Wushu Eagle Claw Old School Style (YINGZAHO QUAN) 鷹爪拳

[WeiJieD]

He's so cute!

Oh,sorry...

[happydragon5077]

This is not OLD SCHOOL Eagle Claw!!!! Lily Lau and Leung Shum do that....check out some of their videos or clips on youtube.

This is Eagle Claw done in Modern Wu Shu format....although maybe in the 70`s.

If Wu Shu practitioners say their art is for performance....then PLEASE don`t use the words: WU SHU.....because Wu Shu means Martial Arts!!!!

[MechPhantom]

eithehes mad fast or the quality is bad . xD

[ChainsmokingPothead]

just looks alittle well. when he starts to run it turn into .. what's that girl dancing thing that starts with the letters "ba"

[FamilyQuan]

All the modern wushu forms take most of their core movements from traditional kung fu - it's just that contemporary wushu does it better, higher, faster,stronger- basically the's the difference between people who train four hours a wekk (and criticise fifty hours a week) and people who train professionally. It's simply better.

[mariosyjp]

modern wushu is just a dance for show. traditional kung fu is a martial art. the have nothing in common only that modern wushu was inspired by traditional kung fu.

[FamilyQuan]

It's not really possible to completely divide the two like that. Many people know traditional and modern styles - especially in China. It's true that many people who do modern wushu are weak and have little fight application training. However, few 'traditional' styles have shown any realistic fight ability in modern times. Does that mean kung fu is weak? Wushu is just the forms aspect, taken to a higher level, purely for forms, just as arts like Yiquan and san da are solely the fight aspect.

[mariosyjp]

what do you mean realistic fight ability? tournaments? traditional styles cannot be used in ring fights unless it's ok to cripple or kill the opponent so you will never see that. in wushu the forms are not in a higher level. they are deprived of their essence which is to strengthen, to teach and to apply the right amount of force on the right time in the precise point that you want.

[FamilyQuan]

To me, that's a misunderstanding, because it's up to the individual to find the essence. For example, the words I heard most of all on wushu class were 'more power', and my coach was very powerful. But he knew traditional, modern, internal, external, and he was deeply interested in the 'essence', as I am. And I know traditional people who are less interested in it. Realistic fight ability is difficult to assess - so we have to look at realistic training. Wushu doesn't claim to be for fighting.

[mariosyjp]

as you admit, wushu isn't for fighting. but this IS the essence of traditional kung fu. since wushu is not for fighting it has lost that essence and believe me it shows a lot in it's forms. as a traditional kung fu student they don't look applicable at all to me

[mariosyjp]

having said that i admit that many wushu athletes have great physical ability and control over their body but that alone does not make a fighter

[FamilyQuan]

A lot of what we hear is just tribalism, In fact, if you are a true seeker, you'll find the way, whether through wushu or wing chun or taiji. What matters more tha form or style is you, and your desire to find the essence. Just doing 'traditional' doesn't make you any nearer to it, I'm afraid. And doing wushu doesn't mean you're not heading towards it. It all depends on you, and where you put the emphasis in your training.

[mariosyjp]

you can't learn football by training on running. that's my point, that's why i disagree. if you do traditional that's what you learn, fighting. if you do wushu that's what you learn, acrobatics-show.

[FamilyQuan]

Well, at my wushu class we learned contemporary wushu, Shaolin quan, san da, yiquan, Chen taiji - and my Chinese coach knew a great deal more, traditional and modern. I've seen plenty of 'traditional' stylists who were no where near as powerful or fight oriented as my coach. Anyway - what matters is what you are searching for. If you want pure fight training, traditional probably isn't the best art either. Anyway - we're all searching.

[mariosyjp]

your coach may be good at fighting i didn't doubt that. traditional kung fu is pure fight training (at the same time spiritual too) if the sifu is real and not self declared like many in the world

[FamilyQuan]

Well if it's working for you, that's all that matters. I know a lot of people out there are conning other people - but it's not like there isn't sufficient information about for people to research and find out exactly what they want and where to find it.

