When you have nothing to say you start the bullshit. I pwned you i wont tell you anything more i am satisfied that i humiliated you. Thats how a real macedonian is. Greetings from macedonia.
I am not from marina but i am from naousa there is not even one slav there. Macedonia is greece!! All these people are shitty visitors that want our places. Come here and tell loud that you are from MAKEDONIJA VARDASKA..you wont be able to finish the sentence
What fucking planet are you on PowerDatsun ??? Can you not see and hear the people in the video ? they are dancing and singing in Macedonian, not Greek or Bulgarian !
You fucker these are slavic speaking skopians that come for festivals. Clear your fucking head!!! Macedonia is Greece. You are just another Shithole. Fucktard
DICKHEAD !! they are ETHNIC MACEDONIANS ! There is no such thing as a "Skopjan" you fucking clown, clear your fucking head buddy. Your country's name is GREECE, ours is MACEDONIA, YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH, ACCEPT IT AND MOVE ON IDIOT !
Hey motherfucker skopian you are just one slav i am a macedonian i was born and raised in the real macedonia not some shitty bulgarian land. Idiotic scum you are most propably an albanian or bulgarian or another slav. I am the real macedonian idiotic pig i can read what alexander wrote i can speak what alexander spoke i saw all the macedonian artifacts with my eyes and i went to aristottles school that is just out of my city. FUCKER!! Macedonia is A greek part and none has the right to steal it
i dont need a slavic peasant to tell me who i am as i told you before i am the real macedonian. You have nothing to say idiotic pig and you start talking like a kid "fuck you " etc. hahahaha MALAKA E MALAKA!!! xaxaxaxa You will never steal MY identity!! You are jealous !!!
"Slavic peasent" ? well arent you a racist piece of shit, i wonder how your Serb "brothers" may react to that comment, anyway your right i don't want to steal your identity - one that originates from Asia Minor for your kidding yourself if you think your Macedonian in any way, your most likely a prosfyga(refugee) or from Arvanitika stock ! Jealous , lol that is hilarious - the only one jealous is you stupid !
I am not racist you stupid 10 year old kid i am saying that you cant be macedonian if you are slav you idiot macedonians are only greeks. Alexander was a greek king you idiot he wrote in greek he spoke greek he behaved like a greek he was raised here macedonians competed in the olympic games where only greeks could participate etc. As for refugees from asia minor why is bad to be a refugee?? Blaim the turks for slaughtering and other things idiot for centuries asia minor was greek Read history
slavic tribes like you came here 1000 years after alexander the great you motherfucker we Hellenes are in this place for 5000 years and some stupid peasants like you come and claim our history...Well you are raised in a lie and you think you are a real macedon you poor little kid..i dont say that no one has been affected by the balkan civilization as here in macedonia our traditional songs are similar to other balkan songs.
Another nazi thing about skopians is that you think that our macedonian lands belong to you!! omg you claim a minority here there is a political party here vinozito that claims this and in the elections it gets 3000 votes from skopians claiming to be macedonian!! 3000 people are a minority?? A real one??? omg BEHAVE!!
Your political leaders have messed you up the dictatorship of gruevski the freedom of speech the constant propaganda does not make you clever it does make you slaves of interests you send your nation to kill iraqi to please the americans..you are their puppies....We deny it because we have respect for the human life and dont want to make other nations unhappy..But that is what makes us HUMAN and CIVILIZED unlike you.
Hahaha you didnt have anything to say!! hahah I KNEW IT! You dont know nothing you just claim our identity! Thanks for making yourself look like a fool. You got pwned man.
Your political leaders have messed you up the dictatorship of gruevski the freedom of speech the constant propaganda does not make you clever it does make you slaves of interests you send your nation to kill iraqi to please the americans..you are their puppies....We deny it because we have respect for the human life and dont want to make other nations unhappy..But that is what makes us HUMAN and CIVILIZED unlike you.
OMG did you say you have respect for human life, is that the joke of the century ? What were all the riots about last year in Greece my dear fellow? because you respect human life ? i don't think so. another example is the young boy from Australia who was killed in Greece whilst on holidays about a year ago now, nice Greek hospitality i must say so ! FUCKING MORON you have no idea !
We are not even in NATO and we have done more for them than Greece ever has, you are a useless partner in that organization - too scared to send troops to support your allies when most needed. Greece should be kicked out for being an absolutely unreliable partner !
Our minority in Greece is more than 3,000 i can guarantee you that, never mind the 3,000 votes for Rainbow - people have the choice to vote for who ever they like, regardless of Rainbow being a Macedonian party. STUPID !
Now you are telling me that skopians that claim to be macedonians dont vote their own propaganda . OK MAN WHATEVER. 2ndly the australian boy that was killed here was killed by some stupid club doormen what did you expect man?? As for the human life you cant judge 11 milions because one psycho police man killed a kid!!! Motherfucker put some oil on your rusty brain!! In skopje every day whoever admits the truth that you are not macedonians is taken into psychiatry clinics dont tell shit to me
And yes we have connection with the ancient greeks you idiot but we were enslaved by the turks like all the balkans then idiot but in 1830 the greek state recovered its freedom and became a country again. KID.
