Awesome car, man. The smallblock/4-speed combo is the coolest in all of NHRA in my opinion. I see you're running cal tracs (well, more or less every stocker does I guess), yet you seem to spin the tires pretty good. Was the track bad or do you want it to spin that much?
the chevy 302 was produced to comply with the SCCA rules. the 302 was designed that way from the factory, no changes were internally made after race teams received the cars. and there were two different set ups for those cars. they came in either a winters hi rise aluminum intake with a holley or the most sought after set up which came with a winters cross-ram intake with two holley carbs and a teardrop air cleaner and also came with a fiberglass hood that would work with the cross-ram setup.
sorry, you are wrong, a destroked motor is one in which the factory configuration has the stroke shortened. this was once popular in nascar to build engines with higher rpm range, no one is comparing it to a ford 302, which incidently , had a 3 inch stroke, exactly the same as the chev 302, and the same bore, to comply with Trans Am class rules.
Ok dumbasses, which is what all of you are. I took that info straight off of the Wiki page, correlated with SCCA and NCOA (National Camaro Owners of America) Get YOUR facts str8, ass-clowns. Oh, and btw, I was 5 when these cars were made, so shove that "kid' comment up your ass.
@MrJumpman91 a 302 is a ford motor. a 305 is a chevy motor. same thing just they can't copy each other. i'm glad somebody had the brains to put a ford motor in a chevy car.
@rouletteroller yes Ford has a 302. GM also built a 302, it was put in some 69 Z28s. and if someone put a Ford motor in a Chevy they'd have NO BRAINS.
@rouletteroller Chevrolet produced the 302 small block in 1967,68and 69 and it was only availible in the Z/28 do an little research before proving youself a fool.
@rouletteroller wow ...the only good 302 ever produced was in a chevy...chevys are junk?...thats why every1 is swapping out their chevy engines and putting in a ford one..o thats right no1 is dumb enough to do that...thats why every one is taking out the cummins and putting in a powerstroke......o wait. no one does that either
@Chevypower265 Are you retarded or what?? Chevy didn't sell Ford a 302... the Ford 302 is a direct descendent of the Ford Windsor series engines from 1962! Here, wiki it for yourself...
@conrynsilverleaf65 You do realize I was making a joke about that?? Yes I've read that. But since this guy didn't even think Chevy had a 302 I was seeing if he would follow up with a "Mr know it all" answer, and while doing so, making an ass of himself...
@MrJumpman91 A Chevy 302 is about 3 times the engine a 305 is. Although, you can add parts to the 305 to make it just as tough. The Chevy 302 naturally aspirated was a raw little revving beast. Capable of 7,000RPMS from the factory.
If we're talking race car, all values and equations are consistent. If it's a a street / strip type car, then there are always compromises and the true ET potential is very difficult to meet against the MPH. Power adders will alter everything.
I have been #1 qualifier in NHRA Stock Eliminator, Class winner in both Stock & Super Stock and numerous National records. I'm not here to brag, I would like you to understand that there is a lot of ET left on the table with your car.
Your MPH of 133.9 MPH should be a 9.86 ET. I had a race car previously that ran similar MPH. It's best was 133.66. 1320/133.66 = 9.88 ET. My best ET was 9.93 or .05 slower than optimum. As the car was not NHRA certified to run faster than 10.00, I didn't try any improvements to lower the ET.
If you have the wrong gear, like not enough, the true MPH potential will not be met because you will not run at near or peak HP in high gear.
Clutch: there may be things like a driver jerking the wheel while shifting or many other factors. But this car is spinning the tires on gear change which can cause it to move around. I can tell by listening to the launch there is too much base pressure and / or too heavy a clutch assembly and it's pulling the engine down too much. These same issues will cause the suspension to react violently and cause the tires to spin & car to move around. But yes, there can be other factors.
Answer: HP makes MPH. That's it. MPH is is measured over a known distance and it taxes "x" amount of HP to make a certain MPH. The equation I use is 1320 / MPH = optimum ET. Optimum is the key word as there are variables that will alter the ET. But if you have a poor fuel system, for instance, you will make less HP and less ET that a properly running fuel system. Gearing will affect ET but gearing if too steep, will kill MPH as the HP is out of breath.
