I know, the Russian aircraft seats are better for eject ! I watched some a videos of the crash of American Aircrafts but they had failed eject ! for example this is video that F4 crash and eject is failed ...
@aratidwell its always that "i can fix the problem" instinct that kicks in. then the plane inverted, then he had to turn it back straight and level before ejecting. such a tragedy
@TalTxD he survived the black thing u saw fly in was his ejector chair wen they eject their chair comes out and the pilot flys 100 too 200 ft above the plane so he survives
@MrHiot12 Although the pilot managed to eject, he ended up in the middle of the fire ball by the time his chute deployed and did not survive. Unfortunate mishap due to compressor stalls in both engines caused by known design flaw of disrupted airflow into the engine during hard maneuvering in the airfield break. If he'd been several thousand feet higher he could have cleared the stall and gained airspeed back, but at pattern altitude and low airspeed the jet departed controlled flight.
@FrontPlayer01 As far as I know, there was a proposed design for a single seat F4, the F-4E(F) but none were built. However, you don't necessarily need a navigator. When they fly the F4's to be converted to drones, they usually fly solo; at least that I've seen. I'd imagine if you were just going to be doing VFR maneuvers in restricted airspace(airshow's airspace usually goes restricted anywhere from 15,000 to 25,000 ft), all you'd need is a pilot.
In addition, aircraft lose engine power all the time; that's why pilots train for it. Just because your plane loses power, doesn't mean you get to eject. It's your responsibility to do everything you possibly can, to both, salvage the plane and point it in a safe direction to protect people on the ground. Maybe you should stick to topics you know more about...go grab a coloring book.
And yes I have seen those Russian ejection chairs, they are nuts. How people eject and not snap th
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Joepapp, you gotta think about it like this. Either attempt an ejection at low altitude or crash with the plane and, for sure, die. Ya it wasn't a smart choice but it was the best option. The plane didn't just lose it's engines, it lost all control surfaces as well. Once the pilot realized he couldn't control the plane, he punched out, but it was too late. It happened in just a couple seconds.
Maybe if they were equipped with russian ejector seats they could have survived. There are lots of video that show very low crash with pilots walking away
First off, no disrespect to the aviators who are now dead. Do you think, after both engines flame-out and they realize that the survivability of an ejection at that altitude is probably not great, the pilots think, "F&ck, I can't believe I'm going to die performing like a flying circus monkey for these crackers?" Tell me that didn't pass through at least one of their minds in the split second after ejection, when it became apparent there would be no chute deployment...
@joepapp01 you're a fucking idiot. They died doing something they loved, so no true aviator would ever think that. You're a fucking clown, i hope you kill yourself.
How could they say this was Human error? It looked like both engines just went "poof" to me! Did one of them try to eject or was that just the canopy blowing off & he didn't have time?
I'm from Ontario, Canada. I'm going to see the Dayton, OH air show on July 17-18 2010, and I can't fucking wait! However, I really hope something like this doesn't occur, that would be terrible to see happen. Did that pilot survive? Doesn't look like it... eeeeesh.
Both pilots were killed. After the investigation they said human error was the cause. The veteran pilot who had over 3500 hours in the sky, but only 75 in an F-4.
@Arctic200 That's what I'm saying. "They" always put it on pilot saying it is a "human error". No one takes the blame and agencies put everything on pilots.
@kozeel I know right? you would at least think some people would be smart enoughto say it what the machines fault once inawhile. But kniw because they dont like to think the machine is not flawless.
:20 and :21 seconds. there are 2 flashes from ejection seats both of them got out of the plane, WAY TO LOW for the chute to deploy!! no chance for them to survive. it would take around 400 feet of altitude or so for a chute to FULLY DEPLOY. I hate to see this happen, but ALL pilots know that this COULD happen.
THE F4 WAS EASILY THE BEST MILITARY JET OF ITS TIME..AND ONE OF THE BEST EVER.. NEVER MIND THE MOVIES OR THE AMERICANS...ASK THE GERMAN AIR FORCE AND OTHERS WHO USED THIS PLANE....AND THAT FROM ME AND A VERY ANTI AMERICAN SCOTTISH MAN WITH A MILITARY BACKGROUND NOT ME ..U ..NOR ANY OTHER WE LIKELY WILL KNOW CAN MATCH.....RE N VAN Wendy...
