nigeria has a total gun ban and ammunition ban. nigerian government can do whatever it wants and break into a house whenever they want. they have been the most successful gun ban today because they have the world's lowest gun possession rate now of 1 per 100 people (based on 2007 small arms survey). Still a country that has out of control violence.
i disagree with you on the big cities !! we do need guns here in chicago more then any where in the country !! do you realy think that Rudy Giuliani lower the crims by the gun control ?? the police use to stop ppl in the street and search them for no reason !!
exactly..I keep on seeing these comments about the 2nd amendment then soon after .."Oh except for Chicago or NewYork..who cares", everyone should have guns. Its all or nothing in the case of the 2nd amendment.
Don't fool yourself if you were in a war with the U.S government your guns wouldnt help you. The people who own this country won't ever let you threaten the government. They control the economy and they can kill you without lifting a finger.
The original purpose as to have a conglomeration of states that could stand up, militarily, to the fed govt.. This is no longer possible -since 1865. The argument now is about self-protection - with little hand guns - talk about a bait and switch. If you people really cared about the constitution you wouldn't be so quick to condemn the people's militias, the Confederate battleflag, or the South in general - can you say brainwashed?
So what about the hundreds of thousands of cases where a person uses a firearm for self-defense? You are essentially saying you don't care in that case.
The Second Amendment was created to have an armed populace (albeit at the time that meant wealthy white land/slave owners) that could confront a tyrannical government with force if necessary.
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." -- Thomas Jefferson
Since 1776 "We The People" has changed to be inclusive of everyone and not just the wealthy white land/slave owners a.k.a. "The Ruling Class". Because of this inclusiveness "The Ruling Class" has seen the need to marginalize the power of "mob rule" and insuring their own power by putting limits on the 2nd Amendment.
Did you know that during the Katrina debacle the Bush Administration sent Blackwater, The National Guard and the police to confiscate guns from lawful gun owners?
"NRA: The Untold Story of Gun Confiscation After Katrina"
watch?v=-taU9d26wT4
Since 9/11 the ruling class has an excuse to put the US on prison lockdown and fearful post 9/11 Americans are in full compliance.
ACTUALLY.....if you view the crime stats in Britain and Aus you will see less GUN crime.....and 10 times more VIOLENT crime in Britain and 5 times more in Aus...view US FBI UCR report and British Home Office report....for 06/07
people need to stop using the term "liberal", its a bullshit term. The true political scale has two axes, fiscal and social. the term liberal is stupid and propagandized. its the red cape for the god/guns/gays crowd. its a scare tactic that leads people to support their side despite of the quality of the argument. We need to come together somehow and end the trench warfare. Only way to do that is Ron Paul or someone representing New Deal Economics.
Note to liberals: The more power you give to the govt. the less freedom we will have. The closer to comunisim we get.
I will never give up my guns. If you think I will, you can go to hell! I will use my gun to protect my self from crime. I have that constitutional right.
And you have the right to use your guns in defense of your rights against anyone who would try to take those rights away wether it is criminals, police or the federal government.
modern "liberals" arent liberal at all. They are government worshipping collectivist scum, just like republicans. They despise personal freedom and only issue 'privledges' to those who are apart of certain groups.
I own myself and therefore no man has the right to claim I may not defend my property from the aggressions of another, otherwise he is claiming himself as soveriegn over my self... he is claiming that HE is the rightful owner of my body.
"I feel that we need to make sure criminals don't get them, but that's it! If you aren't mentally ill, then you can just go buy a gun! That's it! Period! "
Let me ask you this: Do you have proof that those people are going to commit a crime? If a convict come out of jail......where is your proof that he is going to commit a crime?
It can't be as simple as mentally ill.....you have to have proof that they will commit a crime when they get there hands on a gun.
I suppose he thinks the mentally handicapped are not allowed to defend themselves. Anyone whose taken a prozac will be mentally ill some day. The door is opened and it is always only a matter of time till a politician will step through it.
The 2nd ammendment doesn't say "unless......." it just saids "shall not be infringed"......let's say that 90% of criminals are repeat offenders, and I choose not to be.....
