When I listen to Richter, I always see a man grabbing bunches of crystal grapes from the vine. LOL. I just love him. His music is so full of passion it uplifts me.
though Richter is not at his most 'imposing' character here, the darkness of the minor sections (e.g. 0:45) is very brooding. he makes the interposing sections simply sparkle
@AvidHobbyist thanks for uploading it! I just listened. She does many interesting things in the beginning--unexpected things I've not heard before. The coda, however... some strange hiccups here and there. I prefer her scherzo #1. Thanks again!
Si escuchando a Richter prefiero la interpretación de Argerich, entonces definitivamente la de Argerich es la mejor interpretación que pueda oírse de esta obra, y además de verdad
I agree with the part about growing up, but can I not say so much as "I don't like the way he plays the octaves"? They sounded too separated to me, one octave at a time (as opposed to Pogorelich, who makes them sound more as one line)
On other hand one should consider what he/she says and how... Phrases like "interpretation is interesting" and "It's not bad" coming from a piano student sound ridiculous. As for "octaves", let's get back to this subject in 5-10 years. You will likely change your mind by then.
Alright, I accept your condition of "let's return to the matter in 5-10 years". Maybe you would be so kind as to explain why you find my phrases so ridiculous? No sarcasm, I am curious.
Then it is ridiculous for me to say that Richter's interpretation is interesting? Methinks the complaint about the octaves far more likely to be ridiculous.
@Robotman42 Richter fanatics will only be satisfied with "AWESOME" or "THE BEST". Even if he clearly ruins a piece (I don't think he ruined the scherzo btw :D).
So next time just go with the most positive thing you can think of and everyone'll think you're a lovable genius.
The coda was "THE BEST". Pogo's no-pedal approach was also very interesting. It gives a completely different meaning than Richter or Argerich's.
Slightly lugubrious tempo, but what spacious thunder. This interpretation is every bit as valid as Van Cliburn's, whose I prefer. The latter plays from even further within. Richter obviously loves the material. What beautiful music.
Hi, u know, I've heard Richter alive in this Scherzo... it was something incredible... no comparison with this! btw, I heard another Argerich"s version{ from Warsaw, 1965}- much, much better too.
Richter is very good, his technique is brilliant, but I found Argerich much more temptating as her interpretation and feeling of Chopin's spirit I prefer more.
I like the deliberate tempo of the first theme (mostly because I could play it at that speed, I suppose), but despite the overall excellence and total lack of anything mannered, quirky, incompetent or offensive, the impact here is just a little dull.
Heresy to say that, I know, but I honestly like Truecrypt's live performance much better.
Rubinstein, of course, set the standard for this work, even though many younger artists have produced more pilish and control.
The difference between truecrypt and many other pianists which post offensive comments here, is that truecrypt is humble person and never ever has referred to other pianist with rude or disgusting comments.
I've read lots of comments from marcelmmombek and other colleagues and trust me I know what I'm talking about.
That makes truecrypt a great performer and person and deserves great respect for that simple reason
Humility is kind of a lost art, especially in terms of music-making. There is nothing wrong with being proud of one's self, but this should never border or cross in to the domain of being rude to others.
i have heard truecrypt's recordings in this scherzo and pictures from an exchibition,its all good but its missing the spark of genius followed by a great techniqhe. plz dont compare with richter or argerich , its just silly i think. truecrypt you are a good pianist , dont get me wrong
Absolutely, Pogorelich had one of the Best rendition Chopin Scherzo no. 3, Op. 39 and was in Chopin Piano Competition 1980, I invited to hear his wonderful and terrific rendition I would humbly say that is unbeatable
Just because he had a very different view of pieces does not mean he is a 'preposterous dork'. For example, no one has the crystal clear rhythm on the Schumann.
