@soundquality It's actually two Zappa tunes which, like in this arrangement, segue together as one piece -- "Echidna's Arf (of You)" and "Don't You Ever Wash That Thing?", both on the album "Roxy and Elsewhere". Zappa was the man!
not too many lines today could ever attempt playing or playing clean the kalediscope of notes that Float penned... flam drags and cheese inverts even on bass drums.... and all 100% clean and accurate.
@JessOnTheRun YOU ARE A BLUE DEVILS POSER , YOU WERE NEVER IN THE BLUE DEVILS DRUMLINE EVER.. YOU POST ON OTHER VID'S THAT YOU WERE IN 1989 !! AND THEN YOU EVEN CLAIM YOU WERE IN 1990 CADETS !! YOU CONSTANT BASHING OF DCI LINES IS LAME ! STOP TRYING TO HYPE FLOAT , HE DOES NOT EVEN KNOW YOU ..BOTTOM LINE END OF THE DAY YOU ARE A BLUE DEVIL WANNA BE !
Music, and drum corps, evolves over time. DCI has changed a lot over the last 25 years, but always it has pushed the limits of what is possible in marching music. Wow, would it have ever been awesome to have done corps in that day and time. This is really good stuff. Thanks for posting.
What I love most about this video is how you can tell the generational differences. Look at how long the hair is on some of the horn players! Back in the day drum corps was so much more relaxed. Today it's more militaristic. You'd never see that hair falling below the lids. And maybe its just the times, but man oh man...people looked so much OLDER for being under 21 compared to today.
@PhantomDrums917 Quite possibly it is the times, I remember looking at some old year books from when I was in High School 84-88 and Seniors look much older back then, as compared to today's.
One memory from 87' that stands out from watching these guys was their quick-paced warm ups in the lot. The tempos were all fast ! ...no get loose 120ish... They started at 132+ and progressed quickly....2 or 3 times thru then up 5 clicks !! The time between exercises was quick also.
that's because they had high tension lugs and did not have kevlar heads......so
they could hide their mistakes easier.
lines were NOT better back then, just their mistakes could not be HEARD NEARLY as well, which in turn, with the harder things we play these days, really makes them worse.
They look sloppy.
Don't be an ol school puss on claim better skills back then, in marching, it just didn't happen, maybe on set, but not here buddy
you cant say they hid there mistakes, i think you could actually hear them more without the kevlar heads. i do think the talent level is way higher now than it was then, for sure to do the marching manuvers and still play clean. sometimes i think the books were more difficult then only because the marching was not crazy like today. it seems like in the top 12 every body is a bad ass, not as true back then in the 80s when i marched.
Sorry, but they aren't. These guys played clean while marching 8 to 5 the entire show. I bet they couldn't have done the same while RUNNING and playing +200 bpm, like modern lines do now.
Same here. Love the sound and the cleanliness...but to say they're better than current lines is naive at best.
Have to admit though...any corps hornline back then makes all hornlines today sound like *modern* Cavies in comparison. The only three that ever come close are Phantom, Cadets, and Crown.
I hate the fact that DCI dropped g-bugles but it was for the best...
@svolypet, Its funny, when we were playing during this time, for some reason we thought we were that much better than the generation previous. But 23 years later I realized the talent and skill were the same. The platform to express it was different. If you want speed look at the Cadets of 87 that year. That is just as fast anything out there today. But don't get me wrong the guys of today make my generation listen and say man I wish I could be out there. In other words you sound good.
I love the sound of free floaters for Individual solos. And, some corp shows have sounded cool with them ( Ex. SCV 1991). But, I do wish some drumlines would bring back regular heads. I think the drum lines sounded more full with regular heads.
The first drumline I ever discovered & loved was BD '84. What a mean sounding line they had in the 80's. I still believe they had the best sounding snare drums ever. What ever happen to Ludwigs anyways? Ironically, after commenting on this corps-I marched my years with SCV but loved both corps & drumlines. I think I have more BD shirts & audio stuff than SCV? lol! But i wouldn't have marched any other line. Well I almost did in '89 with BD but good thing I didn't if you know what i mean. ;)
This is one of the best drumlines to ever march on a field! No question they were by far the best drumline there and everyone knows it too! I saw so many guys from other corps shit their pants when this line threw down it was fun! I got to tour with these guys and watched every show.
garfield didn't even play for a good part of the show! what kind of shit is that? then when they did play all they played was real easy shit like buzz rolls and singles!