[CarNikolaj]

Please spare us. So you can't fight without crippling or killing your opponent - then how can you be sure you can fight worth a damn when you can't try it realisticaly?

[mariosyjp]

you do sparring in the school under supervision of the sifu. you can apply any technique you just stop at the point before you do serious damage to your opponent. hard training makes you have total control of your moves and strength so that you can do that

[ambucias]

this is modern wushu, made for the esthetic... real fighthers are in traditional wushu.

[MaBu888]

I agree with both of you. I train in both ways.

[Namriu94]

@ambucias same form different objective

[yuking88]

i love eagle claw. damn cool =)

[realgrafik]

I dont know any martial arts, but found all the comments interesting :)

[daikeli]

standardized wushu is dance like, many aspects of it were borrowed from beijing opera, and it was designed to be an Olympic event. The question is did you learn this specific form, because it is not a real eagle claw form. It mirrors neither the southern nor Fanzi Yingzhao northern eagle claw forms. It was developed in the eighties, though i never said he was not cool nor wicked fast

[hiizm3]

man...gets kinda mad reading comments like wushu is dance-like...you should try to do some of this..and this guy is insane fast and able to keep his balance very well...i take Shaolin Kunf-Fu and i've learned eagle claw as well but no comparison with this guy

[wushu297]

is this someone by any chance that i know personally?

[wushu297]

haha thank you, I appreciate that. I looked through what i wrote and didn't see anything that I deemed to be particularly wise but i appreciate the thought.

[RP88888]

1:35 nina williams shit right there

[MaBu888]

35 not 1:35. Yeah!

[RP88888]

my bad lol

[waltergq7bhj]

How much does this thing cost? it seems like a Karate Training Machine Im going to get one to train my kung fu at home

[mvm199]

i wonder what hes doing from the 00:46 to 00:49 mark and during his end sequence, where he seems to be grabbing an opponents leg or something. i really like those moves.

[trivium666fan]

I think what he's doing is catching someone's hand after they caught his arm. Where he grabs his wrist and wipes off, right? It looks like someone grabbed him, he grabbed on to their hand as he stepped forward and wiped off into a strike to the chest, maybe.

[mvm199]

Jet li is a wushu champion and he sure can kick ass. he trained in fanziquan and changquan. for someone who said wushu eagle claw has fanzi in it, it always did. And this guy can fight for sure, i can see some leg throws, good blocks and joint locks. I do however agree it is different to traditional eagle claw, just look at the movies eagle claw and crystal fist. lots of pressure points and joint locks galore.

[trivium666fan]

This is wushu. Not gung fu. Wushu is the name of contemporary martial arts in china. Gung fu was the name giving to working out before the cultural revolution. Then it specifically described martial arts, and then fell right into the hands of the U.S. and became "kung fu." But yeah, that's background on this not being tradition, but wushu.

[ssfounder]

which year was it

[ssfounder]

which year was it

[g888]

this guy has superior skill ! do not make any mistake there ! :-)

[wushu297]

For those of you who are part of this discussion you have to click on VIEW ALL COMMENTS to get kind of an idea where your response is... sometimes it messes up and there has been confusion.. I'm sorry for that.. looks like we all have to guess

[daikeli]

Saying that the performance wushu group has gone beyond them is either misinformed or arrogant.Even with my previous comments on the Beijing/Chinese opera connection, it could be noted that their base was still from actually wushu, but that is still like comparing Shakespearean sword play the 4th -12th century European martial arts. Anyway, cheers

[wushu297]

whoa whoa... who said that performance wushu "has gone beyond them"? i cant find that in any of these comments..

hahahaa i kinda like how this video generated some opinions and discussion. aside from the "kill grandfather comment" its been interesting reading what everyone has to say

[daikeli]

it was simply in reference to 88dom88's comments about wushu players doing traditional forms and having to add flash and the like

[wushu297]

I think what 88dom88 meant was that Wushu players in those days had training in traditional martial arts as part of their standard curriculum. Even Jet Li was trained in traditional Moslem Fanziquan and Yuan Wenqing studied is a Cha Quan master. I think the point was to draw a line connecting the two rather than segregating them into categories and saying that one was better than the other.

