until 2030.+ SS DOES NOT increase the federal budget by one cent!Tell the REPUBLICAN GANGSTERS & THEIR WALLSTREET BANDIT FRIENDS that you will FIGHT any PRIVATIZATION OF your SS pension. You will FIGHT ANY REDUCTION IN BENEFITS.~YOU will FIGHT any change in AGE REQUIREMENT FOR SS BENEFITS!
.. I can't believe I just heard a liberal progressive communist.. actually admit that the government IS NOT ENTITLED TO OUR MONEY!! YOU FREAKING IDIOT!!.. DID YOU KNOW THAT the money YOU MAKE.. and the TAXES THE GOVERNMENT COLLECTS is the SAME.. THEY ARE NOT ENTITLED TO OUR MONEY.. Period
I am at the age of retirement and this idiot want me and others to wait an other 5 years, what a croc of shit. he should go to Iran and try to work into the Government. They would cut his head out. LIAR,LIAR,LIAR
Young people entering the workforce right now will not have nothing for retirement because John Boehner and other Republicans like him have stolen their money and spent it on wars or otherwise found ways to funnel it to the already rich.
Well if the US is broke why not raise taxes on the rich? No ok how about ending the wars and thus cutting the military? If the tea baggers thought that the country was really in that bad of shape they would be open to these things, but their not because in the end its all about the rich getting more while EVERYONE else gets less.
all of you stop talking this BS ... it's very simple ... you paid into social security and you are ENTITLED to get iot back ... and NOTHING else ... but of course the nature of Americans is they let the rich get away with it, instead of fighting for it ... YOU know what, it's so sad that you don't have a backbone. GO fuck yourself, you just don't want to wakeup anymore ...
Part of the problem with social security is that the surplus that social security has had because of the baby boomers paying into it all had to be invested to stop inflation from eating up the $ put it. So social security invested in treasury bonds in keep the money safe, but now the treasury is unable to pay back their loans they took from the American people. With the surplus of cash put in by the baby boomers dwindling as they retire, social security will begin to lose money in 2017.
I worked construction as a pipefitter welder my whole life so yes my body is beat down unlike this piece of dung that has never had to do any type of work and got paid a huge amount in wages, purks, and benefits all paid by me what a scumbag. I would like to see him just start to work his retirement started the day he became a politician.
@zabaditafa It's almost impossible to undo American idiocy my friend....The people are too busy bible thumping and gun blazing to learn from history(Reagan and Bush). Hence, have become enslaved by a plutocratic system that takes from the working class and gives to the rich. That is the America they love in complete and utter massochism, they're idiots!
They were against medicare and social security and now Obamacare! When it's for helping people, Republicans hoist a red flag but concur to further intstilling plutocratic agendas. Tax money should be used to benefit common people, what is so difficult to understand? Stupid Americans.......Always embracing twisted patriotic views which defy all sense, humanity and logic.
It's got nothing to do with GOP. Obama is talking about it NOW! Republican or democrat; it doesn't matter. The american people are about to be fucked over bigg time!!
You hit the nail on the Big Time Head! They don't care about us. We are the pigs at the troffs to them they are entitled to all of our money and making War is big business. Who cares about the American public. 70 is the new 60's - after all we have ObamaCare that wonderful piece of Nazi work they are shoving down our throats. So they will decide who has worth to live and not live. If they can KILL BABIES (Partial Birth is MURDER) (Abortion is MURDER) Contact your Representatives!
Social Security is not solvent. New congressional estimates say the trust fund that supports Social Security disability will run out of money by 2017, leaving the program unable to pay full benefits, unless Congress acts. About two decades later, Social Security’s much larger retirement fund is projected to run dry as well. It's time to REFORM ALL GOVERNMENT ASSISTANT PROGRAMS NOW -- ELSE WE LOSE THEM! How about the first step to get millionaires off SS and Medicare?
Not only is it our money, but it ain't broke. The Social Security trust fund has a surplus of $2.5 trillion. Keep your friggin' hands off Social Security, John Boner!
Why dont we do this: Every cent that is paid into Social Security "Plus inflation and interest... you simply get back. But not a cent more. You can either take it in 1 lump sum to buy that house you've always wanted to leave to your kids. Or you can take a check for whatever amount you want, "Adjusted by interest and further inflation" until it is depleted years. Whats wrong with that system?
...BTW, here's a fun fact: Social Security is 100% funded through 2044 and 73% funded after that (or thereabouts). And before someone says the government can't keep printing money, actually, it can. It's called open market operations. The Fed only physically prints money when it absolutely needs to. Money is created and destroyed all the time...even though not a single bill is printed. The U.S. government isn't going to run out of money (at least not in any of your lifetimes).
Privatizing social security is the absolute fucking WORST idea ever. Why would ANYONE favor handing money from a pot you've spent your entire life paying into to the criminal assholes on Wall Street who bought and sold mortgage-backed securities all over the world and caused the worst financial disaster in human history by vaporizing TRILLIONS of dollars and leaving millions in poverty? You'd have to be the biggest dick on the planet to support that.
i wish there was no social security. i can take care of my money for retirement better than to government can. tyt is would obviously be just fine with a communist america.
@TheMrLiberty then every american would have been wiped out during the recession. it social security it is secure earning interest and guaranteed. repbulicans are millionaire and billionaires that dont plan on needing social security anyway.
@manucalrad everything you just said is inaccurate. I'm not a millionaire or billionaire and I'm republican, because I believe in individual responsibilites and I don't want anybody to take care of me. As much as I've paid into social security by the time I'm 65, I think I should be able to get back what I put in, and not having to worry about the next working class to pay for my social security. Experts project s.s. to be bankrupt by 2015
@TheMrLiberty then you dont want to privatize or get rid of ss, most republicans that do are millionaires and billionaires. how was i wrong. and if you knew anything about social security you would know that what you are paying now pays for the retirees, you will get paid by the next generation of workers, its always worked that way. and the only "expert" that says ss will be bankrupt in 4 years is fear mongering glenn beck
@TheMrLiberty Dude, do your research... Social Security is a ponzi scheme... its the same thing Bernie Madolf did. Yes social security will be running a deficit by 2015. You sir know nothing. Yes, privatizing ss makes the most sense, you should get back what you put in, you should'nt have to worry about if the next generation will generate enough money to fund it... Yes its always been that way... BUT IT DOES NOT WORK IN THE END!!! WAKE UP KID
Obama is white and black, as he himself said a 'mutt'. On average, Whites live longer than blacks. So Obama is fair to whites here because blacks don't live long enough to receive Social Security benefits as long as whites receive them. Blacks get other benefits --- so this is fair. Also the tax cuts of President Bush are for everyone; and the poor who are mostly black will get free health care. So I guess everyone can be happy because Obama pleases everyone!
Privatize social security... You get what you put in, an nobody in the government can dip their hands in your social security. Democrats want to raise taxes on you to pay for this. Any proposition either party choses is going to fail. Social security is a bust and a failed "scheme"
Ok I just listened to this again. And this guy is a fucking idiot. John Boehner just said that to preserve social security IT SHOULD BE MEANS-TESTED. That means if YOU ARE RICH you should GET LESS! This is what the left has been clamoring for YEARS!
So what the hell is this turkey complaining about? Means-tested MAKES THE DAMN PROGRAM MORE PROGRESSIVE!!
I don't agree with that solution by the way. But again, when football-neck Turkboy here says that "It's our money." No it is not. It is a tax.
You don't have aclue what Socialism is let me educate u a bit.
