ah yess, we are prouud ooof waaay we are abbble to sttteeeeal secreatttts from theee Ameriiicaaans. The project is a neeeew starrrrt to workkkk thaaat muuust be done. Russia is prooouud of iiiits new fighterrr. You can see is will be waaaave of fuuuuuture for Ruuuussia, Now that weeee have made America our Biiiiitch so to speak we willll be abbble to pay foor it fromm space program wiiith moneyy from Ameriiicca too phly themm to International Space Station. Where Russian heeros waite.
I just find all these major military powers making new superjets a bit scary, and it seems that America has underatimeted there possible enemy's technology. Am I the only one here seeing a next arms race, that could lead to WWIII?
Why does Russia have to join with India to build a jet fighter? Im not trying to be a smart-ass but it does not make any sense? Is Russia not capable enough to build their own fighter?
@brainards1 T-50 development is going be very expensive. It does not make economic sense for Russia to go it alone. Even USA with all its economic power and deep pockets decided to cut down number of Raptors originally ordered as its production and maintenance costs are astronomical. Russia and India together will produce at least 500 T-50s at the cost of $25 billion at least. Its beyond Russia to spend so much money on a single plane and hence it makes good sense to share the cost with India.
@brainards1 T-50 development is going be very expensive. It does not make economic sense for Russia to go it alone. Even USA with all its economic power and deep pockets decided to cut down number of Raptors originally ordered as its production and maintenance costs are astronomical. Russia and India together will produce at least 500 T-50s at the cost of $25 billion at least. Its beyond Russia to spend so much money on a single plane and hence it makes good sense to share the cost with India.
@rasthana Good argument...but the reason the U.S. cut the number of Raptors is based on Politics and not economics. That is just the way its done in the States.
@brainards1 It is economics..... they are very expensive. Sure they could afford it if they wanted too, but that's the thing with budgeting. If you don't cut 'x' then make an exception for 'y' then you will end up cutting nothing.
At $200M each an F22 is extremely expensive considering it is not physically needed. It's not like there is some air war going on and it will turn the tide...
@brainards1 Lol again 'sure it could' but its very expensive. For example Germany or even Britain has enough tax revenue to build a military bigger than the united states.... but at what cost?
It's not can't, its won't. Somethings just are not worth sacrificing other things for. Its not worth Russia developing this plane on its own for a Tiny boost in prestige & secrecy vs having the costs massively reduced by partnering.
@CmdrTobs You are not making any sense...? Prestige...? That is based on someone or everybody knowing about it. Secrecy? Why should they...its a piece of crap any way.
The only nations can afford to buy Sukhoi PAK FA T-50 for export is Brazil, Venezuela, Belarus, Libya, Angola, Vietnam, and Saudi Arabia. Syria is never likely able to afford it and Iran is likely to fall from favor.
Now, i had time 2 study the T-50 more closely. It seems very promising in design. But contrarily 2 Sukhoi Corps. claims of T-50 fully operational status within 4 yrs. is very unrealistic. It will likely require an additional 8 to 10 yrs. 2 achieving what thy seek.
@shadowknight3656 Man. $ 62.5 billions for F-22 prototype and $ 2 bllions for pak-fa T-50 prototype. And 150 plains(F-22) max for the 20 years for US. So who fails? ;-)
@DaNukeOff history is a guide to the future,American legacy fighters dominate Russian fighter aircraft.....
Examples F15 200 kills no losses air to air,f17 1700 combat missions one loss ........Success of the f15 100%,f117 99.9999999%...The f22 and f35 are a updated blended version of both .....It is what it is....
@ClarksonsinUSA All facts are lies. Especially american "facts". And also, american "fighters" were never fight air to air, they were and are now just support the fight, and who knows what will be with them when they will be alone. And I don't really admire these local usa wars with some army who have no anti-air defence, air support and good radars. This is like if you will fight to death with 10y.o. girl, this is dishonourable, that's all. There is no point to discuss it
A technical masterpiece yes, but until it actually has the opportunity to engage enemy fighters it cannot be called a 'success'. $65 billion + could have been spent elsewhere...
U.S. Missile Defense Agency on 2/11/2010, successfully destroyed a boosting ICBM. With 1 of the new Boeing 747F's speed of light directed-energy Airborne Laser weapons. The U.S will soon install & deploy laser weapon systems on many U.S. Navy Ships + some U.S Army Ground force units also.
America could produce and brilliant fighter if not for our bloated bureaucracy and military industrial complex. most of the time the pentagon gives projects to companies for over priced and faulty equipment because of the swinging door at the defense department. they buy the weapons from the companies they are going to work for. its open corruption, to bad the f-22 sucks because of it. maybe the American government can clear up its act, maybe not.
The T-50 might serve as a excellent military spy-plane & or bomber interceptor platform. But i doubt it will gain prov-en world class 5th gen. air superiority fighter status.
rkapo7, And you say the "F-22 is not unreliable to continue with", what Russian propaganda have you been reading? The reason why they are "restricted" as you put it, is 1. They are extremely expensive, 2. NO EASTERN FIGHTER JET CAN COME CLOSE TO ITS CAPABILITIES, You strike me as the kind of person that plays video games all day, then thinks they know how to fly an fighter jet. You need to stop posting information you heard from Russian Facebook, and probably Go back to Russia.
rkapo7 you also say that engines are close to development, and radar is close to development...What world do you live on? No one can make these assertions outside of the Russian aviation industry. These technologies require testing and research, and most of all funds, which are extremely lacking in Russia today. Not to mention American fighters have been destroying Russian one's since the Korean War-through the Iraq War. Fact look it up.
All I assume is the Pak Fa will be better than a SU35. That will make it a very potent Aircraft. If I was a F35 Pilot and my potential enemies had late model SU 27 series aircraft or the Pak Fa I would not assume I had a superior airplane overall. I have never been to Facebook - too many biased uninformed people.
rkapo7, you are making these ridiculous claims that this brand new aircraft, which just made its maiden flight, can outperform and out maneuver their Western counterparts. You also claim that SU series can match the F35, where are you getting this from? You can't just make these claims b/c you're biased toward Russian aircraft and pass them on as fact.
Modern Western Planes can easily defeat poorly maintained old downgraded Russian planes flown by poorly trained pilots with out of date missiles etc.
So what?
Remember Yak solved the problems associated with VTOL Supersonic Aircraft in 1990. Now we will see it in the F35 in an updated form. The USA bought that technology off Yak. You can see the Yak influence in the Airframe.
You summed it up. They hope it will be about half the price of a F22 or F35 and it looks like being superior to the F35 in most aspects and at least equal to the F22. Possibly cheaper than the Eurofighter. Who knows - Russians can get that wrong like everybody else. We don't really know the price of the F35 yet and it certainly has limitations.
american astronauts are flying to space with "russian junk" (ISS), cause they haven't their own junk to fly with anymore. a "second world country" brings americans up to space, how ironic.
you idiots cant even deal with countries like irak..or afghanistan..so shut the fuck up.. and go eat you hamburgers..you peace of shit...
dont tell anything about weapon or aircraft-development.. one thing i can tell you faggot..that about 50% of scientists and ingeneurs working in america are former soviet people and scientists...
america would be nothing without europe and russia... stupid fools!
look at F-22 or F-35. Now try to analyse it's stealth-ability and innovative technology only by it's look. You are SO experts everyone in everything here in the internet, yankees...
