all i have to say is wow.... you guys are funny. i started my days as a ld9 motor guy with the j body, went to honda for a bit between 2nd gen integra and 3 gen, loved the b16, just a solid motor, moved onto dsm, ran 2nd gens for years, now im onthe 1.8t euro build. not gonna lie, my 04 gti is my car iv owned, people hate on the 1.8t all the time, drop a couple dollars into it and the power to weight ratio rediculous. i did full brake/ suspension/ apr stage 3 kit, little fuckers fast as shit
@flurry, Volkswagen's are complete garbage. They try to compensate lack of engineering by shoving boost down its throat. You say the Honda isn't shit without the"$3,000" swap? First off, clearly your a Volkswagen guy and your use to paying way to much for parts. I'm sorry, but a b16 complete swap is less than $2,000. And they're so easy to work on, anyone with basic mechanical knowledge can do it in their garage in an afternoon. take away the 14 psi from the Volkswagen and see how it does.
@te37drift I would like to hear your argument about VW being garbage. The only reason why VW puts boost on their cars is because of compression ratio. It also seems as though your only argument about VW's is that our parts are expensive? Listen here friend, Id rather push my VW home than drive a Honda. I have killed many k20, b16 and all the other bullshit you guys put in your cars and that was when my heavy 2010 was stock. Needless to say they wouldnt stand a chance now. Not even against my 91
@99g07p lol not my car? Hahaha ok. And you say that it seems slow huh? Watch the freeway run again. I don't put my foot down until about :15 and I lift at about :25. So 60-140 in 10 seconds, that's slow to you? Damn. You must be making 1000hp to be talking that kind of shit. Keep in mind, this video was untuned on 14psi with a base map with no vtec. The car since is now an additional 150whp and 130ftlbs. And you would rather push your vw home than drive a Honda home? What a coincidence because
@te37drift Do you really think that 80 MPH jump in 10 seconds is fast? I do 140 in 3rd gear with an older car than you have. My 91 is plenty quick. It's hilarious you think we are trying to take part in "your world". Keep doing like everyone else does and swap your k20's and b16's in your little bubble backs. Just remember one thing, take the money you put into your swapped car and put it right back into the VW and it will be ahead once again.
@te37drift I also enjoy how you guys rely on the"vtec" kicking in. Give me a break, by the time that vtec kicks in its time to shift. Your cars dont have any torque. We have a bigger and better scene. Our cars are faster and look much better than the piece of shit hondas that you guys drive. We dont try to "race" everyone on the street because we have a big exhaust on our cars. Always remember our cars are better and faster. As I said before, my cars are plenty fast and I know what I have.
@99g07p that's probably what you would end up doing. Vw is inefficient unreliable garage plain and simple. They always break down. But it's cool. The Honda community doesn't want more of you "hellaflush" euro fags trying to take part in our world. We would rather just laugh from a distance at your gangster lean, dtm exhaust tips, and horrible wheel fitment stretched tires, and impractical camber.
@te37drift Yes I would rather push my VW than drive a Honda. And of course you will be laughing from a distance, all you will see is the back of our hatches. Its funny you try to poke fun at our cars. Why dont you go paint your car lime green and throw that big ol' wing on the back of it. Dont forget to put on your big cherry bomb exhaust and carbon fibber, yes fibber, hood. Now you guys are doing the tow hook thing like we do, but instead its this big ass piece of metal sticking out the bumper
@te37drift Also, I looked at your videos, and none of them seem to be of your car. They are all videos of someones blue hatch on a dyno. I saw one of a Honda on the highway. Looked very very slow to me. I respect some Hondas, but I will not respect someone who just does a b16 swap in their bubbleback and thinks that their car is the fastest in the world. Like I said, my cars are plenty fast and have beaten many Honda fanboys. Im not saying I can beat everyone, but I know what I have beat already
@tnasty830 there is no either its a 1.8T if it was a mk5 then it would be the 2.0T if that was a 2.0 with a turbo upgrade it would have destroyed that honda far worse then it just did.
we can appreciate a Virtually Toqueless Economic Car losing against German Engineering in this video. I don't hate hondas, but hey! They really are torqueless, not to mention all the SUPER noise and NO GO.
@JHoover8984 oh i get it!! because vw's are from germany!! hahahahahahahahahahahahaha oh except the germans were the ones putting people in those camps..... looks like germany wins again.
The Honda already swapped a WHOLE ENGINE worth $3,000 + labor!
Even then, with a guzzling, noisy and peaky "hardcore" Honda Type R engine, at most can barely match the non-chipped GTI horsepower with 15 lb-ft LESS torque.
Since 1976, the GTI has always been the king of the hot hatches!
I do. Because I was saying that if it wasn't chipped then that Honda is pretty down on power! Don't worry I'm all for the Volkswagen. I hate jap cars.
dude still couldnt drive lol when u let it hit rev limiter like that ur cuttin fuel hence the technical term (fuel cut off) lol so ur car jus doesnt put power down....jesus i think that honda needs a driver modification....
if dude in the b16 swap knew how to slam through those gears perfectly he want zoom right past with no problem.160 hp coming at ya at 8000rpm would be enough to pass that VW you can tell that he could of pulled ahead if he knew how to go through the gears perfect.
@knowshondas yes I've drivin many cars with a b16a2 like the guy in the vid. As long you hit 3rd gear perfectly, not hitting rev limiter or not too under the redline which is 8300rpm and quickly rip it into 3rd..thats it !your pulling ahead.The b16 tranny has a very short gear that makes up for its lack of torq that will quickly put you in the powerband where the b16 its most deadliest at.Its a shame to see a guy with a nice swap and can't even properly go through the gears.