Soicialist share a view that caoitalism unfairly concentrates power & wealth within a small sehnent of siciety that control & derives it's wealth through a system of expliotation. Sounds like Wall Str.
Also they advocate amethod on compensation based on individual merit or the labor 1 contribute to society , 2 @ according 2 their abilties. Doesn't that fit your idea of those on entitlement programs . Bone Up righty
@keegan6868 Where's the incentive for hard work? Where's the incentive to make a difference in culture and make new products and create new markets? Capitalism works if gov would stop interfering with it. Look at the big picture buddy. Why are jobs being outsourced to other countries? Give me an example of a succeful country that is pure socialism
@TheMrLiberty Jobs are being outsourced because of capitalism. Outsourcing increases surplus value. Since the financialization of the economy in the 70s the gov has been interfering less.
@Urdoxa You're right, in the name of capitalism jobs are being outsourced, so they can make a profit. The gov still has its hand in every aspect of manufacturing, unions demanding equal pay for everyone, which is ridiculous. If I'm running a business and I have one good worker and one lazy, I'd like to fire the lazy and give the hard worker a raise. CAPITALISM. Unions make this dificult. You think regulations are better here than in Mexico or Taiwan or China? Get real.
there are a few progressive democrats, but despite that one independent, aka non partisan, senator that calls himself a socialist, and he is, that's about it.
@KangaKucha They can call them selves what they like... its their policies that say they are progressive. BUSH (progressive) 75% of politicians are progressive. Look at our track record. Look at gov spending over the past 100 years
number two, if bush was a progressive, why didn't he raise taxes for the rich, is for gay rights, etc? he made tax cuts for the rich, and wanted an amendment to ban gay marriage, totally the opposite of what progressives want.
three, if 75% of the politicians are progressive, why are we still on about government corruption, we have the lowest invested in green technology, etc? we should be more progressive now, but we are less.
@KangaKucha Progressive Republican. Yes he did make the rich richer, but is that not what Obama is doing with these bail outs? If he's so much for the little man, why is it these big corporations and banks received bail outs? The top 1% is sitting pretty. They can get around getting taxed. Bigger government is the progressive idea right? Is that not what Bush did? Bush had a cabinet member who was gay, look it up. He just didnt think they should be able to marry.
@TheMrLiberty I'm not defeating Obama, he sold us up the the river, so say what you like about him, I'm not gonna stand here and defend him. He forgot the N word, that being nationalize, and lets Rahm Emanuel run everything while he enjoys his fame.
yes, but he did it the other way around. so he had gay people work for him, heck everyone that's against illegal immigration likely has someone working for them that's either illegal or knows someone who is.
pigeatinginfidel, the wealthiest 1% are now paying their lowest tax rate in the history of the U.S. Do they create jobs in the U.S? NO! Do they increase benefits and wages for workers? NO! Do they hire more workers? Well then, what do they do with their money? They invest it in the shady financial instruments that caused the economic downfall of the U.S! They move their businesses overseas where they can get even cheaper labor! They deposit it in Swiss Banks!
@fifigirlM Wait a minute. In the history of the US? Aren't you aware that we didn't always have an income tax? And explain, lowest tax rate? In 1913 the richest - the top tax bracket - paid a 7% tax rate. Would you care to revise...your first few words? God only knows how many more errors of fact, logic, and reason I will find after the first sentence.
@fifigirlM Ok, no patience to wait for a response. Moving on to the next sentence where you assert, quite boldly, that they in no uncertain terms create NO jobs. And you know this...how? The whole silly list of questions and "answers" you give suffer the same thing. You apparently don't understand how the entire world is connected. You apparently don't understand how all human action is interconnected. Rich people don't create jobs by directly hiring people. Even if it goes into a "swiss bank"
@fifigirlM then that money becomes part of the available capital to create jobs. And what if they invest money in "shady" financial instruments? What are those instruments? When you "invest" money in something, it's not like you're putting money into a plexiglass box and burying it in the yard. The MONEY is paid to SOMEONE ELSE. THAT person might use it to create a job. Or somewhere along the whole chain. You are ignorant if you believe that wealth exists in a vacuum, cut off from the world.
@fifigirlM And just to prove the interconnectedness of everything, what if the wealthy person didn't deposit or invest the money. What if they just buried it in a bunker, never to use it for anything? The effect that would have would be the same as if that money had been removed from the overall supply. It would have a deflationary effect., causing everyone else's money to increase in value.
@fifigirlM And one final point, I think you suffer from the same blindness that the guy below did, which is failing to understand what wealth *is* in the first place. You and he seem to have this very juvenile, "medieval feast" understanding of what wealth is. To you, wealth is food spread out on a table in a medieval banquet hall. Someone grabs a chicken leg, and now the table is poorer by one chicken leg, and no one else can eat that. If the king comes in, he takes half the table...
@fifigirlM ...there is that much less for everyone else to eat. In this view, for every dollar that a rich person has, that means there is someone out there who is one dollar poorer. The problem with this simplistic thinking is that it isn't true. Wealth is not a medieval feast. There is no analogy that works within the childish framework with which you perceive the world. If you want to understand you need to abandon the childish way of seeing the world.
@fifigirlM If wealth grows and the money supply that represents it does not, you get deflation. If wealth grows slower than the money supply you get inflation. The reason is that wealth is not fixed. Like voltage in electricity, wealth is simply a relative measure of demand. Relative. Not fixed. A wealthy person today can become poor if the wealth they have is no longer demanded relative to other things.
If you want to understand, you need to abandon the static mindset and think dynamically.
@fifigirlM So, wealth is not fixed for all time. Right? Next, where does wealth *come from* in the first place? Is it just *there*, and some people just steal it and keep others from getting it? Is that how they get wealthy? No. Understand this: there is no wealth in the world naturally. Humans create it by acting on nature to create things and ideas. If you act on nature to create, say, a chair, then that represents wealth. If you value having that chair more than not having it, then you posses
@fifigirlM Contained in that chair. But how is that wealth measured? It can only be measured by introducing someone else who values that chair. And that value can only be denominated either in terms of some other good - say oranges - or in terms of a common unit - some kind of money.
So if one person has more money than another, that means they have produced more, or produced more value, than another, and exchanged it with someone else for the money. The whole process is completely peaceful.
I'd like to see what this idiot Turk thinks about this. Let's LOWER the retirement age, say, to 45. If raising it is so obviously a bad move, then LOWERING it must be good, right?
Well let's not waste any time pussyfooting around with lowball numbers. We can create heaven on earth. Fuck it, let's lower the retirement age to 18! And DOUBLE the benefits!
This Turk guy is an idiot. Just because you pay into Social Security does not mean you are owed that money. The Supreme Court, the Congress, and everyone, including Roosevelt himself, said that Social Security is nothing more than a tax which is used to pay current. You have no right to any of the money you paid into it. If you did, then you'd have a legal claim against the government because you get back less than you pay in.
There is no trust fund. There is no lock box. There never has been.
@pigeatinginfidel I've been reding your comments, and you are perhaps the dumbest person I have seen in a very long time, You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.
@KangaKucha Ha ha ha! Seriously? What are you, 8 years old?
We were "the best" at one time because the rest of the world was a bombed out disaster recovering from years of war. And how are we "shit" now? If by any measure we are "shit" now it is because of the actions of government, not rich people. Blaming rich people is as stupid as blaming the Jews for the hyperinflation of the Weimar Republic.