The MIG 21 was nice indeed. I'd rather develop the flanker and it's missiles and radar. I don't believe Russia (or India) have the technoogical talent to develope a fighter compatible to or greater than the F-22. After the fall of the Soviet Union, Russia is no longer a great country. In fact, Russia is a second-world country at best.
@JonGarrett2008 I don't say Russian cars are the best, or they make good computers, clouths, but they always were making good, VERY GOOD weapons, every Russian weapon is better than American. AK47 >M16 MIG15>F86 MIG21>F4 MIG29>F16 SU27>F15
R77M1 >AIM120D
VA-111 shkval torpedois better than what America can come up next 30-40 years. BUT American propaganda is undesputably better than Russian.
@JonGarrett2008 KA50>MI28>MI24> Apache Airborn laser is a pure fantasy and waste of taxpayers money Ther is only "SMERCH" who canters all that bullshit. F22 is canceled, dead before it was born, useless shit, well known. F35 is copy of Russian YAK 141, well known fact, but it still useless. Watch video COPY: f 35 is useless
@wall2wall99 Yes I understand, Russians used time mashin to stile YAK 141s disign. I told you Russian technology is better, they even have TIME mashine. Now Russians could make 7th generation jets, before US makes 6th, but it would be not Russian 7th generation jet, it would be stolen from the future.
Whats new here? F-22 developing years -1990 to 1997, T-50 is still making its test flight, har har har. If ever that T-50 can outmoded F-22 or F-35, dont you think as we make comments here, U.S. is not making another fighter planes? Do you think they have stop making much reliable jets just bec. they have the F-22 and F-35, i dont think so. before T-50 will be in service or in its full development im sure U.S. will be introducing a newer one.
Not at all. US now just haven't enough money to develop a next-gen fightercrafts... remember a cancellation of F-22 building and you maybe find out something about what really happens
The F22 has been in service since 2004/5 if I remember correctly.
The F35 can't even match the latest SU series aircraft most areas but Stealth. At about 3 times the price you have to ask is one F35 better than 2-3 Su35's.
The same with the Pak Fa and the F22. Any advanced nation can build great gear today if you throw enough money at the problem. The question is - Is it a practical and cost effective system.
anyone who cites "religion" for anything is a fucking dumbass and obviously incapable of realistic thought. thats why idiots like you believe in a 2000 year old boogeyman. You fucking cowards
plus this plane is at least 5 years away from actually being implemented by the russian air force. Dont you morons think something better will be under development by then???? I swer, the ruskies are always 3 steps behind
and the thing looks like shit. What did they do? Nail a Su37 nose to a half assed attempt at a F22 frame? jesus, welcome to 2nd place Russia, where you've always been and where you'll always be......if you're lucky
chill out, bitch... if everything is so cool for usa, why do U keep on posting these hating comments? cause you know we'll never let you feel absolutly safe, we'll never let U stay unpunished... so keep on spending money for raptor programm - now your ass will be in danger again.
russian idiots can't sober up long enough to build anything worth a fuck. This plane is a piece of junk and its already outdated. It took these idiots 20 years longer than the US to build this garbage which doesn't rival the F-22 in any way. again, congrats on being a 3rd world country. How much for 2 o3 three of your russian women? 50 bucks and a greencard? lol
Danger? I feel safe as I am certain no Russian is going to fly into our airspace with intent on killing. No one in America fears Russia or Russians, and purposely putting fear into americans is not russias goal. We are the ones flying spy planes over your country, but with google earth pro what is the point? haha
the poin is that not that U feel safe cause russians will fly to your airspace, the point is that USAF will not fly to our airspace safely like they did in yugoslavia, vietnam etc.
The USA intends to stay with the F35 until about 2040. Upgrades yes but it is severely restricted in the ways it can be upgraded. The F22 is dead. Why? Money they say or is it like the Shuttle - too expensive and unreliable to continue with. We will know in time. Even if the USA decided to upgrade and build more F22's now they would not be ready by 2015. It would need an upgrade to make it competitive. If that meant it was then going to cost $200US it still would not be cost effective.
true but one day america will begain to have a true democracy and then maybe we can start being the best again.
looks like obama is not going to be the one to change things. the best thing for russia would be if the republicans win. you might as well destroy the us military because it would become completely useless
Most military people, not douchefucks on youtube, have commented that this fighter is well behind the raptor in that its engines are simply off the shelf saturns and its radar is second tier. As far as range goes, the F-22 is an air-superiority fighter that "can" double as a bomber so range isnt as important. Thats why the F35 is still being developed. you people are idiots
There is only one idiot on here. Guess who? It looks to me the PakFa will be superior to the F22 once all the new gear is fitted. New engine almost ready - new Radar almost ready etc etc.
World peace is entirely possible. If only people would realize that there are more of us than them. The governments don't want peace because war and conflict equals profit. If the people said, "No more" and really meant it...it would end. The powers that be are afraid of us, show them that we're not afraid of them. Not with violence, but with love. Al Gore made global warming a popular issue and now everything is going green. What could you do with an abundance of love ?
Anatoly Kornukov, the former commander of Russias Air Force, said that the new jet would be no worse than an F-22, adding: Ive been in an F-22 and I know.
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Anatoly Kornukov, the former commander of Russias Air Force, said that the new jet would be no worse than an F-22, adding: Ive been in an F-22 and I know.
NE XUJE :)))) a ia dumal shto ana i v kosmas palitit mhhuhmaamahahahaumhahu
While I consider myself a left-leaning moderate. It's because of this that I would like to see Congress allowing a bigger order of F-22 and F-35. About it being secret, people have been commenting about this plane for years in defense forums, so it's not nearly as secret for those who have been looking for it.
The Indian version, according to the deal, will be different from the Russian version and specific to Indian requirements. While the Russian version will be a single-pilot fighter, the Indian variant will have a twin-seat configuration based on its operational doctrine which calls for a greater combat radius.
Just will be to expensive for the Soviets to produce. probably will remain only on paper for a long period allowing the U.S.A. and N.A.T.O to mass deploy them before hand to front line units.
It was NOT developed with India! India will receive a different version of the plane, wheras most parts will still be produced in Russia. They cooperate on the development of new engines, that's it.
if you are able to bderstand the american english of the lady speaker ...quote the craft developed in partnership with india was easy and comfortble to fly " ..secondly look up google and see ther references , 50% india partnership
hahahah are you serious? since WWII russia has been technologically superior in battle aircrafts! read some non chauvinistic books! as far as i can remember, in the last wargames, usa was severely beaten off by russia and india's air force...
Independent military affairs analyst Pavel Felgenhauer believes the new plane is a "humbug" and is nothing more than a "flying prototype."
"It doesn't have a new engine, modern weapons, or electronics. It's impossible to make a 5th-generation plane without having 5th-generation components," Felgenhauer told CNN.