@jeffs789 in this situation no, b16 has no torq to make up for the time lost in acceleration from slow and bad shifting. Guy with the b16 is relying mostly on mid-high reving to get power to keep the car moving AKA Horsepower. If u disrupt the power that keeps that car moving at a constant rate IE-bad shifting then u will lose no matter what.That is why the b16 comes with a short geared tranny to compensate for torq, which shoots u quickly into ur powerband around 5500k to 8300k
@arthy704 Well sure but with such a short gear ratio its certainly not going to win a long term race. I just sort of feel like Honda civics were not designed to be race cars and maybe any four banger will never be anything more than an econobox. Im not trying to be rude but just speaking the truth. I have a VW and would i would say the same thing about my car.
@jeffs789 Civics were never design to be a drag racer of course. They were design to be economy shit box that can do 30+ mpg which is very important now days. Now if you want to talk about real racing which is racing in circuits and such, then we can talk about the Type R version of the civic with a b16b motor outputting 170+ hp from a such small displacement.I use to own VW and yes I know the whole history and the way they were engineered. Truly amazing machine.
@ronh129 Sure the VW beat him fair and square but fact is the Honda is the faster car - look at the pull through 1st gear! If he did't screw up then he would have had him in every other gear too!
@knowshondas Not true. He got the hit and ran out 1st before the 1.8T. Thats because of turbo lag. Every subsequent gear the VW continues to pull on him, were they equal or the honda was faster the VW would not have been walking away from him. I actually researched most of that info about 4 years ago before I bought me AWP 1.8T. You and probably 6 other people call the AWW the 1st gen 1.8t. You also called the civic a crx. And I'll go ahead an call BS on you owning a 1.8T.
@ronh129 I did say a CR-X, I made a mistake - have you ever made one? You are in denial and not very observant b/c every gear the VW pulls away ( I can see that ) but thats because the Honda driver still bounces off the rev limiter you goof!
This is my last post with you because you are simply retarded and do not know cars what so ever! And, a little birdie told me aren't a certified CAT TECH :)
@knowshondas Even mid pull before he rices the rev limiter the vw is pulling. If the honda was faster he'd catch up, then lose ground when hes ricing the rev limiter, then pull him back in.. etc etc. And what is it I'm denying?
@rafaelislife5 well unfortunately its impossible to break boost with a staock ecu. when the vehicle detects strain on the turbo it shuts it down. so no... no break boosting
@IIXUntamedXII dats wat i am saying is not to bash vw's cuz im looking 4 a early 90's jetta .......(slammed deep ass camber hmmmmm)...any ways bak 2 da subject. Ive seen Ls hatchs beat vr6's so a 1.8 turbo beating a b16 hatch idk bro
@IIXUntamedXII That's not entirely correct... It doesn't "detect strain on the turbo..."
VW is smarter than toyota, so if it detects the brakes are applied while there is throttle input, it cuts off the throttle input. To prove this, give it throttle and use your handbrake to drag the car down... (Not too long, you've glaze the rear pads or put flat spots the tires)
You did prove you were faster - u walked that euro-trash through 1st but then you mis-shifted like a chump, so improve your shifting for fuck - sakes....making us Hondas guys look bad!
@knowshondas He didn't miss a shift, he bounced it off the rev limiter like most of the honda racing tools do. That 12" tach and shift light is only for looks. Also, the reason he got a jump on the start is because the honda is naturally aspirated. A turbo charged car needs to spool up first, and if he is lifting off the throttle in between shifts, he needs to start spooling again after each shift.
@ronh129 I don't need any lessons on turbos, thanks. I drive truck for a living and have been running / working on turbos larger than you head. EVERY turbo needs to spool up, so thanks for pointing out the obvious :)
The 1.8T turbos on the GOLF, AUDI, ETC. are so small they need almost no time to spool up, so no excuse on why he needed a jump.
My point is the HONDA is faster - without mis shifting OR bouncing off the rev limiter, he would have pulled even further ahead!
@knowshondas Apparently you don't know shit. Turbo car cruising is not in boost. It is actually closer to vacuum, since on this VW the electronics keeps the wastegate open, and closes it on demand. Have you owned a 1.8T? because I have, and with a stock downpipe, they quite a significant spool time. N/A cars will ALWAYS take the hit since they don't have to BUILD BOOST in a low compression engine. (IE turbo lag). I'm a CAT certified tech, I've worked on turbos bigger than honda engines. GFY.
@knowshondas Way to prove your ignorance with a racist comment towards somebody that's white. You're an idiot for saying that anyway... You mad dude? And once again, you are wrong. The stock downpipe (the exhaust part coming off the turbo [just explaining because you're an idiot]) is 55mm and in pretty much an S bend. That creates quite a lot of turbo lag, even for the small turbo. And once again, a naturally aspirated car will ALWAYS hit MUCH harder from a roll... (PS: 55mm < 2.25")
@ronh129 Again ( and lastly ) I said " almost no time to spool " I understand he still needs time to build boost but it comes on in no time which is my point here, and my initial point is that the CR-X is the faster car ( not hard to get the 3rd time around buddy )....I know this because I had the first gen of the 1.8T for 4 years! So what was I wrong about again?
@knowshondas Once again you're showing your stupidity. Whatever car takes the hit, even by a split second, has a huge advantage of first creating accelerated momentum. You also show you're stupid and know know hondas, since thats not a CRX, its an EG hatchback. And you also show either stupidity, or that you're lying (well, thats also pretty stupid) because the 1.8T gasoline power plant only came in the 4th gen style jetta.
@ronh129 I am not showing my ignorance.....in fact you are! B/C the EG Hatch is from 92-95! If you read the title its an 98! or EK or EJ8! Homo Baggins!
By the way, I mentioned I owned the first Gen of the 1.8T........figure that out before you respond to my comment again :)
@knowshondas didnt read title, haha, just saw the car, still a POS. And I did address your "first Gen" part, but you are showing your ignorance there because it wasn't a "generation" of an engine. Only difference was the turbo and tuning. And you already proved you know nothing about the difference, or how building boost works. Now go install a VTEC light or something. Or a 3rd tachometer.