Too much clutch. You can tell by the amount it pulls the engine down on the launch. Also looks like too much clutch is causing wheel spin on gear changes, that's at least one reason why it doesn't run straight down the track. 125.8 MPH and you should be in the 10.40's, not 10.80's.
@superstockamx Theres a number of reasons it may not be running straight down the track and the clutch isn't necessarily it. Also,how can you judge what ET he should be running from that MPH? So if it runs a 10.80 with a 4.88 gear it's going to run the same MPH at a 10.80 with a 3.73 or 4.10 gear? No it's not. 10.40's at only 125.8 MPH? Really? I ran a 10.29 @133.9MPH in my Camaro.If i go by your theory i should have only been in the high 128MPh range.
I am really loving this 'maro. Is it naturally aspirated, or are you spraying??? full interior? and what AFR heads you running- and @ .050 duration / lsa on the cam?
tubbed w/ 12 bolt chevy 4:88's art morrision coil overs and ladder bars but no slicks yet. ive got a set 5:13's and a 4 speed i need to put in. right now im running a t-350. automatic behind a stick motor just dont work!
Ya it's a little motor. Just not stock. Big roller cam, alum. heads, etc..... This run we had too much static pressure in the new clutch set up. Spun tire's bad on the line. 6800 rpm launch, shift between 8000-8200
wow A FUCKING 302 that almost does a wheelie!
SuperChevyman98 5 days ago
I was wrong,not a 301 but a 303.
1969 ramairV 8000rpm only around 250 made.
STEVEM730 1 month ago
Didnt pontiac build a 301 for the 69 trans am?
cant find nothing about this motor
STEVEM730 1 month ago
yes 301 american block
rockcrusherrevived 1 month ago
Awesome car, man. The smallblock/4-speed combo is the coolest in all of NHRA in my opinion. I see you're running cal tracs (well, more or less every stocker does I guess), yet you seem to spin the tires pretty good. Was the track bad or do you want it to spin that much?
strittan 1 month ago
This guy needs to learn how to hold the steering wheel straight.
LS6CamaroA4 2 months ago
the chevy 302 was produced to comply with the SCCA rules. the 302 was designed that way from the factory, no changes were internally made after race teams received the cars. and there were two different set ups for those cars. they came in either a winters hi rise aluminum intake with a holley or the most sought after set up which came with a winters cross-ram intake with two holley carbs and a teardrop air cleaner and also came with a fiberglass hood that would work with the cross-ram setup.
mvasquez1984 3 months ago
@01dSk00L
sorry, you are wrong, a destroked motor is one in which the factory configuration has the stroke shortened. this was once popular in nascar to build engines with higher rpm range, no one is comparing it to a ford 302, which incidently , had a 3 inch stroke, exactly the same as the chev 302, and the same bore, to comply with Trans Am class rules.
aminimaleffort 3 months ago
Ok dumbasses, which is what all of you are. I took that info straight off of the Wiki page, correlated with SCCA and NCOA (National Camaro Owners of America) Get YOUR facts str8, ass-clowns. Oh, and btw, I was 5 when these cars were made, so shove that "kid' comment up your ass.
conrynsilverleaf65 3 months ago
@01dSk00L
it is not destroked, that is exactly the way it was made.
aminimaleffort 3 months ago
Damn!!!
MrMopar400 4 months ago
Needs a longer burnout then it will see about 3 tenths faster ET!
sav300 6 months ago
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@sav300
yah, you are the expert.
aminimaleffort 3 months ago
is a 302 smaller than a 305? is a 305 worth fixing up...?