More russian garbage. Hey do you think it will work as well as their missile did? Perhaps they should fly it over Norway next time Obama is there. It will make a nice blue spiral and they can deny it was their jet but admit one of their jets crash :P
Just a prototype, cool....They just wanted to test how it handles....I am sure this one doesnt even have weapon system or any other system available in the final release. The same way the kept this out of press sight, they will keep the weapon, radar and even the stealth technology away from the press. Russia has been talking about the Plasma Stealh system since years ago. It is suposed to be better than just angle lines, paint and material to just reduce chances to be detected by a radar....
....While American stealths have to flight dodging the radars signals, the plasma system is suposed to make the aircraft completly invisiable, even if it is just in front of radar, since it rather than absorbing the signal, it refract it an there is no chance of reflection detectable by the radar. According with the test, it really works. What I wonder is how they will handle that hot plasma field around the plane.
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You know, I went on a week long argument with a Ruskie on youtube about his country copying practically most U.S aircraft, starting from the F-15 to the B-1 Lancer, Helicopters, to name a few. All they ever do is, add more weapons and make it a notch or 2 faster and claim its better then the American one. Now comes this piece of shit crap here that is a clear shadow of the F-22. This thing here looks like a metal scrap garbage. I am shocked to see it but not then again,should've known/.
@CucNamCham Stealth aircraft fighter la may bay tang hinh. Khi bay vao dich thi dich khong thay no hay la radar cung khong thay luon. My goi la (stealth fighter).
Copying is what the Russians and Chinese do well. Wait for the US (or Germans in the case of the immediate post-war) to come up with some new fancy tech, then use espionage and reverse engineering to duplicate (and possibly improve on) the design. Saves on R&D costs allowing them to produce more. But it means they are always 1 step behind the US.
Not always, i.e. S-400 is a living proof that in other military fields the US is behind Russia.
But that's not even the point. The point is, any country (worth mentioning) is always spying on the others, you should know that and I hope you're not that much brainwashed to believe the US is the great country and anyone else is copying from it, it's such a childish world-view even for an American.
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Copying what exactly? Before judging R&D effort and who copied what you probably need to learn basics about aircraft design, history etc. This layout for fighters was well known and public long before first showing of Raptor's prototypes. Besides, development of T-50 started in middle of 90's. It's actually somewhat outdated, as its wing was designed and tested using 2D models. Raptor's wing is more complex and contains internal weapon bays. It required 3D wing profiling,
I'm disappointed Russia went with a shoddy looking F-22 clone. They had a far more attractive and striking design that I was hoping they'd use...but its aerodynamics might not have matched its great looks.
India should be given more credit because it largely bankrolled this project-without their help it'd be dead.
Frankly I applaud their effort, its not like America will share its pre-eminent fighter jet with others countries. So if other nations can at least match the US, kudos to them.
lol...ya Russia needs to get out from the US's shadow and makes its own bold designs. I thought they'd do it this time-since some of the designs looked great but they took the 'safe' route by copying the F-22 and also YF-23. Imitation is really a credit to America-people will see the resemblance.
But I think we've seen the last of the manned fighters-the future is drones and again America is at the fore-front. The Ruskies and Indians are wasting time on these jets-they should build drones too.
Copycat! Su-50 PAK FA got F-22 Raptor wings, body, internal carriage, two vertical canted tails, & head of F-35. Russia always been copycat. Russia copy F-22 Raptor design from google images. Also they built cardboard of F-22, F-35, & F/A-23.
Did you create and account just to post this comment??...Dude, let me tell you something, It may looks like a trashy F-22, but at the time it gets in service, it will outperforme the lack of avionic American stealth jets..... It has always been like that, thats why no American jet fight hasnt been able to sustain a serious dogfight with the Mig-29 Fulcrum, there is no F-whatever american jet from the same age able to be compared with a Mig-29. US has never had the guts to fight with Russia.
WTF?! What is the bullshit in these comments? Did Russia hire a bunch of nerds for their propaganda? The combat records for all American-made aircraft speak for itself, so tell me, wtf are you smoking?
@sikorski1337 You tallking about, faked American propaganda combat records? Look at history, according to US "RECORDS" in Korea they lost only 78 F86, but in reality they lost over 350 F86, In Vietnam US lost over 4000 planes all of them was shot down with Russian weapons or with MIG21s. In Serbia one MIG29 was against 22 NATO planes suported by AWACS, and In Iraq all radars were destroyed with cruise misiles, after that 4-5 F15 suported by AWACS and whole USAFs were against one MIG29.
@mikeplay007 how about you go ask the people that flew them, and worked on them. Who's records are you going by? Korea's? Vietnam's? Like those are accurate records. Believe them, and I have a bridge to sell ya
Americans shouldn't try and say that Russians copied their designs when the US has long copied or imitated the superior Mig aircraft or Russia's hevy bombers.
Russia's navy may be aging and lagging, but it's nuclear missiles, missile defence and SAM's and fighter jets are still top notch in the world.
Sad thing is, the cancelled F-22 was loads better than the F-35 JSF they are building and sharing with the other countries such as Turkey. Is that a wise decision?
Even if one assumes that Russians stole the YF23 blueprints to build F50, it only means that American counter-intelligence is crap and Russian intelligence works really damn well ))
Gosh, Americans claiming that Russian engineers cannot produce anything without stealing blueprints just don't know (or forget) that a huge Boeing center operates in Moscow so that, say, dreamliner's development continues 24/7: when guys in Seattle go to bed, their colleagues in Moscow take over, and so on.
Kinda resembles the canceled Northrop YF-23. However, I'm sure it's a hell of an aircraft & much more reliable. Russian built aircraft are known for their durability esp the ability to operate from unimproved runways. Their engines are supreme. I would not want to face one in a dogfight. Here's to you Sukhoi, I love your aircraft!
Sorry, it doesn't look anything like the canceled CRAPtor, btw don't u have some Chinese dicks to suck for moar loans so u can even build f-35, or is that crap getting canceled as well??
F22 was canceled due to stupid US politicians (most likely liberals).
But it was state-of-the-art and you can bet if America goes to war with nation states, it'll start cranking out F22s by the dozens.
If the Russian-India T-50 can equal the F-22 with its technology (avionics, stealth, supercruise, etc) and could equal a Raptor in a dogfighter, then I'll be truly impressed.
I don't think America has anything to worry about just yet-airframe is one thing but its advanced technology that wins.
F22 was cancelled? you're an idiot. F-22 is a main fighter jets for u.s. elite airforce. And F-35B will be replace for F/A-18 Hornet for fighter bomber.
All i can see at this video another copy cat on YF-23.
@M4A108 , was the technology of VA-111 Shkval supercavitating torpedoes was a copy?, the design begun in 1960 in USSR but still the US navy still has no answer for this.How about SS-N-22 Sunburn, designed in the 70's, still US navy has no answer for this. Read also the story of Mig-15 Klimov RD-45 engine, a reverse-engineered of Rolls-Royce Nene and read how the soviets got this technology. Think again industrial espionage is very common this days.
M4a-you're a fucking moron, look it up. It became too expensive to procure, so they canceled the program. The ones that were built are still in use.