I think you had to google all of that just to write to me ( don't deny it ). I have actually driven these cars so I would know best :). I owned the 02' Golf 1.8T and driven my friends 05' Golf 1.8T and can tell you it spools just as quick as mine did. And by the way, myself and others call the 150hp engine the 1st gen 1.8T :)
@knowshondas Unless you are refering to the AWW or AWV (150hp) vs AWP (180HP) engine codes, where the AWW and AWV had the K03 turbos vs the AWP K03s turbo.... then the turbo you had had a smaller hot side and ran less boost, so duh you would spool faster. Still doesn't take away from the fact that this VW was having to spool up for power both at the launch (BIG disadvantage), as well as in between every shift.
Best part about the VW is that you get the power while still having a decent looking car. The civic on the other hand, well... There's much better things to look at then that.
so your gti is bone stock with a chip? cuz you said your running 18lbs of boost in your other video...... put 18lbs of boost in that honda and itd rape that shit.
@g0ferboy uhhh yeah. when did i say it didnt? that wasnt even the question, b/c this guy posted a few videos of this race and on his other video he said he was running 18lbs of boost, but in this video he says hes stock.....Sooooo i was confused.
all cars are nice and it's up to the owner and how much money he or she can invest to make it fast.
just because it's a foreign car...it does not mean it's a ricer...what makes a car a ricer is EBAY.com and it's hella cheap parts that makes a domestic or foreign car a ricer.
VW fan are the most stupid... for my opinion you guys need a fucking turbo in ur car to be in front of a honda... im right or no???? just put a turbo in that civic and there u go fanboy
@Swtjuicy Isnt the GTI like 3 to 400lbs more in curbweight than the civic? Its power to weight not who has the bigger engine. If you like Honda so much you should know this already.
@Swtjuicy have you any sense or are you just totally not inclined with knowledge of cars? hondas (such as this one) use Vtec to make power (a high rev equals more power with a high compression engine)
where as Vw chose to just use a turbo (forced induction...more air being pushed through equals more power) so you see, the honda has its little way of making power and so does the Vw.
im not gonna disagree with you, by any means, but i think the 4's and 5's even the 6's are very nice looking. i still wouldnt mind owning a mk1-3. i was gonna buy a mk3 for only 600 bucks but i quit my job and rent takes priority. :(
@robh23a1 thats because there are FAR FEWER gtis period on the street, they tend to cost a little more and only a select crowd buys them not like hondas where everyone and their brother is driving around in some rice mobile
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@mikethebeast1012 it's finny how fag wagon's cost more and still tend to get shitted on even when they come stock turbo.Like I said they aint shit in this vid the guy in the hatch cant race 4 shit if it were me i would had lit his shit up.
@robh23a1 get shitted on? i believe this one walked away the winner. what is VERY funny is that ignorant people think just because a car has a turbo on it that its used to make it go faster, WRONG, the setup on the 1.8T (and the 2.0T) is simply meant to make the engines more efficient, this gives it a little more power but the main concern is efficiency, $600 stg1 APR tune and ALL STOCK parts gets you up to 204hp/242lbs, efficiency goes out the window and hondas arent even in the same league
throw up a video of you smoking anything other than a cock in your car and maybe one of us will believe you...not me, anyone who says vw sucks is as useful as a sweaty taint.
wow.... round two that piece a shit honda got raped again!! when r you dumbass people gonna learn that hondas arent fast?! even after the fart can, clear lights, wing, ans stick on vents. keep them in the grocery store parking lot where they humbly await their middle aged soccer mom owners. fuck rice!
@Xveedub2nr4lifeX ricers aren't just for hondas...wtf do you call those vw's in europe with huge body kits and 5 tone paintjobs and crazy wide wheels?i've seen cleaner dubs here in north america, and if you haven't noticed that civic in video actually looks pretty clean
@sh1ftn as far as those body kits and paintjobs im not entirely sure what you mean but the setup for wide wheels you are speaking of actually costs a decent ammount of money and looks clean as hell, unlike a $20 ebay fart cannon which looks and sounds cheap
the black dude stole the civic, then bought some KFC then lost against a VW haha life is good ;) by the way that crack head needs some driving lessons, he thinks he's cool shifting like that...
lol the honda even with an engine swap, and what sounded like an exhaust with the same tone as a man with an extremely loose asshole parading down the street, and god only knows what other mods....still lost! lol thank god me and my girlfriend only buy vw!
vtec kick but faggot dont kno how ta shift cuz dat shti redline long as hell.... if he had shift on time, hatch woulda kick gti's ass.... faggot black dude cant race
lol did you see how the gti continued to pull on the critically acclaimed "god like b16 engine swapped civic"? umm a cause if we were watching the same video, then i think that it is very clear that the honda stood absolutely no chance against that fine piece of machinery!
all i have to say is wow.... you guys are funny. i started my days as a ld9 motor guy with the j body, went to honda for a bit between 2nd gen integra and 3 gen, loved the b16, just a solid motor, moved onto dsm, ran 2nd gens for years, now im onthe 1.8t euro build. not gonna lie, my 04 gti is my car iv owned, people hate on the 1.8t all the time, drop a couple dollars into it and the power to weight ratio rediculous. i did full brake/ suspension/ apr stage 3 kit, little fuckers fast as shit
godcreatedinfantry 1 month ago
The vw is just cruising so silently compared to the Honda. Haha
911Playmaker 1 month ago 3
Vw are like niggers...all look alike.
Modifier84 1 month ago
@Modifier84 Honda's are like girls all sound alike :D
W4TCH4W 3 weeks ago
what a lot of idiots...
honda had in the 80 a better engine and drivetrain than vw in 2010^^
ImportTuner133 2 months ago
The Honda sounds so terrible. Even for a 4 cylinder. Its like a broken blender.
drewglis 2 months ago
Honda ftw, but dude, you got to shift a bit earlier...
