I actually like Bayless. He is entertaining and despite the fact he hates Lebron, he can make people think, which I find a good thing even if he hates Lebron so much
skip is bitch made hater to max what lebron do to you he doing him get over it always on jordan's dick don't get me wrong lebron got people on his too but man cmon just fuck off micheal jordan,magic,bird,had there time hell even fucking malone and he did't get shit bottom line lebron's better than kobe even though #24 a beast and go hard as fuck he not lebron in skill but in career stats yep he got the king beat except the mvp in09'10' and kobe 08' but skip you just talk about lebron too much 1.
skip bayless is the best debater in all of the media. He nails it at least 90% of the time and people who hate on him are in lebrick's mindless bitch army
wha? Skip Payless needs his white ass kicked good by a blackman so he can learn to respect us, and a asswhooping is the only thing that would straighten him out! and they got this dumb ass Black bitch turning against her own to please these fucking whitefolks. Those people didnt have to turn over they video, it wasnt against the law.
Jordan Crawford was a top 15 college player and is now in the NBA with the Hawks. He's not a random no one.
BTW, where's the proof that LEBRON asked for the tapes? Last time I checked, it was the NIKE guy that asked for it. Lebron even talked about it in an interview and admitted Jordan was a great player and he was expecting something to happen to him in that camp.
of course your going to get dunked on by people jordan is in the nba now kobe has been dunked on plenty of times so had dwyane doesnt change how good they are but i agree with some of you guys who have said it dwyane and kobe are better
@MrDefone211 i wouldn't say lebron is overrated but he is a poser. he's obviously no mj, and his legacy won't even be as good as kobe's because if he wins champs with miami people will always say he needed wade and bosh to do it. he'll have to leave miami.
@MrDefone211 the truth and the facts? what kind of 'plain facts' are there exactly except for no rings? 2 time mvp? career avg 27-7-7? people who hate on lebron are either cleveland fans, people who are stupid enough to buy the media or fans of other stars (eg kobe). hating on anyone is dumb, you dont have to like him but please respect him as a great player....hope that skip would see this and realise that all his hatred on lebron james are from his extremely biased opinons
@MrDefone211 SKIP IS THE HATER, that's what no one likes. Every other announcer says he looks for the negative & ignores the positive in Lebron & Ochocinco especially & you & 66 other haters who likes this comment are backing it... Wow, society is officially overrun with Haters.
What LeBRAT is doing is not being competitive,its being a big COWARD...And no matter how many rings he will win by teaming up with 2 of the top players in the NBA,it will never dignify him as a REAL CHAMPION as compared to Jordan,Kobe,Magic,Russell and Bird who won it by being the leader of a team in a competitive way and not by a cowardly way..
Like Michael Jordan said.. Kobe Bryant is better.. And he said it in a way that,kobe or lebron? Kobe of course..its a no brainer..
We all should UNDERSTAND LeBrick..He is so desperate after Kobe got his 5th ring and man, 5 vs ZERO is such a pale comparison already.. And no matter how bloggers like Gay Kerby and Kelly Gayer try to sugarcoat the SELFISH move by Prince James.
When Kobe retires from the game, NBA has it work cut out because of this new breed of self-promotional superstars beginning with the new generation's leader Prince James. The only player I see that can take Kobe's place when he retires is Durant. I just hope Durant does not get into this media circus promotional tour like Lebron James has done.
I will say this. People should appreciate Kobe Bryant a lot much after the heartless and ringless king ran to Miami to play under Wade. Kobe is the last of true great players like MJ, Magic, Bird, and Isiah. It takes a special player to bond, mold, and lead a team to a championship. Lebron wanted the cowardly way trying to win a title by teaming with D Wade and Bosh. When Miami fail next season, which they will, what is Lebron's excuse this time around?
Now, Prince James abandoned the Cavs to ride on the coat tail of D Wade. Lebron has confirmed my belief that he cannot lead a team to a title. This so called super team will fail because Lebron will kill the chemistry in Miami. Lebron should never be compared to a Kobe Bryant or MJ. ESPN has lost its credibility as a real sports channel by airing this overrated superstar where he is playing. NBA fans should appreciate great players like Kobe, MJ, Magic, and Bird even more after this fiasco.
@ca9999 Again, you have no proof of any of his personality traits because you are not in his mind or heart. But we can dead this conersation because it seems like you are a typical judgemental fan who has nothing valid to say. I have no problem with 'The Decision" or him leaving Cleveland. (Based off of what I see on TV) He doesn't owe any thing to anybody. I wish LeBron the best and I hope you will too.
@KrfNYC2 You just do not want to accept the undisputed truth. Lebron by signing with the Heat proved he does not have the guts or mental toughness to win a title as the man. Prince James took the easy way out. Although he will not win a title in Miami this year but Lebron always proves me right about being more of a Robin than a Batman. You just like many of these Prince James fanbasethat are blind to this kid's shortcomings. I have watched basketball close to 30 years and Lebron is overrated.
@KrfNYC2 Can you imagine a Kobe, MJ, Bird, or Magic trying to team with other superstars. the answer is hell no. Those four guys wanted the challenge to lead their team to a championship as the man. Lebron just do not have the stomach or focus to lead a team to a title. I do not want no halfbrained fan trying to compare this overrated player to true greats like MJ, Kobe, Magic, or Bird. Lebron is now a Robin instead of a Batman. I have been saying that about Lebrick James for years.
@ca9999 Kobe had Shaq, and now he has Pau, Odom and Artest. MJ had Pippen and Rodman. Magic had Kareem and James Worthy and Bird had McHale and Parrish. Everybody wants to win, and no player in the history of the NBA has done so without the help of other great players. The only difference with LeBron is that he had to go elsewere to find them. And what's wrong with that?
@KrfNYC2 Let me educate you my friend. Reggie Miller and Jeff Van Gundy stated that Kobe or MJ would never try to collude with other superstars trying to win a title like what Prince James did. Leaders make their counterparts play harder and that is why Kobe and MJ is so great. Lebron figured out that he cannot lead a team to a title as being the leading man. Lebron needed a closer like Wade because he lacks that instinct. Lebron mind set his more of a Robin than a Batman.
@ca9999 Again, you aren't in Bron's mind so you can't say what goes on inside of it. Also, I don't care what Van Gundy and Miller say.Bron is the best player in the league, most likely, but hasn't been on the best team. This is why I say that we put too much emphasis on rings,becaue we end up bashing great players instead of reognizing their greatness as we should. James is a closer, just not a buzzer-beater hitter. MJ couldn't lead the bulls toatitle until Pippen and Rodman came along...
@KrfNYC2 Lebron is not the best player in the league. He is not close to being the best player because of his playoff failures and quitting. Kobe is the best player in the NBA. I am going to ask you this question to see if you one of these blind Prince James witnesses or a real basketball fan. Do you think Lebron quit or choked in game 5 and game 6 against Boston? In Miami, D Wade is the best player on that team.
@KrfNYC2 Lebron is a great player but I always thought the media overhyped this kid to something he is not. Lebron over the years begin to believe in his own hype with these silly dance routines, fake picture taking, and the flexing. Kobe is still the best player in the league because he is a leader of men, mentally tough, an asssasin in the fourth quarter, and he wins championships. Lebron does not have those qualities and that is why he went to Miami to team with Wade.
@KrfNYC2 dude, Lebron is not a closer. I see that you are another Lebron James misguided fan. The best closers I have seen over the last 27 years of watching basketball is MJ, Kobe, Reggie Miller, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson and Isiah Thomas. Those guys had that killer instinct that opponents fear. Most important, five of them won championships. You would ask most GMs and players who is the player you fear to play in today's NBA, it will be Kobe. Kobe is the last of the old school players.
@ca9999 I never said that LeBron was THE BEST closer. But he does play well int he 4th quarter often. I'm not misguided, I just reckognize his talent.
@KrfNYC2 Did you know Wilt Chamberlain had far more superior stats than MJ. But what made MJ better than Wilt is because he lead his team to 6 championships to Wilt 2 championships. Stats do not mean nothing until you win championships. To be a true great player, you have to produce stats along with championships. That is why Kobe is the superior and better player than your boy Prince James. It is insulting to compare Prince James to legends like Kobe and MJ in my opinion
@KrfNYC2 I give you this point, Lebron is probably the best driver to basket in NBA history. But his overall game is still raw. He did somewhat improve his jump shooting but we saw in the Boston Celtic series that he is still not a consistent jump shooter. I always think that is biggest flaw which is inconsistent jump shooting. Also, Lebron shoots on 76 percent from the line. That is mediocre. I have seen Prince James missed crucial free throws in big games like in games 5 and 6 against Boston
@ca9999 I never said that Bron wa THE BEST closer. I agree that Kobe,MJ etc are better closers. I suggest uou read my comments more carefully before responding.