@KangaKucha Ok, I will go away. And you will put on your nice little rich-hater uniform with all the shiny buttons and shiny little boots, and you go march off like a good little fascist soldier full of hate.
Supreme court ruled long ago, back in the 1930s, that social security is not a trust fund that you pay into and have a claim to. It is nothing more than a tax. You pay and it's gone.
It's clear this bonehead Bohener is trying to mislead people about the economy. Social Security has nothing to do with the debt and that's a fact. Had Congress not raided Social Security, the surplus that once existed would be there.
I'm sick of these fat cats sucking the life from the poor and the elderly. 85 percent of the wealth in this country is held by 20 percent of the people. With the bottom 20 percent of us scrapping for 15 percent of the national wealth, what else do they want?
Social security has nothing to do with the debt?? There is nearly 70 trillion dollars of unfunded liability in social security. Liability = debt. Unfunded means there is nothing backing it up.
the GOP will destory this country if it keeps privatising everything, we need UHC, no more death penatly, 18 dunking age, not cuting back on SS and retriement. they have already set this country back 50 years, we need to pressure the dems, or vote in people that can take it 50 years forwamd and beyound!!!
@KangaKucha Well can I really say to this: "the GOP will destory this country if it keeps privatising everything, we need UHC, no more death penatly, 18 dunking age, not cuting back on SS and retriement."
Besides your atrocious grasp of the English language, everything you list there reads like some Santa Claus list of goodies a little child wants, not understanding that it has to come from somewhere. The people who *are* destroying this country are the ones who believe there is a limitless
@KangaKucha What does that mean, wealth? How did these people come to own this wealth? And is this wealth a fixed amount, never changing throughout time, just becoming more concentrated? How is this wealth measured? Stock market values that fluctuate from day to day?
The silliness of your concern is that you believe that if one of those evil 1% own wealth, they got it by taking it from you. You see a fat man and a thin man side by side and can only conclude that the fat man took all the food.
@KangaKucha If this evil 1% got their wealth by depriving the rest of humanity of theirs, then we should, all the rest of us, be poorer than ever before. But in reality, wealth is not a fixed quantity. If everyone is allowed to accumulate wealth without fear of punishment from greedy envious people like you, then that total amount of wealth will continue to grow. When you have government policies motivated by greed for other people's wealth you see that total amount of wealth shrink.
@Kanga If you allow people to be free to earn whatever they can, some people will become wealthy, but because wealth is created through human activity, they aren't stealing others' wealth but adding to the total. Sure, they now have 50%, because they helped enlarge the total amount. Their accumulation didn't take away from the wealth of the rest of us. In fact, we got wealthier too. If you want some people to stop becoming wealthy, then you must insist they stop doing things to add to the total.
@KangaKucha Why must it trickle down to you? Did you create it? Is it yours? No. Again, wealth is created through action. You act to create something that others want, then you have wealth. When someone else acts to creates wealth, it doesn't impoverish you, even if you never benefit from it. But you don't have any kind of right or claim to the wealth that other people generate.
As for inflation, I don't think you know what that means. Prices rise, but so do wages.
@KangaKucha@KangaKucha Ok. You have no response so you resort to insults. Not very good ones, at that. Why don't you just think about it. Don't worry about me or my possible shortcomings. Give the idea some thought that maybe it doesn't cause you any harm if someone else is richer than you. Look at why it *does* bother you. Why does it bother you that someone else is richer? Are you jealous? Is it envy? What animates your hatred? Is it reason or mere animal impulse that drives you?
@KangaKucha Ok, you need to explain the precise mechanism in operation here. How are rich people doing this? How exactly does wealth cause things to go to the crapper?
Well, George Carlin said it first in his stand up, a few years before he died. They want it all back. And they are going to get it. And no one does a fucking thing about it.
It is time for a Revolution in this country. to Oust the current Dictators (GOP and Demorats) who only pander to the corporate gestopo who tell people what to wear, think, and feel. If citizens do not stand up now, this country will be ruined in 10 years.
Who the hell is telling you what to think and do? Are you stupid? And how, please tell me, is changing social security to a more sustainable model going to give the "corporate gestapo" more power over you? And just who the hell is this "gestapo"?
After attempting to post and discuss the information shared by this video, on JOHN BOEHNER'S Youtube Channel, I was immediately blocked, comments removed, and now I can't post anything on his Channel! That's odd, I have never been blocked like this before, anyone have any idea what's going on???????
80 mill Boomers is major political force hey boomers vote for me . I will wage war on countries that has been tax heavens for the rich and use stolen money to pay you
Politicians are so out of touch with reality. Yes on the average we are living longer, but the bodies of the physical labor pool are wearing out & breaking down at the age they have always been. Wall Street & bankers habitually destroyed private retirement savings prior the The Social Security act and have done so afterward. The SS safety net will still be needed. Yes it has problems that need to repaired, but not at the expense of the future elderly.
I propose we reduce the absurd salaries and huge benefits that our Congressmen/women receive, and continue to receive even after they leave office. These politicians are completely removed from reality. Oh and about the bankers--we taxpayers want our money back. Who told Congress they could give away billions of our dollars to these fat cats?
@Cissy2cute AMEN: The Congressmen in washington line thier pockets with lobbyist money so laws may be written to benefit the corporate banking system.
This shit in washington and the cartel banking system has to be changed.
The congressmen and women feather thier own nest and dont give a dam about a poor person.
That man is a fuckin' drunk. Why is anybody listening to him? "Go ahead, America...uhhh...work yourselves to death, so I can....uhhh...buy more booze."
Sacrifice? What sort of "sacrifice" has Lloyd Blankfien, Pete Petersen, or any of these other Wall Street criminals sacrificed? THEY are the ones who caused this mess and not only are they forgiven, they are even rewarded with OUR money!
Thanks for that. I got a good laugh. The sad part is I'm on your side, but you're incapable of understanding why. Correction, I'm on the side of any human being who just wants to create a home in peace, supported through the profit of their labors, and protected by the rule of law.
If by "my side", you mean those of us who pledge our lives, fortunes, and sacred honor to protect themselves and their neighbors from a thieving horde? You're right.
That's actually true. i watched a documentary (IOUSA) that explanis that all the money put into social security and medicare is spent to lower thei US debt
Unfortunately once all the people born in the 40's/50's retire, they'll be a massive hole causing tax increases to pay them
Working until you die, more commonly known as a "pine box retirement" because the only casket you'll be able to afford will be a packing crate, is the solution the Republicans put forward as a means of generating the necessary revenue to sustain the unending wars which are all based on lies.
Long as the average Joe has his Casa de Big-Screen HDTV, beer & Monday Night Football, he has no problem with having all his wealth stolen & becoming a wage-debt slave who will work until he dies.