U.S. Navy officials identified the pilot as Navy Cmdr. Michael Norman 39. The plane's radar intercept officer was identified as Marine Corps Capt. Andrew Muhs, 31. Both were stationed at Point Mugu. google..amazing eh
You have a point - but so are Spitfires, Lancasters, and as for Tiger Moths! Accidents happen, he probably stayed with it to save ground casualties - RIP, sir..........
you're right it went right down , but after that turn i guess about any jet would have lost all its energy , but then again the mirage and execute the fall leaf maneuver with one wing and no thrust .
@3nasacova Actually the Starfighter is a poor example as it has very light weight, and an excellent thrust to weight ratio. The small wings allow it to carry out its mission as an air superiority fighter by rolling with ease in dog fights. They pay for the smaller wings with a short range, but the loss of weight allows them to go vertical with ease where lift is no longer a factor.
"20 April - During the Point Mugu air show (Point Mugu, California), the pilot and radar intercept officer are killed when their United States Navy McDonell-Douglas QF-4S+ Phantom II, BuNo 155749, stalls and crashes after pulling away from a diamond formation. Both eject but chutes do not have time to deploy."
Yes he did..at that height the chute wouldn't have had time to deploy and if so he would have landed in the flaming jet fuel...so to answer yes he did..
It happens so fast and these pilots are trained to try and save the aircraft and then the people. . . and sadly lastly themselves. Not enough time to punch out.
something not right there...the F-4 has two engines and it's highly unlikely both would flame-out at the same time........also the pilot waited too long before ejecting...that's why he's now dead
both crew members eh? too bad there was only a pilot...the air force doesn't fly f-4s anymore except for two that are used with legacy flights and QF-4s which only have a pilot seat. And a flame out is not pilot error it just happens sometimes...unfortunately it happened at very low altitude and there wasn't time to recover.
"Pilot error caused the fiery crash of a Phantom jet that killed both crew members during Point Mugu's air show last year, a Navy investigation has found. "
After nine months of painstaking examination of charred wreckage and videos taken by spectators, Navy investigators have ruled out mechanical failure, birds caught in the engine, and faulty maintenance as causes of the crash that killed the pilot, Navy Cmdr. Michael Norman, and radar intercept officer Marine Corps Capt. Andrew Muhs.
if you notice he maneuvered the jet so that when he ejected, the force of the ejection would shoot him to the side of the actual crash site.... i think that if this guy died it was because of impact at extreme speeds.....not because he was hurled into a fiery inferno.
many crashes at low altitude look like the pilots chute doesnt open but quite often it does and it slows the forwards speed and often lifts the pilot a few feet up as it swings like a pendulum. this means most of the time they do survive this. there is a great video for the test of the f14 i think where the pilot does the same thing and goes into the flame but survise due to this pendulum motion and the blast from the explosion give him a few feet as well.
Your a fucking idiot. He rolled the plane to the side so he could eject away from the flam, which he did. His parachute just didnt have enough time to open. He died on impact with the ground, not burning. And no, if any pilot was close enough to the planes explosion to be "given a few feet", they would be killed. Dont try to talk like you know what you're saying, because you obviously don't. I suggest you have your mom take you to get tested for down syndrome.
Its funny, I spent time in England last year and I saw a bunch of Fat British kids. Not sure if it was a Fat British Kid Event Weekend or what but after reading so many Fat American comments on Youtube, I thought for sure I wouldnt see Fat people in England but holy shit was I wrong. Are you fat?
There was no RIO, it was a QF-4, a drone, they remove the rear seat to install the guidance and control systems for the ground operator when its needed.
Yes I agree that the Martin baker 0/0 seat would have saved his life except for the fact that he ejected in a 90 degree bank at less then 200' agl. I base these findings on the detailed study that you and I did in the summer and fall of 2007.
