Jeremiah Wright (postscript?)

[brdgeman]

Fitzergerald , u need a hair cut

[theRebelBull]

Get a grip Fitzergerald, Masterofsparks has a point. Rev Wrights sermons were one of anger, not racism. I can bet you the folks at fox news and the powerful rich old white men know mr right to be an angry man yet they twist things around to suit their candidates.

Let me just throw something at you fitzergerald... Why is it that the same people who accused Obama of being muslim because of his arabic name and race are now accusing him of being a racist christian. Hypocrite.

[MasterOfSparks]

Behind the masks of these right wing freaks whining about Obama's or Wright's "hatred" are some really ignorant racists. Could they really be so amazingly stupid that they're completely unaware of the countless reasons blacks and other minorities have for being angry? Maybe if your grandfather was left swinging from a tree because he looked at a white woman you might be a little ticked off too. But, no, your grandfathers tossed the rope over the limb and now you're whining. Pathetic.

[fitzergerald]

MasterOfSparks: You're CLEARLY the racist. You have no idea whether I'm red, black, white or green yet you make racist remarks like "your grandfathers tossed the rope over the limb." MY ancestors happened to be abolitionist who helped with The Underground Railroad.

You think anyone that questions a black person, no matter what it is, is a white racist. What a twisted mind set.

You're an adult "name calling" on Youtube. I'd say that's pretty pathetic...

[MasterOfSparks]

Only one kind of person would fail to understand the reasons why blacks would be angry with the way they have been treated. What more do I need to know about you than that?

BTW Ron Paul wants to disband the education system and every safeguard put in place to protect citizens from the multinational corporations yet you support him.

No, I won't be needed anything further from you.

[fitzergerald]

You stated that "anyone who is familiar with Barack KNOWS that this little montage of clips does not resemble his viewpoints even remotely"

I was wondering why someone (Barack) would be a member of a "church" for 17 years with a leader that is overflowing with hatred towards white people and America. Not a single one of you knows someone that is a member of ANYTHING for 17 years and doesn't have the same viewpoints as the one leading it.

I look forward to hearing from you.

[JoeFelice]

Know any Catholics who use birth control? It's one of the Pope's new "seven deadly sins".

Know any Catholics who are pro-death penalty or pro-choice? Both major sins.

Know any soldiers opposed to the Iraq war? They're out there and re-enlisting nonetheless.

How about Republicans who think McCain is a joke on many issues but will vote for him anyway--are you one of them?

[ArthurTyler]

When someone uses the term "overflowing with hatered" it says something to me about their mindset. It says to me that some of that hatred spilled on them. Being full of hatred is enough I'd think. I was sick and sad thinking that the wright controv. would spiral and be the end of obama. I'm now elated that his #'s appear to have rebounded and the damage is minimal. It's only a big deal to the kind of 'social conservatives' that wouldn't vote for him anyway. they'd find any excuse.

[fitzergerald]

To pick on a minuscule word, like overflow, is kind of pointless. The definition of overflow is simply "a large flow" or as I used it "a large flow of hatred" which he clearly has since he's irate in everyone of his "sermons"

There are plenty of "excuses" not to vote for Obama. I just don't have enough room to write them all.

There are a lot of people who like to reply  to comments with statements that don't really make any good points or add anything to the conversation.

[ArthurTyler]

To me the debate of Obamas' character as it relates to Wright's most rediculous statements is more pointless. Like I said, you have plenty of other reasons to not support him, but it's easiest to bang this kind of drum. The kind that stirs up white distrust of him as a radical black candidate. That's more redicluous than elimenating the dept. of education which is what ron paul said he would eventually do. I'm not going to call ron paul a racist just because of his newsletter.Or should I?

[fitzergerald]

Arthur: The videos have been posted about his character, therefore debates quickly persue. The only reason I am "banging this drum" is because it's what the video is talking about. I have debated many people who have posted other candidate's speeches as well, not just Obama and not just this topic.

Ron Paul did NOT want to get rid of education... He just wanted to get rid of the Federal education and give the power back to each individual state.