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@flurry, Volkswagen's are complete garbage. They try to compensate lack of engineering by shoving boost down its throat. You say the Honda isn't shit without the"$3,000" swap? First off, clearly your a Volkswagen guy and your use to paying way to much for parts. I'm sorry, but a b16 complete swap is less than $2,000. And they're so easy to work on, anyone with basic mechanical knowledge can do it in their garage in an afternoon. take away the 14 psi from the Volkswagen and see how it does.
te37drift 3 months ago
@te37drift I would like to hear your argument about VW being garbage. The only reason why VW puts boost on their cars is because of compression ratio. It also seems as though your only argument about VW's is that our parts are expensive? Listen here friend, Id rather push my VW home than drive a Honda. I have killed many k20, b16 and all the other bullshit you guys put in your cars and that was when my heavy 2010 was stock. Needless to say they wouldnt stand a chance now. Not even against my 91
99g07p 3 months ago
@99g07p lol not my car? Hahaha ok. And you say that it seems slow huh? Watch the freeway run again. I don't put my foot down until about :15 and I lift at about :25. So 60-140 in 10 seconds, that's slow to you? Damn. You must be making 1000hp to be talking that kind of shit. Keep in mind, this video was untuned on 14psi with a base map with no vtec. The car since is now an additional 150whp and 130ftlbs. And you would rather push your vw home than drive a Honda home? What a coincidence because
te37drift 3 months ago
@te37drift Do you really think that 80 MPH jump in 10 seconds is fast? I do 140 in 3rd gear with an older car than you have. My 91 is plenty quick. It's hilarious you think we are trying to take part in "your world". Keep doing like everyone else does and swap your k20's and b16's in your little bubble backs. Just remember one thing, take the money you put into your swapped car and put it right back into the VW and it will be ahead once again.
99g07p 3 months ago
@te37drift I also enjoy how you guys rely on the"vtec" kicking in. Give me a break, by the time that vtec kicks in its time to shift. Your cars dont have any torque. We have a bigger and better scene. Our cars are faster and look much better than the piece of shit hondas that you guys drive. We dont try to "race" everyone on the street because we have a big exhaust on our cars. Always remember our cars are better and faster. As I said before, my cars are plenty fast and I know what I have.
99g07p 3 months ago
@99g07p that's probably what you would end up doing. Vw is inefficient unreliable garage plain and simple. They always break down. But it's cool. The Honda community doesn't want more of you "hellaflush" euro fags trying to take part in our world. We would rather just laugh from a distance at your gangster lean, dtm exhaust tips, and horrible wheel fitment stretched tires, and impractical camber.
te37drift 3 months ago
@te37drift Yes I would rather push my VW than drive a Honda. And of course you will be laughing from a distance, all you will see is the back of our hatches. Its funny you try to poke fun at our cars. Why dont you go paint your car lime green and throw that big ol' wing on the back of it. Dont forget to put on your big cherry bomb exhaust and carbon fibber, yes fibber, hood. Now you guys are doing the tow hook thing like we do, but instead its this big ass piece of metal sticking out the bumper
99g07p 3 months ago
@te37drift Also, I looked at your videos, and none of them seem to be of your car. They are all videos of someones blue hatch on a dyno. I saw one of a Honda on the highway. Looked very very slow to me. I respect some Hondas, but I will not respect someone who just does a b16 swap in their bubbleback and thinks that their car is the fastest in the world. Like I said, my cars are plenty fast and have beaten many Honda fanboys. Im not saying I can beat everyone, but I know what I have beat already
99g07p 3 months ago
honda people always have excuses...
kmkstyblzd420 5 months ago 7
LOL honda makin mad noise and the quit ass gti just destoyed it
i240sxDRIFT 6 months ago 2
Baaaaap-p-p-p-p! put-put-put!
Swapped the engine, but he forgot to remove the particulary heavy vanity mirror, cigarrette lighter and the hubcaps!
VTEC just kicked in, YO!
flurry 6 months ago
hahaha i love how in every video the honda makes so much noise and usuallly gets walked.. fucking young punksss with their lawnmowers
sranjesuper 6 months ago
Dude in the Honda sucks at driving and looks slow ... :( was hoping Honda was gonna win
rayrayray602 7 months ago
i am bored
17sti 7 months ago
i like both cars, but honda do seem to produce some quality products. Also love the oldskool golfs!
Fuzion180 7 months ago
get. raped.
bonfu1 7 months ago
Lol even wit the b16 swap u stil kant drive lol over revved twice n the verdict is germ beat jap again
fbistuntman51o 8 months ago
@fbistuntman51o "germ beat jap again" - the GTI has 1,6l engine too? NO! Got TURBO? YES! Can it beat K20 without turbo??? I don't think so!
Loloss27 6 months ago
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flurry 6 months ago
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@Loloss27
Got VHYPEC? YES!
Can a K20 move at all without a tricked VTEC torqueless valve or 400lb lighter cardboard-filled Honda chassis????
At 2.2 (22% more displacement and fuel guzzling) can it even match the torque of a bone-stock 1.8 GTI????
I don't think so!
Watch this video 100 times, and 100 times the VSHIT still loses to the chubby guy from Superbad!
VTEC ® just kicked in, YO!
flurry 6 months ago
@Loloss27 its either a 1.8 or 2.0 liter.
tnasty830 6 months ago
@tnasty830 there is no either its a 1.8T if it was a mk5 then it would be the 2.0T if that was a 2.0 with a turbo upgrade it would have destroyed that honda far worse then it just did.
xXxpaWLxXx 4 months ago
@Loloss27 GTi is a 1.8T not a 1.6 and if it had a revo ora unitronic tune it would kill the K20 easy
xXxpaWLxXx 4 months ago
@xXxpaWLxXx If, if...
