@we4saken2b2gether in case this hasn't been answered yet, I was there & we were called back to fire camp from other parts of the complex and were watching for spot fires... that's why we were "just standing around"
Most of the Yellow Jackets were contractors, Such as supply/cooking meals etc. However, as my self and other pilots that were there moved our aircraft just prior to this. Saw it coming. I believe the person in charge was instantly relieved of his duties.
@mabide001 they called my crew off the line two or three hours before it hit to "widen" camp...... when it hit we all just sat in a circle watching the camp crews put out the fires on their tents
I've been thinking about moving out to somewhere like California or somewhere to battle wildfires.. .Though i do enjoy getting dirty inside a structure every now and then. :]
How terrifying it would be to see this marching towards you and there is nothing you can do about it. I hope all of those guys made it!
Anyway, forest fires are beasts. I remember the Yellowstone fire of 1988. Only when the weather changed and it started to rain and snow did that fire get tamed. Over 1/3 of the park burned.
the same event had happened to me on September 26, 1999. fortunately the wildfire was contained before it reached to my house but it had burned too close.
I was on this fire it was way narly escpecially when the trash caught on fire the most crazy shit i ever seen was driving to camp and all the sprinklers protecting the camp were burnt to a crisp i am lucky to be here right now
The camps placement was not the problem, the problem was lack of a decision to move the camp when the fire threatened the camp. LCES was in place, and all rules were followed when the camp was placed. Intermediate crews should have warned that the camp was in danger. As the fire was producing its own weather at the time.
The guy that walked up to the other guy that was walking up in between the trailers... anyways the guy with the cowboy hat that started running at 2:22... my dad told me that he was running through the camp screaming "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE" and throwing chairs around...
My dad was there... He came home and told us all about it then my mom and I were really scared because we thought that wouldn't happen... I didn't even know how bad it was until I walked in the door tonight and he showed me this video... wow... he said that the flames were 150feet up in the air... Oh to answer the question for vvillem9 they couldn't have water they couldn't put it out...
Opps. Looks like a bit of fire got close to base camp. It happens but I am sure someone got in trouble over the deal. We had a spot fire start just out of the perimeter of our helibase last year on a fire. Powers at be that wasn't even at the fire tried to fry one of my boses for it. Yeah, fire is rather dynamic.
That's some good footage - I was there w/ Mill Creek Hotshots putting out spot fires in fire camp - ridiculous. It was my final fire w/ the Forest Service. Check out the video I posted of it on my page.
yeah "buck up" i survived cascade complex. all i got to say is that the west side had alot of hot spots. im hopping that the salmon run there wont be affected by this fire. i would like to go spear fishing up south fork next year you know.
The "Let it burn" policy is often enforced for fiscal reasons, not because it is "natural" for the timber. The fire in Cascade was a stand replacing fire, sometimes this is a good thing, sometimes not. When fires get as hot as the Cascade Complex did, it often has many detrimental effects to the environment and wildlife.
Fire is and can be very beneficial to the landscape. One of the reasons why fires these days can be so hot and out of control, is because we, as humans have suppressed them. The Native Americans knew how to use fire correctly, to their benefit. Under their care, fire was used to keep the land in a much more natural state then it is in now.
When President Clinton left office, he signed massive, sweeping regulations that shut loggers out of many national forrests. In fact, the town of Cascade used to be a logging town, with a mill and all.
Today, the loggers and mill have disappeared. What is left is a forrest clogged with underbrush and debris. I would say it is in a much less healty state than 10 or so years ago. It is very sad. Warm Lake is a beautiful place to spend a day or afternoon. I have not seen the lake since the fire, but sadly, I am sure it is not as beautiful anymore. With time, the trees will return; but the memory of the fire will be with the residents and firefighters for a very long time.
While this may be an example of what shouldnt ever happen truth is it does anyone whos been on the line more than a day can tell you this has happend, hell its happend to me 3 times.
This is a fine example of WHAT should NEVER have been allowed to happen. The team had plenty of advance notice of this fire coming toward them, and people should have been evacuated long before this event.
My son's CA USFS fire crew was on this fire from early to mid August and experienced the "burn over". Hoorah for their ability stay safe and to fight this kind of war... Thanks for the post.
Why did he HAVE to come fight this fire? Was he an inmate on a convict crew? What did your uncle do? Was there no one else to do the job, other than your uncle? I don't understand what is going on here. He must be the man, and that's why he had to go. Had to go. Had to go. Had to go. Had to go. Had to go.