And yes we have connection with the ancient greeks you idiot but we were enslaved for 400 years by the turks like all the balkans at that time. The rebellion started by the greeks in 1821 continued for years of fighting and in 1830 the new greek state was recognized...IDIOT you are trying to show that you know but you know shit!
I dont need to be told anything by the goverment motherfucker i see the ancient facts here in macedonia with my own eyes. And realise that.. Macedonian is the one that lives and was born in macedonia.. Macedonia is not an other nation I am greek and i was born in macedonia idiot macedonia is a part like texas in america Fuck tard learn what it means now AND YES I AM A MACEDONIAN i was born in macedonia and raised. I am greek living in northern greece in a place where alexander spoke greek. :D
I have come across some braindead Greeks on youtube but you take the cake ! I don't know what meaning your looking for, i think your brain is working overtime !You need a history lesson bad !
How can you honsetly call yourself a Macedonian with a straight face ? Even the Ancient Greeks knew the difference between the two - why do you refuse to believe that, i mean the evidence is out there, get your head out of the sand !
I dont need my goverment to tell me i visit archaelogical sights i watch and BBC and Great historians in documentaries and i saw my macedonian culture with my bare eyes. IDIOT!!! IDIOT IDIOT!! YET ONCE AGAIN YOU DONT KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD. I HUMILIATED YOU macedonian wannabe
You think you have humiliated me but it is you who is humiliating yourself lol ! Why go to BBC because the Brits helped create your nation back in 1830 ? of course you will believe anythin British, but while you love the Brits so much you should also check out some London Times papers around the turn of the century to see the truth !
You motherfucker you are typical of your propaganda you only get caught by a phraze i say idiot i ALSO MENTIONED that i visited all the archaeological lands that are also near my city IDIOTIC bitch and i saw my macedonian culture. You IDIOT you think a nation like brits so advanced would fall in for the propaganda like you do?? It would be a hit in their prestige..Idiot these documentaries are made by historians from the biggest universities not from skopians living in mountains
I saw some skopian videos with fake newspaper cuts you idiot I myself can make you one new york times newspaper telling that skopians walked on mars. ITS THAT SIMPLE. Simple photoshop.! MORON!
Fake ? Photoshopped ? Are you serious you can see these papers in their entirety you fool but you wouldnt because you wont like what you see and hear !
I told you not to trust things that are photoshopped whereas ancient artifacts here in macedonia prove that macedonians are a greek empire. Idiot these artifacts cant be photoshopped! As for the answer you dont answer BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW!! YOU DONT!!! So pack your bags and go back to your village
Truth hurts so you pass it off as fake and photoshopped, nothing new Greece has been doing this for years, we know very well Greeks' tactics but your only kidding yourself ! Also your looking for a meaning thats not there so good luck with that !
Lol i quite like having a nice laugh at your expense, my whole life i have been referred to as Macedonian, my language that i speak has always been referred to as Macedonian, not Greek, Serbian or Bulgarian. Come to Australia and see for yourself how a true democracy works, not that fascist state you call a country.
Your own life you have been refered as macedonian which means after 1991 when americans have interest in separating you from yugoslavia hahaah i am referred as macedonian since a lot before christ was born. :D
FULL BLOODED MACEDONIAN, MACEDONIAN NATION - i know these are hard for you to comprehend for it raises questions about your own identity but TOUGH SHIT !
By the way if i ask some pseudomacedonian like you What does macedonian mean you wont be able to answer or you will search it on the internet hoping you get lucky and finding an answer
You have nothing in common with the ancient Greeks, your nation was created in 1830 by Britain & Germany, complete with Bavarian Kings ruling, Athens was a majority Albanian population & most Greeks did not identify themselves as Greek but rather Romaics or Albanians & Turks with a few Macedonians mixed in too. Igenea has proven this, plus there are many publications that state this too. The Macedonians are noted in many publications as a separate people & ethnicity during these times also.
No sweetheart, you sod off. YOU cannot steal our heritage, and our indentity. U can label watever u like us, but everyone in the world knows we arent bulgarians or serbs, there just labels to protect ur countries bullshit. im not sodding off anywhere. we are united as one, and we are never going away. we let u be, now let us fucking be, simple! we're not stealing anyones fucking history, by you imposing self indentity, thats called racism
but that what i wrote about SELF INDENTITY with these people WONT CHANGE, u can IMPOSE indentity on them, but history will tell u theyll throw in back in ur face forever and a day.
