This person demonstrates undoubtable results of long and sincere Muso Shinden Ryu training. This is definitely one of a few helpful iaido clip on youtube.
Yes, it is a shinken, and it is *very* sharp. No way I'd risk a noto with it anytime soon.
Shihan's sword looks long because Shihan isn't very tall, 5'4" max.
It doesnt rust because he cleans it carefully every practice. Properly maintained steel doesnt rust within 6 hours.
Finally, most "iaido people" keep 2 blades, one alloy or steel iaito and one shinken for tameshigiri. Learning to noto with a shinken is dangerously stupid. Schedule with the ER *before* you try.
yeah, I've been practicing MJER for about 5 years (and Muso Shinden when I can't make it to MJER), and I am still a large number of years away from using a shinken. Tozando Iaito for me.
At Nami-ryu, we don't waste our time with this old, tarditional obsolete stuff. We do not believe in one or more cut, one kill crap. Also stop using fake swords. AluminumZinc alloy are for wanna-be samurais. You need more practice!
FYI, the teacher in this video regularly uses a very nice razor sharp steel sword in his daily practice. Every time you open your mouth you are just confirming how little you know and just keep embarrassing your teacher more and more. There are easy to find Nami Ryu videos on youtube that directly contradict what you are saying. Go make these comments over at e-budo . com . The only problem is you can't be anonymous there.
Wow... James Williams would love that you are saying this kind of garbage all over the place with the name like yours. Oh boy... This is why one shouldn't teach MA to just anyone.... -_-
One should learn respect and honor before even holding a sword.
the sword, not him, the sword looks to long for his height, besides the normal range is 2.3 shaku, at 2.4 the sword is larger than the usual japenese standards
That's a matter style. MSR is known for using longer swords and one the reasons that it's noto is based on the Shimomura Ha style. Nakayama Hakudo Sensei's blade was very long. If you do some looking on youtube will find old B&W films of using it and of a 7th dan in MSR from 1960's and the blade he is using looks huge on him. It looks the bigger the what I use (2.7 shaku) relative to his body size. By comparison what is being used here is quite tame.
Excellent technique, shisei and spirit although the umbrella Omori Ryu O-chiburi is a little different (maybe better) angle but much similar to my own.
What is the last Kata in this video, I recognize all the rest..Inyo To?
It's not a part of the core curriculum. It's the 11th kata of a set of 12 kata attributed to Shindo Munen Ryu that we do. The name is In To referring to the technique performed in the act of retreating. The 10 kata is called Yo To (not shown) where the technique is performed in the act of advancing.
I should also point out this is the Shindo Munen Ryu as taught by the San Shin Kai. Not to be confused with the Shindo Munen Ryu school in Japan. Another name used for this kata series is Hosoda Ryu.
yeah, I like it too. I think it's simply original music performed by a local musician friend of his. If you do a search for "Daniel Verbeke" on google. You should find his website first, but his published music online seems to all be quite different from what you hear here. Probably a one time commision for a friend.
I can't see the Seme in the katas performed by this iaidoka. And the noto show a parasit movement... when the noto is finished, the iaidoka does push the iaito down.
Okay, if you can't see Seme then a, give me what you think Seme is and b, give me a video example where you think you see it. Personally, I have been in front him and felt it in abundance. I think it's pretty obvious here.
Well, okay, I don't think you really know what you are talking about. Putting aside mistaken assumption that I haven't been taught by Japanese sensei, I will leave this with pointing out that his long time personal teacher (decades) who is one of the better known Japanese sensei who has students in Japan that are ranked 8th dan. I think you were learning to write about the time he started with his training with his Japanese sensei.
by the way, I met the person that you were asking about on e-budo, Didier Boyet Sensei, the last time I was in Japan. He came to one of our training sessions to practice and afterwards went to a nearby neighborhood restaurant for sushi. Nice, sincere fellow, I didn't know exactly who he was until later. Just thought he was some french guy living in Japan who had been training a long time at Mitsuzuka Sensei's dojo. And that is the extent of my interest in Iaido politics in Europe, zero.
Interesting that you should be thinking this, because I was thinking the same thing in return. Has it crossed your mind that his teachers in Japan have seen these videos and he has gotten feedback? Because I know he has. It's expensive to create professional instruction videos. I haven't met a sincere teacher yet that is not genuinely unhappy with any professional video they have done.
The more I review my notes and talk to others the more I can't help thinking the height of your arrogance in attitude to think you have spotted errors. I can only be generous and excuse you for being too junior to know better, or confusing strict details of Seitei gata with the variation found in koryu styles, or confusing MSR with MJER, etc.
Seme is demonstrated with the WHOLE person: with the sword as an extension of his physical self, his body and his spirit. Neglecting any one of these three in a performance isn't true seme. Ki-ken-tai-ichi -- remember this.
You are showing a great deal of ignorance as well as rudeness. Many Iaido yudansha practice with shinken or other sharp steel blades. If you actually practice Nami Ryu, you are embarrassing your teacher right now. I have met James Williams and the man is a gentleman. I don't think he would care much for your attitude.
