fluttering isn't dangerous for the impeller, surge is dangerous and the impeller can be destroyed.
The same thing, but in very different conditions.
Closing the butterfly valve cuts the power to the compressor (coming from the turbine), and creates a pressure wave that exits from the compressor side (rotating at not very high speed).
Surge happens when the compresor arrives to the maximum airflow for a certain speed, it is similar to cavitation.
This is flutter... and flutter is not compressor surge. Compressor surge is when your spring is too tight on a bov. Your BOV is the stock bypass valve it flutters because you aren't building enough boost to hold the valve open for a long enough period of time to make the traditional steady blow-off. If it was compressor surge it would be happening at full boost and you dont get comp surge unless your bov screw is too tight. ++++DONT POST SHIT UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT++++
Buy a synapse bov... I think it's just the noise from the bov fluttering like most diaphragm bovs do. When you think about it, this in turn would actually cause a small amount of surge. It's no where near as bad as "on boost" surge though.
A bov will not hurt your 1.8t! All it will do is throw a code because the car sees a decrease in air flow because the boost isnt being circulated back to the intake its being released into the atmosphere. Its not a big deal but a MIL is annoying.
this is happening to my a4 now, i just got a intake installed and ever since it been making this sound. Ive got a stock Diviter Valve, do i need to upgrade this to get rid of the surge??
hey wuz up i just figured i would let u know that is a turbo surge u cant prevent it just by getting a new bov it may seem quitter but i can listen closely thats a surge carefull u may blow ur rings if the turbo locks ive been working with turbos for the past 4 years ur welcome
ya I fixed the problem but I ran it with surge so long that the turbo blew a couple days ago it was pretty bad haha but I got a brand new turbo and everything is great! but thanks for the insite
it sounds like your diverter valve(blow off valv) isnt opening.check the vacuum line that goes to the valve.its probably unplugged.ig not then the diaphram is leeking not allowing vacuum to pull it open.
there is a vacuum line that got riped off right before it started doing this, it goes from the intake manifold to some tubing after the turbo ill put it back on and see if that works.... thanks for the help!!!
no problem,good thing you caught it though comp surge could of blown out your turbo since the bov isnt opening it could of bentor broken the fins on your turbo which would suck
Flutter for sure and yes get a blow off valve because your pushing pressure the wrong way
fiege88 1 month ago
i dont think its a porblem unless you running more than 10psi of boost
blahblop123 9 months ago
fluttering isn't dangerous for the impeller, surge is dangerous and the impeller can be destroyed.
The same thing, but in very different conditions.
Closing the butterfly valve cuts the power to the compressor (coming from the turbine), and creates a pressure wave that exits from the compressor side (rotating at not very high speed).
Surge happens when the compresor arrives to the maximum airflow for a certain speed, it is similar to cavitation.
dadoVRC 10 months ago
My passat 1.8t does the same sound this happen when o broke my transmission now I have that sound !!!!!
victor130395 10 months ago
This is flutter... and flutter is not compressor surge. Compressor surge is when your spring is too tight on a bov. Your BOV is the stock bypass valve it flutters because you aren't building enough boost to hold the valve open for a long enough period of time to make the traditional steady blow-off. If it was compressor surge it would be happening at full boost and you dont get comp surge unless your bov screw is too tight. ++++DONT POST SHIT UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT++++
bbkingsastud 1 year ago
goddammmmm today this shit start to my car, passat 1.8t is the same sound, sounds goodddd but is a fuck up to my turbo, can it be the dv?
Kingvenom7 1 year ago
Have you checked that the N249 valve that good? Symptoms seem to not work N249
ManelVTi 2 years ago
Buy a synapse bov... I think it's just the noise from the bov fluttering like most diaphragm bovs do. When you think about it, this in turn would actually cause a small amount of surge. It's no where near as bad as "on boost" surge though.
s04r3r 2 years ago
Try tightning up your bov.
one8apc1 2 years ago
its 100% surge
suppratwin 2 years ago
can someone tell me the diffrence between surge and flutter?