@KrfNYC2 you said Lebron is a closer and the best player in the game. You are wrong on both accounts. Then you asked me that why you are a misguided Lebron fan. I can write a novel on your misguidance. All Lebron witnesses use the same argument about you being the best without winning a title. What make players legends? Players like MJ, Kobe, Magic, and Bird are legends because they led their teams to titles. All of you Lebron lovers like throw stats.
@KrfNYC2 That is why Kobe is far more superior because of his will to take over a game in the playoffs. At times, Lebron looks uncomfortable in pressure situations especially in the playoffs. That is why his Cavs have not won a championship in 7 years. I have said this and I will say it again, Lebron is the most overhype and overrated star in sports history. Lebron is only a great regular season player that puts on a good show but disappears in the playoffs. I just laugh at you Lebron supporters
@ca9999 Okay, look at LeBron's playof numbers and tell me that he doesn't perform. He can't win a championship all by himself, and neiher could Jordan. All they can do is their part and hope that the contributions of others are good enough to win title. If Jordan did't play with Pippen, he stll would have been just as good of a player...correct? But The Bulls may not have won any championships. So the idea that stats and idividual performance mean nothing and titles are everthing is ridicuous.
@KrfNYC here we go again with Lebron having no teammates. That is an poor excuse. I can see if Lebron was stuck with team that won like 41 or 42 games in a season and you have a point. Dude, this team won 66 and 61 games in 09 and 10. Lebron could not push or lead this team to a title. Championships are won with strong leaders like Kobe or MJ. Look at Kobe after game 5 loss to Boston, he jumped on his team to play harder and they responded. Lebron in game 5 showed no leadership and quitted.
@ca9999 exactly. MJ went through years of losing and crap with the bulls in the 80's and never quit. He showed his worth in the playoffs and played better with the pressure rising. Lebron made some of the dumbest plays in the series vs. the celtics in the final seconds. What I hate the most is when lebron makes a fuckin tv show to announce his decision. and he doesn't even tell the team he's leaving that he's leaving. He's not a competitor, and he has no class.
@chandthruk Have you met LeBron? Do you kno what he is like through the experience of talking to him or being aroun him? Or are you just going off of what you see and hear in the media? Because that onl shows a small percentage of his life. The rest is private.
@chandthruk i absolutely agree, dude. Maybe I am an old-school type of fan but this league with its young superstars like Lebron is destroying the game. The only true great old school player left in this league is Kobe Bryant. Prince James problem is that he put entertainment before winning. That does not work. MJ, Kobe, Magic, and Bird was dedicated to only winning first. That is a lost art with the younger stars in the game today.
@ca9999 By the way, according to you, MJ was overrated and overhyped from '84-'90 because he didn't win any championships, or even get to a finals, like Bron. Bottom line, Bron has had more team sucess in his first 6 years than Jodan did in his first 6 (granted he won the title in his 7th). So using your logic, Bron was better in his first 6 seasons than Jordan in his first 6...because like yo said, it's all about the rings and Bron came closer than Jordan did until '91. Correct me if I'm wrong.
@KrfNYC2 Dude, you play to win championships. I have seen MJ in his early years and MJ was a fierce competitor but he never gave up on his Bulls team and teammates even through the bad years. Prince James left Cleveland because he could not handle the pressure of being "The Man" and try to take the easy road to a title in Miami by teamming with the second best player in world behind Kobe which is D Wade. Lebron should not ever be mentioned in the same breath of a MJ or even Kobe.
@ca9999 I'm suprised it took you this long to mention Miami.I've no problem with it.He played out his contract and decided to take his talents elsewere in pursuit of a chip.Can you blame him?You were just saying how he'll never be this or that until he gets a ring, and when he tries to do that you bash him for it.Everyones been criticising him for not winning a title,and than we criticise him for trying to.The emphasis that people like you put on titles is why players like Bron sign elsewere.
@KrfNYC2 but by him signing with Miami, he will never be compared to great competitors or champions like Kobe or MJ. Lebron took the easy way out to team with Wade. If Miami come up short in the playoffs, Prince James will make the excuse like always it is not my fault. In my opinion, the so-called three kings in Miami is not going to work because of Prince James selfish ego and his inability to perform in big games. Kobe and the Lakers will win his 6th title.
@ca9999 Yeah, the fans probably won't think that he is on the same level as Jordan or Kobe, but that doesn't make them right. My problem IS indeed that very perception that changing teams makes you lesser of a player. If by taking the easy way out you mean going to the team that had the best chance of winning a title than yeah...he took th easy way out...an what's wrong with that? And the rest of what you say is merley specualtion.
@KrfNYC2 That is why Lebron does not have a competitior's mentality. MJ and Magic Johnson just stated that they would never join the top superstars to win a title. That is what wrong with these young superstars in the league trying to find the easy way to win. Sports is about competition. To be the best, you must beat the best not by trying to build a so-called superteam. That is why MJ, Kobe, Magic, and Bird are true warriors not Prince James.
@KrfNYC2 Lebron is not even close to the level of a Kobe or Lebron. That is an insult by putting Prince James in that conversation with two of the best winners ever to play. Lebron just add more excuses and failures of coming up short in big games. Lebron had his chances to be in that conversation with MJ and Kobe of being all time great but he destroyed that by joining Wade and Bosh in Miami. Lebron just never had that killer instinct or winning intangibles to win a title as the main man.
@comerbp82 Kobe is in the conversation, you cant deny that. Kobe has won 5 rings as the main man and as being option 1A with Shaq. Kobe is the closest player to MJ than any player in the league because of his drive to win and his leadership.
@ca9999 I can deny it, because Kobe isn't as good at Jordan was. I watched Jordan win all 6 of his championships, and probably watched 75% of the games he played over the course of his career... and I watched Kobe win all 5 of his championships, and watched a large % of his games.
He isn't as good. He has flashes of being as good, but the consistency isn't there. And you only have to look at a stats comparison to see what I'm talking about. He is the closest, but its a distant second.
@comerbp82 that is the point i am making. Kobe is the closest player to MJ. If Kobe can pull out some more titles than he can creep closer to MJ status. Clearly, Kobe is the best player in the world today.
@comerbp82 I have watched the NBA for 27 years dude. I have watched MJ, Magic, Bird, Isiah, Walter Davis, Dr. J, Wilkins and other greats. MJ is regarded as the greatest player ever. But you cannot deny some of Kobe accomplishments has as a player.
@comerbp82 kobe is a very great player more than very good. Kobe is in the top 5 of all time greats. Kobe is the last of old school players left in the NBA.
@ca9999 last of the old school? Kobe isn't old school. His time spent in the league was after handchecking was removed. He's playing in a league where offensives are inflated due to restrictions on defensive players. If anything, he's the first of the new-age players.
Would I put Kobe in the top 5? Sure, because he's clutch. But he doesn't even come close to Jordan. Who was not only "Mr Clutch"... he was incredibly consistent, while doing it in a much more competitive defensive league.
@ca9999 You've probably repsonded to me with about 50 comments and repeated youself in 47 of them. You don't answer my questions, you disregard the points that I make and you might as well be talking to yourself because you're preventing this conversation from going anywere. The next time you repeat yourself, avoid my logic or continue to contribute to a round about argument in any way...I'm done.
@KrfNYC2 Because you make the same lame excuse for Lebron James. Face it, he is the most overhyped superstar I can remember. He is no MJ man he is no Kobe. Lebron is just a player that gots talent but does not have the mental focus to win as the main man. You Lebron supporters makes the same pitiful ass excuses that makes no sense. You have the right to support Prince James but the dude has no heart of a champion. He will be a great sidekick for Wade.
@ca9999 You say that LeBron has no mental toughness...I ask you how you know that sinc your not inside LeBron's mind...You repeat that Bron has no metal toughness and don't answer my question. You say that Bron is no MJ or Kobe...I tell you that I am not saying Bron is better or worse than MJ or Kobe...You continue to tell me that Bron is no MJ or Kobe. I ask you why no TEAM titles makes an INDIVIDUAL overrated...you don't answer. I'm done.
@KrfNYC the reason why I am repeating because you are just like the many other blind Lebron witnesses. I do not want to sound like Dan Gilbert but look at all the playoffs losses in his career. Lebron did not go out in a fight against those teams. You just dont want to believe the truth about your boy being soft or having no mental toughness. But Lebron always prove me right and you Prince James lovers wrong year in and year out.
@ca9999 Okay, so if I'm blind that means I can't see things. Show me...what can't I see? And don't just says "LeBron is that and that because it's just obvious"...give me some concrete evidence or at least something resembling it. That's what I've been asking you to do.
@ca9999 It's not so much that he doesn't have mental toughness. Kobe is a great player not only because he makes those shots but because he had great support through Pau Gasol and Fisher and Artest who came through in the finals. Lebron had a triple double in Game 6 loss to Celtics. He had no real support/defence from his teammates. Plus, Celtics were phenomenal and deserved to be at the finals the way they were playing.
