Frankly, I tried watching your content with an open mind, but you're either naive or just downright arrogant, if not both. Of all the claims you make about "how the world works" (yours, perhaps?) the only thing worth listening to was the bit about Oliver Stone's comments on Jews. Still, you've used the word despicable so many times it made me think you need to learn about what a thesaurus is. How about contemptible, reprehensible, degrading, or simply mean or low if you felt you had to qualify?
Wikileaks will not have blood on their hands, the government will. If the government wouldn't try to hide the truth from us, they wouldn't need to be doing this.
The critique against wikileaks is rather unfair. First they are distributing information that governments or other companies have suppressed, which we are supposed to value constitutionally (right to free speech, freedom of the press).
And the government has been mis-reporting information so badly, there is simply no other way of getting this information. There needs to be more independent organizations like wikileaks. Especially now with deception so broad.
@havocy91 So let me get this straight. People who want to kill us already (and who do so) still want to kill us. Plus transparency is introduced for bad policy which promotes more people wanting to kill us. So even if we don't change anything, we can at least see what should be changed.
Also, didn't the state department just say (for the 3rd+ time) that one was has actually been comprised by release of these documents?
try telling that to a local who gave info. to US troops who will now be hunted down and killed for this
there was a better way to release this info without compromising people who would be hunted down by our enemies, this was just so damn irresponsible on wikileaks part
@havocy91 Your perception of risk/value is completely askew.
You make a crazy assumption that everything the military/government does is for the best interests of the US AND US soldiers!
So endangering a soldiers life on a mission they didn't have to go for, and killing civilians they didn't have to, which raise resentment and future terrorists at people who were ordered to kill their families isn't cause for a whistleblower?
If you think the NY Times is telling you the truth, then you should go down there and take a swim. People are getting real sick in the Gulf Coast from oil and Corexit!
Do you even know what the disbursements are made from? They are made of petrochemicals. They are essentially solvents, potentially more toxic than the oil if not as toxic. The water will not be safe to consume for a very long time. PS. You should learn how to detect when a government agency or scientist is telling you pure cod shit.
I love wikileaks! It is important that citizens know what their governments do. However I think it is bad that those names leaked, but "secret america" is too big to hide anything. It should be a lot smaller and a lot less people with acsess to classified stuff.
You've got to be kidding, right? The media needs to report on a lower-than-expected amount of oil on the surface for the sake of the tourism industry? Are you an idiot? Unless you have tested the water at the surface AND below the surface for MANY dangerous chemicals that are visible and NOT visible, you CANNOT assume that the water is safe. The tourism industry is NOT more important than safeguarding people from the toxic chemicals that will be present in the gulf waters for many years.
The environmentalists will still claim that the dispersed oil is "under the water", not knowing anything about the fact that oil FLOATS, they are a bag of hot air.
you know this sounds like something the mainstream media can spin to give good old b.o. credit for. obama came several times to walk the beach and miraculously the oil spill gets better. not sure why they are not spinning this for the despot? / as a part of the tea party movement i can tell you that i for one do not want to be aligned with either party. yea the democrats are the worst of the two yet the republicans have yet to figure out what conservative means. / oliver stone = bigoted jerk
Oh, suddenly, when liberal women who also happen to own small businesses, see that their livelihood is threatened, they become logical and realize a "conservative," "selfish" view of the situation?
When other businesses are threatened; when Big Business uses their politicians to limit competition and throw up barriers to smaller upstarts, this is fine? but when their businesses are threatened, they lose their liberalism?
I love it when Liberalism becomes the enemy to Liberals.
there is no need to have open discussion ,there are solid facts about the Holocaust ,and all the people how want to discuss the holocaust are just antisemitic holocaust deniers
Thx HowTheWorldWorks for policing the likes of Annie. It's Amazing your "Cosmetics & Toxicity" analysis that people cannot see we are the safest country's regarding our personal care products. The biggest part of a companies budget is spent on R & D and protecting their consumers. I can't believe these groups think the very compnaies want to kill off their consumers with lead in lipstick. Even a 4 year old couldn't eat enough to kill them. We as consumers have been suckered for too long.
After reading the conservapedia article in depth it amuses me to note that they try to subvert Kant's theory in order to come to a conclusion that is opposite of what Kant said of the subject matter. The article claims that Kant's categorical imperative is solved by lying. This is absurd, because Kant claimed you are duty-bound not to lie in any circumstance. This misrepresentation of ethics is discomforting.
Yes Jews do control the media, which is the reason for the non-existent rational (and questioning) free discussion on the exaggerated Holocaust stories. Even some Hollywood directors are admitting it and noone is even denying it, finally.
"But I don't care if Americans think we're running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them." - Joel Stein
"Do Jews run Hollywood? You bet they do, and what of it?" - Ben Stein
Yes Jews do control the media, which is the reason for the non-existent rational (and questioning) free discussion on the exaggerated Holocaust stories. Even some Hollywood directors are admitting it and noone is even denying it, finally.
"But I don't care if Americans think we're running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them." - Joel Stein
"Do Jews run Hollywood? You bet they do, and what of it?" - Ben Stein
@Rownery The war in Afghanistan is really the only justifiable war we had in response to 9-11. Due to the fabian tactics used by the opposition, winning over the general public is the most crucial part for winning such a war. This means we will be there for a long time. We should be familiar with the fabian tactic, its how we won our independance from Britian.
Still waiting for my climate change vid. I asked you months ago and I know you're busy but I'd really am looking forward to seeing your probing analysis and insightful logic.
2. 9/11 was mostly fallout for meddling in the Middle east in the first place, because we didn't like the people in power during the 50s. I have a sneaking suspicion that if we leave the middle east to their own devices we will be free of entanglements from there in the long run.
@hallavast You over simplify, There "meddling" in the middle east had to do with the cold war, Russia, Britain and many other players before that. As far as getting out of the middle east I agree, we should cut bait, but not because its wrong. But because we have to many other problems, but in the long run the problems there will come back to haunt us but at least if we let the rest of the world deal with it they'll be on our side when we save their butts again.
@Illumified It is easy to oversimplify using this medium. How many puppet dictators shall we install in the region before we're done? We claim to promote democracy for the sake fo the people. Then when democratically elected regimes come to power (Hamas), we say the people elected the wrong leaders. Then eventually we intervene and have their leaders executed when we've had enough of them (Hussein). We should have the same policy in the mideast as we should in the economy. Hands off!
i really don't think we've seen the worst of the oil spill yet. if it seems like we're having trouble finding oil on the surface, isn't it more likely because most of it is still trapped in underwater plumes, which is what ian macdonald has been saying for weeks now?
You might be right. But, from what I've read in mainstream papers, the problem is resolving itself faster than expected, and the worst result may ironically be the media panic that is destroying the tourism industry worse than the oil itself.
@HowTheWorldWorks There were some scientist, on main stream news, (who I didnt pay much attention too), that said the oil would naturally dissipate, through solar and other effects, this was months ago and I dont remember the network, I wish I would have paid more attention now. Appreciate your Videos, Oliver Stone is a Jackass
@Illumified i think i read a similar article recently. something about the temperature of the water playing a role in the dissipation of the oil. however, i believe this is based on the assumption that all the oil is collected at or near the surface of the water. as you get deeper, where plumes are likely to have formed, the water is naturally cooler for various reasons, which would make me question whether the dissipation theories are completely accurate. but yes, i agree,stone is a tool:-P
@HowTheWorldWorks how about this....since they have used so much corexit that the oil has dispersed and sank to the bottom, the loop current has been affected in ways top scientist cant even imagine yet, also the water looks clear but there is still toxic amounts there is plenty of vids on yt on the subject, the taliban is funded by our govt as well, so think about what your saying and really do some reasearch before you say anything, but i can tell already your asleep, and need to WAKE UP!!!
@cristoballs Oil is non-solveable with Water. It is also very viscous and in most cases lighter then water. This means it will pool above water making it visible.
@falchard well, you're half right. yes, oil is less dense than water and, in most cases, will float above water. the problem you're assuming standard atmospheric conditions, where the bouyant force for the oil is greater than the pressure of water pushing down on it. however, once you get past a certain depth in water, things change, because you have a much larger amount of water pressing down than the bouyant forces of the oil that are pushing it up.
wait how come you have no outrage against the us goverment for paying the paki's to fund the taliban and you know what ive been over there and the fact of the matter is those people will do anyhting for money dont matter who is paying them easy to talk when you have never been over there with those people another band wagon here maybe we should charge navy seals for punching a prisoner ohh no wow
Favorite awkward verbal pause of the day: "I got alot of great responses from people who would never watch my content, small women, ..." Made me giggle.
