As I Lay Dying talks religion & Zeitgeist w/ TRUTHISSCARY.com

[blackheartsbirth]

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[NickMaroudas1]

hey it doesnt matter whether your a christian, muslim, athiest, buddhist or whatever. As I lay Dying is such an awesome band. I'm a christian and I think this band is very humble with their words but they really can crank out some kick ass music, amazing metal band!!

[XxMetalMartyrxX777]

@NickMaroudas1 Well it does matter, because without Christ you're going to Hell :/

[SuperBspb]

@XxMetalMartyrxX777 O RLY? Care to back up that statement with anything other than ancient myths?

[somethingfishie]

lol fema death camps...more real then god buddy. god is a astronomical personification, fema camps is where you will be sent if you reject having your n1h1 vaccination or your n5h1 shot...they are training the military right now, youtube it, and they will give out rfid bracelets which will allow you to go certain places, watch contagion, its a movie about desensitizing the population for whats to come. look at the propaganda in that movie about fluoride. lol. common really.

[YourSoulNeverDies]

@somethingfishie the "new world order" thats coming is prophecy, one world government for the antichrist. they want to track every person and make the world a police state so that they  can force you to take the mark of the beast. revelation 13:16

[SerJahPhoto]

Question his bands Christian faith? There is no christian faith in the band, so the statement itself is oxymoronic.

[GimmeTheReason]

Hey Josh...here is a fact for you regarding the possibility of FEMA death camps. The US Senate just voted in favor, 93-7 to pass the Bill S.1867 which puts the military on the streets of America, allows for the legal indefinite detention of American citizens, without access to a lawyer or trial, to be locked away in secret prisons forever, legally tortured, with no oversight whatsoever. Hmmm...I wonder where they will take these people? And if its indefinite & secret why not just kill them?

[AwesomeExploder]

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[MrSandman005]

God made man. Man made "religion". We must stop blaming GOD for OUR foolishness

[clipsryan]

@MrSandman005 God made man to make religion. If not, god messed up. If we can't blame the "all powerful one", he doesn't exist.

[nomorelies86]

Religion dont start war, god dont start war. People start war. They use religion or the name of god as another excuse to kill. Simple as that. God had nothin to do with it.

[clipsryan]

@nomorelies86 Is god all powerful and all knowing? He had everything to do with everything.

[oscarmarin1995]

@clipsryan Do have proof that God doesn't exist?

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 That is my proof. Should I have to provide proof for something not existing when it doesn't exist? Why don't you believe in Zeus?

[oscarmarin1995]

@clipsryan Haha wow. Nonsensical arguments don't work bud. You don't have proof so it's your opinion. Zeus is a false god and there aren't any 2,000 year old manuscripts or salvation through Zeus. People get salvation through Jesus and He does miracles. Of course, you won't believe that. The Bible is also evidence.

Zeus was named after a planet. Zeus doesn't have power or morality

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 Unless you use them for your god, right? I don't need to prove that a being doesn't exist. You, on the other hand, must prove that other gods (Zeus, Thor, Vishnu, Allah etc) don't exist because you're the one with the positive claim. Jesus is dead and miracles don't exist. Once what you call a miracle, is repeated, it's not so miraculous and if all it is is a personal experience, it's worth nothing. The bible is evidence of itself.

Yours was made after male egos. No god does.

[oscarmarin1995]

@clipsryan The Bible tells of salvation through Christ. There's no book for Zeus that offers salvation.

Thor is false too, Vishnu is an idol, Allah is supposedly the Abrahamic God, but contradicts the Bible.

None of them offer salvation or atonement for sins. Everyone has done evil in the sight of God. No denying that. I believe Jesus is alive. I can't convince you though, you'll have to find the truth to believe it. Hope you find the truth. My God does have power and morality

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 The bible tells stories using fear and guilt to convince weak minded people to follow it.

Says you but back then, people thought Thor's evidence was there and he didn't need a book of contradictions. Vishnu, is a god to th Hindu people. A much older god. Allah is one of 3 concepts who's people can't even agree on the supposed being. The bible contradicts itself.

Why should they? A baby has done evil. Prove your god has power and morality. Stop being scared.

[oscarmarin1995]

@clipsryan "people thought Thor's evidence was there and he didn't need a book of contradictions." Okay, but has thor existed since time began?

"Stop being scared." Who tells you that I'm scared?

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 Just the universe. That's the only all powerful creator with evidence to back up it's existence (something that can only happen from the universe). Thor was just an example of a god people formed to fit into gaps of ignorance. Your god is no different. Many god concepts have the claim that said god, created all things. Yours lasting this long, proves many favor comfort over knowledge.