@TheNightHawkEye you can say whatever you want. I have seen Kobe play for 15 years and Lebron for 7. Kobe is has the mental toughness that Lebron lacks. When teams play physical against Lebron or it is a big playoff game, he disappears from those moments. Kobe seems to embrace these moments just like in game 7 against Boston, Kobe did not have a great offensive game but his defense and his 10 points in the 4th quarter helped to win his 5th title. Kobe is a far superior player than Lebron.
@ca9999 Yea you're right. Kobe would have more mental toughness as he has been playing more than twice as many years as Lebron. I would say he developed that from playing all those years with Shaq . All I'm saying is that it takes teams to win a championship. The Lakers had a good supporting cast that came through for a guy like Kobe as it kept the pressure off him. Celtics still had to worry about guys like Odom and Gasol in the paint if they did try to double team Kobe. Not true for the Cavs.
@ca9999 As for superior player, you are entitled to your opinion to think that Kobe is the best. Lebron has been the best I've seen these past few yrs. He makes tough shots. His sheer size is something Kobe does not have which is why he is so effective driving to the lane. He has speed, strength and like you said while he ain't not veteran like Kobe, his stats have improved alot since then. He is also an efficient defender/chasedown blocks. I've never seen a guy with such strength and skill!
@TheNightHawkEye Lebron teams had the best record in 09 and 2010. Before the playoffs, every media pundit had the Cavs the deppest team and the team to beat in the NBA. All of a sudden, when Lebron choked or quitted against the Celtics, now he dont have a team. I do not buy that theory. Lebron showed no leadership or maturity how he lost to the Celtics and how he left the Cavs. That is why Kobe is the best player in the game. Lebron still cant perform in tough playoff games.
@TheNightHawkEye Kobe is the better shooter than Lebron. Kobe is the better man to man defender. Kobe is a better team leader than Lebron. Most important, Kobe is the better clutch player and mental tougher player than Lebron. Lebron maybe more athletic but Lebron does not have the winner's intagibles like a Kobe or MJ. That is why Kobe is still the best player in the world by far.
@KrfNYC2 To have a legitimate argument for your boy LEBRICK, like winning 5 or 6 championships, then come at me with that. Until then, the Lebron is all style with no substance. Lebron is just a spoil player from you blind witnesses that acts like he is the best and never got close to sniffing a title but choking and quitting in the playoffs.
My problem with this whole Lebron situation is that the media prematurely gave him the title king without ever winning one NBA Finals game atleast a championship. Lebron has become sucked in by his own hype and self-exposure just like what Jemele Hill said. Lebron walking around like he is still MJ or Kobe while failing in the playoffs. The flexing of muscles, the clowning around in games, no hand shaking, dunkgate, and now this free agency soap opera from the Prince just shows lack of class.
@ca9999 Okay, you still haven't answered my question. You have yet to tell me how you know what goes on in Bron's mind without actually being in Bron's mind. I think that we put too much emphasis on titles when judging a players greatness. But that's another topic. If you don't answer my question with either a valid reason as to why you can judge Bron's mental state or admittance that you can't...I'm done.
@KrfNYC2 look how the Lebron played in the game 5 and 6 against Boston. You can look on his face that he lost the series. He had that same look when he lost to Orlando when he refused to shake Dwight Howard's hand. He looked lost when he got swept against San Antonio on the league's biggest stage. Lebron is nothing but an entertainer first and basketball player second. I have been saying this for years that Prince James is built for the regular season. In the big games, Lebron fails miserably.
@KrfNYC2 I have been answered your question but you refuse to accept the truth like the other Prince James' witnesses out there. But after this overrated fiasco happening tonight for which team he is signing. Many people will see that Lebron is the most egostistical player in the league without winning a ring. Lebron is the most overhyped and overrated player ever. He has the size and speed but does not have the desire to be a champion. This fiasco tonight proves what Lebron is about.
@mahiligsasuso skip was right. I do not agree with some of skip bayless comments but he is 100 percent correct about Lebrick James. Lebron is the most overhyped, over exaggerated superstar in sports history. All this hype of Lebron James in the free agency market and delivered no ring for Cavs except for excuses, lack of class and mental toughness.
If you see his expression in game 5 and 6, the kid was lost. He showed no leadership and the rest of his teammates lost their confidence along with him. If you dont see that, then you just blind.
The Lakers lasted for 48 minutes because Kobe being a true leader willed his team to a title instead of waving the white flag like Prince James did against Boston.
Skip seems to think that he knows all. He's always (on ESPN) acting as if he has the answers to everything and that he is in a position to judge everybody. He's so ridiculous..."Am I right?"...No skip...you're not.
@ca9999 What are you talking about? LeBron shits in just about every single game he plays. Big, small and everything inbetween. He's just under so much scrutinity that when the Cavs fail, people say LeBron fails. No. If it wasn't fro Bron they would be trash. It's a team game and the team couldn't go all the way. And if you want to blame a player...blame anybody but LeBron. He's their best. Balme Varejao, blame, Gibson, blame Hickson . Because they certaintly didn't do more than Bron.
@KrfNYC2 No, you are wrong dude. Did you see Game 5, that was by far the worst showing for a MVP that I can remember. He looked like the stage was to big or he did not care about the game. And game 6, there were opportunities for Prince James to win that game but he turnover the ball in crucial moments of that game. Kobe in game 7 against the Celtics willed his team to a victory by scoring 10 fourth quarter points despite having a bad game. That is why Kobe is the best player in the NBA.
@ca9999 And lets not judge Bron's work ethic or his personality based on things like the hand-shaking incident. We are in no position to judge the man. And people always get on Bron for not hitting game-winners...guess what...he wins games all the time. Without LeBron the Cavs would be a lottery team. His whole career is game winners. They just last for 48 minutes. As for the playoffs, according to your logic Luke Walton has been a better performer because the Lakers win titles. Think about it.
@KrfNYC2 dude, he wins only regular season games. He hasn't won nothing in the postseason where everything counts. That what makes Kobe and MJ so special. They rose to the occasion when they had their backs against the wall. Kobe and MJ has that killer instinct and workman's mentality that Lebron sorely lacks. That is why Lebron is ringless and Kobe has 5 rings going on 6 next year. I think Lebron is inmature and got caught up in his own hype. Lebron got swept in 2007 Finals against the Spurs.
@ca9999 So what? Kobe and MJ have had better teams than Bron. Nobody wins a chip by themselves. Yes, great players play a big part in winning them, but they play a big part on a great team. Bron has the same impact, but just on a lesser team. I don't get why people don't realize that it is a team sport. Kobe needed Shaq and/or Pau, MJ needed Pippen and Bron needs help as well. By you logic you should have something against Malone, Stockton, Miller, Ewing, Barkley, Payton, Kidd...shall I go on?
@KrfNYC2 what gets to me is that every Cavs fan say Lebron do not have help. I have to disagree. The Cavs have one the deepest rosters in the NBA. They won 66 and 61 games the last two years. But Lebron fans but some are now coming to their senses, see that Lebron for the last two years is making more excuses for his playoff failures. It is a team sport but your leader has to lead the way like Kobe, MJ, Magic, Bird, and Olajuwon did.
@ca9999 Yeha he has some players, but the team needs to connect. There's way more that goes into making a championsip team than roster talent. I'm assuming. It's not a video game.
@KrfNYC2 this where your boy Lebron got to bring them together instead of clowning around and not holding players responsible. You say that he is committed. I dont think he is committed by how he looked in game 4, 5, and 6 against the Celtics. He looked lost and not wanting to be there like when he ducked the media last year against Orlando. The only player that wanted it the most was Shaq for god sake and he is 37 years old. Are you kidding me? Lebron do not have the winning intangibles.
@KrfNYC2 Lebron dont have many game winners like Kobe or MJ. Let me educate you my friend. Kobe has as many game winning shots than any current player has combined together. Kobe has 6 game winners this year which is a record. Kobe is the best closer and leader in the game since MJ. Lebron is the best entertainer by dancing and clowning around in pre-games and during a game. Lebron is only made for Sportscenter instead of being a champion.
@ca9999 You missed my point. A game winner is an action that wins games. And that is exactly what LeBron has done...won games. He may not have hit too many game winnig buzzer beaters, but he's he's had an uncountable able of tremendous performances that WON GAMES for his team. Those are 48-minute game winners. And LeBron is just a clown? Okay...you go average 30, 8 and 8 and turn a last place team into a title contender. If you're not a fan, that's fine, but don't deny his skills.
@KrfNYC2 I do not deny his skills. There are many great players that has great stats with no rings. He is a great player but Lebron lacks the commitment to win and the mental toughness that made Kobe and MJ champions. I liked Mike Brown as a coach but when your superstar lacks that willing to will mentality and only worry about his self-image than winning. Your team will not be successful. You will never find Kobe or MJ clown around in games. They have that commitment to win.
