I didn't grow up with the original, but I sure like it a whole lot better than Tron: Legacy! I loved the whole "Tron fights for the users" thing, where Saark makes all the programs think that the users don't exist....a nice Christian theme I really liked. Tron: Legacy was a nice dog and pony show that showed off the new technology of the decade, but the plot lacked what the original had.
Every frame in this movie is interesting to look at, even when there's nothing happening. Tron Legacy had it's moments, but everything looked too terrestrial and not enough like another world. The costumes and everything just looked too ordinary. It also could have used some more abstract looking characters, like the tower guard and the MCP.
@Secundas I guess TRON was a wild frontier—huge mainframes, programmers developing tools and inventing CGI as they went along—whereas now people criticise the CGI Jeff Bridges as not being convincing, when it's an incredible achievement.
Personally, when I first got into synthesisers, in the late 70's early 80's, everything sounded alien and unreal and I loved it. However, if you looked at the names of the sounds, they called them "flute", "piano" etc. The intention always was to copy reality.
@Valelacerte I understand what you're saying and agree. I'm not knocking the special effects in Tron Legacy; for their believability, realism or anything else (they were excellent). Just saying that I find the look of the original Tron more imaginative and aesthetically pleasing.
@Secundas The director of Legacy said the updated effects were in sync with computer evolution since the original TRON. He said that because the TRON universe was self contained, it was justified that it would have to increase in graphics, functionality, and overall performance.
@Xigbar01 I assumed such and that makes perfect sense. And that's what I kept in mind from the first time I watched Legacy. Only I associate it more with video games.
Games have come a long way as far as graphics, detail, and realism. A lot of that advancement is apparent in the TRON universe. Everything and everybody on The Grid looks more "real". Whether it's spectacular or ordinary. It's like the world around us.
@Valelacerte I think the cgi Jeff Bridges was great (except for the final battle scene), but the eyes gave him away. But i agree that the first TRON really gave you the impression that they are in another world, unlike TRON legacy.
@Secundas i agree with the fact that the TRON city just looked like earth would in the future, but then thats how flynn designed it, so humans could live in it and so made it like earth
@coolperson962 This is true. Flynn had intended that someday, humans would enter the Grid and live there for who knows how long, short visits or lifetimes. Now how cool would that be!
Daft Punk is dope !! Love their stuff....but damn I wish the soundtrack for "TRON : Legacy" would have been done by Wendy Carlos or something close to it. And the sound effects from the original "TRON" were great and should have been re-done to suit the new movie. I can watch the orginal film over hundreds of times...to this very day. And I saw it in theatres back in '82. I doubt that I'll be watching the new film that many times 20 years from now.
@kinardak I agree, I'd completely forgotten about "TRON: Legacy" until you mentioned it. I feel like they got some things very wrong. Why, for instance, did the Recognizers suddenly have visual heat distortion around their rather noisy engines; isn't this a virtual environment, unconstrained by natural laws? Why would a more advanced environment introduce impediments to movement, such as gravity, inertia, or friction? It really was a film based on the game TRON2, and perhaps not even as good.
1. MCP and their "Red" color is suppose to represent "Red China, Red USSR"..facistic regimes of Leftist Atheistic Communism
2. Sark and the MCP indoctrinate programs to disbelieve they have been "Created" by "Gods" I.E Users in order to get them to worship the MCP instead of their Gods for "Control"
3. Tron and Flynn are Christlike and Prophet like figures...to bring freedom under great persecution...and of course sacrifice.
there is a holy religious implication of tron. when tron holds up his disk it as as a sacred prayer. the i/o tower is clearly a holy temple and dumont is as a preist. also not how flynn sacrifices him self at the end to save that world.
Me too. I saw it in a little cinema in Cornwall, UK, when it came out. I still love the style of it. I don't know if you've seen any of the making of TRON, but the level of technology they had to work with coupled with the mind-numbing repetition of some of the tasks, it's incredible that it was ever finished.
I found out when I was watching the last few minutes of Tron on movies that don't suck on g4tv, and the MC said that there was going to be a sequal and I was very excited to hear about it.
How did I find out what? The sequel? I saw a trailer for it online I guess, it looks really cool and I saw Jeff Bridges in there so I know it'll be good. It's not "Tron" without Jeff Bridges.
well the guy playing both alan and tronm is gonna be in the movie, he is confirmed to be playing alan but if he isn't playing tron then its a major dissapointment even if people don't like the sequel, it would be like having another war games film without WOPR.
@Shanethefilmmaker No doubt it was a major disappointment after you saw TRON: Legacy. Why the fuck did TRON purr like a cat? Are content cats particularly menacing or something? Couldn't they have youthified Alan too?