I thought this summer's fires were promoting forest health by creeping through the underbrush and thinning out all the tiny trees. That's what we've been told. Over 2,000,000 acres in Idaho alone have received this "treatment" this summer. Is this forest health or forest extinction?
we haven't heard many people try to describe the idaho fires as being low-intensity. most of the land burned by the cascade complex is in what fire ecologists call a 'low-frequency, high-severity' fire regime - that is, these forests don't burn for years, and then they REALLY burn (example yellowstone 1987).
the burned forests will recover - this is what they have done since lightning was invented.
No, this is what they have done since trailer houses and fire crews were invented.
Most fire ecologists have a very poor understanding of fire history. This stuff is unprecedented. Precontact Indian populations in Australia and North America were far (far) more skilled at managing landscape-scale fire than today's ecologists and fire managers ever will be.
My husband was working fire support services when this happened. He said they were very well protected and he never felt unsafe (he did also say he was too ignorant to be scared :-) )
I past that place when I was going to Warm Lake, very different here to England, it was boring some wildlife in England, the Hummingbirds, the chipmunks are a wow.
OMG!! i hope no one was hurt during this incident....
iampeeay01 1 month ago
amazing footage, but what the hell is everyone doing just sitting around?!!! you call yourselves firefighters?
we4saken2b2gether 4 months ago
@we4saken2b2gether in case this hasn't been answered yet, I was there & we were called back to fire camp from other parts of the complex and were watching for spot fires... that's why we were "just standing around"
jjpme92un 3 months ago
Reports claim that the fire was caused by a burst of hot air from Howard Stern's anus.
knoxklay11 6 months ago
the fire fighter ppl wasnt gne do nun to put it out lik wtf day need to get day ass fired up
jaylawayla17 7 months ago
Most of the Yellow Jackets were contractors, Such as supply/cooking meals etc. However, as my self and other pilots that were there moved our aircraft just prior to this. Saw it coming. I believe the person in charge was instantly relieved of his duties.
MrUtilitarian 7 months ago
Y'all are firemen! Put it out! Don't just stare!
stormbringer126 8 months ago
Holy fuck.
JeroenLondon 8 months ago
Holy crap what the hell is this!!! nobody has fire shelters on during this!! C'mon guys!
fireman98826 10 months ago
Fire:n run run i Gonna kill You! run run I fire / Campers:what the fuck is wildfire run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/Fire:iFire
belon4life 1 year ago
You can walk to work, get it, WALK TO WORK. haha, had to say it.
blinko656 1 year ago
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No wonder people are arsonists.
bloomingdedalus 1 year ago
I love the camp crews sitting around. Closest they ever got to a fire, guaranteed.
mabide001 1 year ago
@mabide001 they called my crew off the line two or three hours before it hit to "widen" camp...... when it hit we all just sat in a circle watching the camp crews put out the fires on their tents
Duffstr 1 year ago
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DreamsofMajesty 1 year ago
Why go to the fire when it comes to you!!!
astrostorm111 1 year ago
I've been thinking about moving out to somewhere like California or somewhere to battle wildfires.. .Though i do enjoy getting dirty inside a structure every now and then. :]
marines13r 1 year ago
How terrifying it would be to see this marching towards you and there is nothing you can do about it. I hope all of those guys made it!
Anyway, forest fires are beasts. I remember the Yellowstone fire of 1988. Only when the weather changed and it started to rain and snow did that fire get tamed. Over 1/3 of the park burned.
UtahMike41 2 years ago
the same event had happened to me on September 26, 1999. fortunately the wildfire was contained before it reached to my house but it had burned too close.
aurora990 1 year ago
holy cow! i was on this fire. unfortunately after this happened. I heard people talking about it but man i didn't know it was full on torching.
FirekillerDnB 2 years ago
"oh just put water on it..thats what you need.." yea go do that at the next one and let me know how that goes.
BRFFD14 2 years ago
RUN!
iwannabedavedays 2 years ago
OMG i just had a brush fire and it was less than 100 yards from my house and they got it out just in time i thought my house was a gonner
SpiritGrace 2 years ago
run run away
MrFan619 2 years ago
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
jedidiaht 2 years ago
Any air support for the camp?
monkeyrum15 2 years ago
I was on this fire it was way narly escpecially when the trash caught on fire the most crazy shit i ever seen was driving to camp and all the sprinklers protecting the camp were burnt to a crisp i am lucky to be here right now
maxv232002 2 years ago
Sounds like it was plume dominated- based on the wind- the safety zone seems a little small- any buildings burn?
ThePukibear 2 years ago
The camps placement was not the problem, the problem was lack of a decision to move the camp when the fire threatened the camp. LCES was in place, and all rules were followed when the camp was placed. Intermediate crews should have warned that the camp was in danger. As the fire was producing its own weather at the time.
russiaNumber2 2 years ago
I have a video of "Wildfire prevention psa drawings."
andrewschiffer 2 years ago
DUde! that would fucking scare the hell out of me if that were coming tward me!
kotaperkins 2 years ago
Whoever placed camp at that location should have their quals pulled.