Loloss27 4 months ago
@Loloss27 i dont need no if if my mkII coupe has killed its fair share of k20's
xXxpaWLxXx 4 months ago
vw looks link a jeep ahahahahahah
hondaorido 8 months ago
To the modified Honda Ricers out there, pick any:
1. Wait for me! Pleease!
2. I didn't hear my own horn! Not fair!
3. I launched early, so I should had won!
4. I need NOS! Make that two!
5. I missed 3rd gear!
6. Not fair, my Honda was cheaper (before the B16 swap)!
7. My Fart Cannon makes tons of noise, so *felt* like I was going faster!
8. You didn't gave a chance to do a Honda "fly-by" after defeated!
VTEC just kicked in, yo!
flurry 8 months ago 9
@flurry 9. vw has more displacement and FI. Havent seen and honda fan boys try that one. :P haha
DUNK6AROO 1 month ago
we can appreciate a Virtually Toqueless Economic Car losing against German Engineering in this video. I don't hate hondas, but hey! They really are torqueless, not to mention all the SUPER noise and NO GO.
PernellDD 8 months ago 3
people who drive hondas need to die
albo1278 9 months ago
@albo1278 fags that drive vw's need to burn in a concentration camp
JHoover8984 8 months ago 2
@JHoover8984 oh i get it!! because vw's are from germany!! hahahahahahahahahahahahaha oh except the germans were the ones putting people in those camps..... looks like germany wins again.
bonfu1 7 months ago
@albo1278 that's a little harsh
kyleisreallycool 7 months ago
HAHA stock as fuck GTI :P
theloser92 9 months ago
Was that GTI chipped? If not then this is LOL
Pendemic 10 months ago
@Pendemic
Who cares if the GTI had a $400 chip mod or not?
The Honda already swapped a WHOLE ENGINE worth $3,000 + labor!
Even then, with a guzzling, noisy and peaky "hardcore" Honda Type R engine, at most can barely match the non-chipped GTI horsepower with 15 lb-ft LESS torque.
Since 1976, the GTI has always been the king of the hot hatches!
flurry 8 months ago 2
@flurry
I do. Because I was saying that if it wasn't chipped then that Honda is pretty down on power! Don't worry I'm all for the Volkswagen. I hate jap cars.
Pendemic 8 months ago
@Pendemic
I know, dude.
flurry 8 months ago
I'd rather have a GTi than a trick Honda.
rzorNvme 10 months ago
another honda bites the dust
deathrow209 11 months ago
hondas are pretty impressive carrs. but i still prefer volkswagen.
EmmureSTYG 11 months ago
kala megale mono gia patinh kai xorto eise.odhgeis me gypso sta xeria file eise terma koulos blakako mpanista
whiteef9 1 year ago
Pos b16 swap and still can't beat a stock car. Fail
mrdragking13 1 year ago
dude still couldnt drive lol when u let it hit rev limiter like that ur cuttin fuel hence the technical term (fuel cut off) lol so ur car jus doesnt put power down....jesus i think that honda needs a driver modification....
integrafan01 1 year ago
maybe if that dude wasnt fat in the gti it would go even faster fat people<skinny people
johnsanford3 1 year ago
damn it civic learn how to drive.
spoonfedek9 1 year ago
if dude in the b16 swap knew how to slam through those gears perfectly he want zoom right past with no problem.160 hp coming at ya at 8000rpm would be enough to pass that VW you can tell that he could of pulled ahead if he knew how to go through the gears perfect.
arthy704 1 year ago
@arthy704 Thank You! Somebody who can see what I see!
knowshondas 1 year ago
@knowshondas yes I've drivin many cars with a b16a2 like the guy in the vid. As long you hit 3rd gear perfectly, not hitting rev limiter or not too under the redline which is 8300rpm and quickly rip it into 3rd..thats it !your pulling ahead.The b16 tranny has a very short gear that makes up for its lack of torq that will quickly put you in the powerband where the b16 its most deadliest at.Its a shame to see a guy with a nice swap and can't even properly go through the gears.
arthy704 1 year ago
@arthy704 Wouldn't an engine thats fast make up for all the shifting errors this guy made
jeffs789 1 year ago
@jeffs789 in this situation no, b16 has no torq to make up for the time lost in acceleration from slow and bad shifting. Guy with the b16 is relying mostly on mid-high reving to get power to keep the car moving AKA Horsepower. If u disrupt the power that keeps that car moving at a constant rate IE-bad shifting then u will lose no matter what.That is why the b16 comes with a short geared tranny to compensate for torq, which shoots u quickly into ur powerband around 5500k to 8300k
arthy704 1 year ago
@arthy704 Well sure but with such a short gear ratio its certainly not going to win a long term race. I just sort of feel like Honda civics were not designed to be race cars and maybe any four banger will never be anything more than an econobox. Im not trying to be rude but just speaking the truth. I have a VW and would i would say the same thing about my car.
jeffs789 1 year ago
@jeffs789 Civics were never design to be a drag racer of course. They were design to be economy shit box that can do 30+ mpg which is very important now days. Now if you want to talk about real racing which is racing in circuits and such, then we can talk about the Type R version of the civic with a b16b motor outputting 170+ hp from a such small displacement.I use to own VW and yes I know the whole history and the way they were engineered. Truly amazing machine.
arthy704 1 year ago
@jeffs789 at the end of the day if u have a civic,jetta,accord,GLI's,S2000's,r32's.. it don't matter if u cant shift for shit then ur gonn lose
arthy704 1 year ago
@arthy704 Well said brother .
knowshondas 1 year ago
Fact remains the VW is the faster car.
ronh129 1 year ago
@ronh129 Sure the VW beat him fair and square but fact is the Honda is the faster car - look at the pull through 1st gear! If he did't screw up then he would have had him in every other gear too!
knowshondas 1 year ago
@knowshondas Not true. He got the hit and ran out 1st before the 1.8T. Thats because of turbo lag. Every subsequent gear the VW continues to pull on him, were they equal or the honda was faster the VW would not have been walking away from him. I actually researched most of that info about 4 years ago before I bought me AWP 1.8T. You and probably 6 other people call the AWW the 1st gen 1.8t. You also called the civic a crx. And I'll go ahead an call BS on you owning a 1.8T.
ronh129 1 year ago
@ronh129 I did say a CR-X, I made a mistake - have you ever made one? You are in denial and not very observant b/c every gear the VW pulls away ( I can see that ) but thats because the Honda driver still bounces off the rev limiter you goof!