@Valelacerte Actually even the big cats like the jaguar and lion purr before the occasional roar and pounce in the hunt. But to be honest I think they were trying to knock off the predator growl. Other than that I actually liked legacy Sam Flynn was funny Quarra was hot and despite the purr Tron was still pretty badass. I am only saying this because if you were a program you would have to grow some balls to fight a user, Tron knew Sam was a user and attacked anyway.
I remember when Nvidia were involved in making the Tron2 game, they paid special attention to that slightly misty luminescence that Tron had.
In the days of Tron, computer graphics and audio had a look and sound of their own - stylistic and alien - now we have characterless, photorealistic modeling.
@Valelacerte Yes, am also tired of generic photorealism being pushed by the videogame industry and by some that teach 3-D modelling. They brow beat students with the view that only photo-realistic characters and bump-mapped textures are the only valid way to render 3-D characters and anything too cartoony, anime-ish, or more uniquely stylized is seen in a negative light. Realism is fine, but with mainstream videogames it's getting generic and uninteresting to look at.
Thanks for posting! Wendy Carlos's music is brilliant here, although I feel sorry for Bruce Boxleitner having to try to say "This code disk means freedom!" with a straight face.
I didn't grow up with the original, but I sure like it a whole lot better than Tron: Legacy! I loved the whole "Tron fights for the users" thing, where Saark makes all the programs think that the users don't exist....a nice Christian theme I really liked. Tron: Legacy was a nice dog and pony show that showed off the new technology of the decade, but the plot lacked what the original had.
barbaro267 2 months ago
Legacy looked pretty, but I like the plot of the original Tron a bit more :)
unknowndeoxys00 4 months ago
Every frame in this movie is interesting to look at, even when there's nothing happening. Tron Legacy had it's moments, but everything looked too terrestrial and not enough like another world. The costumes and everything just looked too ordinary. It also could have used some more abstract looking characters, like the tower guard and the MCP.
Secundas 10 months ago 2
@Secundas I guess TRON was a wild frontier—huge mainframes, programmers developing tools and inventing CGI as they went along—whereas now people criticise the CGI Jeff Bridges as not being convincing, when it's an incredible achievement.
Personally, when I first got into synthesisers, in the late 70's early 80's, everything sounded alien and unreal and I loved it. However, if you looked at the names of the sounds, they called them "flute", "piano" etc. The intention always was to copy reality.
Valelacerte 10 months ago
@Valelacerte I understand what you're saying and agree. I'm not knocking the special effects in Tron Legacy; for their believability, realism or anything else (they were excellent). Just saying that I find the look of the original Tron more imaginative and aesthetically pleasing.
Secundas 10 months ago 2
@Secundas I agree with you; I wasn't referring to you when I wrote about people criticising TRON Legacy. TRON was definitely more imaginative.
Valelacerte 10 months ago
@Secundas The director of Legacy said the updated effects were in sync with computer evolution since the original TRON. He said that because the TRON universe was self contained, it was justified that it would have to increase in graphics, functionality, and overall performance.
Xigbar01 8 months ago
@Xigbar01 I assumed such and that makes perfect sense. And that's what I kept in mind from the first time I watched Legacy. Only I associate it more with video games.
Games have come a long way as far as graphics, detail, and realism. A lot of that advancement is apparent in the TRON universe. Everything and everybody on The Grid looks more "real". Whether it's spectacular or ordinary. It's like the world around us.
tsntana 7 months ago
@Valelacerte I think the cgi Jeff Bridges was great (except for the final battle scene), but the eyes gave him away. But i agree that the first TRON really gave you the impression that they are in another world, unlike TRON legacy.
Fbiguy 5 months ago
@Secundas i agree with the fact that the TRON city just looked like earth would in the future, but then thats how flynn designed it, so humans could live in it and so made it like earth
coolperson962 8 months ago
@coolperson962 This is true. Flynn had intended that someday, humans would enter the Grid and live there for who knows how long, short visits or lifetimes. Now how cool would that be!
Iluthra 8 months ago
Daft Punk is dope !! Love their stuff....but damn I wish the soundtrack for "TRON : Legacy" would have been done by Wendy Carlos or something close to it. And the sound effects from the original "TRON" were great and should have been re-done to suit the new movie. I can watch the orginal film over hundreds of times...to this very day. And I saw it in theatres back in '82. I doubt that I'll be watching the new film that many times 20 years from now.
kinardak 11 months ago
@kinardak I agree, I'd completely forgotten about "TRON: Legacy" until you mentioned it. I feel like they got some things very wrong. Why, for instance, did the Recognizers suddenly have visual heat distortion around their rather noisy engines; isn't this a virtual environment, unconstrained by natural laws? Why would a more advanced environment introduce impediments to movement, such as gravity, inertia, or friction? It really was a film based on the game TRON2, and perhaps not even as good.