@ca9999 This goes back to the judging. I doubt you are in a position to judge Bron's commitment. Yeah he dances...so what? You don't know what time he wakes up to train, how long he trains, how much tape he watches, how hard he studies and works. And by the way, to develop into the player he is...I think he's pretty damn committed. Even if you do know all of those things, you would than have to explore why he acts as he does. We are only what the world made us. But now I'm getting philisophical.
@KrfNYC2 When your star player clowns like that on a daily basis in games, your team will never win a title. Your star player has to set the tone. This is not judgment it is the truth.
@ca9999 Says who? Because I think any owner, coach, mamanger, player etc. would love to have LeBron's talent even if it comes with some dancing. Peopl need to appreciate LeBron (and Kobe) before their greatness is gone. Think about it, 40 years from now do we want our generation to be telling our grandkids about how LeBron (and Kobe) were not determined and overhyped and this and that. That is not how greta players should be remembered, That would be a shame.
@KrfNYC2 I think people will remember Kobe because I believe Kobe will be up there with MJ and Magic as one the greatest players ever to play with. Lebron will probably be the best player not to win a title with the hype as the Chosen One or the Choken One by some people.
@ca9999 I don't subscribe to the idea that a player needs a ring to be vindicated as a great. Derek Fisher has 5 titles and Ewing, Malone, Barkley never won one. Anyway, this argument is round about. I bet you people were saying the sam ething about MJ when he didn't win a ring in his first 6 seasons. And if you want to put so much emphasis on tema success...Bron has a had a way greater team impact than MJ during hsi first six years. (I know Bron has played 7).Don't bug out, I know MJ is better.
@KrfNYC2 MJ and Kobe are both winners. Lebron is not even close to those two great players. He has great stats but he dont come through in big games. When he loses, it is a million excuses like his game 6 post game interview, he was more focus about his free agency status than the game. I think Lebron plays for only his self image instead of winning. It shows every time he gets owned in the playoffs and he needs to learn a post up move and work more on his mid range game.
@ca9999 LeBron shows up...the Cavs don't as a team (I'm not saying that everybody but LeBron chokes). And The Bulls and Lakers won titles...not just MJ and Kobe.
@KrfNYC2 where was Lebron in game 5 of the Celtic series and the fourth quarter of game 6. he was a no show. Where was Lebron in the Finals against the Spurs and then San Antonio swept the Cavs. Lebron is 0-2 in game 7's in his career. Where Kobe is 4-1 in game 7's. Lebron do not show up to play in the big games. He chokes or quits that is the truth dude. I do not agree with Skip on some things but Skip is right when he says Lebron do not have winning intangibles. He does not.
@KrfNYC2 MJ and Kobe sets the tone for their team to follow. Lebron does not have that leadership quality. All he does is clown around and dance inmaturely with his teammates. You will never see Kobe or MJ dance or clown like that. Those guys will kill you if they see that kind of behavior. What seperates Kobe and MJ from Lebron is not only the titles but it is the leadership and the intangibles to winning. The idea of Lebron having no teammates is bogus. Lebron failed that team in the playoffs.
@ca9999 One, how do you know Bron doesn't have leadership qualities? Are you in the locker room or at practice or on the court? And just because MJ and Kobe don't dance means that Bron shouldn't? The dancing is really nothing to discuss. It's silly to read so much into...dancing. No LeBron has not been a part of a championship team...neither has Malone, Barkley, Ewing, Stockton, Payton etc. So what about them? Is Luke Walton more of a winner than them? IT IS A TEAM GAME!
@KrfNYC2 Yes it is team game but your star player has to set the tone. You cannot get all the praise when he wins but when he loses it comes from no teammates. His Cavs won 66 and 61 games over the last two years. Every media pundit and Prince James witness say this is the Cavs year. I always told them Lebron will either choke or quit on the Cavs. Behold, that is what Lebron did. The kid has talent but he just dont have that will or intangibles to be a champion. Lebron keeps proving me right.
@ca9999 Bron doesn't choke. It's not fair of us to expect him to take over every game and criticise him when he doesn't. If he scores 30 in the first 3 quarters and only 2 in the 4th than we say he choked in the fourth while he wa sthe only reason that they were even in the game. So really, the people who scored 5 points total would be the ones who choked. His numbers are phenomenal in the playoffs and without him the Cavs would be a lottery team. Just give the man his props b.
@KrfNYC2 What has ESPN proclaimed him to be. The so-called Chosen One but I refer him to the Choken One. Like I said it is much more about just stats, it is how you accumulate stats into championships. You just blind to the point because you is one of those Prince James witnesses. Kobe and MJ accumulated stats into titles. Lebron just disappears in big games in the playoffs and making excuses like his elbow or no teammates. That dont wash with me.
@KrfNYC2 where was he in the biggest game of the season and his career in Game 5 against Boston? In which turned to a 32 point ass whooping in Lebron's house. Lebron did not even care or show emotion like a Kobe or MJ would have in a huge game like that. Kobe or MJ would never let a team beat them like that in their own arena. The kid has talent but no mental toughness and his teammates followed his lead of having no mental toughness.
@ca9999 Kobe and MJ don't matter. I'm not saying that LeBron is better or worse than Kobe and we know that he's not as good as MJ right now. My problem with what you are saying is that you are making claims that you can't support. You said, "The kid as talent but no mental toughness". Right there you are claiming to know the condition of LeBron's mind. You are not in his mind so how can you say such a thing?
u guys should stop freaking complaining before he dunks on you
MrRockinSG 1 week ago
i just saw the video on youtube this guy is a lying bitch
lebron6theking 2 weeks ago
I was wondering if he can use lebron a porp in the dunk contest this year?
ucantkillrocknroll82 4 weeks ago
the black fat girl its nice :)
johntrabosta1 1 month ago
this guy needs to shut the fuck up and find an actual day job
MrEricdraven23 3 months ago
people still think that he got dunked on. ha. no not at all
bkthaking 4 months ago
"King" James got OWNED. Stop being a jest for Nike, and don't confiscate video. Wuss.
stupidstt 4 months ago
This is probably the most unbias opinion of Lebron James.
pssthoychin 4 months ago
How do they know that it wasn't actually Nike that wanted it down?
tSAfterMath 4 months ago
@tSAfterMath Because it clearly says in the video that LeBron asked Nike to take it down..
Dameit15 2 months ago
@Dameit15 It says "Reportedly" thats what happened
tSAfterMath 2 months ago
wizards fans love jordan crawford! :D
aznpowerdaniel 5 months ago 3
skip tells the truth about lebrick i cant believe people are barely starting to realize the truth about lebron
makevali217 6 months ago
How can you hate Skip? He's been 100% correct about LeBron.
cmbuvi92 7 months ago
I actually like Bayless. He is entertaining and despite the fact he hates Lebron, he can make people think, which I find a good thing even if he hates Lebron so much
UltumiateNBAFan 7 months ago
LMAO I love Skip Bayless... best LeChoke critic of all time!!
QUIKKSTAR 7 months ago
hah "hi my name is carlos" baby , hangover reference lol
jRoxSOS 8 months ago
look closely Lebron travels in the background.
FunnyRandomShitLoL 8 months ago
I love Skip Bayless because he's the only analyst that actually tells the truth.
Orangeman411 8 months ago 3
@Orangeman411 not about everything but he does tell the truth about Lebron
lrod132 7 months ago
Skip Bayless never says anything intelligent
jhuerta11 8 months ago
@jhuerta11 maybe but he's just telling the truth
iren1111 8 months ago
@iren1111 maybe he just doesnt know the truth
jhuerta11 8 months ago
i saw that video did yall see that bitch ass nigga get dunked on
NBAfuture2 9 months ago
Mrdefone= fat fuck his avg's are:
30 cheeseburgers per minute
8 fries per bite
8 sodas a frie.
Stfu you dumbass, sure the most versitile player in the league is overated? go and overate your Mcdonalds apetite, fatty
BlaZiiNxIIxGuNn3R 9 months ago
i swear i would fuck this guy up if i see him
beastlebron6 9 months ago
I can't wait till the Heat win the title this year and all the Lebron haters who know nothing about basketball will finally shutup.
adog23fool 10 months ago
@adog23fool what the fuck you talkinng if he wins no one will care because he had to join d-wade's team cuz lebron is a little bitch
NBAfuture2 9 months ago
@NBAfuture2 You're a fucking moron. Please do us all a favor and stop saying stuff like that.
adog23fool 9 months ago
@adog23fool lol after last nights game someone will be eating his words :) how does it taste....
lilHippo 8 months ago
@adog23fool howd that work out for you?