You are thinking in terms of groups and not terms of individuals. Those 90% or whatever statistic you can show me are seperate from me. It doesn't matter how many of them are repeat offenders.....that doesn't mean I'm going to be one.
heres the 8th amendment "Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"
now heres the 1rst sentence of the judicial review of theconstitution "The interpretation of the laws is the proper and peculiar province of the courts"
basicly it means that the supreme court can deme it constitutional
most likely you can get prohibition from buying from x amount of years
Wow, I didn't realize people were posting on my vid. Honestly, if a criminal serves his FULL sentence (i don't mean probation) He has served and paid back his debt to society. Therefore a ex-con should have the right to bear arms. even if I don't like it, all individuals should have the same rights.
im not preventing law abiding citizens from getting guns its so criminals and mental people cant get guns. to get the permit i proposed would require you to take a 2 hour long class on gun safety and proper techniques so the person getting the gun knows exactly what to do with it
im all for guns but people need to know how to care for them and so psycos dont get them
The second amendment is your fucking permit...like he said. Requiring a class and a permit turns the right into a privilage. You cannot regulate and license and require classes for a right, otherwise it becomes a privilige like driving a car.
HAHA! Yes Yes Yes! I totally agree. The second amendment is your permit. It gives you the right. And it never says that you have to be in the military to own one or any of the other crap our government is giving us. I feel that we need to make sure criminals don't get them, but that's it! If you aren't mentally ill, then you can just go buy a gun! That's it! Period!
Uh, no you don't. I don't have to prove to you that I'm not going to go out and murder somebody as soon as I get one nor do you have the statistics to prove that I'm an incompetent gun owner.
so are you saying every mental person who has a violent history should get a gun? are you saying that i when i get a gun im not taught how to properly use it?
it wouldn't limit anyone, unless they are unstable.
i think that there should be a quick backround check, i know criminals will get them any way but what about foreigners, mentally disturbed people and violent criminals we cant be giving guns to people and also a safety course on how to properly handle a gun just a quick half hour to an hour thing but nothing to prevent law abiding citizens from getting guns
A background check for a right when you are an american citizen? do you have background checks before you can have freedom of speech? freedom of speech has gotten many people killed to. Requiring anything before you can have a right is unconstitutional.
the question is should a gun a weapon that kill and seriously wound people be put into the hands of a dangerous and unstable man, should have the right to carry something that can kill a person easily yes or no?
Punish the criminal, not regulate a right. Like i said..A right that is regulated, permitted, licensed...is no longer a right. Do you support background checks on knives, bats, swords, chainsaws, metal pipes?
i dont think mentally disturbed people should be able to carry guns they shouldnt since who knows what they'll do with a gun. im not against people carrying handguns around the streets for self defence but our right to use firearms should be for the citizens who have no violent history nor are mental patiencei see where your coming from but the problem is that in some places there are virtually no way for guns to be regulated in any way, we dont know whos buying guns and any hullagen can buy one
Keep the 2nd amendment, but allow the states to determine individual laws that are not unconstitutional. Obviously no automatics and bazooka's, which Ron Paul actually has said. Guns planes is an option but I don't know if its the only option to hijacking. This is something that should be discussed. I believe we will figure out and resolve complications to gun control in the near future.
The 2nd Amendment grants people the right to bear arms......not the right to bear just guns. The 2nd ammendment protects the bearing of ALL weapons. What if the a criminal illegally got one of those autos or bazookas, or maybe the gov't will be using those weapons...aren't you sir....going to want to have those weapons to use against them also?
The second amendment does not grant the right to bear arms, The second amendment forbids the government from infringing on our already inalienable right to keep and bear arms.
if 100 million americans want RON PAUL we will get him... the powers that be will not have a choice.. this is why our founding fathers gave us the second amendment.. if the government gets out of hand and becomes a tyrant, the Amercan citizen can and should take up arms against it to get back to a constitutional government.. why else do you think that the government wants gun control.
About the idea of cities with strict gun control having lower gun crime rates take a look at Washington DC. You can't have a firearm there at all for self defense use. The crime rate their is through the roof.