[daikeli]

The wushu forms are for performance and difficult but do not push any envelope of skill compared to traditional styles. Eagle Claw is very acrobatic, with every Eagle Claw form possessing sections that handsprings, aerials, cartwheels and the like can be added. And "wushu" practitioner would find them equally challenging. Please remember that these were developed over centuries to condition warriors, monks, and soldiers to fight on the battle field.

[daikeli]

Now as a Chen and Wu (not the wushu Wu style though) style taijiquan practitioner in addition to the Northern Eagle Claw system, saying that unclear applications indicates lack of them, could be deceptive. It can be argued that Taiji system are too abstract in applications, but it is more that they are flexiable, but still clear. However, external styles should be generally clear and concise.

[88Dom88]

yeah there are tons of good martial artists all over the world, different nationalities

[daikeli]

This is sort of for everyone. I find it funny how such a debate may have started up over my previous comments. And not to contradict anyone, but the vast majority of biaoyan (or performance) practitioners do not understand the applications. One important thing to note is to watch the motions, stances, and postioning of the hands. The stances are generally not firm, application unclear.

[88Dom88]

Martial Arts FTW!!!

[88Dom88]

What I surprised is that so far no one has posted a "MY MARTIAL ART IS BETTER THAN YOURS!!!!" what a relief...

[88Dom88]

Even martial arts has its modern day presence. As you can see the Chinese, Taiwanese and Hong Kong Armies, they use applications which are rooted in Chinese history, and they even train with forms!!

It's enlighteneing in the ways that although China and Taiwan still share great apprehension for each other, many similarities can be found

[88Dom88]

Even in ancient history, the government had tried to wipe out martial arts, because they were scared of the power they gave to the people.

As seen when they burnt down the Shaolin temple numerous times, and many bans on martial arts were emplaced, Shaolin kung fu still prevails in it's martial arts, though it is unknown if any skills have been lost

[88Dom88]

Even if the government tries to destroy the skills of martial artists, it is very hard ^_^

Martial arts was banned in the cultural revoulution, but many martial artists still practised in secret. For Wubin, the father of modern wushu, he worked at a swimming center during the cultural revoulution, and coached swimming during day, and night martial arts!

[wushu297]

Thank you. I think history shows us time and time again that certain traditions will always find a way to survive the most horrible of times

[88Dom88]

But the good thing is, the professional wushu practitioners in China know all the applications. They say if you don't know how to execute the move in the way you'll use it in a fight, the execution of the move will: a)be weak both in execution and appearance and b)will look like dancing. That's why in many cases, you can judge a martial artist through their form, not only through sparring

[Pecherin72]

My grandfather, himself a martial artist, used to tell me that in PRC, most of it was lost but in Malaysia, Taiwan, Thailand etc, some of the old stuff is still intact and quite true to form.

[Pecherin72]

You can always tell if it was a traditional wushu form or a modern one. With swords for example, with traditional forms when they strike, it is with the waist and full body-weight because they had to cut through armour.

[Pecherin72]

Most of the spear forms and sword forms would involve jabs forward with long low stances. That's because they had to do it in a formation, so none of the flashing twirls as that will kill their own people standing next to them. Modern forms look good and have much twirling and use wrist power to manipulate the weapon.

[Pecherin72]

which looks good, but will not cut down the opponent or cut through paddings, penetrate chain-mail or leather armour.