Coolguy128 7 months ago
i think dwayne wade is a better player den kobe right now
zelem92 10 months ago
skip is bitch made hater to max what lebron do to you he doing him get over it always on jordan's dick don't get me wrong lebron got people on his too but man cmon just fuck off micheal jordan,magic,bird,had there time hell even fucking malone and he did't get shit bottom line lebron's better than kobe even though #24 a beast and go hard as fuck he not lebron in skill but in career stats yep he got the king beat except the mvp in09'10' and kobe 08' but skip you just talk about lebron too much 1.
Thekingpac2014 10 months ago
love skip's reaction at :37
KWCline91 10 months ago
hahahahahah OMG AN LBJ MVP SHIRT? give me a break. i never knew that. just..wow. he is obsessed with himself
jaronious89 11 months ago
skip bayless is the best debater in all of the media. He nails it at least 90% of the time and people who hate on him are in lebrick's mindless bitch army
mk7912 11 months ago
Well Crawford made to the NBA so I guess now is not that bad because it's almost like NBA player dunk on each other. I GUESS LOL
UltramanMebius2006 11 months ago
1:40 to 2:07 completely summarizes My hate for LeBrick James
R0M04MVP 1 year ago
lebron fails.
StFuMoThErFuCkEr 1 year ago
@sooietube Age difference.
SteelyMcBeam777 1 year ago
cavs fans hahah^
speez99 1 year ago
Skip predicted for cleve fans
those idiots. stopm hating the best bball analyst
SHAKEITSHAKETHATBEAR 1 year ago
haha "lebrick" is still funny
MidWestBalla218 1 year ago
carlos??? lmao .... dats hilariaous.... (hangover) BABY CARLOS!! lol
mishunman324 1 year ago
Lol @ NEGROXFILE comment
IcantThinkOfAname9 1 year ago
wha? Skip Payless needs his white ass kicked good by a blackman so he can learn to respect us, and a asswhooping is the only thing that would straighten him out! and they got this dumb ass Black bitch turning against her own to please these fucking whitefolks. Those people didnt have to turn over they video, it wasnt against the law.
NegroXFile 1 year ago
Princess or Queen is a more appropriate word to describe James.
ThugLifeJ 1 year ago
Jordan Crawford was a top 15 college player and is now in the NBA with the Hawks. He's not a random no one.
BTW, where's the proof that LEBRON asked for the tapes? Last time I checked, it was the NIKE guy that asked for it. Lebron even talked about it in an interview and admitted Jordan was a great player and he was expecting something to happen to him in that camp.
Can I not be the only one that fact checks?!
thatonedude675 1 year ago
of course your going to get dunked on by people jordan is in the nba now kobe has been dunked on plenty of times so had dwyane doesnt change how good they are but i agree with some of you guys who have said it dwyane and kobe are better
deanwoods52 1 year ago
dont like skip but he has some good james facts
amo652 1 year ago
There are so many adjectives to describe Lebron on how much of a sore loser and ego maniac he is.
Iranianjew4life 1 year ago
hahahaha i love when skip calls him lebrick and prince james
hippo32sweet 1 year ago
whos the lady at the left
chexmix00mix 1 year ago
Rofl I thought i was the only person who calls Lebron, " Lebrick." Lmfao. Skip has been reading my comments.
lmaostrnoob 1 year ago
hahaha i've heard this dunk on james news...I thought it was a joke~~~~~~~~~
alvin081988 1 year ago
Jemele Hill is such a dickrider...
in8senses 1 year ago
skip is rite bout prince james he suxs
crazymancia951 1 year ago
lebron james is overrated
people who hate on skip
are ignoring the truth and the plain facts
on him
MrDefone211 1 year ago 70
@MrDefone211 i wouldn't say lebron is overrated but he is a poser. he's obviously no mj, and his legacy won't even be as good as kobe's because if he wins champs with miami people will always say he needed wade and bosh to do it. he'll have to leave miami.
shmero444 1 year ago
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@MrDefone211 watch the video on my page about skip bayless
jamaal1911 10 months ago
@MrDefone211 the truth and the facts? what kind of 'plain facts' are there exactly except for no rings? 2 time mvp? career avg 27-7-7? people who hate on lebron are either cleveland fans, people who are stupid enough to buy the media or fans of other stars (eg kobe). hating on anyone is dumb, you dont have to like him but please respect him as a great player....hope that skip would see this and realise that all his hatred on lebron james are from his extremely biased opinons
whoohoo117 9 months ago
@MrDefone211 SKIP IS THE HATER, that's what no one likes. Every other announcer says he looks for the negative & ignores the positive in Lebron & Ochocinco especially & you & 66 other haters who likes this comment are backing it... Wow, society is officially overrun with Haters.
Cspan1986 1 month ago
This guy is a prick.
hitmancoolio 1 year ago
Yeah hide those tapes....Wouldnt want to ruin Lebrons image...... I think Lebron took care of that allllllll my himself
Kdubslugga 1 year ago
@Kdubslugga A Nike representative took the video away. Lebron couldn't give a shit.
TheNightHawkEye 1 year ago
Kobe Bryant is the best and Skip it's not Prince it's Princess.
wcmaster26 1 year ago 49
@wcmaster26 Lebitch fans are nth but fugly fat people who don't shit about basketball .
heavyrain24 1 year ago
What LeBRAT is doing is not being competitive,its being a big COWARD...And no matter how many rings he will win by teaming up with 2 of the top players in the NBA,it will never dignify him as a REAL CHAMPION as compared to Jordan,Kobe,Magic,Russell and Bird who won it by being the leader of a team in a competitive way and not by a cowardly way..
Like Michael Jordan said.. Kobe Bryant is better.. And he said it in a way that,kobe or lebron? Kobe of course..its a no brainer..
ca9999 1 year ago
We all should UNDERSTAND LeBrick..He is so desperate after Kobe got his 5th ring and man, 5 vs ZERO is such a pale comparison already.. And no matter how bloggers like Gay Kerby and Kelly Gayer try to sugarcoat the SELFISH move by Prince James.
ca9999 1 year ago
Skip drops the Truth....Lebron is an attention whore
gunmetaltc05 1 year ago 2
When Kobe retires from the game, NBA has it work cut out because of this new breed of self-promotional superstars beginning with the new generation's leader Prince James. The only player I see that can take Kobe's place when he retires is Durant. I just hope Durant does not get into this media circus promotional tour like Lebron James has done.
ca9999 1 year ago
I will say this. People should appreciate Kobe Bryant a lot much after the heartless and ringless king ran to Miami to play under Wade. Kobe is the last of true great players like MJ, Magic, Bird, and Isiah. It takes a special player to bond, mold, and lead a team to a championship. Lebron wanted the cowardly way trying to win a title by teaming with D Wade and Bosh. When Miami fail next season, which they will, what is Lebron's excuse this time around?
ca9999 1 year ago
Now, Prince James abandoned the Cavs to ride on the coat tail of D Wade. Lebron has confirmed my belief that he cannot lead a team to a title. This so called super team will fail because Lebron will kill the chemistry in Miami. Lebron should never be compared to a Kobe Bryant or MJ. ESPN has lost its credibility as a real sports channel by airing this overrated superstar where he is playing. NBA fans should appreciate great players like Kobe, MJ, Magic, and Bird even more after this fiasco.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 Again, you have no proof of any of his personality traits because you are not in his mind or heart. But we can dead this conersation because it seems like you are a typical judgemental fan who has nothing valid to say. I have no problem with 'The Decision" or him leaving Cleveland. (Based off of what I see on TV) He doesn't owe any thing to anybody. I wish LeBron the best and I hope you will too.
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 You just do not want to accept the undisputed truth. Lebron by signing with the Heat proved he does not have the guts or mental toughness to win a title as the man. Prince James took the easy way out. Although he will not win a title in Miami this year but Lebron always proves me right about being more of a Robin than a Batman. You just like many of these Prince James fanbasethat are blind to this kid's shortcomings. I have watched basketball close to 30 years and Lebron is overrated.
ca9999 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 Can you imagine a Kobe, MJ, Bird, or Magic trying to team with other superstars. the answer is hell no. Those four guys wanted the challenge to lead their team to a championship as the man. Lebron just do not have the stomach or focus to lead a team to a title. I do not want no halfbrained fan trying to compare this overrated player to true greats like MJ, Kobe, Magic, or Bird. Lebron is now a Robin instead of a Batman. I have been saying that about Lebrick James for years.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 Kobe had Shaq, and now he has Pau, Odom and Artest. MJ had Pippen and Rodman. Magic had Kareem and James Worthy and Bird had McHale and Parrish. Everybody wants to win, and no player in the history of the NBA has done so without the help of other great players. The only difference with LeBron is that he had to go elsewere to find them. And what's wrong with that?