If you follow the ejected seat at 0:20, and slowly follow it, it flys into the explosion at top speeds 100 times faster than falling speed. I'm pretty sure he's dust.
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okay you all who in your little head are experts in military planes and accidents go fuck yourself and get over it. they died, how? watch the video, period.
i think the pilot could have steered the jet away from spectators and ejected safely, its weird how he waited so long to eject... and for the dick who said pilot error, u can easily see the engines flameout, couldve been a bird
The pilot died as well as his co-pilot. They most likely stayed with the plane to steer it away from the 25,000 people who were attending the air show. There was enough time to eject after the engine flamed out, but they didn't.
wrong. they couldn't punch out because A) they were never level in the x-axisof flight, and B) they were no where near a safe altitude. but i supposed steering the craft away from the crowd had a little to do with it.
not pilot error plz,in this altitude,even russian ejection seat which is reputed as the best in the world,will have difficulty,because the plane is flying fast and horizontal and a bit close to the ground.
this is really bad. thank heavens it wasn't over the spectators. could you imagine? blimey.......either way, soooooo sad. r.i.p. to the poor aviators.
I was at that airshow. there were two pilots they both dies one ejected and landed in the explosion, this giant helicopter right next to us took off and tried to save them too. crazy day
R.I.P
jithization 2 months ago
Well that's a fail! LOL :D
eliaswer1 3 months ago
Russian aircrafts are better for eject !
BloodThirsty1986 3 months ago
@BloodThirsty1986 they need to be!! being that 80% of people go to international airshows expecting to see a russian aircraft hit the dirt
iamidiotic 3 months ago
@iamidiotic
I know, the Russian aircraft seats are better for eject ! I watched some a videos of the crash of American Aircrafts but they had failed eject ! for example this is video that F4 crash and eject is failed ...
BloodThirsty1986 3 months ago
Can you say old upload.
Ryan92Ex 4 months ago
I thought I had to press f4 D:
devisZERO 5 months ago
he waited way too long
aratidwell 5 months ago
@aratidwell As soon as they cut he should have punched out.
teckNine2010 5 months ago
@aratidwell its always that "i can fix the problem" instinct that kicks in. then the plane inverted, then he had to turn it back straight and level before ejecting. such a tragedy
raph4485 5 months ago
Sad! He ejected to late!
EragonLea 6 months ago
5 dead
dolenzia78 6 months ago
didn't u see the pilot bail out with no para shoot and land in the explosion and die ?
Rickey85 6 months ago
what happened to the pilots?
devilazpl 6 months ago
Wish he'd had let it go a second sooner.
2020skip 6 months ago
"HOLY -..."
mustbeburtreynolds 7 months ago
I can see the pilot ejecting , did he survive?
TalTxD 9 months ago
@TalTxD
Sadly no!
jockey83 9 months ago
@TalTxD dunno man, looks like he ejects straight into the explosion
ryanlfc87 8 months ago
@TalTxD he survived the black thing u saw fly in was his ejector chair wen they eject their chair comes out and the pilot flys 100 too 200 ft above the plane so he survives
MrHiot12 7 months ago
@MrHiot12
i know what is ejecting , i'm asking because it seems like he landed into the fire..
and by the way.. they are not always survivng.. they can die or break bones only cbecause the high speed they flew in before they ejected.
TalTxD 7 months ago
@MrHiot12 Although the pilot managed to eject, he ended up in the middle of the fire ball by the time his chute deployed and did not survive. Unfortunate mishap due to compressor stalls in both engines caused by known design flaw of disrupted airflow into the engine during hard maneuvering in the airfield break. If he'd been several thousand feet higher he could have cleared the stall and gained airspeed back, but at pattern altitude and low airspeed the jet departed controlled flight.