And by the way the F-35 also has become very expensive, but there might be enough interest to keep it going. The UK has canceled or downsized their orders already.
Actually the overall airframe of the T-50 more closely resembles the F-22, just vertical stabilizers spacing matches the YF23.
Actually, american F22 just an expensive piece of crap which not able to fly like normal jet. American patriots, please, keep ur ideas where they were born - in ur asses.
Actually they will build at least 150 of them, not canceling, unlike u do in your shitty usa economy. Always enough gas n oil profits to pull this project through, so cry all u want, u fat american pig.
Also, it looks nothing like f-22, but more like su-37, so now we know u are fat, stupid n have bad eyesight too. Ofc u want to write it off as a "copy" u are SCARED of what it can do. What can it do? Well, top secret, but I guess u know enough to form an opinion mr expert?
pretty impressive jet.... but does it have a cup holder?
poyanator 3 weeks ago
why have a super jet when you could have a missile that you can launch anywhere and have it strike anywhere
britishcommando1 1 month ago
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ah yess, we are prouud ooof waaay we are abbble to sttteeeeal secreatttts from theee Ameriiicaaans. The project is a neeeew starrrrt to workkkk thaaat muuust be done. Russia is prooouud of iiiits new fighterrr. You can see is will be waaaave of fuuuuuture for Ruuuussia, Now that weeee have made America our Biiiiitch so to speak we willll be abbble to pay foor it fromm space program wiiith moneyy from Ameriiicca too phly themm to International Space Station. Where Russian heeros waite.
scottwins2 7 months ago
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scottwins2 7 months ago
"Easy and comfortable..." Russian vehicle that is comfortable?? lawl, never thought id hear that.
TacticalMonky 8 months ago
It looks beautiful. Their avionics may fall a little behind, but the Russians definitely know how to build them pretty.
Calenfeyn41 8 months ago
@wtfyiseverynamtaken I just don't get it, becose of my english I guess.
DaNukeOff 8 months ago
Ah fu**. not to this vid.
DaNukeOff 11 months ago
Please. What's the music? aaaaaaaa!!!!!
DaNukeOff 11 months ago
I just find all these major military powers making new superjets a bit scary, and it seems that America has underatimeted there possible enemy's technology. Am I the only one here seeing a next arms race, that could lead to WWIII?
CyclonicTuna023 1 year ago 4
@CyclonicTuna023 yeah pretty much, why would any country want a ww3?
viewer8D 5 months ago
@CyclonicTuna023 Nah don't worry. All mainstream political scientists believe that Russia and America will never go to war with each other.
TheTymera 1 month ago
NO MORE COMMERCIALS!!!
beckyewens 1 year ago
now US economic going down. they deal with india because to give job for their pepole .
avinash1990singh 1 year ago
Russia and india friendship was good .india will be number 1 after 2030 economically .huhaaaaaaaaaa
avinash1990singh 1 year ago
developed WITH India?! WTF?
Crawlerz2468 1 year ago
@Crawlerz2468 Russia has an economy the size of Spain, they needed another nations resources to make it go forward...
ClarksonsinUSA 9 months ago
0:07 looks almost exactly like an f22 but wider
warhawk9566 1 year ago
@warhawk9566 Get a pair of glasses, totally different aerodynamics.
2129261184 11 months ago
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Rafaelo700 1 year ago
Why does Russia have to join with India to build a jet fighter? Im not trying to be a smart-ass but it does not make any sense? Is Russia not capable enough to build their own fighter?
brainards1 1 year ago
@brainards1 T-50 development is going be very expensive. It does not make economic sense for Russia to go it alone. Even USA with all its economic power and deep pockets decided to cut down number of Raptors originally ordered as its production and maintenance costs are astronomical. Russia and India together will produce at least 500 T-50s at the cost of $25 billion at least. Its beyond Russia to spend so much money on a single plane and hence it makes good sense to share the cost with India.
rasthana 1 year ago
@brainards1 T-50 development is going be very expensive. It does not make economic sense for Russia to go it alone. Even USA with all its economic power and deep pockets decided to cut down number of Raptors originally ordered as its production and maintenance costs are astronomical. Russia and India together will produce at least 500 T-50s at the cost of $25 billion at least. Its beyond Russia to spend so much money on a single plane and hence it makes good sense to share the cost with India.
rasthana 1 year ago
@rasthana Good argument...but the reason the U.S. cut the number of Raptors is based on Politics and not economics. That is just the way its done in the States.
brainards1 1 year ago
@brainards1 It is economics..... they are very expensive. Sure they could afford it if they wanted too, but that's the thing with budgeting. If you don't cut 'x' then make an exception for 'y' then you will end up cutting nothing.
At $200M each an F22 is extremely expensive considering it is not physically needed. It's not like there is some air war going on and it will turn the tide...
CmdrTobs 1 year ago
@brainards1 Lol again 'sure it could' but its very expensive. For example Germany or even Britain has enough tax revenue to build a military bigger than the united states.... but at what cost?
It's not can't, its won't. Somethings just are not worth sacrificing other things for. Its not worth Russia developing this plane on its own for a Tiny boost in prestige & secrecy vs having the costs massively reduced by partnering.
CmdrTobs 1 year ago
@CmdrTobs You are not making any sense...? Prestige...? That is based on someone or everybody knowing about it. Secrecy? Why should they...its a piece of crap any way.
brainards1 1 year ago
@brainards1 Its pretty clear. nvm.
CmdrTobs 1 year ago
@CmdrTobs I agree!
brainards1 1 year ago
Russians always have surprises ....for world....!!!
This time together with India they will have a blast..!
ricky69bond 1 year ago
Brutal Russian pigs...
Jorge235ful 1 year ago
T-50's capabilities are morelike the f-35, from what i heard its stealth capabilities arent very impressive
Lukeclout 1 year ago
The only nations can afford to buy Sukhoi PAK FA T-50 for export is Brazil, Venezuela, Belarus, Libya, Angola, Vietnam, and Saudi Arabia. Syria is never likely able to afford it and Iran is likely to fall from favor.
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wall2wall99 1 year ago 7
Now, i had time 2 study the T-50 more closely. It seems very promising in design. But contrarily 2 Sukhoi Corps. claims of T-50 fully operational status within 4 yrs. is very unrealistic. It will likely require an additional 8 to 10 yrs. 2 achieving what thy seek.
wall2wall99 1 year ago 7
@DrSoblev you r a failure the f-22 is a success get your facts right
shadowknight3656 1 year ago 2
@shadowknight3656 Man. $ 62.5 billions for F-22 prototype and $ 2 bllions for pak-fa T-50 prototype. And 150 plains(F-22) max for the 20 years for US. So who fails? ;-)
DaNukeOff 11 months ago
@DaNukeOff history is a guide to the future,American legacy fighters dominate Russian fighter aircraft.....
Examples F15 200 kills no losses air to air,f17 1700 combat missions one loss ........Success of the f15 100%,f117 99.9999999%...The f22 and f35 are a updated blended version of both .....It is what it is....
;) I just love facts....