You imply it with your constant baseless claims and cherry picking.

[oscarmarin1995]

@clipsryan I don't cherry pick, you don't understand.

MY God IS different. The Bible is the infallible Word from God

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 Whatever dude. You're special pleading for the god you choose to claim exists. Have fun but please don't allow this dillusion to influence your voted or teaching of children. We've been humans for way to long and we've seen what works for a society and what doesn't. Clearly, religion doesn't because it's cherry picked by everyone. The bible's only source of morality is for the believers while pity and death saved for the non-believers. Young earth. Talking snake. Infallible?

[oscarmarin1995]

@clipsryan I've given you evidence of my God, give me some evidence for thor and your other false gods.

You can't tell me what I shouldn't teach especially when you have the illusion of knowledge and truth. And at least I can spell delusion.

"Clearly, religion doesn't because it's cherry picked by everyone." Surprisingly mostly by atheists. Jesus will come back and clear things up and He'll be back soon dude.

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 Those gods were used to make a point and NO, you did not give me evidence for your god.

Illusion, dillusion. You knew what I meant and this isn't a spelling test. This is a conversation about your religion. This religion says a snake talked and the earth is around 6,000 years old. Those are impossible. The bible is wrong.

Atheism doesn't have denominations unlike the thousands christianity has. Jesus is taking his sweet time. We're fine without him and his flock.

[oscarmarin1995]

@clipsryan 1. The talking snake was a supernatural occurence.

2. The Bible never gives a date.

3. Who cares? Jesus said many false teachers would come. And most of the denominations differ in doctrines. It's not hard to find a Biblical church

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 Why should I believe that supernatural occurences happen?

That's not what young earth creationists say but sense it doesn't include dinosaurs in it's god's creation story, it clearly thinks it's less than a million and science proves othewise.

What cult leader hasen't said that to his flock? It's hard to find an honest follower or one that can provide evidence. Apparently he's not the first teacher so why didn't he say "have come"?

[oscarmarin1995]

@clipsryan 1. I didn't say you have to... but it's pretty obvious that there's supernatural powers in the world...

2. The Bible never says '6,000' years old... And dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible. There are evolutionary Christians, old earth Christians and other kinds too...

3. Jesus isn't a cult leader. Give me one saying of His that determines Him to be a cult leader. Actually He's helped many people across the world.

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 1. Don't be scared. Show some "obvious" examples of the supernatural. 2. Yes, there are plenty of different versions of christians. They're all wrong but most are extremely dishonest and no, dinosaurs aren't mentioned in the bible nor do they fit in the creation story. 3. I don't need a saying. The simple fact that people claimed he did magic tricks....sorry "miracles" is clearly manipulation along with the fact that his people welcome armageddon. How has he helped them?

[oscarmarin1995]

@clipsryan 1. Paranormal activity with ordinary people. Satanic influemce in Hollywood and the music industry.

2. So you think you know everything? Can I message you a link that shows that dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible?

3. Well, He's helped struggling people in Africa and China and many other people to find salvation through Him. Part2. Not scare tactics, just warnings. Good question, praying would help.

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 1. I believe I asked for proof. Satan should only have as much influence as god allows him.

2. Apparently you do if that's the conclusion you came up with. Whatever makes you sleep at night. Just remember that if dinosaurs existed during biblical times, you're asserting that middle eastern shepherds know more than biologists.

3. How? A warning is a scare tactic. How does prayer help when god's plan is already set?

[oscarmarin1995]

@clipsryan 1. Exactly that's right. And that's what God does. There isn't conclusive proof, but there's a reasonable amount of evidence. Atheism has no proof or evidence, only death and opinion

2. I haven't said that.

3. A warning like that = Advice to beware.

4. Are you serious? It's surprising how fast you jump to conclusions... of course atheists do that alot.

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 1. So god is satan. Thanks.

2. You didn't need to.

3. Warnings without evidence are just as good as stories without evidence.

4. Jump to conclusions? Like those man christians who thought the earth was younger than what scientists have proven, the sun revolved around the earth. the sun rose and set and sickness was caused by demons? Not hardly. I'm working with what you're giving me. Atheists do what alot?

[oscarmarin1995]

@clipsryan 1. That's just what satan wants you to think. Satan's just a fallen angel ruling the world, God has him on a leash.

3. What are you talking about. There's plenty of evidence. There's JW, Mormons, RCC, Islam alot of other false and even blatantly satanic religions.