CorpsPlaneFlyer 7 months ago
@TalTxD looks like he went straight into the fireball :/ poor guy
abhiginimav 6 months ago
shot down by colonel gadaffi
ETRobot 10 months ago
@FrontPlayer01 As far as I know, there was a proposed design for a single seat F4, the F-4E(F) but none were built. However, you don't necessarily need a navigator. When they fly the F4's to be converted to drones, they usually fly solo; at least that I've seen. I'd imagine if you were just going to be doing VFR maneuvers in restricted airspace(airshow's airspace usually goes restricted anywhere from 15,000 to 25,000 ft), all you'd need is a pilot.
ValhallaOrBust85 11 months ago
@joepapp01
In addition, aircraft lose engine power all the time; that's why pilots train for it. Just because your plane loses power, doesn't mean you get to eject. It's your responsibility to do everything you possibly can, to both, salvage the plane and point it in a safe direction to protect people on the ground. Maybe you should stick to topics you know more about...go grab a coloring book.
And yes I have seen those Russian ejection chairs, they are nuts. How people eject and not snap th
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jeffkrosnoff 1 year ago
I saw only one parachute. Is it possible that this was single-seater F-4 ?
FrontPlayer01 1 year ago
Joepapp, you gotta think about it like this. Either attempt an ejection at low altitude or crash with the plane and, for sure, die. Ya it wasn't a smart choice but it was the best option. The plane didn't just lose it's engines, it lost all control surfaces as well. Once the pilot realized he couldn't control the plane, he punched out, but it was too late. It happened in just a couple seconds.
ValhallaOrBust85 1 year ago 2
@ValhallaOrBust85
Maybe if they were equipped with russian ejector seats they could have survived. There are lots of video that show very low crash with pilots walking away
goldorak1962 1 year ago
@goldorak1962 The latest Zero-Zero seats would perhaps have saved them. I assume that the F4 isn't retro-fitted with them?
Factnotfictionpeople 11 months ago
wow I thought the pilots chute would have deployed..
grooveclubhouse 1 year ago
i guess its a bird strike..
kisstell09 1 year ago
First off, no disrespect to the aviators who are now dead. Do you think, after both engines flame-out and they realize that the survivability of an ejection at that altitude is probably not great, the pilots think, "F&ck, I can't believe I'm going to die performing like a flying circus monkey for these crackers?" Tell me that didn't pass through at least one of their minds in the split second after ejection, when it became apparent there would be no chute deployment...
joepapp01 1 year ago
@joepapp01 you're a fucking idiot. They died doing something they loved, so no true aviator would ever think that. You're a fucking clown, i hope you kill yourself.
gypsykingg 11 months ago 4
looks like he almost died in the flames
WhitetailesRule 1 year ago
F-4 s are so old i guess the engines died of "old age"
88mroux 1 year ago
Those "flame outs" are common when the turbine suck up a bird.
EstebanCRC 1 year ago 3
How could they say this was Human error? It looked like both engines just went "poof" to me! Did one of them try to eject or was that just the canopy blowing off & he didn't have time?
lst1195 1 year ago
oh ****
devilsawsomes 1 year ago
I saw him eject but it looked like the shoot never opened
nolangreen 1 year ago
drop into flames, sad that it was veteran... like Paton he was died in car accident after IIWW
WielkiWarchlak 1 year ago
I'm from Ontario, Canada. I'm going to see the Dayton, OH air show on July 17-18 2010, and I can't fucking wait! However, I really hope something like this doesn't occur, that would be terrible to see happen. Did that pilot survive? Doesn't look like it... eeeeesh.
dbz4lifemm 1 year ago
@dbz4lifemm
Both pilots were killed. After the investigation they said human error was the cause. The veteran pilot who had over 3500 hours in the sky, but only 75 in an F-4.
OlderG0ds 1 year ago
@OlderG0ds It is always a "human error" so that they can save their own ass!
kozeel 1 year ago
@kozeel Human error? nothing much you can do when you have a flame out...
Arctic200 1 year ago
@Arctic200 That's what I'm saying. "They" always put it on pilot saying it is a "human error". No one takes the blame and agencies put everything on pilots.
kozeel 1 year ago
@kozeel I know right? you would at least think some people would be smart enoughto say it what the machines fault once inawhile. But kniw because they dont like to think the machine is not flawless.