454sskilla 2 years ago
@454sskilla nothing, flutter is just another word for compressor surge.
nwfklan 1 year ago
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daythecountrydied21 2 years ago
the original bosch bov is broken! buy a new one!
quizzerapper 2 years ago
no dude its a surge
IntegraCelmar 3 years ago 2
Surge!
IntegraCelmar 3 years ago 3
flutter is compressor surge
fiik420 3 years ago 5
my jetta did the same it has the same engine
and i put a dov and it fixed the problem
and even better that before i got more throtle
responce
juunio0r 3 years ago
But this is definetly surge, its pretty bad too. I dont think i have heard surge like that with barely any boost.
benjamin97128 3 years ago
A bov will not hurt your 1.8t! All it will do is throw a code because the car sees a decrease in air flow because the boost isnt being circulated back to the intake its being released into the atmosphere. Its not a big deal but a MIL is annoying.
benjamin97128 3 years ago
it will cause you to run rich. Over time this can cause problems
Damian856 2 years ago
also dont put a BOV on a 1.8T
it'll mess up ur car BADLY. stick with the diverter valves.
falconcrest32 3 years ago
this is happening to my a4 now, i just got a intake installed and ever since it been making this sound. Ive got a stock Diviter Valve, do i need to upgrade this to get rid of the surge??
Bubbles939 3 years ago
get a new diverter valve. i recommend the forge 007 DV for the 1.8T engines. I got an Audi TT 1.8T w/ that DV and it works great.
(btw, the stock bosch DV in this passat is broken and needs to be replaced)
falconcrest32 3 years ago
its surging
get a bov and will fix the problem
but some bov's might not work so just speak with your mechanic
i put a turbosmart onto a 1995 wrx sti and the bov did not open because of the lack of power and where it was fitted.
ceysuns 3 years ago
Das Steuergerät hat sich aufgehängt, Bei VW neu hochladen lassen... Dann läuft er wieder!!!
DBPG666 3 years ago
I had the same thing happen to mine! Was an easy fix luckly!
ajpasqual 3 years ago
hey wuz up i just figured i would let u know that is a turbo surge u cant prevent it just by getting a new bov it may seem quitter but i can listen closely thats a surge carefull u may blow ur rings if the turbo locks ive been working with turbos for the past 4 years ur welcome
XdogXdx91 4 years ago
ya I fixed the problem but I ran it with surge so long that the turbo blew a couple days ago it was pretty bad haha but I got a brand new turbo and everything is great! but thanks for the insite
zastava1 4 years ago
@zastava1 how much did that run you? for the new turbo+install
spriteremix02 1 year ago
@XdogXdx91 I have the same Problem . Is it the blow - off or Turbo ?? What can i do ?? Thank's...
ultrAslantacim1 7 months ago
get a new bov
v67oldstyle 4 years ago
dont need one it was just the vacuum hose that pulls the bov open it fell off
zastava1 4 years ago
too bad this is bad for the turbo...it sounds so cool.
IntegraVSR 4 years ago 6
that shti happened with my 07 jetta its a surge
hopeurwaiting 4 years ago
no prob
azrocks23 4 years ago
it sounds like your diverter valve(blow off valv) isnt opening.check the vacuum line that goes to the valve.its probably unplugged.ig not then the diaphram is leeking not allowing vacuum to pull it open.
azrocks23 4 years ago
there is a vacuum line that got riped off right before it started doing this, it goes from the intake manifold to some tubing after the turbo ill put it back on and see if that works.... thanks for the help!!!
zastava1 4 years ago
brother try a dose pipe?
CRAZYLEBOWITHAK47 4 years ago
thanksss alot bro thats what it was stupid vacuum line lol again man thanks :)
zastava1 4 years ago
no problem,good thing you caught it though comp surge could of blown out your turbo since the bov isnt opening it could of bentor broken the fins on your turbo which would suck
azrocks23 4 years ago