[fucksargin]

Yes.. because in modern warfare if you are unable to penetrate chain mail, paddings, or leather based armor you're in fuckin trouble buddy

[theshadowsquadisback]

hahahaha not to mention spears! damn this guys is stupid

[Pecherin72]

I don't know what's the difference between what I said which you seem to find so stupid and what "fucksargin" said which you seem to agree with. I said traditional martial arts for "piercing the armour" is lost-since people don't wear armour today. Its become an exercise rather than a martial art. I never said which is better which is worse. Obviously YOU are the stupid one.

[fucksargin]

To those who believe they still have the "real" martial arts .. lets face it.. those were lost thousands of years ago. Taiwanese styles always claim to be descendants of Shaolin or Wudang while their styles are in most cases new and invented after the cultural revolution based on 'this or that' style or 'real traditional medicine.'

[88Dom88]

Yes, the true extent of martial arts that have been lost are unknown, but during the cultural revoulution, many martial artists fled to many neighbouring countries.

But nowadays, the main goal in martial arts is the training of the mind, spirit and body.

Though self-defence is still vital in life, the actual mentality of training to kill is thankfully not needed for the average practitioner, but undoubtedly the masters and professionals all can.

[wushu297]

Sorry but that is incorrect and a political bias and has absolutely nothing to do with the martial arts. I train in china very frequently and you'd be surprised just how much tradition is still intact. It is true that alot of horrible travesties were committed during the Cultural revolution but I think that you're giving them too much credit.

[fucksargin]

Since the creation of the PRC it has been a very clever marketing strategy for the people of Hong Kong, Taiwan and south East Asia to claim that they are precious jewels in a land of communist dancing trash. However, is complete BS as the mainland still holds untold millions of practitioners (millions of whom practice in secret.) While Bitches in Taiwan and HK are separated from their roots and heritage begin to invent and create their own styles to market their own personal gain.

[88Dom88]

While it is true that many styles have been modified, it only means that more people have the chance to learn martial arts, and also battle unemployement!

Still, so long a martial art trains the mind, spirit and body to a higher standard, it is acceptable.

[Pecherin72]

If you really learnt Taizhuquan you should know its history and style. If you did, you'd be able to tell the difference. Does this form resemble your style? Another brainless kid from "U know Where" who thinks he's seen it all.

[Pecherin72]

Strange comment this "millions who still practise in secret". How do you know? I never said Hong Kong because I totally agree that Hong Kong's full of dance trash for the Movie industry, but some of the orignial Fujian Martial arts can now only be found in Taiwan or Malaysia. And that's a fact even the Chinese mainland Wushu people acknowledge.

[Pecherin72]

Anyway my apologies to Wushu297 for the long responses. I just don't like ill-mannered people who claim to have learnt martial arts but display no humility.

[theshadowsquadisback]

dude.. thats bullshit. Have you ever been to CHina? theres alot of fake shit but theres also alot of fuckin people man and theres just as many real schools as fake

[Pecherin72]

I happen to have worked in Southern China the last 10 years, and yes there are many fake schools in China. If you understood the "license" you need from the local sports council before you get to start a class, if you knew the funding criteria and what they encourage what they discourage you'd know what I'm talking about.

[Pecherin72]

I started the first Licensed Karate Association in China several years ago via such a painful process. I don't deny there r Sifu out there who can teach the real stuff, but 1.Not many people wanna learn it 2.Government won't fund it or issue a license. So it becomes at most a father to son thing.

[Pecherin72]

In land in China, there'r real martial arts. I've seen Bajiquan which is still quite real but that was in Henan province, deep deep in-land, and Moslem.

[Pecherin72]

And Chen style Taijiquan back in Chenjiagou seems to be quite original-as per the original pre-war records of what its like. This Shaolin stuff however is not so authentic since Shaolin was razed to the ground twice in the last 2 centuries.

[88Dom88]

While I don't mind whether I can fight really well with wushu, as it is part of Chinese culture (I am Chinese btw ^_^!!!) But techniques should NEVER be lost. It would be destroying culture and history.