ClarksonsinUSA 9 months ago
@ClarksonsinUSA All facts are lies. Especially american "facts". And also, american "fighters" were never fight air to air, they were and are now just support the fight, and who knows what will be with them when they will be alone. And I don't really admire these local usa wars with some army who have no anti-air defence, air support and good radars. This is like if you will fight to death with 10y.o. girl, this is dishonourable, that's all. There is no point to discuss it
DaNukeOff 9 months ago
@DaNukeOff .....WOW...
Can you say clueless...
ClarksonsinUSA 9 months ago
@shadowknight3656
A technical masterpiece yes, but until it actually has the opportunity to engage enemy fighters it cannot be called a 'success'. $65 billion + could have been spent elsewhere...
bigjoey1988 10 months ago
@shadowknight3656 F22 is a Failure...get YOUR facts Right mate!!! before posting Comments based on your Personal Choices
Devilion901 10 months ago
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wall2wall99 2 years ago
It will blend and bleed F-22, hahahahah.
bhartha2007 2 years ago
Will it blend?
Risk2029 2 years ago
fox three
verdebusterAP 2 years ago
U.S. Missile Defense Agency on 2/11/2010, successfully destroyed a boosting ICBM. With 1 of the new Boeing 747F's speed of light directed-energy Airborne Laser weapons. The U.S will soon install & deploy laser weapon systems on many U.S. Navy Ships + some U.S Army Ground force units also.
wall2wall99 2 years ago
America could produce and brilliant fighter if not for our bloated bureaucracy and military industrial complex. most of the time the pentagon gives projects to companies for over priced and faulty equipment because of the swinging door at the defense department. they buy the weapons from the companies they are going to work for. its open corruption, to bad the f-22 sucks because of it. maybe the American government can clear up its act, maybe not.
were fucked
thesparitan 2 years ago
@thesparitan True.
CmdrTobs 1 year ago
BUT CAN IT HANDLE RAIN?
SASardonic 2 years ago
The T-50 might serve as a excellent military spy-plane & or bomber interceptor platform. But i doubt it will gain prov-en world class 5th gen. air superiority fighter status.
wall2wall99 2 years ago 2
rkapo7, And you say the "F-22 is not unreliable to continue with", what Russian propaganda have you been reading? The reason why they are "restricted" as you put it, is 1. They are extremely expensive, 2. NO EASTERN FIGHTER JET CAN COME CLOSE TO ITS CAPABILITIES, You strike me as the kind of person that plays video games all day, then thinks they know how to fly an fighter jet. You need to stop posting information you heard from Russian Facebook, and probably Go back to Russia.
nvelazq2 2 years ago
@nvelazq2 f22 is a failure
watch?v=aCRhOnOWyaA
DrSobolev 2 years ago
Actually there is no official flight test data. So there is no sense to argue.
AgentVRush 2 years ago
rkapo7 you also say that engines are close to development, and radar is close to development...What world do you live on? No one can make these assertions outside of the Russian aviation industry. These technologies require testing and research, and most of all funds, which are extremely lacking in Russia today. Not to mention American fighters have been destroying Russian one's since the Korean War-through the Iraq War. Fact look it up.
nvelazq2 2 years ago
All I assume is the Pak Fa will be better than a SU35. That will make it a very potent Aircraft. If I was a F35 Pilot and my potential enemies had late model SU 27 series aircraft or the Pak Fa I would not assume I had a superior airplane overall. I have never been to Facebook - too many biased uninformed people.
rkapo7 2 years ago
rkapo7, you are making these ridiculous claims that this brand new aircraft, which just made its maiden flight, can outperform and out maneuver their Western counterparts. You also claim that SU series can match the F35, where are you getting this from? You can't just make these claims b/c you're biased toward Russian aircraft and pass them on as fact.
nvelazq2 2 years ago
Modern Western Planes can easily defeat poorly maintained old downgraded Russian planes flown by poorly trained pilots with out of date missiles etc.
So what?
Remember Yak solved the problems associated with VTOL Supersonic Aircraft in 1990. Now we will see it in the F35 in an updated form. The USA bought that technology off Yak. You can see the Yak influence in the Airframe.
rkapo7 2 years ago
I got both picture of F-22 Raptor & Su-50 PAK FA design in my background.
USAAIRPOWER 2 years ago
american bitches you havent plat what do russia. muhahaha
ROSSIJA WPEROD!
75213rr 2 years ago
A beautiful aircraft!!! Can't wait to see it flying up close!
LotsOfBikes 2 years ago
You summed it up. They hope it will be about half the price of a F22 or F35 and it looks like being superior to the F35 in most aspects and at least equal to the F22. Possibly cheaper than the Eurofighter. Who knows - Russians can get that wrong like everybody else. We don't really know the price of the F35 yet and it certainly has limitations.
rkapo7 2 years ago
meh... a sukhoi su-27 with a new cover
richie8811 2 years ago
@heythere903 & Co
american astronauts are flying to space with "russian junk" (ISS), cause they haven't their own junk to fly with anymore. a "second world country" brings americans up to space, how ironic.
Slidnpisukati 2 years ago
hahahaha
you idiots cant even deal with countries like irak..or afghanistan..so shut the fuck up.. and go eat you hamburgers..you peace of shit...
dont tell anything about weapon or aircraft-development.. one thing i can tell you faggot..that about 50% of scientists and ingeneurs working in america are former soviet people and scientists...
america would be nothing without europe and russia... stupid fools!
Vveetteerraann 2 years ago
another piece of Russian junk.
- no super cruise
- non-stealth
- no new innovative technology
- lack of funding and poor pilot training makes this a 21st century MiG-21
JonGarrett2008 2 years ago
lol...
look at F-22 or F-35. Now try to analyse it's stealth-ability and innovative technology only by it's look. You are SO experts everyone in everything here in the internet, yankees...
KamikazzeRu 2 years ago
@JonGarrett2008 MIG21 was fucking every jet of it's time, but who told you non super cruise? Super cruise of P/F 1800km/h
F22 have 15,5 ton thrust of each engen; P/F 17,5 t each engen
F22 T/W ratio 1,14, P/F 1,4
F22 have 2400km/h, P/F 2600km/h
F22 range 3200km, P/F 5500km
F22 have 2D T/V, P/F have 3D T/V
F22 g-load +9g. P/F have +11g
If F22 and P/F would face eachother in a reall fight, pilot of F22 rather would EJECTS than fight with this "MONSTER"
mikeplay007 2 years ago
The MIG 21 was nice indeed. I'd rather develop the flanker and it's missiles and radar. I don't believe Russia (or India) have the technoogical talent to develope a fighter compatible to or greater than the F-22. After the fall of the Soviet Union, Russia is no longer a great country. In fact, Russia is a second-world country at best.
JonGarrett2008 2 years ago
@JonGarrett2008 I don't say Russian cars are the best, or they make good computers, clouths, but they always were making good, VERY GOOD weapons, every Russian weapon is better than American. AK47 >M16 MIG15>F86 MIG21>F4 MIG29>F16 SU27>F15
R77M1 >AIM120D
VA-111 shkval torpedois better than what America can come up next 30-40 years. BUT American propaganda is undesputably better than Russian.