1) Kantian ethics dictate that Wikileaks are not responsible for any adverse consequenses of speaking the truth (rather that the would-be killers of those people would be).
2) It is not our job to police the world.
3) I agree that the GOP will definitely benefit from the Tea Party.
1: Sure. But the X here would be the Taliban. The people who hunt down and kill these people would be the ones responsible. Classic Kant. You should read up on him sometime.
2. If you mean our trade lines and oil supply, then we have no right to those interests in the first place. If mean preventing future terrorism against us... well, there's been no shortage of those attacks being attempted on our soil even with our troops over there.
@hallavast 1: If you don't know what you're hunting you can't hunt it.
It's like being told to hunt down a deer but having no clue what a deer looks like. Names offer a pinpoint target.
2: Maybe not but we won't get to use them if Iraq blows up again. In addition 9/11 was a wake-up call. That was our punishment for Clinton ignoring the threat Bin Laden represented.
@wormer104 1. This is all too true, but it has no bearing on Kantian ethics. You're arguing more of a utilitarian viewpoint. Kant's ethics are devoid of concerns about consequences, because the future is unknowable and infinite in possibilities. For example, perhaps this info leak would cause some taliban operatives to become reckless and expose themselves in pursuit of these people. Then the action would be moral because it had a good outcome.
@hallavast I don't give a rat's ass about someone's ethics. If you do something that has the direct effect of injuring/killing someone you get shafted.
@wormer104 Lol. You don't care about ethics but you espouse your own moral standards? Fair enough, but it's no reason to not educate yourself on it. Wikipedia has the basics on Kant. Conservapedia has an abbreviated version if you prefer that.
2. Jihad is an arabic word for struggle that refers to the "religious duty" of Muslims. The context I think you refer to is an abberant perversion of the intent of "jihad"; which is a specific (imagined) duty to blow up infidels. Which follows that...
@hallavast No actually. It's fairly simple. If you do X and it directly and realisticly leads to X which causes Z to come to harm you are responsable for Z being harmed.
Released intel including the names of our aid/their enemies > jihadists being pissed > the owners of the names being killed.
The terrorists have declared it their duty to off us. How it means in general in the face of their meaning is meaningless.
@wormer104 If you don't care about what Kant's ethics are, then I don't care about your moral code. See how that works? It's called moral relativism, and if you discard the philosophy of Kant (an important historical philosopher) willy nilly without even reading it, then why should I listen to your own argument? Here's a counter example of what COULD happen... Hint: if you read Kant, you might see why basing morality on consequenses might not be sound all the time....
@wormer104 Released intel including names of their enemies > jihadists being pissed > the jihadists fouling up an assassination attempt > the terrorists being captured > victory.
In this scenario, the outcome was a good thing. So would the guy that listed the names be responsible for this "good deed"? According to your logic (a utilitarian view), yes. Seems kinda absurd when you judge everything this way. The journalist is duty-bound to report the truth. That's my point. and Kant's.
@hallavast No it wouldn't becauase it wasn't his risk to take. He would lose nothing reardless of the outcome.
Now if he agreed to get his head removed -with a dull ax- if they were hurt it would be different...but he didn't and he won't. His kind never do.
Years ago to be gay mean't to be happy. Now it's common meaning is dominant which is a far-cry from happy. What jihad meant before is no longer relevant. What it's common meaning now does.
It isn't his risk to take. Never was. He like the other activists just want to push an agenda. That's it. He's no journalist. He's an activist. His reckless behaviour puts others at risk and he doesn't care so long as HIS point gets across.
If he wants to bust secrets so much he should do it to his own government and keep his beak out of American concerns.
@wormer104 Let's put your second problem into a different context: if a white supremicist christian church decides to warp the meaning of blasphemy to include "associating with non-whites", would you take offense at the perversion? Same thing happens with Muslims and the word "Jihad". If you want to discuss the perverted meaning of jihad, please be more direct instead of asking me if i know what the word means.
The Tea Party lost me when they joined up with GOP & adopted Palin. I was looking for a viable alternative 3rd party, not an arm of one of the entrenched power factions. F the Democrats & Republicans.
Because Stone supports the Tear Down America movement.
@drreedindeed You're lying to yourself if you would rather have an Independent in the office. More times than not independents lean left. Most undecided voters vote left. If you protest the democrats in power, it's only logical to support to put a republican in instead.
@17R3W My local Tea Party group is majority republican, but there are also Libertarians (me), Democrats, and even some Anarchists. We all unite under the theme that we aren’t living in the America that the founders gifted us with. They gave us rules and laws designed to defend our liberty and they must be enforced regardless of gender, skin color, social class, or sexual preference. Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!
Its not cleaning up faster than we thought that's complete bullshit. we sprayed so many damn dispersants and now the oil is suspended at neutral buoyancy or straight up sank to the bottom where it can enter the food chain for decades. try going down there and jumping in. its like swimming in diesel fuel you come out all greasy. just because u don't "see" it on the surface doesn't mean everything's all better... that's exactly what they want u to think, y do u think they used dispersants
@17R3W A little pissed? I actually palm faced when I heard him say that.
Anyone who knows a bit about how oil behaves in water (and the methods we use to combat spills) knows that if you don't see oil on the surface it doesn't mean that there is no more oil in the water column or on the sea floor.
So Lee, I've said it before, and I'll say it again: fact check your claims.
@alwaysending Let's quote NOAA from the NYT article on which Lee's source is based upon:
“Less oil on the surface does not mean that there isn’t oil beneath the surface, however, or that our beaches and marshes are not still at risk,” Jane Lubchenco, administrator of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, said in a briefing on Tuesday. “We are extremely concerned about the short-term and long-term impacts to the gulf ecosystem.”
Lee nor myself ever said ALL the oil was gone, or that there was no need of concern. We simply stated that 40% of the oil has naturally dissipated.
And you FIRST attempted to wrangle him on even stating that the oil was naturally displacing, then you come out and agree (without stating so, but basing your quotations on the same article that he read while cutting out the part of the 40% gone) with this...
@alwaysending Lee said it seems to be cleaning up faster and no oil on the surface is found anymore. And the media should stop saying it's dangerous to swim.
My entire point is that you should be very careful with such statements/impressions. As oil can go below the surface easily and there can still be enough toxins in the weather to make it not healhty to swim.
The 40% is the more volatile compounds, the tar balls are still there (and they can be very nasty, hence NOAA's statement).
I have got nothing against Jewish people. I do, however, have a HUGE problem with Zionists and Jews who lie to themselves and others, telling themselves that the genocide and atrocities Israel commits on a daily basis against their own countrymen (Palestinians) is anything less than completely immoral and disgusting, tell themselves their use of violence to enforce a blockade is okay, and have the audacity to purposely get the USA involved as a meat shield. Israel is NOT our friend.
Okey to begin.. i like most of your videos. They are very good. But i think you should do a bit more research before sending your viewers swimming. Because it was a massive oil spill. And if the oil is no longer visible on the top of the water... it probably means that PB put it a massive amount of dispersant an the water. Which makes the oil mix the water. It will also get diluted which makes it no longer visible. But all the sea in that area will be poisoned. So it is still very dangerous
I think the goal Wikileaks serves, by providing a platform to expose government and corporate corruption is very important, but yeah, this time, with a leak that could endanger people in the hands of the Taliban, they indeed acted very irresponsibly and should be called on it.
Let me tell you whats happening. When it rains here, the rain smells like a solvent, and it turns our grass yellow. This isn't normal. I hope you are right about a quick clean up, but the methods they are using, with the corexit, may be already causing long term environmental effects to places far inland of the coast.
oh yeah - attacking jews and jewish rights is trendy and fashionable. newspapers don't consider it news. many people jews are too afraid to give oliver stone a soapbox because it would just bring more attention to hollywood and israel.
in the end jews dont kill their critics. journalists compare israel to nazy germany on a routine basis and get awarded for it. it's a waste of air to be outraged by moral idiots like stone.
lee - i have a tough time buying your libertarian platform when you support both the afghanistan and iraq war. the wikileaks simply tell us what the media refused - our military has failed to live up to its standards and has covered up blatant war crimes.
if this was israel the whole world would be in a frenzy. but when obama's in charge...silence.
@ImNeilPatrickHarris So you can't be libertarian and support the fight against extremist Islam, which is anti-liberty as you can get? I'd like it if we could tell the rest of the world to go hang, but news flash--we live in a real world, where that's impossible.
I don't understand how can you say things like "wikileaks will have blood in their hands" as something disgusting when all this time the military has had blood in their hands.
I'm agnostic about the work of wikileaks, because it is absolutely politically motivated but they had also released many misbehaviors and mistreatment covered up by the government, but what I'm sure of is that the US should not be in Afghanistan, and that US military interventionism is bullshit.