Allowing cities to come up with their own gun control laws is a bad idea. Just imagine driving across a state with your handgun and every 5 miles or so the laws changed. One says you have to have your gun in the trunk, one says you have to take it apart and store it in the glove compartment, another says it has to be in plain view. What a mess. What if they did that with traffic signs. Imaging the confusion.
thats a good point...though I still think local gun control is better then federal gun control if there has to be any at all. But all in all there should be none or very little...like background checks etc. And you shouldn't get in trouble if a firearm is within your property (which includes your vehicle)...God...why couldn't politicians follow the constitution?
That is the case though, counties are allowed in some instance to infer their own guns laws, the universal federal and state laws apply, however some counties and cities enact their own legislation. This is especially prevalent with concealed carry laws, which do vary by county and state.
With handguns and rifles? Really? I guess its better than nothing but won't do too much against an APC; just ask David Koresh. Drop the illusion that the people have any power in this country, they don't. We put up a good fight in 1861-65 but lost - now we are seeing the result. A country who's only purpose is profit - the takeover of true America ideals by the Northern Puritan philosophy.
The right to bear arms was included in the Bill of Rights in order to protect Citizens against the tyranny of Government. Strip Citizens of their right to defend themselves and you'll have Despotism in short order. Gun control works. Ask Hitler, Stalin or Mao.
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cooey84 9 months ago
nigeria has a total gun ban and ammunition ban. nigerian government can do whatever it wants and break into a house whenever they want. they have been the most successful gun ban today because they have the world's lowest gun possession rate now of 1 per 100 people (based on 2007 small arms survey). Still a country that has out of control violence.
texasgringooo 1 year ago
also after britsh gun control in 1997 the gun crimes was up about 40% so how did it work thats not to say the knife crimes !!
sargon08 2 years ago
i disagree with you on the big cities !! we do need guns here in chicago more then any where in the country !! do you realy think that Rudy Giuliani lower the crims by the gun control ?? the police use to stop ppl in the street and search them for no reason !!
sargon08 2 years ago
Without firearms,fascism under this new administration will parallell nazi germany.
It's topping their "to do" list.I don't wish to shoot anyone,but I will if they make an attempt to confiscate.And I'm not alone.
Not by a long shot.
FuckObamasMama 2 years ago
Im with BEST*****CHANNEL
TakeBackVermont 3 years ago
You had me up until 4:50 when you said that big cities need gun control. You can't pick and choose liberties. Either you're free or you're not.
BestFuckingChannel 3 years ago 9
exactly..I keep on seeing these comments about the 2nd amendment then soon after .."Oh except for Chicago or NewYork..who cares", everyone should have guns. Its all or nothing in the case of the 2nd amendment.
thetubeinsideyou 2 years ago
Don't fool yourself if you were in a war with the U.S government your guns wouldnt help you. The people who own this country won't ever let you threaten the government. They control the economy and they can kill you without lifting a finger.
chocomeerkat 3 years ago
I'm libertarian. I'm all about the constitution :D.
Except I'm Canadian.... meaning the government can take away any liberties I have.
Russoft 3 years ago
Unfeasonable! i love it...
tx55drexray 3 years ago
i say if everybody in the world carried a gun (besides the little kids) it would be alot safer!
24pointbuck 3 years ago
The original purpose as to have a conglomeration of states that could stand up, militarily, to the fed govt.. This is no longer possible -since 1865. The argument now is about self-protection - with little hand guns - talk about a bait and switch. If you people really cared about the constitution you wouldn't be so quick to condemn the people's militias, the Confederate battleflag, or the South in general - can you say brainwashed?
jdcremin 3 years ago
I will never understand how you Americans want guns for everyone in such a state with so many mentally disabled people.
Atheist2007 3 years ago
And I'll never understand why you non-americans feel it's any of your business.
yankeelifer 3 years ago
Whenever a victim is murdered by an insane American I wish that crime could have been averted.
Atheist2007 3 years ago
It could have, if the victim was armed
yankeelifer 3 years ago
How do you wanna know that the victim hadn't robbed a bank or that he hadn't already run amok?
Can you be sure that another guy hadn't stolen his gun to murder innocent people?
