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  • the old dbz was better

  • Wow, this version is garbage... No dramatic music for one of the most dramatic moments in the ENTIRE series??... what a joke.

  • why stephen voice should have been in DBZ series kai

  • And he says scrap not crap....

  • Kai is awesome. Im 22 and grew up with Z. So I'm an "OG". And I love Kai so much more. Gohans voice fits perfectly

  • @crims0nblazer no old gohan voice fitted properly

  • @SuperUltraKO I disagree.

  • @TsuNaru i mean stephens voice fitted pefectly it just gohan new sound to old remember he not 15 + age

  • @SuperUltraKO he's 11

  • @12kez90 thats what i mean

  • "it's time to can it, you worthless crap."

    WTF in Kai cell stole Gohan's "Can it." line? KAI IS EVEN MORE BLASTPHEMOUS THEN I THOUGHT.

  • this is so fukcking sad

  • @tdude900 trust me I want that crap to end too but thats just how it is.

  • Alright ive had enough of this bullshit

    If you hate Kai so much just go watch Z, im getting really sick and fucking tired of this argument of which one is better and which one sucks. Just drop the damn thing already and SHUT THE FUCK UP!

    God damn you people make me sick.

  • @tdude900 Same here dude.

  • omg they raped my childhood

  • GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY­

  • @azalriah123

    Why ?? O_o Cause his voice isn't an "adulte" voice !? During Cell Game, Gohan is still a kid --" He's 11, not 16...

    I think Colleen is THE best voice for American DBZ version =)

  • This... is how they show the releaseing of Gohan's power...In Kai... OH SCREW THIS!! I'm keeping my original DBZ Box set!!!

  • Where the FUCK is all the epic music!? This is a disgrace to the name Dragon Ball Z!!!

  • @LPDarkSoulsHD wuts wrong w/ this music, i think its good and it sounds like the japanese versions music witch in my opinion is 2x more epic than the original english version (bruce faulconer). not saying ALL of his music sucked, but to me sometimes it just sounded like a big noisy mess, like searching for a station on the radio

  • @JakeIChan The theme that plays during this seen in DBZ (Gohan Angers) is fantastic. One of the best Bruce Faulconer songs!

  • @LPDarkSoulsHD Lol thats why i added this theme while listening to it BucketHead Bloodless

  • No ju...no.

  • 1:00 gohan choked for a second

  • @kiman9000 Trust me i used to siy in front of my tv with the original bdz series as a kid. I though kai was ok but there were definately some things done that i prefered in kai, but for the most part kai let a lot of what could have been epic moments, die too quickly. This scene in particular i didnt get that chill when gohan screamed. But if it showed the full 4 mins of transforming it would have been a different story.

  • Colleen's voice is not suitable for teen gohan. Her kid Gohan fits better tho. overall I would say her voice is limited to female characters because if heard her real voice, its sexy. Stephanie was GREAT as SS2 Gohan. but her Kid gohan wasnt suitable for 5 year old, but it was still good. I would cast Colleen for kid gohan and Stephanie for teen gohan

  • @ssj3darkvegeta i heard gohan's actual age here is 10 or 11 years old

  • @MysticalKika101 In the manga he's 10. He's 11 in the anime.

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  • @MultiMaxy95 ohhh that it explains it, but how old is he in the anime

  • i siriously came here to see howw kai ruined the best scene in all of dragonball history sigh :(

  • man, DBZ Kai is awful haha

  • The original was alot better.

  • This...is...eargrating...

  • Honestly this scene had a lot of potential, the gohan actor for kai was great, but they should have showed the full transformation which took a good 4-5 minutes.

  • @BlazenRocker93 dude dont watch this watch dbz not kai if uve seen dbz and still like kai then ur weird

  • @KnightStorm1988 Y U NO VIOLIN!? D:<

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  • in kai its not

  • Lame. His speech blows in comparison to the original.