Sorry to inform you that you are greatly mistaken... while Truecrypt's a virtuoso and can flat out play better than many touring pianists, Rubinstein's performance (of this scherzo) stands alone... in fact Argerich's is slightly above Truecrypt's in my humble opinion.
for me this interpretation of the third chopin scherzo is the best ive heard yet. Richter's performance is rather reflected by musicality than by technical virtuosity.
This is why the version seems so slow as youve heard the other interpretations before.
Other way round, if you had heard this one first, maybe the other versions would seem too fast for you.
i am a fan of Richter's performances of Chopin's scherzos, but the young Argerich's deliverance of this piece is far above and beyond any other attempt of presentation.
That isn't musical taste. She plays the piece so quickly, 40 seconds faster than Richter, Pletnev, Pogorelich, et al, that her technique is quite impressive. The bad news is that she plays far more quickly than the score's timing. The music comes out for the others. Her record-setting pace, while technically impressive, turns Chopin's Scherzo No. 3 into Argerich's Scherzo. While it's interesting (and on YT) it's just not the same musical composition any more.
Yes, I agree with you. But imagine that all compositions it the world would be without any title. (only op.xxx and nothing more) Woul you comments be changed in this case? I want to say that title of opus can decrease the sence of the opus. I think any performer has a rights to modify it.
Once upon, shostakovich composed his famous 7 simphony. There was a words for the simphony!!! (it was a song originally). But after that shostakovich decided to remoove the words because it would narrow sense of the opus.
Although it's slower still, Pletnev's recording on YT which I think is from a rehearsal for his 2 CD set "Pletnev live at Carnegie Hall" is superb. He does take a few liberties with the original but somehow he makes it work fantastically well. I own the set and it's well worth the purchase price. It was recommended to me by a concert pianist and he certainly picked a winner for me.
So good you would think it was Yuja. But Yuja had not done her scherzos yet...
marcelinaczartoryska 3 days ago
wow.To me this one is right next to Rachmaninov's in expressive power.
TheStefanNestor 3 months ago
whata mind blowing pianissimos!
BassicStorm 4 months ago
Yeesh, so tantalizing.
Jeenias 5 months ago
1:30 so goddamn magical. Absolutely beautiful.
ultracoolhomies 1 year ago 3
@ultracoolhomies yea man its so f***** genial
Classicfan94 4 months ago
@ultracoolhomies We heard the same. This very moment is a pure miracle of music. It sounds like a second piano is echoing from some nearby mountains.
scelsi1837 4 months ago
When I listen to Richter, I always see a man grabbing bunches of crystal grapes from the vine. LOL. I just love him. His music is so full of passion it uplifts me.
nicolaiiibo 1 year ago
@fourmi1060 What do you think about rachmaninov version?
loboris1995 1 year ago
Richter was HOT. His vein jutting. His band members (warts and all) stand by. It was no Steinway, just a rather ordinary GASSBURGER.
Konrad Adenauer invited us all back to his place for a Schnapps.
But not after Chopin. Not me.
andreaprodan 1 year ago
It's a good rendition of the piece, especially the D-flat major sections, but I would have preferred the octave sections played a bit quicker.
pipeorganloverNJP 1 year ago
Rcihter gave light to this composition
terrygowork 1 year ago
arguably the most powerful rendition here on YT.
though Richter is not at his most 'imposing' character here, the darkness of the minor sections (e.g. 0:45) is very brooding. he makes the interposing sections simply sparkle
mathpianist93 1 year ago
@mathpianist93 Could you give a listen my favorite: Idil Biret's recording? I have it uploaded.
AvidHobbyist 1 year ago
@AvidHobbyist thanks for uploading it! I just listened. She does many interesting things in the beginning--unexpected things I've not heard before. The coda, however... some strange hiccups here and there. I prefer her scherzo #1. Thanks again!
pyroprince78 1 year ago
Entiendo perfectamente lo que quiere transmitir Astronomo 16.