You may as well identify yourselves as Martians, Trombonians or Zaratustrians for all we care... your problem. You may side with anyone to pursue your aims (as you did with the Nazis, you insolent bastard who calls us fascist). But you will never be allowed to steal someone else's heritage, period. You need proof?? Look at what happened to your Bulgarian forefathers: their bones are still whitening the riverbeds of northern Greece - and that's a hint about identity...
with ur petty abuse, even when ur grandkids die theyll still indentify as macedonians for makedonija, not fucken greece or bulgaria or any of that bullshit. so whatever the fuck happens, that will always remain and these peoples SELF INDENTITY will NEVER change. So you go fucken weep. i cant stand how your country is soo fucken "proud" as this "one nation" bullshit. Facist if u ask anyone else. Go tell me im a bullshit "slav" or whatever other demeaning language u want to use,
there ARE fucking minorities of MAKEDONIJA people, greece will NEVER recognise it u fucks becaues i falsify ALL the factssss...........dont give us numbers n bullshit.....truth is we EXIST and we are NEVER going away. period. and we are not greek, bulgarian or any other flavour of the sickening "hellenic week...we r always Macedonians for MAcedonia United, til the END OF TIME, even when ur great grand kids DIE:))))))))))
Ahh... another expert on Greece and Balkan history, someone who lives 12.000 miles away and yet has the nerve to tell us what goes on inside our own home... Typical.
No worries mate, in about 20 years there won't be any 'Republic of Macedonia' but 'United Albania' instead... 'till-the-end-of-time' my ass. Now go weep somewhere else...
Fuck you man. You go weep somewhere else. U can throw all the numbers and statistics u want at us, the point is that these people indentify themselves as macedonians, and no not the greek type that u guys label them. that indentity is a deep seeded indentification that is in their heart and soul forever. and u CANT change that no matter how hard u try
Believe what you want Canookian... who gives a damn?? If there was a minority like that, the world would know about it by now - in the same way they do about the Muslims, the Turks, the Roma.... But even your precious McDougall wasn't able to find any, that's why she mentions "... several people, some, a few, many of those... " and no numbers at all.
yeah we are really going to wake up and think we are bulharian tomorrow, keep fucking dreaming cyllocke!!!!! just fucking sleep in peace and leave us alone !! we are MACEDONIANS, NOT GREEKS:)
Keep repeating your mantras like a good boy. We are never going to leave you alone mate, you know why?? Because we have the right to protect what we consider our own, whether you like it or not - just like you have the right to be who you want to be. Got it?? Well, you can't be anything at the expense of others, the sooner you realise that, the better for everyone.
WE are Macedonians, YOU are liars and impostors.... and most definitely NOT Greeks, I assure you.
Blah blah blah, correct we are NOT GREEKS............we ARE MACEDONIANS:) well said. Whether you leave us alone or not, we'll ALWAYS defend our basic human rights for self indentity.
Your 'basic human rights' do not justify violation of other peoples' rights. Which part of the sentence do you not understand??
Paragraph 6 of the UNGA Resolution 1514(XV) expressly states that self-determination cannot be interpreted to impair the territorial integrity or national unity of a sovereign country. Don't even try to tell me that you guys have no such intentions, all it takes is just a little browsing-around to see otherwise. Basic human rights my ass, wankers...
we are not fucking violating anyones rights by expressing our self indentity which you can never change you idiot...why do you pro greeks feel so scared and insecure by the way we self indentify? its like ur scared of something.......we're not going away, thats the bottom line. never have. never will.
Are you fucking illiterate or just plain stupid? Did you read my last comment?? Are WE the ones posting maps of a 'united Macedonia' on YT?? Have you really NOT noticed all the 'Vardar,Egej,Pirin = Makedonija' videos and comments posted on these forums?? Who are you trying to fool here?
You are violating my rights when you identify as pure heirs of a heritage that is undeniably Greek, more so when you choose a name used for a large part of MY territory for at least the past 100 years. Got it?
no fucking VERY literate. Those maps are posted cause before "100" years ago, as you said, Greece didnt occupy aegean macedonia before 1913, that land was "stolen" in the balkan wars by greece, and greece isnt even a balkan country.
u guys shit urselfs when we indentify as macedonians not cause it worries u that we call ourselves macedonians and NOT GREEKS, but cause u feel threatened you might loose that land again..........dont worry we dont want ur fucking land.............but we will never stop calling ourselves macedonians and NOT GREEKS, keep throwing that bullshit at us, it just makes us more angry and violated...........let us fucking be, and enjoy ur stolen land, no ones stopping you.
'Stolen land' my bottom, Slav-in-denial. We fought both the Ottomans and the Bulgarians for this land, countries much stronger than us at the time... any ideas why, Mr Literacy??
And when we did that, where the fuck were YOU?? Why didn't you fight for your 'country', as we did?? Why didn't you stop us from 'stealing' your land??
You're so full of shit your brains are choking on it... Get real, you poor sods.
Neither was I, Mr 'VERY fucking literate'. The difference is that I do have a bloody clue, while you don't. AND it's supposed to be YOUR history too, wanker - only you idiots weren't around back then in order to have any.
Like I said, you're so full of shit you don't know right from left - never mind right from wrong. Now crawl back to your cave and erect a statue of Alexander like your moron Gruevski, to be reminded of your betters...