Is is possible for be critical of Israel and not be antisemitic? I have a neighbor, who never actually said this but gives the impression, that criticism of Israel and antisemitism are one and the same
@WorldAccording2ME It's not that critics of Israel are automatically antisemitic, it's that it's almost impossible to distinguish the real critics from the bigots. You go onto any university campus and you'll find your share of protests, but it's only the protests against Israel that actually get violent---shouting down Jewish students, cornering them, etc. I sincerely doubt that there are any anti-Zionist groups out there that don't have at least some bigots pulling their strings.
Lee, the diplomatic cables were censored and redacted to the protect the identities of people who might be endangered by their release. Your vicious and hypocritical attack on whistleblowers and so-called intelligence "leaks" is anti-democratic and dangerous to a free and open society. The question is not why Wikileaks released the information, the question is whether the US is best served by truth and openness, or deception and secrecy. I think the question has already been answered.
One other thing, good point with the tea party. I admit I was against it at first, but I realize I was wrong, and the movement has potential. I may not agree with everything they do, but at least they're trying.
I thought we couldn't trust abc and the NYT. Those liberals are just saying there's no oil because obama is a socialist and his energy czar makes false accusations that, um, do other not fictional things.
In all seriousness, I'm torn on the wikileaks thing. Yes, there are risks, but their purpose is to indiscriminately protect the freedom of information, and I do think it's hard to make a blanket statement on that issue.
hmmm re: argument against wikileaks. I for one am glad the world now knows that the ISI is funding the taliban. please note that the american government gives 15 billion $ of aid to pakistan yearly, much of it going to the ISI.
You obviously know very little. This oil is going to naturally disappear quickly. Go read about the Exxon Valdez spill and other historical oceanic oil spills. Especially the environmental impacts and how we are still dealing with them decades later.
Dude, did you actually look at the content of this leak. Where is your disgust for the civilians killed by our troops, by drones and by the CIA? You feel sorry for paid informants and not for dead civilians. Give me a break.
Tainting the tea party movement with the charge of racism is proving to be an effective strategy for Democrats. There is no evidence that tea party adherents are any more racist than other Republicans, and indeed many other Americans. But getting them to spend their time purging their ranks and having candidates distance themselves should help Democrats win in November. Having one’s opponent rebut charges of racism is far better than discussing joblessness.
I'm sorry, if I ever have the displeasure of being in the presence of Mr Wikilinks, I couldn't avoid breaking him permanently out of insane rage ... I really hate scum bags like that. You don't even wanna know whats going through my head
Obama, Pelosi and Reid are the leaders of the Democratic Party. Individuals who align with the principles of the the "Tea Party" are anti-Obama, Pelosi and Reid.
oil can still be easily found from that tanker 20 years ago. However its not a lot . but it has hurt some animals making them sick even till this day . Why do people hate jews so much? I really dont see why . i am not a huge fan of the jewish community . But i don't want to see them all die .
I really hope that the gov doesn't respond to the wikileaks thing by licensing the press or something like that. Drinkingwithbob brought that up and that is a really scary though. The press is saying wikileaks did a bad thing, but I disagree. While lee does discuss a down side, the American gov has no right to keep so many secrets. Didn't JFK say the word secrecy is repugnant in a free society? We need OPEN, TRANSPARENT government, not secrecy. Look for inet regulation... Now thats REPUGNANT!
The gulf is an absolute MESS. I sub to tedtalks and there was a video that came out just yesterday talking about how bad it is, how the dispersant makes the oil more toxic and how these poisons make it through the food chain, from the plankton, to plankton feeders to the larger fish that eat them. Check out watch?v=PtMFL2ViM-c she isn't a liberal activist, just a toxicologist that specializes in the gulf of Mexico (If I recall correctly). I am happy for what little good news tere is, but come on
lol, so if the 'spy's in afganistan get murdered by the taliban than wikkileaks will have blood on their hands? haha how about the american government who got them involved in the first place? how about them, who invated afganistan and made all sorts of hourse shit excuses to justify slaughter? or how about about the taliban who would actually the ones initiating the violence? geezes
@pelucas716 yet you're probably all assed up & Carl Rove over the Plame thing when she wasn't covert, they knew there was no crime & they knew Sinunu who hated Bush was the actual leak ... but just investigated for 3 years knowing there was nothing to investigate on what they knew was a none crime ... but lets just assume you're not that kind of idiot
You still have your head all twisted up ... HOW ABOUT DICK! Regardless, Wikileakes exposed operatives knowing it could get them killed! IDIOT!
@omegahpla hah uhm what?n i honestly understoond nothing of what u just said, i really doubt that u understand it either, what i also dont get is where tha heck all this aggression is comming from. did u i insult u in any way? idk. i would ask my self that if i was u. either way w.e dont really feel like debating over this. if ur realy interested in politics, check out stefbot on youtube, that might feed that uhm, craving of yours. peaze
@pelucas716 Of course you didn't understand what I just said, you're an idiot. You don't know about Plame, and you don't know enough to understand that prick outed sources working against the Taliban and they will be killed eventually if they stay, and there is a good chance it will be quick.
You want to blame the US for being there in the first place, because you are an idiot, you couldn't carry a decent conversation on this, so you should probably shut your stupid face, but you probably wont
Wikileaks Editor in Chief Julian Assange cannot be held accountable until after he/she has completed the full surgery for gender change. That would just be cruel, as he/she is obviously very confused as to right wrong, good bad, up down et al.
Does anyone know if Julian is going from male to female or from female to male? Seriously, the name is not helping nor is the hair.
@TiamoInfidels "Wikileaks Editor in Chief Julian Assange cannot be held accountable until after he/she has completed the full surgery for gender change."
Bradley Manning is the Traitor who should in reality be Hanged for his Crimes of Espionage. Julian Assange, or as we affectionately call him here, the big J ASS, is the tranny who published the docs. They both have Blood on their Hands and I hope they both pay the ultimate price for it.
@TiamoInfidels "Julian Assange [...] is the tranny who published the docs."
You seem to have Assange confused with Manning. There are myriad sources confirming Manning's transexuality. How did you get the idea Assange was a transexual?
@hitssquad have you seen J ASS's photo? You have no gaydar at all? Jeezuz man Manning is your basic gay man. Nothing more and certainly less since he seems to have a real problem with rejection. J ASS is just your basic SHIM. She/male. Just look a a photo and then you will know what I am talking about.
Wikileaks will have blood on their hands, you have got to be kidding me.
I am sure you have seen Collateral Murder its war and it's is a bloody and murderous business and I stress business because we all know the real reasons why American invaded Iraq and Afghanistan.
So that people like you can sit comfortable warm and well fed in a country that has 5% of the worlds population and consumes 25% of the worlds oil.
If you want to see who has blood on their hands look in the mirror.
The wikileaks put American soldiers lives - including my brothers life - in unnecessary danger. That is not a neocon argument. It is an American argument. I don't care what your position on the war is. You DON'T publish classified data against our military.
@Eterna1Soldier lol @ "our military". "your" military put your brothers life in unnecessary danger. LOL! @ "american argument"...geeze even arguments are nationalized now?
If anything you should blame this on the military since it was the military that put it on wikileaks. whats that? oh, you only attribute some actions taken by individual soldiers to be "actions of the military"? arbitrary line, my friend.
Anytime the government passes a law saying it's to protect the consumer, the truth is the law is designed to put the smallest competition out of business.
Then they come back every few years to wipe out the next smallest.
Remember Remember the 2nd of November and the Tea Party Patriot Revolt. The Constitutions the reason We must stop this treason So Patriots get out there and Vote Tea Party Patriots the time has come Our power is in our vote Our children’s future is what’s at stake you see Will it be freedom or the curse of slavery? So Remember Remember the 2nd of November Our children’s future don’t burst If the people in Government continue to rule Our children will look back at us and curse
I don't care who controls Afghanistan. 70% of them are illiterate and they haven't figured out indoor plumbing. They don't even recognize Afghanistan as a single country. They don't draw the lines on the map the same way the West does. If one thing comes out of this Wikileaks fiasco it better be that we no longer give billions to Pakistan so they can fund people who kill U.S. troops. The world divides politically into those who want to control people and those that have no such desire.
Who know's how people will vote, but here is what I do know. I read an article about my Congressman, Hal Rogers, supporting some stupid 5 million dollars... for cheetahs or something. I don't know the full story I just caught an article today when I was glancing at a newspaper.
I think the truth needs to come out regardless of who gets hurt. Many innocent people die in wars and everyone should know exactly how many people are being killed in order to have an informed opinion on if they should or should not support the war . If you believe that the truth needs to be controlled by a "privileged" group of people that will take the responsibility of deciding about the worthiness of the war away from those who finance it, I must disagree with your "logic". Big fail bro.