[88Dom88]

If movements in a form will enhance one's strength, speed and technique, aswell as fitting the the style of the form, it is acceptable.

[Pecherin72]

Yes I agree to some extent. However the policy of the State Sports Department of China is to "promote the health benefits of wushu as a form of excercise", to remove the offensive and defensive applications. This has a historical background to it, which I won't go into lest this becomes a political debate for someone else.

[Pecherin72]

Basically it is to promote social order etc. However, the real Wushu in China nowadays is in something called "JunTiQuan" which translates to "MiltiaryPhysicalFist" which is the standard martial art of the PRC army.

[Pecherin72]

This is a serious unarmed combat style where every move ends in the take-down and "killing" of the enemy. It takes out all the known "killer" moves from all Wushu styles existant and put it into one style. I've only seen a demo, but it's traditional in spirit and outlook and very impressive.

[Pecherin72]

Many Traditional Chinese Martial Arts were at one time or other, the standard miltary syllabus of one regime/army or other. Eg, Taizhuquan (Ancestor Fist) was standard of the Sung Dynasty Army. And the modern day version is this Juntiquan. Otherwise, there's not alot of real martial arts designed and practised with the intent to kill out in the civilian population.

[88Dom88]

Thanks for the extensive information you have given me. IT has helped expand my insight. It is true that in wushu, combat is not stressed and mostly forms are done. But I never knew that what the government wanted to remove the offensive and defensive applications of martial arts. So thanks for telling me that.

[Pecherin72]

Yes, during the cultural revolution everything old and traditional was to be destroyed, but when it came to wushu-they met serious resistence as you can imagine!! Thereafter the policy was to "pluck the claws from the tiger" as the saying goes.

[wushu297]

Why is that necessary? The desire to kill people? I think I'm either misunderstanding you or you have an interesting WUDE

[88Dom88]

Aiya!!! I don't mean I have any desire to kill, or for any person to kill. What I am saying is that in martial arts, when you reach a high standard,you gain the ability to kill with the many techniques of the various stlyes.

Of course,we are thankful that the world is relatively safer, so we can train martial arts without mentality in ancient times, although the techniques have not changed

[wushu297]

hahahaa there are alot of confusions im afraid. my comments were mainly addressing Pecherin72 not 88Dom88. I know that you never said anything about killing people. Man.. youtube makes this so confusing...

[fucksargin]

Number One: I studies Taizuquan in China and it would probably kill your grandfather any day.

Number Two: Stop trying to 'kill the civilian population'

[wushu297]

hey.. c'mon man. Ease up on the grandpa killing.

[Pecherin72]

Really? My grandfather passed away 18 years ago at 92. He used to teach Wuzhuquan, part of which included Taizhuquan. He was from Fochow and he learnt from the student of Lin Jiu Ru who learnt it from Chai Yu Ming who founded Taizhuquan and Wuzhu heyang quan, which means as far as I'm concerned your comment was really pathetic.

[theshadowsquadisback]

this is seriously your argument? wow...

[Pecherin72]

No, my "argument" is that a real martial-art always teaches respect and manners. That translates to "don't underestimate the guy standing before you". Mr "Fucksargin" wants to kill my grandfather, who happens, if Fucksargin's really learning Taizhuquan, to be his senior and probably his Sifu's Senior. That's what.

[fucksargin]

Man fuck the State Sports Department.... the real shit ain't a sport and it ain't called a sport ma nigga. But that don't mean it don't exist. The real shit is the shit that gets no recognition from the PRC

[Pecherin72]

Exactly. Unfortunately, no funding, no venue to train and not allowed to teach means the real master has hold a day job and the real stuff will remain limited to a small circle. Meanwhile the damn-cursed state sport department churns out imitation versions from their state sports academy. So you're right-fuck the State Sports Department which is trying to control, supplant and drown traditional martial arts.