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 1. God has satan on a leash while satan is ruling the world. You don't see the error in that?

3. There are no religion under satan cause satan has no doctrine. All he is is a character in a book getting the blame for all the bad things the all powerful one doesn't want to take credit for so he can trick people into fellowship. For the last time, satan only has and does what god allows. "Satanic" is extremely vague. Try explaining what you mean by that, please.

[oscarmarin1995]

@clipsryan 4. The Bible doesn't say the sun revolves around the earth. And the young earth people have their beliefs. Sickness is either caused naturally or supernaturally. Most times it's caused naturally, but their is spiritual sickness too. Like when you're sick spiritually, example: Hate. When you hate you get spiritually sick and tired and worn out and depressed. I've went through that. Just saying

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 The bible doesn't say alot of things but it implies alot of false things and it's followers enforce these lies. Negative emotions cause feeling sick. Spirituality has nothing to do with it. Alot of men have lived their entire lives hating a group of people and they've lived pretty long lives. When you cry, the body thinks you're sick which is why you sound and feel like you have a cold. It's biology not superstition.

[oscarmarin1995]

@clipsryan I wasn't talking about physical sickness. I was talking about spiritual sickness. People can be spiritually sick and not have physical sickness.

1. Okay, satan rules this world, but God will come back. And He will protect the faithful.

3. Okay, but there are people that worship satan. He doesn't need doctrine. Haven't you heard "do what thou wilt" ? And satanism can be the worship of self as well and false gods. Religions that I listed are occult, well the higher ups

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 I showed how your idea of spiritual sickness is easily explained as sickness based on mood. People can be depressed and moody. No spiritual explaination that trumps what doctors already know about the immune system.

1. Now, we're getting somewhere. Why would god give satan power over the earth and then blame humans? Again, he's taking his sweet time and again, you're speaking of the end of the world which could only morally happen when all humans are matured.

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 3. I know and sense I don't belive in satan, I think they're wrong too. Most of them admire satan just like how the majority of christians, just admire the jesus character. "Do what thou wilt" means don't feel guilty about doing harmless things. Things like eating shellfish, wearing synthetic fabrics, watching porn, masturbating, being gay, questioning things ect. These things are condemned by the bible though repentance excuses them. Dude, no, they're just different religions.

[oscarmarin1995]

@clipsryan 5. Dude, I know what it says. It says no one will know the hour or date. I'm assuming that it'll be before 2028 or on 2028. I don't know the EXACT time or date. Again you're jumping to conclusions and misunderstanding

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 It says no one will know the hour or date but you claim it's gonna be 2028. That's a date, moron. Why the hell should anyone take you seriously. Your bible is just a book. It has no powers and it's god has no evidence. You're jumping to conclusions and when you're extremely vague, you call me out on doing the same. No, I understand you. I think you don't understand your own positions.

[oscarmarin1995]

@clipsryan 3. Matthew 7:15 - "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves."

4. What are you talking about? He died for the world, but the Jews were the ones who were chosen to have the Messiah. You don't understand..

5. How do you know it won't happen? I guarentee that He will come by 2028. This world is preparing for the new world order. After 7 years of it, He will return. When was He supposed to come? DoesitsayinBible?

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 3 part 2. Scare tactics to fear the opposition. This is why theists get defensive and think less of those that don't believe as they do. Why watch out? Just pray away the false prophets. 4. Died for the world though the places that are the most violent are the middle east and other very religious places. Oh and the rest of the world had never even heard of Jesus because they had/have their own myths. There aren't any Aztec accounts of Jesus. 5. 2028 according to what verse?

[oscarmarin1995]

@clipsryan "There aren't any Aztec accounts of Jesus." Of course not, the aztecs lived in mexico.

5. I already explained to you

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 Exactly, so that shows how partial Jesus was/is in only going to a place that created the abrahamic religions. He didn't die for the world because apparently before, during and after those times, people still have never heard of the supposedly all loving being.

5. So now you're a liar. You listed no verse proving the bible said 2028 and you know why? Because it's says nobody knows and apparently you think your more special than millions of other christians. Ouch.

[oscarmarin1995]

@clipsryan 4. Matthew 24:14 - And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 You have three huge problems. One: Logic. Two: Islam. Three: The very religion that started the bible; judaism.

[oscarmarin1995]

@clipsryan You're arrogance and ignorance will be your demise... I'm sorry, but that's the truth. I hope you find the truth instead of speculating and being a sceptard.