Steve Gosselin (85-86 age-out), Steve Campbell (84-86 age-out), Dave Dillulo (86 age-out) - Replaced by: Joe Malone(86-87), Dave Walters (87-89), Tony Aleguas (87). The only 85 snare in the 87 line...Jay Dold. The remaining snares in the 87 line ALL were 86 snares. Shawn Glyde was the last of the 84 BD alumns in the 87 snare line. [Buecker (84-88) was a Thunder god]
Enchinadas Arf(of you)...only Tom & Kathy Float would take a rather ungrooving Frank Zappa Chart and turn it into a drumming masterpiece - the seque and intro into Free really sucked...why rehash this old 70's chart that still sounds as dull and boring as it did in the 70's?. Yeah, they had shitloads of vets in that drumline and corps...why they wasted it on such a mediocre and poorly designed show (?)...what a waste of talent. 88 more they made up for it.
Never saw these guys in person, but at least on video they look and sound (to me) as good as any of the '83-'86 BD lines that won drums. Too bad the streak ended in '86 - it definitely should have lasted a few more years! :-)
part 2 - The snares originally were trying to pull of one of those "turn-around in place" moves (like 86) during the accelerando and kept "ticking on it" - lo and behold in a matter of days, it became a stand-still accelerando - still a strong line, though!
part 1 - Thanks a ton for posting these! I'm lovin' it! In my single college life years (money and time on my hands)in 87 I followed the tour that BD was on from Birmingham, then to Atlanta, and then Seveirville, TN (I think - memory goes at my age ya know)and watched them rehearse this solo a number of times.
Tight!
bikinggreg 3 months ago
today's drumlines are dirt compared to this.
djpcinema 5 months ago
@djpcinema I'd say the ratio of clean and dirty drumlines (as far as DCI) is the same today as back then
Bigshotsoutofnowhere 3 months ago
Shame it's such a crappy recording...
thekwaze 6 months ago
And I was THERE to see this live! So awesome!!
PhantomDrums917 6 months ago
I miss long DRUM features like this
derek1134 7 months ago
I have been trying to fine the original Zappa tune that this was arranged from. Finally found it and man Frank was crazy!!! I love it though.
soundquality 8 months ago
@soundquality It's actually two Zappa tunes which, like in this arrangement, segue together as one piece -- "Echidna's Arf (of You)" and "Don't You Ever Wash That Thing?", both on the album "Roxy and Elsewhere". Zappa was the man!
jferraro 8 months ago 2
THEY MARKTIME :D
MrPurpleBean 1 year ago
not too many lines today could ever attempt playing or playing clean the kalediscope of notes that Float penned... flam drags and cheese inverts even on bass drums.... and all 100% clean and accurate.
JessOnTheRun 1 year ago
@JessOnTheRun YOU ARE A BLUE DEVILS POSER , YOU WERE NEVER IN THE BLUE DEVILS DRUMLINE EVER.. YOU POST ON OTHER VID'S THAT YOU WERE IN 1989 !! AND THEN YOU EVEN CLAIM YOU WERE IN 1990 CADETS !! YOU CONSTANT BASHING OF DCI LINES IS LAME ! STOP TRYING TO HYPE FLOAT , HE DOES NOT EVEN KNOW YOU ..BOTTOM LINE END OF THE DAY YOU ARE A BLUE DEVIL WANNA BE !
elchano 1 year ago 4
Music, and drum corps, evolves over time. DCI has changed a lot over the last 25 years, but always it has pushed the limits of what is possible in marching music. Wow, would it have ever been awesome to have done corps in that day and time. This is really good stuff. Thanks for posting.
mpmcd81 1 year ago
What I love most about this video is how you can tell the generational differences. Look at how long the hair is on some of the horn players! Back in the day drum corps was so much more relaxed. Today it's more militaristic. You'd never see that hair falling below the lids. And maybe its just the times, but man oh man...people looked so much OLDER for being under 21 compared to today.