While I personally think the Tea party is sorely misguided, trying to link normal citizens who are trying to promote libertarian and conservative ideals to a bunch of corporatists is a terrible strategy. I don't wanna see the GOP get more votes, but the Democrats aren't a much better option, and their political strategy blows.
At this point, politics has become a battle of deciding who's the lesser of the 2 evils. Something's gotta give.
Any time I've tried talking to someone who claimed to be apart of the tea party, they were definitely not liberal, so I'm not sure that the Dems are blowing off too many potential votes by saying that the tea party is conservative.
Not many people know what Oliver Stone does. Mel Gibson is one of the most recognizable faces in America.
Well, Stone's got a point. The focus is always given to the Jews in the holocaust. No one focuses on other 11 million non-Jewish holocaust deaths. My grandma was in a work camp because she was Latvian.
@DoomHippie True. Not to diminish the horror of the Holocaust, but Hitler wasn't the biggest mass murderer by far. Soviet Socialist Republic leader Stalin was responsible for more than 10 million deaths. Mao of China killed more than Stalin. Is it any wonder people aroud the world love marxism and socialism? (kidding) Most Jews in this country are libtards who want another go with socialism. Will it be good to them? Not.
@DoomHippie The holocaust was the death of 12 million people, that includes gypsies, homosexuals, blacks, jehova's witnesses, communists and other so called "undersireables". But again, half of those were jewish, and jews not only had no land to emmigrate to protect themselves, but they also had no guns of their own which would have saved their asses or minimized deaths. Jews were the main target and the most affected, so that's why there is emphasis on them.
Well, if you think that the Jews deserve some sort of special emphasis because they had the "most" deaths, I question why we never talk about Stalin's Purges, which killed far more people then the Holocaust ever did. If we go by numbers, our textbooks should focus on this. The reason we don't, is that Stalin was our ally at the time and Hitler was the enemy. Therefore, we emphasize our enemies atrocities, and downsize that of our then-ally's.
@DoomHippie No. The holocaust is emphasized more because Jews as a group of people lost more of their own, proportionally speaking. Furthermore, the Jews were targetted solely because they were born jews, not because they were dissidents, so there was no way the jews could have defended themselves or done something about it. Even more, the holocaust was not the only massacre the jews have lived, so adding to that 2000 years of persecution and well, that's the reason there is more emphasis.
Oh, so I suppose you're implying that the gays, gypsies, ethnic slavs, and the disabled were not born with there condition that made them targets? Proportionally speaking, I think the disabled lost the highest percentage, and the sadistic experiments that they were put through were probably the worst in the entire Holocaust. And the Slavs and Gypsies had similar persecution throughout all of history (the word "slave" comes from "Slav").
I just think it's rather sick that the Jewish experience gets all the recognition. I have never even heard of a movie or book that focused on the stories of any of the eleven million non-Jewish holocaust victims. I find it strange that whole chapters of school textbooks are devoted to explaining the atrocities that the Jews went through, while the others who died end up at the end of the chapter, in a single paragraph, as if a afterthought.
Frankly, I tried watching your content with an open mind, but you're either naive or just downright arrogant, if not both. Of all the claims you make about "how the world works" (yours, perhaps?) the only thing worth listening to was the bit about Oliver Stone's comments on Jews. Still, you've used the word despicable so many times it made me think you need to learn about what a thesaurus is. How about contemptible, reprehensible, degrading, or simply mean or low if you felt you had to qualify?
msblog2011 2 months ago
you are so annoying
markLevi1982 9 months ago
@markLevi1982
naw he just has ADD
Salvysahagun 7 months ago
@markLevi1982
naw he just has ADHD
Salvysahagun 7 months ago
I really love your videos! Keep up the good work!
antiloqax 10 months ago
I like. But find an alternative for disgusting. Reprehensible, abhorrent , despicable, vile, horrific, horrendous, sly, malicious :)
axlbernard 11 months ago
Wikileaks will not have blood on their hands, the government will. If the government wouldn't try to hide the truth from us, they wouldn't need to be doing this.
NerfDeathcoil 1 year ago
All entrepreneurs are FTW. Except the ones who lose, obviously.
PanzerDivisionBOM 1 year ago
You're a smart guy, I would never say you're not, but god damn I disagree with pretty much everything you say.
metalrox555 1 year ago
Lee, why are you parroting the lies from the pentagon?
You lose all credibility when you do that.
amagilly 1 year ago
yes, USA fight everywhere in the world for the OIL, always find a reason to invade others!!!!
mmmSS82 1 year ago
The critique against wikileaks is rather unfair. First they are distributing information that governments or other companies have suppressed, which we are supposed to value constitutionally (right to free speech, freedom of the press).
And the government has been mis-reporting information so badly, there is simply no other way of getting this information. There needs to be more independent organizations like wikileaks. Especially now with deception so broad.
sirellyn 1 year ago
@sirellyn
and now people who helped us in the war have been exposed and they will try to kill those people, really helpful isn't it.....
havocy91 1 year ago
@havocy91 So let me get this straight. People who want to kill us already (and who do so) still want to kill us. Plus transparency is introduced for bad policy which promotes more people wanting to kill us. So even if we don't change anything, we can at least see what should be changed.
Also, didn't the state department just say (for the 3rd+ time) that one was has actually been comprised by release of these documents?
sirellyn 1 year ago
@sirellyn
try telling that to a local who gave info. to US troops who will now be hunted down and killed for this
there was a better way to release this info without compromising people who would be hunted down by our enemies, this was just so damn irresponsible on wikileaks part
havocy91 1 year ago
@havocy91 Your perception of risk/value is completely askew.
You make a crazy assumption that everything the military/government does is for the best interests of the US AND US soldiers!
So endangering a soldiers life on a mission they didn't have to go for, and killing civilians they didn't have to, which raise resentment and future terrorists at people who were ordered to kill their families isn't cause for a whistleblower?
You prefer our soldiers be ignorant kamikazes?
sirellyn 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Conservative political demotivators: watch?v=Wu-3Eryt2pA
JohananRaatz 1 year ago
If you think the NY Times is telling you the truth, then you should go down there and take a swim. People are getting real sick in the Gulf Coast from oil and Corexit!
TheLionheart777 1 year ago
Do you even know what the disbursements are made from? They are made of petrochemicals. They are essentially solvents, potentially more toxic than the oil if not as toxic. The water will not be safe to consume for a very long time. PS. You should learn how to detect when a government agency or scientist is telling you pure cod shit.
bizweek1 1 year ago
Go wikileaks!
sniper6081 1 year ago
As I've heard, the oil on the water is hard to find, but its underneath the sand now.
StuffedAnimalAdvisor 1 year ago
I love wikileaks! It is important that citizens know what their governments do. However I think it is bad that those names leaked, but "secret america" is too big to hide anything. It should be a lot smaller and a lot less people with acsess to classified stuff.
Terje1337 1 year ago
Olvier Stone is great.
TrustowrthyRapist 1 year ago
THIS IS NOT DELICIOUS.
they WOULD throw vitriol on a child's face.
cassandra5322 1 year ago
is it possible that the corexit could be misleading us into thinking that the oil is disappearing?!?
iamundergrace 1 year ago
You've got to be kidding, right? The media needs to report on a lower-than-expected amount of oil on the surface for the sake of the tourism industry? Are you an idiot? Unless you have tested the water at the surface AND below the surface for MANY dangerous chemicals that are visible and NOT visible, you CANNOT assume that the water is safe. The tourism industry is NOT more important than safeguarding people from the toxic chemicals that will be present in the gulf waters for many years.
klusmanp 1 year ago
The environmentalists will still claim that the dispersed oil is "under the water", not knowing anything about the fact that oil FLOATS, they are a bag of hot air.
anikinippon 1 year ago
@anikinippon
>implying that colloids don't exist.
zantrua 1 year ago
you know this sounds like something the mainstream media can spin to give good old b.o. credit for. obama came several times to walk the beach and miraculously the oil spill gets better. not sure why they are not spinning this for the despot? / as a part of the tea party movement i can tell you that i for one do not want to be aligned with either party. yea the democrats are the worst of the two yet the republicans have yet to figure out what conservative means. / oliver stone = bigoted jerk
betty4gators 1 year ago
Oh, suddenly, when liberal women who also happen to own small businesses, see that their livelihood is threatened, they become logical and realize a "conservative," "selfish" view of the situation?
When other businesses are threatened; when Big Business uses their politicians to limit competition and throw up barriers to smaller upstarts, this is fine? but when their businesses are threatened, they lose their liberalism?
