i need my toms to sound like that... got some onyx evans heads on my ludwig accent set, but they echo so much... is it coz his are on mics? i want that sound lol
randy you rock my socks man. btw what are your tom heads called they give me eargasms! also i got a problem with controlling my stick bounces. like paradiddles are retarded when i play them. tips??
Van your videos look and sound great. Couple you go over what you use to record both video and sound? I would love to know what you use - from the mics to the end and what effects you might use - compression, gating, equalization (each head?) etc.
Van love your stuff. Curious though. Aren't those heads due for a change? Given the dents I wonder how many plies you use and how thick. Maybe they should be a bit more substantial?
I have a new set I am going to put on before recording my next DVD. These are really old but don't sound that bad so I have been holding out on changing them.
Im a metal head and a huge extreme drumming fan, for the entire first year of starting drumming i concentrated on playing fast, till i stopped and thought i should pay some attention to different rudiments as well rather than just seeing how fast i can play single strokes with both my hands and feet.
concentrating on those alone, on slow tempo (to get them right), i noticed that my speed in general was improving at an alarming rate. (a good alarm :)
Its always been known that playing slower is harder for the simple fact that the mind has to think when playing slow,but not as much when playing fast.
Hey Randy...could you possibly re-upload that video you once had up that was called something like, "Messing around on the Roland kit at 2 am." That video was sooooo bad ass. Why did you take it down?
I noticed one thing plays a vital role in your demo is dynamics. Your play sounds so groovy because of the use of dynamics. It'll be good if you can do a (or more) vids on this topic.
And is not that way. I Play metal but I'm not that obsessed to play fast. Depending what the song requires, something like tempo or the style of the song. If it's something more extreme, progressive, jazzy or slowly. Different kind of stuff. But when jamming, I prefer to play like this, not that speedy thing.
well van the man please get your 4th tom head changed its so bad looking .thanks for your videos. woint to meet up with you some time i aam in the usa,good luck from ritchie d,
slow it down, and make it softer, few words my friend needs lmfao, he always comes in my room, and is like hey dude, can i play, and im like sure, and then he trys to do 16ths on the base right a way to do metal stuff, and i always have to tell him, slow down, and stop hitting the damn pedals so hard, before you break em, then he just continues to play harder, i lol at him cuz i know he'll never get it.
I know the feeling lol. In band and in jazz band at my school we have 2 "real" drummers. Me and this girl. She is a little crazy and it shows when she plays lol. In jazz we have this song where she has a solo, it like all smooth then BLAMMMY.
don't get me wrong, i like to play 16ths plus on the double bass, but not as crazy as my friend lol, he's saying he's gonna buy himself a set, and im awaiting the time when he does, so i can laugh when he breaks it so fast...
im curious, how will your friend "break" his set? i play 16ths on the double bass all the time... even before i got my DW's, my TKO beginner drums held up just fine.
break his bass i mean, and he'll break it because he hits it so hard... he doesn't know how to hit the bass smoothly since he uses his feet upward you know, like he doesn't put his feet down on the ground he does it where his heels are up. and he hits it harder and harder, the more he messes up the harder he hits it.
that just means he plays heel-up.... but if he's hitting extremely hard he could put a hole in his bass drum batter head, if there isn't a pad protecting it.
I know exactly what you mean, some beginners try to use their whole leg instead of just the foot.. a good way to train them out of this is to remove the rug from under the kick - they'll have to get it right to keep the kit from sliding away on them.. lol Thing is, a drum kit isn't a jungle-gym, it's a musical instrument. Learning to play quiet is as important as learning to slow down the root groove to make room for finesse. Loud drowns out more than half the sounds a kit can make.
yeah he always has to keep moving the left bass drum pedal foward because he pushes it back, its funny to watch him try but he can never get anything.
Man, that kit just sounds so good. I could just sit behind that thing and play it until I die of starvation. Well, ok... maybe not, but still, it's very flippin' nice !!
The problem I have is when I am actually doing the solo, it sounds clear to me. But when I hear or see the playback, it sounded rushed. Now, I've been playing for 26 years and I never quite got over this. Did you ever have that problem?