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Smirk090887 4 days ago
70 hell no
bigboy6969100 3 weeks ago
@wangobangodango Yeah...let all those people who paid into go to the streets...let's live the Corporate Wet Dream...Let's get rid of Regulations...yeeeeeeeeehah!...Ron Paul and David Koch 2012!
seamoremonster 2 months ago
Here's an idea. Let's promote a cut in the salaries of our politicians. Let's make them declare all the benefits and back handers they get from Corporate Lobbyist and tax them. Let's cut GWB's and Cheney's retirement benefits...after all they're the one who lied about Iraq in the first place... Let's cut the retirement benefits and health benefits of all politicians...they shouldn't have any more benefits than the common working person. Maybe that would change Bonehead's attitude.
seamoremonster 2 months ago 2
Congratulations Young Turks! I saw your show with Al Gore, good work.
cromagnan 2 months ago
@wangobangodango You Ron Paul FREAKS really crack me up. If we did things your way, there would be sick and dying elderly people all over the streets of every major city. One in Five Elderly have no other family and no one to help them with finances or taking care of themselves...Go ahead and follow Ron Paul around with your nose up his ass, he will never win anyway.
cromagnan 2 months ago
@wangobangodango I already have over 30,000 signatures on a petition and participated in visiting his office, but they refused to answer the door, the story was on the news. He must go, he is a Blight on our Society.
cromagnan 2 months ago
@wangobangodango I hate the fact that I share the same plnat with a fuck like YOU!
townkevin59 2 months ago
We should 'retire' Republicans permantly... (send them away, you did'nt think i meant croak them now did you? *although Gator hunters and Shark fishermen need bait :-p)
26yearstoorion 2 months ago
I really, really, really hate to agree with any Republican on this. But we are living longer, and what we pay into SS, we can actually out-live our benefits. Furthermore, many don't realize this, but people who are disabled start collecting a disability benefit called SSI much earlier in life. with various diseases and injuries that occur. Therefore, there is the possibility of SS going bankrupt at some point, or at least the overall benefit may eventually have to decrease to keep it going.
CSILogic 3 months ago
ummmm why don't people ever use the full title of SSI? Social Security INSURANCE. It was never meant to be used for retirement. It was in case you lived to way beyond your retirement savings. If it was indexed to life expectancy it would be set at around 83 years old till you started collecting. No one ever paid in to social security in an amount to collect it at 65.
jwein8282000 3 months ago
@jwein8282000 Well when you come of age ( accourding to you 83 ) don't accept your social security check..send it back...but 99.9% of Americans don't think like you..and most elderly " DO " need their social security checks... MAKE THE RICH PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES....PROBLEM SOLVED !
MrGarcia555 1 month ago
I hope Jon Boehner gets skin cancer.
nowwithmorekick 4 months ago
This asshole sounds diappointed when he says we are all living a lot longer.. What a dickhead. The national debt can't be attributed to social security, it's funded by pay roll taxes not the US treasury.
CComb501 5 months ago
John Boehner is not fit for office...Needs to step down.
cromagnan 6 months ago
Maybe you are not right. To say there is a gigantic surplus of SS finds but the government already spent it-that means it is not there. Maybe just me being picky
daveme7 6 months ago in playlist Government
Revolution time now??? or shall we wait til they take houses to`....oh wait they are all ready doing that.
Partyffs 6 months ago
OBAMA IS....AND WAS...A...HUGE ...MISTAKE.
dragonslayerED30 7 months ago
Wow this Clown say's us poor american's who have paid all our live's need's to suck it UP for his RICH NON WORKING ASS.This is not his money it is money the common folk had no choice to pay in they just took.And they have stole our money what a awsome country we live in if this is not resolved before 8-2-11 we should make a big stand on the RICH Republican's who are RAPING THIS COUNTRY!!!!!
keeneglass 7 months ago
We're broke, because the rich will not pay their fare share. I am 66 and I work full time and have a part time job
qmhp1 8 months ago
i'm telling black folks that's like dangling a knife in my face on a string about to break and they won't back off after that ? you see what i mean ?
billslusser 8 months ago
man I want to get the fuck out of this country! I dont want to wait around till im 75 to retire and continue working 60 hours a week for the rest of my life. Costa Rica your going to have a lot more American ex pats coming your way.
boston312 8 months ago
@boston312 you're not going ANYWHERE so STFU
BriannaStar1234 6 months ago
Boehner you really got your nerve to cut Social Security when you guys got a private gym, swimming pool, workout equipment for $20 a month.. and the tax payers are stuck with paying for your private resort.... you have free parking.. free hair care... Why do the taxpayers pay you a Salary... SENATORS IN OFFICE ARE ONLY IN THIS FOR THEMSELVES.. YOU DO NOT LIVE THE LIFE THE REST OF US LIVE.. SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT it....
MrBoy219 8 months ago
cut social security yet we gave pakastan 20 billion in aid so far
MrBoy219 9 months ago
Social Security is only a part of my income. I am blessed to still have a post-retirement job. The banks do not pay savers any money, yet credit interest is 30% or more. I live the Dave Ramsey way, so no debts for me, Medicare rejects everything, yet I pay over 1k per year to them. My secondary pays the small bills Medicare rejects, such as eye or medical exams.
I will just die if I cannot supplement ss. Every thing is so expensive. I rent and I have to pay water and trash remover additional to
acajudi100 10 months ago
members of congress, both Senators and the House of Representatives, don't pay into Social Security but do have a special retirement plan that continues their active salary until death.
The email encourages pulling "...the Golden Fleece retirement out from under the Senators and Congressmen, and put them in Social Security with the rest of us."
MrBoy219 10 months ago
The republicans are a bunch of greedy bastards who wish to screw the wrorking man!
padude64 10 months ago
I have the solution.
WE ALL AMERICAN PEOPLE AGREE IN ONE THING. GOVERNMENT IS NOT DOING A GREAT JOB THESE DAYS.
IF THAT"S THE CASE...IF I AM GOING TO TIGHT MY BELL WITH MY FAMILY...THEN IS FAIR TO SAY THAT THE GOVERMENT AND CONGRESS SHOULKD BE THE FIST ONES TO BE PLACE INTO SACRIFICE. LET"S CUT THE SALARIES OF THESE PIGS MOTHER FUCKERS BY 50%.SO LIKE THAT WE ALL SUFFER.THEN WHEN THINGS GET BACK TO NORMAL...THEY CAB HAVE THEIR 50% BACK. THIS IS THE DEAL OF THE YEAR !!
Gioxtream 10 months ago
@Gioxtream That won't help because they make millions in backroom deals and get paid off by corporations. Here is the solution. Vote for Ron Paul in 2012. End the Federal Reserve that devalues our money, end all these unnecessary wars, and start becoming self sufficient. The Founders didn't want us to be dependent on the Federal Government.
withtheoldbreed 8 months ago
any politician knows that screwing with social security is suicide to their political carreer. all this talk is just posturing. keep my checks coming
BeingNobody1956 10 months ago
any politician knows that screwing with social security is suicide to thei political carreer. all this talk is just posturing. keep my checks coming
BeingNobody1956 10 months ago
Hey OLD TURD, or Middle-aged Turkish fool, here's a news scoop. Why not demand that Obama have the most transparent administration of all time and release his original birth certificate, the one with the doctor and hospital on it, his passport records, school records, school loan records, adoption records of Barry Soetoro Obama who was enrolled in an Indonesian school?
dellvostro784 11 months ago
Stand up 4 your RIGHTS Americans.+ The REPUBLICANS have been FOOLING YOU for the last 30 yrs. SOCIAL SECURITY*, (SS) , is NOT an entitlement! SS HAS A $2.6 TRILLION SURPLUS. SS CAN pay every claim at least until 2030.+ SS DOES NOT increase the federal budget by one cent!Tell the REPUBLICAN GANGSTERS & THEIR WALLSTREET BANDIT FRIENDS that you will FIGHT any PRIVATIZATION OF your SS pension. You will FIGHT ANY REDUCTION IN BENEFITS.~YOU will FIGHT any change in AGE REQUIREMENT FOR SS BENEFITS!
poindexterwitkowsky 1 year ago 6
Is there any truth that to a rumor I heard that Boehner carries an onion in his pocket?
loulou2lou 1 year ago
Mr.Boehner The government wouldn't be broke if it didn't piss money away like a drunken sailor.