MrJumpman91 6 months ago
@MrJumpman91 a 302 is a ford motor. a 305 is a chevy motor. same thing just they can't copy each other. i'm glad somebody had the brains to put a ford motor in a chevy car.
rouletteroller 6 months ago
@rouletteroller yes Ford has a 302. GM also built a 302, it was put in some 69 Z28s. and if someone put a Ford motor in a Chevy they'd have NO BRAINS.
mudslinger366 6 months ago
@rouletteroller chevy did not produce a 302..they produced a 305 only. and chevys are all around junk. gm needs to just hang it up.
rouletteroller 6 months ago
@rouletteroller Chevrolet produced the 302 small block in 1967,68and 69 and it was only availible in the Z/28 do an little research before proving youself a fool.
cad47270 6 months ago
@rouletteroller wow ...the only good 302 ever produced was in a chevy...chevys are junk?...thats why every1 is swapping out their chevy engines and putting in a ford one..o thats right no1 is dumb enough to do that...thats why every one is taking out the cummins and putting in a powerstroke......o wait. no one does that either
randombk82894 6 months ago
@rouletteroller wrong!!! do some research, they did make 302s, why does my neighbor have a MATCHING NUMBERS 69 z28 302???
yzkx711 6 months ago
@rouletteroller lol. i think you better hang it up. 5 minutes on your computer will make you realize how much you really do not know about GM.
camarocrazy100 6 months ago
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Chevypower265 5 months ago
@Chevypower265 Are you retarded or what?? Chevy didn't sell Ford a 302... the Ford 302 is a direct descendent of the Ford Windsor series engines from 1962! Here, wiki it for yourself...
conrynsilverleaf65 4 months ago
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@conrynsilverleaf65 You do realize I was making a joke about that?? Yes I've read that. But since this guy didn't even think Chevy had a 302 I was seeing if he would follow up with a "Mr know it all" answer, and while doing so, making an ass of himself...
Chevypower265 4 months ago
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Chevypower265 5 months ago
@rouletteroller OMG, and it's an engine NOT a moter. Yes Virgina, Chevrolet really did produce a 302
largedisplacement 5 months ago
@MrJumpman91 A Chevy 302 is about 3 times the engine a 305 is. Although, you can add parts to the 305 to make it just as tough. The Chevy 302 naturally aspirated was a raw little revving beast. Capable of 7,000RPMS from the factory.
drpepper350 5 months ago
10.8
Dang
elr456 7 months ago
Friggen well done man, wicked!!!
butler365 7 months ago
Bootman2K -
If we're talking race car, all values and equations are consistent. If it's a a street / strip type car, then there are always compromises and the true ET potential is very difficult to meet against the MPH. Power adders will alter everything.
I have been #1 qualifier in NHRA Stock Eliminator, Class winner in both Stock & Super Stock and numerous National records. I'm not here to brag, I would like you to understand that there is a lot of ET left on the table with your car.
superstockamx 7 months ago
@superstockamx
talking internet shit now!
aminimaleffort 3 months ago
Bootman2K -
Your MPH of 133.9 MPH should be a 9.86 ET. I had a race car previously that ran similar MPH. It's best was 133.66. 1320/133.66 = 9.88 ET. My best ET was 9.93 or .05 slower than optimum. As the car was not NHRA certified to run faster than 10.00, I didn't try any improvements to lower the ET.
If you have the wrong gear, like not enough, the true MPH potential will not be met because you will not run at near or peak HP in high gear.
superstockamx 7 months ago
Bootman 2K
Clutch: there may be things like a driver jerking the wheel while shifting or many other factors. But this car is spinning the tires on gear change which can cause it to move around. I can tell by listening to the launch there is too much base pressure and / or too heavy a clutch assembly and it's pulling the engine down too much. These same issues will cause the suspension to react violently and cause the tires to spin & car to move around. But yes, there can be other factors.
superstockamx 7 months ago
@superstockamx
he missed 2nd gear moron.
aminimaleffort 3 months ago
Bootman2K -
Answer: HP makes MPH. That's it. MPH is is measured over a known distance and it taxes "x" amount of HP to make a certain MPH. The equation I use is 1320 / MPH = optimum ET. Optimum is the key word as there are variables that will alter the ET. But if you have a poor fuel system, for instance, you will make less HP and less ET that a properly running fuel system. Gearing will affect ET but gearing if too steep, will kill MPH as the HP is out of breath.
superstockamx 7 months ago
he should just go drift if his going to run his program like that
TrackingPerformance 8 months ago
Air Flow Research.....nuff said.
5150jafo 9 months ago
sweet ride!! they ask you to put in a roll bar yet?