  • Hey saiyakitsu hate to brake it to you but if you ever watch the end credits of a dragon ball movie his voice is played by a girl I hate it to but it's true but I still love gohan !!!! 😍

  • @webkinz3936 I know he's voiced by a girl, that's my point. He's only 11, meaning he most likely hasn't even cracked his voice.

  • For all those out there saying Gohan sounds like a girl. He's 11 years old, I don't think he even hit puberty yet. He voice is high because he's still a kid.

  • @SaiyaKitsune well yea he's 11, but that voice does NOT sound like an 11 year old boy. it sounds too mature to be 11, but you can OBVIOUSLY tell he was voiced by a girl. that's my issue. if you're going to have a woman voice a little boy, they should at least attempt to sound like a little boy. that's what i liked about the original gohan's voice. he did kinda sound like a girl, but at the same time it was androgynous enough to let slide.

  • @fuzykitty01 The voice of kids only change when they get to their teen years.

    Gohan was 10-11 at the time of the Cell Games, he only became a teen during the college time and Boo's arc.

  • @FilMarck ............i know. but the voice actor didn't even TRY to sound like a little boy. she just straight up sounds like an adult woman. you can't even have the excuse of 'he's 11 and therefore hasn't gone into puberty yet' because even if that were true, little boys SOUND LIKE LITTLE BOYS. they have a different voice tenor than girls even before they hit puberty. it's just not as obvious until teen years. the voice actor just straight up didn't figure this out.

  • @fuzykitty01 It's not as if Stephanie was any better, you could clearly hear it was a women voicing Gohan.

    Stephanie: DBZ Games > DBZ Anime

  • My bad fuzykitty01 the funny thing is his voice is played by a girl

  • Fuzycat01 YOU ARE RIGHT BUT JERES THE FUNNY THING... Is voice is played by a girl

  • i'm not gonna lie you guys. if kai was around when i was a kid and they ended up using this voice for gohan, i would have been convinced he was a girl. he already looks like one, so if he ended up sounding like this, it would only cement it in my mind. XD;;;;;;

  • @fuzykitty01 videl would beg to differ.... :D

  • @CaptainDestructo01 well by the time videl met him, he had grown into himself i'll admit. but cell games and before i would not be able to tell the difference. and that argument's kinda moot because kai won't get to the buu saga and therefore gohan won't meet videl anyway. XD;

  • kai or not, gohan is awesome

  • Argh! Why couldn't they have used Spirit vs. Spirit? That song brought the scene out so well.

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  • in my opinion, the original is better, makes him seem so much more badass

  • @MrRE1DY On this dub though, they were trying to get more emotion from gohan not badassness. Kai, the japanese version, and the manga were all about emotion not being badass with men with muscles flying around and shooting beams<----- Thats how people interpret DBZ because of the original english version.

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  • I really set my biases aside for this one and tried to go in liking this, but this version is awful. It's like they took all of the emotion out of the dialog in Kai.

  • @newyears912 Yeah i love kai, but this one didnt have as much emotion as the japanese version but a little better than the english in my opinion. What made this one not so good was the music placing, tamashii vs tamashii (spirit vs spirit gohans ssj2 theme) would've fit way better. I loved the orignal english one but the music in that one just made it sound like a techno power up and had no emotion, but the voice did.

  • @Unborntinker483 Yeah i agree. Also in the original english right before gohan exploded with power they kind of narrated what he was thinking but here they removed it; originally i had thought that it was a nice touch being able to know what he was thinking, but i guess the makers didnt think so haha

  • @newyears912 What that were trying to get at was they were trying to stick to the manga version and japanese version of dragon ball and those had absolutely no dialogue, besides who wants talking anyway gohan was shocked, speechless and, thoughtless filling with rage with spirit vs spirit in the background not some techno song that sounds repetitive on the original english version music.

  • @Unborntinker483 Your opinion sucks. I honestly could not figure out how to say it any other way.

