@mart22222 sorry to be a smart, but it's 'chocalho '. With the hi-hat chick you will notice Brazilian drummers get a softer more textured sound with less of the high pitch of the cymbal and the placement is a bit later instead being exactly on the centre of the '&'. Additionally beat 'duh' on the bass drum leading onto '1' and '2' is also placed late. Check out Edu Ribeiro, Erivelton Silva, Lucio Vieira, Rafael Barata youtube.com/watch?v=WydkXBMHB-U&feature=related. Best wishes!
@Cpetrodrum I'm hitting the stick on the wire of the brush whilst it's spread out on the snare drum giving a nice almost chocolo (shaker) sound and then inbetween that i slap the brush hard on the snare creating a harsher sound like a cabasa pattern.
Aww man!!! so you just made up the beat on your own? and do you have any books you recommend for learning samba like this? and double bass 32nd notes?
@saladsaregreen well yes and no, I made up the combinations i used as i went along but as i explained in the description the brush/stick concept was taught to me a by drummer with the Edmundo Ros big band and as such is a very authentic sounding samba.
I am however thinking of doing a vid explaining the technique and demonstrating at a slower pace. As regards double bass I can totally recommend the books by Joe Franco.
Ohhhhh, well if you do make that vid, that would be great!!! Also, i watched some of your students on the other videos you posted, you did a great job at teaching them.
Very nice job-sounds great. The same feel is cool with brushes in both hands too. There's a vid here on youtube with Matt Slocum playing a slight variation of this feel(two brushes) w/Sara Gazarek singing the song"More".
Cool! I've never seen this technique done before. It looks like straight sixteenths and you have patterns of 2's, 4's, and 3's in there??? Thanks for the vid...I'm gonna write this out and practice it right now :O)
Thanks, yeah the subdivision could be thought of as 16ths although from a theory point of view more likely 2 bars of 8ths (sambas generally being written in 2/2).
Actually it is really just a question of 'paradiddle' type combinations and fairly spontaneous at that, if you have ever practiced mixing paradiddles (including displaced ones) then this would give the 2's 3's and 4's that you heard.
The real tricky part is making sure the brush is firmly down when you hit it with the other stick
If your timing is slightly out then you'll hit the brush as it moves off the drum and get no sound, the other part of the technique needs the brush to gently move and sweep to create a shaker or 'Chocolo' sound as well as slapping from the wrist to get the accents, so you have 3 sounds going on, right hand stick ghost, left hand brush ghosts and left hand accents.
Actually the reason I posted this was because it's such a rare groove and I was so lucky to be taught it by a Brazilian drummer
thanks, glad you enjoyed it, do you mean the entire 26 standard British rudiments or one used on the Samba?
If the latter then no because no rudiments were actually used just combinations of 2's 3's and 4's played between hitting the brush with the right hand and sliding the brush for left hand ghosts or slapping the brush for accents.
As regards the 26 rudiments, I noticed you have Jim Chapin on your channel, to be honest I think I may be 'peeing in the You tube ocean' on that one.
Love the stuff, you may have noticed had to use quite a few thanks to the new Evans G2's, great fusion sound but really lively, hence...........loads of moongel.
excellent drummer. this is real music.
nellopinello 3 weeks ago
@mart22222 sorry to be a smart, but it's 'chocalho '. With the hi-hat chick you will notice Brazilian drummers get a softer more textured sound with less of the high pitch of the cymbal and the placement is a bit later instead being exactly on the centre of the '&'. Additionally beat 'duh' on the bass drum leading onto '1' and '2' is also placed late. Check out Edu Ribeiro, Erivelton Silva, Lucio Vieira, Rafael Barata youtube.com/watch?v=WydkXBMHB-U&feature=related. Best wishes!
somcomcoracao 1 month ago
@somcomcoracao Thanks for the input and no I don't think you're being a smart, it's nice to find a new avenues to pursue otherwise we stagnate.
Thanks for the comment
Mart
mart22222 1 month ago
GOOD DRUMMING MAN . I'M A DRUMMER TOO. :))
menzulitru 1 month ago
really nice sound man
topsutothemax 2 months ago
Where are you hitting with the stick to get that light washy sound? it sounds beautiful!
Cpetrodrum 10 months ago
@Cpetrodrum I'm hitting the stick on the wire of the brush whilst it's spread out on the snare drum giving a nice almost chocolo (shaker) sound and then inbetween that i slap the brush hard on the snare creating a harsher sound like a cabasa pattern.
mart22222 10 months ago
@mart22222 Its a great pattern man props to you! I'm trying to work it out :)
Cpetrodrum 9 months ago
Where do you get the sheet music for this song?
saladsaregreen 1 year ago
@saladsaregreen sorry mate no idea, I was just using the song as a 'vehicle' to demonstrate this technique and as such just playing it by ear.