Again ignorance on display. A properly maintained and oiled steel blade is not going to get full of rust from doing a traditional noto. If you look on youtube you can easily find a Nami Ryu video of James Williams after completing some tameshigiri doing a traditional noto where his hand makes extensive contact with the blade. There reasons for covering the koiguchi. Maybe when you grow up and find an actual teacher you will learn about that.
I practice MJER we have a couple of katas wher we touch the blade (one similar to this video), I have always trained with a carbon steel shinken ever since I started Iaido, I have never had a problem with rust, you just need to clean the blade at the end of practice. There are also katas where there is a "reinforced trrust" and you do touch the blase too.
As for the noto, you do realize that many small details differ between lineages. What you teacher may have told you may not be accepted universally. Attend some the festivals in Japan were many hachidans perform. You may be surprised at the variability you see.
If you watch the video all the way to the end, it has contact info. There is a typo however in the website - it should be mountainteachings there is a "c" missing in the website url.
Darkshader, czumeizu is correct, instruction videos really should be used as reminders of what you are already learning or have learned in class. Your organization may have instruction videos that you should consider first and your teacher should be able to advise you best.
Thanks for uploading this, I wish more people who take this up instead of going for a martial art that gives you a bad ass reputation...
BuddhaZenMind 1 year ago
This person demonstrates undoubtable results of long and sincere Muso Shinden Ryu training. This is definitely one of a few helpful iaido clip on youtube.
nukitsuke88 3 years ago 5
Just to confirm:
Yes, it is a shinken, and it is *very* sharp. No way I'd risk a noto with it anytime soon.
Shihan's sword looks long because Shihan isn't very tall, 5'4" max.
It doesnt rust because he cleans it carefully every practice. Properly maintained steel doesnt rust within 6 hours.
Finally, most "iaido people" keep 2 blades, one alloy or steel iaito and one shinken for tameshigiri. Learning to noto with a shinken is dangerously stupid. Schedule with the ER *before* you try.
wujiangclan 4 years ago
yeah, I've been practicing MJER for about 5 years (and Muso Shinden when I can't make it to MJER), and I am still a large number of years away from using a shinken. Tozando Iaito for me.
IaidokaNC 2 years ago
Why is everybody bashing this man? If you can do better yourself, show it or shut up.
Boudreau666 4 years ago 3
At Nami-ryu, we don't waste our time with this old, tarditional obsolete stuff. We do not believe in one or more cut, one kill crap. Also stop using fake swords. AluminumZinc alloy are for wanna-be samurais. You need more practice!
666NamiRyu13 4 years ago
FYI, the teacher in this video regularly uses a very nice razor sharp steel sword in his daily practice. Every time you open your mouth you are just confirming how little you know and just keep embarrassing your teacher more and more. There are easy to find Nami Ryu videos on youtube that directly contradict what you are saying. Go make these comments over at e-budo . com . The only problem is you can't be anonymous there.
kbs1138 4 years ago
Wow... James Williams would love that you are saying this kind of garbage all over the place with the name like yours. Oh boy... This is why one shouldn't teach MA to just anyone.... -_-
One should learn respect and honor before even holding a sword.
Sad...
juktorydah 4 years ago
his using a freakin otachi or what, is to long
SATSUJIN93 4 years ago
you freakin don't know what you are talking about. He is not that tall. It's well with in the normal range. 2.4 shaku or about.
kbs1138 4 years ago
the sword, not him, the sword looks to long for his height, besides the normal range is 2.3 shaku, at 2.4 the sword is larger than the usual japenese standards
SATSUJIN93 4 years ago
That's a matter style. MSR is known for using longer swords and one the reasons that it's noto is based on the Shimomura Ha style. Nakayama Hakudo Sensei's blade was very long. If you do some looking on youtube will find old B&W films of using it and of a 7th dan in MSR from 1960's and the blade he is using looks huge on him. It looks the bigger the what I use (2.7 shaku) relative to his body size. By comparison what is being used here is quite tame.
kbs1138 4 years ago
Excellent technique, shisei and spirit although the umbrella Omori Ryu O-chiburi is a little different (maybe better) angle but much similar to my own.
What is the last Kata in this video, I recognize all the rest..Inyo To?
Ryozume 4 years ago 2
It's not a part of the core curriculum. It's the 11th kata of a set of 12 kata attributed to Shindo Munen Ryu that we do. The name is In To referring to the technique performed in the act of retreating. The 10 kata is called Yo To (not shown) where the technique is performed in the act of advancing.
kbs1138 4 years ago
I should also point out this is the Shindo Munen Ryu as taught by the San Shin Kai. Not to be confused with the Shindo Munen Ryu school in Japan. Another name used for this kata series is Hosoda Ryu.
kbs1138 2 weeks ago
I'm no Muso shinden expert but I can see this is really refined and good embu.
ohseikai 4 years ago
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czumelzu 4 years ago
Nice. Whats the music? I like it.