[ArthurTyler]

If you haven't seen the wright sermons at length, but only the clips played on the news then I personally think your whole attempt here to get people to "think" is less effective than it could be. I urge you to look at the whole sermons and he doesn't seem all that radical (to me) and I'm your average white dude from Arkansas. Obama's character to me is way above par as far as politicians go. He's the real deal in the integrity dept.

[fitzergerald]

First, I wish to thank you for being mature about this conversation and not attacking me for having a friendly debate.

I am not a supporter of McCain in fact I don't like any of the front runners. I like Ron Paul a true Constitutionalist.

I made a slight mistake when I gave you a hard question and an easy one. As most people would, you answered multiple times to the easy one and not once to the harder one. Can you please answer the first question?

I wish I had more room to write...

[JoeFelice]

fitzgerald, you're welcome and invited to express dissent in my threads so please keep it coming.

The 2 minutes of clips were the product of opposition research, which is the opposite of balanced journalism.

I don't know the details of how the Obamas benefited from the fellowship and community of their church, but I am certain that this propaganda left an enormous territory of experience in that congregation hidden from view and I cede them the right to consider it worthy of their membership.

[fitzergerald]

I definitely agree that there is a lot about this church and it's leaders that we don't know about. I am just trying to get people to question who they are voting for. I don't care who they are vote for, I just want them to THINK about what they stand for.

I know my Pastor never curses anyone or any race. I know that 99.9% of the time I agree with his views. Obama's Pastor seems to hate certain races. I would assume Obama agrees with his pastor the same 99.9% that I do with my Pastor.

[Loiseauchante]

Hey, I love your style and thoughts!

The comment about "choosing a caricature" was great, keep it coming:)

[JoeFelice]

I will, thanks for subscribing!

[broinman]

dude, i love your slightly awkward endings/beginnings.

[0c4pnh4nk]

It's not only the imagination, I definitely take you seriously :) I'm sure it also saves time. Maybe - I don't know if it exists - set it up to emboss the last 5 seconds or something, for example. Nothing fancy that would make the message showy. It might be somewhat reinforcing to provide a light-hearted, average - 'I don't know how to end these' to an otherwise above average and important message. I laughed out loud which doesn't happen often watching YT in 3Dland. Trying to capture the moment.

[0c4pnh4nk]

To end them, you should take that last 5 seconds and make yourself a outro. :) I would do it, but I'm technologically inept. Find out who did Shay Carl's.

[JoeFelice]

I believe Shay actually got his buddy to do it. I don't know if I'm ready for bumpers. At this point I'm kind of making a thing out of the whole one-take aspect. In my imagination it ups my cred if I don't have to piece anything together. It's one of the things that impresses me about Daxflame. We'll see though.

[sylvanus93]

I see the Democratic party schisming, Im a Hillary supporter and i see Baraks tactics not much different then Hillarys. All i hear is Barak is the Only one who beat Mccain.. How, WHAT is he going to do once in office.. What will he do about the econmoy , Iraq, Immigration.. We hear him Singing Kumbyah.. Hes all flash no Substance.. At leat Hillary has outlined her plans.. Hillary in 08

[JoeFelice]

You're not looking very hard.

[goni27]

as for mccain, i would of voted for him 8 years ago when he wasn't so tied to the Bush adminstration. but he is now insane and even supports the war in Iraq. I find it hard to believe he would of supported this policy 8 years ago when he really was a maverick. now he's just a right wing lap dog.

[JoeFelice]

So what will you do on November 4th?

[goni27]

well I have two choices

A) not vote

B) vote independant.

right now I'm thinking option b is what I'm going to do. Real change won't come through Obama. He's just like any other politician. yes he is an excellent speaker, charismatic and a brilliant political strategist but many bad leaders in history have had those qualities. what we deed is more options and we just don't get it with our current electoral system. If people want real change they would vote for a third party.

[goni27]

I won't vote for Clinton or Obama. neither one is fit to be president. they are both typical politians, saying whatever it takes for them to become president. Obama didn't disown Wright because he didn't want to lose his base supportors, African Americans. AS for Clinton, she'll win at any cost, even if it means taking cheapshots like what she did today in her attempt to distract the media away from the bosnia story.