Valelacerte 11 months ago
my website is calling me...it's saying it has to many hits...
siliconsurf 1 year ago
NOT THE LOGIC PROBE!!!! DDDDD8
SashaLigress 1 year ago
Tron is an overtly-religious film.
1. MCP and their "Red" color is suppose to represent "Red China, Red USSR"..facistic regimes of Leftist Atheistic Communism
2. Sark and the MCP indoctrinate programs to disbelieve they have been "Created" by "Gods" I.E Users in order to get them to worship the MCP instead of their Gods for "Control"
3. Tron and Flynn are Christlike and Prophet like figures...to bring freedom under great persecution...and of course sacrifice.
TRON is a pro-religious
lethalfarm 1 year ago
@lethalfarm The second Tron film, "Tron: Legacy", seems to be more Zen oriented...Which I kinda didn't like very much.... -__-'
SylphViper 1 year ago
@lethalfarm I am surprised that I never noticed that; interesting.
Valelacerte 11 months ago
what a kick ass movie
MrTOPDOGG38 1 year ago
there is a holy religious implication of tron. when tron holds up his disk it as as a sacred prayer. the i/o tower is clearly a holy temple and dumont is as a preist. also not how flynn sacrifices him self at the end to save that world.
brettperlman108 1 year ago
When the programs work hard with dignity, we are watching youtube movie with boredom.
SunnyLEGO 2 years ago
I really liked this movie, I'm looking forward to the sequel too.
desotowrong 2 years ago 2
Me too. I saw it in a little cinema in Cornwall, UK, when it came out. I still love the style of it. I don't know if you've seen any of the making of TRON, but the level of technology they had to work with coupled with the mind-numbing repetition of some of the tasks, it's incredible that it was ever finished.
Valelacerte 2 years ago
I found out when I was watching the last few minutes of Tron on movies that don't suck on g4tv, and the MC said that there was going to be a sequal and I was very excited to hear about it.
ChristainPatriot01 2 years ago
Likewise,how did you find out?
ChristainPatriot01 2 years ago
How did I find out what? The sequel? I saw a trailer for it online I guess, it looks really cool and I saw Jeff Bridges in there so I know it'll be good. It's not "Tron" without Jeff Bridges.
desotowrong 2 years ago
true but then again it ain't tron without tron either.
Shanethefilmmaker 2 years ago
I agree, I think fans will all be getting lumps in their throats watching it. I think that movie holds a special place in all our hearts.
desotowrong 2 years ago
well the guy playing both alan and tronm is gonna be in the movie, he is confirmed to be playing alan but if he isn't playing tron then its a major dissapointment even if people don't like the sequel, it would be like having another war games film without WOPR.
Shanethefilmmaker 2 years ago
@Shanethefilmmaker No doubt it was a major disappointment after you saw TRON: Legacy. Why the fuck did TRON purr like a cat? Are content cats particularly menacing or something? Couldn't they have youthified Alan too?
Valelacerte 11 months ago
@Valelacerte Actually even the big cats like the jaguar and lion purr before the occasional roar and pounce in the hunt. But to be honest I think they were trying to knock off the predator growl. Other than that I actually liked legacy Sam Flynn was funny Quarra was hot and despite the purr Tron was still pretty badass. I am only saying this because if you were a program you would have to grow some balls to fight a user, Tron knew Sam was a user and attacked anyway.
Shanethefilmmaker 11 months ago
great special effects, wouldn't change anything in this film.
punkjoes 2 years ago
Nope, it's a classic.
I remember when Nvidia were involved in making the Tron2 game, they paid special attention to that slightly misty luminescence that Tron had.
In the days of Tron, computer graphics and audio had a look and sound of their own - stylistic and alien - now we have characterless, photorealistic modeling.
Valelacerte 2 years ago
@Valelacerte Yes, am also tired of generic photorealism being pushed by the videogame industry and by some that teach 3-D modelling. They brow beat students with the view that only photo-realistic characters and bump-mapped textures are the only valid way to render 3-D characters and anything too cartoony, anime-ish, or more uniquely stylized is seen in a negative light. Realism is fine, but with mainstream videogames it's getting generic and uninteresting to look at.
ShadowArtist 1 year ago 2
Have you seen the teaser trailer for Tron2? Daft punk is supposed to be doing the score, can't wait. nice post thx
enotdetcelfer 2 years ago
I saw the light bike trailer, and good ol' Bridges made an appearance; looks awesome!
Valelacerte 2 years ago
This is my favorite part of the movie with the music section and setting up the final stand for the hero's.
WingnutARC 3 years ago
Thanks for posting! Wendy Carlos's music is brilliant here, although I feel sorry for Bruce Boxleitner having to try to say "This code disk means freedom!" with a straight face.
toddjh 3 years ago
Yes, it's my favourite musical moment, that's why I chose it. Yeah, poor Bruce, and nothing but black to act against.
Valelacerte 3 years ago