I love it when Liberalism becomes the enemy to Liberals.
captaindiesalot 1 year ago 2
there is no need to have open discussion ,there are solid facts about the Holocaust ,and all the people how want to discuss the holocaust are just antisemitic holocaust deniers
alexbmwm6 1 year ago
Thx HowTheWorldWorks for policing the likes of Annie. It's Amazing your "Cosmetics & Toxicity" analysis that people cannot see we are the safest country's regarding our personal care products. The biggest part of a companies budget is spent on R & D and protecting their consumers. I can't believe these groups think the very compnaies want to kill off their consumers with lead in lipstick. Even a 4 year old couldn't eat enough to kill them. We as consumers have been suckered for too long.
katleroy 1 year ago
After reading the conservapedia article in depth it amuses me to note that they try to subvert Kant's theory in order to come to a conclusion that is opposite of what Kant said of the subject matter. The article claims that Kant's categorical imperative is solved by lying. This is absurd, because Kant claimed you are duty-bound not to lie in any circumstance. This misrepresentation of ethics is discomforting.
hallavast 1 year ago
You are a shill. Goodbye
drabidrat08 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Yes Jews do control the media, which is the reason for the non-existent rational (and questioning) free discussion on the exaggerated Holocaust stories. Even some Hollywood directors are admitting it and noone is even denying it, finally.
"But I don't care if Americans think we're running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them." - Joel Stein
"Do Jews run Hollywood? You bet they do, and what of it?" - Ben Stein
Konev1897 1 year ago
Yes Jews do control the media, which is the reason for the non-existent rational (and questioning) free discussion on the exaggerated Holocaust stories. Even some Hollywood directors are admitting it and noone is even denying it, finally.
"But I don't care if Americans think we're running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them." - Joel Stein
"Do Jews run Hollywood? You bet they do, and what of it?" - Ben Stein
Konev1897 1 year ago
Good, it was a crappy war in the first place.
Rownery 1 year ago
@Rownery The war in Afghanistan is really the only justifiable war we had in response to 9-11. Due to the fabian tactics used by the opposition, winning over the general public is the most crucial part for winning such a war. This means we will be there for a long time. We should be familiar with the fabian tactic, its how we won our independance from Britian.
falchard 1 year ago
@falchard was*
Rownery 1 year ago
Still waiting for my climate change vid. I asked you months ago and I know you're busy but I'd really am looking forward to seeing your probing analysis and insightful logic.
cugamer 1 year ago
you do really good work. please keep it up
docbaddass 1 year ago
The oil was DISPERSED with chemicals.It is in the water,you just can't see it.
rick10is 1 year ago
2. 9/11 was mostly fallout for meddling in the Middle east in the first place, because we didn't like the people in power during the 50s. I have a sneaking suspicion that if we leave the middle east to their own devices we will be free of entanglements from there in the long run.
hallavast 1 year ago
@hallavast You over simplify, There "meddling" in the middle east had to do with the cold war, Russia, Britain and many other players before that. As far as getting out of the middle east I agree, we should cut bait, but not because its wrong. But because we have to many other problems, but in the long run the problems there will come back to haunt us but at least if we let the rest of the world deal with it they'll be on our side when we save their butts again.
Illumified 1 year ago
@Illumified It is easy to oversimplify using this medium. How many puppet dictators shall we install in the region before we're done? We claim to promote democracy for the sake fo the people. Then when democratically elected regimes come to power (Hamas), we say the people elected the wrong leaders. Then eventually we intervene and have their leaders executed when we've had enough of them (Hussein). We should have the same policy in the mideast as we should in the economy. Hands off!
hallavast 1 year ago
this Man has Class...
theshaggyshow 1 year ago
i really don't think we've seen the worst of the oil spill yet. if it seems like we're having trouble finding oil on the surface, isn't it more likely because most of it is still trapped in underwater plumes, which is what ian macdonald has been saying for weeks now?
cristoballs 1 year ago
@cristoballs
You might be right. But, from what I've read in mainstream papers, the problem is resolving itself faster than expected, and the worst result may ironically be the media panic that is destroying the tourism industry worse than the oil itself.
HowTheWorldWorks 1 year ago
@HowTheWorldWorks There were some scientist, on main stream news, (who I didnt pay much attention too), that said the oil would naturally dissipate, through solar and other effects, this was months ago and I dont remember the network, I wish I would have paid more attention now. Appreciate your Videos, Oliver Stone is a Jackass
Illumified 1 year ago
@Illumified i think i read a similar article recently. something about the temperature of the water playing a role in the dissipation of the oil. however, i believe this is based on the assumption that all the oil is collected at or near the surface of the water. as you get deeper, where plumes are likely to have formed, the water is naturally cooler for various reasons, which would make me question whether the dissipation theories are completely accurate. but yes, i agree,stone is a tool:-P
cristoballs 1 year ago
@HowTheWorldWorks how about this....since they have used so much corexit that the oil has dispersed and sank to the bottom, the loop current has been affected in ways top scientist cant even imagine yet, also the water looks clear but there is still toxic amounts there is plenty of vids on yt on the subject, the taliban is funded by our govt as well, so think about what your saying and really do some reasearch before you say anything, but i can tell already your asleep, and need to WAKE UP!!!
secretsquirrell13 1 year ago
@cristoballs Oil is non-solveable with Water. It is also very viscous and in most cases lighter then water. This means it will pool above water making it visible.
falchard 1 year ago
@falchard well, you're half right. yes, oil is less dense than water and, in most cases, will float above water. the problem you're assuming standard atmospheric conditions, where the bouyant force for the oil is greater than the pressure of water pushing down on it. however, once you get past a certain depth in water, things change, because you have a much larger amount of water pressing down than the bouyant forces of the oil that are pushing it up.
cristoballs 1 year ago
lol, this video just shows you dont research as much as you say you do in your critics videos ...
check out wikileaks on twitter ... there are links for Assange's interviews about this, so you can really talk about it
WIKILEAKS offered the opportunity for the US to censor the names of these people ... but they didnt answered
besides, until today there were no real confirmed reports about real informants that are alive ...
ltr0x 1 year ago
wait how come you have no outrage against the us goverment for paying the paki's to fund the taliban and you know what ive been over there and the fact of the matter is those people will do anyhting for money dont matter who is paying them easy to talk when you have never been over there with those people another band wagon here maybe we should charge navy seals for punching a prisoner ohh no wow
dloc231 1 year ago
@USAGymnast Because they really don't care about the enviroment, they just want to change the political and economic system in the United States.
N33DL3R 1 year ago 7
Favorite awkward verbal pause of the day: "I got alot of great responses from people who would never watch my content, small women, ..." Made me giggle.
mephamphetamine24 1 year ago
1) Kantian ethics dictate that Wikileaks are not responsible for any adverse consequenses of speaking the truth (rather that the would-be killers of those people would be).
2) It is not our job to police the world.
3) I agree that the GOP will definitely benefit from the Tea Party.
hallavast 1 year ago
@hallavast
1: X does something and Y happens because of it. Without the participation of X Y would never have occured. X is therefore directly responsable.
2: Maybe but we do need to look after our interests.
3: Possibly.
wormer104 1 year ago 3
@wormer104
1: Sure. But the X here would be the Taliban. The people who hunt down and kill these people would be the ones responsible. Classic Kant. You should read up on him sometime.
2. If you mean our trade lines and oil supply, then we have no right to those interests in the first place. If mean preventing future terrorism against us... well, there's been no shortage of those attacks being attempted on our soil even with our troops over there.
hallavast 1 year ago
@hallavast 1: If you don't know what you're hunting you can't hunt it.
It's like being told to hunt down a deer but having no clue what a deer looks like. Names offer a pinpoint target.
2: Maybe not but we won't get to use them if Iraq blows up again. In addition 9/11 was a wake-up call. That was our punishment for Clinton ignoring the threat Bin Laden represented.
To ignore it again would be stupid.
wormer104 1 year ago
@wormer104 1. This is all too true, but it has no bearing on Kantian ethics. You're arguing more of a utilitarian viewpoint. Kant's ethics are devoid of concerns about consequences, because the future is unknowable and infinite in possibilities. For example, perhaps this info leak would cause some taliban operatives to become reckless and expose themselves in pursuit of these people. Then the action would be moral because it had a good outcome.
hallavast 1 year ago
@hallavast I don't give a rat's ass about someone's ethics. If you do something that has the direct effect of injuring/killing someone you get shafted.
2: Look up "jihad".
wormer104 1 year ago
@wormer104 Lol. You don't care about ethics but you espouse your own moral standards? Fair enough, but it's no reason to not educate yourself on it. Wikipedia has the basics on Kant. Conservapedia has an abbreviated version if you prefer that.
