"The Taqwacores" on Q TV

[TheVlogSister]

I have big issues with the "Taqwacore" movement as it's not simply about using art to better oneself and to get closer to God, it's about twisting and morphing the religion into your own comfort zone and human understanding. It's radicalism on the other liberal extreme. It frustrates me how we fail to see a just balance in the media between the extreme radical left and the extreme radical right.

[Bahariish]

Sweden loves you Michael! <3

[timetochilli]

i wish these guys can succedded ? i doubt it good job dow

[omarazam123]

God is Unknowable. But you sought to cage him and define him and bring him to me for obeisance, and I twisted my being to conform to your ever-changing whims. Your attempts to define and capture the mystery in pen and paper or in movie script never held my interest in the end. Until I realized in the vacuum of my self-hatred and goodness, I knew God all along, I just never liked the way he was explained.

[teaflax]

Being a Muslim punk is as dumb as being a Christian punk. Punk is about questioning and rebelling against authority, and there's really no greater authority than the God/Allah of whatever religion you choose to adhere to. The key is adhering, which goes contrary to all punk tenets (even if many, many punks sadly were and are highly conformist, just to non-mainstream ideals).

[TheCuteRebel]

@teaflax Like anarchy the ideology there are many strands there is no "true" anarchism , as well as there is no "true" Islam and Christianity . I think you should be happy that a religion as violent as the fundamentalist Islam has been watered down and modernised in its values .

[pista9]

Taqwa is "a love based fear or a fear based love" mmmm, sounds like the Stockholm syndrom

[therebelwaltz]

In the 1950's, American Christian churches said that dancing was evil. The kids still danced, but they didn't stop calling themselves Christians. Regressive social mores of religion CAN be reformed by young people who simply insist, in the face of all pressure, that they can be both religious AND liberated. People think that religions are much more fixed and eternal than they really are--in reality they are social institutions that can be reformed. Good job, Taqwacores. The future is yours.

[kukidoe1]

FACT. AMERICA IS THE STUPIDEST COUNTRY ON THE PLANET. WHEN WILL THEY LEARN THAT EVERYTHING YOU PUT ON SCREEN WILL BE BELIEVED BY THE EASILY SUSCEPTIBLE MORONS THAT WATCH TOO MUCH TV.

[therealmamoon]

@MrAbekabe So, you're suggesting they give up Islam, rather than giving up punk?! They are Muslim. And they are punk. They want to worship Allah with sincerity, without pretending to be 'good' Muslims to impress people like you. I would love to have an ounce of that ikhlas.

[yourenviousenemy]

This is weird and deranged. This is outside of the realm of reality.

[Britishfever456]

To not know about Islam, and then coming up with one's own version, one that would please society at large is akin to selling oneself and ones own conscious in the marketplace.

[therealmamoon]

@Britishfever456 What makes you think he doesn't know about Islam? And who is "pleasing" society.. him, or the thousands of Muslims that publicly act 'good' for status, rather than to please Allah?

[Britishfever456]

@therealmamoon If one knew, one would put it into practice. Again, what other Muslims do and who they do it for is an affair for themselves and Allah. We have to live according to whats in the Books. What you see in the videos is not whats in the Books

[therealmamoon]

@Britishfever456 fair point.

[therealmamoon]

@Britishfever456 there are a lot of people who 'know' and don't put it into practise. this doesn't mean they're not sincere, genuine people...

[Britishfever456]

@therealmamoon See, we can't fake religion. The blessing is from Allah. He guides whom He wills. We can only ask for Guidance. It's not for me or you to say who is sincere and who is genuine. We can only go by the external actions to talk about whether the approach is correct or not.

[therealmamoon]

@Britishfever456 I agree - may Allah guide me! MMK seems to be saying that the 'external actions' of the 'mainstream' Muslim community (who are trying to follow the Books the way they understand them) lead us into a situation where we can't be honest with other Muslims about who we are, and what we feel, so he expresses himself through the 'punk' movement, and follows the Books the way he understands them. What's the problem with that?

[Britishfever456]

@therealmamoon Why can't we be honest with other Muslims and what we feel? Part of 'surrendering one's will' is letting go of what we had previously believed and accepted. It's not always easy. It doesn't mean we bring something else such as punk or rock to fill that void. This is innovation, when the religion is already pure and complete. May Allah Guide us all - Ameen.