Arctic200 1 year ago
i was at this airshow, front row. awful thing.
zerosk8rdude77 1 year ago
:20 and :21 seconds. there are 2 flashes from ejection seats both of them got out of the plane, WAY TO LOW for the chute to deploy!! no chance for them to survive. it would take around 400 feet of altitude or so for a chute to FULLY DEPLOY. I hate to see this happen, but ALL pilots know that this COULD happen.
globemaster68 1 year ago
i was there ! two pilots one ejected but ejected right into the ball of flames
booobed 1 year ago
THE F4 WAS EASILY THE BEST MILITARY JET OF ITS TIME..AND ONE OF THE BEST EVER.. NEVER MIND THE MOVIES OR THE AMERICANS...ASK THE GERMAN AIR FORCE AND OTHERS WHO USED THIS PLANE....AND THAT FROM ME AND A VERY ANTI AMERICAN SCOTTISH MAN WITH A MILITARY BACKGROUND NOT ME ..U ..NOR ANY OTHER WE LIKELY WILL KNOW CAN MATCH.....RE N VAN Wendy...
shadoww1000 1 year ago 2
RIP
Hardmetal1993 1 year ago
Ah shit... That guy didn't bail out. :(
17589 1 year ago
@17589 yes he did :p
blubby123456789 1 year ago
@blubby123456789 No no, I mean watch. I can't delete my comments anymore, but look. He ejected, but he didn't land safely... probably died on impact.
17589 1 year ago
Haha the guy was about to say "holy fuck" at the ending
ZSG16 1 year ago
I do not trust that the pilot could survive, there speed was decent
RA9ODE 2 years ago
ok- according to the comments posted below: 1 pilot died, both pilots died, 1 pilot died -rear radar dude ejected and survived....
plane crashed because: bird strike, stall, flame out, unknown....
does anybody know what actually happened?
D3cyTH3r 2 years ago
U.S. Navy officials identified the pilot as Navy Cmdr. Michael Norman 39. The plane's radar intercept officer was identified as Marine Corps Capt. Andrew Muhs, 31. Both were stationed at Point Mugu. google..amazing eh
tjmac7 2 years ago
Vidéo étirée, dans quel but ?
clo12clo 2 years ago
Look at how he turned hard before leveling out to eject. He did that on purpose to avoid something below him. Heroic. RIP.
applianceemt 2 years ago
may to avoid the power plant or highway
MegaLibra1979 2 years ago
@applianceemt maybe to avoid the power plant
demendet 1 year ago
he bailed late cuz he didn't want to crash into a crowd of people
F22raptor272 2 years ago
Oh bugger. R.I.P. I hope that never happens to me.
matoy77 2 years ago
Should have punched out sooner.
Bullzeye95 2 years ago
Pause it at 0:20. He bailed out. But that may have been too low to the ground for the parachute to deploy. Tragic way to end a ceremonial flight.
USAFThunderBirdsFtw 2 years ago
killed by a fucking bird, just like that...
lemob182 2 years ago
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f-4 phantoms are old..never should have flown it.
cowboyzsuk81 2 years ago
You have a point - but so are Spitfires, Lancasters, and as for Tiger Moths! Accidents happen, he probably stayed with it to save ground casualties - RIP, sir..........
Factnotfictionpeople 2 years ago
It causes me to recall a line from a movie I saw in which an Air Force instructor introduces a plane to his student pilots:
"Gentlemen, this is the F4 Phantom, America's testament to the theory that, given a big enough engine, you can make a brick fly."
They're not good gliders...