Ya puestos,que podemos decir de Maria Joao Pires.
paradoxicus 2 years ago
To see him play the last 3 minutes of that scherzo op39 on an old documentary is "not-to-be-forgotten" ..
superbemaison 2 years ago
This is my favourite scherzo.
A pity the live Carnegie Hall version from 1965 is never mentioned!!!
superbemaison 2 years ago
Si escuchando a Richter prefiero la interpretación de Argerich, entonces definitivamente la de Argerich es la mejor interpretación que pueda oírse de esta obra, y además de verdad
astronomo16 2 years ago
I agree with the part about growing up, but can I not say so much as "I don't like the way he plays the octaves"? They sounded too separated to me, one octave at a time (as opposed to Pogorelich, who makes them sound more as one line)
Robotman42 2 years ago
Of course you can say whatever you want...
On other hand one should consider what he/she says and how... Phrases like "interpretation is interesting" and "It's not bad" coming from a piano student sound ridiculous. As for "octaves", let's get back to this subject in 5-10 years. You will likely change your mind by then.
truecrypt 2 years ago
Alright, I accept your condition of "let's return to the matter in 5-10 years". Maybe you would be so kind as to explain why you find my phrases so ridiculous? No sarcasm, I am curious.
Robotman42 2 years ago
Your initial comment sounds like "tired and wise professional" is criticizing a "mediocre student".
The reality is quite opposite... That's what makes it ridiculous.
truecrypt 2 years ago
What if I simply said "I don't like the octaves"?
Robotman42 2 years ago
It would sound less ridiculous, but nevertheless...
truecrypt 2 years ago
Then it is ridiculous for me to say that Richter's interpretation is interesting? Methinks the complaint about the octaves far more likely to be ridiculous.
Robotman42 2 years ago
Dear Robotman42,
If Walter Gieseking or Arturo B. Michelangeli would say "Richter's interpretation is interesting", it would sound more-less appropriate.
When you say the same it sounds disparaging and ridiculous.
truecrypt 2 years ago 2
Ok, I think I finally understand where you're coming from
Robotman42 2 years ago
Go Gieseking. My favorite book; by Karl Leimer. The shortest way to pianistic perfection.
wildejag 2 years ago
@truecrypt right
4785689 1 year ago
@Robotman42 Richter fanatics will only be satisfied with "AWESOME" or "THE BEST". Even if he clearly ruins a piece (I don't think he ruined the scherzo btw :D).
So next time just go with the most positive thing you can think of and everyone'll think you're a lovable genius.
The coda was "THE BEST". Pogo's no-pedal approach was also very interesting. It gives a completely different meaning than Richter or Argerich's.
th3wing3dpaint3r 1 year ago
@Robotman42 who is Ivo Pogorelich? (speaking about Richter)
prunyi 1 year ago
This interpretation is interesting and I wouldn't say it's a bad one, but I don't like the way he plays the octaves.
Robotman42 2 years ago
Slightly lugubrious tempo, but what spacious thunder. This interpretation is every bit as valid as Van Cliburn's, whose I prefer. The latter plays from even further within. Richter obviously loves the material. What beautiful music.
dennisgrapes 2 years ago
I never imagined that Richter, who plays the op25 n12 etude
in his way, could play this Scherzo so truly wonderful, with
love and inspiration! And he is the only one on YouTube
whose chorale is speaking! Thank you for the post.
glantz91 2 years ago
WOOO!! Awesome coda!!! So clean. The slower tempo is interesting...it changes the color completely. I like it. thanks for the post.
neversroad 2 years ago 2
I would say the best interpretation of Scherzo op.39 is of Martha Argerich.
arminasspqr 2 years ago
Argerich is a child compared to Richter.
Liebromeistal 2 years ago
Why such an harsh statement to Argerich?