Martin
mart22222 1 year ago
@mart22222
Aww man!!! so you just made up the beat on your own? and do you have any books you recommend for learning samba like this? and double bass 32nd notes?
saladsaregreen 10 months ago
@saladsaregreen well yes and no, I made up the combinations i used as i went along but as i explained in the description the brush/stick concept was taught to me a by drummer with the Edmundo Ros big band and as such is a very authentic sounding samba.
I am however thinking of doing a vid explaining the technique and demonstrating at a slower pace. As regards double bass I can totally recommend the books by Joe Franco.
mart22222 10 months ago
@mart22222
Ohhhhh, well if you do make that vid, that would be great!!! Also, i watched some of your students on the other videos you posted, you did a great job at teaching them.
saladsaregreen 10 months ago
@saladsaregreen Thank you.
mart22222 10 months ago
This brings a smile to my face! Thank you!!
PetClarkie 1 year ago
Is this the Stan Getz version?
MitsPSU 1 year ago
@MitsPSU
definitely no getz, since I hear no 'pffffffffffffff'
jorisjorisjoris 1 year ago
Perfect! Who is sax player?
kopalpe 1 year ago
Nice drums. Not Phonics although they look and mount very similarly... Must be GMS. If I were to play anything than Sonor it would probably be those
unicursalhex 1 year ago
Thanks, the kit is a sonorlite birch fusion (circa 89/90) but I'm also using a Black Panther black brass shell/24 karat gold hoop snare.
Martin
mart22222 1 year ago
Very nice job-sounds great. The same feel is cool with brushes in both hands too. There's a vid here on youtube with Matt Slocum playing a slight variation of this feel(two brushes) w/Sara Gazarek singing the song"More".
musicalala 2 years ago
very nice and thanks for posting
nealthedude 2 years ago
stylish and tasteful playing, as ever :)
thanks for sharing this, i've never seen that technique before - sounds great!
silvertone953 2 years ago
Thanks and yeah it is quite a rare small group Brazilian technique and It felt good to actually post something that has no youtube comparison.
I'd like to repost it without the distorted sound but it would be a shame to lose the comments.
Anyway glad you enjoyed it, maybe I should consider posting a 'how to do' vid slowing it down.
Martin
mart22222 2 years ago
@mart22222
Posting a how to video would be really a great idea! I
runz85 1 year ago
Cool! I've never seen this technique done before. It looks like straight sixteenths and you have patterns of 2's, 4's, and 3's in there??? Thanks for the vid...I'm gonna write this out and practice it right now :O)
17masonry 2 years ago
Thanks, yeah the subdivision could be thought of as 16ths although from a theory point of view more likely 2 bars of 8ths (sambas generally being written in 2/2).
Actually it is really just a question of 'paradiddle' type combinations and fairly spontaneous at that, if you have ever practiced mixing paradiddles (including displaced ones) then this would give the 2's 3's and 4's that you heard.
The real tricky part is making sure the brush is firmly down when you hit it with the other stick
tbc
mart22222 2 years ago
If your timing is slightly out then you'll hit the brush as it moves off the drum and get no sound, the other part of the technique needs the brush to gently move and sweep to create a shaker or 'Chocolo' sound as well as slapping from the wrist to get the accents, so you have 3 sounds going on, right hand stick ghost, left hand brush ghosts and left hand accents.
Actually the reason I posted this was because it's such a rare groove and I was so lucky to be taught it by a Brazilian drummer
Mart
mart22222 2 years ago
ADOREI esse som. Parabéns.
Adoro bateria,
Maria12Sousa 2 years ago
Thank you Maria, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Martin
mart22222 2 years ago
hello, very well done.
could you post the snare rudiments? thanks
dobraf123 2 years ago
thanks, glad you enjoyed it, do you mean the entire 26 standard British rudiments or one used on the Samba?
If the latter then no because no rudiments were actually used just combinations of 2's 3's and 4's played between hitting the brush with the right hand and sliding the brush for left hand ghosts or slapping the brush for accents.
As regards the 26 rudiments, I noticed you have Jim Chapin on your channel, to be honest I think I may be 'peeing in the You tube ocean' on that one.
Martin
mart22222 2 years ago
the name of the song? thanks
stefano198 2 years ago
I'll see if I can find out, it's on a latin covers cd, and was just a bargain bucket special I picked up years ago
Martin.
mart22222 2 years ago
very impressive! great work once again
davegray02 2 years ago
verrrrrrrrry nice :)
and a fellow user of moon gels no less!
skinnyandbrown09 2 years ago
Love the stuff, you may have noticed had to use quite a few thanks to the new Evans G2's, great fusion sound but really lively, hence...........loads of moongel.
Glad you enjoyed the vid
Martin
mart22222 2 years ago
nice choice of music! :) nice groove as well!
Sweet happy life!
DrummerInExile 2 years ago
awesome technique.
kimoyan 2 years ago
Lovely.
Great job on the technique! I especially enjoyed the footwork.
itsme16688 2 years ago