That is some serious sh*t you're doing, I have the same type of playing style as this, slow and (hopefully) meaningful. Great job and thanks for all of the posts.
I remember as a kid, I went to take a drum lesson and the teacher asked me to play something. I launched into something similar to 3:41 and he was like . . . okay . . . :D
i was trying to say that metal is about velocity...fast fills, fast moves....just that...you cannot change the mentality of a metal fan, you cannot say to him, slow down buddy... because is metal... just that...
range of what? i think all the styles of metal has a lot of technic on drums, i have to say: mike portnoy has a technic and speed that is incredible.. Nicko McBrain from maiden, has a lot of technic on the pedal...
i think metal is plenty of drummers that are amazing...just that.
Well portnoy is in a more progressive band that allows him to be creative.
I'm just saying that metal (heavy, death, thrash) is a genre that needs to have specific sounds to be classified as metal, that includes the drums. It doesnt leave much room for variation in terms of groove.
Very good lesson! Some of the best drummers aren't the fastest or the flashiest. Jeff Porcaro comes to mind. He was one of the best at laying down a nice, slow, solid groove, which allowed the song to breathe. BTW, your drums sound awesome!
playing drums is about getting the best sound out of a beat, and rushing through it only makes life harder for you and doesnt by any means make the beat sound better.
Great video, again thanks Randy, that's what I teach my very young students, slow it down, make it groove, control your energy, hold it back, explore dynamics and how something could sound at different speeds.
I don't know where the obsession with playing fast comes from, it is like they think, look I can play faster than you, therefore I am better than you. They are so wrong.
Good stuff Van, I really like the groove thing and the little snare to ride thing. I'm gonna try that one 4 sure.
kevystead 6 months ago
what kind of heads are those, they make your drum kit sound like wooooow
watson2406 7 months ago
i need my toms to sound like that... got some onyx evans heads on my ludwig accent set, but they echo so much... is it coz his are on mics? i want that sound lol
mine sound like roars instead of drums haha
antsugi 9 months ago
this lesson seems fast for me :(
MrDumess 10 months ago
how do you tune your toms
TheRevA7XBrett 10 months ago
those toms are amazing
trigapula 11 months ago
hey you're funny man, i bought your vanz drumming program over the net, love it, very helpful & your attitude is a crack up Thanks, from New Zealand
nigelregan 11 months ago
I love the sound of that kit! Those splashes are great too.
jpdrummer1 1 year ago
One of my splashes is an A Custom Zildjian and the other 2 are Fat Boy Cymbals. RVP
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vansdrumming 1 year ago
What are those 2 splashes in the middle? reply please.
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vansdrumming 1 year ago
play on the same kit!!! and love it
surfboardingrulz 1 year ago
"Dynamics" would be another good area to concentrate on...
mindseye2007 1 year ago
awesome grooving, however, your "slow" groove is not very slow.
Broski319 1 year ago
lol @ 3:39 - 3:48
kkkeiurono 1 year ago
Your lessons are sooooooooooooooooooooooooo helpful. what kind of drums do you use? and what would you recommend for and intermediate drummer?
XPAC03 1 year ago
I love the groove at 2:03 :)
MrYes69 1 year ago
I want to get a new kit and im on a major budget would any one recomend the sound percussion 8 peice doub le bass drum sert??????????
metallicafan425 1 year ago
love the lick at 1:50
briank05 1 year ago
awesome!
more reps through the patterns would be more groovey
ccccyyyrruuussss 1 year ago
I think i came a bit at 3.32
Wolverine51324 2 years ago
i have an important question! Do all those grooves you did there always have to *stay in time*??
v3teran 2 years ago
lol i cant hear u talking over the ringin in my ears lol
shame u cant turn the vids up
punkrockdrummer1990 2 years ago
Wow, amazing solos - you're awesome. Thanks!
adzsorden 2 years ago
no offense i think your a great drummer but those are some serious dents on your heads.