Atheist2007 3 years ago
So what about the hundreds of thousands of cases where a person uses a firearm for self-defense? You are essentially saying you don't care in that case.
jubeigh13 2 years ago
"You can't have both". Good point, repeal the second amendment and ban guns!
Ahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa, GOTCHA! Fuck 'F'un control!
T850CSM101a1676 3 years ago
Did you forget that Nixon thought "Guns are an abomination" and Reagan supported the Brady Bill back in 1991? I thought so.
Google 'Don't Blame Liberals for Gun Control'
localhost008 4 years ago
The Second Amendment was created to have an armed populace (albeit at the time that meant wealthy white land/slave owners) that could confront a tyrannical government with force if necessary.
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." -- Thomas Jefferson
localhost008 4 years ago
Since 1776 "We The People" has changed to be inclusive of everyone and not just the wealthy white land/slave owners a.k.a. "The Ruling Class". Because of this inclusiveness "The Ruling Class" has seen the need to marginalize the power of "mob rule" and insuring their own power by putting limits on the 2nd Amendment.
localhost008 4 years ago
Did you know that during the Katrina debacle the Bush Administration sent Blackwater, The National Guard and the police to confiscate guns from lawful gun owners?
"NRA: The Untold Story of Gun Confiscation After Katrina"
watch?v=-taU9d26wT4
Since 9/11 the ruling class has an excuse to put the US on prison lockdown and fearful post 9/11 Americans are in full compliance.
localhost008 4 years ago
....and both were crazy
MostlyPoliticalStuff 3 years ago
Both what? You have to be more descriptive. We can't read your mind.
localhost008 3 years ago
ACTUALLY.....if you view the crime stats in Britain and Aus you will see less GUN crime.....and 10 times more VIOLENT crime in Britain and 5 times more in Aus...view US FBI UCR report and British Home Office report....for 06/07
kncook50 4 years ago
people need to stop using the term "liberal", its a bullshit term. The true political scale has two axes, fiscal and social. the term liberal is stupid and propagandized. its the red cape for the god/guns/gays crowd. its a scare tactic that leads people to support their side despite of the quality of the argument. We need to come together somehow and end the trench warfare. Only way to do that is Ron Paul or someone representing New Deal Economics.
gosciu555 4 years ago
the US got in trouble due to New Deal economics. Check it out.
utubehayter 4 years ago
got in trouble due to wall street running the show
gosciu555 4 years ago
Right on! Gun Control is just people Control.
Coyote1911 4 years ago 4
Note to liberals: The more power you give to the govt. the less freedom we will have. The closer to comunisim we get.
I will never give up my guns. If you think I will, you can go to hell! I will use my gun to protect my self from crime. I have that constitutional right.
davida3606 4 years ago 4
And you have the right to use your guns in defense of your rights against anyone who would try to take those rights away wether it is criminals, police or the federal government.
shadowsofnineveh 3 years ago
modern "liberals" arent liberal at all. They are government worshipping collectivist scum, just like republicans. They despise personal freedom and only issue 'privledges' to those who are apart of certain groups.
I own myself and therefore no man has the right to claim I may not defend my property from the aggressions of another, otherwise he is claiming himself as soveriegn over my self... he is claiming that HE is the rightful owner of my body.
thorsmitersaw 4 years ago 3
"I feel that we need to make sure criminals don't get them, but that's it! If you aren't mentally ill, then you can just go buy a gun! That's it! Period! "
Let me ask you this: Do you have proof that those people are going to commit a crime? If a convict come out of jail......where is your proof that he is going to commit a crime?
It can't be as simple as mentally ill.....you have to have proof that they will commit a crime when they get there hands on a gun.
DethMachineEngage 4 years ago
I suppose he thinks the mentally handicapped are not allowed to defend themselves. Anyone whose taken a prozac will be mentally ill some day. The door is opened and it is always only a matter of time till a politician will step through it.
thorsmitersaw 4 years ago
if they went to jail for a gun related crime thats proof enough since most are repeat offenders
hornedbeast91 4 years ago
The 2nd ammendment doesn't say "unless......." it just saids "shall not be infringed"......let's say that 90% of criminals are repeat offenders, and I choose not to be.....