[Britishfever456]

@therealmamoon The religion doesn't exist to short change people of their desires. It exists to provide guidance (God given Guidance is higher level) for this world and the next. If we believe in the next world, surely its worth taking small sacrifices such as not inventing things within the religion?

[Britishfever456]

@therealmamoon Understanding Divine scripture has layers of understanding. There is a basic understanding for the layman. Then there is understanding for more depth.There is also scholarly understanding. It would be wrong for layman to start interpreting God given text to define it. This causes much damage to understanding and public perception of Islam.

[Britishfever456]

Surely if you don't understand something or don't feel you fit into the mainstream version of Islam, you spend time studying it? These people are trying to justify their ignorance by saying its ok to come up with ideologies based on very little knowledge, or a mix up of cultures and emotions. The purity of Islam lies in the authentic Prophetic teachings, not one that someone who converts to Islam comes up with... Thats not humbleness, thats not pious. If we accept we don't know, we can find out.

[kukidoe1]

@Britishfever456 my thoughts exactly !

[therealmamoon]

@Britishfever456 What makes you think he doesn't understand or doesn't 'know'? I agree Islam's purity lies in the authentic Prophetic teachings, but what happens when that purity is polluted by the Muslim community? Do you conform to the community, or be yourself, and let the community judge you for it?

[Britishfever456]

@therealmamoon No Muslim is takes blame for the worng doings of other Muslims. We are each responsible for our own actions.

[therealmamoon]

@Britishfever456 agreed.

[zzaarraa1]

this sounds sooo interesting, i classify myself as muslim and at the same time love rock and metal music. why should we be pulled down to such a small definition

[kukidoe1]

@zzaarraa1 Are you American?

[HitmanV3]

hes far from being a MUSLIM!! haha poor lost soul

[anashkhss]

◕‿◕ On the top of my tube a video called:

Google Earth proves that Muhammad (S) is a true prophet of God

[anashkhss]

◕‿◕ On my tube u may watch a video called:

Did Quran mention Yellowstone, America USA and was the sun setting in a muddy murky hot spring?

[zeccamcca]

could be cool. I hope it's not overbearingly anti-preachy while still being preachy if that makes any sense. whatever....PUNK FOREVER!!

[activistapress]

Using Shock-value...bitting off gg allin style and then trying to be muslim is NOT Islamic Punk.

I think it is possible to have Islamic-Punk...but NOT in this way.

So...you Drink, Smoke, F***k, and say blasphamy...yet...its somehow Still "Islamic"....

Why not just Cut-the middle man and just be PUNK? without Islam?

I mean thats the goal anyways...

[lashgari]

@activistapress The bible saw not to eat shellfish, have sex before marriage, and be homosexual. You're telling me Christians who are gay, sexually active or go to Red Lobster aren't Christian because they don't follow orthodoxy?

[DrakarOgro]

@activistapress Punk is all about creating/wearing/discovering your own identity, in spite of the rest of the world trying to make you in a specific way.

So, if part of your identity is being a muslim... You are a muslim-punk, and fuck it.

[paris8388]

this is very interesting.

[menotsane75]

I'm not buyin' thompson, kerrouace and salinger..only one of which wrote true fiction...but I am going to buy the book...alot of great writers get tossed by the wayside

for lack of the right names to drop...it sucks ass...but I don't think this one will..

-M

[Fatima74]

"i only knew muslims when they were wearing their mosque face" HAHAHAHAH LMAO

[Erythrina]

so where can i get this book? wld be an interesting read :)

[mochopz]

aha, 3 muslim dudes talking about punk rock.

fukin awesome.

[pamai123]

long live the taqwacore

[JoynJesus2]

yeah!!! Muslim punk hippies :D

[deejin25]

Quite possibly the most bizarre thing Iv'e ever heard. I like it, sort of.

[hanna0240]

damn, thats exactly how i feel, aint got a clue what to make of it, but im starting to think that maybe its ok...ish

[therealmamoon]

@hanna0240 follow ur heart. the rest will fall into place :o)

[anadbeau]

sounds like Universal Unitarians within Islam or Muslims with Universal Unitarian churches

[dto605]

Where is Eyad Zahra?

[lutes888]

no HD?