Kosh7 4 years ago
yeah, I like it too. I think it's simply original music performed by a local musician friend of his. If you do a search for "Daniel Verbeke" on google. You should find his website first, but his published music online seems to all be quite different from what you hear here. Probably a one time commision for a friend.
kbs1138 4 years ago
I can't see the Seme in the katas performed by this iaidoka. And the noto show a parasit movement... when the noto is finished, the iaidoka does push the iaito down.
czumelzu 4 years ago
Okay, if you can't see Seme then a, give me what you think Seme is and b, give me a video example where you think you see it. Personally, I have been in front him and felt it in abundance. I think it's pretty obvious here.
kbs1138 4 years ago
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czumelzu 4 years ago
Well, okay, I don't think you really know what you are talking about. Putting aside mistaken assumption that I haven't been taught by Japanese sensei, I will leave this with pointing out that his long time personal teacher (decades) who is one of the better known Japanese sensei who has students in Japan that are ranked 8th dan. I think you were learning to write about the time he started with his training with his Japanese sensei.
kbs1138 4 years ago
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czumelzu 4 years ago
by the way, I met the person that you were asking about on e-budo, Didier Boyet Sensei, the last time I was in Japan. He came to one of our training sessions to practice and afterwards went to a nearby neighborhood restaurant for sushi. Nice, sincere fellow, I didn't know exactly who he was until later. Just thought he was some french guy living in Japan who had been training a long time at Mitsuzuka Sensei's dojo. And that is the extent of my interest in Iaido politics in Europe, zero.
kbs1138 4 years ago
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czumelzu 4 years ago
Interesting that you should be thinking this, because I was thinking the same thing in return. Has it crossed your mind that his teachers in Japan have seen these videos and he has gotten feedback? Because I know he has. It's expensive to create professional instruction videos. I haven't met a sincere teacher yet that is not genuinely unhappy with any professional video they have done.
kbs1138 4 years ago
The more I review my notes and talk to others the more I can't help thinking the height of your arrogance in attitude to think you have spotted errors. I can only be generous and excuse you for being too junior to know better, or confusing strict details of Seitei gata with the variation found in koryu styles, or confusing MSR with MJER, etc.
kbs1138 4 years ago
Seme is demonstrated with the WHOLE person: with the sword as an extension of his physical self, his body and his spirit. Neglecting any one of these three in a performance isn't true seme. Ki-ken-tai-ichi -- remember this.
Proton1 4 years ago
Proton1- Why do you call it a sword? You are an idiot! Iaido people use only AluminumZinc
alloys fake swords. I do not call it a sword,
I call it a damn toy. If that's a real blade your sword is already full of rust. because you touch the blade when you noto.
666NamiRyu13 4 years ago
You are showing a great deal of ignorance as well as rudeness. Many Iaido yudansha practice with shinken or other sharp steel blades. If you actually practice Nami Ryu, you are embarrassing your teacher right now. I have met James Williams and the man is a gentleman. I don't think he would care much for your attitude.
kbs1138 4 years ago
Again ignorance on display. A properly maintained and oiled steel blade is not going to get full of rust from doing a traditional noto. If you look on youtube you can easily find a Nami Ryu video of James Williams after completing some tameshigiri doing a traditional noto where his hand makes extensive contact with the blade. There reasons for covering the koiguchi. Maybe when you grow up and find an actual teacher you will learn about that.
kbs1138 4 years ago
I practice MJER we have a couple of katas wher we touch the blade (one similar to this video), I have always trained with a carbon steel shinken ever since I started Iaido, I have never had a problem with rust, you just need to clean the blade at the end of practice. There are also katas where there is a "reinforced trrust" and you do touch the blase too.
fmn2628 2 years ago
@666NamiRyu13, my blade is real, and I have skin contact on noto as is proper, and I wipe the blade down after practice. No problems.
Naisho07 1 year ago
As for the noto, you do realize that many small details differ between lineages. What you teacher may have told you may not be accepted universally. Attend some the festivals in Japan were many hachidans perform. You may be surprised at the variability you see.
kbs1138 4 years ago
Hey, Im at the Ikkyu level.
but I would really like to learn the most advanced katas. So, please tell me where I can watch instructional videos like this
And Nukiuchi (Seitei) is one of the katas I like
DARKSHADE88 4 years ago
If you watch the video all the way to the end, it has contact info. There is a typo however in the website - it should be mountainteachings there is a "c" missing in the website url.
kbs1138 4 years ago
Darkshader,
If you want to learn more katas, you have to ask your sensei, never try to learn from a video or something.
Also, try to learn more advances katas without handle the basics is like to climb a mountain without start from the base camp.
czumelzu 4 years ago
Darkshader, czumeizu is correct, instruction videos really should be used as reminders of what you are already learning or have learned in class. Your organization may have instruction videos that you should consider first and your teacher should be able to advise you best.
kbs1138 4 years ago
The second technique, the one i am studying at the moment, was beautifully executed.
JonoIRL 4 years ago 2
nice techniques :D
dragondcdc 4 years ago