to all those having a theological debate on here: stop wasting your precious time. To all those who are hatin' on rap music: which Magisterial document opposes rap and hip-hop music? Let alone it praising Jesus! Would Christ say the things you're saying here to people praising Him in line with His teaching? Proclaiming oneself a better Catholic than another is one of the most hypocritical statements that can be made. Christ's Peace be with you all. God Bless, The Guitar player
Many of the Novus Ordo Masses I have attended are very Protestant in nature. Bad hymns, hand shaking, lay ministers. The pope realizes the importantance of the TLM and tradition. He celebrates the Novus Ordo the right way but most don't. That's the problem. I have seen great liberties taken by Franciscans--young adult community Masses with rock music and other innovations. Would the Orthodox do this? Please read the work of Michael Davies.
@MyBetty111 There's no "right way" to perpetrate the Novus Ordo. Read Open Letter to Confused Catholics. Also read The Great Facade: Vatican II and the Regime of Novelty. Also read Iota Unum.
This is what comes out of the Novus Ordo Franciscans. I bet their student Masses are similiar. Looks and smells "non-Catholic" to me. Thank you Vatican II for all this claptrap.
@nickelsT The pope celebrates the Novus Ordo and was an advising theologian to a bishop at Vatican II. Unless you're a sede vacantist (and thus not Catholic) then I'm not sure what your point is.
Steubenville Franciscans are "top shelf" Novus Ordo modernists. This is Southern Baptist Rock Crap. Spray the rapper with plastic bullets and "clean" the stage!
It's goofballs like this who give Franciscan students a bad "rap" pardon the pun. My daughter is a sophomore there. She is very orthodox and there is no shortage of students on campus like her. She would run like the wind from this nonsense.
@1ndabag I would submit that the entire school is quite orthodox. You may not like or feel comfortable with some of the ways some of the student choose to express their love of the Lord, but that doesn't justify your putting them down. If you truly think it is problematic, the charitable thing to do is to do everything you can to set the wrongdoer on the right path. Sniping through YouTube comments is passive aggressive ugliness.
to all those having a theological debate on here: stop wasting your precious time. To all those who are hatin' on rap music: which Magisterial document opposes rap and hip-hop music? Let alone it praising Jesus! Would Christ say the things you're saying here to people praising Him in line with His teaching? Proclaiming oneself a better Catholic than another is one of the most hypocritical statements that can be made. Christ's Peace be with you all. God Bless, The Guitar player
timh7403 2 weeks ago
Many of the Novus Ordo Masses I have attended are very Protestant in nature. Bad hymns, hand shaking, lay ministers. The pope realizes the importantance of the TLM and tradition. He celebrates the Novus Ordo the right way but most don't. That's the problem. I have seen great liberties taken by Franciscans--young adult community Masses with rock music and other innovations. Would the Orthodox do this? Please read the work of Michael Davies.
MyBetty111 10 months ago
@MyBetty111 There's no "right way" to perpetrate the Novus Ordo. Read Open Letter to Confused Catholics. Also read The Great Facade: Vatican II and the Regime of Novelty. Also read Iota Unum.
Jitpring 10 months ago
From Charismaticism to the lowest form of modern music. Makes sense to me.
234helenrose 10 months ago
I think they misunderstood their own banner exhorting them "to the offensive".
dawkinsdownfall 10 months ago
@dawkinsdownfall Perhaps you misunderstand it.
crowethm1000 10 months ago
This is what comes out of the Novus Ordo Franciscans. I bet their student Masses are similiar. Looks and smells "non-Catholic" to me. Thank you Vatican II for all this claptrap.
nickelsT 10 months ago
@nickelsT The pope celebrates the Novus Ordo and was an advising theologian to a bishop at Vatican II. Unless you're a sede vacantist (and thus not Catholic) then I'm not sure what your point is.
crowethm1000 10 months ago
Steubenville Franciscans are "top shelf" Novus Ordo modernists. This is Southern Baptist Rock Crap. Spray the rapper with plastic bullets and "clean" the stage!
nickelsT 10 months ago 2
@nickelsT Very charitable of you.
crowethm1000 10 months ago
@nickelsT hahah...Good one. Reminds me of a recent bumper sticker I made:
1517 - 2017
500 Years of Wretched Heresy
There's a pic of Luther on the left.
Go to zazzle and search for username Jitpring. I have lots of other great things there. For example:
Abortionist = Surgical Hitman
Jitpring 10 months ago
How embarrassing. But of course there are no sacred boundaries for Vatican II NewChurchers, whether they be "conservative" or not.
O age, thou art shamed.*
O shame, where is thy blush?**
-Shakespeare, Julius Caesar,* Hamlet**
Jitpring 10 months ago
@Jitpring If you are embarrassed by this that says something about you, not them.
crowethm1000 10 months ago
@crowethm1000 You're half right. It says something about both me and these philistines.
O age, thou art shamed.*
O shame, where is thy blush?**
-Shakespeare, Julius Caesar,* Hamlet**
Jitpring 10 months ago
It's goofballs like this who give Franciscan students a bad "rap" pardon the pun. My daughter is a sophomore there. She is very orthodox and there is no shortage of students on campus like her. She would run like the wind from this nonsense.
1ndabag 10 months ago
@1ndabag I would submit that the entire school is quite orthodox. You may not like or feel comfortable with some of the ways some of the student choose to express their love of the Lord, but that doesn't justify your putting them down. If you truly think it is problematic, the charitable thing to do is to do everything you can to set the wrongdoer on the right path. Sniping through YouTube comments is passive aggressive ugliness.
crowethm1000 10 months ago
Reminds me of that Vanilla Ice-wanna be rapping Priest.
ugh
jm04206 10 months ago
Profaning the Sacred Name of Jesus Christ with Diabolical Music...The Blind Liberal Catholic leading the blind.....
charles1austria 10 months ago
There is nothing more odd then a fran student! My sister got her Masters there and she says the same thing!
towbinJosh 11 months ago
@towbinJosh Forgive me, but wouldn't that make your sister a "fran student"?
crowethm1000 10 months ago