Fyromians by law of 1996 prohibits any scientific research for the national identify of residents of country!!!!!!!!!THE LAW WAS PUBLISHED IN THE GOVERNMENT NEWSPAPER OF FYROM IN 15 MARCH 1996 AND IT EXISTS UNTIL TODAY!!!!!
By law banning any scientific research for national / cultural identity Slavomakedonon in the state of FYROM
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Odobrenieto može da se dade za site oblasti opredeleni kako javen interes vo naučno-istražuvačkata dejnost, osven za naučnite istražuvanja vo oblasta na istoriskiot i kulturniot identitet na makedonskiot narod i nacionalnostite koi živeat vo Republika Makedonija, odbranata i bezbednosta
Approval may be given in all areas developed as a public interest in the activity of scientific research, except for scientific research in the field of historical and cultural identity of the «Macedonian people» and nationalities living in the "Republic of Macedonia", defense and security.
heheh....and then how could you explain that in fact we do just the oposite:we make everything to learn more about our cultural and historical identity, try to investigate all that was forbiden when we were in the frame of Yugoslavia
A Macedonian Bulgar is just the same as a Bulgar of Bulgaria. He looks the same, talks the same, and very largely, thinks the same way. IN SHORT HE IS OF THE SAME STOCK. There is no difference, whatsoever, between the two branches of the race, except that the Macedonian Bulgars have less culture and education than their northern brethren.
[Douglas Smith, Fighting the Turk in the Balkans: An Americans Adventures with the Macedonian Revolutionists, 1908, p. 4-5]
Maxxxilari, I don't believe any of the bullshit numbers the Greek government presents for Ouranio Toxo. Recognize your minorities, respect them and move away from your animalistic behaviour.
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CAKIMacedonian 2 months ago
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aladinmk 1 year ago
When you have nothing to say you start the bullshit. I pwned you i wont tell you anything more i am satisfied that i humiliated you. Thats how a real macedonian is. Greetings from macedonia.
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
I am not from marina but i am from naousa there is not even one slav there. Macedonia is greece!! All these people are shitty visitors that want our places. Come here and tell loud that you are from MAKEDONIJA VARDASKA..you wont be able to finish the sentence
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
What fucking planet are you on PowerDatsun ??? Can you not see and hear the people in the video ? they are dancing and singing in Macedonian, not Greek or Bulgarian !
Chovek1 2 years ago
You fucker these are slavic speaking skopians that come for festivals. Clear your fucking head!!! Macedonia is Greece. You are just another Shithole. Fucktard
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
DICKHEAD !! they are ETHNIC MACEDONIANS ! There is no such thing as a "Skopjan" you fucking clown, clear your fucking head buddy. Your country's name is GREECE, ours is MACEDONIA, YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH, ACCEPT IT AND MOVE ON IDIOT !
Chovek1 2 years ago
Hey motherfucker skopian you are just one slav i am a macedonian i was born and raised in the real macedonia not some shitty bulgarian land. Idiotic scum you are most propably an albanian or bulgarian or another slav. I am the real macedonian idiotic pig i can read what alexander wrote i can speak what alexander spoke i saw all the macedonian artifacts with my eyes and i went to aristottles school that is just out of my city. FUCKER!! Macedonia is A greek part and none has the right to steal it
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
P.s Die peasant . Slavic peasant. Macedonia only Hellenic!
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
You are only a Greek and you wish you were Macedonian, now fuck off cocksucker !
Chovek1 2 years ago
i dont need a slavic peasant to tell me who i am as i told you before i am the real macedonian. You have nothing to say idiotic pig and you start talking like a kid "fuck you " etc. hahahaha MALAKA E MALAKA!!! xaxaxaxa You will never steal MY identity!! You are jealous !!!
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
"Slavic peasent" ? well arent you a racist piece of shit, i wonder how your Serb "brothers" may react to that comment, anyway your right i don't want to steal your identity - one that originates from Asia Minor for your kidding yourself if you think your Macedonian in any way, your most likely a prosfyga(refugee) or from Arvanitika stock ! Jealous , lol that is hilarious - the only one jealous is you stupid !
Chovek1 2 years ago
I am not racist you stupid 10 year old kid i am saying that you cant be macedonian if you are slav you idiot macedonians are only greeks. Alexander was a greek king you idiot he wrote in greek he spoke greek he behaved like a greek he was raised here macedonians competed in the olympic games where only greeks could participate etc. As for refugees from asia minor why is bad to be a refugee?? Blaim the turks for slaughtering and other things idiot for centuries asia minor was greek Read history
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
slavic tribes like you came here 1000 years after alexander the great you motherfucker we Hellenes are in this place for 5000 years and some stupid peasants like you come and claim our history...Well you are raised in a lie and you think you are a real macedon you poor little kid..i dont say that no one has been affected by the balkan civilization as here in macedonia our traditional songs are similar to other balkan songs.