Sinfoniette 2 years ago
Hi, u know, I've heard Richter alive in this Scherzo... it was something incredible... no comparison with this! btw, I heard another Argerich"s version{ from Warsaw, 1965}- much, much better too.
rva25 2 years ago
Because Argerich is more concerned with her own technique and virtuosity than actually being faithful to the composer.
Liebromeistal 2 years ago 2
Its not nessecarily a bad thing. Besides, I don't think she is unfaithful to the score.
Sinfoniette 2 years ago 4
That is completely untrue.
Musicman180 2 years ago
Richter is very good, his technique is brilliant, but I found Argerich much more temptating as her interpretation and feeling of Chopin's spirit I prefer more.
arminasspqr 2 years ago 2
Her interpretation is actually quite bland, in my honest opinion.
AvidHobbyist 2 years ago
The most blank is Pletnev's,
then is Argerich's,
the best ones are for me Pogorelich's however
the lack of pedal and etc, and Richter is the most inspired
from all these so I like him the most. Let's hear Rachmaninov's now, and see! (:
glantz91 2 years ago
Pity this is NOT A VIDEO!
miykeey 2 years ago
This is a very good performance. The tempo is correct in the sense of these works. Some pianists play it TOO FAST!
Great performance!
miykeey 2 years ago
A small change in tempo makes such an insane difference in the effect of the music....
hellomate639 2 years ago
Immaculate! Flawless!
I like the deliberate tempo of the first theme (mostly because I could play it at that speed, I suppose), but despite the overall excellence and total lack of anything mannered, quirky, incompetent or offensive, the impact here is just a little dull.
Heresy to say that, I know, but I honestly like Truecrypt's live performance much better.
Rubinstein, of course, set the standard for this work, even though many younger artists have produced more pilish and control.
Pischnaholic 2 years ago
What a dynamic and powerful performance! And yet, somehow reserved. Makes you want to go back and listen to it again.
Tdgonline 2 years ago
You know something guys?
The difference between truecrypt and many other pianists which post offensive comments here, is that truecrypt is humble person and never ever has referred to other pianist with rude or disgusting comments.
I've read lots of comments from marcelmmombek and other colleagues and trust me I know what I'm talking about.
That makes truecrypt a great performer and person and deserves great respect for that simple reason
alexggable 2 years ago
Totally agreed.
Humility is kind of a lost art, especially in terms of music-making. There is nothing wrong with being proud of one's self, but this should never border or cross in to the domain of being rude to others.
BTW, I like this performance.
aewanko300 2 years ago
That's incredible, that's a dream...
framaulo 2 years ago
i have heard truecrypt's recordings in this scherzo and pictures from an exchibition,its all good but its missing the spark of genius followed by a great techniqhe. plz dont compare with richter or argerich , its just silly i think. truecrypt you are a good pianist , dont get me wrong
stefthe80 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I do not like performance by Richter...
AnnMarry19 3 years ago
The best performanance I think:
1)Argerich
2)Truecrypt
3)Pogorelich
AnnMarry19 3 years ago
Pogorelich ?????????
Absolutely not!
MemyH567 3 years ago
Now I think that the best performance this scherzo -> Pogorelich (Chopin Piano competition)
AnnMarry19 3 years ago
Absolutely, Pogorelich had one of the Best rendition Chopin Scherzo no. 3, Op. 39 and was in Chopin Piano Competition 1980, I invited to hear his wonderful and terrific rendition I would humbly say that is unbeatable
Brunildilla 2 years ago
I hear you. Pogorelich should be jailed, he's a preposterous dork.
minastronasse 2 years ago
Just because he had a very different view of pieces does not mean he is a 'preposterous dork'. For example, no one has the crystal clear rhythm on the Schumann.
Sinfoniette 2 years ago 7
I prefer Richter.
I find his left hand much more expressive.
Richter deserves more than one listening.
I don't like to hear the pianist in this piece and in general in Chopin.I want to hear only the music.