Altayayo 2 years ago
Funny...
blinko656 2 years ago
Guess they shouldve evacuated camp. I looks like they didnt know what the hell to do. Ive seen 2 camps burned over, not fun mopping up that shit!
jlkjenstad 2 years ago
The guy that walked up to the other guy that was walking up in between the trailers... anyways the guy with the cowboy hat that started running at 2:22... my dad told me that he was running through the camp screaming "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE" and throwing chairs around...
disneychick156 2 years ago
My dad was there... He came home and told us all about it then my mom and I were really scared because we thought that wouldn't happen... I didn't even know how bad it was until I walked in the door tonight and he showed me this video... wow... he said that the flames were 150feet up in the air... Oh to answer the question for vvillem9 they couldn't have water they couldn't put it out...
disneychick156 2 years ago
It's gonna be 43 degrees here tomorow, dry and windy.
Nightmare fire weather. Probably shouldn't have watched this right now.
BTPossum 3 years ago
well koassquaeheed stupid name they cant because the fire is to big and i know all about wildfires.
Da1Great1D1Assasin 3 years ago
WHERES DA DAMN HOT DOGS
hoolybearzz 3 years ago
Woha!
Nitulein 3 years ago
Opps. Looks like a bit of fire got close to base camp. It happens but I am sure someone got in trouble over the deal. We had a spot fire start just out of the perimeter of our helibase last year on a fire. Powers at be that wasn't even at the fire tried to fry one of my boses for it. Yeah, fire is rather dynamic.
cavegorilla 3 years ago
That's some good footage - I was there w/ Mill Creek Hotshots putting out spot fires in fire camp - ridiculous. It was my final fire w/ the Forest Service. Check out the video I posted of it on my page.
jjpme92un 3 years ago
why not just put the fucker out ???
konasquareheed 3 years ago
How?
BTPossum 3 years ago
2 word: HOLY SHIT! that is madness the guys do that to save our lives the deserve a huzah
ryancolemanstudios 3 years ago
Crazy We Just Had One Up Here In Arizona
TravelingColeberrys 3 years ago
Was that near Tombstone? If so, we saw that O.o it was a tad scary...
TheGrimSmile 2 years ago
Can't they at least try and save their pickups??? Or is the fire close enough to affect the fuel?
Frozenhotdogger 3 years ago
a lot
lightiing 3 years ago
1 word. WATER
XxHolyPoptartxX 3 years ago
ya fuckin think?
jasonguyperson 3 years ago
OMG of course, water
that is what you need -.-
vvillem9 3 years ago
water aint gonna stop that fire
BRFFD14 2 years ago
damn now thats insane
nebpredude84 3 years ago
you never get that look at the fire from the air.
shortmovieguy 3 years ago
Nice safety zone...
OneSkiWonder 3 years ago
yeah cascade was rocking we were there for two months of the hook good video good behavior
gilhnic 3 years ago
my birthday was on August 13! but i live in connecticut
coasterguy1122 3 years ago
look at the wind sock that wind is going every which way.. I been on a few fires with our cat an lowboy here in OR.
kreeper88 3 years ago
Looks like an excellent location for a Firecamp; making travel costs minimal and firefighter access extremely efficient!
ORWWmedia 3 years ago 9
Too damn funny.
kreeper88 3 years ago
HAHA, figures, we were up on the loon lake/zena fire and we heard the chatter that day, it was pretty hectic.
Brawlyben 3 years ago
@ORWWmedia Good comment, funny.
blinko656 1 year ago
Very cool
Sprchrged04 4 years ago
SURVIVED I MENT!
apachesk8er 4 years ago
I SUVIVED CASCADE!
FORT APACHE 13.
apachesk8er 4 years ago
it's an Incredible crown fire, this is the worse kind of fire that exist, in few words this is the hell in the earth
forestryfire 4 years ago
yeah "buck up" i survived cascade complex. all i got to say is that the west side had alot of hot spots. im hopping that the salmon run there wont be affected by this fire. i would like to go spear fishing up south fork next year you know.
ndnjimmy203 4 years ago
Well, it didn't look that bad to me. I think that everyone just panicked.
catfish4975 4 years ago
Something like this always made fire camp a little more fun. Same thing happend to us on the Big Bar complex on it was the middle of the night.