This is my last post with you because you are simply retarded and do not know cars what so ever! And, a little birdie told me aren't a certified CAT TECH :)
Later queer!
knowshondas 1 year ago
@knowshondas Even mid pull before he rices the rev limiter the vw is pulling. If the honda was faster he'd catch up, then lose ground when hes ricing the rev limiter, then pull him back in.. etc etc. And what is it I'm denying?
ronh129 1 year ago
wait wait wait....is that some lady drivin that dub haha
Smalls989 1 year ago
yeah, but do 2005 gti vs 2005 civic si.... then lets see who will win. manual vs manual
mujjuman 1 year ago
Wow the Honda dude can't shift for shit dat shoulda been a closer race specially if day gti was not brake boosting
rafaelislife5 1 year ago 6
@rafaelislife5 well unfortunately its impossible to break boost with a staock ecu. when the vehicle detects strain on the turbo it shuts it down. so no... no break boosting
IIXUntamedXII 1 year ago 6
@IIXUntamedXII dats wat i am saying is not to bash vw's cuz im looking 4 a early 90's jetta .......(slammed deep ass camber hmmmmm)...any ways bak 2 da subject. Ive seen Ls hatchs beat vr6's so a 1.8 turbo beating a b16 hatch idk bro
rafaelislife5 1 year ago
@IIXUntamedXII That's not entirely correct... It doesn't "detect strain on the turbo..."
VW is smarter than toyota, so if it detects the brakes are applied while there is throttle input, it cuts off the throttle input. To prove this, give it throttle and use your handbrake to drag the car down... (Not too long, you've glaze the rear pads or put flat spots the tires)
ronh129 1 year ago
@IIXUntamedXII I meant "you'll glaze..." not "you've"
ronh129 1 year ago
@IIXUntamedXII
i cant believe you knew that, i looked it up because i cant do it on mine.
pauLx022 1 year ago
@rafaelislife5
ur an idiot. unless u know anything about vws dont say nothing at all.
blazeitup1 1 year ago
@blazeitup1 bro fuk u idc wat u think end of topic
rafaelislife5 1 year ago
@rafaelislife5 see if i was drivin the vw and this guy was drivin the honda i bet we coulda done a shit load better race than that
MrZentic777 10 months ago
you borked your vtec on that shift to 2nd bra
DemonOfRazgriz89 1 year ago
Nice race vdub ftw :) was there any mods or stock?
jaybird564 1 year ago
You did prove you were faster - u walked that euro-trash through 1st but then you mis-shifted like a chump, so improve your shifting for fuck - sakes....making us Hondas guys look bad!
knowshondas 1 year ago
@knowshondas umm just wanted to sayy ...... VTEC JUST GOT SHIT ON y00000!!
bRunOO69 1 year ago
@knowshondas He didn't miss a shift, he bounced it off the rev limiter like most of the honda racing tools do. That 12" tach and shift light is only for looks. Also, the reason he got a jump on the start is because the honda is naturally aspirated. A turbo charged car needs to spool up first, and if he is lifting off the throttle in between shifts, he needs to start spooling again after each shift.
ronh129 1 year ago
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knowshondas 1 year ago
@ronh129 I don't need any lessons on turbos, thanks. I drive truck for a living and have been running / working on turbos larger than you head. EVERY turbo needs to spool up, so thanks for pointing out the obvious :)
The 1.8T turbos on the GOLF, AUDI, ETC. are so small they need almost no time to spool up, so no excuse on why he needed a jump.
My point is the HONDA is faster - without mis shifting OR bouncing off the rev limiter, he would have pulled even further ahead!
knowshondas 1 year ago
@knowshondas Apparently you don't know shit. Turbo car cruising is not in boost. It is actually closer to vacuum, since on this VW the electronics keeps the wastegate open, and closes it on demand. Have you owned a 1.8T? because I have, and with a stock downpipe, they quite a significant spool time. N/A cars will ALWAYS take the hit since they don't have to BUILD BOOST in a low compression engine. (IE turbo lag). I'm a CAT certified tech, I've worked on turbos bigger than honda engines. GFY.
ronh129 1 year ago
@ronh129 I mentioned " almost no time " to spool - read again ( dummy nigger )
knowshondas 1 year ago
@knowshondas Way to prove your ignorance with a racist comment towards somebody that's white. You're an idiot for saying that anyway... You mad dude? And once again, you are wrong. The stock downpipe (the exhaust part coming off the turbo [just explaining because you're an idiot]) is 55mm and in pretty much an S bend. That creates quite a lot of turbo lag, even for the small turbo. And once again, a naturally aspirated car will ALWAYS hit MUCH harder from a roll... (PS: 55mm < 2.25")
ronh129 1 year ago
@ronh129 Again ( and lastly ) I said " almost no time to spool " I understand he still needs time to build boost but it comes on in no time which is my point here, and my initial point is that the CR-X is the faster car ( not hard to get the 3rd time around buddy )....I know this because I had the first gen of the 1.8T for 4 years! So what was I wrong about again?
knowshondas 1 year ago
@knowshondas Once again you're showing your stupidity. Whatever car takes the hit, even by a split second, has a huge advantage of first creating accelerated momentum. You also show you're stupid and know know hondas, since thats not a CRX, its an EG hatchback. And you also show either stupidity, or that you're lying (well, thats also pretty stupid) because the 1.8T gasoline power plant only came in the 4th gen style jetta.
ronh129 1 year ago
@ronh129 I am not showing my ignorance.....in fact you are! B/C the EG Hatch is from 92-95! If you read the title its an 98! or EK or EJ8! Homo Baggins!