You are thinking in terms of groups and not terms of individuals. Those 90% or whatever statistic you can show me are seperate from me. It doesn't matter how many of them are repeat offenders.....that doesn't mean I'm going to be one.
DethMachineEngage 4 years ago
well then prove your self, like when you get out of jail you cant buy one for X amount of time
hornedbeast91 4 years ago
Well, at first we were talking about just mental people, now were talking about mental people with violent histories.
The only way you could possibly bar them from a gun is if you included it in their sentences. Even that I'm not sure it's constitutional.
DethMachineEngage 4 years ago
im just saying right now
heres the 8th amendment "Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"
now heres the 1rst sentence of the judicial review of theconstitution "The interpretation of the laws is the proper and peculiar province of the courts"
basicly it means that the supreme court can deme it constitutional
most likely you can get prohibition from buying from x amount of years
hornedbeast91 4 years ago
Wow, I didn't realize people were posting on my vid. Honestly, if a criminal serves his FULL sentence (i don't mean probation) He has served and paid back his debt to society. Therefore a ex-con should have the right to bear arms. even if I don't like it, all individuals should have the same rights.
frionelhero 4 years ago
im just saying right now that a vast majority are repeat offenders
hornedbeast91 4 years ago
"im all for guns but people need to know how to care for them and so psycos dont get them"
Four words: INNOCENT TILL PROVEN GUILTY
I don't have to prove to you that I won't accidently kill someone with a gun.....you have to assume I'm innocent till proven guilty.
DethMachineEngage 4 years ago
the only gun control we should really have is permits b/c so the person can now about their guns
hornedbeast91 4 years ago
The 2nd ammendment is your permit........
DethMachineEngage 4 years ago 3
im not preventing law abiding citizens from getting guns its so criminals and mental people cant get guns. to get the permit i proposed would require you to take a 2 hour long class on gun safety and proper techniques so the person getting the gun knows exactly what to do with it
im all for guns but people need to know how to care for them and so psycos dont get them
hornedbeast91 4 years ago
The second amendment is your fucking permit...like he said. Requiring a class and a permit turns the right into a privilage. You cannot regulate and license and require classes for a right, otherwise it becomes a privilige like driving a car.
shadowsofnineveh 3 years ago
HAHA! Yes Yes Yes! I totally agree. The second amendment is your permit. It gives you the right. And it never says that you have to be in the military to own one or any of the other crap our government is giving us. I feel that we need to make sure criminals don't get them, but that's it! If you aren't mentally ill, then you can just go buy a gun! That's it! Period!
KaneFenton4Freedom 4 years ago
and we need to know that you know how to use one too
hornedbeast91 4 years ago
Uh, no you don't. I don't have to prove to you that I'm not going to go out and murder somebody as soon as I get one nor do you have the statistics to prove that I'm an incompetent gun owner.
DethMachineEngage 4 years ago
so are you saying every mental person who has a violent history should get a gun? are you saying that i when i get a gun im not taught how to properly use it?
it wouldn't limit anyone, unless they are unstable.
hornedbeast91 4 years ago
What part of "shall not be infringed do you not understand? I right that is regulated is no longer a right.
shadowsofnineveh 3 years ago
i think that there should be a quick backround check, i know criminals will get them any way but what about foreigners, mentally disturbed people and violent criminals we cant be giving guns to people and also a safety course on how to properly handle a gun just a quick half hour to an hour thing but nothing to prevent law abiding citizens from getting guns
hornedbeast91 3 years ago
A background check for a right when you are an american citizen? do you have background checks before you can have freedom of speech? freedom of speech has gotten many people killed to. Requiring anything before you can have a right is unconstitutional.
shadowsofnineveh 3 years ago 3
the question is should a gun a weapon that kill and seriously wound people be put into the hands of a dangerous and unstable man, should have the right to carry something that can kill a person easily yes or no?
hornedbeast91 3 years ago
Punish the criminal, not regulate a right. Like i said..A right that is regulated, permitted, licensed...is no longer a right. Do you support background checks on knives, bats, swords, chainsaws, metal pipes?