[88Dom88]

This is the same thing for wushu. For professionals, traditional forms no longer push or train their bodies to higher levels, therefore they add moves of higher difficulty, such as twists, flips etc.

BUt of course in a fight, all wushu practitioners are very traditional in their movements : )(no need to say they can't fight lol)

[88Dom88]

Also, with the use of flashy moves, they are pushing and training their bodies to their limits. Like a long distance runner, say a olympic 10,000 meter runner. For practise, they don't just run 10,000 and stop, rest then run again, they have to run much more than the required amount in the race to build strength and stamina needed for the actual race to be successful.

[88Dom88]

Although not seen on youtube, professional wushu practitioners also do traditional forms. And because they can do these flashy movements so precisely, traditional forms are not difficult to do. I've seen professional wushu practitioners to traditional forms, and they do it almost to perfection.

[88Dom88]

I learn wushu, and my teacher is Tang Lai Wei, a former member of the Beijing wushu, and also a consecutive wushu champion.

Though wushu practitioners perform to public flashy forms to awe and attract, to reach their incredible standard, they are highly proficient traditional style and training e.g. holding the horse stance for extended periods etc.

[88Dom88]

Not only to fight, forms were created to increase speed and co-ordination. And doing the movements obviously looks "flashy," it cannot be considered "trashy." As seen in the video, their physical abilities cannot be doubted.

[88Dom88]

The misconception of wushu being only "dance-like" is incorrect.

In ancient times, all the moves of the style were compiled into a form, which can be seen in the video. Forms were made to look dance-like not because to look cool, but to hide the real moves you use in a fight.

Because this, masters could train and perform their martial art anywhere, without danger of their moves being found out or stolen

[Pecherin72]

That's for the kung-fu movies. A lot of old traditional forms still exist, NOT in china but in South East Asia and Taiwan, and there is nothing dance like about them. I assure you that Dance-like stuff are truly from post 1970s.

[Pecherin72]

Especially this eagle-claw. Old Eagle claw from Taiwan, for example, is a normal form which emphasises the use of the wrist and fingers in a normal attack, a few pounces on the opponent, combining body mass and claw attack, that's the real stuff, but main-land China forms even try to make the guy stand like an eagle-that is plain silly. Also, if you can read Chinese, you could trace the lineage of these Wushu forms you'll see that most were invented in the 80s.

[Pecherin72]

There is a whole series on Northern Eagle Claw by posted by videoport. Their forms were direct and practical no flash no trash - they showed how to use the "claw" in grappling, none of the trying to look like an eagle stuff.

[88Dom88]

I agree with you, but we shoudn't really look at these forms with apprehension.

With no offence, while the importance of the application and pragmaticism is paramount, take note that they are martial "artists." Meaning by this they take note of aesthetics and the art of the style.

[wushu297]

Look..this is why I hate this argument.. Martial arts is under attack from political prejudice. In reality there are HUNDREDS more traditional schools of martial arts that still exist in China than in Taiwan. This does not mean that either is 'better' or 'right' but a common propaganda perpetuated by Taiwanese schools is that NO traditional exists in China and only a communist "show style" exists now. Truthfully the world of martial arts isn't lumped into an either/or category

[88Dom88]

I am not adding any political prejudice (just in case for any offence.

What I meant from my comment is that regardless of any race, or culture, martial arts can be learnt by anyone of any age, and that any prejudice does not exist in martial arts itself.

Sorry for any misconceptions

[wushu297]

hahaha its alright i was talkin to someone else actually. youtube messed up the comment order. you've been very forthright and excepting in your comments.

[Pecherin72]

Oh I agree. What I meant to say is that while there are still many schools in China, but compared to say 1900 or 1800, there's been a major decrease (100:1 according to the paper publised in 1988 in China by the sports council asking for the preservation of this cultural asset.) As for Taiwan, not all of its martial arts are authentic - like the US and elsewhere there will be fakes.