Mr. Boehner You are the closest person that I have seen in my 63 years that reminds me of Adolph Hitler.
loulou2lou 1 year ago
.. I can't believe I just heard a liberal progressive communist.. actually admit that the government IS NOT ENTITLED TO OUR MONEY!! YOU FREAKING IDIOT!!.. DID YOU KNOW THAT the money YOU MAKE.. and the TAXES THE GOVERNMENT COLLECTS is the SAME.. THEY ARE NOT ENTITLED TO OUR MONEY.. Period
NeuLuma 1 year ago
I am at the age of retirement and this idiot want me and others to wait an other 5 years, what a croc of shit. he should go to Iran and try to work into the Government. They would cut his head out. LIAR,LIAR,LIAR
DocRJBonneau 1 year ago
America is Broke
ruggimi 1 year ago
Young people entering the workforce right now will not have nothing for retirement because John Boehner and other Republicans like him have stolen their money and spent it on wars or otherwise found ways to funnel it to the already rich.
Kritiker313 1 year ago 2
Well if the US is broke why not raise taxes on the rich? No ok how about ending the wars and thus cutting the military? If the tea baggers thought that the country was really in that bad of shape they would be open to these things, but their not because in the end its all about the rich getting more while EVERYONE else gets less.
MJH505060 1 year ago 2
"We're broke". And then he wants to give more tax cuts to the rich so that we become even more broke? What the fuck is wrong with these people?!
derekxnl 1 year ago
all of you stop talking this BS ... it's very simple ... you paid into social security and you are ENTITLED to get iot back ... and NOTHING else ... but of course the nature of Americans is they let the rich get away with it, instead of fighting for it ... YOU know what, it's so sad that you don't have a backbone. GO fuck yourself, you just don't want to wakeup anymore ...
NobbyBear08 1 year ago
Part of the problem with social security is that the surplus that social security has had because of the baby boomers paying into it all had to be invested to stop inflation from eating up the $ put it. So social security invested in treasury bonds in keep the money safe, but now the treasury is unable to pay back their loans they took from the American people. With the surplus of cash put in by the baby boomers dwindling as they retire, social security will begin to lose money in 2017.
JTS11d6 1 year ago
I worked construction as a pipefitter welder my whole life so yes my body is beat down unlike this piece of dung that has never had to do any type of work and got paid a huge amount in wages, purks, and benefits all paid by me what a scumbag. I would like to see him just start to work his retirement started the day he became a politician.
s46d45m17 1 year ago
he doesn't need the money. thats why he wants raise the retirement age to 69
IT'S MY MONEY AND I NEED IT NOW John Boehner: is a crook.... Social Security is not broke... the govenment borrowed with bogus I O U' S
MrBoy219 1 year ago
@zabaditafa It's almost impossible to undo American idiocy my friend....The people are too busy bible thumping and gun blazing to learn from history(Reagan and Bush). Hence, have become enslaved by a plutocratic system that takes from the working class and gives to the rich. That is the America they love in complete and utter massochism, they're idiots!
Cordero787 1 year ago
They were against medicare and social security and now Obamacare! When it's for helping people, Republicans hoist a red flag but concur to further intstilling plutocratic agendas. Tax money should be used to benefit common people, what is so difficult to understand? Stupid Americans.......Always embracing twisted patriotic views which defy all sense, humanity and logic.
Cordero787 1 year ago
It's got nothing to do with GOP. Obama is talking about it NOW! Republican or democrat; it doesn't matter. The american people are about to be fucked over bigg time!!
tommyo8 1 year ago 7
@tommyo8
You hit the nail on the Big Time Head! They don't care about us. We are the pigs at the troffs to them they are entitled to all of our money and making War is big business. Who cares about the American public. 70 is the new 60's - after all we have ObamaCare that wonderful piece of Nazi work they are shoving down our throats. So they will decide who has worth to live and not live. If they can KILL BABIES (Partial Birth is MURDER) (Abortion is MURDER) Contact your Representatives!
rwedoomed 1 year ago
@tommyo8 About to be! The American people were fucked along time ago, people are just too damned blind and slow to catch on.
DeusImperium 1 year ago
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Social Security is not solvent. New congressional estimates say the trust fund that supports Social Security disability will run out of money by 2017, leaving the program unable to pay full benefits, unless Congress acts. About two decades later, Social Security’s much larger retirement fund is projected to run dry as well. It's time to REFORM ALL GOVERNMENT ASSISTANT PROGRAMS NOW -- ELSE WE LOSE THEM! How about the first step to get millionaires off SS and Medicare?
vechorik 6 months ago in playlist GOP SS
It's happening people. You'll have to be 69 to retire in america. We will work till we DIE!!
tommyo8 1 year ago
Not only is it our money, but it ain't broke. The Social Security trust fund has a surplus of $2.5 trillion. Keep your friggin' hands off Social Security, John Boner!
unionguy36 1 year ago
Why dont we do this: Every cent that is paid into Social Security "Plus inflation and interest... you simply get back. But not a cent more. You can either take it in 1 lump sum to buy that house you've always wanted to leave to your kids. Or you can take a check for whatever amount you want, "Adjusted by interest and further inflation" until it is depleted years. Whats wrong with that system?
sagequan 1 year ago
republicans major contributors this year are foreign companies. why? because republicans outsource jobs. vote to disclose contributors.
manucalrad 1 year ago
...BTW, here's a fun fact: Social Security is 100% funded through 2044 and 73% funded after that (or thereabouts). And before someone says the government can't keep printing money, actually, it can. It's called open market operations. The Fed only physically prints money when it absolutely needs to. Money is created and destroyed all the time...even though not a single bill is printed. The U.S. government isn't going to run out of money (at least not in any of your lifetimes).
buukyak 1 year ago 3
@buukyak yeah they can keep expanding the money supply, as long as you dont mind screwing people out of the value in the money theyve worked for.
richmocha 9 months ago
Privatizing social security is the absolute fucking WORST idea ever. Why would ANYONE favor handing money from a pot you've spent your entire life paying into to the criminal assholes on Wall Street who bought and sold mortgage-backed securities all over the world and caused the worst financial disaster in human history by vaporizing TRILLIONS of dollars and leaving millions in poverty? You'd have to be the biggest dick on the planet to support that.
buukyak 1 year ago 2
Are we? Where's the evidence?
CupisHomines 1 year ago
i rated down before the video even started.
i wish there was no social security. i can take care of my money for retirement better than to government can. tyt is would obviously be just fine with a communist america.
eyeball334 1 year ago
the government wants to raise the retirement age hoping that ppl would die be4 they can get it so the gop and take the money away
paintballwiz1983 1 year ago
@paintballwiz1983 How about privatized social security, what you earn throughout your life time goes in to your own retirement fund?