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
Another nazi thing about skopians is that you think that our macedonian lands belong to you!! omg you claim a minority here there is a political party here vinozito that claims this and in the elections it gets 3000 votes from skopians claiming to be macedonian!! 3000 people are a minority?? A real one??? omg BEHAVE!!
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
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Your political leaders have messed you up the dictatorship of gruevski the freedom of speech the constant propaganda does not make you clever it does make you slaves of interests you send your nation to kill iraqi to please the americans..you are their puppies....We deny it because we have respect for the human life and dont want to make other nations unhappy..But that is what makes us HUMAN and CIVILIZED unlike you.
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
PowerDatsun calling me a 10 year old kid when i'm twice your age is pretty absurd ! You don't know anything and your youth and stupidity is showing !
Chovek1 2 years ago
Hahaha you didnt have anything to say!! hahah I KNEW IT! You dont know nothing you just claim our identity! Thanks for making yourself look like a fool. You got pwned man.
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
Your political leaders have messed you up the dictatorship of gruevski the freedom of speech the constant propaganda does not make you clever it does make you slaves of interests you send your nation to kill iraqi to please the americans..you are their puppies....We deny it because we have respect for the human life and dont want to make other nations unhappy..But that is what makes us HUMAN and CIVILIZED unlike you.
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
OMG did you say you have respect for human life, is that the joke of the century ? What were all the riots about last year in Greece my dear fellow? because you respect human life ? i don't think so. another example is the young boy from Australia who was killed in Greece whilst on holidays about a year ago now, nice Greek hospitality i must say so ! FUCKING MORON you have no idea !
Chovek1 2 years ago
We are not even in NATO and we have done more for them than Greece ever has, you are a useless partner in that organization - too scared to send troops to support your allies when most needed. Greece should be kicked out for being an absolutely unreliable partner !
Chovek1 2 years ago
Our minority in Greece is more than 3,000 i can guarantee you that, never mind the 3,000 votes for Rainbow - people have the choice to vote for who ever they like, regardless of Rainbow being a Macedonian party. STUPID !
Chovek1 2 years ago
Now you are telling me that skopians that claim to be macedonians dont vote their own propaganda . OK MAN WHATEVER. 2ndly the australian boy that was killed here was killed by some stupid club doormen what did you expect man?? As for the human life you cant judge 11 milions because one psycho police man killed a kid!!! Motherfucker put some oil on your rusty brain!! In skopje every day whoever admits the truth that you are not macedonians is taken into psychiatry clinics dont tell shit to me
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
And yes we have connection with the ancient greeks you idiot but we were enslaved by the turks like all the balkans then idiot but in 1830 the greek state recovered its freedom and became a country again. KID.
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
Shut up stupid your retardedness is showing with every comment you post !
Chovek1 2 years ago
I rip your ass off in my every comment. Poor animal
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
You rip nothing off, fact remains you are Greek and i am Macedonian end of story, don't like it too fucking bad, Cigan !
Chovek1 2 years ago
LOL
Chovek1 2 years ago
And yes we have connection with the ancient greeks you idiot but we were enslaved for 400 years by the turks like all the balkans at that time. The rebellion started by the greeks in 1821 continued for years of fighting and in 1830 the new greek state was recognized...IDIOT you are trying to show that you know but you know shit!
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
I know and have learened more than you will ever know, clown !
Chovek1 2 years ago
If you know TELL ME! hahahahah
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
There is no point because even if i did you will still believe the lies your government has fed you !
Chovek1 2 years ago
I dont need to be told anything by the goverment motherfucker i see the ancient facts here in macedonia with my own eyes. And realise that.. Macedonian is the one that lives and was born in macedonia.. Macedonia is not an other nation I am greek and i was born in macedonia idiot macedonia is a part like texas in america Fuck tard learn what it means now AND YES I AM A MACEDONIAN i was born in macedonia and raised. I am greek living in northern greece in a place where alexander spoke greek. :D
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
You are a fool and a fool you shall remain
Chovek1 2 years ago
I know that you are illiterate and i enjoy humiliating you. Thanks for the material. End of discussion haha
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
Me illiterate ? Far from it buddy, the only one who is being humiliated is you !
Chovek1 2 years ago
I ask you constantly things and you avoid to respond . Now think about what i ve just said. Greetings from Macedonia.
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
I answered every question you asked, what are you talking about ?
Chovek1 2 years ago
Bullshit. You didnt even answer whats the meaning of Macedonian... you keep avoiding cuz you dont know and you just swear.. typical illiterate
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
I have come across some braindead Greeks on youtube but you take the cake ! I don't know what meaning your looking for, i think your brain is working overtime !You need a history lesson bad !
Chovek1 2 years ago
Whats the meaning of the word man The word Macedon. You claim to be one so tell me what it means.
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
I am one, you are Greek - accept it and move on !
Chovek1 2 years ago
TELL ME WHAT IT MEANS!!! hahahaha YOU DONT KNOW!!!!!!!
And you want to steal my macedonian identity!! Slavic bastard TELL me what it means!!