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 Let me educate you my friend. Reggie Miller and Jeff Van Gundy stated that Kobe or MJ would never try to collude with other superstars trying to win a title like what Prince James did. Leaders make their counterparts play harder and that is why Kobe and MJ is so great. Lebron figured out that he cannot lead a team to a title as being the leading man. Lebron needed a closer like Wade because he lacks that instinct. Lebron mind set his more of a Robin than a Batman.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 Again, you aren't in Bron's mind so you can't say what goes on inside of it. Also, I don't care what Van Gundy and Miller say.Bron is the best player in the league, most likely, but hasn't been on the best team. This is why I say that we put too much emphasis on rings,becaue we end up bashing great players instead of reognizing their greatness as we should. James is a closer, just not a buzzer-beater hitter. MJ couldn't lead the bulls toatitle until Pippen and Rodman came along...
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 Lebron is not the best player in the league. He is not close to being the best player because of his playoff failures and quitting. Kobe is the best player in the NBA. I am going to ask you this question to see if you one of these blind Prince James witnesses or a real basketball fan. Do you think Lebron quit or choked in game 5 and game 6 against Boston? In Miami, D Wade is the best player on that team.
ca9999 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 Lebron is a great player but I always thought the media overhyped this kid to something he is not. Lebron over the years begin to believe in his own hype with these silly dance routines, fake picture taking, and the flexing. Kobe is still the best player in the league because he is a leader of men, mentally tough, an asssasin in the fourth quarter, and he wins championships. Lebron does not have those qualities and that is why he went to Miami to team with Wade.
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ca9999 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 dude, Lebron is not a closer. I see that you are another Lebron James misguided fan. The best closers I have seen over the last 27 years of watching basketball is MJ, Kobe, Reggie Miller, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson and Isiah Thomas. Those guys had that killer instinct that opponents fear. Most important, five of them won championships. You would ask most GMs and players who is the player you fear to play in today's NBA, it will be Kobe. Kobe is the last of the old school players.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 I never said that LeBron was THE BEST closer. But he does play well int he 4th quarter often. I'm not misguided, I just reckognize his talent.
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 Did you know Wilt Chamberlain had far more superior stats than MJ. But what made MJ better than Wilt is because he lead his team to 6 championships to Wilt 2 championships. Stats do not mean nothing until you win championships. To be a true great player, you have to produce stats along with championships. That is why Kobe is the superior and better player than your boy Prince James. It is insulting to compare Prince James to legends like Kobe and MJ in my opinion
ca9999 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 I give you this point, Lebron is probably the best driver to basket in NBA history. But his overall game is still raw. He did somewhat improve his jump shooting but we saw in the Boston Celtic series that he is still not a consistent jump shooter. I always think that is biggest flaw which is inconsistent jump shooting. Also, Lebron shoots on 76 percent from the line. That is mediocre. I have seen Prince James missed crucial free throws in big games like in games 5 and 6 against Boston
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 I never said that Bron wa THE BEST closer. I agree that Kobe,MJ etc are better closers. I suggest uou read my comments more carefully before responding.
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 you said Lebron is a closer and the best player in the game. You are wrong on both accounts. Then you asked me that why you are a misguided Lebron fan. I can write a novel on your misguidance. All Lebron witnesses use the same argument about you being the best without winning a title. What make players legends? Players like MJ, Kobe, Magic, and Bird are legends because they led their teams to titles. All of you Lebron lovers like throw stats.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 Tell me, what have I said that makes you think I am misguided?
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ca9999 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 That is why Kobe is far more superior because of his will to take over a game in the playoffs. At times, Lebron looks uncomfortable in pressure situations especially in the playoffs. That is why his Cavs have not won a championship in 7 years. I have said this and I will say it again, Lebron is the most overhype and overrated star in sports history. Lebron is only a great regular season player that puts on a good show but disappears in the playoffs. I just laugh at you Lebron supporters
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 Okay, look at LeBron's playof numbers and tell me that he doesn't perform. He can't win a championship all by himself, and neiher could Jordan. All they can do is their part and hope that the contributions of others are good enough to win title. If Jordan did't play with Pippen, he stll would have been just as good of a player...correct? But The Bulls may not have won any championships. So the idea that stats and idividual performance mean nothing and titles are everthing is ridicuous.
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@KrfNYC here we go again with Lebron having no teammates. That is an poor excuse. I can see if Lebron was stuck with team that won like 41 or 42 games in a season and you have a point. Dude, this team won 66 and 61 games in 09 and 10. Lebron could not push or lead this team to a title. Championships are won with strong leaders like Kobe or MJ. Look at Kobe after game 5 loss to Boston, he jumped on his team to play harder and they responded. Lebron in game 5 showed no leadership and quitted.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 exactly. MJ went through years of losing and crap with the bulls in the 80's and never quit. He showed his worth in the playoffs and played better with the pressure rising. Lebron made some of the dumbest plays in the series vs. the celtics in the final seconds. What I hate the most is when lebron makes a fuckin tv show to announce his decision. and he doesn't even tell the team he's leaving that he's leaving. He's not a competitor, and he has no class.
chandthruk 1 year ago
@chandthruk Have you met LeBron? Do you kno what he is like through the experience of talking to him or being aroun him? Or are you just going off of what you see and hear in the media? Because that onl shows a small percentage of his life. The rest is private.
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@chandthruk i absolutely agree, dude. Maybe I am an old-school type of fan but this league with its young superstars like Lebron is destroying the game. The only true great old school player left in this league is Kobe Bryant. Prince James problem is that he put entertainment before winning. That does not work. MJ, Kobe, Magic, and Bird was dedicated to only winning first. That is a lost art with the younger stars in the game today.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 By the way, according to you, MJ was overrated and overhyped from '84-'90 because he didn't win any championships, or even get to a finals, like Bron. Bottom line, Bron has had more team sucess in his first 6 years than Jodan did in his first 6 (granted he won the title in his 7th). So using your logic, Bron was better in his first 6 seasons than Jordan in his first 6...because like yo said, it's all about the rings and Bron came closer than Jordan did until '91. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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ca9999 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 Dude, you play to win championships. I have seen MJ in his early years and MJ was a fierce competitor but he never gave up on his Bulls team and teammates even through the bad years. Prince James left Cleveland because he could not handle the pressure of being "The Man" and try to take the easy road to a title in Miami by teamming with the second best player in world behind Kobe which is D Wade. Lebron should not ever be mentioned in the same breath of a MJ or even Kobe.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 I'm suprised it took you this long to mention Miami.I've no problem with it.He played out his contract and decided to take his talents elsewere in pursuit of a chip.Can you blame him?You were just saying how he'll never be this or that until he gets a ring, and when he tries to do that you bash him for it.Everyones been criticising him for not winning a title,and than we criticise him for trying to.The emphasis that people like you put on titles is why players like Bron sign elsewere.
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 but by him signing with Miami, he will never be compared to great competitors or champions like Kobe or MJ. Lebron took the easy way out to team with Wade. If Miami come up short in the playoffs, Prince James will make the excuse like always it is not my fault. In my opinion, the so-called three kings in Miami is not going to work because of Prince James selfish ego and his inability to perform in big games. Kobe and the Lakers will win his 6th title.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 Yeah, the fans probably won't think that he is on the same level as Jordan or Kobe, but that doesn't make them right. My problem IS indeed that very perception that changing teams makes you lesser of a player. If by taking the easy way out you mean going to the team that had the best chance of winning a title than yeah...he took th easy way out...an what's wrong with that? And the rest of what you say is merley specualtion.
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ca9999 1 year ago
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@KrfNYC2 That is why Lebron does not have a competitior's mentality. MJ and Magic Johnson just stated that they would never join the top superstars to win a title. That is what wrong with these young superstars in the league trying to find the easy way to win. Sports is about competition. To be the best, you must beat the best not by trying to build a so-called superteam. That is why MJ, Kobe, Magic, and Bird are true warriors not Prince James.
ca9999 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 Lebron is not even close to the level of a Kobe or Lebron. That is an insult by putting Prince James in that conversation with two of the best winners ever to play. Lebron just add more excuses and failures of coming up short in big games. Lebron had his chances to be in that conversation with MJ and Kobe of being all time great but he destroyed that by joining Wade and Bosh in Miami. Lebron just never had that killer instinct or winning intangibles to win a title as the main man.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 Kobe isn't even close to Jordan either.
comerbp82 1 year ago
@comerbp82 Kobe is in the conversation, you cant deny that. Kobe has won 5 rings as the main man and as being option 1A with Shaq. Kobe is the closest player to MJ than any player in the league because of his drive to win and his leadership.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 I can deny it, because Kobe isn't as good at Jordan was. I watched Jordan win all 6 of his championships, and probably watched 75% of the games he played over the course of his career... and I watched Kobe win all 5 of his championships, and watched a large % of his games.