2. Jihad is an arabic word for struggle that refers to the "religious duty" of Muslims. The context I think you refer to is an abberant perversion of the intent of "jihad"; which is a specific (imagined) duty to blow up infidels. Which follows that...
hallavast 1 year ago
@hallavast No actually. It's fairly simple. If you do X and it directly and realisticly leads to X which causes Z to come to harm you are responsable for Z being harmed.
Released intel including the names of our aid/their enemies > jihadists being pissed > the owners of the names being killed.
The terrorists have declared it their duty to off us. How it means in general in the face of their meaning is meaningless.
wormer104 1 year ago
@wormer104 If you don't care about what Kant's ethics are, then I don't care about your moral code. See how that works? It's called moral relativism, and if you discard the philosophy of Kant (an important historical philosopher) willy nilly without even reading it, then why should I listen to your own argument? Here's a counter example of what COULD happen... Hint: if you read Kant, you might see why basing morality on consequenses might not be sound all the time....
hallavast 1 year ago
@wormer104 Released intel including names of their enemies > jihadists being pissed > the jihadists fouling up an assassination attempt > the terrorists being captured > victory.
In this scenario, the outcome was a good thing. So would the guy that listed the names be responsible for this "good deed"? According to your logic (a utilitarian view), yes. Seems kinda absurd when you judge everything this way. The journalist is duty-bound to report the truth. That's my point. and Kant's.
hallavast 1 year ago
@hallavast No it wouldn't becauase it wasn't his risk to take. He would lose nothing reardless of the outcome.
Now if he agreed to get his head removed -with a dull ax- if they were hurt it would be different...but he didn't and he won't. His kind never do.
Years ago to be gay mean't to be happy. Now it's common meaning is dominant which is a far-cry from happy. What jihad meant before is no longer relevant. What it's common meaning now does.
wormer104 1 year ago
@hallavast Let me be blunt.
It isn't his risk to take. Never was. He like the other activists just want to push an agenda. That's it. He's no journalist. He's an activist. His reckless behaviour puts others at risk and he doesn't care so long as HIS point gets across.
If he wants to bust secrets so much he should do it to his own government and keep his beak out of American concerns.
wormer104 1 year ago
@wormer104 Let's put your second problem into a different context: if a white supremicist christian church decides to warp the meaning of blasphemy to include "associating with non-whites", would you take offense at the perversion? Same thing happens with Muslims and the word "Jihad". If you want to discuss the perverted meaning of jihad, please be more direct instead of asking me if i know what the word means.
hallavast 1 year ago
Oliver Stone also said that "Hitler was misunderstood."
andyandymax 1 year ago
Afghanistan is none of our business. We need to get the fuck out of there, Iraq, Pakistan, and everywhere else.
KagarBeardtooth 1 year ago 2
The Tea Party lost me when they joined up with GOP & adopted Palin. I was looking for a viable alternative 3rd party, not an arm of one of the entrenched power factions. F the Democrats & Republicans.
Because Stone supports the Tear Down America movement.
drreedindeed 1 year ago
@drreedindeed You're lying to yourself if you would rather have an Independent in the office. More times than not independents lean left. Most undecided voters vote left. If you protest the democrats in power, it's only logical to support to put a republican in instead.
bsharker 1 year ago
"Today is July 28, 2010, and here's what's in the news today. In other news..."
4gl2u 1 year ago 15
2:46 - 'bout F-ing time. The Tea Party is simply an arm of the GOP anyway, and represents an extreme right wing view.
The Dems need to make a serous effort to attach the GOP candidates too their extremists.
That Bohner clip where he refers to the economic downturn as an Ant needs to run every hour, on every TV network from labor day, to Nov 1st.
17R3W 1 year ago
@17R3W My local Tea Party group is majority republican, but there are also Libertarians (me), Democrats, and even some Anarchists. We all unite under the theme that we aren’t living in the America that the founders gifted us with. They gave us rules and laws designed to defend our liberty and they must be enforced regardless of gender, skin color, social class, or sexual preference. Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!
TaldrenDR 1 year ago 3
@TaldrenDR
Fair point. But let me ask you this;
How many of those people voted for the President last time, and how many would vote for him next time?
If the Democrats ran "against" the tea party, how many votes would they lose?
17R3W 1 year ago
Its not cleaning up faster than we thought that's complete bullshit. we sprayed so many damn dispersants and now the oil is suspended at neutral buoyancy or straight up sank to the bottom where it can enter the food chain for decades. try going down there and jumping in. its like swimming in diesel fuel you come out all greasy. just because u don't "see" it on the surface doesn't mean everything's all better... that's exactly what they want u to think, y do u think they used dispersants
smkymcnugget420 1 year ago 3
@smkymcnugget420
Thank you! I was little "pissed" when HowTheWorldWorks said that.
17R3W 1 year ago
@17R3W A little pissed? I actually palm faced when I heard him say that.
Anyone who knows a bit about how oil behaves in water (and the methods we use to combat spills) knows that if you don't see oil on the surface it doesn't mean that there is no more oil in the water column or on the sea floor.
So Lee, I've said it before, and I'll say it again: fact check your claims.
CollinMaessen 1 year ago
@CollinMaessen
he's getting his facts from scientists from NOAA & NASA.... that were hired by Clinton.... fact check yourself.
alwaysending 1 year ago
@alwaysending Let's quote NOAA from the NYT article on which Lee's source is based upon:
“Less oil on the surface does not mean that there isn’t oil beneath the surface, however, or that our beaches and marshes are not still at risk,” Jane Lubchenco, administrator of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, said in a briefing on Tuesday. “We are extremely concerned about the short-term and long-term impacts to the gulf ecosystem.”
Yeah, I really have to fact check myself....
CollinMaessen 1 year ago 2
@CollinMaessen
Lee nor myself ever said ALL the oil was gone, or that there was no need of concern. We simply stated that 40% of the oil has naturally dissipated.
And you FIRST attempted to wrangle him on even stating that the oil was naturally displacing, then you come out and agree (without stating so, but basing your quotations on the same article that he read while cutting out the part of the 40% gone) with this...
alwaysending 1 year ago
@alwaysending Lee said it seems to be cleaning up faster and no oil on the surface is found anymore. And the media should stop saying it's dangerous to swim.
My entire point is that you should be very careful with such statements/impressions. As oil can go below the surface easily and there can still be enough toxins in the weather to make it not healhty to swim.
The 40% is the more volatile compounds, the tar balls are still there (and they can be very nasty, hence NOAA's statement).
CollinMaessen 1 year ago
I have got nothing against Jewish people. I do, however, have a HUGE problem with Zionists and Jews who lie to themselves and others, telling themselves that the genocide and atrocities Israel commits on a daily basis against their own countrymen (Palestinians) is anything less than completely immoral and disgusting, tell themselves their use of violence to enforce a blockade is okay, and have the audacity to purposely get the USA involved as a meat shield. Israel is NOT our friend.
chuska8383 1 year ago
@chuska8383 why dont you go strap bombs on yourself and blow up an Israeli market or something.
fakiir 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@fakiir You are a complete idiot.
chuska8383 1 year ago
Go swimming in the oil and your life expectancy will drop to 51 just like the Valdez cleanup workers. They're all dead now.
And oh no the drug trafficking racket is in jeopardy! Boohoo!
Lee Doren really kills himself with some of his BS
podrag 1 year ago
Okey to begin.. i like most of your videos. They are very good. But i think you should do a bit more research before sending your viewers swimming. Because it was a massive oil spill. And if the oil is no longer visible on the top of the water... it probably means that PB put it a massive amount of dispersant an the water. Which makes the oil mix the water. It will also get diluted which makes it no longer visible. But all the sea in that area will be poisoned. So it is still very dangerous
Boehoehuahoei 1 year ago
I think the goal Wikileaks serves, by providing a platform to expose government and corporate corruption is very important, but yeah, this time, with a leak that could endanger people in the hands of the Taliban, they indeed acted very irresponsibly and should be called on it.
Akatam0t0ma 1 year ago
Lee, you don't live close to the gulf do you?
Let me tell you whats happening. When it rains here, the rain smells like a solvent, and it turns our grass yellow. This isn't normal. I hope you are right about a quick clean up, but the methods they are using, with the corexit, may be already causing long term environmental effects to places far inland of the coast.
st0rmraven 1 year ago 2
oh yeah - attacking jews and jewish rights is trendy and fashionable. newspapers don't consider it news. many people jews are too afraid to give oliver stone a soapbox because it would just bring more attention to hollywood and israel.
in the end jews dont kill their critics. journalists compare israel to nazy germany on a routine basis and get awarded for it. it's a waste of air to be outraged by moral idiots like stone.