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
How can you honsetly call yourself a Macedonian with a straight face ? Even the Ancient Greeks knew the difference between the two - why do you refuse to believe that, i mean the evidence is out there, get your head out of the sand !
Chovek1 2 years ago
ANSWER MY QUESTION! Dont Avoid it with nonsense. ANSWER.!
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
Whatever you think the answer to that question is, it still doesnt change things stupid - you still remain a Greek and i a Macedonian !
Chovek1 2 years ago
YEEAHHH I KNEW YOU DONT KNOW SHIT!! Greetings from macedonia pal
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
You think that but who is the one who is being lied to by their government, not me PAL !
Chovek1 2 years ago
I dont need my goverment to tell me i visit archaelogical sights i watch and BBC and Great historians in documentaries and i saw my macedonian culture with my bare eyes. IDIOT!!! IDIOT IDIOT!! YET ONCE AGAIN YOU DONT KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD. I HUMILIATED YOU macedonian wannabe
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
You think you have humiliated me but it is you who is humiliating yourself lol ! Why go to BBC because the Brits helped create your nation back in 1830 ? of course you will believe anythin British, but while you love the Brits so much you should also check out some London Times papers around the turn of the century to see the truth !
Chovek1 2 years ago
You motherfucker you are typical of your propaganda you only get caught by a phraze i say idiot i ALSO MENTIONED that i visited all the archaeological lands that are also near my city IDIOTIC bitch and i saw my macedonian culture. You IDIOT you think a nation like brits so advanced would fall in for the propaganda like you do?? It would be a hit in their prestige..Idiot these documentaries are made by historians from the biggest universities not from skopians living in mountains
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
Is looking at their newspapers going to hurt too much for you, aww i feel bad :))))
Chovek1 2 years ago
And yet you dont answer my question do you know the meaning? Answer with a yes or with a no its that simple!
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
I saw some skopian videos with fake newspaper cuts you idiot I myself can make you one new york times newspaper telling that skopians walked on mars. ITS THAT SIMPLE. Simple photoshop.! MORON!
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
Fake ? Photoshopped ? Are you serious you can see these papers in their entirety you fool but you wouldnt because you wont like what you see and hear !
Chovek1 2 years ago
I told you not to trust things that are photoshopped whereas ancient artifacts here in macedonia prove that macedonians are a greek empire. Idiot these artifacts cant be photoshopped! As for the answer you dont answer BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW!! YOU DONT!!! So pack your bags and go back to your village
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
Truth hurts so you pass it off as fake and photoshopped, nothing new Greece has been doing this for years, we know very well Greeks' tactics but your only kidding yourself ! Also your looking for a meaning thats not there so good luck with that !
Chovek1 2 years ago
You cant answer to my question. Macedon means something you claim to be one so tell me. Ahh i forgot. You dont know you are no macedon. :D
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
And i know that truth hurts i see it in your words....time to wake up from the lies...i feel sorry about you ...
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
Lol i quite like having a nice laugh at your expense, my whole life i have been referred to as Macedonian, my language that i speak has always been referred to as Macedonian, not Greek, Serbian or Bulgarian. Come to Australia and see for yourself how a true democracy works, not that fascist state you call a country.
Chovek1 2 years ago
I live in the motherland of democracy :D
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
Thats the joke of the century
Chovek1 2 years ago
Your own life you have been refered as macedonian which means after 1991 when americans have interest in separating you from yugoslavia hahaah i am referred as macedonian since a lot before christ was born. :D
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
You never were or ever will be a Macedonian !
Chovek1 2 years ago
I don't answer to you buddy, you should learn to respect people older than you !
Chovek1 2 years ago
You are just slavic blooded. Bastard nation. I can prove it. You can prove it hahahaha
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
FULL BLOODED MACEDONIAN, MACEDONIAN NATION - i know these are hard for you to comprehend for it raises questions about your own identity but TOUGH SHIT !
Chovek1 2 years ago
By the way if i ask some pseudomacedonian like you What does macedonian mean you wont be able to answer or you will search it on the internet hoping you get lucky and finding an answer
PowerDatsun 2 years ago
You have nothing in common with the ancient Greeks, your nation was created in 1830 by Britain & Germany, complete with Bavarian Kings ruling, Athens was a majority Albanian population & most Greeks did not identify themselves as Greek but rather Romaics or Albanians & Turks with a few Macedonians mixed in too. Igenea has proven this, plus there are many publications that state this too. The Macedonians are noted in many publications as a separate people & ethnicity during these times also.
Chovek1 2 years ago
ti einai ayta re? den ntrepeste ligo? oso k na trgoydate h makedonia einai ellinikh!!!!! palio gyftoskopinoi..
makedonomaxos1 2 years ago
No sweetheart, you sod off. YOU cannot steal our heritage, and our indentity. U can label watever u like us, but everyone in the world knows we arent bulgarians or serbs, there just labels to protect ur countries bullshit. im not sodding off anywhere. we are united as one, and we are never going away. we let u be, now let us fucking be, simple! we're not stealing anyones fucking history, by you imposing self indentity, thats called racism
DriftAway23 2 years ago
gore glavata makedonic......
ohrid2211 2 years ago
but that what i wrote about SELF INDENTITY with these people WONT CHANGE, u can IMPOSE indentity on them, but history will tell u theyll throw in back in ur face forever and a day.