[197224003]

What a delightful video. Thanks Joe!!!

[ShiekUrBooty]

Yes, Joe does great work and I'm not even voting for his candidate. Which is kind of funny because I am not following any right wing counterpart of Joe on youtube.

Good luck guys and girls, I think there's a lot of us lefties and righties that are hoping for a better tomorrow.

[saikoza]

Ha ha ha ... and I like the end!

[saikoza]

Finally Joe!!!

I had to keep myself busy watching a lot of junk out here on YT.

5 stars as usual.

[thrasherpunkkid]

my argument against obama is that he won't listen

he says that he will remove troops from iraq in 12 months when our generals say it would be impossible to di it in less than four

[nasanerd33]

your comment confuses me. If our generals say we can't draw out in less than 4 months, then drawing out in 12 months should be fine. Did you mean 4 years perhaps? And if you did that seems like an overly high estimate.

[thrasherpunkkid]

sorry i meant 16 months

16-12=4

[usnationalist]

I was surprised when all the hoopla was made over Obamas pastors remarks. I thought it was common knowledge that he was a associated with a Racist Church, and had been for a long time.

I thought Obama explanations and all that jazz were acceptable. But I was surprised by his initial response, where he plead ignorance to his pastors racism. Which was obviously a lie- probably why he came clean and made the big o speech the next day.

[jillenium00]

You do a wonderful job. Keep up the good work

[jillenium00]

also, could you do a commentary on the Hilary/CBS/Bosnia trip news to break recently?

[JoeFelice]

Gosh, I kind of think it speaks for itself. I mean it's hilarious, because it's such an obvious lie, and it rams a nice big hole in the assumption we all seem to have that being first lady is a major qualification for being president.

So right now my Bosnia commentary is pretty much all belly laughs and rubbing my palms together.

[lifeandfaith]

Not only does the Wright video montage not represent Obama's views, it is not representational of the hundreds of Wright's sermons that are uplifting positive (almost conservative pull-up-by-your-own boostraps) type of sermons.

Why does not the media report on the huge body of Wright's positive sermons?

[JoeFelice]

True, but understandable in the context of a sensationalist media. It would be like reporting about people not getting murdered.

[JoeFelice]

I did one about John McCain's wife, but I don't really think the first lady is a big political issue. I'll probably do some real stuff about McCain as time goes by. At some point I'd like to bring up the question of how important his age is.

[thrasherpunkkid]

the first lady is not a big issue i call bullshit look at laura bush what has she done

nothing

yes we have some important first ladys like hilary and nancy reagan but alot of first ladies tend not to do much

[JoeFelice]

Thrasher, I think the fact that no one has really noticed this is actually a testament to the fact that it's not as important as other things.

[thrasherpunkkid]

to what comment are refering to

the first lady one or the pull out one

[JoeFelice]

:) the first lady one

[thrasherpunkkid]

Okay but still some first ladies don't do much

now i supose that the first lady position is getting to be slightly more important then it used to be but still tfirst ladies such as both the bushes didn't do tons

[mediamoxy]

Two videos a week for five weeks- I'm excited.

[asburytheo]

Very logical observation about his caricatures; he can't be all those at once. Good analysis.

[goni27]

I think your oversimplyfying the entire issue. and I say this as someone who is sitting on the fence over the whole issue. While I don't think that Jeremiah wrights views refelct Obama's views it is still nonetheless upsetting to white americans (who might possibly support obama)that Obama sat in his church for 20 years. IT comes down to the fact that someone with extreme views such as Wright will have access to the president that others might not have.

[gotmypearls]

goni-Your comment about having access to the president is more relevant when referencing someone who is simple-minded and easily-led by others, which Obama has shown he is not. What needs to be considered is the fact that he is capable of listening to different views, pulling out the best points, and making a logical decision. That's what we all should be able to do...

[goni27]

is dissonance the word of the day?

[thegreenskies]

and you don't have to say "I hate white people" for it to be obvious that you're a racist. Just like a white person doesn't have to say "I hate black people." for you to know their a racist. (Actually they can just see that a person is white to know their racist.)

[JoeFelice]

they?