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JonGarrett2008 2 years ago
@JonGarrett2008 KA50>MI28>MI24> Apache Airborn laser is a pure fantasy and waste of taxpayers money Ther is only "SMERCH" who canters all that bullshit. F22 is canceled, dead before it was born, useless shit, well known. F35 is copy of Russian YAK 141, well known fact, but it still useless. Watch video COPY: f 35 is useless
mikeplay007 2 years ago
@mikeplay007
Wow, this is all bullshit.
sikorski1337 1 year ago
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wall2wall99 1 year ago
@wall2wall99 Yes I understand, Russians used time mashin to stile YAK 141s disign. I told you Russian technology is better, they even have TIME mashine. Now Russians could make 7th generation jets, before US makes 6th, but it would be not Russian 7th generation jet, it would be stolen from the future.
mikeplay007 1 year ago
apache longbow - Mi-28 , Ka-50
B2 bomber - not stealthy but powerful Tu-160
B2 is a waste of money
airborne laser is not needed with S-500
javelin - AT-14 kornet
F-35 and F-22 - Pak FA
predator - russians currently are purchasing isrealei equivavalent
SCAR - An-94 for example
you should remeber , that russians arent dumber than US scientist , but tehy havent got money to introduce \everything and doctrine is other in russia
Dollar1998 2 years ago
JonGarrett2008 - where do you live - on Mars?
The TU160 Bomber - bigger faster. high and low altitude. The B2 has been plagued with problems.
F35 & F22 - the Pak Fa of course.
Superior Missiles also in most areas.
Air To Air - Air to Ship etc. etc.
The Global Hawk - you win that one - Say 3-5 years. They can't be the best at everything like the USA THINKS they are.
rkapo7 2 years ago
hahahahah
Beuzebub 2 years ago
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wall2wall99 1 year ago 2
>JonGarrett2008
your propaganda is good only for developed country without good weapon, only them you can bombard becous you are nation of cowards
KrymRus 2 years ago
Boy do you live in DENIAL!
edwong3 2 years ago
Whats new here? F-22 developing years -1990 to 1997, T-50 is still making its test flight, har har har. If ever that T-50 can outmoded F-22 or F-35, dont you think as we make comments here, U.S. is not making another fighter planes? Do you think they have stop making much reliable jets just bec. they have the F-22 and F-35, i dont think so. before T-50 will be in service or in its full development im sure U.S. will be introducing a newer one.
junver29 2 years ago
Not at all. US now just haven't enough money to develop a next-gen fightercrafts... remember a cancellation of F-22 building and you maybe find out something about what really happens
KamikazzeRu 2 years ago
its not money why they cancelled F22, its politics.
junver29 2 years ago
The F22 has been in service since 2004/5 if I remember correctly.
The F35 can't even match the latest SU series aircraft most areas but Stealth. At about 3 times the price you have to ask is one F35 better than 2-3 Su35's.
The same with the Pak Fa and the F22. Any advanced nation can build great gear today if you throw enough money at the problem. The question is - Is it a practical and cost effective system.
rkapo7 2 years ago
the americans F series plane downed its value. Russia s still the numbe one .
MrKommentaryo 2 years ago
anyone who cites "religion" for anything is a fucking dumbass and obviously incapable of realistic thought. thats why idiots like you believe in a 2000 year old boogeyman. You fucking cowards
heythere903 2 years ago
plus this plane is at least 5 years away from actually being implemented by the russian air force. Dont you morons think something better will be under development by then???? I swer, the ruskies are always 3 steps behind
heythere903 2 years ago
and the thing looks like shit. What did they do? Nail a Su37 nose to a half assed attempt at a F22 frame? jesus, welcome to 2nd place Russia, where you've always been and where you'll always be......if you're lucky
heythere903 2 years ago
chill out, bitch... if everything is so cool for usa, why do U keep on posting these hating comments? cause you know we'll never let you feel absolutly safe, we'll never let U stay unpunished... so keep on spending money for raptor programm - now your ass will be in danger again.
capitanTyTy 2 years ago
russian idiots can't sober up long enough to build anything worth a fuck. This plane is a piece of junk and its already outdated. It took these idiots 20 years longer than the US to build this garbage which doesn't rival the F-22 in any way. again, congrats on being a 3rd world country. How much for 2 o3 three of your russian women? 50 bucks and a greencard? lol
heythere903 2 years ago
Danger? I feel safe as I am certain no Russian is going to fly into our airspace with intent on killing. No one in America fears Russia or Russians, and purposely putting fear into americans is not russias goal. We are the ones flying spy planes over your country, but with google earth pro what is the point? haha
amorefati 2 years ago
the poin is that not that U feel safe cause russians will fly to your airspace, the point is that USAF will not fly to our airspace safely like they did in yugoslavia, vietnam etc.
capitanTyTy 2 years ago
I see, makes sense
amorefati 2 years ago
The USA intends to stay with the F35 until about 2040. Upgrades yes but it is severely restricted in the ways it can be upgraded. The F22 is dead. Why? Money they say or is it like the Shuttle - too expensive and unreliable to continue with. We will know in time. Even if the USA decided to upgrade and build more F22's now they would not be ready by 2015. It would need an upgrade to make it competitive. If that meant it was then going to cost $200US it still would not be cost effective.
rkapo7 2 years ago
true but one day america will begain to have a true democracy and then maybe we can start being the best again.
looks like obama is not going to be the one to change things. the best thing for russia would be if the republicans win. you might as well destroy the us military because it would become completely useless
thesparitan 2 years ago
There is probably no democracy at all:) Somebody always want to got the power)))
AgentVRush 2 years ago
Most military people, not douchefucks on youtube, have commented that this fighter is well behind the raptor in that its engines are simply off the shelf saturns and its radar is second tier. As far as range goes, the F-22 is an air-superiority fighter that "can" double as a bomber so range isnt as important. Thats why the F35 is still being developed. you people are idiots
heythere903 2 years ago
There is only one idiot on here. Guess who? It looks to me the PakFa will be superior to the F22 once all the new gear is fitted. New engine almost ready - new Radar almost ready etc etc.
rkapo7 2 years ago
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World peace is entirely possible. If only people would realize that there are more of us than them. The governments don't want peace because war and conflict equals profit. If the people said, "No more" and really meant it...it would end. The powers that be are afraid of us, show them that we're not afraid of them. Not with violence, but with love. Al Gore made global warming a popular issue and now everything is going green. What could you do with an abundance of love ?
aeon23 2 years ago
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Anatoly Kornukov, the former commander of Russias Air Force, said that the new jet would be no worse than an F-22, adding: Ive been in an F-22 and I know.
NE XUJE :)))) a ia dumal shto ana i v kosmas palitit mhhuhmaamahahahaumhahu
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SAVETSKI BALNOI SAMI ZDAROVI BALNOI V MIRE URAAAAAAAAA :)))))))))))))
coggiola 2 years ago
@eighenvalue
They said that the price will be 100 million dollars, much less than the F-22--> 300 millions ;)
jiko12 2 years ago
the u.s army has haarp that will knock these out of the air with one impulse
VERONESEDAN 2 years ago
Anatoly Kornukov, the former commander of Russias Air Force, said that the new jet would be no worse than an F-22, adding: Ive been in an F-22 and I know.