DriftAway23 2 years ago
You may as well identify yourselves as Martians, Trombonians or Zaratustrians for all we care... your problem. You may side with anyone to pursue your aims (as you did with the Nazis, you insolent bastard who calls us fascist). But you will never be allowed to steal someone else's heritage, period. You need proof?? Look at what happened to your Bulgarian forefathers: their bones are still whitening the riverbeds of northern Greece - and that's a hint about identity...
Now sod off
cyllocke 2 years ago
with ur petty abuse, even when ur grandkids die theyll still indentify as macedonians for makedonija, not fucken greece or bulgaria or any of that bullshit. so whatever the fuck happens, that will always remain and these peoples SELF INDENTITY will NEVER change. So you go fucken weep. i cant stand how your country is soo fucken "proud" as this "one nation" bullshit. Facist if u ask anyone else. Go tell me im a bullshit "slav" or whatever other demeaning language u want to use,
DriftAway23 2 years ago
there ARE fucking minorities of MAKEDONIJA people, greece will NEVER recognise it u fucks becaues i falsify ALL the factssss...........dont give us numbers n bullshit.....truth is we EXIST and we are NEVER going away. period. and we are not greek, bulgarian or any other flavour of the sickening "hellenic week...we r always Macedonians for MAcedonia United, til the END OF TIME, even when ur great grand kids DIE:))))))))))
DriftAway23 2 years ago
Ahh... another expert on Greece and Balkan history, someone who lives 12.000 miles away and yet has the nerve to tell us what goes on inside our own home... Typical.
No worries mate, in about 20 years there won't be any 'Republic of Macedonia' but 'United Albania' instead... 'till-the-end-of-time' my ass. Now go weep somewhere else...
cyllocke 2 years ago
Fuck you man. You go weep somewhere else. U can throw all the numbers and statistics u want at us, the point is that these people indentify themselves as macedonians, and no not the greek type that u guys label them. that indentity is a deep seeded indentification that is in their heart and soul forever. and u CANT change that no matter how hard u try
DriftAway23 2 years ago
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cyllocke 2 years ago
Believe what you want Canookian... who gives a damn?? If there was a minority like that, the world would know about it by now - in the same way they do about the Muslims, the Turks, the Roma.... But even your precious McDougall wasn't able to find any, that's why she mentions "... several people, some, a few, many of those... " and no numbers at all.
It's high time you guys woke up...
cyllocke 2 years ago
yeah we are really going to wake up and think we are bulharian tomorrow, keep fucking dreaming cyllocke!!!!! just fucking sleep in peace and leave us alone !! we are MACEDONIANS, NOT GREEKS:)
DriftAway23 2 years ago
Blah blah blah....
Keep repeating your mantras like a good boy. We are never going to leave you alone mate, you know why?? Because we have the right to protect what we consider our own, whether you like it or not - just like you have the right to be who you want to be. Got it?? Well, you can't be anything at the expense of others, the sooner you realise that, the better for everyone.
WE are Macedonians, YOU are liars and impostors.... and most definitely NOT Greeks, I assure you.
cyllocke 2 years ago
Blah blah blah, correct we are NOT GREEKS............we ARE MACEDONIANS:) well said. Whether you leave us alone or not, we'll ALWAYS defend our basic human rights for self indentity.
DriftAway23 2 years ago
Your 'basic human rights' do not justify violation of other peoples' rights. Which part of the sentence do you not understand??
Paragraph 6 of the UNGA Resolution 1514(XV) expressly states that self-determination cannot be interpreted to impair the territorial integrity or national unity of a sovereign country. Don't even try to tell me that you guys have no such intentions, all it takes is just a little browsing-around to see otherwise. Basic human rights my ass, wankers...
cyllocke 2 years ago
we are not fucking violating anyones rights by expressing our self indentity which you can never change you idiot...why do you pro greeks feel so scared and insecure by the way we self indentify? its like ur scared of something.......we're not going away, thats the bottom line. never have. never will.
DriftAway23 2 years ago
Are you fucking illiterate or just plain stupid? Did you read my last comment?? Are WE the ones posting maps of a 'united Macedonia' on YT?? Have you really NOT noticed all the 'Vardar,Egej,Pirin = Makedonija' videos and comments posted on these forums?? Who are you trying to fool here?
You are violating my rights when you identify as pure heirs of a heritage that is undeniably Greek, more so when you choose a name used for a large part of MY territory for at least the past 100 years. Got it?
cyllocke 2 years ago
no fucking VERY literate. Those maps are posted cause before "100" years ago, as you said, Greece didnt occupy aegean macedonia before 1913, that land was "stolen" in the balkan wars by greece, and greece isnt even a balkan country.