levi79 4 years ago
The "Let it burn" policy is often enforced for fiscal reasons, not because it is "natural" for the timber. The fire in Cascade was a stand replacing fire, sometimes this is a good thing, sometimes not. When fires get as hot as the Cascade Complex did, it often has many detrimental effects to the environment and wildlife.
ameskerf 4 years ago
Fire is and can be very beneficial to the landscape. One of the reasons why fires these days can be so hot and out of control, is because we, as humans have suppressed them. The Native Americans knew how to use fire correctly, to their benefit. Under their care, fire was used to keep the land in a much more natural state then it is in now.
ameskerf 4 years ago 5
When President Clinton left office, he signed massive, sweeping regulations that shut loggers out of many national forrests. In fact, the town of Cascade used to be a logging town, with a mill and all.
ameskerf 4 years ago
Today, the loggers and mill have disappeared. What is left is a forrest clogged with underbrush and debris. I would say it is in a much less healty state than 10 or so years ago. It is very sad. Warm Lake is a beautiful place to spend a day or afternoon. I have not seen the lake since the fire, but sadly, I am sure it is not as beautiful anymore. With time, the trees will return; but the memory of the fire will be with the residents and firefighters for a very long time.
ameskerf 4 years ago
While this may be an example of what shouldnt ever happen truth is it does anyone whos been on the line more than a day can tell you this has happend, hell its happend to me 3 times.
levi79 4 years ago
Should just let it burn natural way of thinning the forests not waste taxpayer's money fighting them
webbdh 4 years ago
This is a fine example of WHAT should NEVER have been allowed to happen. The team had plenty of advance notice of this fire coming toward them, and people should have been evacuated long before this event.
oldfiregirl 4 years ago 3
My son's CA USFS fire crew was on this fire from early to mid August and experienced the "burn over". Hoorah for their ability stay safe and to fight this kind of war... Thanks for the post.
riversendranch 4 years ago
My uncle had to come and fight this fire.
Hunterbigfoot 4 years ago
Single handedly? That's AMAZING!!! Your uncle is the MAN!!!
catfish4975 4 years ago
No smart ass.
Hunterbigfoot 4 years ago 2
Why did he HAVE to come fight this fire? Was he an inmate on a convict crew? What did your uncle do? Was there no one else to do the job, other than your uncle? I don't understand what is going on here. He must be the man, and that's why he had to go. Had to go. Had to go. Had to go. Had to go. Had to go.
catfish4975 4 years ago
Will one he is a firefighter. and you are still a smart ass
Hunterbigfoot 4 years ago
America is like a natural barbecue, if they know the wildfire risks are high, they should put retardent on it before it burns.
CactusBuddy 4 years ago
I thought this summer's fires were promoting forest health by creeping through the underbrush and thinning out all the tiny trees. That's what we've been told. Over 2,000,000 acres in Idaho alone have received this "treatment" this summer. Is this forest health or forest extinction?
SOSFmike 4 years ago 3
mike,
we haven't heard many people try to describe the idaho fires as being low-intensity. most of the land burned by the cascade complex is in what fire ecologists call a 'low-frequency, high-severity' fire regime - that is, these forests don't burn for years, and then they REALLY burn (example yellowstone 1987).
the burned forests will recover - this is what they have done since lightning was invented.
fusee1 4 years ago 4
Fusee:
No, this is what they have done since trailer houses and fire crews were invented.
Most fire ecologists have a very poor understanding of fire history. This stuff is unprecedented. Precontact Indian populations in Australia and North America were far (far) more skilled at managing landscape-scale fire than today's ecologists and fire managers ever will be.
ORWWmedia 2 years ago
I went right over head on my way to St. Maries Idaho to the echo springs fire. Wish we would have seen flames that big.
n8vfd 4 years ago
Oh My LORD! How upsetting! Prayers and thoughts are with those fighting those fires and those who are effected by the fires.
GraceyAli 4 years ago
My husband was working fire support services when this happened. He said they were very well protected and he never felt unsafe (he did also say he was too ignorant to be scared :-) )
audreyjeanne 4 years ago
I past that place when I was going to Warm Lake, very different here to England, it was boring some wildlife in England, the Hummingbirds, the chipmunks are a wow.
CactusBuddy 4 years ago
"I'd be gettin' the heck outta there..." And you would be dead...No injuries in the ICP from fire front passing thru
rocdad 4 years ago
COOL! I just got back to PA from that Complex, Spent the entire time on structure protection at Warm Lake. I had an awesome view by the lake !
PAWildfire3 4 years ago
what assurances are made that the firefighters are going to be taken care of ?
WesternWatersheds 4 years ago
EEEPPPP!!!!!!
JeanC38 4 years ago
I'd be gettin' the heck outta there...
igypup 4 years ago