With Pogorelich, I hear the pianist trying to"do" something special ( with talent)
metphmet 2 years ago
Truecrypt, agerich....No one captures the true spirit of the scherzo like he does, except maybe horowitz in scherzo no. 2
ninadeering 3 years ago
I said it before, I'll say it again.
Truecrypt's is the best.
Better than Richter's.
Better than Argerich's.
PERIOD!!
snaaptaker 3 years ago
If you truly believe so, so be it. But your subjective preference doesn't make one artist "better" than another. Period.
johnnydavis23 3 years ago 3
Sorry to inform you that you are greatly mistaken... while Truecrypt's a virtuoso and can flat out play better than many touring pianists, Rubinstein's performance (of this scherzo) stands alone... in fact Argerich's is slightly above Truecrypt's in my humble opinion.
dunamis22 3 years ago
for me this interpretation of the third chopin scherzo is the best ive heard yet. Richter's performance is rather reflected by musicality than by technical virtuosity.
This is why the version seems so slow as youve heard the other interpretations before.
Other way round, if you had heard this one first, maybe the other versions would seem too fast for you.
nightcr4wl3r91 3 years ago 3
i am a fan of Richter's performances of Chopin's scherzos, but the young Argerich's deliverance of this piece is far above and beyond any other attempt of presentation.
ibclappin 3 years ago
And you haven't listened to truecrypt's yet? Shame on you... :( I highly recommend it.
RabidCh 3 years ago
That isn't musical taste. She plays the piece so quickly, 40 seconds faster than Richter, Pletnev, Pogorelich, et al, that her technique is quite impressive. The bad news is that she plays far more quickly than the score's timing. The music comes out for the others. Her record-setting pace, while technically impressive, turns Chopin's Scherzo No. 3 into Argerich's Scherzo. While it's interesting (and on YT) it's just not the same musical composition any more.
gerryrains 3 years ago
Yes, I agree with you. But imagine that all compositions it the world would be without any title. (only op.xxx and nothing more) Woul you comments be changed in this case? I want to say that title of opus can decrease the sence of the opus. I think any performer has a rights to modify it.
timgor 3 years ago
yeah........right, maybe it is just a little different from the type i am used to
hackerchris123456 3 years ago
Maybe master's understanding of music and thoughts can't be understood by ordinary people like me..........
i think the beginning is unacceptablly slow..
too elegant, too rhetorical for scherzos
hackerchris123456 3 years ago
Once upon, shostakovich composed his famous 7 simphony. There was a words for the simphony!!! (it was a song originally). But after that shostakovich decided to remoove the words because it would narrow sense of the opus.
timgor 3 years ago
He is one of my favorite pianists.
donghyun45 3 years ago 3
i think this is the best recording of this
volodya2 3 years ago
bravo
aewanko300 3 years ago
It's beautiful, no "joke".
Thank you dear Truecrypt for sharing these treasures to us.
nietzschemasterclass 3 years ago
That's a very introspective and 'spiritual' performance.
Richter is amazing, always.
interesting to compare with Argerich's passionate and fiery rendition, both are fantastic.
pedroprokofiev 3 years ago 3
I can't decide which one I like better. Argerich is great, too.
But you are right, Richter is more 'spiritual' (I like that term.
FMatt099 3 years ago
I think they are different, not opposite, but complementary.
Listen to one or other depends on my humor :)
pedroprokofiev 3 years ago
Although it's slower still, Pletnev's recording on YT which I think is from a rehearsal for his 2 CD set "Pletnev live at Carnegie Hall" is superb. He does take a few liberties with the original but somehow he makes it work fantastically well. I own the set and it's well worth the purchase price. It was recommended to me by a concert pianist and he certainly picked a winner for me.
gerryrains 3 years ago
but the ending is cool :)
TopGearTopGear 4 years ago
Other than The tuning is frightful for this piece...or that I can't find any "Scherzo" in it...it's fine...really fine...I think...
smithsherman 4 years ago