PhantomDrums917 1 year ago
@PhantomDrums917 Quite possibly it is the times, I remember looking at some old year books from when I was in High School 84-88 and Seniors look much older back then, as compared to today's.
sphinxman90 1 year ago
:13 - :23!!!!!! That's why BD does not march cymbals any more!! hahahahah Got to love it though.
JDeazy 1 year ago
One memory from 87' that stands out from watching these guys was their quick-paced warm ups in the lot. The tempos were all fast ! ...no get loose 120ish... They started at 132+ and progressed quickly....2 or 3 times thru then up 5 clicks !! The time between exercises was quick also.
flamz50 1 year ago
Baddest drumline that ever milled about! Fuck the rest BD 87 is THE BEST!!!!!
flammaster 1 year ago
wat snares were they using?
12345timm 2 years ago
Lines back then were better than they are now.
spacitydrummer4JC 2 years ago
sure sounds like it! OH WAIT!!
that's because they had high tension lugs and did not have kevlar heads......so
they could hide their mistakes easier.
lines were NOT better back then, just their mistakes could not be HEARD NEARLY as well, which in turn, with the harder things we play these days, really makes them worse.
They look sloppy.
Don't be an ol school puss on claim better skills back then, in marching, it just didn't happen, maybe on set, but not here buddy
fluxcapga1 2 years ago
you cant say they hid there mistakes, i think you could actually hear them more without the kevlar heads. i do think the talent level is way higher now than it was then, for sure to do the marching manuvers and still play clean. sometimes i think the books were more difficult then only because the marching was not crazy like today. it seems like in the top 12 every body is a bad ass, not as true back then in the 80s when i marched.
modestohomeboy 2 years ago
Sorry, but they aren't. These guys played clean while marching 8 to 5 the entire show. I bet they couldn't have done the same while RUNNING and playing +200 bpm, like modern lines do now.
svolypet 2 years ago
I meant just the sound, not what they look like. I like today's drills, too, but I just personally like the sound of the older corps.
spacitydrummer4JC 2 years ago
Same here. Love the sound and the cleanliness...but to say they're better than current lines is naive at best.
Have to admit though...any corps hornline back then makes all hornlines today sound like *modern* Cavies in comparison. The only three that ever come close are Phantom, Cadets, and Crown.
I hate the fact that DCI dropped g-bugles but it was for the best...
svolypet 2 years ago
@svolypet, Its funny, when we were playing during this time, for some reason we thought we were that much better than the generation previous. But 23 years later I realized the talent and skill were the same. The platform to express it was different. If you want speed look at the Cadets of 87 that year. That is just as fast anything out there today. But don't get me wrong the guys of today make my generation listen and say man I wish I could be out there. In other words you sound good.
fsmsg 1 year ago
@fsmsg True that. Talent is relative to its time.........but damn, these hornlines and drumlines sound mighty fine even in these days.
euphmmx 3 months ago
Damn.....that made me skeet my pants
lsuman93 2 years ago
Scott Johnson with his famous "Uh huh!" yell at the beginning. Does he still do that?
thejooj17 2 years ago
Bloody hell...They're playin' a Zappa tune.
gmsdrmr 2 years ago
Which is why I never liked this drumline.
Inspadave 2 years ago
I love the sound of free floaters for Individual solos. And, some corp shows have sounded cool with them ( Ex. SCV 1991). But, I do wish some drumlines would bring back regular heads. I think the drum lines sounded more full with regular heads.
BSkully1423 2 years ago
nothing like bd snareline with ludwig silver dots!!