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 Don't be sorry, my arrogance is justified and baseless threats don't work. I care about the truth so ofcourse I'm gonna be skeptical about a belief system that's full of immorality, death, sexism and blatant lies.Sceptard? That's mature. Sounding more like an insecure theists with every response.

[oscarmarin1995]

@clipsryan Two: Islam has the moon god Allah and doesn't have a savior for sins. The Abrahamic God made it clear that sin = death.

Three: The Jews are God's chosen people, but have been religious and not spiritual. The Old Testament has been very clear about the Messiah. Jesus fulfilled every prophecy about Him.

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 If sin equals death, how can a just god allow a child (sinless) to die? Also, why should they need a savior for something an all knowing god already knew would exist? "Save me from something you allowed to exist" or "Save me from you.". What's the difference between religious and spritual? Stop using this vague bullshit. Every prophecy? Like........?

[oscarmarin1995]

@clipsryan Spiritual is having a relationship with God and living by faith.

Explain how Chrisyianity is immoral, death, sexism and blatant lies.

"Sceptard? That's mature. Sounding more like an insecure theists with every response."

Sorry. You're just kind of being close minded and speculating.

"It says no one will know the hour or date but you claim it's gonna be 2028. That's a date, moron" That's a year dude. And I don't know if it'll be before 2028 or sometime in 2028.

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 What happens in this relationship and why should anyone live by faith.

God orders the murders of husbands, wifes (pregnant) and children while condoning virgin theft. It says there was a global flood. Oh, and magic. Magic doesn't exist.

Close-minded? I was a christian. If anything, I'm more open-minded than ever. A year is in a date and again, it say nobody will know. The fact that not all humans will be old enough to live morals lives or "know" god, makes it immoral.

[oscarmarin1995]

@clipsryan Because Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.

That was His judgement. Are you defending the people that were homosexual rapists and other people that sacrificed their own children? Magic. This proves you have closed your mind. You think it's not real, maybe, but it's still occultic and invites demons.

Well judging by how you think you're always right and you think whatever you say is right and what I say is wrong, that sounds pretty close minded

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 I know you think that but again, EVIDENCE!

Oh ofcourse! The children and unborn children were homosexuals and couldn't be killed by their own parents. Homosexuals weren't the only ones raping people as I explained with the condoning of virgin theft. Not to mention that the bible also states that if you rape a women, her father must pay you to take her (as property) because she's basically spoiled goods.

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 If magic can be explained, it's not magic. Magic doesn't exist.

If that was the case, I wouldn't keep replying. If that's the conclusion you made, stop being so insecure.

[oscarmarin1995]

@clipsryan 4. The most telling sign, to me, is Jesus saying when you see the fig leaf (Israel) come into leaf (arise as a nation again), you will know my return is at hand, within a generation. The bible, according to Psalms, says a generation is between 70 and 80 years. Israel became a nation in 1948. So, if this prophecy is correct, the second coming should happen by 2028.

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 So the rest of the world means nothing to him other than the place that made him up? How amazing!

It should but it won't. He was suppose to come many times before and he's clearly partial in not allowing a certain generations' children to grow up and live a full life (sinful or not) before him coming down (there is no coming down because the only up is relative to the your location on the globe) to do what he should've done thousands of years ago. What makes us so special?

[oscarmarin1995]

@clipsryan "The bible's only source of morality is for the believers while pity and death saved for the non-believers"

So the ten commandments aren't moral? Jesus' teaching on the mount isn't worth anything?

"Young earth. Talking snake. Infallible?"

I don't know how old the earth is. The Bible didn't say talking snakes was ever normal. Yes infallible

[clipsryan]

@oscarmarin1995 Again, those rules are for the believers because most people know to not steal or kill. The problem is that "god" can be used to excuse any act.

The judeo/christian god condones murder and stealing of virgins. Jesus' lessons were a combination of dillusions and obvious moral guidelines that cleraly did nothing to convince those people to be moral.

Older than 6,000 years (the bible's assertion). It didn't have to, it said a snake talked. Clearly not.

[isaacblack97]

@maggott1128

why can't you respect other ppl's religions and not talk sh!t?

[corruptedsilence]

@maggott1128 fuck off. zeitgeist is a cult at heart.

[corruptedsilence]

Zeitgeist is trash.

[LiLwEdO241]

my friend owes me $50 cause he is dumb and thinks they are cathlic

[frankthatank5x]

@LiLwEdO241 u should use that 50$ to buy a vowel

[BlackTidePride]

Oh, JOSH. HOT.