502c10 9 months ago
NICE!!
carsbyjeff 9 months ago
What size wheels and tires are you running on the back?
tyler69z28 10 months ago
Too much clutch. You can tell by the amount it pulls the engine down on the launch. Also looks like too much clutch is causing wheel spin on gear changes, that's at least one reason why it doesn't run straight down the track. 125.8 MPH and you should be in the 10.40's, not 10.80's.
superstockamx 10 months ago
@superstockamx Theres a number of reasons it may not be running straight down the track and the clutch isn't necessarily it. Also,how can you judge what ET he should be running from that MPH? So if it runs a 10.80 with a 4.88 gear it's going to run the same MPH at a 10.80 with a 3.73 or 4.10 gear? No it's not. 10.40's at only 125.8 MPH? Really? I ran a 10.29 @133.9MPH in my Camaro.If i go by your theory i should have only been in the high 128MPh range.
bootman2k1 7 months ago
gay new camaro's gonna get spankd
Vinnygil 10 months ago
nice
mizix2001 11 months ago
perfection
litosk84fun 1 year ago
Man that fucker screams!!!
xcelerator67 1 year ago
what gear are you doing your burnout in? The tires are barely turning and don't smoke at all, probably why you spin so much with slicks.
oriclepro09 1 year ago
Check out the MacNeish D/Stocker! NHRA National Record Holder. 1967 Z28 Camaro.
10.45 with stock engine and NHRA tear down.
CB
charliebraxton1 1 year ago
Type in jerry macneish, his 1967 Z28 is the NHRA national record holder running 10.45.
charliebraxton1 1 year ago
whatcha runnnig for a cam?
xtreme01hac10docter 1 year ago
what cam you running and heads
chevypower406 1 year ago
im looking into a g-force tranny for my chevelle. How do you like yours?
427ImportEater 1 year ago
she was gettin a little loose bout half track!
killer420ization 1 year ago
runs beautiful
exo6desmo8 1 year ago
i just came! i love camaros man
CanadianDipper28 1 year ago
stick cars rule!
no409 1 year ago 7
damn all that spinning and going out of the groove and still ran a 10.8 I want 1 so bad but I love my 01 z28 ;-)
DcEvoIX 1 year ago
those cal tracs hook up good
vcsniper556 2 years ago
_DREAM_CAR!
exo6desmo8 2 years ago
I am really loving this 'maro. Is it naturally aspirated, or are you spraying??? full interior? and what AFR heads you running- and @ .050 duration / lsa on the cam?
Thanks and God Bless.
GCSeeg09 2 years ago
NICE CAR ! My favorite chevy ;69 camaro eve though i am a blue oval man !
crownv80 2 years ago
Lots of wheel spin
dfinkie 2 years ago
Awesome! I wish my 4 speed 57 Chevy ran that strong.
spockistheman 2 years ago
What clutch ?? a Soft loc McLeod ? you have a alum. f/w ? Thanks Da Blue Oval Boys.....
DaBlueOvalBoys 3 years ago
I know your engine has AFR's on it. But do you happen to know what the port volume is on the original 186 heads? I have been told 170 to 180 cc. :)
02DZ 3 years ago
i run my 283 bored .125 which is basically a 302 used to call em 301's in the old days 12.50's-12-60's with 2.1 60 foot times. no traction.
nemodapimpfish 3 years ago 10
Are you running trac bars, cal tracs...?
mrfortuin 3 years ago
tubbed w/ 12 bolt chevy 4:88's art morrision coil overs and ladder bars but no slicks yet. ive got a set 5:13's and a 4 speed i need to put in. right now im running a t-350. automatic behind a stick motor just dont work!
nemodapimpfish 3 years ago
Ok come on, tell te truth... Thats no 302 right? LOL.. I sure wish my Daytona Yellow 69 Z/28 ran like that. Great job!!
Rarerat 3 years ago
Ya it's a little motor. Just not stock. Big roller cam, alum. heads, etc..... This run we had too much static pressure in the new clutch set up. Spun tire's bad on the line. 6800 rpm launch, shift between 8000-8200
ERICFORTUIN 3 years ago