ImNeilPatrickHarris 1 year ago
lee - i have a tough time buying your libertarian platform when you support both the afghanistan and iraq war. the wikileaks simply tell us what the media refused - our military has failed to live up to its standards and has covered up blatant war crimes.
if this was israel the whole world would be in a frenzy. but when obama's in charge...silence.
ImNeilPatrickHarris 1 year ago 3
@ImNeilPatrickHarris So you can't be libertarian and support the fight against extremist Islam, which is anti-liberty as you can get? I'd like it if we could tell the rest of the world to go hang, but news flash--we live in a real world, where that's impossible.
TMorrowAZ 1 year ago
@ImNeilPatrickHarris
And I have a tough time believing that you're Neil Patrick Harris. I don't know where you get off bashing anybody for being fake about anything.
groupthinker1984 1 year ago
Can you make a video that's just about wikileaks?
wareya 1 year ago
bah i thought he was gonna diss some female entrepreneurs, that would have been fun... :P
JonasFrimodt 1 year ago
I don't understand how can you say things like "wikileaks will have blood in their hands" as something disgusting when all this time the military has had blood in their hands.
I'm agnostic about the work of wikileaks, because it is absolutely politically motivated but they had also released many misbehaviors and mistreatment covered up by the government, but what I'm sure of is that the US should not be in Afghanistan, and that US military interventionism is bullshit.
Yetanotherytuser 1 year ago
Come on Lee, there are probably 6 democrat-voting-tea-partiers nationwide.
npeffer 1 year ago
Interesting dilemma with wikileaks. Freedom of speech is good, but getting people killed isn't.
shchpendrop 1 year ago
Is is possible for be critical of Israel and not be antisemitic? I have a neighbor, who never actually said this but gives the impression, that criticism of Israel and antisemitism are one and the same
WorldAccording2ME 1 year ago
@WorldAccording2ME It's not that critics of Israel are automatically antisemitic, it's that it's almost impossible to distinguish the real critics from the bigots. You go onto any university campus and you'll find your share of protests, but it's only the protests against Israel that actually get violent---shouting down Jewish students, cornering them, etc. I sincerely doubt that there are any anti-Zionist groups out there that don't have at least some bigots pulling their strings.
smiledammit24 1 year ago
Its very rare to hear an argument in favor of entrepreneurs. Ayn Rand would be proud of the feedback on your Critique.
liltimy1850 1 year ago
Lee, the diplomatic cables were censored and redacted to the protect the identities of people who might be endangered by their release. Your vicious and hypocritical attack on whistleblowers and so-called intelligence "leaks" is anti-democratic and dangerous to a free and open society. The question is not why Wikileaks released the information, the question is whether the US is best served by truth and openness, or deception and secrecy. I think the question has already been answered.
littlebier8 1 year ago
One other thing, good point with the tea party. I admit I was against it at first, but I realize I was wrong, and the movement has potential. I may not agree with everything they do, but at least they're trying.
The1onTV 1 year ago
I thought we couldn't trust abc and the NYT. Those liberals are just saying there's no oil because obama is a socialist and his energy czar makes false accusations that, um, do other not fictional things.
In all seriousness, I'm torn on the wikileaks thing. Yes, there are risks, but their purpose is to indiscriminately protect the freedom of information, and I do think it's hard to make a blanket statement on that issue.
The1onTV 1 year ago
hmmm re: argument against wikileaks. I for one am glad the world now knows that the ISI is funding the taliban. please note that the american government gives 15 billion $ of aid to pakistan yearly, much of it going to the ISI.
cankorgbr 1 year ago
Are you really so naive to believe the oil is just "going away"?????
BMWg84 1 year ago
@BMWg84 Oil can evaporate? WHO KNEW?
quarantine94 1 year ago
@BMWg84 there are bacterias that break down the oil and other such things happening...it's not naivety it's science pal
dirksilver 1 year ago
@dirksilver
You obviously know very little. This oil is going to naturally disappear quickly. Go read about the Exxon Valdez spill and other historical oceanic oil spills. Especially the environmental impacts and how we are still dealing with them decades later.
BMWg84 1 year ago
Dude, did you actually look at the content of this leak. Where is your disgust for the civilians killed by our troops, by drones and by the CIA? You feel sorry for paid informants and not for dead civilians. Give me a break.
tumbleweedjoe 1 year ago
There's nothing disgusting about hampering the goals of the American empire.
Fetchdafish 1 year ago
Good for you. Seriously, good for you.
Smackimation 1 year ago
Tainting the tea party movement with the charge of racism is proving to be an effective strategy for Democrats. There is no evidence that tea party adherents are any more racist than other Republicans, and indeed many other Americans. But getting them to spend their time purging their ranks and having candidates distance themselves should help Democrats win in November. Having one’s opponent rebut charges of racism is far better than discussing joblessness.
-Mary F. Berry
Idiot Liberals!
robm425 1 year ago
I'm sorry, if I ever have the displeasure of being in the presence of Mr Wikilinks, I couldn't avoid breaking him permanently out of insane rage ... I really hate scum bags like that. You don't even wanna know whats going through my head
omegahpla 1 year ago
Lee,
Have you watched Meltup yet? Almost 700,000 views in 2 weeks. I was wondering your thoughts on it?
troybr79 1 year ago
Shame on wikileaks. I hope in the future they have more common sense. They should have blacked out the people's names.
Rajaat99 1 year ago
Obama, Pelosi and Reid are the leaders of the Democratic Party. Individuals who align with the principles of the the "Tea Party" are anti-Obama, Pelosi and Reid.
TonyUnplugged 1 year ago
DEBATE DEBATE DEBATE THE SOB ABOUT COSMETICS
MirageScience 1 year ago
THEY SANK THE SHIT
MirageScience 1 year ago
Comment removed
chainzdown2dadik 1 year ago
Comment removed
chainzdown2dadik 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
tyler durden would be grateful.
chainzdown2dadik 1 year ago
oil can still be easily found from that tanker 20 years ago. However its not a lot . but it has hurt some animals making them sick even till this day . Why do people hate jews so much? I really dont see why . i am not a huge fan of the jewish community . But i don't want to see them all die .
jordler 1 year ago
@jordler "Why do people hate jews so much?"
What would that have to do with the topics raised here?
hitssquad 1 year ago
@hitssquad
he talked about that dudes racist rant
jordler 1 year ago
@jordler "that dudes"
The Jewish film director?
hitssquad 1 year ago
Oliver Stone is a putz.
icychap 1 year ago
I really hope that the gov doesn't respond to the wikileaks thing by licensing the press or something like that. Drinkingwithbob brought that up and that is a really scary though. The press is saying wikileaks did a bad thing, but I disagree. While lee does discuss a down side, the American gov has no right to keep so many secrets. Didn't JFK say the word secrecy is repugnant in a free society? We need OPEN, TRANSPARENT government, not secrecy. Look for inet regulation... Now thats REPUGNANT!
christo930 1 year ago
The gulf is an absolute MESS. I sub to tedtalks and there was a video that came out just yesterday talking about how bad it is, how the dispersant makes the oil more toxic and how these poisons make it through the food chain, from the plankton, to plankton feeders to the larger fish that eat them. Check out watch?v=PtMFL2ViM-c she isn't a liberal activist, just a toxicologist that specializes in the gulf of Mexico (If I recall correctly). I am happy for what little good news tere is, but come on
christo930 1 year ago
way to brag at the beginning faggoh
RaabBlog 1 year ago
lol, so if the 'spy's in afganistan get murdered by the taliban than wikkileaks will have blood on their hands? haha how about the american government who got them involved in the first place? how about them, who invated afganistan and made all sorts of hourse shit excuses to justify slaughter? or how about about the taliban who would actually the ones initiating the violence? geezes
pelucas716 1 year ago
@pelucas716 yet you're probably all assed up & Carl Rove over the Plame thing when she wasn't covert, they knew there was no crime & they knew Sinunu who hated Bush was the actual leak ... but just investigated for 3 years knowing there was nothing to investigate on what they knew was a none crime ... but lets just assume you're not that kind of idiot
You still have your head all twisted up ... HOW ABOUT DICK! Regardless, Wikileakes exposed operatives knowing it could get them killed! IDIOT!
omegahpla 1 year ago
@omegahpla hah uhm what?n i honestly understoond nothing of what u just said, i really doubt that u understand it either, what i also dont get is where tha heck all this aggression is comming from. did u i insult u in any way? idk. i would ask my self that if i was u. either way w.e dont really feel like debating over this. if ur realy interested in politics, check out stefbot on youtube, that might feed that uhm, craving of yours. peaze
pelucas716 1 year ago
@pelucas716 Of course you didn't understand what I just said, you're an idiot. You don't know about Plame, and you don't know enough to understand that prick outed sources working against the Taliban and they will be killed eventually if they stay, and there is a good chance it will be quick.