MaxxBrwn1 2 years ago
how long you been playing?
jway70 2 years ago
lol 3:32
this will help thanks
steevee987 2 years ago
randy you rock my socks man. btw what are your tom heads called they give me eargasms! also i got a problem with controlling my stick bounces. like paradiddles are retarded when i play them. tips??
boginachonger 2 years ago
Nice contrast between his talking and playing speed in this video :P Nice and groovy playing
ThaTyger 2 years ago
One day you will hit the mics! ;)
MrMikedrums 2 years ago
@MrMikedrums Oh i think he already did countless times.. Those things don't spoil so easily though. :)
pirateboy2 2 years ago
They can take a lot of abuse. RVP
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vansdrumming 2 years ago
wow! even when he messes up its still good!
pearlbanger1995 2 years ago 8
i have a problem. i cant help but try & play fast, which is why im the worst drummer in the world!
pearlbanger1995 2 years ago
that tom doesn't look that bad.
Hammerofthegods86 2 years ago
looks like it's time to replace the head on that 4th tom over Randy :)
UnloadFM1 2 years ago
Yep, you're right! Good tip!
~Vince
MakeItFunkyProds 2 years ago
i was wondering what kind of drums you have becuze i play and i need a good kit like yours so i want to knwow your sounds great.. please respond
sbon2 2 years ago
Yamaha Maple Custom Absolute. RVP
vansdrumming 2 years ago
You could make an entire video of your goofy faces. baha Your badass Randy, I wanna party with you one day. Loved the vid btw.
tpfaff6 2 years ago
Evans EC2 Heads???? i just bought these haha never realised there what you have :P what you got for reso heads? cause it sounds mint =)
PsyKoTiC333 2 years ago
how in the hell do i get my foot to move out of beat with my right hand?
boothehorde 2 years ago
play for longer than a month, you'll get it... It'll just happen one day and you'll get a huge boner, just wait.
m00nBALLOONS 2 years ago 9
super HD xD^^
great lesson!
Aheaddrummer15 2 years ago
Van your videos look and sound great. Couple you go over what you use to record both video and sound? I would love to know what you use - from the mics to the end and what effects you might use - compression, gating, equalization (each head?) etc.
imispgh 2 years ago
Van love your stuff. Curious though. Aren't those heads due for a change? Given the dents I wonder how many plies you use and how thick. Maybe they should be a bit more substantial?
imispgh 2 years ago
I have a new set I am going to put on before recording my next DVD. These are really old but don't sound that bad so I have been holding out on changing them.
vansdrumming 2 years ago
I hope this helps some new drummers:
Im a metal head and a huge extreme drumming fan, for the entire first year of starting drumming i concentrated on playing fast, till i stopped and thought i should pay some attention to different rudiments as well rather than just seeing how fast i can play single strokes with both my hands and feet.
concentrating on those alone, on slow tempo (to get them right), i noticed that my speed in general was improving at an alarming rate. (a good alarm :)
hadninetails 2 years ago
"slow" ( if we can say that ^^ ) or fast, you"re really an exceptional drummer and also teacher !! thx
Coin3103 2 years ago
Its always been known that playing slower is harder for the simple fact that the mind has to think when playing slow,but not as much when playing fast.
jakamake 2 years ago
i think that's some of the best drumming i've seen you do.
as a drummer, that's what i'm aiming for, but i don't have the chops
6packofsteel 2 years ago
I wish my fastest playing was up to the speed of your slowest.
Razorfish 2 years ago
Lol at 3:31-3:34!
massivejay20 2 years ago
Fuuuuuuccccckkkk. I'm not one for playin fast anyways, but jesus that last little run was fuckin incredible! Gave me shivers man! Such feeling in it!
gogogadgetspoon 2 years ago
Hey Randy...could you possibly re-upload that video you once had up that was called something like, "Messing around on the Roland kit at 2 am." That video was sooooo bad ass. Why did you take it down?
BrysonJohn 2 years ago
what kind of batter heads are on your toms?
david30918 2 years ago
Evans EC-2 coated
djrpr123 2 years ago
Van,
I noticed one thing plays a vital role in your demo is dynamics. Your play sounds so groovy because of the use of dynamics. It'll be good if you can do a (or more) vids on this topic.
sciomako 2 years ago
Done... my next lesson will be about Dynamics. RVP
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vansdrumming 2 years ago
Is this slow? Ahahahaha
Good! The better way to play.