NE XUJE :)))) a ia dumal shto ana i v kosmas palitit mhhuhmaamahahahaumhahu
coggiola 2 years ago
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coggiola
Obama got 666 drawn at election time
EndOfTimesApocalypse 2 years ago
@coggiola Former commander is just trying to say something nice about the plane but deep down he knows its a Mig 29 with a new body.
buddacafe 2 years ago
something like that :)
coggiola 2 years ago
ステルス戦闘機
pumoo 2 years ago
It's veeeeery cool!!!
Can it do super cruise-flight?
How about it's avionics and stealth performance?
Please tell me, pentagon! CIA!
limitedQ 2 years ago
they should name this jet "RAPTORSKI" :))))))))))))))))))
MUA MUAHAHA MUAAHAHAHAHA
coggiola 2 years ago
While I consider myself a left-leaning moderate. It's because of this that I would like to see Congress allowing a bigger order of F-22 and F-35. About it being secret, people have been commenting about this plane for years in defense forums, so it's not nearly as secret for those who have been looking for it.
joel82cz 2 years ago
The Indian version, according to the deal, will be different from the Russian version and specific to Indian requirements. While the Russian version will be a single-pilot fighter, the Indian variant will have a twin-seat configuration based on its operational doctrine which calls for a greater combat radius.
thesamedison 2 years ago
I can't to get the 1/72 plastic kit of these sleek Jet!
Hopefully Zveda will release one soon.
Uberaoshi 2 years ago
Just will be to expensive for the Soviets to produce. probably will remain only on paper for a long period allowing the U.S.A. and N.A.T.O to mass deploy them before hand to front line units.
SCHRUBBE1966 2 years ago
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SCHRUBBE1966 2 years ago
Thank you....I was thinking something like that too, Since they dont explain that much, you know, there are many things to think about it hahaha.
wtrdogg20 2 years ago
It was NOT developed with India! India will receive a different version of the plane, wheras most parts will still be produced in Russia. They cooperate on the development of new engines, that's it.
dschangor 2 years ago
if you are able to bderstand the american english of the lady speaker ...quote the craft developed in partnership with india was easy and comfortble to fly " ..secondly look up google and see ther references , 50% india partnership
romalondra 2 years ago
Nice jet but the part about it being secret and that it was In partnership with India that had me the most interested.
Bomb29 2 years ago
Haha! The U.S trains India in the arts of programming and Russia phone calls India for assistance.
Its official! This plane is an Indian plane!
buddacafe 2 years ago
hahahah are you serious? since WWII russia has been technologically superior in battle aircrafts! read some non chauvinistic books! as far as i can remember, in the last wargames, usa was severely beaten off by russia and india's air force...
soparamens 2 years ago 2
"It's just a tuned-up version of the existing Sukhoi-27 model."
buddacafe 2 years ago
Independent military affairs analyst Pavel Felgenhauer believes the new plane is a "humbug" and is nothing more than a "flying prototype."
"It doesn't have a new engine, modern weapons, or electronics. It's impossible to make a 5th-generation plane without having 5th-generation components," Felgenhauer told CNN.
buddacafe 2 years ago
More russian garbage. Hey do you think it will work as well as their missile did? Perhaps they should fly it over Norway next time Obama is there. It will make a nice blue spiral and they can deny it was their jet but admit one of their jets crash :P
Laysoles 2 years ago
Just a prototype, cool....They just wanted to test how it handles....I am sure this one doesnt even have weapon system or any other system available in the final release. The same way the kept this out of press sight, they will keep the weapon, radar and even the stealth technology away from the press. Russia has been talking about the Plasma Stealh system since years ago. It is suposed to be better than just angle lines, paint and material to just reduce chances to be detected by a radar....
wtrdogg20 2 years ago
....While American stealths have to flight dodging the radars signals, the plasma system is suposed to make the aircraft completly invisiable, even if it is just in front of radar, since it rather than absorbing the signal, it refract it an there is no chance of reflection detectable by the radar. According with the test, it really works. What I wonder is how they will handle that hot plasma field around the plane.
wtrdogg20 2 years ago
ageing army? LOL! russia still has the best snipers, tanks, anti air, helicopters, etc. that the world has ever seen
xsonicbladex 2 years ago
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You know, I went on a week long argument with a Ruskie on youtube about his country copying practically most U.S aircraft, starting from the F-15 to the B-1 Lancer, Helicopters, to name a few. All they ever do is, add more weapons and make it a notch or 2 faster and claim its better then the American one. Now comes this piece of shit crap here that is a clear shadow of the F-22. This thing here looks like a metal scrap garbage. I am shocked to see it but not then again,should've known/.
grinkale 2 years ago
Google "Petr Ufimtsev"
hyemp3s 2 years ago
what is to prove this is a stealth fighter?
hoangtvu 2 years ago
hoangtvu ? stealth la gi ha ? CNC nho Co Biet luc truoc ..
CucNamCham 2 years ago
@CucNamCham Stealth aircraft fighter la may bay tang hinh. Khi bay vao dich thi dich khong thay no hay la radar cung khong thay luon. My goi la (stealth fighter).
hoangtvu 2 years ago
Da CNC cam on hoangtvu nhieu nhe !
CucNamCham 2 years ago
Copying is what the Russians and Chinese do well. Wait for the US (or Germans in the case of the immediate post-war) to come up with some new fancy tech, then use espionage and reverse engineering to duplicate (and possibly improve on) the design. Saves on R&D costs allowing them to produce more. But it means they are always 1 step behind the US.
Cobra666Commander 2 years ago
Not always, i.e. S-400 is a living proof that in other military fields the US is behind Russia.
But that's not even the point. The point is, any country (worth mentioning) is always spying on the others, you should know that and I hope you're not that much brainwashed to believe the US is the great country and anyone else is copying from it, it's such a childish world-view even for an American.
r45d15 2 years ago 3
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Birwapa 2 years ago
Copying what exactly? Before judging R&D effort and who copied what you probably need to learn basics about aircraft design, history etc. This layout for fighters was well known and public long before first showing of Raptor's prototypes. Besides, development of T-50 started in middle of 90's. It's actually somewhat outdated, as its wing was designed and tested using 2D models. Raptor's wing is more complex and contains internal weapon bays. It required 3D wing profiling,
alex9044 2 years ago
ROFL I read this news at our office this morning, But i just arrive at home and see the video i was WTF! it's look like YF-23 still in USA project.
And i was thinking tonight man does this communist nuts copy a plane on Ace Combat 6? LOL WTF!
Su-47 project was abandon and it's a failure project!
M4A108 2 years ago
I'm disappointed Russia went with a shoddy looking F-22 clone. They had a far more attractive and striking design that I was hoping they'd use...but its aerodynamics might not have matched its great looks.
India should be given more credit because it largely bankrolled this project-without their help it'd be dead.
Frankly I applaud their effort, its not like America will share its pre-eminent fighter jet with others countries. So if other nations can at least match the US, kudos to them.
l1011l 2 years ago
This plane was copy on YF-23 and it's a project from USA.