[thegreenskies]

yes

[ShiekUrBooty]

"Not going anywhere for while, have a 'Sniggers'!"

Yea, "Sniggers" is on youtube and available at stores near yew.

[thegreenskies]

Oh really? fox news couldn't find Obama saying "god damn america." Big surprise. Inform me. What did the rev. say that was true?

[maddogbooks]

Nice vid, keep 'em coming.

[TeleShaman]

AMEN. Joe you ROCK!

[07kane]

Great video on the repercussions of the comments, but I would have liked to have seen you debunk the whole thing. Everyone is calling Rev. Wright a racist and anti-American, but I didn't see one racist comment and most of his views were anti-killing innocent people and anti-interventionist foreign policy, two things really aren't that crazy. Not to mention most of it, with the exception of the AIDS comment, was actually true. When the truth is "anti-America," we have bigger problems than a Rev

[JoeFelice]

That's valid 07kane. One of the clips has him raging against the Tuskeegee Experiment in which black men with syphilis were given placebo treatments and allowed to die for government research. Why shouldn't he be angry about that?

Much of the pulic reaction has been more about his out-of-control delivery, which is something we defend at our peril. There are better battles to fight than fighting over Wright's statements. We need the focus back on our candidate and what he says and does.

[goni27]

while he does have a right to be angry it is the way in which he directs his anger that I find questionable. from what I can gather from viewing his tapes it is as though he is stiring up hatred against whites. Also, while he may have reason for being angry over the Tuskeegee experiment other issues he have have no validity at all. America Knew about pearl harbor?, the government created aids to destory black people. these are nothing less than conspiracy theories.

[jsquared91]

yeah, shouldn't we be worried about how much the rest of the world hates us?

most countries have given up on iraq, and the only reason Britain was in there so long is cause tony blair felt he should be loyal to bush

the war is the main reason why the labor party fell out of power in england

[thegreenskies]

false. there are many other countries in Iraq

[jsquared91]

yeah, but support has fallen since the initial coalition went in, past the point hoped for by the US gov't for sure

[JoeFelice]

For thegreenskies and jsquared (from wikipedia): The current number of coalition troops in Iraq is 166,000.

US=158,000 95%; UK=4,500; Poland, South Korea, and Australia each have 900, and the final 800 are shared by 17 countries--mostly small former Soviet states. 18 additional countries had committed troops but have now withdrawn, including Italy, Spain, Netherlands, Thailand, and Japan.

[saikoza]

Well, that's what you get when you mix religion with politics.

I really can't understand why politics should be preached from the pulpit. I also think it's dangerous to substantiate politics with religion.

[jsquared91]

amen saikoza

the only smart thing huckabee has said is that jesus was too smart to run for office

[ShiekUrBooty]

"I really can't understand why politics should be preached from the pulpit. I also think it's dangerous to substantiate politics with religion."

For one, there's supposed to be separation of church and state. Secondly, if those who make their money off of big religion had to pay taxes, who'd be screaming the loudest?

[goni27]

yes jesus said "render unto Caesar what is Caesars" in other words let the government take care of itself and the church itself. Mixing religion with politics is absurd

[saikoza]

Taking it even further (in reference to Christianity). During Jesus' life on earth many of his followers thought that he was going to lead a rebellion against the oppressive Romans. In their minds the King of the Jews (Messiah) had arrived & was going to free them.

Jesus made it VERY clear that his purpose was to serve & be sacrificed for God's Kingdom - not an earthly (political) one. He never preached against the Roman Empire, but preached about peace, love & forgiveness.

[azikbear]

"shmo with a lot of opinions"

[ShiekUrBooty]

"shmo"? Is that Yiddish for, "Orator wears Roswell T-shirt sans tin foil hat?"

Hahahahaha... :0)

[JoeFelice]

Haha, yeah I went to Roswell in '06 and it was kinda disappointing. I got the feeling they were reluctantly living out the remaining kitsch value of their name in spite of not really liking the whole alien theme to begin with.

It felt like one of many tiny cities in a rural landscape full of kids just waiting for an opportunity to get out. However, I was only there overnight, so I could be completely wrong!