And is not that way. I Play metal but I'm not that obsessed to play fast. Depending what the song requires, something like tempo or the style of the song. If it's something more extreme, progressive, jazzy or slowly. Different kind of stuff. But when jamming, I prefer to play like this, not that speedy thing.
jenskurtstein 2 years ago
well van the man please get your 4th tom head changed its so bad looking .thanks for your videos. woint to meet up with you some time i aam in the usa,good luck from ritchie d,
clarkes08 2 years ago
I have a whole new set that I am awaiting to put on for my next DVD. RVP
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vansdrumming 2 years ago
hey what snare is that it's awesome?
TheFlemm1234 2 years ago
14" x 6.5" Pearl Maple snare. Re-built. RVP
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vansdrumming 2 years ago
do you wear ear plugs?
2324836 2 years ago
Yes, you didn't see me taking them out and in?
vansdrumming 2 years ago
this is the first time I noticed them.
2324836 2 years ago
slow it down, and make it softer, few words my friend needs lmfao, he always comes in my room, and is like hey dude, can i play, and im like sure, and then he trys to do 16ths on the base right a way to do metal stuff, and i always have to tell him, slow down, and stop hitting the damn pedals so hard, before you break em, then he just continues to play harder, i lol at him cuz i know he'll never get it.
benj872 2 years ago
I know the feeling lol. In band and in jazz band at my school we have 2 "real" drummers. Me and this girl. She is a little crazy and it shows when she plays lol. In jazz we have this song where she has a solo, it like all smooth then BLAMMMY.
killeroctian 2 years ago
don't get me wrong, i like to play 16ths plus on the double bass, but not as crazy as my friend lol, he's saying he's gonna buy himself a set, and im awaiting the time when he does, so i can laugh when he breaks it so fast...
benj872 2 years ago
im curious, how will your friend "break" his set? i play 16ths on the double bass all the time... even before i got my DW's, my TKO beginner drums held up just fine.
thanksmisfortune 2 years ago
break his bass i mean, and he'll break it because he hits it so hard... he doesn't know how to hit the bass smoothly since he uses his feet upward you know, like he doesn't put his feet down on the ground he does it where his heels are up. and he hits it harder and harder, the more he messes up the harder he hits it.
benj872 2 years ago
that just means he plays heel-up.... but if he's hitting extremely hard he could put a hole in his bass drum batter head, if there isn't a pad protecting it.
thanksmisfortune 2 years ago
that's what i mean when i say "break his set" lol.
benj872 2 years ago
I know exactly what you mean, some beginners try to use their whole leg instead of just the foot.. a good way to train them out of this is to remove the rug from under the kick - they'll have to get it right to keep the kit from sliding away on them.. lol Thing is, a drum kit isn't a jungle-gym, it's a musical instrument. Learning to play quiet is as important as learning to slow down the root groove to make room for finesse. Loud drowns out more than half the sounds a kit can make.
tunedafish 2 years ago
yeah he always has to keep moving the left bass drum pedal foward because he pushes it back, its funny to watch him try but he can never get anything.
benj872 2 years ago
@tunedafish not enough emphasis is placed upon "dynamic playing" for fill, grooves and solos. You are so right!
mindseye2007 1 year ago
dead on, I play Heel-up, and My Kick's head is almost swiss cheese.
OzzyOsbourneRox 2 years ago
3:45-3:48 VERY FUNNY!
dantheman23312 2 years ago
Man, that kit just sounds so good. I could just sit behind that thing and play it until I die of starvation. Well, ok... maybe not, but still, it's very flippin' nice !!
mathowlett 2 years ago 3
The problem I have is when I am actually doing the solo, it sounds clear to me. But when I hear or see the playback, it sounded rushed. Now, I've been playing for 26 years and I never quite got over this. Did you ever have that problem?
kingpaul74 2 years ago
All the time. You just have to focus on allowing the fills or groove to breath. RVP
vansdrumming 2 years ago
I love you man ...sniff.
That is some serious sh*t you're doing, I have the same type of playing style as this, slow and (hopefully) meaningful. Great job and thanks for all of the posts.