TheMrLiberty 1 year ago
@TheMrLiberty then every american would have been wiped out during the recession. it social security it is secure earning interest and guaranteed. repbulicans are millionaire and billionaires that dont plan on needing social security anyway.
manucalrad 1 year ago
@manucalrad everything you just said is inaccurate. I'm not a millionaire or billionaire and I'm republican, because I believe in individual responsibilites and I don't want anybody to take care of me. As much as I've paid into social security by the time I'm 65, I think I should be able to get back what I put in, and not having to worry about the next working class to pay for my social security. Experts project s.s. to be bankrupt by 2015
TheMrLiberty 1 year ago
@TheMrLiberty then you dont want to privatize or get rid of ss, most republicans that do are millionaires and billionaires. how was i wrong. and if you knew anything about social security you would know that what you are paying now pays for the retirees, you will get paid by the next generation of workers, its always worked that way. and the only "expert" that says ss will be bankrupt in 4 years is fear mongering glenn beck
manucalrad 1 year ago
@TheMrLiberty Dude, do your research... Social Security is a ponzi scheme... its the same thing Bernie Madolf did. Yes social security will be running a deficit by 2015. You sir know nothing. Yes, privatizing ss makes the most sense, you should get back what you put in, you should'nt have to worry about if the next generation will generate enough money to fund it... Yes its always been that way... BUT IT DOES NOT WORK IN THE END!!! WAKE UP KID
TheMrLiberty 1 year ago
Obama is white and black, as he himself said a 'mutt'. On average, Whites live longer than blacks. So Obama is fair to whites here because blacks don't live long enough to receive Social Security benefits as long as whites receive them. Blacks get other benefits --- so this is fair. Also the tax cuts of President Bush are for everyone; and the poor who are mostly black will get free health care. So I guess everyone can be happy because Obama pleases everyone!
Calsummersishere 1 year ago
Privatize social security... You get what you put in, an nobody in the government can dip their hands in your social security. Democrats want to raise taxes on you to pay for this. Any proposition either party choses is going to fail. Social security is a bust and a failed "scheme"
TheMrLiberty 1 year ago
Ok I just listened to this again. And this guy is a fucking idiot. John Boehner just said that to preserve social security IT SHOULD BE MEANS-TESTED. That means if YOU ARE RICH you should GET LESS! This is what the left has been clamoring for YEARS!
So what the hell is this turkey complaining about? Means-tested MAKES THE DAMN PROGRAM MORE PROGRESSIVE!!
I don't agree with that solution by the way. But again, when football-neck Turkboy here says that "It's our money." No it is not. It is a tax.
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@pigeatinginfidel progressive taxsation is the way to go!!! progressives are a damn side smarter and better on refrom than your tory ass!!!
KangaKucha 1 year ago
@KangaKucha socialism much?
TheMrLiberty 1 year ago
@TheMrLiberty social democract
KangaKucha 1 year ago
@KangaKucha All democrats are socialist
TheMrLiberty 1 year ago
@TheMrLiberty
You don't have aclue what Socialism is let me educate u a bit.
Soicialist share a view that caoitalism unfairly concentrates power & wealth within a small sehnent of siciety that control & derives it's wealth through a system of expliotation. Sounds like Wall Str.
Also they advocate amethod on compensation based on individual merit or the labor 1 contribute to society , 2 @ according 2 their abilties. Doesn't that fit your idea of those on entitlement programs . Bone Up righty
keegan6868 1 year ago
@keegan6868 Where's the incentive for hard work? Where's the incentive to make a difference in culture and make new products and create new markets? Capitalism works if gov would stop interfering with it. Look at the big picture buddy. Why are jobs being outsourced to other countries? Give me an example of a succeful country that is pure socialism
TheMrLiberty 1 year ago
@TheMrLiberty Jobs are being outsourced because of capitalism. Outsourcing increases surplus value. Since the financialization of the economy in the 70s the gov has been interfering less.
Urdoxa 1 year ago
@Urdoxa You're right, in the name of capitalism jobs are being outsourced, so they can make a profit. The gov still has its hand in every aspect of manufacturing, unions demanding equal pay for everyone, which is ridiculous. If I'm running a business and I have one good worker and one lazy, I'd like to fire the lazy and give the hard worker a raise. CAPITALISM. Unions make this dificult. You think regulations are better here than in Mexico or Taiwan or China? Get real.
TheMrLiberty 1 year ago
@TheMrLiberty and alot of republicans too
TheMrLiberty 1 year ago
@TheMrLiberty UM, NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
there are a few progressive democrats, but despite that one independent, aka non partisan, senator that calls himself a socialist, and he is, that's about it.
KangaKucha 1 year ago
@KangaKucha They can call them selves what they like... its their policies that say they are progressive. BUSH (progressive) 75% of politicians are progressive. Look at our track record. Look at gov spending over the past 100 years
TheMrLiberty 1 year ago
@TheMrLiberty stop watching Glenn beck number one.
number two, if bush was a progressive, why didn't he raise taxes for the rich, is for gay rights, etc? he made tax cuts for the rich, and wanted an amendment to ban gay marriage, totally the opposite of what progressives want.
three, if 75% of the politicians are progressive, why are we still on about government corruption, we have the lowest invested in green technology, etc? we should be more progressive now, but we are less.
KangaKucha 1 year ago
@KangaKucha the only way W Bush was a socialist is he was a socialist for the rich, that's what neo conservationism is, socialism for the rich.
KangaKucha 1 year ago
@KangaKucha Progressive Republican. Yes he did make the rich richer, but is that not what Obama is doing with these bail outs? If he's so much for the little man, why is it these big corporations and banks received bail outs? The top 1% is sitting pretty. They can get around getting taxed. Bigger government is the progressive idea right? Is that not what Bush did? Bush had a cabinet member who was gay, look it up. He just didnt think they should be able to marry.
TheMrLiberty 1 year ago
@TheMrLiberty I'm not defeating Obama, he sold us up the the river, so say what you like about him, I'm not gonna stand here and defend him. He forgot the N word, that being nationalize, and lets Rahm Emanuel run everything while he enjoys his fame.
yes, but he did it the other way around. so he had gay people work for him, heck everyone that's against illegal immigration likely has someone working for them that's either illegal or knows someone who is.
KangaKucha 1 year ago
@TheMrLiberty btw, do you mean Ken Mehlman, who had, after years of denying it, just came out of the closet?
KangaKucha 1 year ago
@TheMrLiberty
Seriously, isn't it a prerequisite to be a sociopath before you actually pull the lever for any republican out there?
southrules 1 year ago
@southrules Ignorance strikes again!
TheMrLiberty 1 year ago
pigeatinginfidel, the wealthiest 1% are now paying their lowest tax rate in the history of the U.S. Do they create jobs in the U.S? NO! Do they increase benefits and wages for workers? NO! Do they hire more workers? Well then, what do they do with their money? They invest it in the shady financial instruments that caused the economic downfall of the U.S! They move their businesses overseas where they can get even cheaper labor! They deposit it in Swiss Banks!
fifigirlM 1 year ago
@fifigirlM Wait a minute. In the history of the US? Aren't you aware that we didn't always have an income tax? And explain, lowest tax rate? In 1913 the richest - the top tax bracket - paid a 7% tax rate. Would you care to revise...your first few words? God only knows how many more errors of fact, logic, and reason I will find after the first sentence.
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@fifigirlM Ok, no patience to wait for a response. Moving on to the next sentence where you assert, quite boldly, that they in no uncertain terms create NO jobs. And you know this...how? The whole silly list of questions and "answers" you give suffer the same thing. You apparently don't understand how the entire world is connected. You apparently don't understand how all human action is interconnected. Rich people don't create jobs by directly hiring people. Even if it goes into a "swiss bank"
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@fifigirlM then that money becomes part of the available capital to create jobs. And what if they invest money in "shady" financial instruments? What are those instruments? When you "invest" money in something, it's not like you're putting money into a plexiglass box and burying it in the yard. The MONEY is paid to SOMEONE ELSE. THAT person might use it to create a job. Or somewhere along the whole chain. You are ignorant if you believe that wealth exists in a vacuum, cut off from the world.