Maybe they copy this one at ace combat 6 ROFL!
M4A108 2 years ago
lol...ya Russia needs to get out from the US's shadow and makes its own bold designs. I thought they'd do it this time-since some of the designs looked great but they took the 'safe' route by copying the F-22 and also YF-23. Imitation is really a credit to America-people will see the resemblance.
But I think we've seen the last of the manned fighters-the future is drones and again America is at the fore-front. The Ruskies and Indians are wasting time on these jets-they should build drones too.
l1011l 2 years ago
Yea, i never though the commie nuts is copy cat nowadays.
I wonder whos next ? another wanna be copy cat chines ?
Hey i am pretty sure they copy the art of YF-23 on Xbox360 game ace combat 6 ROFL!
M4A108 2 years ago
About time, looks like a good aircraft.
But it does look like a copy of a F-22.
SangheiliSniper11 2 years ago
Copycat! Su-50 PAK FA got F-22 Raptor wings, body, internal carriage, two vertical canted tails, & head of F-35. Russia always been copycat. Russia copy F-22 Raptor design from google images. Also they built cardboard of F-22, F-35, & F/A-23.
USAAIRPOWER 2 years ago
Did you create and account just to post this comment??...Dude, let me tell you something, It may looks like a trashy F-22, but at the time it gets in service, it will outperforme the lack of avionic American stealth jets..... It has always been like that, thats why no American jet fight hasnt been able to sustain a serious dogfight with the Mig-29 Fulcrum, there is no F-whatever american jet from the same age able to be compared with a Mig-29. US has never had the guts to fight with Russia.
wtrdogg20 2 years ago 3
Mig-29 is sexy.
TsarSamuil 2 years ago
@wtrdogg20
WTF?! What is the bullshit in these comments? Did Russia hire a bunch of nerds for their propaganda? The combat records for all American-made aircraft speak for itself, so tell me, wtf are you smoking?
sikorski1337 1 year ago
@sikorski1337 You tallking about, faked American propaganda combat records? Look at history, according to US "RECORDS" in Korea they lost only 78 F86, but in reality they lost over 350 F86, In Vietnam US lost over 4000 planes all of them was shot down with Russian weapons or with MIG21s. In Serbia one MIG29 was against 22 NATO planes suported by AWACS, and In Iraq all radars were destroyed with cruise misiles, after that 4-5 F15 suported by AWACS and whole USAFs were against one MIG29.
mikeplay007 1 year ago
@mikeplay007 how about you go ask the people that flew them, and worked on them. Who's records are you going by? Korea's? Vietnam's? Like those are accurate records. Believe them, and I have a bridge to sell ya
Jea3CD 1 year ago
Oh no, and we canceled the F-22, what ever shall we do?
KingAssmar 2 years ago
Americans shouldn't try and say that Russians copied their designs when the US has long copied or imitated the superior Mig aircraft or Russia's hevy bombers.
Russia's navy may be aging and lagging, but it's nuclear missiles, missile defence and SAM's and fighter jets are still top notch in the world.
Sad thing is, the cancelled F-22 was loads better than the F-35 JSF they are building and sharing with the other countries such as Turkey. Is that a wise decision?
Canadarm123 2 years ago
Even if one assumes that Russians stole the YF23 blueprints to build F50, it only means that American counter-intelligence is crap and Russian intelligence works really damn well ))
weegierus 2 years ago 4
Gosh, Americans claiming that Russian engineers cannot produce anything without stealing blueprints just don't know (or forget) that a huge Boeing center operates in Moscow so that, say, dreamliner's development continues 24/7: when guys in Seattle go to bed, their colleagues in Moscow take over, and so on.
weegierus 2 years ago
I assume it's based on stolen YF-23 blueprints, just as the Buran was based on stolen space shuttle blueprints. So there, you commie pig niggit.
ChrisKOLeary 2 years ago
It's kinda like russia's (east's) version of F-22 Raptor
sandreb 2 years ago
Kinda resembles the canceled Northrop YF-23. However, I'm sure it's a hell of an aircraft & much more reliable. Russian built aircraft are known for their durability esp the ability to operate from unimproved runways. Their engines are supreme. I would not want to face one in a dogfight. Here's to you Sukhoi, I love your aircraft!
netherlandsnole 2 years ago 2
nice craft i know russia can do it
freemanist1 2 years ago
can someone say rip off of a raptor
BooBooStainz 2 years ago 2
Sorry, it doesn't look anything like the canceled CRAPtor, btw don't u have some Chinese dicks to suck for moar loans so u can even build f-35, or is that crap getting canceled as well??
TsarSamuil 2 years ago
does it have supercruise and vectorthrust??? wanst to see the capabilities of this craft sure well be seeing more of it...........
alvaradokids 2 years ago
F-22 CRAPtor was canceled, hahaha.
TsarSamuil 2 years ago
F22 was canceled due to stupid US politicians (most likely liberals).
But it was state-of-the-art and you can bet if America goes to war with nation states, it'll start cranking out F22s by the dozens.
If the Russian-India T-50 can equal the F-22 with its technology (avionics, stealth, supercruise, etc) and could equal a Raptor in a dogfighter, then I'll be truly impressed.
I don't think America has anything to worry about just yet-airframe is one thing but its advanced technology that wins.
l1011l 2 years ago
F22 was cancelled? you're an idiot. F-22 is a main fighter jets for u.s. elite airforce. And F-35B will be replace for F/A-18 Hornet for fighter bomber.
All i can see at this video another copy cat on YF-23.
M4A108 2 years ago
@M4A108 , was the technology of VA-111 Shkval supercavitating torpedoes was a copy?, the design begun in 1960 in USSR but still the US navy still has no answer for this.How about SS-N-22 Sunburn, designed in the 70's, still US navy has no answer for this. Read also the story of Mig-15 Klimov RD-45 engine, a reverse-engineered of Rolls-Royce Nene and read how the soviets got this technology. Think again industrial espionage is very common this days.
khoto74 2 years ago
M4a-you're a fucking moron, look it up. It became too expensive to procure, so they canceled the program. The ones that were built are still in use.
And by the way the F-35 also has become very expensive, but there might be enough interest to keep it going. The UK has canceled or downsized their orders already.
Actually the overall airframe of the T-50 more closely resembles the F-22, just vertical stabilizers spacing matches the YF23.
l1011l 2 years ago
Actually, american F22 just an expensive piece of crap which not able to fly like normal jet. American patriots, please, keep ur ideas where they were born - in ur asses.
curbashi 2 years ago 7
You really have no idea what you are talking about do you?
No worries about this Raptor copy though. I'm sure Russia can only afford 3 of them...
MikeyLikesIt357 2 years ago
Actually they will build at least 150 of them, not canceling, unlike u do in your shitty usa economy. Always enough gas n oil profits to pull this project through, so cry all u want, u fat american pig.
Also, it looks nothing like f-22, but more like su-37, so now we know u are fat, stupid n have bad eyesight too. Ofc u want to write it off as a "copy" u are SCARED of what it can do. What can it do? Well, top secret, but I guess u know enough to form an opinion mr expert?
TsarSamuil 2 years ago