Awesome
wongsol 2 years ago
man that was sweet!!!!
cristian2001 2 years ago
Nice vid man:) Your drumming speaks for itself!
It would thrill me, if you would make some stuff about patterndrumming!! (I am a huge fan of Danny Carey ...)
Thanks from DK
Larsjorgensen12 2 years ago
That was Sick man!
OrganicTrichome 2 years ago
Sounds to fast for me! I'm still trying...
prowclaw 2 years ago
AWESOMEEEEEE !
Loutjuh1991 2 years ago
holy.... sweee....ttt....... >_>
0kills 2 years ago
I remember as a kid, I went to take a drum lesson and the teacher asked me to play something. I launched into something similar to 3:41 and he was like . . . okay . . . :D
itsadryheat 2 years ago
I've been trying to explain this to my Slayer-Freak guitarist friend for twenty years.
MidiPunk 2 years ago 4
if you are a heavy metal lover, you cannot understand this.... metal is about METAL.
Gerchotazo 2 years ago
try and take in other types of music and add to it, it can be helpful
premierAB 2 years ago
i was trying to say that metal is about velocity...fast fills, fast moves....just that...you cannot change the mentality of a metal fan, you cannot say to him, slow down buddy... because is metal... just that...
Gerchotazo 2 years ago
doom metal?
Bzong 2 years ago
Metal drumming doesnt have much range.
At all.
KrackerJacker 2 years ago 2
range of what? i think all the styles of metal has a lot of technic on drums, i have to say: mike portnoy has a technic and speed that is incredible.. Nicko McBrain from maiden, has a lot of technic on the pedal...
i think metal is plenty of drummers that are amazing...just that.
Gerchotazo 2 years ago
Well portnoy is in a more progressive band that allows him to be creative.
I'm just saying that metal (heavy, death, thrash) is a genre that needs to have specific sounds to be classified as metal, that includes the drums. It doesnt leave much room for variation in terms of groove.
KrackerJacker 2 years ago
well, if the topic is "groove" i totally accept what you're saying.
Gerchotazo 2 years ago
Listen to periphery or animals as leaders, then say that again.
ItsJustTSmith 2 years ago
I spent the first 20 years drumming heavy and as fast as I can. It takes years to mature as a drummer. I am still trying. Ha Ha. RVP
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vansdrumming 2 years ago
omg i love your groove !!! so awesome !
the best video i think..
oOoLorenzoOo 2 years ago
Very good lesson! Some of the best drummers aren't the fastest or the flashiest. Jeff Porcaro comes to mind. He was one of the best at laying down a nice, slow, solid groove, which allowed the song to breathe. BTW, your drums sound awesome!
mikewnc 2 years ago
this is always what my drum teacher told me, keep it slow if you want to practise!
blackmilo2 2 years ago
music is about the sound not about speed... great video randy , keep on drumming
drumxmurb 2 years ago 7
@drumxmurb Dude his name is Rob lol...
12AW13erry 1 year ago
Lol some of your slow stuff was a little quick. Those are coated EC2s right?
cole2paul 2 years ago
Nice one another great video!
Tuwaang07 2 years ago
hey i got that shirt haha XD
indieHindley 2 years ago
i completely agree with you man. I hate drummers who think just because they are fast and repetitive that they are better than anyone else
Stangguyv6 2 years ago
hi! i wish that you can help me to learn how to play a drum solo it was from eric carr the song is carr jum 81 it came in revenge album KISS
CYBOR2099 2 years ago
hell yeah randy i got that shirt too!! got it at ken stanton. its a zildgian tee.
CareyBeaufordPortnoy 2 years ago
playing drums is about getting the best sound out of a beat, and rushing through it only makes life harder for you and doesnt by any means make the beat sound better.
MakMMattY 2 years ago
Great video, again thanks Randy, that's what I teach my very young students, slow it down, make it groove, control your energy, hold it back, explore dynamics and how something could sound at different speeds.
neoraul20 2 years ago
I don't know where the obsession with playing fast comes from, it is like they think, look I can play faster than you, therefore I am better than you. They are so wrong.
neoraul20 2 years ago 9