  • @newyears912 Hey man chill, I loved the original english version on toonami and its music and I still do. What I'm saying is that it's music was poorly placed, voices had room for improvement and that KAI does the voices and music placing amazingly.Most original english fanboys don't look outside the box and see what new things a sub or new dub hast offer, they are just so afraid that its going to suck that they stay in their original english fanboy box and flame on people who like new dub/sub

  • @Unborntinker483 Im not trying to flame it just sounds so rediculous to say that kai is better, most of the music is aweful the dialog has no emotion or depth. its like saying "yeah my honda civic is way better than that guys Ferrari" its crazy

  • @newyears912 In YOUR OPINION it sucks. Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one, but each one is different and that's your opinion if it sucks. If you hate the fact that KAI is closer to the manga, Japanese version, or Akira Toriyama's original idea for dragon ball (which has depth and emotion IMO) then that is like flipping the bird at the man himself and sticking with the pioneer english that wasnt even remotely accurate. The music it was 1980's man with REAL instruments cut it some slack

  • @Unborntinker483 Yeah and your opinion still sucks. Also America made it better.

  • @newyears912 Oh my, your ignorance astounds me.

  • @Unborntinker483 i may seem ignorant to someone who is wrong.

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  • @Unborntinker483 Why? well... because...

    trololololo :)

  • @newyears912 I sense your trolling has ascended past that of a normal troll.

  • @Unborntinker483 Hahaha I knew you would appreciate that after I visited your channel

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  • lol his scream fucking sucks in kai

    Kai in general fucking sucks.

  • @nihilumphobic Obvious troll is obvious or maybe your just a straight up retard.

  • @Unborntinker483 lol dude the chill the fuck out, just saying only faggots and sensitive ppl prefer kai, obviously cuz it sucks balls probably like u do as well, and its quite funny seeing u nerdrage over a cartoon, get a life man

  • @nihilumphobic Well I'm sorry, but what you call being a nerd is what I call being fan about something I watched since I was 2 years old. Oh yes I watched all the versions, and since I love them all, that makes a very fervent fan about it. Being a hardcore DBZ fan means you love and enjoy all versions of the anime without complaining like a little bitch who spams curse words like a homophobic machine gun. And that life you were talking about, you mean the one i have and the one you dont deserve?

  • @Unborntinker483 man u still got ur panties in a knot? chill out already.

  • O_O I loved the Bruce Faulconer music better never really seen Kai so had to see how the music went

  • wow... they... ruined my childhood

  • Wow the dialogue is just is just horrid.

    Kai: I love the animals, And everything about nature.

    Original: Drop your restraints. Protect the life that I love.

  • Will you guys stop bitching about the music? We don't care about your opinion, just keep it to yourself.

  • No1gamer123lastride ohhhhh lol

  • Yamamoto's score was way better for this scene

  • Original dub was better.

  • @Razorsinmysalad OPINIONS! NOT A FACT!

  • @Unborntinker483 Yes, obviously. Stop being butthurt about others opinions.

  • @lordkhan But my butt doesn't hurt my good sir and whats an onion? Is it a fat?

  • @Unborntinker483 No, that's a root vegetable.

  • The only thing that let this scene down was the music. The voice acting was perfect, the mood was perfect, 16's speech.

    The god damn music just had to be epic...But nope, FUNi got screwed again.

  • @TBAGNFACEFUKER

    I could see why they would replace Spirit vs. Spirit when they featured a new musical score. But when it turned out that the new composer was plagiarizing, and thus they reverted to the old score, I don't understand why they replaced Spirit vs. Spirit with some ho-hum piece of work. Spirit vs. Spirit made the scene unforgettable, and I haven't talked to any fan who didn't love the song. Why is everyone so intent on diminishing one of the best scenes from the show?