NVanWendy 2 years ago 58
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policeman1313 2 years ago
Where is that line from? i have heard it before and its driving me nuts
canicallutownsie 2 years ago
you're right it went right down , but after that turn i guess about any jet would have lost all its energy , but then again the mirage and execute the fall leaf maneuver with one wing and no thrust .
ahmednabil 2 years ago
@NVanWendy Wow. Weird comment!
thisissparta789789 1 year ago
@NVanWendy The narrator in this video is a complete dumbass, those are F14`s not F18`s
THR33SIXX3MPYR 10 months ago
@THR33SIXX3MPYR
you are the dumbass.He said 6 planes,2 F18,2 F14 and 2 F4.On the video the 2 F18 weren't in the cam view that's all kid.
s3fredo 10 months ago
@s3fredo Then why would he mention it? Go hate somewhere else! (and get a half-decent name!) =D
THR33SIXX3MPYR 10 months ago
@THR33SIXX3MPYR
Just for you,and your stupid comment.He got you!
s3fredo 10 months ago
@s3fredo ok.......? COOL! THAT MEANS I HAVE A TIME MACHINE LIKE AUSTIN POWERS!
THR33SIXX3MPYR 9 months ago
@NVanWendy Absoulutely correct. I for one have always loved this aircraft, but it is indeed a flying gas barrel.
When the F15 was introduced, i could just hear the pilots who had flown the F4 in nam saying, "GOD i wish i had this back in 68"
barmtrail 9 months ago
@NVanWendy The F104 Starfighter is an even better testament to the flying brick theory. They barely even bothered to put wings on that sucker.
3nasacova 6 months ago 5
@3nasacova Actually the Starfighter is a poor example as it has very light weight, and an excellent thrust to weight ratio. The small wings allow it to carry out its mission as an air superiority fighter by rolling with ease in dog fights. They pay for the smaller wings with a short range, but the loss of weight allows them to go vertical with ease where lift is no longer a factor.
Zyworski 5 months ago
My mom's friend became a widow after that.
I was there watching in person when I was 8.
dogboy0912 2 years ago 2
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dogboy0912 2 years ago
defo a bird strike f4 phantoms and f-14tomcats are know out of sevice sadly the f-14 was amazingly fun they drift like crazy!!!
Coreytherocker 2 years ago
god speed
dcsilva10 2 years ago
A quick wiki search:
"20 April - During the Point Mugu air show (Point Mugu, California), the pilot and radar intercept officer are killed when their United States Navy McDonell-Douglas QF-4S+ Phantom II, BuNo 155749, stalls and crashes after pulling away from a diamond formation. Both eject but chutes do not have time to deploy."
JimGodx 2 years ago 4
It looks like the parachute didn't deployed and he was falling very fast.
Did he die? (seriously)
GGGunitNextLevel 2 years ago 2
Both crew dead. Not funny at all.
fanofrhymeswithstar 2 years ago 6
Yes he did..at that height the chute wouldn't have had time to deploy and if so he would have landed in the flaming jet fuel...so to answer yes he did..
Jengodarkly 2 years ago
he should have ejected sooner. does anyone know if he survived. I saw him eject but no chute.
noahdh 2 years ago
"Holy crapling"
brup123 2 years ago
i think mr squirtrocks123 needs some councilling.
pgmartini1 2 years ago
It happens so fast and these pilots are trained to try and save the aircraft and then the people. . . and sadly lastly themselves. Not enough time to punch out.
bbgfe1 2 years ago
yeah his para chude didnt opne and he went straight into the explosino
georgejelfs67 2 years ago
something not right there...the F-4 has two engines and it's highly unlikely both would flame-out at the same time........also the pilot waited too long before ejecting...that's why he's now dead
RifledBarrel 2 years ago
that's what happens when a bird flies into a jet engine
foxtraner 2 years ago
y salio ileso... :o
hahahahah
DeerGolem 2 years ago
oh crap he falls straight into the explosion oh i dident notice that. rip Usaf
policekid08 2 years ago
good thing he survived but there goes a multi million dollar jet
policekid08 2 years ago
lol watch again, he didn't survive... you can clearly see that the parachute didn't open cause it had not enough time to
Quentin77170 2 years ago
It was pilot error, and sadly, both crew members died because their 'chutes didnt open in time.
beyondthevast 2 years ago
both crew members eh? too bad there was only a pilot...the air force doesn't fly f-4s anymore except for two that are used with legacy flights and QF-4s which only have a pilot seat. And a flame out is not pilot error it just happens sometimes...unfortunately it happened at very low altitude and there wasn't time to recover.