Drummalone 2 years ago
Yep you can't say anything about that line except.... Damn. I wore out the recordings of that solo back in the day
cireravilob 3 years ago
The first drumline I ever discovered & loved was BD '84. What a mean sounding line they had in the 80's. I still believe they had the best sounding snare drums ever. What ever happen to Ludwigs anyways? Ironically, after commenting on this corps-I marched my years with SCV but loved both corps & drumlines. I think I have more BD shirts & audio stuff than SCV? lol! But i wouldn't have marched any other line. Well I almost did in '89 with BD but good thing I didn't if you know what i mean. ;)
88SCV89 3 years ago
Ludwig still makes marching drums. The Ludwig USA's i think.
tendura 3 years ago
If this was on the blue devils today....would this win high drums? I think so
welder04 3 years ago 8
you make an old man feel good!!
Drummalone 2 years ago
1:15 to 1:22 is CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!
DCIbeans 3 years ago
That's a Tom Float thing. BD did accels in a bunch of their shows back in the day.
tendura 3 years ago
I bet if they brought that back, it would be a huge success!!!B-)
DCIbeans 3 years ago
damn! thats so legit at 0:37
ybidiotic 3 years ago
my drumline instructor keith mitchell was on that snare line. not sure which one he is but he's in there :]
nbadensley 3 years ago
No one named Keith Mitchell in that snareline
davekrepp 2 years ago
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davekrepp 2 years ago
BD Should have a cymbal line again just....one more time....
Moog167 3 years ago
This is one of the best drumlines to ever march on a field! No question they were by far the best drumline there and everyone knows it too! I saw so many guys from other corps shit their pants when this line threw down it was fun! I got to tour with these guys and watched every show.
garfield didn't even play for a good part of the show! what kind of shit is that? then when they did play all they played was real easy shit like buzz rolls and singles!
flammaster 3 years ago
Agreed. Probably one of the best snarelines ever and hardest to make. There were dudes from 85 and 86 cut from that line.
thejooj17 2 years ago
Steve Gosselin (85-86 age-out), Steve Campbell (84-86 age-out), Dave Dillulo (86 age-out) - Replaced by: Joe Malone(86-87), Dave Walters (87-89), Tony Aleguas (87). The only 85 snare in the 87 line...Jay Dold. The remaining snares in the 87 line ALL were 86 snares. Shawn Glyde was the last of the 84 BD alumns in the 87 snare line. [Buecker (84-88) was a Thunder god]
WFLSilverDot 2 years ago
look at my homeboy davekrepp on the drumset gettin down lol
bdsnareline97 3 years ago
i watched that show live at D.V.C for family day i was in the blue devils C CORP hahahaha it was so nice
bdsnareline97 3 years ago
Enchinadas Arf(of you)...only Tom & Kathy Float would take a rather ungrooving Frank Zappa Chart and turn it into a drumming masterpiece - the seque and intro into Free really sucked...why rehash this old 70's chart that still sounds as dull and boring as it did in the 70's?. Yeah, they had shitloads of vets in that drumline and corps...why they wasted it on such a mediocre and poorly designed show (?)...what a waste of talent. 88 more they made up for it.
JessOnTheRun 3 years ago
@JessOnTheRun 88 was good year. But there were many BD years or and other corp years that were a lot better in my opinion.
fsmsg 1 year ago
God how I miss Drum Corp from the 70's and 80's. My opinion is Drum corp these days is so boring, mansy, pansy Las Vegas show girl for me.
chickadee2 3 years ago
i agree.
ugm0 3 years ago
I marched in this show!! Damn...getting old sucks.
funkubitch 3 years ago
Tell me about it!!
ChrisJH35 3 years ago
Never saw these guys in person, but at least on video they look and sound (to me) as good as any of the '83-'86 BD lines that won drums. Too bad the streak ended in '86 - it definitely should have lasted a few more years! :-)
BradHalls 4 years ago
part 2 - The snares originally were trying to pull of one of those "turn-around in place" moves (like 86) during the accelerando and kept "ticking on it" - lo and behold in a matter of days, it became a stand-still accelerando - still a strong line, though!
scottd42Utube 4 years ago
part 1 - Thanks a ton for posting these! I'm lovin' it! In my single college life years (money and time on my hands)in 87 I followed the tour that BD was on from Birmingham, then to Atlanta, and then Seveirville, TN (I think - memory goes at my age ya know)and watched them rehearse this solo a number of times.
scottd42Utube 4 years ago