DriftAway23 2 years ago
u guys shit urselfs when we indentify as macedonians not cause it worries u that we call ourselves macedonians and NOT GREEKS, but cause u feel threatened you might loose that land again..........dont worry we dont want ur fucking land.............but we will never stop calling ourselves macedonians and NOT GREEKS, keep throwing that bullshit at us, it just makes us more angry and violated...........let us fucking be, and enjoy ur stolen land, no ones stopping you.
DriftAway23 2 years ago
'Stolen land' my bottom, Slav-in-denial. We fought both the Ottomans and the Bulgarians for this land, countries much stronger than us at the time... any ideas why, Mr Literacy??
And when we did that, where the fuck were YOU?? Why didn't you fight for your 'country', as we did?? Why didn't you stop us from 'stealing' your land??
You're so full of shit your brains are choking on it... Get real, you poor sods.
cyllocke 2 years ago
i wasnt born in 1913 you fucken idiot........what a stupid question
DriftAway23 2 years ago
Neither was I, Mr 'VERY fucking literate'. The difference is that I do have a bloody clue, while you don't. AND it's supposed to be YOUR history too, wanker - only you idiots weren't around back then in order to have any.
Like I said, you're so full of shit you don't know right from left - never mind right from wrong. Now crawl back to your cave and erect a statue of Alexander like your moron Gruevski, to be reminded of your betters...
Sod off - again
cyllocke 2 years ago
Fyromians by law of 1996 prohibits any scientific research for the national identify of residents of country!!!!!!!!!THE LAW WAS PUBLISHED IN THE GOVERNMENT NEWSPAPER OF FYROM IN 15 MARCH 1996 AND IT EXISTS UNTIL TODAY!!!!!
tzakos1982 2 years ago
Služben vesnik na RM 13/96 od 15 mart 1996 god.)
By law banning any scientific research for national / cultural identity Slavomakedonon in the state of FYROM
Člen 16
Odobrenieto može da se dade za site oblasti opredeleni kako javen interes vo naučno-istražuvačkata dejnost, osven za naučnite istražuvanja vo oblasta na istoriskiot i kulturniot identitet na makedonskiot narod i nacionalnostite koi živeat vo Republika Makedonija, odbranata i bezbednosta
tzakos1982 2 years ago
Article 16
Approval may be given in all areas developed as a public interest in the activity of scientific research, except for scientific research in the field of historical and cultural identity of the «Macedonian people» and nationalities living in the "Republic of Macedonia", defense and security.
tzakos1982 2 years ago
heheh....and then how could you explain that in fact we do just the oposite:we make everything to learn more about our cultural and historical identity, try to investigate all that was forbiden when we were in the frame of Yugoslavia
radijacija2007 2 years ago
A Macedonian Bulgar is just the same as a Bulgar of Bulgaria. He looks the same, talks the same, and very largely, thinks the same way. IN SHORT HE IS OF THE SAME STOCK. There is no difference, whatsoever, between the two branches of the race, except that the Macedonian Bulgars have less culture and education than their northern brethren.
[Douglas Smith, Fighting the Turk in the Balkans: An Americans Adventures with the Macedonian Revolutionists, 1908, p. 4-5]
in other words: Gypsies
tzakos1982 2 years ago
CUVAJTE SE MAKEDONCI
cajceto 2 years ago
GORE GLAVATA MAKEDONCI.
hatson36 2 years ago
Maxxxilari, I don't believe any of the bullshit numbers the Greek government presents for Ouranio Toxo. Recognize your minorities, respect them and move away from your animalistic behaviour.
lazhets 2 years ago
8 VOTES AT MARINA TO VINOZITO
Ahahahahahahah
VARDARSKA1982 2 years ago
Votes at Marina Naousas to Vinozito
8
ahahhahahahah
here we see 150 persons in video....WHERE ARE VOTES?
VARDARSKA1982 2 years ago
lazets...Rainbow ,the slavic party took 1,2 % in the municipality of Anthemion-including the village of Marina.
That's 63 votes.
And thats 98.8% who voted for the Greek parties.
Not to mention the total 0.09% of Rainbow..or the humiliating 0.05% in Thessaloniki.
There is not a SINGLE VILLAGE in which they took 10%! Not one!!!
Do you call this a minority?
These people dont feel anything else than GREEK.
Enjoy!
maxxxilari 2 years ago
Veria grk, shut up already. You sound like a kook.
lazhets 2 years ago
ΕΛΛΗΝΟΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΕς ΧΟΡΕΥΤΑΡΑΔΕς.....μπραβο παιδια
veriaman 2 years ago
Μπραβο στους ελληνες της Μακεδονιας μας,.....
veriaman 2 years ago
Hi, Tsrno Marinovtsi, ellaite tuka vo Canada, igraite za nas - ke ni bidi golem merak!!!
lazhets 2 years ago