[Pecherin72]

What I actually meant to say was that some of the original lineage were passed to Taiwan and Malaya, were direct-line students of the founder exist. I didn't mean to sound like every kung-fu guy in the streets of Taiwan is the real stuff-of course not.

[Pecherin72]

Finally, if its the traditional type of martial art, which ever school/style, you'll find that the Sifu will never have more than a handful of students.

[fucksargin]

So? All schools that are real gotta be public or what? If the masters adapt to Change and have to hide for a little while that doesn't mean Taiwan is the supreme martial arts authority because EVERYTHING in China is bad now.

[fucksargin]

WTF? Thats not what I'm sayin man! Like you said there are still traditional Moslem and Chen Taiji lineages and a whole bunch of other stuff that is still taught in secret (direct lineages too.) It's hella dumb to think that the lineages went over to Taiwan and China is all fake! Just because you had trouble starting a public Karate school doesn't mean you know everything.The best schools in China are the ones that aren't endorsed by the PRC.

[daikeli]

Most of this form was developed in the late 20th century when the Communists were trying to promote standardized performance wushu to take over for traditional wushu. This form (like most of modern wushu) is more based on dance, Beijing opera and guess work than on traditional forms.

[Pecherin72]

Totally agree. Traditional Martial Arts in China has been all but wiped out in the last century and replaced by "show" martial arts.

[wushu297]

Politics and Martial Arts have no business together my friend

[wushu297]

True, that modern Wushu was developed by Communists as a sport after Martial arts were banned for a long time, but I can't really agree with the notion that it is "based on dance." Old school stuff like this was all based on combining different styles of the Martial Arts together as a standardized curriculum. This form is not only based on traditional eagle but also FanziQuan, BajiQuan and ChangQuan.

[Pecherin72]

Lots of people don't seem to agree with what's been said, even though that is the actually what had happened. The styles and forms are still there, but the methods of practise have been largely changed, and the intensity of practise of the past is no longer done nowadays. There are a few isolated pockets doing real traditional wushu in China, but that is no more than a handful of people.

[MaBu888]

ALOT of southern Chinese styles are very traditional. AND wushu is very demanding, of course depending on the wushu school. Don't take it too seriously. It's wushu standardized yin shou quan, mixed wityh fanzi quan, baji quan and chang quan. Chang quan is a very general notion, as chang quan contains zha quan and tan tui (spring legs). I think wushu standardization makes all styles look very similar.

[daikeli]

As a Northern Eagle Claw practitioner, it must be noted that the majority of this form has no basis in the Northern System, and since most of Southern Eagle Claw is extinct, little in that either. Eagle Claw receives it name not from the animal imitation but simply from the claw hand, Northern: thumb and all 4 fingers, Southern: thumb, index, middle (though there was aparrently more animal imitation in the Southern style).

[SKORPIQN666]

its lovely as art or dance... but as a practical fighting style... i dont think so.

[wushu297]

Is a push-up a practical fighting style? Or is it a complex exercise that develops strength that can aid a fighter over time?

[sterrill]

wushu297 The most sensible thing I have heard in a long time. Well said my friend!

[sterrill]

This is a reply to your comment about push-ups.

[Sarsouse]

Omg! monkey is WAY BETTER! but this eagle is awsome as well. love it!

[EnergyKI]

He is an actor from the old school. He fought J-Chan on film a few times. Pretty awesome to see him so young and to know he was the real deal.

[dantankun]

I prefer the traditional Eagle claw of GM Lily Lau

[fucksargin]

HeHe ... yeah that lady. The self-proclaimed grandmaster of nothing. Chuck Norris puts her to shame..

[Mangojuice211]

Wow he looks like an eagle! lol!

[physicalcult]

This guy is amazing! His movements are so clear and he has really good 'shen fa'. Don't see that every day...