You want to blame the US for being there in the first place, because you are an idiot, you couldn't carry a decent conversation on this, so you should probably shut your stupid face, but you probably wont
omegahpla 1 year ago 3
where do you primarily get your news?
rightistheright 1 year ago
Wikileaks Editor in Chief Julian Assange cannot be held accountable until after he/she has completed the full surgery for gender change. That would just be cruel, as he/she is obviously very confused as to right wrong, good bad, up down et al.
Does anyone know if Julian is going from male to female or from female to male? Seriously, the name is not helping nor is the hair.
*/Snarkoff*
Julian is just a piece of SH@T!
TiamoInfidels 1 year ago
@TiamoInfidels "Wikileaks Editor in Chief Julian Assange cannot be held accountable until after he/she has completed the full surgery for gender change."
Do you mean Bradley Manning?
google. com/search?q=bradley+manning+transexual
hitssquad 1 year ago
Bradley Manning is the Traitor who should in reality be Hanged for his Crimes of Espionage. Julian Assange, or as we affectionately call him here, the big J ASS, is the tranny who published the docs. They both have Blood on their Hands and I hope they both pay the ultimate price for it.
TiamoInfidels 1 year ago
@TiamoInfidels "Julian Assange [...] is the tranny who published the docs."
You seem to have Assange confused with Manning. There are myriad sources confirming Manning's transexuality. How did you get the idea Assange was a transexual?
hitssquad 1 year ago
@hitssquad have you seen J ASS's photo? You have no gaydar at all? Jeezuz man Manning is your basic gay man. Nothing more and certainly less since he seems to have a real problem with rejection. J ASS is just your basic SHIM. She/male. Just look a a photo and then you will know what I am talking about.
TiamoInfidels 1 year ago
Wikileaks will have blood on their hands, you have got to be kidding me.
I am sure you have seen Collateral Murder its war and it's is a bloody and murderous business and I stress business because we all know the real reasons why American invaded Iraq and Afghanistan.
So that people like you can sit comfortable warm and well fed in a country that has 5% of the worlds population and consumes 25% of the worlds oil.
If you want to see who has blood on their hands look in the mirror.
corexitcrimes 1 year ago
@corexitcrimes Your doing the same thing you hypocritic retard.
LEFT4BASS 1 year ago
lol, argument against wikileaks. you gotta hate the neocon in this guy.
Decentralism 1 year ago
@Decentralism
The wikileaks put American soldiers lives - including my brothers life - in unnecessary danger. That is not a neocon argument. It is an American argument. I don't care what your position on the war is. You DON'T publish classified data against our military.
Eterna1Soldier 1 year ago
@Eterna1Soldier lol @ "our military". "your" military put your brothers life in unnecessary danger. LOL! @ "american argument"...geeze even arguments are nationalized now?
If anything you should blame this on the military since it was the military that put it on wikileaks. whats that? oh, you only attribute some actions taken by individual soldiers to be "actions of the military"? arbitrary line, my friend.
Decentralism 1 year ago
Anytime the government passes a law saying it's to protect the consumer, the truth is the law is designed to put the smallest competition out of business.
Then they come back every few years to wipe out the next smallest.
Buffalo122333 1 year ago
OOPS4U2CNOW 1 year ago
I don't care who controls Afghanistan. 70% of them are illiterate and they haven't figured out indoor plumbing. They don't even recognize Afghanistan as a single country. They don't draw the lines on the map the same way the West does. If one thing comes out of this Wikileaks fiasco it better be that we no longer give billions to Pakistan so they can fund people who kill U.S. troops. The world divides politically into those who want to control people and those that have no such desire.
TheMobocracy 1 year ago
u dum ass u think u know it all the world is at a end as we know it .
ps3slaughter 1 year ago
I left a comment with a link to a holocaust denial video for Lee to debunk and now it is gone.
dhimmi099 1 year ago
@dhimmi099
Youtube doesn't allow comments with links. If it's on YT, just copy that url part after the "com/" where it says "watch".
Eterna1Soldier 1 year ago
@Eterna1Soldier That is exactly what I did. In any case here is the video I was referring to.
watch?v=ts6GjWnGpyQ
dhimmi099 1 year ago
the guy that leaked the info should be dishonorably discharged
musicMan1445 1 year ago
@Vid
Who know's how people will vote, but here is what I do know. I read an article about my Congressman, Hal Rogers, supporting some stupid 5 million dollars... for cheetahs or something. I don't know the full story I just caught an article today when I was glancing at a newspaper.
Freaking ridiculous.
MRSketch09 1 year ago
lol BP has great PR. The oil isn't gone, it was just dispersed. I wouldn't trust an obviously agenda-driven news source like the New York Times.
riethc 1 year ago
this guy is a government agent....
toddholladay 1 year ago
I think the truth needs to come out regardless of who gets hurt. Many innocent people die in wars and everyone should know exactly how many people are being killed in order to have an informed opinion on if they should or should not support the war . If you believe that the truth needs to be controlled by a "privileged" group of people that will take the responsibility of deciding about the worthiness of the war away from those who finance it, I must disagree with your "logic". Big fail bro.
truefictions 1 year ago
While I personally think the Tea party is sorely misguided, trying to link normal citizens who are trying to promote libertarian and conservative ideals to a bunch of corporatists is a terrible strategy. I don't wanna see the GOP get more votes, but the Democrats aren't a much better option, and their political strategy blows.
At this point, politics has become a battle of deciding who's the lesser of the 2 evils. Something's gotta give.
MegashadX 1 year ago
How about the oil underneath the surface?
Any time I've tried talking to someone who claimed to be apart of the tea party, they were definitely not liberal, so I'm not sure that the Dems are blowing off too many potential votes by saying that the tea party is conservative.
Not many people know what Oliver Stone does. Mel Gibson is one of the most recognizable faces in America.
ToTheConquered 1 year ago
˙uʍop ǝpısdn sı sıɥʇ 'ɐɥɐɥɐɥɐɥɐɥɐɥ
Yyyyzyyy 1 year ago
Nice hair cut. Keep it like that.
TimeWarp66 1 year ago
Well, Stone's got a point. The focus is always given to the Jews in the holocaust. No one focuses on other 11 million non-Jewish holocaust deaths. My grandma was in a work camp because she was Latvian.
DoomHippie 1 year ago
@DoomHippie True. Not to diminish the horror of the Holocaust, but Hitler wasn't the biggest mass murderer by far. Soviet Socialist Republic leader Stalin was responsible for more than 10 million deaths. Mao of China killed more than Stalin. Is it any wonder people aroud the world love marxism and socialism? (kidding) Most Jews in this country are libtards who want another go with socialism. Will it be good to them? Not.
averagejoe040 1 year ago
@DoomHippie The holocaust was the death of 12 million people, that includes gypsies, homosexuals, blacks, jehova's witnesses, communists and other so called "undersireables". But again, half of those were jewish, and jews not only had no land to emmigrate to protect themselves, but they also had no guns of their own which would have saved their asses or minimized deaths. Jews were the main target and the most affected, so that's why there is emphasis on them.
bootsielon 1 year ago
@bootsielon
Well, if you think that the Jews deserve some sort of special emphasis because they had the "most" deaths, I question why we never talk about Stalin's Purges, which killed far more people then the Holocaust ever did. If we go by numbers, our textbooks should focus on this. The reason we don't, is that Stalin was our ally at the time and Hitler was the enemy. Therefore, we emphasize our enemies atrocities, and downsize that of our then-ally's.
DoomHippie 1 year ago
@DoomHippie No. The holocaust is emphasized more because Jews as a group of people lost more of their own, proportionally speaking. Furthermore, the Jews were targetted solely because they were born jews, not because they were dissidents, so there was no way the jews could have defended themselves or done something about it. Even more, the holocaust was not the only massacre the jews have lived, so adding to that 2000 years of persecution and well, that's the reason there is more emphasis.
bootsielon 1 year ago
@bootsielon
Oh, so I suppose you're implying that the gays, gypsies, ethnic slavs, and the disabled were not born with there condition that made them targets? Proportionally speaking, I think the disabled lost the highest percentage, and the sadistic experiments that they were put through were probably the worst in the entire Holocaust. And the Slavs and Gypsies had similar persecution throughout all of history (the word "slave" comes from "Slav").
DoomHippie 1 year ago
@bootsielon
I just think it's rather sick that the Jewish experience gets all the recognition. I have never even heard of a movie or book that focused on the stories of any of the eleven million non-Jewish holocaust victims. I find it strange that whole chapters of school textbooks are devoted to explaining the atrocities that the Jews went through, while the others who died end up at the end of the chapter, in a single paragraph, as if a afterthought.
DoomHippie 1 year ago