boobahboo 2 years ago
"Pilot error caused the fiery crash of a Phantom jet that killed both crew members during Point Mugu's air show last year, a Navy investigation has found. "
After nine months of painstaking examination of charred wreckage and videos taken by spectators, Navy investigators have ruled out mechanical failure, birds caught in the engine, and faulty maintenance as causes of the crash that killed the pilot, Navy Cmdr. Michael Norman, and radar intercept officer Marine Corps Capt. Andrew Muhs.
beyondthevast 2 years ago
if you notice he maneuvered the jet so that when he ejected, the force of the ejection would shoot him to the side of the actual crash site.... i think that if this guy died it was because of impact at extreme speeds.....not because he was hurled into a fiery inferno.
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josephayal 2 years ago
many crashes at low altitude look like the pilots chute doesnt open but quite often it does and it slows the forwards speed and often lifts the pilot a few feet up as it swings like a pendulum. this means most of the time they do survive this. there is a great video for the test of the f14 i think where the pilot does the same thing and goes into the flame but survise due to this pendulum motion and the blast from the explosion give him a few feet as well.
squirtrocks123 2 years ago
Your a fucking idiot. He rolled the plane to the side so he could eject away from the flam, which he did. His parachute just didnt have enough time to open. He died on impact with the ground, not burning. And no, if any pilot was close enough to the planes explosion to be "given a few feet", they would be killed. Dont try to talk like you know what you're saying, because you obviously don't. I suggest you have your mom take you to get tested for down syndrome.
JustinR19 2 years ago
wow... what do you do for a living?
drumz86 2 years ago
Im a Physicians Assistant.
JustinR19 2 years ago
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squirtrocks123 2 years ago
haha. "I go to Cambridge". what a twat you are if you think that means anything.
davidorient 2 years ago 27
@davidorient
Yup. Most ivy-league graduates/students think they're hot shit, because of a name of a school. Too bad that name doesn't teach them to be smart.
thechoosendude 1 year ago
what a wanker.
semtex84 2 years ago 2
Its funny, I spent time in England last year and I saw a bunch of Fat British kids. Not sure if it was a Fat British Kid Event Weekend or what but after reading so many Fat American comments on Youtube, I thought for sure I wouldnt see Fat people in England but holy shit was I wrong. Are you fat?
KarsiaDave 2 years ago 3
Calm down 'Mr. My parents buy me all the lolly pops I want.' this is the internets, we won't have your trolling here.
krayzgerman 2 years ago 3
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GGGunitNextLevel 2 years ago
it was to low the chute couldnt open and it looks like he went right into the flames :( sad
guardianzx 2 years ago
wow, poor guy flew into flame..
weiss4545 2 years ago 2
did he died?
DidHeDied 2 years ago
Provobly yes, just look at altitude, it was to low, parachute couldnt help...
MaslAlek 2 years ago
RIO eject, survived injured. The PILOT dies in the crash.
nowmyway 2 years ago
Both crew members died. :(
beyondthevast 2 years ago
There was no RIO, it was a QF-4, a drone, they remove the rear seat to install the guidance and control systems for the ground operator when its needed.
buzmil 2 years ago
Both pilots were killed; the ejection was too low.
BA31Driver 2 years ago
Is the guy all right
1bearcatf8f 2 years ago
At 0:19 he did eject but i see no shutes
varnlestoff 2 years ago
Oh My God.
I saw him eject,but it looked like the impact forced him into the flames.
I hope the guy's allright.
:(
themayor787 2 years ago 2
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LOL!!
ImYouFromTheFuture 2 years ago
If the plane had Martin baker 0/0 seats he should have survived taken into account that angle wasen't to fucked up. Anyway hope he/they made it.
juuls26 2 years ago
Yes I agree that the Martin baker 0/0 seat would have saved his life except for the fact that he ejected in a 90 degree bank at less then 200' agl. I base these findings on the detailed study that you and I did in the summer and fall of 2007.
jpwils0 2 years ago
@jpwils0 The absence of a zero-zero ejection seat was PROBABLY a reason why the F-4 was retired from combat in the first place.
thisissparta789789 1 year ago
@thisissparta789789 Excellent point... Its good that there are experts on the subject like you and I to help explain these technical issues.
jpwils0 1 year ago
@thisissparta789789 thank God my T-6 does.
zerosk8rdude77 1 year ago
Shayboy ur a complete retard that wasnt you and stop being such a loser
snipe123snipe 2 years ago
i know, that would really suck.
surviving a crash, but not the ejection.
