The Idiot Cycle - Bonus clip "GM Golden Rice"

[keithfaecorstorphine]

Anyone interested in cancer treatment should look into the work of Dr. Tullio Simoncini

[JPSFilmsParis]

@ChrisJBrady MacMillan Cancer Support probably does not want to scare its corporate sponsors like RBS (which would have investments in cancer causing industries). Unfortunately many big non profit organizations fighting cancer don't see the contradictions in where money that supports them is coming from.

[Ceckis]

@tiatdivad I'm awake, not just another brainwashed person that repeats things with out understanding the difference between the problem of patents y global markets and the need to improve crops as more land is deteriorated and more changes in our climate keep risking crops. Do you really understand how they achieved the golden rice versus a corn bt? My guess is NO.

[JPSFilmsParis]

@Ceckis Plant breeding and industrial methods of genetic modification are different techniques. They are not the same. For example, plant breeding does not employ the use of a gene gun.

[Ceckis]

@tiatdivad you wouldn't be able to eat NATURAL rice had not been for all the GENETIC MODIFICATIONS made in so many generations by farmers. Golden rice is fighting to have a free patent that is allowed to be used in poor countries so their children can get what you have for granted. NOw you are going to deny this free technology to them just because you don't agree GMOs??? WAKE UP, Monsanto has nothing to do with golden rice!

[JPSFilmsParis]

@Ceckis To say that Golden Rice is "used in poor countries so their children can get what you have for granted," is not quite accurate. A great majority of countries in South East Asia, produce food for export markets, like North America and the EU. If you are worried about feeding children in these poorer countries, then focusing on food waste and self sufficieny would be a good place to start. The USA, for example wastes 40% of the food it produces,

[JPSFilmsParis]

@Ceckis The problem with Golden Rice is not about "denying" anyone access to this technology, since farmers earning less than $10,000/year get the technology for free. The problem is, will it make people sick? Seeing that the biosafety expert of Golden Rice has never even eaten any (see above clip), long term independent health testing is necessary. Why would we send something that we don't even eat (or a biosafety expert of Golden Rice), to poor children of South East Asia?

[myndy86]

@JPSFilmsParis Polished rice(which is what Golden rice was made for) may be linked to increases in diabetes. nih.gov/researchmatters/june20­­10/06282010diabetes.htm

Africans may already be more prone to diabetes. diabetes.diabetesjournals. org/content/52/4/1047.short Native African crops like Cleome gynandra have beta carotene and other nutrients.  Why give Africans $100,000,000 polished GM rice and maybe increase diabetes, instead of Cleome gynandra they already have for Vit A?

[Uuuurk]

@myndy86 MAY BE LINKED to diabetes according to some studies.

Golden rice is for people WHO STARVE TO DEATH due to malnutrition. Ppl who are so poor that the only thing they can grow is rice. No one is giving it away, they r growing it themself. And I would guess its mostly for poor ppl in Asia not Africa since most rice paddys r in Asia..

U really think poor ppl in Asia should meet a slow and horrible death because africans might be prone to diabetes?

[myndy86]

@Uuuurk Also, Africa grows rice! One of the main drought resistant crops in Africa is Nerica rice, which is NOT GE. The increased risk of diabetes from polished rice is for everyone, not just Africans. The precautionary principle should be used, nobody is in a situation where they can only grow rice, that's just illogical. There are numerous conventionally bred crops that increase nutrition, yields, etc. There is really no reason to use GE crops that pose more additional risks.

[Uuuurk]

@JPSFilmsParis Because there is no reason to think its dangerouse, why would beta caroten be dangerouse? Why would GMO in general be dangerouse? The testing for GM crop is so much higher then crop from other technologies, just because this guy hasent eaten any does mean its not tested. Its not aproved as food in EU due to idiotic non scientifical based EU law.

These poor children in east asia are starving to death because of malnutrition, why wouldent we send it?

[myndy86]

@Uuuurk You agreed in another video that there is more than enough food to feed the world without GE, so why couldn't we send poor people in Asia Non-GE food? GE has additional risks, such as antibiotic resistant markers, virus promoters, agrobacterium, etc. Also the fact the Asia already has native varieties of rice, Golden Rice has the additional risk of contaminating the native rice. A better alternative would be Orange Maize, which is not GE and wouldn't contaminate native Asian crops.