By the way, I mentioned I owned the first Gen of the 1.8T........figure that out before you respond to my comment again :)
knowshondas 1 year ago
@knowshondas didnt read title, haha, just saw the car, still a POS. And I did address your "first Gen" part, but you are showing your ignorance there because it wasn't a "generation" of an engine. Only difference was the turbo and tuning. And you already proved you know nothing about the difference, or how building boost works. Now go install a VTEC light or something. Or a 3rd tachometer.
ronh129 1 year ago
I think you had to google all of that just to write to me ( don't deny it ). I have actually driven these cars so I would know best :). I owned the 02' Golf 1.8T and driven my friends 05' Golf 1.8T and can tell you it spools just as quick as mine did. And by the way, myself and others call the 150hp engine the 1st gen 1.8T :)
knowshondas 1 year ago
@knowshondas Unless you are refering to the AWW or AWV (150hp) vs AWP (180HP) engine codes, where the AWW and AWV had the K03 turbos vs the AWP K03s turbo.... then the turbo you had had a smaller hot side and ran less boost, so duh you would spool faster. Still doesn't take away from the fact that this VW was having to spool up for power both at the launch (BIG disadvantage), as well as in between every shift.
ronh129 1 year ago
civics suck dick hole! Go German! I have a stage 2 Revo 05 GTI 1.8T that would kick both of there asses lol
ajsullyvincennes 1 year ago
See what people don't realize is the Gti is a fucking 1.8L that's turbo
If it takes any car or keeps up with it, it's pretty amazing for a small engine that pulls all that weight.
If honda's are so amazing and last so long, why did the germans come up with the 1.8t rocket?
I am satisfied with my stage 2 Gti '01 series
For it's class and engine size, its too much power for it LOL
Only VDubb owners know what I'm talking about
richkh01 1 year ago
Best part about the VW is that you get the power while still having a decent looking car. The civic on the other hand, well... There's much better things to look at then that.
orochimaruisugly 1 year ago
GTI is about 300-350 pounds heavier.
civoreb 1 year ago
u bolth need work on shifting. lmao but good video!!
sage057 1 year ago
so your gti is bone stock with a chip? cuz you said your running 18lbs of boost in your other video...... put 18lbs of boost in that honda and itd rape that shit.
ZerOArtGFX 1 year ago
@ZerOArtGFX you do realize it comes stock with a turbo...
g0ferboy 1 year ago
@g0ferboy uhhh yeah. when did i say it didnt? that wasnt even the question, b/c this guy posted a few videos of this race and on his other video he said he was running 18lbs of boost, but in this video he says hes stock.....Sooooo i was confused.
ZerOArtGFX 1 year ago
2005 gti?
hwyone 1 year ago
all cars are nice and it's up to the owner and how much money he or she can invest to make it fast.
just because it's a foreign car...it does not mean it's a ricer...what makes a car a ricer is EBAY.com and it's hella cheap parts that makes a domestic or foreign car a ricer.
oceansfront 1 year ago
All VW fans crack me up!!! I don't what to ever hear about the weight of a vehicle anymore!!! That's just an excuse.
MegaMarshal 1 year ago
LS trans poor running ftl
Euphorica 1 year ago
yo vw is garbage and da parts r xpensive put a turbo in dat civic and it can take any piece shit vw and da dude keeps on miss shifting
dominicanpapi191 1 year ago
@1337chsacker 3200lbs? um My Mk3 Jetta VR6 is 2900 stock. MK3 GTIs I think are around 2800. MK4s GTIs around 3100.
JoshChadwick 1 year ago
I cant stand the sound that hondas make. Its so fucking anoying.
JoshChadwick 1 year ago
VW fan are the most stupid... for my opinion you guys need a fucking turbo in ur car to be in front of a honda... im right or no???? just put a turbo in that civic and there u go fanboy
Swtjuicy 1 year ago
@Swtjuicy Isnt the GTI like 3 to 400lbs more in curbweight than the civic? Its power to weight not who has the bigger engine. If you like Honda so much you should know this already.
JoshChadwick 1 year ago
@Swtjuicy have you any sense or are you just totally not inclined with knowledge of cars? hondas (such as this one) use Vtec to make power (a high rev equals more power with a high compression engine)
where as Vw chose to just use a turbo (forced induction...more air being pushed through equals more power) so you see, the honda has its little way of making power and so does the Vw.
WeNeedFoodPlease 1 year ago
owned
myuzz 1 year ago
lol that swaped really helped.
JoshChadwick 1 year ago
im not gonna disagree with you, by any means, but i think the 4's and 5's even the 6's are very nice looking. i still wouldnt mind owning a mk1-3. i was gonna buy a mk3 for only 600 bucks but i quit my job and rent takes priority. :(
WeNeedFoodPlease 1 year ago 2
well of course they have more power and their sexier than a civic lol, id take a mark 5 over an si anyday lol
ElPicheGringo 1 year ago 7
this video is pathetic...
SuperBeatnuts 1 year ago
blow up!!!!