Familyguy098 2 years ago
wait so, it looked like the piklot ejected into the explosion ?!
does anyone know if he made it out ok ?
4getmileyilovejb 2 years ago
I saw it on TV, he was okay. Crash was due to a faulty engine or something like that.
xelordo 2 years ago
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Ya, That was me.
Singed the hair off my ass, but other than that, im good.
shayboy11 2 years ago
If you follow the ejected seat at 0:20, and slowly follow it, it flys into the explosion at top speeds 100 times faster than falling speed. I'm pretty sure he's dust.
varnlestoff 2 years ago
oh burn odessaboy! from mmbbz who called u a dick.........what made the engines flame!? ToT
venicethemenace1 2 years ago
Pilot error.
odessaboy 3 years ago
its creepy seeing the RIO jus fling through the air and into the fireball.
R.I.P.
Familyguy098 3 years ago
he got out
CSIS25 2 years ago
really?
i guess i didnt see him leave the seat.
Familyguy098 2 years ago
0:20 u can see him in the air, but if he is to close to the ground i'm not sure
CSIS25 2 years ago
oh, well i was wondering cuz i thought i remembered hearing that even though he ejected, the seat failed to seperate from the pilot.
Familyguy098 2 years ago
ohh really i would not dough it, that happens sadly :(
CSIS25 2 years ago
fail
Humanimalist 3 years ago
Compressors stalled.
graniteminer 3 years ago 2
WAS THE BIRD OK??
kennzo65 3 years ago 4
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okay you all who in your little head are experts in military planes and accidents go fuck yourself and get over it. they died, how? watch the video, period.
teddy12012Y 3 years ago
i think the pilot could have steered the jet away from spectators and ejected safely, its weird how he waited so long to eject... and for the dick who said pilot error, u can easily see the engines flameout, couldve been a bird
mmbbz 3 years ago 2
The pilot died as well as his co-pilot. They most likely stayed with the plane to steer it away from the 25,000 people who were attending the air show. There was enough time to eject after the engine flamed out, but they didn't.
Wizzardgirl 3 years ago
wrong. they couldn't punch out because A) they were never level in the x-axisof flight, and B) they were no where near a safe altitude. but i supposed steering the craft away from the crowd had a little to do with it.
RaceSix 3 years ago 5
he did at :20
FORZION 3 years ago
nice vid
crazymen2007 3 years ago
Nice vid? Probably pilot died. Fuckin asshole...
szlachetek 3 years ago 4
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That's life, kid
crazymen2007 3 years ago
I think if the News broadcasted it then hes got a right to.
jacob1029 3 years ago
he's hardly an asshole
rich17279 3 years ago
not pilot error plz,in this altitude,even russian ejection seat which is reputed as the best in the world,will have difficulty,because the plane is flying fast and horizontal and a bit close to the ground.
MUKUBWA01 3 years ago
TOO BAD
ji3200 3 years ago
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pilot error.
odessaboy 3 years ago
holy shit
Barahuna 3 years ago
this is really bad. thank heavens it wasn't over the spectators. could you imagine? blimey.......either way, soooooo sad. r.i.p. to the poor aviators.
tubbymarshall 3 years ago 2
Looks like they waited at the last moment to eject , to make sure the plane doesn't crash into spectators. RIP pilots !!
RudeRaptor 3 years ago 4
I was at that airshow. there were two pilots they both dies one ejected and landed in the explosion, this giant helicopter right next to us took off and tried to save them too. crazy day
355spyder 3 years ago
i wasn't there, but i saw it on the news. did you see the helicopter crash at the Langley airshow this year?
blackeagle989444 3 years ago