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@fifigirlM And just to prove the interconnectedness of everything, what if the wealthy person didn't deposit or invest the money. What if they just buried it in a bunker, never to use it for anything? The effect that would have would be the same as if that money had been removed from the overall supply. It would have a deflationary effect., causing everyone else's money to increase in value.
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@fifigirlM And one final point, I think you suffer from the same blindness that the guy below did, which is failing to understand what wealth *is* in the first place. You and he seem to have this very juvenile, "medieval feast" understanding of what wealth is. To you, wealth is food spread out on a table in a medieval banquet hall. Someone grabs a chicken leg, and now the table is poorer by one chicken leg, and no one else can eat that. If the king comes in, he takes half the table...
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@fifigirlM ...there is that much less for everyone else to eat. In this view, for every dollar that a rich person has, that means there is someone out there who is one dollar poorer. The problem with this simplistic thinking is that it isn't true. Wealth is not a medieval feast. There is no analogy that works within the childish framework with which you perceive the world. If you want to understand you need to abandon the childish way of seeing the world.
Wealth is not fixed; it is elastic.
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@fifigirlM If wealth grows and the money supply that represents it does not, you get deflation. If wealth grows slower than the money supply you get inflation. The reason is that wealth is not fixed. Like voltage in electricity, wealth is simply a relative measure of demand. Relative. Not fixed. A wealthy person today can become poor if the wealth they have is no longer demanded relative to other things.
If you want to understand, you need to abandon the static mindset and think dynamically.
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@fifigirlM So, wealth is not fixed for all time. Right? Next, where does wealth *come from* in the first place? Is it just *there*, and some people just steal it and keep others from getting it? Is that how they get wealthy? No. Understand this: there is no wealth in the world naturally. Humans create it by acting on nature to create things and ideas. If you act on nature to create, say, a chair, then that represents wealth. If you value having that chair more than not having it, then you posses
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@fifigirlM Contained in that chair. But how is that wealth measured? It can only be measured by introducing someone else who values that chair. And that value can only be denominated either in terms of some other good - say oranges - or in terms of a common unit - some kind of money.
So if one person has more money than another, that means they have produced more, or produced more value, than another, and exchanged it with someone else for the money. The whole process is completely peaceful.
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
so disconnected from the average person
Rutagher 1 year ago
I'd like to see what this idiot Turk thinks about this. Let's LOWER the retirement age, say, to 45. If raising it is so obviously a bad move, then LOWERING it must be good, right?
Well let's not waste any time pussyfooting around with lowball numbers. We can create heaven on earth. Fuck it, let's lower the retirement age to 18! And DOUBLE the benefits!
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
This Turk guy is an idiot. Just because you pay into Social Security does not mean you are owed that money. The Supreme Court, the Congress, and everyone, including Roosevelt himself, said that Social Security is nothing more than a tax which is used to pay current. You have no right to any of the money you paid into it. If you did, then you'd have a legal claim against the government because you get back less than you pay in.
There is no trust fund. There is no lock box. There never has been.
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@pigeatinginfidel I've been reding your comments, and you are perhaps the dumbest person I have seen in a very long time, You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.
Fry1989HD 1 year ago
@Fry1989HD Really? Then enlighten me, or stop wasting my time.
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@pigeatinginfidel fuck you mate! dont talk to my friend like that, just got eat shit and die
and watch TYT, look at thge numbers!!! when were we the best, why are we so shit now??? LOOK!!!
KangaKucha 1 year ago
@KangaKucha Ha ha ha! Seriously? What are you, 8 years old?
We were "the best" at one time because the rest of the world was a bombed out disaster recovering from years of war. And how are we "shit" now? If by any measure we are "shit" now it is because of the actions of government, not rich people. Blaming rich people is as stupid as blaming the Jews for the hyperinflation of the Weimar Republic.
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
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@pigeatinginfidel are you one of the rich?
KangaKucha 1 year ago
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@KangaKucha And if I am, so what?
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@pigeatinginfidel are you rich?
KangaKucha 1 year ago
@KangaKucha Why would I spend my time watching this TYT idiot? He's stupid and looks like a dumb football player.
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@pigeatinginfidel you should, get an education!
KangaKucha 1 year ago
@KangaKucha football player he is a turk!! he is heath as a horse!
KangaKucha 1 year ago
@KangaKucha You must mean the kind of education that teaches that it is ok to random commas in your sentences.
And, one, day, I will be, smart, like KangaKucha and, know how to, hate all the, right people like a good little drone.
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
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@pigeatinginfidel piss off
KangaKucha 1 year ago
@KangaKucha Ok, I will go away. And you will put on your nice little rich-hater uniform with all the shiny buttons and shiny little boots, and you go march off like a good little fascist soldier full of hate.
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@pigeatinginfidel socialist you mean...
KangaKucha 1 year ago
@KangaKucha Same thing. Both stomp around in shiny uniforms and hate people.
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@pigeatinginfidel you watch glenn beck?
KangaKucha 1 year ago
@KangaKucha Don't get TV where I am. I just like reducing things to their irreducible cores. And the irreducible core of both is the same
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@KangaKucha Especially when outcomes are considered. Both result in the same ugliness and atrocity.
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@pigeatinginfidel then in that case, you can see that democracy is not much better from mob rule.
KangaKucha 1 year ago
@pigeatinginfidel i;m fucking drunk, leave me alone!
KangaKucha 1 year ago
Social Security money is NOT yours to spend! It is money I paid into a TRUST for MY retirement!
It is MY MONEY not YOURS! Get your God Damn dirty hand out of my pocket.
FredPhelpsSr 1 year ago
@FredPhelpsSr
Supreme court ruled long ago, back in the 1930s, that social security is not a trust fund that you pay into and have a claim to. It is nothing more than a tax. You pay and it's gone.
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
It's clear this bonehead Bohener is trying to mislead people about the economy. Social Security has nothing to do with the debt and that's a fact. Had Congress not raided Social Security, the surplus that once existed would be there.
I'm sick of these fat cats sucking the life from the poor and the elderly. 85 percent of the wealth in this country is held by 20 percent of the people. With the bottom 20 percent of us scrapping for 15 percent of the national wealth, what else do they want?
playacentral1 1 year ago
@playacentral1
Social security has nothing to do with the debt?? There is nearly 70 trillion dollars of unfunded liability in social security. Liability = debt. Unfunded means there is nothing backing it up.
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
Republicans are slave masters. The lot of them.
thudmother 1 year ago
i say we kick his ass steal his money sell his property put him on food stamps
elmajfudd 1 year ago
the GOP will destory this country if it keeps privatising everything, we need UHC, no more death penatly, 18 dunking age, not cuting back on SS and retriement. they have already set this country back 50 years, we need to pressure the dems, or vote in people that can take it 50 years forwamd and beyound!!!
KangaKucha 1 year ago
@KangaKucha No your right. Lets have the government order us around like in the glorious USSR.
minnesotastategop 1 year ago
@minnesotastategop yeah, there is one of the GOP cunts playing sacasim with me, go live in Canada, and I bet you will love it more than minnesota!
KangaKucha 1 year ago
@KangaKucha
You sir are a moron.
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@pigeatinginfidel ylu sure are a dead set fuck wit!
KangaKucha 1 year ago
@KangaKucha Well can I really say to this: "the GOP will destory this country if it keeps privatising everything, we need UHC, no more death penatly, 18 dunking age, not cuting back on SS and retriement."