shadowsofnineveh 3 years ago
i dont think mentally disturbed people should be able to carry guns they shouldnt since who knows what they'll do with a gun. im not against people carrying handguns around the streets for self defence but our right to use firearms should be for the citizens who have no violent history nor are mental patiencei see where your coming from but the problem is that in some places there are virtually no way for guns to be regulated in any way, we dont know whos buying guns and any hullagen can buy one
hornedbeast91 3 years ago
there's actually a correlation between gun control and crime rate: the more gun control, the higher the crime rate. interesting.
utbeaker 4 years ago 6
agreed 100%. For some reason liberals seem to miss this fact. Not to mention we have our 2nd ammendment that allows us the RIGHT to bear arms.
frionelhero 4 years ago
Keep the 2nd amendment, but allow the states to determine individual laws that are not unconstitutional. Obviously no automatics and bazooka's, which Ron Paul actually has said. Guns planes is an option but I don't know if its the only option to hijacking. This is something that should be discussed. I believe we will figure out and resolve complications to gun control in the near future.
Organjic 4 years ago
The 2nd Amendment grants people the right to bear arms......not the right to bear just guns. The 2nd ammendment protects the bearing of ALL weapons. What if the a criminal illegally got one of those autos or bazookas, or maybe the gov't will be using those weapons...aren't you sir....going to want to have those weapons to use against them also?
DethMachineEngage 4 years ago
personally no but politically yes. At the very least, leave it to the states.
frionelhero 4 years ago
The second amendment does not grant the right to bear arms, The second amendment forbids the government from infringing on our already inalienable right to keep and bear arms.
shadowsofnineveh 3 years ago
Mass murderers agree......Gun control works!!!
I love you dude. Stand up to the naiveness and despotism the gun control advocates want.
DethMachineEngage 4 years ago
gun control isnt bout guns, its bout control
BigNastyBastard602 4 years ago 2
if 100 million americans want RON PAUL we will get him... the powers that be will not have a choice.. this is why our founding fathers gave us the second amendment.. if the government gets out of hand and becomes a tyrant, the Amercan citizen can and should take up arms against it to get back to a constitutional government.. why else do you think that the government wants gun control.
SPACE3200 4 years ago
Sounds like you are thinking about things though. Keep it up. To many people out there don't think.
Kabloooy 4 years ago
thanks for the compliment
frionelhero 4 years ago
About the idea of cities with strict gun control having lower gun crime rates take a look at Washington DC. You can't have a firearm there at all for self defense use. The crime rate their is through the roof.
Kabloooy 4 years ago
Allowing cities to come up with their own gun control laws is a bad idea. Just imagine driving across a state with your handgun and every 5 miles or so the laws changed. One says you have to have your gun in the trunk, one says you have to take it apart and store it in the glove compartment, another says it has to be in plain view. What a mess. What if they did that with traffic signs. Imaging the confusion.
Kabloooy 4 years ago
thats a good point...though I still think local gun control is better then federal gun control if there has to be any at all. But all in all there should be none or very little...like background checks etc. And you shouldn't get in trouble if a firearm is within your property (which includes your vehicle)...God...why couldn't politicians follow the constitution?
frionelhero 4 years ago
That is the case though, counties are allowed in some instance to infer their own guns laws, the universal federal and state laws apply, however some counties and cities enact their own legislation. This is especially prevalent with concealed carry laws, which do vary by county and state.
jubeigh13 2 years ago
good vid...and gun crime may go down in those countries but crime in general goes up
fefu23 4 years ago 2
civilians need guns to keep govrement oppresion at bay
impaler999 4 years ago 10
With handguns and rifles? Really? I guess its better than nothing but won't do too much against an APC; just ask David Koresh. Drop the illusion that the people have any power in this country, they don't. We put up a good fight in 1861-65 but lost - now we are seeing the result. A country who's only purpose is profit - the takeover of true America ideals by the Northern Puritan philosophy.
jdcremin 3 years ago
Veterans Disarmament Act (HR 2640)
The right to bear arms was included in the Bill of Rights in order to protect Citizens against the tyranny of Government. Strip Citizens of their right to defend themselves and you'll have Despotism in short order. Gun control works. Ask Hitler, Stalin or Mao.
AntiFed1791 4 years ago 4