  • @ConqueredSun It must be the same reason FUNi didnt have Spirit vs Spirit for their Season Sets of DBZ (The Japanese music and English dialogue version)

    Either way, the song would have just been too fast for the Kai scene, the timing is way off to use it, but at the same time, if I had no other option, I would use Spirit vs Spirit and make it work somehow :/

  • @TBAGNFACEFUKER This hasn't anything to do with Funimation. All the music replacement for Kai is done by Toei themselves (the Japanese DVD's have the Kikuchi soundtrack too). The reason they couldn't use Spirit vs Spirit was because it was done by Kenji Yamamoto, the same guy who they fired for plagiarism in the original Kai soundtrack.(While Kikuchi made most of the background music for Z, Yamamoto did some of the vocal songs for Z)

  • @gamefreakin

    Makes sense. Thanks.

  • @ConqueredSun The reason why they replaced Spirit vs Spirit was because it was arranged by the same guy who they just fired for plagiarizing part of the Kai soundtrack (Kenji Yamamoto). While most of the old background music was created by Kikuchi, some of the old vocal songs were arranged by Kenji Yamamoto.

  • Lol my Uncut version of this is better >:P

  • This sucks dicks. Enough said.

  • @psychoracer200 Oh its one of those idiots that cant give an opinion without referencing a male's sex organ. BTW Your comment is only an opinion NOT A FACT. Have a good day

  • @Unborntinker483 Oh look a feminist.

  • @psychoracer200 Get back in the kitchen and make me a samich. Bring some beer with it too.

  • @Unborntinker483 oh look, a very angry feminist.

  • @psychoracer200 What the fuck are you talking about, my last comment was nothing feminist at all, if anything it was against feminism retard.

  • @Unborntinker483 >gets mad when someone says "kai sucks balls"

    >claims not to be a feminist

    >mfw

  • @psychoracer200 >judges a remade anime without realizing why it was remade in the firt place or never seen the uncut dvd version

    >repeats the same insult

    >judges me

    Yup I think that sums it up. Now I'll go fly away to Antarctica. Wee

  • @Unborntinker483 >firt

  • Wow Kai made this scene suuuck

  • @XSomaRukidoX That's because you watched the NICKTOONS version. Wait for the uncut version to come out on DVD.

  • Even though I love DBZ Kai and prefer it over the original Funimation dub, this scene was such a let down. Don't get me wrong I still love it, but Colleen Clinkenbeard was nowhere near as amazing as Stephanie Nadolny in this scene. However, I do commend Colleen for being able to hold that scream for so long.

  • god this scene is such a let down

  • I miss the Yamamoto soundtrack :(

  • Sigh. This is one of the greatest scenes in the original american dub and I am so underwhelmed by Kai's version. It's just...it's just not the same. I'm gonna go appreciate my funimation uncut dvd box sets now. It's a shame for anyone who Kai is their first Dragonball experience. It looks pretty, but it's just not the same.

  • no spirit vs spirit... are you kidding me? DBZ Kai had a chance to get the average american audience to hear that wonderful powerup theme, and they choose some high school band to score the transformation? shame on you dbz kai, shame on your little girl gohan voice, and shame on your 9th grade musical score.

  • I hear the dialouge is supposed to be better in Kai, but Cell just said to 16's head "That's sound advise, from an appliance"

    me: *facepalm* coming from the the green polka-dotted marital aid, that remark is just weak.

  • "... AND I WON'T WATCH THIS ANYMOOOORE!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAA-wait! I don't have any speaking lines here," said Gohan.

  • DrOiiDeRvids MAGIC! lol jk I took the footage from the japanese DVDs and as for #16 Igot the sound effect from the japanese DVD as well. took me about 15 minutes

  • how on earth did u get this its not suppose to come out on dvd for a while

  • @DrOiiDeRvids dude he just put android 16's head being crushed from dbz and put it on this video

  • thanks you made this scene so much better

  • @Boslatine no prob

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