Besides your atrocious grasp of the English language, everything you list there reads like some Santa Claus list of goodies a little child wants, not understanding that it has to come from somewhere. The people who *are* destroying this country are the ones who believe there is a limitless
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@KangaKucha amount of other people's money they can steal.
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@pigeatinginfidel so you would prefer to let the 1 precent of this country's rich own over 50 precent of the countries weath?
and those things i listed almost every westren country has except the USA
KangaKucha 1 year ago
@KangaKucha What does that mean, wealth? How did these people come to own this wealth? And is this wealth a fixed amount, never changing throughout time, just becoming more concentrated? How is this wealth measured? Stock market values that fluctuate from day to day?
The silliness of your concern is that you believe that if one of those evil 1% own wealth, they got it by taking it from you. You see a fat man and a thin man side by side and can only conclude that the fat man took all the food.
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@pigeatinginfidel because thats what happened!
KangaKucha 1 year ago
@KangaKucha If this evil 1% got their wealth by depriving the rest of humanity of theirs, then we should, all the rest of us, be poorer than ever before. But in reality, wealth is not a fixed quantity. If everyone is allowed to accumulate wealth without fear of punishment from greedy envious people like you, then that total amount of wealth will continue to grow. When you have government policies motivated by greed for other people's wealth you see that total amount of wealth shrink.
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@pigeatinginfidel and we are, the middle class is dying in this crisis.
we need them to pay more tax so that weath can be better spend on pubic works!!!
KangaKucha 1 year ago
@Kanga If you allow people to be free to earn whatever they can, some people will become wealthy, but because wealth is created through human activity, they aren't stealing others' wealth but adding to the total. Sure, they now have 50%, because they helped enlarge the total amount. Their accumulation didn't take away from the wealth of the rest of us. In fact, we got wealthier too. If you want some people to stop becoming wealthy, then you must insist they stop doing things to add to the total.
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@pigeatinginfidel that weath isn't tricky down to us, while they made mre, they chrushed us and we made less, its called inflation!
KangaKucha 1 year ago
@KangaKucha Why must it trickle down to you? Did you create it? Is it yours? No. Again, wealth is created through action. You act to create something that others want, then you have wealth. When someone else acts to creates wealth, it doesn't impoverish you, even if you never benefit from it. But you don't have any kind of right or claim to the wealth that other people generate.
As for inflation, I don't think you know what that means. Prices rise, but so do wages.
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@pigeatinginfidel your so pitiful and blind.
KangaKucha 1 year ago
@KangaKucha @KangaKucha Ok. You have no response so you resort to insults. Not very good ones, at that. Why don't you just think about it. Don't worry about me or my possible shortcomings. Give the idea some thought that maybe it doesn't cause you any harm if someone else is richer than you. Look at why it *does* bother you. Why does it bother you that someone else is richer? Are you jealous? Is it envy? What animates your hatred? Is it reason or mere animal impulse that drives you?
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
@pigeatinginfidel cuz it taking this country to the crapper?
KangaKucha 1 year ago
@KangaKucha Ok, you need to explain the precise mechanism in operation here. How are rich people doing this? How exactly does wealth cause things to go to the crapper?
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
GREAT CONCEPT: Republican John Boehner wants to raise retirement age to 70, so we can have money to pay for more wars.
pigeonreporter 1 year ago
Well, George Carlin said it first in his stand up, a few years before he died. They want it all back. And they are going to get it. And no one does a fucking thing about it.
It is time for a Revolution in this country. to Oust the current Dictators (GOP and Demorats) who only pander to the corporate gestopo who tell people what to wear, think, and feel. If citizens do not stand up now, this country will be ruined in 10 years.
shellback963 1 year ago
@shellback963
Who the hell is telling you what to think and do? Are you stupid? And how, please tell me, is changing social security to a more sustainable model going to give the "corporate gestapo" more power over you? And just who the hell is this "gestapo"?
pigeatinginfidel 1 year ago
After attempting to post and discuss the information shared by this video, on JOHN BOEHNER'S Youtube Channel, I was immediately blocked, comments removed, and now I can't post anything on his Channel! That's odd, I have never been blocked like this before, anyone have any idea what's going on???????
Slayerfan84 1 year ago
How about taking all of the governments PERKS to pay for social security. I want my money back and my dead husband's.
kirwdx01 1 year ago
Hand his ass to the lions!!!!
dcbama3209 1 year ago
80 mill Boomers is major political force hey boomers vote for me . I will wage war on countries that has been tax heavens for the rich and use stolen money to pay you
Hot4Chess 1 year ago
Politicians are so out of touch with reality. Yes on the average we are living longer, but the bodies of the physical labor pool are wearing out & breaking down at the age they have always been. Wall Street & bankers habitually destroyed private retirement savings prior the The Social Security act and have done so afterward. The SS safety net will still be needed. Yes it has problems that need to repaired, but not at the expense of the future elderly.
westkan 1 year ago
You can't just TAKE it? Somebody needs to tell all the chicas dropping anchor babies all over the freakin south.
mphandel 1 year ago
Fuck John Boehner I truly hope Ohioans vote this scumbag piece of shit out of office!
Slayerfan84 1 year ago
The Russians have planted Russian Spies in the GOP! If we are broke, why do we spend so much in the Military!
logbase711 1 year ago
I propose we reduce the absurd salaries and huge benefits that our Congressmen/women receive, and continue to receive even after they leave office. These politicians are completely removed from reality. Oh and about the bankers--we taxpayers want our money back. Who told Congress they could give away billions of our dollars to these fat cats?
It is no longer government for and by the people.
Cissy2cute 1 year ago 14
@Cissy2cute AMEN: The Congressmen in washington line thier pockets with lobbyist money so laws may be written to benefit the corporate banking system.
This shit in washington and the cartel banking system has to be changed.
The congressmen and women feather thier own nest and dont give a dam about a poor person.
tlfettled 1 year ago
That man is a fuckin' drunk. Why is anybody listening to him? "Go ahead, America...uhhh...work yourselves to death, so I can....uhhh...buy more booze."
dakoneko 1 year ago
Sacrifice? What sort of "sacrifice" has Lloyd Blankfien, Pete Petersen, or any of these other Wall Street criminals sacrificed? THEY are the ones who caused this mess and not only are they forgiven, they are even rewarded with OUR money!
mhirtes12 1 year ago
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OmadFeyd 1 year ago
@OmadFeyd "my puppet masters".
Thanks for that. I got a good laugh. The sad part is I'm on your side, but you're incapable of understanding why. Correction, I'm on the side of any human being who just wants to create a home in peace, supported through the profit of their labors, and protected by the rule of law.
If by "my side", you mean those of us who pledge our lives, fortunes, and sacred honor to protect themselves and their neighbors from a thieving horde? You're right.
FreedomsReigning 1 year ago
That's actually true. i watched a documentary (IOUSA) that explanis that all the money put into social security and medicare is spent to lower thei US debt
Unfortunately once all the people born in the 40's/50's retire, they'll be a massive hole causing tax increases to pay them
TheFunkyDomination 1 year ago 2
Working until you die, more commonly known as a "pine box retirement" because the only casket you'll be able to afford will be a packing crate, is the solution the Republicans put forward as a means of generating the necessary revenue to sustain the unending wars which are all based on lies.
Long as the average Joe has his Casa de Big-Screen HDTV, beer & Monday Night Football, he has no problem with having all his wealth stolen & becoming a wage-debt slave who will work until he dies.
ZedAlfa273 1 year ago 10