SuperBeatnuts 1 year ago
blow up already
SuperBeatnuts 1 year ago
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Its funny how people talk shit about honda's when you see more hondas on the street's racing then these fag wagon's
robh23a1 1 year ago
@robh23a1 thats because there are FAR FEWER gtis period on the street, they tend to cost a little more and only a select crowd buys them not like hondas where everyone and their brother is driving around in some rice mobile
mikethebeast1012 1 year ago 2
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@mikethebeast1012 it's finny how fag wagon's cost more and still tend to get shitted on even when they come stock turbo.Like I said they aint shit in this vid the guy in the hatch cant race 4 shit if it were me i would had lit his shit up.
robh23a1 1 year ago
@robh23a1 get shitted on? i believe this one walked away the winner. what is VERY funny is that ignorant people think just because a car has a turbo on it that its used to make it go faster, WRONG, the setup on the 1.8T (and the 2.0T) is simply meant to make the engines more efficient, this gives it a little more power but the main concern is efficiency, $600 stg1 APR tune and ALL STOCK parts gets you up to 204hp/242lbs, efficiency goes out the window and hondas arent even in the same league
mikethebeast1012 1 year ago
throw up a video of you smoking anything other than a cock in your car and maybe one of us will believe you...not me, anyone who says vw sucks is as useful as a sweaty taint.
WeNeedFoodPlease 1 year ago 2
Hondas are over rated and really cheap and eazy to brake..Thats why they're all over the place..
RatRodScirocco 1 year ago 3
wow.... round two that piece a shit honda got raped again!! when r you dumbass people gonna learn that hondas arent fast?! even after the fart can, clear lights, wing, ans stick on vents. keep them in the grocery store parking lot where they humbly await their middle aged soccer mom owners. fuck rice!
Xveedub2nr4lifeX 2 years ago 4
@Xveedub2nr4lifeX ricers aren't just for hondas...wtf do you call those vw's in europe with huge body kits and 5 tone paintjobs and crazy wide wheels?i've seen cleaner dubs here in north america, and if you haven't noticed that civic in video actually looks pretty clean
sh1ftn 2 years ago
@sh1ftn as far as those body kits and paintjobs im not entirely sure what you mean but the setup for wide wheels you are speaking of actually costs a decent ammount of money and looks clean as hell, unlike a $20 ebay fart cannon which looks and sounds cheap
mikethebeast1012 1 year ago
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because a vw is more of a sports car? i think not. it is in the same grocery getter category as the honda. stop being so ignorant.
scythe88 2 years ago
the Vdubs will always be over the imports..
ztwede 2 years ago 2
@ztwede volkswagons are imports to just to let you know.... "imports" dosent mean only japaneese
RAWWWR1717 1 year ago
This is true VWs are a import but, they run on beer instead f rice..
RatRodScirocco 1 year ago 16
More like douchebag juice
vR6sLaYa 1 year ago
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German trash, that gti is ugly.
InsanityRewritten 2 years ago
the black dude stole the civic, then bought some KFC then lost against a VW haha life is good ;) by the way that crack head needs some driving lessons, he thinks he's cool shifting like that...
PernellDD 2 years ago
Honda fans have horrible grammar lol.
UberWagen 2 years ago 2
VW > Honda
ilikeimports 2 years ago 10
best part? GTI was bone ass stock...why don't these honda fools realize?
ashermerkabah 2 years ago 5
haha, with you on that one ;)
ilikeimports 2 years ago
lol the honda even with an engine swap, and what sounded like an exhaust with the same tone as a man with an extremely loose asshole parading down the street, and god only knows what other mods....still lost! lol thank god me and my girlfriend only buy vw!
WeNeedFoodPlease 1 year ago 3
Why does everyone on youtube not know how to drive a honda without bouncing off the fucking rev IDIOTS!!!!!
vR6sLaYa 2 years ago
vtec kick but faggot dont kno how ta shift cuz dat shti redline long as hell.... if he had shift on time, hatch woulda kick gti's ass.... faggot black dude cant race
HondaVW615 2 years ago
i didnt notice at first but i watched it again and it sounds horrible and how do u know he was black lol
KenpachiEleven 2 years ago
becuz on other races the cam was in the vw....and yea clearly he black.... heheh..lol
HondaVW615 2 years ago
lol did you see how the gti continued to pull on the critically acclaimed "god like b16 engine swapped civic"? umm a cause if we were watching the same video, then i think that it is very clear that the honda stood absolutely no chance against that fine piece of machinery!
WeNeedFoodPlease 1 year ago 2
jap garbage.....
europeanwonder2 2 years ago 12
vteck kicked in yo! it didnt that time! ha
baxter4130 2 years ago 3
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German cars suck balls lol .. nothing like tuners NOTHING .. German fags ;P
gust2571 2 years ago
haha fucke ricer lol vw forever
wolfsburghome 2 years ago 16
hey, what year wolf you got?
WeNeedFoodPlease 1 year ago
aw yea dubbin fa life
Chimichonga663 1 year ago
you know that the supras engine was partly designed by a german engineer right?
you know that the best german car will kill the best jap car right?
you know you sound like an ignorant asshole right?
you know you were just playing need for speed underground "tuning" cars right?
numba1netsfan 2 years ago 9
VW's eat honda's and shit toyota's
bigGTIdog 2 years ago 3
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I got a gsr eg and a 04 r32 so all of you suck my balls
gsrhatch14 2 years ago
his windows are down so the drag rating went up. :)
stickidude123 2 years ago
that civic sounds like shit.. no surprise there.....
livinndarkness 2 years ago 2
German cars is best forever!
eearnest30 2 years ago 3
that GTI have 185HP with turbo ? (1.8T) ???
ktosi11 2 years ago
180 bhp and it isn´t from 2005. max 2003.
klramon 2 years ago
its less then 180 dude
numba1netsfan 2 years ago
There were two engines. One with 150 and other with 180 bhp.
klramon 2 years ago
dude that black kid cant drive put me in the ek hatch and i will whoop that gti's ass
d16boosted23 2 years ago
not an EK hatch.. we don't have those here in the US..
hoosiercub 2 years ago
you sound badass!
decamerondix 2 years ago
i call bullshit on your extremely stupid statement.
WeNeedFoodPlease 1 year ago
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dude in the honda cant drive, GTI's are VERY easily pulled by hondas
pottersi 2 years ago