He isn't as good. He has flashes of being as good, but the consistency isn't there. And you only have to look at a stats comparison to see what I'm talking about. He is the closest, but its a distant second.
comerbp82 1 year ago
@comerbp82 that is the point i am making. Kobe is the closest player to MJ. If Kobe can pull out some more titles than he can creep closer to MJ status. Clearly, Kobe is the best player in the world today.
ca9999 1 year ago
@comerbp82 I have watched the NBA for 27 years dude. I have watched MJ, Magic, Bird, Isiah, Walter Davis, Dr. J, Wilkins and other greats. MJ is regarded as the greatest player ever. But you cannot deny some of Kobe accomplishments has as a player.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 course not, hes a very good player. But he's not comparable to Jordan, outside of showing how good Jordan really was.
comerbp82 1 year ago
@comerbp82 kobe is a very great player more than very good. Kobe is in the top 5 of all time greats. Kobe is the last of old school players left in the NBA.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 last of the old school? Kobe isn't old school. His time spent in the league was after handchecking was removed. He's playing in a league where offensives are inflated due to restrictions on defensive players. If anything, he's the first of the new-age players.
Would I put Kobe in the top 5? Sure, because he's clutch. But he doesn't even come close to Jordan. Who was not only "Mr Clutch"... he was incredibly consistent, while doing it in a much more competitive defensive league.
comerbp82 1 year ago
@comerbp82 Hey "Mr. Cluth" is Jerry West!
MrTveit14 1 year ago
@ca9999 You've probably repsonded to me with about 50 comments and repeated youself in 47 of them. You don't answer my questions, you disregard the points that I make and you might as well be talking to yourself because you're preventing this conversation from going anywere. The next time you repeat yourself, avoid my logic or continue to contribute to a round about argument in any way...I'm done.
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 Because you make the same lame excuse for Lebron James. Face it, he is the most overhyped superstar I can remember. He is no MJ man he is no Kobe. Lebron is just a player that gots talent but does not have the mental focus to win as the main man. You Lebron supporters makes the same pitiful ass excuses that makes no sense. You have the right to support Prince James but the dude has no heart of a champion. He will be a great sidekick for Wade.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 You say that LeBron has no mental toughness...I ask you how you know that sinc your not inside LeBron's mind...You repeat that Bron has no metal toughness and don't answer my question. You say that Bron is no MJ or Kobe...I tell you that I am not saying Bron is better or worse than MJ or Kobe...You continue to tell me that Bron is no MJ or Kobe. I ask you why no TEAM titles makes an INDIVIDUAL overrated...you don't answer. I'm done.
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@KrfNYC the reason why I am repeating because you are just like the many other blind Lebron witnesses. I do not want to sound like Dan Gilbert but look at all the playoffs losses in his career. Lebron did not go out in a fight against those teams. You just dont want to believe the truth about your boy being soft or having no mental toughness. But Lebron always prove me right and you Prince James lovers wrong year in and year out.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 Okay, so if I'm blind that means I can't see things. Show me...what can't I see? And don't just says "LeBron is that and that because it's just obvious"...give me some concrete evidence or at least something resembling it. That's what I've been asking you to do.
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@ca9999 It's not so much that he doesn't have mental toughness. Kobe is a great player not only because he makes those shots but because he had great support through Pau Gasol and Fisher and Artest who came through in the finals. Lebron had a triple double in Game 6 loss to Celtics. He had no real support/defence from his teammates. Plus, Celtics were phenomenal and deserved to be at the finals the way they were playing.
TheNightHawkEye 1 year ago
@TheNightHawkEye you can say whatever you want. I have seen Kobe play for 15 years and Lebron for 7. Kobe is has the mental toughness that Lebron lacks. When teams play physical against Lebron or it is a big playoff game, he disappears from those moments. Kobe seems to embrace these moments just like in game 7 against Boston, Kobe did not have a great offensive game but his defense and his 10 points in the 4th quarter helped to win his 5th title. Kobe is a far superior player than Lebron.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 Yea you're right. Kobe would have more mental toughness as he has been playing more than twice as many years as Lebron. I would say he developed that from playing all those years with Shaq . All I'm saying is that it takes teams to win a championship. The Lakers had a good supporting cast that came through for a guy like Kobe as it kept the pressure off him. Celtics still had to worry about guys like Odom and Gasol in the paint if they did try to double team Kobe. Not true for the Cavs.
TheNightHawkEye 1 year ago
@ca9999 As for superior player, you are entitled to your opinion to think that Kobe is the best. Lebron has been the best I've seen these past few yrs. He makes tough shots. His sheer size is something Kobe does not have which is why he is so effective driving to the lane. He has speed, strength and like you said while he ain't not veteran like Kobe, his stats have improved alot since then. He is also an efficient defender/chasedown blocks. I've never seen a guy with such strength and skill!
TheNightHawkEye 1 year ago
@TheNightHawkEye Lebron teams had the best record in 09 and 2010. Before the playoffs, every media pundit had the Cavs the deppest team and the team to beat in the NBA. All of a sudden, when Lebron choked or quitted against the Celtics, now he dont have a team. I do not buy that theory. Lebron showed no leadership or maturity how he lost to the Celtics and how he left the Cavs. That is why Kobe is the best player in the game. Lebron still cant perform in tough playoff games.
ca9999 1 year ago
@TheNightHawkEye Kobe is the better shooter than Lebron. Kobe is the better man to man defender. Kobe is a better team leader than Lebron. Most important, Kobe is the better clutch player and mental tougher player than Lebron. Lebron maybe more athletic but Lebron does not have the winner's intagibles like a Kobe or MJ. That is why Kobe is still the best player in the world by far.
ca9999 1 year ago 6
@KrfNYC2 To have a legitimate argument for your boy LEBRICK, like winning 5 or 6 championships, then come at me with that. Until then, the Lebron is all style with no substance. Lebron is just a spoil player from you blind witnesses that acts like he is the best and never got close to sniffing a title but choking and quitting in the playoffs.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 And is MJ better because of his individual showcase on the court or because of his teams performance (championships)? Which one is it?
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 MJ and Kobe are legends because of their individual showcases and their dedication to winning championships at any means necessary.
ca9999 1 year ago
My problem with this whole Lebron situation is that the media prematurely gave him the title king without ever winning one NBA Finals game atleast a championship. Lebron has become sucked in by his own hype and self-exposure just like what Jemele Hill said. Lebron walking around like he is still MJ or Kobe while failing in the playoffs. The flexing of muscles, the clowning around in games, no hand shaking, dunkgate, and now this free agency soap opera from the Prince just shows lack of class.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 Okay, you still haven't answered my question. You have yet to tell me how you know what goes on in Bron's mind without actually being in Bron's mind. I think that we put too much emphasis on titles when judging a players greatness. But that's another topic. If you don't answer my question with either a valid reason as to why you can judge Bron's mental state or admittance that you can't...I'm done.
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 look how the Lebron played in the game 5 and 6 against Boston. You can look on his face that he lost the series. He had that same look when he lost to Orlando when he refused to shake Dwight Howard's hand. He looked lost when he got swept against San Antonio on the league's biggest stage. Lebron is nothing but an entertainer first and basketball player second. I have been saying this for years that Prince James is built for the regular season. In the big games, Lebron fails miserably.
ca9999 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 I have been answered your question but you refuse to accept the truth like the other Prince James' witnesses out there. But after this overrated fiasco happening tonight for which team he is signing. Many people will see that Lebron is the most egostistical player in the league without winning a ring. Lebron is the most overhyped and overrated player ever. He has the size and speed but does not have the desire to be a champion. This fiasco tonight proves what Lebron is about.
ca9999 1 year ago
1:36 i made it a ringtone :) LEBRICK HAS SHOT NOTHING BUT AIRBALLS! haha
mahiligsasuso 1 year ago
@mahiligsasuso skip was right. I do not agree with some of skip bayless comments but he is 100 percent correct about Lebrick James. Lebron is the most overhyped, over exaggerated superstar in sports history. All this hype of Lebron James in the free agency market and delivered no ring for Cavs except for excuses, lack of class and mental toughness.
ca9999 1 year ago
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If you see his expression in game 5 and 6, the kid was lost. He showed no leadership and the rest of his teammates lost their confidence along with him. If you dont see that, then you just blind.
ca9999 1 year ago
The Lakers lasted for 48 minutes because Kobe being a true leader willed his team to a title instead of waving the white flag like Prince James did against Boston.
ca9999 1 year ago
Skip seems to think that he knows all. He's always (on ESPN) acting as if he has the answers to everything and that he is in a position to judge everybody. He's so ridiculous..."Am I right?"...No skip...you're not.
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 he either quit or jusr choked big time under the pressure. I always thought Prince James always came up short in the big games.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 What are you talking about? LeBron shits in just about every single game he plays. Big, small and everything inbetween. He's just under so much scrutinity that when the Cavs fail, people say LeBron fails. No. If it wasn't fro Bron they would be trash. It's a team game and the team couldn't go all the way. And if you want to blame a player...blame anybody but LeBron. He's their best. Balme Varejao, blame, Gibson, blame Hickson . Because they certaintly didn't do more than Bron.
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 No, you are wrong dude. Did you see Game 5, that was by far the worst showing for a MVP that I can remember. He looked like the stage was to big or he did not care about the game. And game 6, there were opportunities for Prince James to win that game but he turnover the ball in crucial moments of that game. Kobe in game 7 against the Celtics willed his team to a victory by scoring 10 fourth quarter points despite having a bad game. That is why Kobe is the best player in the NBA.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 And lets not judge Bron's work ethic or his personality based on things like the hand-shaking incident. We are in no position to judge the man. And people always get on Bron for not hitting game-winners...guess what...he wins games all the time. Without LeBron the Cavs would be a lottery team. His whole career is game winners. They just last for 48 minutes. As for the playoffs, according to your logic Luke Walton has been a better performer because the Lakers win titles. Think about it.
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 dude, he wins only regular season games. He hasn't won nothing in the postseason where everything counts. That what makes Kobe and MJ so special. They rose to the occasion when they had their backs against the wall. Kobe and MJ has that killer instinct and workman's mentality that Lebron sorely lacks. That is why Lebron is ringless and Kobe has 5 rings going on 6 next year. I think Lebron is inmature and got caught up in his own hype. Lebron got swept in 2007 Finals against the Spurs.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 So what? Kobe and MJ have had better teams than Bron. Nobody wins a chip by themselves. Yes, great players play a big part in winning them, but they play a big part on a great team. Bron has the same impact, but just on a lesser team. I don't get why people don't realize that it is a team sport. Kobe needed Shaq and/or Pau, MJ needed Pippen and Bron needs help as well. By you logic you should have something against Malone, Stockton, Miller, Ewing, Barkley, Payton, Kidd...shall I go on?
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 what gets to me is that every Cavs fan say Lebron do not have help. I have to disagree. The Cavs have one the deepest rosters in the NBA. They won 66 and 61 games the last two years. But Lebron fans but some are now coming to their senses, see that Lebron for the last two years is making more excuses for his playoff failures. It is a team sport but your leader has to lead the way like Kobe, MJ, Magic, Bird, and Olajuwon did.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 Yeha he has some players, but the team needs to connect. There's way more that goes into making a championsip team than roster talent. I'm assuming. It's not a video game.
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 this where your boy Lebron got to bring them together instead of clowning around and not holding players responsible. You say that he is committed. I dont think he is committed by how he looked in game 4, 5, and 6 against the Celtics. He looked lost and not wanting to be there like when he ducked the media last year against Orlando. The only player that wanted it the most was Shaq for god sake and he is 37 years old. Are you kidding me? Lebron do not have the winning intangibles.
ca9999 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 Lebron dont have many game winners like Kobe or MJ. Let me educate you my friend. Kobe has as many game winning shots than any current player has combined together. Kobe has 6 game winners this year which is a record. Kobe is the best closer and leader in the game since MJ. Lebron is the best entertainer by dancing and clowning around in pre-games and during a game. Lebron is only made for Sportscenter instead of being a champion.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 You missed my point. A game winner is an action that wins games. And that is exactly what LeBron has done...won games. He may not have hit too many game winnig buzzer beaters, but he's he's had an uncountable able of tremendous performances that WON GAMES for his team. Those are 48-minute game winners. And LeBron is just a clown? Okay...you go average 30, 8 and 8 and turn a last place team into a title contender. If you're not a fan, that's fine, but don't deny his skills.
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 I do not deny his skills. There are many great players that has great stats with no rings. He is a great player but Lebron lacks the commitment to win and the mental toughness that made Kobe and MJ champions. I liked Mike Brown as a coach but when your superstar lacks that willing to will mentality and only worry about his self-image than winning. Your team will not be successful. You will never find Kobe or MJ clown around in games. They have that commitment to win.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 This goes back to the judging. I doubt you are in a position to judge Bron's commitment. Yeah he dances...so what? You don't know what time he wakes up to train, how long he trains, how much tape he watches, how hard he studies and works. And by the way, to develop into the player he is...I think he's pretty damn committed. Even if you do know all of those things, you would than have to explore why he acts as he does. We are only what the world made us. But now I'm getting philisophical.
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 When your star player clowns like that on a daily basis in games, your team will never win a title. Your star player has to set the tone. This is not judgment it is the truth.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 Says who? Because I think any owner, coach, mamanger, player etc. would love to have LeBron's talent even if it comes with some dancing. Peopl need to appreciate LeBron (and Kobe) before their greatness is gone. Think about it, 40 years from now do we want our generation to be telling our grandkids about how LeBron (and Kobe) were not determined and overhyped and this and that. That is not how greta players should be remembered, That would be a shame.
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 I think people will remember Kobe because I believe Kobe will be up there with MJ and Magic as one the greatest players ever to play with. Lebron will probably be the best player not to win a title with the hype as the Chosen One or the Choken One by some people.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 I don't subscribe to the idea that a player needs a ring to be vindicated as a great. Derek Fisher has 5 titles and Ewing, Malone, Barkley never won one. Anyway, this argument is round about. I bet you people were saying the sam ething about MJ when he didn't win a ring in his first 6 seasons. And if you want to put so much emphasis on tema success...Bron has a had a way greater team impact than MJ during hsi first six years. (I know Bron has played 7).Don't bug out, I know MJ is better.
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 MJ and Kobe are both winners. Lebron is not even close to those two great players. He has great stats but he dont come through in big games. When he loses, it is a million excuses like his game 6 post game interview, he was more focus about his free agency status than the game. I think Lebron plays for only his self image instead of winning. It shows every time he gets owned in the playoffs and he needs to learn a post up move and work more on his mid range game.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 LeBron shows up...the Cavs don't as a team (I'm not saying that everybody but LeBron chokes). And The Bulls and Lakers won titles...not just MJ and Kobe.
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 where was Lebron in game 5 of the Celtic series and the fourth quarter of game 6. he was a no show. Where was Lebron in the Finals against the Spurs and then San Antonio swept the Cavs. Lebron is 0-2 in game 7's in his career. Where Kobe is 4-1 in game 7's. Lebron do not show up to play in the big games. He chokes or quits that is the truth dude. I do not agree with Skip on some things but Skip is right when he says Lebron do not have winning intangibles. He does not.
ca9999 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 MJ and Kobe sets the tone for their team to follow. Lebron does not have that leadership quality. All he does is clown around and dance inmaturely with his teammates. You will never see Kobe or MJ dance or clown like that. Those guys will kill you if they see that kind of behavior. What seperates Kobe and MJ from Lebron is not only the titles but it is the leadership and the intangibles to winning. The idea of Lebron having no teammates is bogus. Lebron failed that team in the playoffs.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 One, how do you know Bron doesn't have leadership qualities? Are you in the locker room or at practice or on the court? And just because MJ and Kobe don't dance means that Bron shouldn't? The dancing is really nothing to discuss. It's silly to read so much into...dancing. No LeBron has not been a part of a championship team...neither has Malone, Barkley, Ewing, Stockton, Payton etc. So what about them? Is Luke Walton more of a winner than them? IT IS A TEAM GAME!
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 Yes it is team game but your star player has to set the tone. You cannot get all the praise when he wins but when he loses it comes from no teammates. His Cavs won 66 and 61 games over the last two years. Every media pundit and Prince James witness say this is the Cavs year. I always told them Lebron will either choke or quit on the Cavs. Behold, that is what Lebron did. The kid has talent but he just dont have that will or intangibles to be a champion. Lebron keeps proving me right.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 Bron doesn't choke. It's not fair of us to expect him to take over every game and criticise him when he doesn't. If he scores 30 in the first 3 quarters and only 2 in the 4th than we say he choked in the fourth while he wa sthe only reason that they were even in the game. So really, the people who scored 5 points total would be the ones who choked. His numbers are phenomenal in the playoffs and without him the Cavs would be a lottery team. Just give the man his props b.
KrfNYC2 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 What has ESPN proclaimed him to be. The so-called Chosen One but I refer him to the Choken One. Like I said it is much more about just stats, it is how you accumulate stats into championships. You just blind to the point because you is one of those Prince James witnesses. Kobe and MJ accumulated stats into titles. Lebron just disappears in big games in the playoffs and making excuses like his elbow or no teammates. That dont wash with me.
ca9999 1 year ago
@KrfNYC2 where was he in the biggest game of the season and his career in Game 5 against Boston? In which turned to a 32 point ass whooping in Lebron's house. Lebron did not even care or show emotion like a Kobe or MJ would have in a huge game like that. Kobe or MJ would never let a team beat them like that in their own arena. The kid has talent but no mental toughness and his teammates followed his lead of having no mental toughness.
ca9999 1 year ago
@ca9999 Kobe and MJ don't matter. I'm not saying that LeBron is better or worse than Kobe and we know that he's not as good as MJ right now. My problem with what you are saying is that you are making claims that you can't support. You said, "The kid as talent but no mental toughness". Right there you are claiming to know the condition of LeBron's mind. You are not in his mind so how can you say such a thing?